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the aca. >> jenna: really interesting, i apologize to shortchange you but we look forward to having about back maybe next week to take some questions on this. we really appreciate it. thank you. thank you to our viewers as well for joining us on this busy day. it our best, mr begin years "america news hq" starts now. >> dana: we are just over an hour away from the big health care vote on the house floor. sean spicing up wrapping up the white house briefing saying we left everything on the field. hello, everyone. lawmakers are debating right now with a big question looming. can a bitterly divided republican party pull off what it's promised voters for the last seven years? president trump making a demand that lawmakers voted on the plan now that's on the table. at this point the outcome is anybody's guess. white house correspondent kevin cork begins our coverage. kevin, you were there in the briefing room. i thought sean spicer, he answered as many questions as he could with actually knowing very
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little. unable to predict the future. >> reporter: you're right about that. he heard the question probably 35 different times, maybe 40, 40 different ways. but again, the answer is always going to be the same. we're going to stay positive. we're not giving up the fight. we're going to take this down to the wire. you also heard him say, hey, paul ryan has been here conversing with the president. this is going to fall on the members of the house. are they willing or not to step up and hold up their end of the bargain and obviously follow up on their promise to the american people? and that is to get something done on the affordable care act, obamacare. spicer was asked if the food dragging would have an ultimate cost, both for the republicans and for the president? he said that and a few other things. take a listen. >> the president has been working the phones and having in-person meetings since the american healthcare act was introduced. he left everything on the field when it comes to this bill. the president and congressional republicans promised the
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american people that they would repeal and replace this broken system. obamacare is washington driven. one size fits all plan had seven years to prove its case. >> reporter: enough talk, is the bottom line for the white house. congressional republicans get the job done or forget about it. we can move on to tax reform and other things. that seems to be the message from here at the white house. i also had a chance, dana, to ask sean spicer about the keystone xl pipeline. you and i have talked about this on numerous occasions and covering the obama administration. seemed like the state department was studying it and the white house sort of punted their way. it took years. they just figured out that they weren't gonna let this thing pass. finally president trump comes in, less than 65 days in office, they are moving forward with the pipeline. message from sean spicer is it's all about jobs. that is not a big surprise coming from the white house. all eyes remain on the battedle for healthcare reform. we'll see what happens here in the hours ahead. >> dana: thank you, kevin.
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now mike emanuel live on capitol hill. how's it looking now, mike? >> reporter: hi, dana. good afternoon. the scramble is on trying to get final votes as this is deadline day on capitol hill. we've seen vice president mike pence in and around capitol hill, meeting with various lawmakers, believing to be meeting with the house freedom caucus this afternoon trying to make that final push for support. house speaker paul ryan has been meeting with his leadership team. went to the white house to brief president trump on where things stand. last time we heard from the speaker was last night when he announced today's vote. >> for 7 1/2 years, we have been promising the american people that we will repeal and replace this broken law and figure this collapsing and failing families, and tomorrow we're proceeding. >> reporter: appropriations chairman from new jersey came out with a statement earlier saying he is a no on this bill. a republican from a democratic state where aspects of obamacare are popular. that's been a difficult group to
