nathan lane organize courts may call the number on your screen that's all the time we have left this evening. thank you for being with us. hope you have a good weekend. we will see you back here on monday. ♪ >> eric: hi, i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching this "o'reilly factor" special, drama on the potomac. what a dramatic day it has been as republicans surprised everyone by pulling the vote on their health care plan. a house speaker paul ryan gave a blunt assessment about today's setback and the effort to repeal and replace obamacare. >> we came really close today, but we came up short. i spoke to the president just a little while ago. i told him that the best thing i think to do is to pull thise bill, and he agreed with this decision. this is a setback, no two ways t about it, but it is not the end of the story, because i know

that every man and woman in this conference is now motivated more than ever to step up our game, promises. our >> eric: meanwhile, president trump remained optimistic. >> i work as a team player and would have loved to have seen it passed, but i think you know, very clear, wasn't a speech i made where this deal wasn't mentioned, that perhaps the best thing that could happen was exactly what happened today because we will end up with a truly great health care bill in the future after this mess known as obamacare explodes. so i want to thank everybody for being here. it will go very smoothly, i really believe. i think this is something that is certainly interesting. we all learned a lot. >> eric: president trump was also pressed on the impact of the house freedom caucus on the health care bill's failure. >> do you feel betrayed by the house freedom caucus at all? they seem to be the most difficult -- >> no, they're friends of f min.

i'm disappointed. we could've had it. i'm a little surprised, to be honest with you. we really had it. it was pretty much there within grasp. >> eric: joining us now with reaction, kentucky senator rand paul, who is a mmclose ally of the house freedm caucus. senator, do you think the president was indirectly referring to you specifically in this remarks? >> no, but but i will say, i still have a greatu deal of optimism that we will come to a repeal off obamacare. nothing has united republicans more than our desire to repeal obamacare. i think it led to our electoral success taking over the house in 2010, the senate in 2014, white house in 2016. we are not so much united on thn replacement part, but i still think it can be worked out. i am hoping that both sides will say, we will continue to talk. i think that president trump has been very open too many of already is.

i just think we didn't have enough time and we set an artificial deadline and insteadn of saying we're going to work until we get this, i don't see why we can't work the week after and the week after, but i'm going to continue on that and replacing it. there's some great ideas for replacing it. >> eric: we watched over the last three weeks, we watched the house freedom caucus saying, "we are not on board yet. explain to us why we should be." they never got the answers they were looking for. in the aftermath of the failed or pulled vote, people will say, it's the house freedom caucus that held out, the reason why we now have obamacare going forward. what do you say to those people? >> i think the freedom caucus wants what all republicans want, a repeal of obamacare that ultimately lowers the price of insurance for people. if you look at the number one problem of obamacare, it's that people in the individual markets go out to buy insurance and the premiums are soaring throughgh e roof. that's the real problem. that's why what i promoted as

the number one replacement is letting people joint buying groups. one of the number one unreported stories is that the house of representatives actually passed my replacement version or a similar version for lettinge people join buying groups or co-ops to bring prices down for it. what i'm advising senator mcconnell and leadership is, that bill should be part of next week. this is a bill that is a big part of replacement.an we should bring that up next week and see how the democrats will respond to that. >> eric: i want to show our audience a little piece ofof tae from earlier in the week whereow you actually went to the house freedom caucus side, and i guess you were teaching them the art of the deal.he take a look. >> i brought you all a gift tonight. "the art of the deal." i do think that it is important as we go into this that we realize we have enormous power. actually, you guys haveha enorms power if you stick together. i put up a quote from "the art of the deal" that i thought was appropriate. the worst thing that you can possibly do in a deal is to seem desperate.ro that makes the other guy smellug

blood, and then you are dead. >> eric: so the lesson to be learned here, don't accept the first deal, but bring another one? >> these were donald trump's words. "don't be desperate to make a deal." what i would add to that is, we are open to making a deal, and we still are open. conservatives across the w couny want to repeal obamacare. unfortunately, as the house leadership brought this forward, they brought repeal and replace with obamacare lite. nobody ran on that, and no conservative across theep land wants it. we can start over with repeal as a basis and actually some of the ideas, look, i love the fact that speaker brian brightly >> eric: i watched you guys out there saying, let's repeal now, there is bicameral supporty for repealing obamacare. but what do you do with the people, the 9 or 10 million people that are on obamacare?

