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>> it's good to have you back today. listen, your bracket lives. maybe you should go on vacation. my bracket -- >> i'll take you up on that. bye-bye. >> the political fall-out from the failure to repeal and replace obamacare as the president turns to tax reform. >> hi, jenna. >> i'm eric in for jon scott. as the president participates in a roundtable with women business owners at this hour. he's set for a new advisor, jared kushner, tapping him to bring business efficiency to the federal government. this as fox news learns that
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kushner may speak with the intelligence senate committee about possible ties to trump campaign officials. john roberts is live at the white house with the very latest on this developing story. hi, john. >> eric, good morning. the white house hoped this was going to be a start to a new week. they're trying to figure out a way forward if there is one on healthcare reform and tax reform. the president has said that he wanted to do healthcare reform first because they would free up money that he could apply to tax cuts. the president warned republicans that if healthcare didn't pass, they would move on to tax cuts. now the white how is suggesting that may may try a gone on healthcare using the john boehner tactic of trying to recruit democrats to get around conservatives. listen to what the chief of staff said on fox news sunday yesterday. >> this president is not going to be a partisan president.
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this is a president that wants to provide -- you're right. he wants to make sure that people don't get left behind. he wants to make sure there's competition so rates are lower and people can choose their doctor. so if those three things are incompatible with some members of the republican house, then it's going to be incompatible and we need to work with moderate democrats. >> the white house has tried to change the subject today announcing that potus' son-in-law, jared kushner, will head up the new white house office of american innovation. his job will be to apply business strategies to federal government to streamline the bureaucracy. the president signed an order to identify efficiencies, ineffective programs across the federal government. kushner will be in charge of making the changes that arise out of that executive order. he will be heading to the hill to talk to the senate intelligence committee as part
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of the russia investigation. he had a meeting with sergey kislyak. it's unclear whether it was the intelligence committee that asked for him to come up or if he's volunteering. the white house said throughout the campaign and in transition, jared served as the primary point of contact with foreign governments and officials. he volunteered to speak to the committee but has not received confirmation. the president will also seek to undo some obama era regulations. he will be signing a number of bills and the bills will regard labor laws, bureau of land management regulations and some education requirements. he's also expected to sign executive orders later on this week that deal with energy, and this could be opening up federal lands to coal development as well as trade and environment
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potentially rolling back president obama's regulations on clean power development. so even though they're still trying to regroup after what happened friday, they're planning a busy week ahead, eric, to try to get ahead of this and get back on a positive footing. >> thanks, john. jenna? >> michael bloomberg weighing in writing this -- joining us now, betsy from the daily beast and christopher from the daily collar. that sounds good. how do we make that happen? >> it could be tough. even though trump himself might be interested in working with democrats on capitol hill, the first person that has to start breaking bread with hill
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democrats is paul ryan. you can ask john boehner how things go when leaders of the house republican conference decide to jettison conservative members and reach out to democrats. it's politically fraught territory and tough to do. a big part of the reason that boehner lost his speaker ship is he brought bills to the floor that could only pass with democratic support. if trump wants to push for some sort of big healthcare overhaul down the road, trump only need to make sure that paul ryan is on board with it and that he doesn't see working with democrats rather than conservatives as something that could jeopardize his speakership. running stories suggesting that mark meadows could be eyeing the speakership. that's what makes the speaker's officer in nervous and make bipartisanship tougher to get done. >> if we look for the good of the country, chris, is
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bipartisanship what is good for the country when it comes to healthcare? >> bipartisanship, as far as fixing obamacare before it collapses as it looks like it's likely to do. the prop here is trump is not very idealogical. i believe absolutely that he would happily work with democrats to pass any bill to get his agenda through. the problem is democrats are in a bind here. their base thinks that trump is l hitler, he's horrible. they're demanding that blood be drawn. i don't think they will allow this to happen. last weekend, we saw the congressional black caucus taking flak for speaking with the president. i don't think they're going to be holding hands and doing any cumbaya on anything. >> we'll wait patiently for the cumbaya. in the meantime, interesting sound from a familiar face, a familiar voice on all of this.