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get on board. dana? >> dana: so, mike, as you sit there and watch this, i'm curious, even though they have very big policy differences between so many that are part of the freedom caucus and maybe somebody who is a moderate, do they get along behind the scenes? >> reporter: we have seen them interacting well. there was talk at one point that mark meadows, the chair of the house freedom caucus, wanted to sit down with members of the tuesday group, a more moderate group, trying to see if they could work together to hammer out a deal between them. there has been a little bit of frustration also here on capitol hill. some leadership types having expressed frustration with the freedom caucus. mark meadows has been very high profile. the leader of that group. been in a lot of conversations with the president and with house leadership. there's also been motion from democrats who are trying to defend obama care. >> let me just say we have an obligation -- we have an obligation to the people of this
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country to vote no today. >> reporter: this has been a tremendous push in this new congress since day one after a lot of negotiations and conversations, this is deadlined day. you're seeing some of the emotion there on the house floor. dana? >> dana: all right, mike. we'll continue to check in with you. here with more is martha mccowen host of the first 100 days. arguably nobody knows better the first 100 days than you do. you've been following this since right before it started, inauguration day. you get to this point. you have the first big major legislative effort for the white house. what do you think they're thinking at this moment? >> i think it's just been an absolutely wild ride, dana. i don't think we can under estimate the importance of this day. president trump, donald trump, got himself through the primary process, through the election. basically on his own steam, on the power of his own charisma, the ability to knock some people off the stage, as we all saw happen as it all played out. but this is the first time this
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is being tested with his own partied. he has had a contentious relationship with many of them. i think that it will be very difficult for him to sort of process that deal making happens very differently on capitol hill. the bottom line is not the dollar with this kind of negotiation. these people need to go home and get re-elected. that's the number one thing they care about. i think he deserves a lot of credit for putting himself on the line, putting himself into this process, as we heard from sean spicer. he's met with 120 people or talked to them on the phone. lot of times we've seen presidents, and president obama comes to mind, ho didn't want to get their hands dirty. i think president obama gets credit for going to the mat on this. >> dana: my personal opinion, i like it that instead of being risk averse, he said i want the vote. >> right. >> dana: to me that is good. let the chips fall where they may. if we get it, fine. if we don't, we'll deal with it
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then. it was bold to ask for the vote. >> i completely agree with you. when we heard paul ryan was going over to the white house, there was this thinking that perhaps they're going to table this. perhaps they're going to push it a couple more days. or perhaps they don't want the embarrassment of it going down. he wants these members to be on the record as having voted against this. and he said last night, we will be watching very closely. he wants to see every one of those people that he met withstand up and vote either for him or against him. we know he has a long memory. >> dana: one of our colleagues tweeted today that the blame is on the freedom cautious and senators lee, cruz and paul, who want more, want to lead congress mall republicans to a political dead end. that is one way to look at it. on the other hand you have people trying to frame it as a big loss for paul ryan. it would not look good if it doesn't win. but that the blame game has started before anyone has dealt with the fact that people are actually worried about their health care.
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>> absolutely. >> dana: talk about how you're going to pay for catastrophic expenses if you end up needing medical care. >> you're so right. and today is the political win or loss, but down the road is when people open their statements, when they go to the doctor, when they say i'm sorry, we're not covering medicade in this office. so the reality of this would be felt individually on the voter basis and on a personal level down the road. and these members will be held accountable, if people don't see their prices going down. now, the president very well may be going back to plan a which was, you know what? let it collapse. if he can't get this through, my guess is that that is the plan b that he will fall back on and say, do you know what? let the chips fall where they may. then we'll have to pick up the scraps down the road. >> dana: in "the new york times" today there's -- senior person quoted in "the new york times" saying they wish they had done tax reform first. sean spicer, the press secretary, who you'll have on tonight on your show, denied that.
