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losing a battle, you find a new way to win the war." o'reilly is up next, have a good weekend, we'll see you back here on monday. ♪ >> eric: hi, i'm eric bolling and for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching this "o'reilly factor" is special, drama on the potomac. what a dramatic date it has been as republicans surprised everyone by pulling the vote on their health care plan. house speaker paul ryan gave a blunt assessment about today's setback and the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. >> we came really close today, but we came up short. i spoke to the president just a little while ago. i told them that the best thing i think to do is to pull this bill, and he agreed with this decision.
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this is a setback, no two ways about it, but it is not the end of the story because i know that every man and woman in this conference is now motivated more than ever to step up our game, deliver on our promises. >> eric: meanwhile, president trump remained optimistic. >> i work as a team player and would have loved to have seen its past, but i think you know, very clear, wasn't a speech i made where this deal wasn't mentioned that perhaps the best thing that could happen was exactly what happened today because we will end up with a truly great health care healthn the future after this mess known as obamacare explodes. so i want to thank everybody for being here. it will go very smoothly, i really believe. i think this is something, certainly interesting. we all learned a lot. >> eric: president trump was also pressed on the impact of the house freedom caucus on the health care bill's failure. >> do you feel betrayed by the house freedom caucus at all?
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they seem to be the most difficult -- >> no, they're friends of mine, i'm disappointed. we could've had it. i'm a little surprised commit to be honest with you. we really had it. it was pretty much they are commit within grasp. >> eric: joining us know with reaction, kentucky senator rand paul who is a close ally of the house freedom caucus. senator, do you think the president was indirectly referring to you specifically in this remarks? >> no, but but i will say, i still have a great deal of optimism that we will come to a repeal of obamacare. nothing has united republicans more than our desire to repeal obamacare. i think it led to our electoral success taking over the house in 2010, the senate in 2014, white house in 2016. we are not so much united on the replacement part, but i still think it can be worked out. i am hoping that both sides will say, we will continue to talk.
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i think that president trump has been very open too many of already is. i just think we didn't have enough time and we set an artificial deadline and instead of saying were going to work until we get this, i don't see my weekend work the week after and the work after, but i'm going to continue on that and r. there's some great ideas for replacing it. >> eric: we watched over the last three weeks, we watch the house freedom caucus saying, we are not on board yet. explain to us by we should be? they never got the answers they were looking for. in the aftermath of the failed or pulled both, people will say, it's the house freedom caucus that held out, the reason why we now have obamacare going forward. what do you say to those people. >> i think the freedom caucus wants what all republicans pond, a repeal of obamacare that ultimately lowers the price of insurance for people. if you look at the number one problem of obamacare, it's that people in the individual markets go out to buy insurance and the premiums are soaring through the
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roof. that's the real problem. that's why what i promoted as the number one replacement is letting people joint buying groups paid one of the number one unreported stories is that the house of representatives actually passed my replacement version or a similar version fog people join buying groups or co-opts to bring prices down for it but i met voicing senator mcconnell and leadership is, that bill should be part of next week. this is a bill that is a big part of replacement. worshiping that up next week and see how the democrats will respond to that. >> eric: i want to show our audience a little piece of tape from earlier in the week where you actually went to the house freedom caucus side, and i guess you were teaching them the art of the deal. take a look. >> i brought you all a gift tonight. "the art of the deal." i do think that it is important as we go into this that we realize we have enormous power. actually, you guys have enormous power if you stick together. i put up a quote from "the art of the deal" that i thought was appropriate. the worst thing that you can
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possibly do in a deal is to seem desperate. that makes the other guy smell blood, and then you are dead. >> eric: so the lesson to be learned here, don't accept the first deal, but bring another one? >> these were donald trump's words. "don't be desperate to make a deal." what i would add to that is, we are open to making a deal, and we still are open. conservatives across the country wants to repeal obamacare. unfortunately, as the house leadership brought this forward, they brought repeal and replace with obamacare light. nobody ran on that, and no conservative across the land wants it. we can start over with repeal as a basis and actually some of the ideas, look, i love the fact that speaker brian brightly plans last week. >> eric: i watched you guys out there saying, let's repeal now, there is bicameral support for repealing obamacare. but what do you do with the
