>> jenna: we'll see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." ever harris faulkner. sandra smith, mccain and kennedy herself. and we welcome back judge alex. you know him well. he's outnumbered. good to have you here. >> great to be here. >> glad you're here. >> good to have you here. >> next time, bring the sunshine. >> i can't believe you have lousy weather. >> shall we get to the news? >> absolutely. >> we begin with president trump spreading the blame for the collapse of the gop's replacement of obamacare. the president is criticizing

conservative lawmakers and think tanks. his tweets are such. shock waves reverberating throughout washington. one member of the freedom caucus, ted poe, resigned from the group this weekend. he said the time has come for the caucus to stop saying no all the time. here he is. >> sometimes you're going to have to say yes. so i was not going to vote no because obamacare is now the law of the land. it's a disaster. so i think it was unfortunate that even though changes and we were included, the freedom caucus decided that no was going to be the answer. i think at some time we're going to have to say yes. we're in power. we need to lead. >> a key member of the house freedom caucus, jim jordan of ohio, says his group did the

nation a favor. >> i think we saved the american people from a bad bill. if anybody should be cheering, it should be the american people. only 17% approved of this legislation. let's get back to work and repeal this law. >> judge, your take. >> i think they better do something about this law. the idea of passing on it and going on to other projects is not going to sit very well. a lot of the money they were expecting for tax reform was based on the fact that they would pass this legislation. so they're going to end up with a weak tax reform, if they do that. come two years from now, they'll lose the senate. the american people got fed up when they said we don't have the senate. everything we do in the house gets killed by reid in the senate. voters gave them the senate. then they said we don't have the president. so now they have the house, the senate and the presidency. if they don't make hay, they're

done. >> so maybe it's time for self-critiquing as mark meadows the chairman of the freedom caucus put it. he insisted this is not over. he said he regretted he didn't spend more time with moderate republicans and democrats to find some consensus. >> it was moderate republicans and the conservatives that have the biggest issue with the legislation. the freedom caucus found consensus with the tuesday group, which is the group of moderate republicans who also had pledged to not vote for the bill. maybe in the end, it was a really bad piece of legislation. maybe they should go back to the primary source, instead of this continued infighting within the party, maybe look at the bill. the fact that they had seven years to craft something, that wasn't a series of amendments and rewrites to obamacare. >> judge, to go back to what you said. just on the three pillars that the president wanted to get

done. obamacare, the budget tax reform, the last two depended on the money coming from the first because it's dependent on the irs, which is another government agency. mick mulvaney had this to say about what is really going on inside the republican party. let's watch. >> you can blame it on the freedom caucus if you want to, but there's moderates, charlie dent, who were also against the bill. it's the powers that be in washington that won. if there's anything disappointing and an educational process to the trump administration is that this place was more rotten than we thought. >> megan? >> i've been salty and embarrassed all weekend. i went to a party and the only thing that people talk about. there's plenty of blame. i'm mad at paul ryan. i'm mad we didn't get it done. it's is a signature bill and signature promise.

the house and the senate have said, i'm sorry, arizonians at 125% premiums, you're screwed and you have to deal with it because washington can't get its act together. you know how embarrassing this is for republicans? the freedom caucus, their hands aren't clean either. president trump is going after them. i thought paul ryan's head would roll. he's going after the freedom caucus. i want to leave with this. i've been angry about this. ronald reagan said 80%, as long as you agree with 80%, that's good enough. we have to get to a place we're compromising and negotiating. apparently the art of the deal isn't as good -- >> i agree. you're talking about legislators that are sticking with their ideas. so many -- >> nothing is ever good enough for the freedom caucus. >> let me finish. the problem here is the republicans are masquerading as big government democrats. that's the problem. we're spending too much money and too many areas and they're not tackling --