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said you need the savings and the tax savings from the health bill in order to do health reform. as i understand it, tax reform was on a parallel track. do you think that's where they pi monday? >> we did a town hall in north carolina which has not aired yet because we had the horrific events that played out in london this week. but i asked people which would you like to have seen done first? health care was not high on the list, to be honest. tax reform is when all the hands went up. i do think there will be some blame game if this goes down today, that they did push health care first and the president probably will say it wasn't my favorite thing either. i really want to get to tax reform. whether or not paul ryan will be able to maintain that relationship and say, look, we lost this one, let's get tax reform, that's something people in washington insiders are watching closely. >> dana: there's a lot of dynamic going on in the white house over who has the ear of the president and who convinces him, as paul ryan did, that he could get this through. >> dana: the market is paying
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close attention. >> absolutely. >> dana: what's coming up tonight? i know you have on sean spicer. this vote may be going this evening. >> we have a great political panel. chris staggerwald will be with us. to see how this plays out. i also couldn't help but think today. i know all of the tea leaves seem to point to this thing going down. this is kind of how it felt on election day. everyone was asking, including myself to, the president that day, at the time, the candidate, do you think that you can win tonight? what will you do if you lose? will you concede? >> dana: sean spicer said why is everyone so negative? let's see what happens. you never know. remember you started doing those exit polls. oh, i think he's going to win. >> what a night. >> dana: thank you very much for joining us. we'll be watching "100 days" tonight. high drama on capitol hill. a vote to replace obamacare looming, as the president says it's now or ever. plus former campaign manager
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>> dana: a fox news alert. more trump associates have volunteered to be interviewed about the trump administration surveillance before telling the intelligence committee. earlier house committee chair nunes said paul manafort who served as president trump's campaign manager, will testify. now roger stone said he'll testify. let's bring in our chief
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intelligence correspondent. this teams like a big development. >> reporter: there were a lot of developments at these back to back news conference. we also have a line out to carter page to see if he has also offered to testify before the committee. so that would be three former trump campaign associates. we heard a lot at the news conference this morning, but let me tell you what really kind of is going on if you read between the lines. we've got new intelligence reports only the republican chairman has seen them. he's made a decision 'cause he's the person in charge, to recall the fbi director and the nsa director to hear from them at a classified setting in light of these documents. and in the process, he's pushed off this public hearing with some former obama administration officials because he feels he needs to know more before he kind of interview with the former white house officials could be that meaningful. it puts the democrats on their
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hind feet here because this was not the plan. they want to have these events publicly. last month the fbi director and nsa director went extremely well for the democrats and they think that's one of the reasons the republicans now want to have a closed door hearing on this. >> dana: you had people who were associated with the campaign saying, we'll come in and answer your questions. has there been any mention or whispering that michael flynn, the former nsa director who worked at the white house for a hot minute, is he willing to do the same? >> reporter: excellent question. what we heard over the last few weeks is they do want to get mike flynn up to capitol hill to testify in some fashion, whether it's going to be a public hearing or closed hearing. but there's no date on the calendar yet for that. it's also not clear whether he would come willingly or they would have to issue a subpoena. he has some what i would call
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significant personal legal issues that are now tangled up in this whole russia mess. >> dana: while i have you, i wanted to ask you ab the terrorist who was to blame for the horrible attacks in london. he was 52 years old. and from your perspective and all that you know about terrorism, sounds like that skewed on the older side. does this tell us anything about the growing threat of isis or was it just a one off? >> reporter: well, you're good to pick up on that. that age 52 is an outliar. typically what we see with individuals who are recruited by isis or inspired by isis or al qaeda is that they're in this kind of sweet spot of 18-25, in part because so much of the radicalization is driven by the web. this is really the digital generation that connects the way an older generation like someone over 50 does not because they did not grow up with this technology. in every case, there's often the
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exception or the outliar. he does look like that to be sure. >> dana: all right. your expertise is always appreciated. thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> dana: we are about one hour away from the big vote on capitol hill. it is do or die. this is what sean spicer said the president would wash his hands if it dies. >> will the president simply wash his hands of this today? >> president is gonna wash his hands several times.
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the american commitment organization. phil, do you have any inside information? do you think this is gonna pass or fail? >> well, it looks like they're short right now, so it doesn't look like it's going to pass. of course, we could be surprised. this is a president who has a track record of pulling out unexpected victories. i don't think we can completely discount the possibility. all of the public statements suggest it's pretty well shored at this point. >> dana: i want you to listen to nick mulvaney who knows a lot about the house freedom caucus. take a listen to this then i'll get your reaction. >> reports from "the new york times" is that the president should have done tax reform first. >> i have been with the president the last couple days. i can assure you that conversation has never come up. we promised to do this first. today is the chance. >> and if you fail here, isn't it going to be that much harder to get tax reform done because you won't that v that almost $900 billion in revenue that you're getting from this bill?