if you repeal it, what do you do with them? >> here's the history of what has happened in the past. dozens of times, the house of representatives under republican leadership has already voted for a clean repeal. they've done it dozens of times. in the senate, we've done it at least once. what do we do with the people the government is currently providing health insurance for? what i want is for everyone of them to be protected by group insurance.it i would open it up to every individual to be able to buy a group policy which helps them have leverage. here is an example. aarp has over 30 million people. what if they had one person negotiate prices? they could put prices down. actually, the house voted this last week. nobody's talking about it. >> eric: i agree, i think there are some very, very smart things in the replacement, which we were talking about, the replacement. the interim, this whole legislative calendar getting it agreed upon in the house, going to send us, going to committee, back to the house. what do those people who areda hung in the balance do until the replacement is found?

>> here is part of t the interi. right now, we're still debating the repeal. we don't have that.ou next week, the interim could be that the senate brings to the floor part of the replacement at the house passed this week. the buying groups. if the senate would vote on co-ops and buying groups next week, maybe democrats would say, why would we want to prevent consumers from joining together to get a better price? why would democrats vote against the aarp being able to negotiate better drug prices and insurance prices? i think it is such a marvelous idea, we should bring it forward next week, and if democrats want help on something that would really bring down costs, then it is shame on them, but we should go ahead and have that vote next week. >> eric: i've got to go.ts answer this question though. donald trump has said, as soon as this is finished, right now, the health care debate, whether it goes further or not or dies, he wanted to pivot to tax reform. should trump pivot to tax reform now or try to continue with health care? the american people still have a

desire to hear about health care. who knows how long? >> i think legislators can walk and chew gum hopefully at the same time, so why don't we do both? why don't we set up a special committee -- >> eric: senator, absolutely. so many people ask, why don't they do both? why does it have to be one at a time? >> and here's my suggestion to the white house. get the freedom caucus in there. get the house leadership in there. get senate leadersge in there, d let's have a continuing conversation. it doesn't have to be at the breakneck pace that it has been the last three days, but let's keep talking about it until we work it out. if we are going to talk about taxes simultaneously and move to that before we have the answer, so be it. but you can work both tracks, and whichever one comes to a resolution first, bring it to the floor for a vote. >> eric: senator, that is a really common sense solution. thank you very much. next on "the rundown," we've e t the story behind today's health care drama. we'll be right back with that.

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learn more at cancercenter.com/experts appointments available now. >> eric: in the "impact segment" tonight, democrats rejoicing over the fate of the republican health care plan. >> today is a great day for our country. it is a victory for the american people. >> i am pleased and hopeful that this step today will be a step toward a continuation of a more perfect union. >> this is a good day for the american people. >> if you sense a little bit of exuberance on our part, maybe just a little bit, it is on behalf of the american people. >> eric: president trump now turning fire on his democratic opponents in congress. >> this year should be much worse for obamacare. what would be really good with no democratic support, when it explodes, which it will soon, if

they got together with us and got a real health care bill. i'd be totally open to it, and i think that's going to happen. i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumerea because now they own obamacare. they own it. >> eric: joining us now with more from washington, fox news correspondent kevin corke, and from capitol hill, fox newss chiefh congressional correspondent mike emanuel. we'll begin with you, a little bit of really rejoicing on the democratic side. >> no question about c it. they've been sitting back andd watching the fractures on the republican side, and happy to see it fall apart, essentially, right before their very eyes. it was a very tense day here on capitol hill. statuary hall behind me had a lot of traffic going back and forth to the house floor, the leadership offices, trying to cut a deal. they needed 210 or 215 votes or so, one of the committee chairman involved in this effort said they got to about 200, and we were hearing they thought they were trending in therm rigt direction, but we were also hearing that they thought the

final few votes would be the hardest to get. and so speaker paul ryan went ua to the white house and said, we are falling short. the president called it quits. vice president mike pence came down here to capitol hill to meet with house conservatives to try to get a few more votes, but came out of the meeting and said, we are still no, and bottom-line, rather than suffer an epic defeat, they decided just to pull it down and have no vote today. >> eric: when speaker ryan went to the white house, heno ce out and had that press conference very quickly and said, i suggested we pull the bill. was it his idea or was it trump's idea? >> i think there are two ways to look at this. if you are looking at winnersil and losers, i think the short term is, it is speaker ryan. in general, i think there was an expectation that somehow he would be able to get this over the finish line. long term though, i think the president may not end up beinge the bad guy here at least