>> does mulvaney have a point about how rotten it is to the core in washington d.c.? if you're a big businessman and you're trying to get -- which our president is, and you're trying to get a deal through time kills all deals. so i understand actually the rush to push this through. when you know you have so many people that might be acting on that rotten at the core. does mulvaney hit on something? >> i kind of find it amusing that he said washington was more rotten than we thought it was. we all thought it was rotten. it could actually get more rotten. so trump may find out that it's impossible to train the swamp from the inside. >> so how do you do it? >> from the outside. the only way to do it is voters voting people out. it's got to come to the point -- >> there's so in -- >> senators are up every three years. a third of the senate is up every three years. we'll get to the point that voters get so fed up, it doesn't matter what happens, the same result, they'll start voting

people out. it's going to send a message -- >> people don't like the blame game that they see in the aftermath. you first saw the president blaming democrats. monday morning, he's blaming conservatives. people have -- eric ericson is the pundit that tweeted out, have we elected a president? >> everyone deserves blame. moderates are to blame, paul ryan is to blame. president trump does. the freedom caucus does. there's equal blame. >> what would you blame the. for? >> the buck stops with president trump. there was concern from the freedom caucus and from moderates both for different things. i do think we could have compromised and found a middle ground or god i hope so. this is a cornerstone promise to the american people that has not only be completely blown but the messaging is that president trip

said we're going to let this explode and washington -- >> kennedy, i want to ask you about this. paul ryan said at the news conference friday and i thought it was pretty poignant what he was saying. he said, we were a ten-year opposition party. we're being against things was easy to do. you just had to being a it. >> jenna: now in three months time, we try to go to governing party where we actually get 216 people to agree with each other and how we do things and we weren't there. hard to do big things. >> and they don't have their legs underneath them yet as a unified party. people think that's bad news and speaks to the rottenists in washington. the democrats -- i want to focus on them. they act in lock step like a bunch of mindless big government, big spendingso spendingsospendingsome --

zombies. they're celebrating the status quo that obamacare is staying. obamacare is in the middle of a death spiral. more people will lose coverage. insurance company will pull out in a desperate last gasp. that means that people will have to pay more money for worse care. it hurts everyone. there's nothing to celebrate here. >> make you wonder how key democrats like chuck schumer are going to respond to this and take advantage of this now situation. he says he's up for finding common ground with the president, warning that trump is destined to lose again were his words. he said "if he changes he could have a different presidency." >> if that were true, i would applaud it. we've gone from the points that are doing things for the american people to doing things that are good for our party. i would love to see them work togeth together. the problem is i don't believe

it. the only thing he will accept is the democratic plan. trump, do our bidding. >> but we have the power and we blew it. if we can't get things done with this power, very little faith going forward. >> and the former president's name is on the affordable care act, obamacare. until that changes, the democrats do own a huge share of what happens to this. it will be interested to see if chuck schumer can come up with some infrastructure project that he likes that maybe he can -- i don't know. wheeling and dealing to get them to come together on other areas. house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes is expected to get more information from the nsa if any members of the trump transition team were unmasked in routine surveillance as calls grow for an independent investigation. should there be one? the white house is turning its attention to tax reform. whether the republican party will unite in the after math of the health care reform failure.

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>> a big week ahead for the investigation into whether russia interfered with the u.s. election. devin nunes saying he expects more information from the nsa on unmasking of the trump team. he posed a hearing team so he could call the nsa and fbi directors back. the top committee member slamming the move and repeating his calls for an independent investigation. >> i think the chairman has to make a decision whether to act as a surrogate of the white house as he did in the campaign and the transition or to lead an independent and credible investigation. he hope he chooses the latter.

>> the congressman defending nunes for going to the president for briefing on his finding. >> my understanding, chairman nunes briefed the commander-in-chief. that's a big deal in washington. we've sunk to a new low. >> meantime, jared kushner will meet with the senate intel committee as part of its russia probe. so is an independent investigation special -- what is needed here in your legal expertise? >> i think an independent investigation would be great. the problem is how do you get one? we're at the point now where everything is partisanship. how do you get somebody that isn't -- who isn't bringing in their agenda? a judge makes a decision we don't like. the first thing we do is who appointed him? is he a democrat or republican? if he's an appointee from our

party, the guy is an idiot. nobody is willing to look at it as this is truly independent anymore. then when you have this active impropriety, it appears improper for nunes to go running to the white house. this is no different than when clinton met with lynch in the tarm tarmac. why does anybody have to believe them? it's the appearance of impropriety that hangs over ever ring, this. >> you've heard that comparison in previous days. now when you learn what might have known, it makes it fit now. loretta lynch knew it would have been a prosecution. so what about james comey? some calls about well, should he be in that position anymore? have we gotten that far with the