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people, the 9 million or 10 million people that are on obamacare? >> here's the history of what has happened in the past. dozens of times, the house of representatives under republican leadership has already voted for a clean repeal. they've done it dozens of times. in the senate come up with dunnage at least once. what do we do with the people the government is currently providing health insurance for? what i want is for everyone of them to be protected by group insurance. i would open it up to every individual to be able to buy a group policy which helps them have leverage. here is an example. aarp has over 30 million people. what if they had one person negotiate prices? they could put prices down. actually, the house voted this last week. >> eric: i agree, i think there are some very, very smart things in the replacement, which we were talking about commit the replacement. the interim, this whole legislative calendar getting it agreed upon in the house, going to send us, going to committee, back to the house. what to those people who are
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hung in the balance due until the replacement is found? >> here is part of the interim. right now, we're still debating the repeal. we don't have that. next week, the interim could be that the senate brings to the floor part of the replacement at the house passed this week. the buying groups paid if the senate would vote on co-ops and buying groups next week, maybe democrats would say, why would we want to prevent consumers from joining together to get a better price? why would democrats vote against the aarp being able to negotiate better drug prices and insurance prices? i think it is such a marvelous idea, we should bring it forward next week, and if democrats want help, something that would really bring down costs, then it is shame on them, but we should go ahead and have that vote next week. >> eric: of got to go. answer this question though. donald trump has said, as soon as this is finished, right now, the health care debate, whether it goes further or not or dies, he wanted to go to tax reform rate should trump pivot to tax reform now or try to continue wh
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health care? the american people still have a desire to hear about health care. who knows how long. >> i think legislators can walk and chew gum hopefully at the same time, so why don't we do both? why don't we set up a special committee -- >> eric: senator, absolutely. so many people ask, why don't they do both? why does it have to be one at a time? >> and here's my suggestion to the white house. get the freedom caucus in there. could the house leadership in there. get senate leaders in there, and let's have a continuing conversation. it doesn't have to be at the breakneck pace that it has been the last three days, but let's keep talking about it until we work it out. if we are going to talk about taxes simultaneously and move to that before we have the answer, so be it. but you can work both tracks, and whichever one comes to a resolution first, bring it to the floor for a vote. >> eric: senator, that is a really common sense solution. thank you very much. next on the rundown, with got the story behind today's
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♪ >> eric: and the impact "impact segment" tonight cannot democrats rejoicing over the fate of the republican health care plan. >> today is a great day for our country. it is a victory for the american people. >> i am pleased and hopeful that this step today will be a step toward a continuation of a more perfect union. >> this is a good day for the american people. >> sends a little bit of exuberance on our part, maybe just a little bit, it is on behalf of the american people. >> eric: president trump nonturning fire on his democratic opponents in congress. >> this year should be much worse for obamacare. what would be really good with
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no democratic support, and its explodes, which it will soon, if they got together with us and got a real health care bill. i'd be totally open to it and i think that's going to happen. i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumer because now they own obamacare. they own it. >> eric: joining us now with more from washington, fox news correspondent kevin corke and from capitol hill fox news chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. we'll begin with you, a little bit of really rejoicing on the democratic side. >> no question about it. they've been sitting back and watc fractures on the republican side, and happy to see it fell apart, essentially, right before their very eyes. it was a very tense day here on capitol hill. statuary hall behind me had a lot of traffic going back and forth to the house floor, the leadership offices, trying to cut a deal. they needed 210 or 215 votes or so, one of the committee chairman involved in this effort said they got to about 200, and we were hearing they thought
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they were trending in the right direction, but we were also hearing that they thought the final few votes would be the hardest to get. and so >> paul ryan went up to the white house and said, we are falling short. the president called it quits. vice president mike pence kim met down here to capitol hill to meet with house conservatives to try to get a few more votes, but came out of the meeting and said, we are still no, and bottom-line, rather than suffer an epic defeat, they decided just to pull it down and have no vote today. >> eric: when >> ryan went to the white house, he came out and had that press conference very quickly and said, i suggested we pull the bill. was it his idea or was it trumps idea? >> i think they are two ways to look at this, if you are looking at winners and losers, i think the short term is, it is speaker ryan. in general, i think there was an expectation that somehow he would be able to get this over the finish line. long term though, i think the