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i'm sure our viewers will recognize him. i want to play this sound and we'll talk about it in just a moment. >> obamacare has serious problems. deductible are too high. the cost of healthcare is going up in a much faster rate than it should. ideally what -- where we should be going is to join the rest of the industrialized world and guarantee healthcare to all people as a right. that's why i'm going to introduce a medical for all sinker player program. >> he sounded like a republican until he listed single payer. but he listed everything else the republicans have. >> exactly. it's interesting how much of an overlap is because populous hill democrats. steve bannon is sympathetic to the concerns, not the solutions, concerns that senator sanders has about the obamacare legislation and the way that's going. even in his own party, democrats
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are also really deeply divided and sanders, of course, doesn't have as much clout on capitol hill as he would like to. one of the challenges for bringing together a bipartisan coalition is both parties are so fractured that figuring out who among the democrats would be willing to come to the table. what kind of solutions they could work for will be challenging. the idea of medicare for all sinker payer is a nonstarter for hill republicans. it's a nonstart or for the white house. even though they can identify the same problems, working together to find policy changes that most of capitol hill can agree on is just going to be incredibly difficult. >> and now back to us, the american people, that are impacted by the healthcare law. there's a lot of drama over what happened politically with this particular solution. for your average american, whether or not you're getting healthcare for your company or buying it on the open market, your locked into a plan the next year, right? >> until open enrollment begins again. >> is there that much at stake
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over the last 72 hours, that means that the american public is not going to see a change when it comes to healthcare looking ahead? meaning, could it be a win-win for republicans and democrats? if they figure out a way to work together sometime over the next year, so we see a change in healthcare somewhere down the line? obviously we're not going to see it for the plans we're locked to. >> they use metaphors like momentum when they think about politics that they think they're held by physics. the idea that donald trump after he's done some tax reform and put a win on his docket can't get mark meadows and paul ryan in the room. it will be difficult. get them in a room and say what can we do to get this through? it's possible. if they don't figure out something to do with obamacare to help americans having trouble, people that only have
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one insurer in their state, if they don't figure out something before the next election, they'll lose seats. >> democrats and republicans. open enrollment starts before voting day. that's interesting for politicians to struggle. that's two years away at this point. christopher, betsy, great to have you both. >> thank you. >> sure thing. >> we have new information this morning about our forces -- the military forces to be deployed to the middle east. fox news has learned that 200 troops will be sent to iraq to push against isis. lucas thomas is live at the pentagon with more details. lucas, who will be deployed and when? >> eric, u.s. defense officials say it will be two companies from the 82nd airborne division from fort bragg, north carolina. some 200 paratroopers that will be deploying to the isis fight in mosul.
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iraqi forces have been engaged in fierce street-to-street fighting. >> they will try. we need the efforts of others to flush them out. >> in another sign the pentagon is ramping up efforts against isis, jets from the george w. bush began striking in iraq friday. for the first time, the u.s. military acknowledged over the weekend, a coalition air strike bombed the same place where 100 civilians were killed. the u.s.-led coalition said iraqi forces requested the air strike. the pentagon has long said that isis uses human shields to protect against air strikes. senator tom cotton weighed in.
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>> very sad development. the department of defense is investigating. i don't believe this is a result of loosening of rules of engagement. rather the facts on the ground. >> eric, despite more pressure being put on isis as the air strikes ramp up, the military says they stride for zero civilian casualties in strikes. >> thanks very much. >> severe thunderstorms hitting the plains and it's not over yesterday. where this storm system is heading now. as president trump moves ahead to build a wall, why the administration could face big legal battles in texas. energy is amazing. how we use it is only limited by our imagination. and at southern company
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some parts of oklahoma, a storm system moving in with strong winds and tornadoes there. that system is pushing east threatening to bring severe weather later on today to kentucky, northern mississippi and tennessee. so you next be careful. >> jenna: worth keeping an eye on that. the trump administration moving forward with plans for a border wall. but in large areas along the mexican border with southern texas, much of the land is privately owned. legal experts warn if the federal government exercises imminent domain here, it could set the stage for some protected legal battles. casey stegall joins us with more. casey? >> yeah, jenna. building a wall between mexico and the u.s. may be much easier to do in other states like california, arizona and new mexico, for example. because the experts say in those spots the terrain is much more open. they can put in that kind of infrastructure. it's also because a large
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portion of the land in those states is already owned by the feds. but here in texas, however, it is a totally different story. in most places, first of all, the rio grande river served as the international border. so that requires building around floodplains, which gets tricky. not to mention, 98% of the property is privately owned in this state. in many cases, it's been in families for generations. nobody seems to happy about letting it go. top imminent domain lawyers tell us that means the feds likely have long court battles ahead. >> in terms of the enormity of the project, we're talking hundreds of miles of privately owned land that would have to be condemned. president trump suggested this will happen in the next 180 days, i can certainly say as someone that practices in this area, the legal proceedings will be lengthier. >> some residents have already received letters like this one.