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>> george, i have heard that. tax reform will have to lower the deficit on its own. tax reform will stand on its own two feet. >> dana: phil, what do you make of the suggestion that they're looking back saying we should have done tax reform first? from the way i understand it, you needed health reform first. what do you think? >> yeah. big advantage of doing this sequence is that the tax cuts in the healthcare bill are paid for with spending cut. in the tax reform bill, the tax will be paid for by closing loopholes and raising new taxes like the border tax. if you waited -- sorry. if you didn't do healthcare first you would either need to leave all of the obama care tax aside and leave them in place or you would have to come up with more ways to eliminate them. sort of the framework of the tax reform bill makes it so that you really don't have the spending
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cuts to pay for it. makes sense to do the obamacare tax cuts first. pay for them with spending care. then do tax reform next. that was the thinking behind setting it up the way they have. if they need to change that for whatever reason, you could do tax reform first but you would end up leaving the obamacare taxes off the table if you did that. >> dana: early on the show martha was on, she hosts "the first 100 days." she said remember, as you just said as well, the president has surprised before. could be that they end up getting this bill passed. if it doesn't, i'm curious about this. the freedom caucus came out. on the merits, they disagree with it. i don't think they are opponents for opponents sake. but what about the idea of saying, fine, if you've got a bill, you try to run it through and then we'll see where we end up? at that point try to negotiate within the republican party? >> well, you know, i think they were trying to get -- i think mark meadows the chairman of the freedom caucus is trying to get
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a vote on his amendment. they didn't allow that. it would have been one strategy that could have had the rules committee rule that, let him have that on the floor. if the amendment doesn't pass, he would be able to say, i tried to get it. maybe he and other freedom caucus members might be willing to vote for the bill. that's something they could have done. they could still go back and do that defending on if they try to chain strategies here. >> dana: how disastrous is it for the economy or people trying to deal with obamacare if the president's warning was, vote on this. if it doesn't pass, maybe i'll just walk away and we'll not do anything. what do you think of that? >> well, the do nothing option is the worst option. obamacare is in collapse. we've got premiums that have doubled on average in the four years obamacare has been in effect. 25% just this year. we've got over 1,000 counties in america that are down to one health insurance company, less than obamacare. with humana pulling out that number is just going to increase.
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lot of people who have employer coverage don't necessarily know how bad it is in the individual market although they're dealing with their own obama care. the individual market is obama care. there aren't many choices. prices are very very high. there's some things they can do by regulatory action and secretary price can do even if they don't get this through, including grants states waivers so they can do more innovative things. status quo is not a good option, so i hope they can get their act together and at least move this process forward and figure something out that can pass. >> dana: thank you, phil. everyone should follow you on twitter. he's all got insightful things to say. thank you very much, phil. the house vote on healthcare barely an hour away. we're going to bring all the developments to you as the maneuvering continues. but this isn't the bill originally introduced. we'll take you inside the negotiations and show you how this measure evolved over the week. a new poll shows the health care plan promoted by president trump and the republican leadership is pretty unpopular among american
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voters. how does it stack up with obamacare and popularity? we're going to take a look. >> has he done every sinle thing, has he pulled out every stop, has he tweaked every tweak? has he done every single thing he can possibly and used every minute of every day possible to get this thing through? then the answer is yes.