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president may not end up being the bad guy here. at least politically speaking great let me explain. i know speaker ryan came out and said, listen, i went to the president, i asked him to pull the spell. but long-term, keep this in mind. if obamacare somehow folds, falls apart, or in any way shape form, or fashion, doesn't live up to the promise that it made, that could be a net positive, not just for the president but the party. speaker ryan had to fall on the sword and came here to do just that. spohn mike, we heard president trump came out and mike come out and say come i want to know where this is going to become a going to pass this on to the senate floor or not, and he pushed. today, he didn't get his vote. the feeling from the congressional side? >> folks here capitol hill give the president a lot of credit for meetings, a lot of lawmakers that had never been to the white house before for a face-to-face meeting with the president of the united states, he worked it, he was on the
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phone at all hours, he sent his top aides appeared last night around this time, we had reince priebus, bannon, kellyanne conway, we had mick mulvaney, the budget director. today we had the vice president appear. it was a full court press. they gave everything they had. but bottom line, you had some conservatives who had their concerns paid once it was called obamacare lite, hard to get them on board paid you had some moderates come out leonard lance, my hometown, he said some of these policies are popular, i can't just vote to scrap it all. he had a conservative problem and a moderate problem in the rear left complexities. still and that was going on in the halls of congress, at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, was there a sense that this was going to go down, around here, felt for a couple of days now that those folks weren't lined up and thisd still either go down or be dela. >> no question, i think a lot of
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people here were hopeful. you may have watched the press briefing this afternoon and you heard sean spicer, hey, whoa, take it easy, let's not be so negative." let's not kid ourselves. i think the entire room and frankly the entire journalism world felt the thing was going to down. they were hopeful, as mike pointed out. they were furiously trying to make a rally for the last commit segment ten votes. they didn't have them. and i had that sense and i think the folks in the west wing had that sense. >> eric: i don't mean to interrupt you, but from this standpoint, you watch these may watch the press briefings, you watch the demeanor, and you can see, there is a certain hop in his step and things are going good and a little bit less when they're not going good. i've got to tell you, you haven't seen that for a couple of days there. i think tax reform cannot guys cannot will be a completely different story. very quickly, this is one of those things where it moderates and they cannot let's call them the freedom caucus, they can both wrap their arms around.
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>> absolutely, republicans want to do tax reform, they feel like the president, as a businessman, has a very good case to make for tax reform, he understands the tax code red health care policy is very complicated. there are few people here on capitol hill and all the complexity of it. some of them had joined the president's team, so there was hope they could bring it across the finish line. bottom line, there were a lot of different ideas about how you replace it, and it didn't get done. >> eric: going to have to leave it there. it there. thank you thank you both. up next on "the factor" special, critics overjoyed after today's failed health care vote, but jeopardy like they claim? stay tuned. ♪(music plays)
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born in the personal story segmented, critics are coming today's health care bill failure is a major loss for
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president trump, but could it actually turned into a win for his agenda? joining us to analyze, adriana cohen, columnist for "the boston herald," and with us in studio, democratic strategists jessica tarlov. i'm going to make it a declaratory comment and you tell me where i'm wrong. a win for donald trump and a win for america. >> no. it's a win for america, it's not a win for donald trump. today, 24 million americans got to keep their health insurance, and you know i don't care obamacare is perfect, and i hope this will be an opportunity for democrats and republicans to work together on smart fixes for that, but donald trump come up begrudgingly, it did take a while, threw's capital behind this. he went to the freedom caucus and tried to bully them into backing him, he walked out, singled out mark meadows and said, we're going to get this done, right? didn't end up able to do that. i don't think it is a win, i'm waiting for his tweet. >> eric: adriana, let's put it this way, if this made it into