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it appears they're starting with folks that held out in 2006, the last time portions of a fence went up under president george w. bush with the security fence act. one property owner says they don't feel the government offer is high enough for how much land they want. >> i don't think it's fair. we have 58 grand children and great grandchildren. we'll be getting about $50 per cousin. what are you going to do with $50? >> texas imminent domain lawyers say their phone is ringing off the hook. clients securing counsel as hey hunker down for a fight. >> jenna: thank you. >> eric: a frantic man hunt underway for 14 inmates. they used an underground tunnel to escape from prison. how long they have been able to
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>> jenna: right now 14 inmates in mexico are still on the run today five days after some two dozen inmates broke out of prison. the others are behind bars. mexican authorities say they escaped through an elaborate tunnel. most of the escaped prisoners were in jail for federal crimes like drug trafficking and weapons charges. >> well, fake news. we heard that term so many times during the campaign, it's a household term. it describes stories that are inaccurate or fabricated or made
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up. last night, the granddaddy of real news television magazines "60 minutes" aired its investigation on fake news and the impact on the presidential election. >> did the environment in this world change during the presidential election? >> it did. sure. a lot more players joined the game. >> fake news flooded social media during the presidential campaign. this story said donald trump was caught snorting cocaine in a hotel. another said, after colonoscopy reveals brain tumor, donald trump drops from race. >> part of political campaigning these days involves a widespread strategy and public opinion over social media. twitter and facebook are part of that. >> phil howard leads the internet institute at the university of oxford, which examines misinformation on social they have analyzed web traffic in the days before the election in the swing state of michigan.
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>> how much of this news on twitter in michigan was, as you call it, junk news and how much of it legit? >> in the case of michigan, we found the proportions were equal. the junk news, the stories that were not fact checked and came from organizations that were not professional journalism was about as much as the amount of content coming from the professional news organizations. >> there was as much fake news as there was actual news? >> there was. >> eric: that is unbelievable. judy miller joins us, author and fox news contributor. james freeman from the wall street journal. judy, let's start with you. the fake news looks so real. the graphics are designed well. like you're reading something that is part of an editorial process and legitimate. >> that's the danger of it. your eye gravitates to it. it's sensational.
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we're flooded with information. so you automatically click on it. if you read through it, halfway through it, you may not know until -- especially if you're busy or tired or if you're stressed out. you may not know what you're reading is fabricated. i think that is such a problem today as "60 minutes" has done a huge public service by pointing out. >> eric: james, the story are unbelievable. the pedophile hillary clinton sex ring that caused a potential tragedy. the shooter down there. can this be stopped, how do people determine what is fake and not real and what is legitimate? >> well, it's hard to stop fake news if you're going to have an open, free society like we have. this is not really new. if you go back, the founders were driven crazy by what others would write about them. but they decided the anecdote is
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a free open market and checks on -- in government on people being led astray by facts. but look, i think -- you talk about how a lot of this, the fake news people are taking market share away from professionals. it's because the professionals have failed and pedalled fake news themselves. a lot of us in the media industry thought donald trump was not a serious candidate, ruled him out. that turned out to be fake news. >> eric: what do you mean about that? it's wrong? >> that's the problem, jim. fake news is not news with which you disagree. fake news is fabricated news invented out of whole cloth. deleting all of the qualifiers about what we know and don't know. fake news has real consequences. i agree the marked place tends to be the cure, but when you have half of all stories on social media being fake, that's an epidemic.