politically speaking. let me explain. i know speaker ryan came out and said, listen, i went to the president, i asked him to pull thiser bill. but long term, keep this inn mind. i if obamacare somehow folds, falls apart or in any way, shape, form, or fashion, doesn't live up to the promise that it made, that could be a net positive, not just for the president but the party. speaker ryan had to fall on the sword and came here to do just that. >> eric: mike, we heard president trump came out,ea migt come out and say, i want to know where this is going to be, goinr to pass this on to the senate floor or not, and he pushed. today, he didn't get his vote. the feeling from the congressional side? >> folks here on capitol hill give the president a lot of credit for meetings, a lot ofng lawmakers that had never beenbea face-to-face meeting with the l president of the united states. he worked it. he was on the phone at all hours. he sent his top aides up here

last night around thiske time. we had reince priebus, bannon, kellyanne conway, we had mick mulvaney, the budget director. today we had the vice president up here. it was a full court press. they gave everything they had. but bottom line, youy had conservatives who had theirit concerns. once it was called obamacare lite, hard to get them on board. you had some moderates. leonard lance, my hometown, he said, some of these policies are popular with my constituents. i can't just vote to scrap it all. he had a conservative problem and a moderate problem in the real-life complexities. realize the complexities of this health conference. >> eric: that was going on in the halls of congress. at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, was there a sense that this was going to go down? around here, felt for a couple of days now that those folks weren't lined up and this could still either go down or be delayed. >> no question. i think a lot of people here were hopeful. you may have watched the press briefing this afternoon and you

heard sean spicer, "hey, whoa, take it easy, let's not be so negative." let's not kid ourselves. i think the entire room and frankly the entire journalism world felt the thing was goingot to down.ot they were hopeful, as mike pointed out. they were furiously trying to make a rally for those last, say, ten votes. they didn't have them. and i had that sense and i think the folks in the west wingor had that sense --- >> eric: i don't mean to interrupt you, but from this standpoint, you watch these, watch the press briefings, you watch the demeanor, and you can see, there is a certain hop in his step when things are going good and a little bit less when they're not going good. i've got to tell you, you haven't seen that for aa couple of days there. i think tax reform, guys, will be a completely different story. very quickly, this is one of those things where it moderates and they, let's call them the freedom caucus, they can both wrap their arms around. >> absolutely, republicans want to do tax reform, they feel like

the president, as a businessman, has a very good case to make for tax reform. he understands the tax code. health care policy is very complicated. there are few people here on capitol hill that know all the complexity of it.x some of them had joined the president's team, so there was hope they could bring it across the finish line. bottom line, there were a lot of different ideas about how you replace it, and it didn't get done. >> eric: going to have to leave it there it there. thank you both. up next on "the factor" special, trump critics overjoyed after today's failed health care vote, but is his agenda really in jeopardy like they claim? stay tuned. we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence. hi hey you look good. thank you, i feel good. it all starts with eating right. that's why i eat amaz!n prunes now.

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>> eric: in "the personal story" segment, critics are claiming today's health care bill failure is a major loss for president trump, but could it

actually turn into a win for his agenda? joining us to analyze, adriana cohen, columnist for "the boston herald," and with us in studio, democratic strategist jessica tarlov. i'm going to make it a declaratory comment and you tell me where i'm wrong. d a win for donald trump and a win for america. >> no. it's a win for america, it's not a win for donald trump.nd today, 24 million americans got to keep their health insurance, and you know i don't think obamacare is perfect, and i hope this will be an opportunity for democrats and republicans to work together on smart fixes for that, but donald trump, begrudgingly, it did take a while, threw his capital behind this. he went to the freedom caucus and tried to bully them into backing him, he walked out, singled out mark meadows and said, we're going to get this done, right? didn't end up able to do that. i don't think it is a win.n. i'm waiting for his tweet. >> eric: adriana, let's put it this way, if this made it into law and if in 2020, president trump is winning