fbi director? >> i don't have to agree with comey to think that he is a good person for the job. i think he is a good person for the job. i don't agree with some of his decisions. frankly, when it came out against indicting hillary, which i didn't agree with. i thought there was enough evidence there. it wasn't based on her intent under the laws that existed. i still didn't question whether it was politically motivated. turns around, he does something that democrats hate. so somebody who is not concerned whether he angers one party or the other. he doesn't care. >> so talk to me about jared kushner and what we can learn there. what could that testimony -- >> and he had that meeting at trump tower with sergey kislyak,

who is at the center of this thing. i would like to see the list of the american officials elected and otherwise, advisers, strategists that met with this guy. i have a feeling it's a pretty expansive list. i have a feeling he's such a player and this guy is just trying to seek out and exploit as much power as he can. he doesn't have a fetish for a particular strike. he will meet with anyone. you know that he's met with democrats. you know he's met with democrats on a number of committees. unless you're connecting all of the dots, you can't take the ones most convenient and try to craft a story. no matter what they do here, unless the dots actually make a picture of a dog or a clown, you have nothing there the allegations are so serious that they absolutely -- the facts have to meet in order for there to be the kind of --

>> megan, you've had strong feelings. do you see the need for an independent investigation? >> i do, but what is independent anymore? no one trusts anyone in any facet of this. mr. nunes, when he came out said he found information. this seems like a conspiracy to me. i just want clarity and transparency. you said this, like trying to connect the dots. it's collectively exhausting for the entire population of the american people. i would like hard facts, hard news. please let me know how this is going. if we have nothing new, we're continuing to take nuggets of truth s to be used for personal narratives. it's exhausting. depending on who is speaking about it, it's their political narrative. >> we should learn more this week. after the health care failure,

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biggest middle class tax cuts in the history of this country. >> chuck schumer says the white house next to reject the conservative freedom caucus and focus on working with democrats to help the middle class. >> if he aims a proposal at the middle class and poor people, they're doing great. god bless them. they don't need another tax break for the rich. we can work with them. >> you think it's fantasy that chuck schumer will work with republicans? >> yes, i do. as we said before, the democrats would very much like president trump to accept their agenda and their proposals and go along with it. as far as negotiating, i don't see that happening in today's climate. i think that his proposal of president trump of come work with us is more of an opportunity to delay him another 90 days. i don't see it. >> what do you think the

likelihood of going forward with the tax reform? what the do you think is the likelihood? >> a lot of what president trump, the ambitious plan he proposed is because of the obamacare front. that obviously didn't happen. i don't think they can walk away from that and go ahead. the other thing president trump would do is sell his plans to the public. he got to the public with their support. so he needs to sell what he wants to do with the public and let the elected officials go against the public will. >> one thing i would say is the white house, senior officials confirmed to fox news earlier today, they called this the week of action and we can look forward to the president going forward with new executive actions this week, executive orders out on trade, energy and environmental regulations. the president made it strong that he feels there's a way

ahead in budget and tax reform. i'm curious how you don't include healthcare in that. it is a sixth or a fifth? it's a big chunk of the economy. i don't know how you go forward. >> tax cuts would have been helpful for them going forward. >> it's an engine driver. >> but you know, that's a tough part of health care to sell to the public. what you can sell in tax reform to the public, this is a proven way to get the economy going. you will have more of your money back, this is your money you worked for, you deserve it. that's an easy sell. everyone loves lower taxes. the question is, do you go forward with some of those provisions that split the party? like revenue neutrality. you don't necessarily need that. like the border adjustment tax. that could mean higher prices for goods -- >> the fact is, nobody can answer that question, what is causing uncertainty. the dow jones is down 66 points today. we're looking at the longest losing streak for u.s. stocks in

5 1/2 years. there's uncertainty in the market in the face of this health care failure. there's concern the current white house won't get this tax reform done as it was sold to the public and voters and those that put trump in office. a lot of concern right now. it's fair to say, that sell off in the stock market is a result of what did not happen. >> that's the political uncertainty, absolutely. >> but if you have tax cuts and you have to have tax cuts at the higher end, but you also have to free up the economic engine and capital for some of the biggest earners. when the you do, the economy he grow. >> the market loves that. >> and they were going to leave in the cadillac high taxes in the bill through 2018. i'm curious, so the president, the white house calling this the week of action going things like energy and trade, that gets us to the heart of some of those issues that investors might be on the fence about. can he get anything done. >> that's plain uncertainty.