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that's a real problem. >> i'd say cbs and "60 minutes" have not above fake news. you broadcasted from the bush library. we talked about their military record. it was wrong there. big embarrassment. >> eric: what if it wasn't editorially vetted? there was a failure there. that's the difference between fake news and professionals. you're supposed to have a rigorous editorial standard. jimmy breslin said if it's true, put it in the paper. let society sort it out. make sure it's basically true or the allegations have some merit. >> certainly you hope that's how everyone operates. a lot of voters feel like the professional media has acted often with bias and not in a good faith effort to search for the facts. so i think part of this is a failure on the part of what you
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might call the professional or legit commit media to do their i don't know. >> eric: judy, there's a sense of that happening. >> real news organizations have a policy. if we make a mistake, we corrected it. that's the difference between a fake news site and a real news site. when you have a vice president, almost all of whose claims have to be fact checked by major news organizations, you have a problem. a president who defines fake news with news he agrees is a problem. >> eric: so what do viewers do? >> the solution is not to set up certain people of ash -- arbiters. i think it's -- you know, may be a wake-up call for professional media to do their job better.
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but look, you're hauls going to have this. you always have. as long as we've had a republic, you'll have fake news out there -- >> but not in this amount. not in this amount. we've never seen an explosion like this. >> eric: that may be true. but 1800, thomas jefferson, john adams, they wrote that jefferson was dead. that was before the internet. that was fake news. >> as they say in journalism, if your mother says they love you, check it out. >> eric: thank you. jenna? >> obamacare is the law of the land after that failed gop effort to repeal and replace it. president trump is warning about the future of the program. and new evidence for a missing tennessee teen. police believe her former teacher kidnapped her. let's take a look at some numbers:
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>> jenna: obamacare is surviving the republican repeal effort. president trump is warning about the future of the program that is facing sky rocket ing premiums and deductibles. >> obamacare will explode. it's going to have a very bad year. last year you had over 100% increases in various places. >> jenna: turning to us right now, from the cato institute and larry levitz from the kaiser family foundation. two great experts on this topic.
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great to have you here. we heard this term implode, explode, you two disagree. i want to start there. michael, why do you believe that is the case with obamacare, that the case is exploding? >> insurers have been leaving the market in droves. there's 1,000 counties across the country where there's one insurer in the exchange. in east tennessee, they're already facing that situation. 43,000 residents in east tennessee that have no exchange options after december because the last carrier has left. these are people with expensive medical conditions including people that had coverage before obamacare and now will be left with nothing. so congress can't just sit back and do nothing. they have to do something because of the damage the law causes. >> jenna: larry, that's
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convincing. what do you think? >> i do disagree. the market is not imploding, collapsing. there's some markets around the country -- michael talked about tennessee. it's true. most of the country at the congressional budget office said, the insurance companies are stable. some insurers have dropped out of the market. this is a private market. >> jenna: how would you define stable? how do we know what anything cost? what is stable for viewers? >> health insurance is expensive. no doubt about that. people are often shocked when they have to buy insurance on their own and how much it costs. if you look at the premiums in these aca marketplaces around the country, they're very comparable to what employers pay for health insurance. and there's some insurers, many insurers that are increasingly making money on this market. some just couldn't compete and
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they have dropped out. as michael said. insurers generally miscalculated initially about how many sick people would sign up and how many healthy people would sign up to balance them out. they had to raise premiums this last year to make up for that. >> jenna: that's a familiar argument that we hear. healthcare is just expensive. there's no way around it. maybe we just have to face that reality. yes, premiums are going up. the price of a lot of things is going up. how is healthcare different? >> we can get around it. when you make consumers cost conscious, they drove down prices, this is to blaze to say that obamacare has destroyed the market in a few places. don't worry about it. this law was supposed to provide security access to care for people. what researchers have at harvard have found, where markets haven't collapsed yet, coverage is worse and less stable than
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employer plans. so this whole attitude that move along, nothing to see here is -- >> jenna: an interesting point. let's ask larry about it. if it's happening in tennessee, larry, that means it could happen anywhere else, right? one has to wonder, if it was happening in areas like washington d.c. or the state of new york where the media is based, if there would be a little bit of a different urgency around this. but because it's happening in a few key areas in the country, that maybe we think not too bad. >> look, it's unacceptable if people in tennessee have no access to health insurance if they don't get it through an player. if it's happening anywhere, it's a problem that has to be addressed. that's the choice facing the trump administration. will they take steps to undermine the law and facilitate a collapse in more parts of the country or use their administrative authority to maybe improve the law and move it in a -- >> jenna: i want to point out to our viewers, while you don't