reelection, and premiums are higher because the group that put this bill together never thought of the higher premiums in 2020, you could make a case that this failure is a win for o trump. >> i definitely think it is a win for donald trump for precisely the reason you just stated. if premiums are high, just as high as obamacare or worse, that could cost him the election, certainly cost republicans the elections in the midterm. and then also, we know from last time around the cboin scoring ended up being wrong, off by 120%. this time around, when the republicans say, oh, we're going to bring costs down, how do we know that is going to be true? this could have hurt him later on, which you pointed out. also, i think it is good for him to pivot now to areas where he can win, like tax and regulatory reform, revising dodd-frank, renegotiating nafta. those are all areas that will be enormously successful for him and for the american people. i think he should pivot to areas

that are really going to benefit the middle class. >> he should definitely pivot. >> eric: let me ask you this,, let's say obamacare starts to falter, jessica, straight politics now, okay? starting to falter, not going to leave 9 or 10 million people out on the streets, so you help them out. in the meantime, you point out that obamacare was so bad and it is failing. >> i didn't point that out. you pointed it out. that is a way that this could play out politically, and democrats need to be aware of that and they need to be willing to fix it. we talked about this many timess ourselves, saying every time you have something, it takes a huge amount of work to pass legislation to this. props to nancy pelosi.i. i think we saw how hard she worked. >> eric: on what, a failing health care plan? >> it's not a failing health care plan. the cost of health care is lower -- >> eric: i want to talk about the politics, adriana. here is how it plays out.

starts to fail. donald trump comes in and says, we're going to take care of the people who would be left on the sidelines because of this terrible bill that is failing.g. then he says, here's the replacement we should've had all along. >> that's f right. democrats have been saying, oh, with the new g.o.p. healthth cae plan, 24 million may lose their health insurance pay that wouldo have been a really bad thing that would've hurt republicans and donald trump pretty actually dodged a bullet, in my opinion. i think republicans should go back to the drawing board, they need to cobble together a better replacement plan that will be better than obamacare because if they don't, they're going to be voted out of office. >> had seven years to do this. i know you didn't like the plan, eric. you talked about this. you had seven years to do this, ran in three elections on repeal and replace. couldn't get this done. you think donald trump is going to come up with a better plan, he wants his taxal cuts. >> eric: he'll do that too, he will. he ran on it, he can't just let it go.

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>> eric: in the "unresolved problems" segment tonight, the intensifying role within the house intelligence committee. today, chairman devin nunes and ranking member adam schiff escalated the war of words over

the possible unmasking of trumpp transition team members by u.s. intelligence agencies. >> these reports that he read,p for the most part, are valuable intelligence. however, i think there are questions in those reports that i wonder if it does reach that threshold of foreign intelligence, and then you a hae to wonder, why were names unmasked? >> not a full validation or vindication of the president. not a partial validation of the president. a zero validation of the president.. even if you accept what the chairman has said. >> eric: joining us now with more from washington, fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. catherine, some big developments today, specifically them talking about nunes bringing back james comey and admiral rogers, i think monday, right?he >> that's right. what they confirmed today is that they are recalling the fbi director and the nsa director, and they are recalling them for a hearing on tuesday, and it is

going to be a closed private briefing. it will not be open o to the public. in order to make that happen, they have canceled a previously scheduled hearingen with former obama administration officials and the deputy attorney general. to decode it foror folks at hom, based on these new documents, the republican chairman wants to get more answers from the fbi director and the nsa director whose agency does surveillance before he then puts hisre administration officials who about what they were doing at that time. >> eric: you point out thatic this is a closed-door meeting. why is it closed door? today if you like they'll get more information if it is behind closed doors? >> yeah, they're going to get more information, plus, the level at which they are talking is the classified level, and very little would be unclassified. i specifically asked the republican chairman today if he was recalling the fbi director because he felt his testimony

this week have not been forthcoming. he said no, it is based on the new record that it needs to be in a classified setting because it is sensitive. >> eric: very quickly, i've got to go, but with these clapper meetings, we can all hear the way they are answering? >> that is a good question too.t the original plan was to have them publicly testify. that is now going to be rescheduled, and it is not clear, at least based on our reporting, whether that may be private too. it's going to depend a lot on what comes out of that hearing on tuesday. going to have to watch and wait. >> eric: absolutely. the best reality tv you can thinkg of. catherine, thank you so much. now let's bring in from washington, gillian turner, a former national security staffer, along with lieutenant colonel tony shaffer, senior member at the london center for policy research. let's start with you. let's unpack this a little bit, there seems to be a lot of f misinformation, disinformation, who knows what, going back and forth, when are we going to get