you're not seeing a chaotic sell off in the market. it's a steady one. >> we're still at 20,500. >> does that help quiet that done? >> a lot of people are nervous in different ways. i can not overemphasize what a political blow this was. i said this before, if we screw up the obamacare, it's going to be hard going into 2018. we show we have all power in the government and we can't get anything done. going forward with tax reform. if we cannot get together as a party, freedom caucus, conservatives. everybody has a voice. everyone was elected for different reasons. we have to work together as one. otherwise, i don't know what it means for the republicans going forward, especially for my generation. i don't know how to tell people vote for our form of government, vote for what we believe in but nothing will happen because we can't get it together.

>> when i hear one side say we were elected to get this done and we won't budge until you get it done -- >> it's a telltale sign. how many were fence sitters when it came to the candidate of donald trump. this is like a foil of that. they really didn't agree. now to the showdown over the neil gorsuch nomination. the senate judiciary committee is meeting at this hour for the purpose of sending the gorsuch nomination to the floor. democrats are forcing a week's delay as the rules allow. as democrats line up to oppose gorsuch, not one person has gone on record saying they will support him from the left. lindsey graham says the favors -- he favors using the nuclear option to kill any democratic filibuster blasting what he calls the takeover of the dem party.

watch. >> this has none to do with neil. it has the democratic base taking over. >> here's what i tell my democratic friends. if you can't find the courage to voted, we cannot find a better person for you to vote on as a republican. you're letting the senate traditions go away and letting the country down and if i have to change the rules to put this man on the supreme court, i will. >> the leader of the senate democrats, chuck schumer, is defending his party's right to filibuster. >> 60 votes makes sense. you get bipartisan support. the bottom line is when we democrats had a chance to change the rules, we didn't change it for supreme court. for that very reason. and i'd say to my republican friends and to the country, if you don't think the candidate can't get 60 votes, you don't change the rules. you change the candidate. >> he knows better than everyone.

>> he does. >> sandra? >> i was looking at megan. neil gorsuch couldn't not be a more capable and prepared candidate. in 2006, democrats sang his praises all day long. if they're going to blow their political capital on neil gorsuch, i don't know how it will help in the future, especially with the balance of the supreme court. i don't understand why they're blowing their political capitol -- >> you mentioned some of them, the third hoff the senate that gets re-elected, part of it is that some of those people are up and you have people like heidi hidecamp who is getting pressure and claire mccaskill. no you have to go against him even if you think he's valuable. >> i don't know. it's like canvasses crickets. you don't know which are sings and -- >> i don't know how schumer can say that with a straight face.

60 is the number today. but when harry reid decided to change the rules, 60 wasn't the number then for federal judges, cabinet appointees. the senate has always been about compromise. it's been the more introspective. >> it's a small-group of people. >> sure. they decided in their wisdom to blow out the tradition and say we're going to use the nuclear option. everybody warmed him. said when the republicans will be in power, they'll use the same nuclear option against you. no, no. good job, harry reid. >> and now lindsey graham said we don't want to do this because it's going to hurts us later. the democrats didn't have that foresight. harry reid knew he would retire in his chamber of secrets where he could have a love affair with his exercise equipment. now the senate is left to deal with his mess. now for the rest of us that are independent and not members of

either party, it's frustrating. it's as those the republicans said give us a supreme court nominee who is likeable, young, can withstand the pressure and who seems like the kind of person that americans can traditionally get on board with. they delivered neil gorsuch. democrats have to say one substantial thing about this guy is, you know, judicial philosophy that they have a major issue with instead of al franken asking him what he would do with his tractor trailer in 14 degree weather. >> going back to chuck schumer. the exchange that we had, he delivers his message in a condescending tone. >> somewhat. >> harris, you mentioned leading into this, you do hear from the guy every 15 seconds. we talk about political capital -- >> he's not picky about political capital if you haven't noticed. >> he's the face of the party. there's some that he might seek the highest office in the land. >> hilarious.