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the gop bill. bending to president trump's demand to hold an up or down vote today. working to bring the conservative wing into the column. vice president pence canceling a trip to stay in washington in soup port of the health care bill. he met with the house freedom cauc caucus. pretty significant to cancel a trip, right, peter? >> it was. and he came here, dana, to the capitol hill club which is not right on campus. the president hangout for republican lawmakers and their supporters. it is right across the street from the house office buildings. this is the cannon building. that is where every member of congress, including all the republicans that they are trying to woo today, have their offices. so you can see the vice president has gone. his motorcade was raoeu write am standing. there is a big interest from all these reporters hearing from members who are coming out about
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what the vice president's final pitch was. most of the members that have been coming out so far have been tight lipped. so we do not have a good idea if he was able to turn anybody. but he is on his way out. we know the speaker of the house basically pence came here. ryan went down to the white house. they are crisscrossing pennsylvania. most of the information we're getting is from members. what are you hearing from your colleagues? and what about you? how is it going to go an hour from now? it seems like it still could go either way based on what we're hearing. >> dana: this is making it fun to watch. here with more is the senior political analyst at 538.com. harry, thank you very much for joining us. earlier today you tweeted something and you wrote a column about looking back. the previous big health care legislative effort. what did you learn? >> well, essentially what we learned from those is that this health care bill being presented right now is far more unpopular
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than obamacare was at this point. it's also far more unpopular than bill clinton's health care bill. both of those bills became more unpopular over time. the fact this is so unpopular already is not exactly good news for the president. >> dana: but that doesn't mean necessarily that obamacare as it stands today is popular, does it? >> well, no. obamacare isn't that popular, but it is certainly more popular than the american healthcare act is. obamacare has a tpaeufrb rablt rating i believe of about 50% while the president's health care plan has an favorability rating in the low 30s. >> dana: what do you make of the arm twisting? who is most effective, the freedom caucus members or moderates? >> i think it's probably more effective with moderates insofar as the freedom caucus members, they're not very conservative, they're not gonna shift just because they say okay we're gonna offer you this. to me the moderates are probably
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the people they can get most. but there's no guarantee they will be able to bring them into the yes column. >> dana: when you look at the odds of whether this bill will pass in an hour, what do you make of it? >> we're all relying on reporting these whip counts, which can be good or can be bad. it seems to me when you aggregate all of the information together, it seems like there's a higher probable that this will get pulled than pass. >> dana: let me switch gears with you. there's another big story. that was neil gorsuch had his confirmation hearings. the democrats have decided they're gonna try to fight it. what do you make of that? >> they can fight it all twhaeupbt. to me if you look, and we've modelled this from the past. someone like neil gorsuch will probably get somewhere in the mid 50s in terms of yes votes. the real question is whether he gets 60 for closure to end an filibuster. if he doesn't, it could be that
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the republican party says forget it, we're going nuclear option and conform him no matter what. i think that's the end result. it's just a matter of how he gets confirmed, not whether he gets confirmed. >> dana: what about politics for senator mitch mcconnell? he is being dared almost by chuck shumer to deploy the nuclear option and go to a straight majority vote. >> well, i'll tell you, chuck shumer can dare mitch mcconnell all he wants. mitch mcconnell has shown to be a pretty good leader. if schumer wants to dare him, mitch mcconnell will say basically bring it on. >> dana: my last question for you, there are a couple house races coming up in the next month. these are in pretty safe republican districts. democrats in both are doing better than an teus paeuticipaa. yesterday the republican committee will put more money into the district. >> this is tom price seat. donald trump did not perform as well there as previous
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republican presidential tphopl niece. knees. the polling suggests the democratic candidate has a pretty decent shot of winning. republicans are still favored. the fact that it's a race there to me indicates something could be going on, not being particularly good for republicans. >> dana: all right. i do hope they have your favorite soda out there. >> diet cream a&w. i'm hoping. >> dana: we're watching the markets today. the bill, a key test of the trump administration's ability to put in place new policies that are good for american businesses. adam shapiro live at the stock exchange. adam, why have the markets traded down this week? looks more stable now but what do you think? >> it's very simple. there was a lot of uncertainty about the health care bill and the concern for investors and traders was what would this do for the tax reform. dow is down right now about 30 points. s&p is down. but not nearly as bad as it
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could have been because we hear from the administration, yes. we're going forward with tax reform. when i tell you the dow, s&p500 and nasdaq was the worst performances weekly in, what, since december and november. keep in mind these indexes are still up tremendously since donald trump was elected president. so this is just one week. it's not so bad at this point because we are going to be going forward towards tax reform. some of the losers goldman sach, j.p. morgan, nike. don't cry over them. they'll come back. >> dana: i leave it to you at fox business to tell me what's going on with the market. from a political standpoint, does this signal any sort of end or sort of slowdown in the trump rally we've seen since the election. stph >> no. markets, the dow is up almost 5% year to date. we are heading towards tax reform. the president has said that.