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law law and of 2020, president trump is winning reelection, and premiums are higher because the group that put this bill together never thought of the higher premiums in 2020, you could make a case that this failure is a win for trump. >> i definitely think it is a win for donald trump for precisely the reason you just stated. if premiums are high, just as high as obamacare or worse, that could cost him the election cannot certainly cost republicans the elections in the midterm. and then also, we know from last time around the cbo scoring ended up being wrong, off by 120%. this time around when the republicans say, oh, we're going to bring costs down, how do we know that is going to be true? this could have hurt him later on, which pointed out. also, i think it is good for him to pivot now to areas where he can win like tax and regulatory reform. revising dodd-frank, renegotiating nafta, those are all areas that will be enormously successful for him
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and for the american people. i think he should pivot to areas that are really going to benefit the middle class. >> he should definitely pivot. >> eric: let me ask you this, let's say obamacare starts to falter, jessica, straight politics now, okay? starting to falter, not going to leave 9 or 10 million people out on the streets, so you help them out. in the meantime, you point out that obamacare was so bad and it is failing. >> identified that out. you pointed it out. that is a way that this could play out politically, and democrats need to be aware of that and they need to be willing to fix it. we talked about this many times ourselves, saying every time you have something, it takes a huge amount of work to pass legislation to this. props to nancy pelosi. i think we saw how hard she worked. >> eric: on what, a failing health care plan? >> it's not a failing health care plan. the cost of health care is lowe
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lower -- >> eric: i want to talk about the politics, adriana. here is how it plays out. starts to fail. donald trump comes in and says, we're going to take care of the people who would be left on the sidelines because of this terrible bill that is failing. then he says, here's the replacement we should've had all along. >> that's right. democrats have been saying, oh, with the new g.o.p. health care plan, 24 pillion may lose their health insurance pay that would have been a really bad thing that would've hurt republicans and donald trump pretty actually dodged a bullet, and my opinion. i think republicans should go back to the drawing board, they need to cobble together a better replacement plan that will be better than obamacare because if they don't commit they're going to be voted out of office. >> had seven years to do this. i know you didn't like the plan, eric. you talked about this. you had seven years to do this, run and three elections on repeal and replace peter couldn't get this done. you can donald trump is going to come up with a better plan, he wants his tax cuts. >> eric: he'll do that too, he
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will, he ran on it, he can't just let it go. >> he ran on the bordered wall. >> eric: have to go. directly ahead, a showdown between the leaders of the house intelligence committee is reaching a fever pitch over the russia-trump campaign investigation. we've got new details right after this. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. into engineering the why docan-am defender?effort because a job worth doing, is worth doing right. can-am defender. tough, capable, clever. get a 3-year brp limited warranty plus a $1,500 cash rebate on 2016 defender models.
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within the house intelligence committee. today, chairman definiteness and ranking member adam schiff escalated the war of words over the possible unmasking of trump transition team members by u.s. intelligence agencies. >> these reports that he read, for the most part, our valuable intelligence. however, i think there are questions in those reports that i wonder if it does reach that threshold of foreign intelligence, and then you have to wonder, why were names unmasked? not a full validation or vindication of the president. not a partial validation of the president. a zero validation of the president. even if you accept with the chairman has said. splintering is now with more from washington, fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge great catherine, some big developments today, specifically them talking about nunes bringing back james call me and admiral rogers, i think a monday, right? >> that's right. what they confirm today is that they are recalling the fbi director and the nsa director,
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and they are recalling them for a hearing on tuesday, and it is going to be a closed private briefing, it will not be open to the public. in order to make that happen, they have canceled a previously scheduled hearing with former obama administration officials and the deputy attorney general. to decode it for folks at home based on these new documents, the republican chairman wants to get more answers from the fbi director and the nsa director whose agency does surveillance before he then puts his questions to these former obama administration officials who really have inside knowledge about what they were doing at that time. >> eric: you point out that this is a closed-door meeting. why is a closed door? today if you like they'll get more information if it is behind closed doors? they're going to get more information, plus, the level at which they are talking is the classified level, and very little would be unclassified. i specifically asked the republican chairman today if he was recalling the fbi director