>> please run. i would love watching that. >> with neil gorsuch, you talk about using your political power now for the democrats and how short-sighted that is. >> huge. >> moving forward. if you invoke the nuclear option, if you force republicans to do that this time around, what will it looks like when it really counts? you're going conservative for conservative on the court. what about when you're people are off the court and a chance that a conservative -- >> a very good chances another justice will leave the bench voluntary or involuntarily. if you created the situation where all you need is 51 votes, there's nothing to talk about. nothing to talk about. they'll pick whoever they that's not good for the american people. >> quickly, kennedy. >> it's a great disservice to the country. this is 1 area where republicans and democrats traditionally, unless they had a massive issue with the nominee, they would go

ahead and vote with the president's pick because it's one area where you understand the president, who is in office, has the right to nominate the supreme court justice. >> you don't expect them to agree with the pick of the republican side. just like the republicans didn't agree with the picks that obama made but they didn't stone wall them. >> right. i like -- i don't know if this fits, but it's my favorite quote. sunlight is disinfectant. >> it is. i don't know if it fits. joe biden said if he had to run for president last year, he could have won! why he says he was the most qualified and whether he would have been a better candidate than hillary clinton. we're coming back. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

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>> welcome back. former vice president joe biden says he regrets not running for president last year.

he suggests that he could have beaten donald trump. biden, who ran twice before, as you remember, decided against a try after his son died in 2013. he told an audience saying that he had data if he had a democratic nominee he had a good chance of winning. he also had this to say. >> i was the best qualified. the things that i've spent my whole life doing, american foreign policy, the ability to bring people together, the respect on both sides of the aisle, i thought there was a need to bring the country together. i thought i could have done it. >> megan, could he have done it? >> i love joe biden. i always will. i have a special place in my heart for him although we agree on nothing politically. i can't find a politician that doesn't have some revisionist history that if they had run in

the last cycle things would have turned out easily. we forget what a terrible campaigner he was. made a lot of really rookie errors, made a lot of dumb gaffs. i'm not convinced he would have beaten president trump. he's a nice man, genuine man. i like him on a personal level. >> it would have been fun. >> a very different race. you know, biden obviously comports himself differently than hillary clinton during debates. he knows how to fight when he has to. he can turn on the likability and charm that she doesn't have and a billion dollars can't buy. >> he's saying right now he would have been a better candidate than hillary clinton. clearly. >> who wouldn't have been a better candidate than hillary clinton? that pen is a very low bar. >> and in terms of the polling, the resets that we saw with hillary clinton, out on a remote island off of new york and la,

la, la. he has likability. and it happened on the very program, we took his remarks saying he wasn't going to run. for the first -- i don't know -- ten minutes sounded like he was going to run. it's like okay, okay. oh, no. he sounded so disappointed and sad. >> like james coney. you thought he was about to indict hillary clinton and pulls the rug out. >> similar remarks. you can tell there was a big part of him that really wanted to run. >> i can understand -- my mother lost both of my brothers. they both passed away. >> i'm so sorry. >> i can't imagine how you survive that, how you lose a child. in the midst of that, to turn around and run for president, which is -- seemed like a daunting task. >> i would almost believe it was joe biden's decision. if it wasn't for the down fall of bernie sanders. what happened in the democratic

party with the desire, the thirst that was so real to anoint a woman to the thrown. i would almost believe it was his decision but i don't. >> it would have been an interesting campaign. think of the things that he's said. >> the gaffs? >> yeah. >> shoot somebody through the door with a shot gone. >> would you -- you would have had two candidates -- >> you're right, biden would have gotten -- he would have to look at bernie sanders and saying this is not my democratic party, this is not the direction the country needs to go in. that is enough of a magnet. but he's going to live with a lifetime of regret. don't you through? >> listen, i met him in person. he's a lovely man with a sense of humor, which is really needed in politics today. i don't think he lives his life in regret. he's been through a lot of

personal tragedy. he's a really -- a needed person in the democratic party in the sense that he's not flame throwing that the way that chuck schumer is. he's friends with republicans personally. these lions of our political history that are frankly going on the wayside, it's important that he is still there. >> the way you speak of joe biden, i never heard of a republican speak that way of hillary clinton. >> jared kushner is being tapped to lead a new white house office aimed at fixing the federal government using business idea. can he shake up washington? maybe give d.c. a new attitude. more in a moment. hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer and i finally found our big idaho potato truck. it's been touring the country telling folks about

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. but jenna has more. >> we have breaking news. the intel community looking into the relationship between trump and russia. the heads of the house intel committee coming under fire. john roberts has breaking detills. president trump and the gop moving on to tax reform. there's no major overhaul for some 30 years.