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you heard sean spicer say that. so that's what investors are paying attention to. i'll give you more down stocks today. bank of america, charles schwab, capital one, they're all down for the week and today. but the key is that there are metrics in this economy, durable goods orders. things like cars, washing machines, air planes up 1.7% for the second straight month. those are good signs. energy production, fracking at levels we haven't seen since before the election. there's a lot of momentum for this economy to go forward and these stocks to go higher. >> dana: adam, thank you very much. we are keeping a close eye on capitol hill. less than an hour until the house is expected to vote on the republican health care plan. minority whip just spoke on the floor and is gonna join us after the break. stay tuned. a 401(k) is the most sound way to go. let's talk asset allocation. -sure. you seem knowledgeable, professional. i'm actually a deejay. -[ laughing ] no way! -that really is you? if they're not a cfp pro, you just don't know.
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voters. the white house said the house will vote on the bill in just about 50 minutes from now but there are reports the republicans do not have the votes to pass their own measure. still, the white house said the train is leaving the station. we'll have the very latest live from capitol hill and the vote as it happens on shepard smith reporting. see you then. >> dana: as we await the health care vote, we're following another big story. as hearings wrapping up this week, senate democrats are vowing to filibuster the nomination. joining us to discuss senator john kennedy of louisiana. pleasure to meet you, sir, even though it's through the camera. >> thank you, dana. same here. >> dana: let me ask you about your supreme court nomination hearing process and what you're hearing as to whether mitch mcconnell is considering going for the nuclear option in order to get gorsuch confirmed before
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april? >> here's the acts as i see them. gorsuch is a thoroughbred. he's well credentialed. he's independent. he has a clean grasp. no reasonable person could have washed those hearing, no reasonable person who knows a law book from a sears ro buck catalog could have watched those hearings and concluded otherwise. i don't think chuck shumer thinks otherwise. i think chuck shumer doesn't like the fact that neil gorsuch was nominated by donald trump and senator schumer, i mean no disrespect, he wants a liberal. his position seems to be that inless i get a nominee for political reasons, i'm going to filibuster this to death. if he does that, this will be the first time in history that we have had a partisan filibuster in the senate. not an filibuster for good
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reason. there was an filibuster for judge abe fortus but that had to do with ethical issues. this is a purely partisan filibuster because the minority leader does not like the fact that judge gorsuch is a conservative, that he's independent and he was nominated by donald trump. i don't think ultimately the democrats will do that. maybe i'm prom. maybe i'm naive. i'm new. but i'd like to think better of them. but i will tell you that if they do, i don't know what's inside mitch mcconnell's head. he is a great poker player. i have been around him long enough to know this, that he's not going to be intimidated by the minority leader. what senator mcconnell has said to me, without elaborating, is this. neil gorsuch will be confirmed. and do you know what? i believe him. >> dana: if i could just switch gears. while over in the senate you have been talking about the
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supreme court and the house. you've no doubt seen and probably witnessed some of the drama surrounding this vote that they're going to have just 45 minutes from now. from your perspective, do you hear on whether the vote will be successful? >> no. i made a few calls this morning. nobody cares to predict. it will be very close. >> dana: do you have a preference for if it passes or fails? >> well, sure. i'd like to repeal obama care and put something in its place that is an improvement. if the house passes it, it will come over to the senate. we'll get our shot. we'll make it better still. i have said from day one. i'll keep saying it. obamacare has been a failure. i will vote to repeal obamacare. you can take that home to mama.