to the bottom of this, of all of it? >> first, it is ironic now, eric, looking back, no one on the democratic side was raising cain with all the informationir from that british sources put out there. let's get that as a framer.ng with that said, eric, a lot of methods and capabilities now being discussed behind closed doors. as catherine said, going to do a few things. i have been in closed hearings, closed hearings allow you to disclose up to the logical classification level. not everything, but up to a level of what methodology was used and not only that, but the authorities were exactly. i have run these sorts of operations, and let me tell you something, ten years ago -- >> eric: let me ask you, does that mean they can say who unmasked general flynn? >> absolutely. it will be that level. because it will go down to exactly which keystroke unmasked which name, which tells you exactly who struck that keystroke. more importantly, were talking about, even if that was authorized, if you take on the face of it that this collection

was authorized, which i think is questionable, you then have to figure out who authorized the unmasking and, more important, who then authorized by dissemination, which is theun biggest issue because that was leaked to "the new york times." >> eric: let me bring in gillian. i agree, gillian, a lot of the actual surveillance may have been legal, but it is the leaking and the unmasking that i think they are going to end up having a big problem explaining. >> that is the key. even if intelligence on president trump and his communication personally got swept up incidentally in foreign intelligence collection, it still, as you say, perfectlyna legal. you can't designate people by their names, you can't get their identities and then circulate the stuff around the intelligence community. that is what we are going to have to deal with here. this whole issue, this whole debacle coming back to the problem of, got to tamp down on the leaks. national security leaks are a crime and somebody has got to

start holding people's full and my feet to the fire. >> eric: information pumping out. i want to put this up a littles bit. adam schiff is the democrat on the panel who -- it felt like hw went a little bit too far. i'm going to play a sound bite, specifically about evidence and what he has. listen. >> there is more than circumstantial evidence now. again, i think -- >> you have seen direct evidence of collusion? >> i don't want to go into specifics. but i will say that w there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation. >> eric: colonel, the reason that is important, trigger types of evidence, circumstantial and direct, meaning, i saw it. he says it's not circumstantial. is he saying he's got a smoking gun? >> yes, that's what he's saying. then again, this has been managed by innuendo. death by a thousand cuts of innuendo.

let's remember that every time this is leaked to the other side, to the other media, it is always anonymousus sources. on your network and others are saying, we believe jim clapper and john brennan were probably the ones leaking this. it is time for the folks who have the so-called smoking gun to cough it up. and so it is long past time for that to happen. eric, as we have stipulated here, this is, in my judgment, a mcguffin, the old term, the throwaway in hollywood, that's's what this is. they don't want to talk aboutmc the fact that someone is going to get caught. probably illegally. >> eric: clapper is the guy who testified in front of the senate panel saying that there was no unmasking of the american people under oath and he had to walk that back. are we going to have another one of these? >> unfortunate, and that is what we're dealing withat them. is our government spying on us? it is a very basic civil liberties, civil rights question, people understandably want to have an answer.

i think that we can't only point out foul on the democratic side. i think what chairman nunes did by going direct to president obama on some of the stuff, regardless of what was about, the content is not relevant. i think that was more than a process foul, i think that was really a bad move. i just want to point it out, and interest in being fair andes balanced. >> eric: i've got to go. president trump, you mean. going to president trump. >> sorry, yeah. >> eric: when this "o'reilly factor" special returns, maryland lawmakers under fire for legislation to make it a sanctuary state just days, days after the rockville rape case involving two illegal immigrants. an emotional debate moments away.oc