will that change this year? that's the question we'll be asking on "happening now." >> thanks. looking forward to it. >> jared kushner tapped to lead what is being described as a swat team focused on using business ideas to fix the federal government. the president's son-in-law will ever see the new white house office of american innovation. he will report directly to the president. "the washington post" reporting the office will be staffed by former business executives, will aim to infuse fresh thinking into washington, float above the daily political grind and create a lasting legacy for the president. also reportedly help president trump helpful fill campaign promises like helping veterans and fighting opioid addiction. we go back to discussing jared kushner. what do you make of what we're learning here? >> he's a bright young man. the president intends to tap into his resourcefulness at

every step and every turn, which is fine. however, i think when you look at businesses and why they succeed, it's because there's innovation and ultimately a lack of government interference. i know he's talking to people like bill gates and elon musk. some of these abstract big picture thinkers. government doesn't have that ability. so the less government, the more innovation. so instead of creating a new department, a new post, why not just start getting rid of things that get in the way of business and that great thinking. >> and you think he's a good guy for that job. so megan. as far as we've seen the relationship between the president and his son-in-law is strong, loyal. you think he's the right guy to this. >> and the president said he will bring peace to the middle east. so very high stakes for jared kushner. i don't have a problem with

this. i'm still questioning the role of kushner and ivanka truck. they're both working in the white house but on vacation in the first giant legislative failure of their father and father-in-law's presidency. so i would like more clarity what this means. so you're going to be sort of creating new government agencies? i don't understand what the role is exactly. so 100% just want more clarity. >> so in an interview, jared kushner said the government should be run like a great america company. they want to achieve successes and efficiencies -- >> my problem -- i'm not a business person. i'm a political analyst. in businesses, there's not a lot of whipping up of votes on both sides, which was needed in repeal and replace last week. so yes, it's fantastic. we have people successful in business, but i don't think if we learned one thing from last week, but it's important to have people to understand the nuances how the government is run as well. >> it's interesting, judge, the difference between the obama

white house and the trump white house in terms of what megan is saying. the big criticism against president obama, how many political hacks he had on his staff and administration. now you look at the flip. a new way of doing things. i think we have to watch and see how this shakes out. we didn't need a script on the former one. it was ant break in tradition. it was a more of what we've seen. >> when you see the people he's planning on working her, tim cook, bill gates, these are some of the people that have been the president's strongest critics when it comes to the travel ban, for example. could this maybe be a way to bring some of those people together? >> i think if donald trump accomplishes nothing else in his presidency other than changing the atmosphere in washington from the bureaucratic mess that government is to a more streamlined, efficient, business-type of atmosphere, it will have been well worth it. i don't have a lot of faith they

will be do the amount of government waste, if you trimmed all of the government waste, you can pay for anything he wants to pay for, including tax cuts. so the problem is the unions will fight you, the agencies will fight you. the lifers that don't ever get fired for incompetent performance because they're government officials will fight you the whole way. >> some say you have to start somewhere. more in just a moment.

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>> thank you so much, always good to have you here on the couch. >> great to be here, thank you. >> feeling positive going forward? >> i am a positive guy, i think things will be okay. now people are scoring the data showing the skies on fire, it is falling or whatever. >> the ceiling is the roof. he >> great to have you, kennedy. >> starting things off on a monday. >> we have some by parliament 8 -- bipartisanship here on the couch, i wonder how much is fantasyland. >> better chance of getting it done on the couch and over on capitol hill. >> thank you so much. we are staying here right on for raqqa overtime on the web, find us at

facebook.com/outnumberedfnc. back on tomorrow at noon eastern, "happening now" now. >> we start with a fox alert, we are awaiting the first white house briefing since the collapse of the republican health care bill on friday. >> jenna: a lot of finger-pointing within the g.o.p., president trump simile he could work with moderate democrats if conservatives will not back his agenda. recovering all of the news "happening now." >> i believe it is time for the party to start governing. i think that is important. i also think that democrats can come to the table as well. >> this is all fixable if we sit down like reasonable people and try to solve the problem and not beat each other out. >> jenna: signs of potential bipartisanship after the plan to repeal and replace obamacare ins for the trump admission and house republicans. work in the white house and lawmakers find common ground here? also... >> there is no evidence that this was a terrorist attack, however to the victims, what difference does it make?