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because he felt his testimony this week have not been forthcoming. he said no, it is based on the new record that it needs to be in a classified setting because it is sensitive. >> eric: very quickly, i've got to go, but with these clapper and meetings, we can all hear the way they are answering? >> that is a good question two. the original plan was to have them publicly testify, that is now going to be rescheduled, and it is not clear, at least based on our reporting, whether that may be private too. it's going to depend a lot on what comes out of that hearing on tuesday. going to have to watch and wait. >> eric: absolutely paid to the best reality tv you can think of. catherine, thank you so much better now let's bring in from washington, gillian turner, a former national security staffer, along with lieutenant colonel schaefer, senior member at the center for policy research. let's start with you. let's unpack this a little bit, there seems to be a lot of misinformation, disinformation,
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who knows what, going back and forth, when are we going to get to the bottom of this, of all of it? >> first, it is ironic now, eric, looking back, no one on the democratic side was raising cain with all the information from that british sources put out there. let's get that as a framer. with that said, eric, a lot of methods and capabilities now being discussed behind closed doors. as catherine said, going to do a few things. i have been in closed hearings, closed hearings allow you to disclose up to the logical classification level. not everything, but up to a level of what the methodology was used and not only that, bute authorities were exactly. i have run these sorts of operations, and let me tell you something, ten years ago -- 's point let me ask you, does that mean they can say who unmasked general flynn? >> absolutely. it will be that level. because it will go down to exactly which keystroke unmasked
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which name, which tells you exactly who struck that keystroke. more importantly, were talking about, even if that was authorized, if you take on the face of it that this collection was authorized, which i think is questionable, you then have to figure out who authorized the unmasking and, more important, who then authorized by dissemination, which is the biggest issue because that was leaked to "the new york times" periods point let me bring in gillian. i agree, gillian, a lot of the actual surveillance may have been legal, but it is the leaking and the unmasking that i think they are going to end up having a big problem explaining. >> that is the key. even if intelligence on president trump and his communication personally got swept up incidentally in foreign intelligence collection, it still, as you say, perfectly legal. you can't designate people by their names, you can't get their identities and then circulate the stuff around the intelligence community. that is what we are going to have to deal with here. this whole issue, this whole debacle coming back to the
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problem of, got to tamp down on the leaks. national security leaks are a crime and somebody has got to start holding people's full and my feet to the fire. >> eric: information pumping out. i want to put this up a little bit. adam schiff is the democrat on the panel who felt like he went a little bit too far. i'm going to play a sound bite, specifically about evidence and what he has. listen. >> there is more than circumstantial evidence now. again, i think -- speak what you have seen direct evidence of collusion? >> i don't want to go into specifics. but i will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation. >> eric: colonel, the reason that is important, trigger types of evidence, circumstantial and direct, meaning, i saw it. he says it's not circumstantial. is he saying he's got a smoking gun? >> yes, that's what he's saying. then again, this has been managed by innuendo.
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death by a thousand cuts of innuendo. let's remember that every time this is leaked to the other side commit to the other media, it is always anonymous sources. on your network and others are saying, we believe jim clapper and john brennan were probably the ones leaking this. it is time for the folks who have the so-called smoking gun to cough it up. and so it is long past time for that to happen. eric, as we have stipulated here, this is, in my judgment, a mcguffin, the old term, the throwaway in hollywood, that's what this is. they don't want to talk about the fact that someone is going to get caught, . probably illegally. spun clapper is the guy who testified in front of the senate panel saying that there was no unmasking of the american people under oath and he had to walk that back. are we going to have another one of these? >> unfortunate command that is what we're dealing with them. is our government spying on us? it is a very basic civil liberties, civil rights questio
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question, people understandably want to have an answer. i think that we can't only point out foul on the democratic side. i think what chairman nunes did by going direct to president obama on some of the stuff, regardless of what was about, the content is not relevant. i think that was more than a process foul, i think that was really a bad move. i just want to point it out, and interest in being fair and balanced. >> eric: i've got to go. president trump, you mean. going to president trump. >> sorry, yet. >> eric: when this "o'reilly factor" special returns, maryland lawmakers under fire for legislation to make it a sanctuary state just days, days after the rockville speed 97 case involving two illegal immigrants. an emotional debate moments awa away. using preparation h. for any sort of discomfort in yours.