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andly vote for a bill to replace obama care that i think is an improvement. is this that bill? i think we can make it better. if it happens, if it doesn't pass, it's not tend of civilization. we can move on to tax reform, maybe come back but the ultimate result will be that a small group of republicans joined with the democrats to keep obama care alive. forget the politics. that will be terrible for the american people. that's majority rules. >> dana: i think everybody on the senate side should be glad to have you around. great demeanor and also great sayings. i am gonna take that loam to mama. i'll let her know. >> take it home to mama. good to talk to you. >> dana: let's bring in the house minority whip. sir, i'm so grateful that you were willing to join us this afternoon. i wonder what it was like from
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your perspective. you've been on the other side where you are trying to get votes on something that's down to the wire. now that you can sit back and watch them do that on the republican side of things, what do you think will happen this afternoon? >> i think it's going to lose. . there's not a confidence on the republican side of the aisle that they have the votes. president's weighed in. they've weighed in. it appears, and i don't count the republican votes so i have no idea, but the appearance is that they're not very confident that they have the votes. those in the media are reporting their counts are that there are significantly short of passing a bill. it's unfortunate that we have a bill on the floor that does not do what president obama said he wanted to do. he looked at the american people in the eye through the lens of your camera and other cameras and said, i'm going to support a bill that will give every american healthcare insurance,
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that will bring the prices down and will increase and improve the quality. president trump has offered no such bill. this is not that. it knocks 20 million people off health insurance. it increases cost very substantially. puts an age tax on individuals between the age of 50 and 64 which will increase their premiums three or four fold. so this is a bill which ought to fail. then frankly what we ought to do, we ought to sit down at the table together and say how do we make the affordable care act work well? because as donald trump said, apparently republicans and democrats need to have health care insurance that they can rely on and that will stablize our system of delivery of health care. if that's the case then we ought to work together to get there. this bill is not that bill.
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donald trump ought to know that it's not the bill he promised to support. >> dana: what would that look like in that scenario? what would you want to come to the table on? individual market by most counts is struggling. popularity of obama care is slightly better than it was. there's no tkoub there's some changes. democrats admit that. what would you be willing to come to the table on if it came to that scenario? >> i'm not going to negotiate frankly with you on television. what i'm going to say though, clearly we need to make sure that it's affordable for all americans. there are obviously places where there have been very substantial increases in premiums. there have been a lack of choices in areas. but the affordablecare act is working. it's not working for small businesses in some instances because their premiums are too high and in the individual market. people are struggling to get
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insurance. so we need to make sure that those parts of the affordable care act which are not working, we would address those and make them better and make them work better. this bill doesn't even come close to that. as a matter of fact, it goes very hard in the opposite direction. that's why when you talk about what has happened over the last few months, the affordable care act is supported by americans than oppose it by a substantial number. it was under water for a long time. but when they started looking at what the affordable care act was doing for them and their families, they said maybe i was wrong. maybe the affordable care act is better than it was. it's got the support of just about 50% of america, as opposed to about 40% of america who don't support it. in addition to that, the most recent poll quinnipiac yesterday
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said that 56% of americans polled think we ought to defeat this republican bill as opposed to 17% who think we ought to pass it. that's a 3:1 margin. so the conclusion that i have reached that this is a bad bill, that we ought to go back to the drawing board. we need to have bipartisan discussions to make the affordable care act work properly. do what trump said he wants to do. if president trump offers a bill that gives every american health insurance that they can afford with better quality, i'm gonna vote for it. he has offered no such bill. all he's offered is rhetoric. >> dana: that poll said 56% of people did not like this particular bill, the american healthcare act, but for different reasons. some people want it to go for left, some people more right. do you have a political preference for this bill today to pass or to fail? if it fails then some republicans are saying this is still the democrats fault.