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think it's accurate to say that healthcare is imploding, exploding, et cetera, you think there's ways to improve it. what is one key way that you can see improving the industry for americans? >> the trump administration took some steps. they issued a regulation a few weeks ago to promote stability in the market. it's a step in the right direction. there's a been cite in congress about whether to eliminate federal requirements for the kind of benefits insurers have to provide. the administration can't just repeal those requirements but offer more flexibility and make the market more attractive. >> what do you think about that, michael? would you get on board with that? >> the obama administration did repeal regulations unilaterally. i'm glad larry thinks that the trump administration can't. but if the trump administration is to -- their first job is to enforce the law and abide by the law. interestingly in the trump administration does that, they
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can force congress back to the negotiation table. they have a court order saying to stop issuing the cost sharing subsidies, the nonpartisan government accountability office says money was deverted from the treasury. the trump administration can ask for the money back. if the trump administration eliminates congress' illegal obamacare bailout, that will force congress back to the negotiating table. and then maybe we can get some reforms to provide stable coverage to people. >> jenna: an interesting reminder that congress doesn't live in the same healthcare that most americans do. there's a question about that, about why that is the case. just a quick final question to both of you. our viewers are really curious about premiums and pricing. it is a market where you don't
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know what anything cost. like what it cost to go to the doctor for a cold or a flu or a broken arm versus a broken leg. will that ever be fixed by anything? michael, you first and then larry. >> there's a series of experiments that employers have done that shows when consumers are spending their own money, they demand price information and prices fall. that's the way that congress needs to repeal and replace obamacare by giving consumers control of the money, the money that their employers spend on their benefit so they can buy affordable health insurance and you have the cost consciousness that drives prices down and makes health care more affordable. >> jenna: your thoughts? >> there's something that mike and i agree with. there should be greater transparency. you should choose less expensive doctors. what we disagree, putting more financial risk on consumers. i don'ts think what consumers are looking for are higher
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co-pays and deductibles. >> since like the doctors know, but who is the authority on that? we'll have to leave that for another time. a good debate. thanks very much for being here. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> eric: kim jong-un is about to do it again. satellite images show that north korea is on the verge of another nuclear test that would be number 6. so how will the west respond to another provocative move by that dictator?
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>> eric: good morning. the president is meeting at a roundtable with small business owners. one of them is ivanka trump, his daughter. it's a panel of various women business owners. the effort is to try to empower women business owners. a way to try to deal with small business. part of the president's upcoming empowerment and stimulus plan to help small businesses around the
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country, especially since the stock market slid a tiny bit after the failure of the healthcare on friday. wall street doing better right now. the president hoping to get tax cuts later on this year, especially to help women business owners. >> jenna: now turning to another big story. reports that is suggesting that north korea is preparing for another nuclear test. let's talk about this with gordon chang. there's this story about another side story, gordon, that i think very few of our viewers have heard about. i want to spend time of that. it's first about the potential nuclear test. how do we know that we should be expecting a nuclear test from north korea? what are the signs? >> the signs are from satellites. we monitor their nuclear testing sites and we have seen that they have finished digging the tunnel and a lot of activity has ceased at the site. in the past, that was a signal
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that they were going to detonate some time after that. so clearly right now they've done all the technical stuff. they will set this thing off when it has maximum political effect both internally and externally for north korea. >> jenna: so when can we expect it? >> my guess -- people are saying the end of the month. my guess is when. trump meets with his chinese counter part april 6 and 7. that would be perfect for china. every time north korea does something like this, two things happen. first of all, we get distracted from issues that are important to us with regard to china like south china see cyber attacks, all of the rest of it. and then we ask china for their cooperation. china believes that north korea endlessly creates bargaining chips for itself with regard to the united states. >> jenna: very interesting. we're watching the video that we have, the limited video that we have out of north korea
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regarding different tests. gordon, you have something for our viewers that they haven't heard about yesterday. i'll loosely explain it as a bank heist. it involves north korea and china and a big bank here in the united states. tell us why this is significant and what is going on. >> north korea is thought to be behind cyber attacks of the new york of bangladesh. they stole $81 million. this is important. it's not really important because it's bangladesh. it is important. this came out of the fed. at the heart of the global financial system. so what the north koreans did, they cast into doubt the world's financial architecture. they had help, probably chinese middlemen and banks which means that beijing properly knew about
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it. we have to ask questions about what china is doing with our financial system. >> jenna: it's scary. so a cyber attack north koreans facilitated with the aid of china that allowed them to get into basically our financial system, which is the foundation, by the way, for the global financial system and steal money from another country? >> this gets worse. the hackers that took the $81 million used the same code as the attacks on sony pictures entertainment in 2014, which was north korea. also when these hackers entered the fed, they led clues where they were going next. more than 100 organizations. money center banks, u.s. companies. so essentially they were going to take this $81 million heist and just replicate it across the world. >> jenna: do you expect that? >> now i hope we have built defenses. nonetheless, the north koreans evolve in their tactics.