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>> announcer: "the o'reilly factor." the number one cable news show for 16 years and counting. >> eric: thanks for staying with us for this special edition of "the factor." drama on the potomac. i'm eric bolling in for bill o'reilly. in the "factor follow-up" segment tonight, sanctuary cities and states, the maryland house of delegates voted overwhelmingly to turn maryland into a sanctuary statend despite the governor's veto threat. the vote happened in the rape case for two students accused of

attacking a 14-year-old girl in their high school bathroom. marilyn republicans governor condemn the county where rockville is located. >> montgomery county is acting as a sanctuary county, and they are not cooperating with federal authorities. that is a big part of the problem. >> eric: joining us now with reaction, steve cortes, and from baltimore, keith haynes, a democratic member of the maryland house of democrats who cosponsored this sanctuary bill. just days after this atrocious, atrocious rape case, you voted to turn maryland into a sanctuary state. why? >> well, let me first of all say that the state of maryland has been progressive when it comes to issues of immigration in this area. and what we thought to do was to put forward this legislation

called the trust act to basically restore community trust, trust between the community and law enforcement as we see things happening on the federal level. >> eric: but this case, this rape case, just days prior comes up, when you're debating whether or not this is a good idea? >> let me just emphasize thats this was an issue that did come up. but when you look at the incident that happened in montgomery county, which is a horrific situation, by all means. we know that. but there really isn't an immigration component, when you look at the allegations that took place. >> eric: come on. sir, what demand is not anom immigration component? these two were illegal, illegals in york county who allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl. i've got to bring steve in.ll it's the definition of what we are worried about. >> but let me explain what i

mean. let me explain what i mean w by that. under state law as it is now in the state of maryland, a local law enforcement police agency could not detain these individuals. they had no record. they had no affiliation with any gangs. so they could not have a federal -- >> eric: i've got to bring steve in. my mind is blowing on this right now. this is the reason why sanctuary cities are not popular, are dangerous. >> also one of the reasons why donald trump won. this kind of cognitive distance. as a hispanic allows illegal as a hispanic who loves legal immigration and the father of teen girls, this story horrifies me. he was caught, sanchez was caught, at the border. that should have been the end of the story. you are illegal, returned to sender.

instead, he iser released. and then maryland authorities decide to put a grown man, an 18 year old, in a class with a freshman girl, a child who, sadly, eric may never really be a child again because of the way she was traumatized by these two illegals who should have never been here in the very first place. >> eric: delegate haynes, i'm going to let you answer that. >> absolutely true. these two individuals were undocumented, when they were here, yes, but under federal law, these individualsdo cannot because of their age, were released to the department of health and human services. and in turn, given -- >> eric: quickly. >> let me finish. let me finish. maryland, state law, an enforcement agency, the police constitutionally cannot detain

these two individuals. >> eric: but this is the problem. these are things that fall through the cracks and people get hurt and young girls get raped. >> eric, you know, what happensk is, liberal elites love to talk in theory about what they see as social justice, what's popular at universities. the reality is, on the streets, policemen, victims, have to live with the carnage of these policies. by the way, in many cases, the victims are hispanics themselves. what just happened in los angeles, where a five-times deported man killed a young, beautiful sandra durand come up mother in the united states. donald trump ran and won largely on the notion that we are going to take our country back from the elites and the skin to make kind of misbegotten policies. >> eric: gentlemen, i have to leave it right there. a hot debate. thank you very much. a reminder, bill's book "old school: life in the sanee lane" will be out on tuesday, but you

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editor-in-chief of "the hill" newspaper, along with erin mcpike, correspondent for the "independent journal review." had a big week yourself, going with them, is that the biggest story, or do you think this health care thing overshadows it. >> i do think the health care thing overshadowed it. that's obviously the biggest story of the year so far. this is something that republicans have been working on for years and they failed. they failed w miserably. whoo knows where the party goes from here. that has to be considered the biggest story of the week. i think taylor sent was a huge storyst in washington because ai reported, he said he didn't want the job, his wife basically told him to, which i think says something about this administration, that these some of these people felt like they had to. >> eric: your biggest story of the year? >> definitely health care. the speaker, paul ryan, guaranteed to pull a joe namath and said this would pass.

it did not, he faced the music in a press conference, but this was really a disaster for the g.o.p. they said that they would get it done. president trump got on board, this is a devastating defeat for republicans, honestly gleeful that they couldn't get this done. maybe they will revisit it. >> eric: you've been around for a very long time, have youou ever seen anything so emphatically sure it's going to pass, and were going to bring this, going to get this done, and have it failed so miserably? >> they weren't close. i know they said they weren't close, but we were counting, and they were double digits, at least 12 down. probably 20 down. if they were close, they would bringro it to the floor and created both to the floor. this is something that's going to be looked back, a history as a big,, big defeat. in politics, you can always come back. >> eric: erin, score the media on this. there were a lot of media outlets saying, this is going to work, your thoughts and how the