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case for two students accused of attacking aborting a girl and her high school bathroom. the governor condemned the county where rockville is located paid >> montgomery county is acting as a sanctuary county and there not cooperating with federal authorities. that is a big part of the problem. >> eric: joining a stealth reaction, steve cortez, and from baltimore, keith haynes, a democratic member of the maryland house of democrats who cosponsored this sanctuary bill. just days after this atrocious, atrocious rape case, you voted to turn maryland into a sanctuary state? why? >> well, let me first of all say that the state of maryland has been progressive when it comes to issues of immigration in this area. and what we thought to do was to
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put forward this legislation called the trust act to basically restore community trust, trust between the community and law enforcement as we see things happening on the federal level. >> eric: but this case, this rape case, just days prior comes up, when you're debating whether or not this is a good idea? >> let me just emphasize that this was an issue that did come up. but when you look at the incident that happened in montgomery county, which is a horrific situation, by all means. we know that. but there really isn't an immigration component, when you look at the allegations that took place. >> eric: come on. sir, what demand is not an immigration component? these two were illegal, illegals in york county who allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl. i've got to bring steve in. it's the definition of what we
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are worried about. >> but let me explain what i mean. let me explain what i mean by that. under state law as it is now in the state of maryland, a local law enforcement police agency could not detain these individuals. they had no record. they had no affiliation with any gangs. so they could not have a federal -- >> eric: i've got to bring steve in. my mind is flowing on this right now. this is the reason why sanctuary cities are not popular, are dangerous. >> also one of the reasons why donald trump won. this kind of cognitive distance. as a hispanic allows illegal immigration and is the father of teen girls, this story horrifies me. to say there is no immigration component, he was caught, sanchez was called, at the border. now, that should have been the end of the story. you are illegal, returned to sender. he is released, maryland
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authorities decide to put a grown man, an 18-year-old, in a class with a freshman girl, a child, who, sadly, eric, may never really be a child again because of the way she was traumatized by these two illegals who should never have been here in the very first place. >> eric: delegate hayden's, i'm going to let you answer that. >> absolutely true. these two individuals were undocumented, when they were here, yes, but under federal la law, these individuals cannot because of their age, were released to the department of health and human services. and in turn, given -- >> eric: quickly. >> let me finish. let me finish. maryland, state law, an enforcement agency, the police
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constitutionally cannot detain these two individuals. >> eric: but this is the problem. these are things that fall through the cracks and people get hurt and young girls get raped. >> eric, you know, what happens is, liberal elites love to talk in theory about what they see as social justice. what's popular at universities. the reality is, on the streets, policemen, victims, have to live with the carnage of these policies. by the way, in many cases, the victims are hispanics themselve themselves, what just happened in los angeles, where a 5-times deported men killed a young, beautiful sandra durand come up mother in the united states united states. donald trump ran and won largely on the notion that we are going to take our country back from the elites and the skin to make these kind of misbegotten policies. >> eric: gentlemen, i have to leave it right there. a hot debate. a reminder, bill spoke old
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school: life in the same lane" will be out on friday, but you can go online now. there'll be a town hall meeting on billoreilly.com. bill will read some fun stuff from the book. and jesse watters and a former top nypd official on the contribute in fact a podcast this week, you can check that out on billoreilly.com. coming up here, health care drama was just one part of a pivotal week for trump. join us for "no spin analysis" on the repercussions. aleve pm for a better am.
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>> eric: in the "back of the book" segment tonight, it has been an enormous "newsweek," from the stunning turn of events with the health care bill to new surveillance allegations, and don't forget,
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there is a london terror attack this week. joining us now to help with this all in perspective, bob cassatt, editor-in-chief of the hill newspaper cuba mack, along with a correspondent for the independent journal review. had a bit weak yourself, going with them, is that the biggest story, or i do do think this health care thing overshadows it. speak i do think health care thing overshadowed it. that's obviously the biggest story of the year so far. this is something republicans have been working on for years, failed miserably. who knows where the party goes from here. so that obviously has to be considered the biggest story of the week. i think tiller's and was a huge story in washington because, as i wash reported, he said he didn't want the job, he didn't look for the job, and he took the job because his wife basically told him to. i think that says something about this administration that some of these people stepped up because they felt like they had to. spawn your biggest story of the year? >> definitely health care. this figure, paul ryan,
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guaranteed to pull a joe namath and said this would pass. it did not, he faced the music in a press conference, but this was really a disaster for the g.o.p. they said that they would get it done. president trump got on board, this is a devastating defeat for republicans, honestly gleeful that they couldn't get this done. maybe they will revisit it. >> eric: you've been around for a very long time, have you ever seen anything so emphatically sure it's going to pass, and were going to bring this, going to get this done, and have it failed so miserably? >> they weren't close. i know they said they weren't close, but we were counting, and they weren't, at least 12 down, probably 20 down, if they were close, they would have brought it to the floor and try to create some votes on the floor. this is something that's going to be looked back at history as a big, big defeat. in politics, you can always come back, we'll see how they come back. >> eric: score the media on this. there were a lot of 80 outlets
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saying, this is going to work, your thoughts and how the media handled it? >> that is a great question. i think there was such a belief, because they weren't sure for months that this is what they were going to do. this is what they had been campaigning on paid republicans won in the midterms, gained seats in 2012 in the house, gained seats again in 2014. at the end of the day, the public decided for over the last couple of months, hey, a majority actually likes obamaca. so how the media coverage, i think the media coverage, as the republicans were saying, look, we're going to pass this, then they didn't. i think they did a fine job. >> eric: bob, there is a very high-profile news person, journalist, who i saw and she said, what you think? i said, i don't think it's going to pass, and she said, well, they said that about trump too. i said, oh, no, this is far different than the general election. >> republican leaders in the
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house, they thought these guys, the freedom caucus, as well as some centrists, were just going to roll over on the house floor. but when you're taking current benefits away, that is very difficult to do, eric. and they were fearing for their jobs, so that's why they were going to vote no and that's why they didn't even bring it to the floor. >> eric: you know what cannot you guys are so good, we're going to ask you to stay with u. when we return, we'll have a preview of what is going to be the next big, monumental week ahead with those two people coming right up. they're delicious and help keep my body in balance. i love these. sunsweet amaz!n prunes, the feel good fruit.