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they've gotten very good since 2014. we can expect them to try this again. they need money. >> jenna: sounds like the president should be talking about to china. >> absolutely. chinese involvement in north korea's cyber attacks has a long history, including those sony attacks. the sony attacks are believed to have been launched inside chinese soil, which means that beijing knew about it. those attacks had to go through the great fire wall, the most sophisticated set of internet controlleds. when north korea got through the data, beijing knew what was going on. >> jenna: i don't want to connect things that need to be connected but it takes money to build a nuclear program. they have questions where they get the money. >> they get it because they sell coal and minerals to china and they sell nuclear materials and missiles to iran. somewhere between 2.5 to $3 billion a year iran pays north korea. >> thanks. pay attention to the story as it
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develops. thank you. >> thanks, jenna. >> eric: now a 22-year-old oklahoma police officer has died this morning after he was involved in a shootout yesterday with a man that fled a traffic stop in oklahoma. this is justin tyranny. he died this morning after undergoing surgery. the suspect that was also shot is in intensive care. the suspect was stopped south of oklahoma city. while checking on a warrant, they scuffled. authorities say they have not confirmed the i.d. of the suspect as of now. again, the nation mourns the loss of another brave member of law enforcement. we will be right back. to put unwelcome lawn weeds to rest. so draw the line. roundup for lawns is formulated to kill lawn weeds to the root without harming a single blade of grass.
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>> eric: what's coming up on "outnumbered"? >> president trump seems to be turning his attention to the failure of the gop healthcare bill. >> and joe biden says he regrets not running for president because he thinks he could have won. would he have been a better candidate than hillary clinton? i think yes. >> all right. we're done. >> and one lucky guy gives his verdict on all of it. judge alex is outnumbered at the tom of the hour. >> eric: new information for you now on the nomination of judge neil gorsuch to the supreme court. with the committee set to meet moments from now, democrats are expected to ask for a week delay. gregg jarrett, attorney with
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what will happen next. all right. >> so a week from today the judiciary committee will vote gorsuch out of committee. he will be approved. it goes to the full senate next week. democrats may try to filibuster. there's a bunch of democrats getting pressure in red and purple states up for re-election to vote for gorsuch. they may flip and favor him for political expediency. if they do filibuster, republicans get rid of the filibuster. it's called the nuclear option. if democrats don't like it, they have harry reid to blame for it, a simple majority may confirm gorsuch. >> eric: they think ten democrats could flip. >> absolutely. ads are being run trying to influence the democrats. >> eric: meanwhile, the democrats as you mentioned think that he's scalia jr.
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what about his conservative -- >> it's a mistake to think he's a clone of antonin scalia. couple reasons. we heard him say that the right to an abortion is the law of the land under roe versus wade. it's a strong precedent. that belies the promise of donald trump during the campaign that his nominee would reverse roe versus wade. and two uva professors analyzed him and said, you know what? he's actually among the most liberal of republican appointees. on issues like immigration and employment discrimination, he's surprisingly moderate. look, he could be like a blackman or a warren or suitor or stephens and be a liberal and
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>> jenna: we'll see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." ever harris faulkner. sandra smith, mccain and kennedy herself. and we welcome back judge alex. you know him well. he's outnumbered. good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> glad you're here. >> good to have you here. >> next time, bring the sunshine. >> i can't believe you have lousy weather. >> shall we get to the news? >> absolutely. >> we begin with president trump spreading the blame for the collapse of the gop's replacement of

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