media handled it? >> that is a great question. i think there was such a belief, because they weren't sure for months that this is what they were going to do. this is what they had been campaigning on. republicans won in the midterms, gained seats in 2012 in the house, gained seats againhe in 2014. at the end of the day, the public decided over the last couple of months, hey, a majority actuallynd likes obamacare. so how the media coverage, i think the media coverage, as the republicans were saying, look, we're going to pass this, then they didn't. i think they did a fine job. >> eric: bob, there is a very high-profile news person, journalist, who i saw, and she said, what you think? i said, i don't think it's going to pass, and she said, well, they said that about trump too. i said, oh, no, this is far different than the general election. >> republican leaders in the house, they thought these guys,, the freedom caucus, as well as

some centrists, were just going to roll over on the house floor. but when you're takings, current benefits away, that is very difficult to do, eric. and they were fearing for their jobs, so that's why they were going to vote no and that's why they didn't even bring it to the floor. >> eric: you know what, you guys are so good, we're going to ask you to stay with us. when we return, we'll have a preview of what is going to be the next big, monumental week ahead with those two people. coming right up. business,

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reform. treasury secretary says he wants to get tax reform by the end of august. i think they can cut taxes by august,, but reforming the tax code hasn't been done since 1986, and there is a reason. it's very difficult. republicans have to pivot. that's "the big story." >> eric: erin, have you to give president trump credit he went from a reallynt big thig in health care to another big thing in massive tax reform. >> tax reform is still going to be difficult. the challenge he might have is instead trying to fight infrastructure which mitch mcconnell is not particularly enthused about. but the administration is and so is the public, so that would actually be a pretty good win they could try to go for. i actually think the biggest story of next week would be what happens with the house and senate intelligence committees. >> eric: me, too. 100 percent. >> and for a couple reasons. look, you have got, as bob knows well a number of congressional reporters right now not chasing the healthcare vote anymore. they are looking for something to do. adam schiff and dianne feinstein have a lot to say. a lot of people right nowow mad at devin nunes for going

to donald trump and giving him more information.. every time something like that happens, there are some sources at the fbi that cnn has that get mad and they go leak something new to cnn t and the story -- there is another shoe to drop. i think we will see a lot to come out there. >> eric: bob, for the first time in a long time both sides, we heard, have a smoking gun. what happens when both sides have a smoking gun? >> eric, there is so much we don't know. we will eventually find out. they are probably going to be some bombshells. yeah, atba any moment i think the intel story canbe be the big story of the month and maybe the year. >> eric: yeah, okay. erin, your thoughts on both? we talked about adam schiff saying he has direct evidence, not circumstantial evidence, direct evidence and then devin nunes says heir knows. he has been told who is leaking some of these names. unmasking, i'm sorry. unmasking some of these names. >> who sun masking them? i don't know. i mean, if i knew. i would be reporting -- >> eric: no, i'm saying devin nunes has been told.

he has seen these names inn documents. >> i'm not clear what you are asking. >> eric: i'm saying, we have both sides claiming that they have the other side on the hook for something maybe illegal. >> maybe, too. i hope we get some of this information out next week. he obviously has said he is going to make one of theseut hearings scheduled for tuesday now is private. they are kicking some back. look, it just clear that the story is going to go on. who knows. obviously, adam schiff andnd dianne feinstein have some kind of ax to grind because they keep on giving out drops of information. >> eric: all right. okay. all right. you know, guys, it's been a great, great big week. i'm expecting another great big week next week as well. erin and bob, we will sayng thank you to both of you. before we go tonight, guess what?ob now is a perfect time to preorder my new book "the swamp." all the details are at eric bolling.com. it's going to be huge. thank you for watching the

special edition of the "special factor" in the potomac. please remember, the spin stops right here. because we are looking out for you. have a a great weekend. ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening to tucker carlson tonight. more high profile crimes apparently committed by illegal immigrants in this ricountry. tonight, we will bring you a horrifying story of a gang member deported four timesll accused of sexually assaulting a child and stabbing two women. also, the political aftermath from the failure of the republican's obamacare appear. that happened today, as you've no doubt know.w. but first, the question of whether the obama administration spied on the trump campaign remains unanswered. two days ago, house until jade avenue said there was strong -- now he says he's unsure, partly because the fbi is not