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>> eric: continuing now with aaron mcpike and bob cusack from washington. let's preview the big week ahead in washington. bob, let's start with you this time. >> i think the big story line is how they pick up the pieces. how do republicans pick up the pieces after this devastating defeat? where do they go? do they do healthcare? i don't think so. think think they will move
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to tax reform. the treasury secretary says he wants to get stacks reform done by the end of august. that will be a heavy lift. reforming the tax code hasn't been done since 1986. there's a reason. it's very difficult. republicans have to pivot. that's "the big story." >> eric: erin, have you to give president trump credit he went to big thing in healthcare to another big thing in massive tax reform. >> tax reform is still going to be difficult. the challenge he might have is instead trying to foift infrastructure which mitch mcconnell is not particularly enthused about. the administration is and so is the public. that would actually be a pretty good win they could try to go for. the biggest story next week is what happens with the house and senate intelligence committee. >> eric: me, too. 100 percent. >> and for a couple reasons. look, you have got, as bob knows well a number of congressional reporters right now not chasing the healthcare vote anymore. they are looking for something to do. adam schiff and dianne
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feinstein have a lot to say. a lot of people right now mad at devin nunes for going to donald trump and giving him more information. every time something like that happens, there are some sources at the fbi that cnn has that get mad and they go leak something new to cnn and the story -- there is another shoe to drop. i think we will see a lot to come out there. >> eric: bob, for the first time in a long time both sides, we heard, have a smoking gun. what happens when both sides have a smoking gun? >> eric, there is so much we don't know. we will eventually find out. they are probably going to be some bombshells. yeah, at any moment i think the intel story can be the big story of the month and maybe the year. >> eric: yeah, okay. erin, your thoughts on both? we talked about adam schiff saying he has direct evidence, not circumstantial evidence, direct evidence and then devin nunes says he knows. he has been told who is leaking some of these names. unmasking, i'm sorry. unmasking some of these names. >> who sun masking them? i don't know. i mean, if i knew. >> eric: no, i'm saying devin nunes has been told.
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he has seen these names in documents. >> i'm not clear what you are asking. >> eric: i'm saying, we have both sides claiming that they have the other side on the hook for something maybe illegal. >> maybe, too. i hope we get some of this information out next week. he obviously has said he is going to make one of these hearings scheduled for tuesday now is private. they are kicking some back. look, it just clear that the story is going to go on. who knows. obviously, adam schiff and dianne feinstein have some kind of ax to grind because they keep on giving out drops of information. >> eric: all right. okay. all right. you know, guys, it's been a great, great big week. i'm expecting another great big week next week as well. erin and bob, we will say thank you to both of you. before we go tonight, guess what? now is a perfect time to preorder my new book "the swamp." all the details are at eric bolling.com. it's going to be huge, let's put it that way. that's it tonight.
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thank you for watching the special factor poo tomorrow mock. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly who will be back on monday. please remember, the spin stops right here, because we are looking out for you. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening to tucker carlson tonight. more high profile crimes apparently committed by illegal immigrants in this country. tonight we will bring you a horrifying story of a gang member deported four times accused of sexually assaulting a child and stabbing two women. also the political aftermath from the failure of the republican obamacare repeal. that happened today as you doubtless know. we will tell what you it means. first, the question over whether the obama administration spied on the trump campaign remains unanswered. two days ago house intel chair devin nunes said there was strong evidence of surveillance. enough to he says he is unsure partly because the fbi is not releasi