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if you're unhappy with obamacare, it's not our fault, it's the democrats. do you have a preference? >> let me tell you something. you're wrong. if this bill fails, it will be a republican failure. nobody voted for the affordable care act on the republican side. we voted for it. we believed it was good for the american people. we got no help from republicans. so that if they fail today, they are in control of the house. they can pass this bill. they are a deeply divided party. many think this bill that has been offered perhaps for different reasons than do i is a bad bill. congressman, republican from michigan, said this was the worst bill, meaning the trump/ryan bill, is the worst bill he's seen since he's been a member of the congress. >> dana: it wasn't my perspective that democrats would be insulted, it's the narrative that's out there. chairman nunes of the house intel committee cancelled a
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hearing on monday that was going to include some former obama administration officials and adam schiff, the ranking chair, expressed some displeasure on that. can you offer a last comment on that before i let you go? >> just a short brief comment. i regret that chairman nunes has acted in a fashion which in my opinion undermines his ability to run nonpartisan fair committee hearings. i don't know why hi's done that, but he has done it. i frankly think we need a commission that is like a 9/11 commission with equal democrats and republicans, high level people, not in the congress, who have the time to look at the very very serious allegations that have been made. i don't know whether they're true or not, but serious allegations that have been made, that there was collusion between the trump campaign and/or people working at high levels in the trump campaign and the russians, our adversaries and some would
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call our enemies to undermine our democratic election. that was a very sat thing to have happened. if it did happen, americans need to know it. russia needs to pay consequences. >> would such a commission look into leaks of the names that came out of it? >> it would look at the whole gaumt of issues. the leaks everybody is raising so much in my opinion distract from the extraordinary allegation that the trump campaign and/or people working in the trump campaign clueded with the russians to under mine our democratic election. i think that's the focus. we ought to see if they're leaks. fact is, the leaks came three weeks after the trump administration knew that michael flynn had lied to the vice president and allowed the vice president to misinform the
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american people about whether flinn had discussions with the russian ambassador. so it's a distraction. >> dana: thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your perspective. >> you bet. >> dana: the health care plan that's up for a vote is not the same bill that was originally introduced. trace gallagher is live with more on that. trace? >> reporter: hey, dana. to get more conservatives and phod rates on board with the bill, there were significant concessions. lot of people don't quite understand how these changes could directly affect them. so let me break down the big ones. first the revised bill in the house will freeze and unwind medicade expansion. medicade was originally meant for pregnant women, the disabled, children and elderly. conservatives are irate that since obamacare started some 11 million people with no children signed up. the previous bill would have allowed those bill to keep signing up until 2020 and then would have per tphapbtly grandfathered them in. modified bill halts medicade's
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expansion, but it does allow a more generous reimbursement for elderly and disabled medicade patients. it also gives the states the option to offer medicade only to able-bodied people willing to work. the original plan i also want to mention had refundable tax credits. those have been punted to the senate to decide how big they should be. dana? >> dana: all right. thank you very much. and we will be right back. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
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>> fox news alert. james comey spotted at the white house today. no word yet on what he's doing there. this comes amid volments on the investigations of russian interference into the presidential election. devin nunes calling on the fbi and the nsa to brief the committee in a closed session. we'll continue to watch that and bring you the latest. we're keeping a close eye as the
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house gets ready to vote on the gop healthcare plan in about 30 minutes. not clear what will happen. we'll be here. i'm dana parino. here's shep. >> shepard: it's noon hahn the west coast, 3:00 on the capitol hill. a vote on the republican healthcare bill is set to happen in a half hour according to the white house. with paul ryan just paying a visit to trump apparently to tell him they don't have the votes. the president says it's now or never. the president is taking aim at opponents with a warning on twitter. but what a holdout is telling the white house to back off. the head of the house intelligence committee cancelled a hearing on russia. the pop democrat says the chairman may be too close to the white house to run a fair investigation. now the president's former
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