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takes the information he has seen the white house doesn't share it with his committee. >> the chairman has to make a decision whether to act as a surrogate for the white house or to lead an credible investigation. the country needs to have an independent, credible investigation in the house. >> eric: it was revealed today that chairman nunes viewed the documents that reportedly shows incidental collection of team trump on white house grounds a day before he revealed his news to the public. spokesman says it was shown to him there in order to have proximity to a secure location where he can provide the information because of classification rules, the source couldn't walk the documents to the committee. sean spicer addressed the revelation at today's briefing. >> i know chairman nunes confirmed he was on white house grounds tuesday.
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any questions regarding we met with her why he was here should be referred to him. i'm not going to get into who he met with ny he met with them. i think that something he is made clear. >> eric: greg, seems like a lot to do. a lot of times, committee chairman can go to the white house. they are looking for sensitive, compartmentalized information facilities, secure locations. >> greg: we must point out that adam schiff is definitely sheriff woody from "toy story." >> eric: he needs a hat. >> greg: has he helped or hurt the president? sounds like you want to do the right thing but it kind of blew up in his face. setting up two people on a blind date and one turns out to be a psychopath. the bottom line is the perception from nunes' broad claim that the trump people were surveilled through incidental collecting, in a way, has proved trump is kind of right.
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not completely right about obama, bob. but the best you could hope for is being half right. that's better than most politicians. nunes provided trump with more cover than michael moore's shadow. >> eric: let's find out what he knows, what he's seen, what he's been told. several documents showing trump transition members being instantly surveilled by the fbi. >> bob: the key point you made was that they couldn't carry these things the intelligence committee. it indicates to me that the most secure locations in washington by far are the house and senate intelligence committees. could have easily gone there but they didn't prove why? a trump person gave it to nunes. >> eric: you are speculating. you are speculating. >> greg: we don't speculate on "the five"! >> eric: we don't know who's on these documents.
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>> bob: someone had to have access. >> meghan: we don't know what evidence he is speaking of. it is incumbent on nunes to be as transparent as possible. i think it's important to note that he became the chairman because he doesn't have a reputation for being grandstanding. he had a good reputation which is why he was given this position as chairman. it is not beyond anyone's comprehension. we know president obama targeted people for political reasons. it's not above everyone's understanding that this could happen. but i am begging chairman nunes to be as transparent as possible. i do believe the american public has a right to know whether or not our intelligence agencies are doing things for political purposes and specifically against the sitting president. all leaks .2 yes. >> bob: you cut me off. i was going to say it's okay. >> greg: don't cut bob off. >> eric: the shroud of
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mystery. devin nunes gets a call. the uber he is in has to pull over. nunes leaves with the staffers in the car, goes to the white house, gets the information then the next days when they revealed there something going on. >> kennedy: he is switching cars. reminds me of the end of "goodfellas." wives talking about boring stuff and then the hand the phone back to the husband. chairman nunes actually thought about installing his own private server in order state the classified information at his house. he realized that's not a crime anymore. he went ahead and went to the white house. there are other secure locations he could have gone to. >> greg: the popeyes on 17th. >> eric: starbucks bathroom. >> eric: adam schiff going in front of the cameras every
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chance he gets talking about independence is absolutely laughable. one of the reasons the chairman didn't share the information with congressman schiff's because congressman schiff is a little bit annoying and he knew no matter what he did, either way. >> bob: by the way, it whoever gave him that stuff had a white house badge which means they work for trump. >> eric: does schiff work for trump? >> bob: we are talking about nunes. >> eric: you are making the leap that it came within the white house. >> bob: you have to have a pass to get in the white house. >> meghan: it clearly alarmed him enough to say it in front of the press corps. he knows this will probably end up -- i think there are a lot of unanswered questions about what the intelligence community was doing and why. if he saw some evidence that
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show they were spying on donald trump for a specific reason, that's information the american public has a right to know. i am not conspiratorial by nature. i think all the information, the leaks are pointing to an extreme politicalization in the community. the american public should be wary. >> bob: why should trump get the information before the committee? >> kennedy: he is president of the united states. >> bob: i think he doesn't read anything. >> eric: today press secretary sean spicer pushed back on the idea that nunes was the recipient of what they are calling a white house "leak." >> there's a difference between a leak, someone leaking to reporters for nefarious, to take classified information and share it with people who aren't cleared. chairman nunes is cleared. someone who is cleared to share classified information with somebody else cleared is not a
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leak. >> eric: all right, bob. all you, brother. >> bob: he's not going to last long anyway. the fact of the matter is, that is the most tortured answer i've heard. this is the chairman of the intelligence community. it's unprecedented. they never, ever had that happen. when i was in the white house in '76, we started on frank church's bill. cochairs of the senate and never once did either one of them give something to the white house that the other one didn't know about. >> eric: did you make a claim that white house is don't make? >> bob: no, i said the intelligence committee chairman usually are formidable americans who were not trying to cover them for a dirty president. >> greg: may not be a leak. it's what i call a tease. i think it was premature in this press conference. it was like someone who said they have good gossip and right when they are about to tell you,
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they say i've got to go. >> kennedy: or rachel maddow saying about the tax returns. >> eric: that there was more distance between tuesday night getting the information and then the press conference that nunes held the next day. >> kennedy: also the white house points to nunes' information and says see? we are exonerated. >> bob: but they are not exonerated. >> kennedy: at some point it's begging the question, it's using the premise is the conclusion. >> eric: let me bring -- >> kennedy: i don't believe necessarily in the wiretapping but i do believe that a lot of these agencies inappropriately used surveillance in one form or another. >> eric: meghan, on friday they said, nunes said he was going to call james comey and admiral rogers for a closed-door
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meeting that was supposed to happen today. they were no-shows. >> meghan: that is highly disappointing but i think jamese forward. i thought he should have stepped down. republicans and democrats have reasons to believe he is politicized and easily manipulated both ways. i'm concerned. i've always been deeply concerned by these leaks. anytime you're taking secret intelligence information that could impact national security into your hands for political reasons, to say it's dangerous, i think it's treasonous. i think it's insane. i think this white house has a leaking problem because a lot of people were put into place in the intelligence communities under president obama. i don't know exactly where they go going forward but i think this normalization of leaks is dangerous. starting with wikileaks and the understanding that releasing hillary clinton's information is okay. but i think chairman nunes needs to be as transparent as possible. >> bob: it is fair to say this
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has become controversial, this investigation. let me ask eric this too. do you oppose an independent counsel to get this out of capitol hill, out of politics come into the hands of people who know what they are doing? >> meghan: why did you oppose it with benghazi? i didn't. >> meghan: why did you post that with hillary clinton's email scandal? >> bob: i didn't. i hate to get into benghazi again. we stayed on benghazi for four years. >> kennedy: there is an innate distrust of so many people in the intelligence communities in so many people that would be on such a committee. it's absolutely ridiculous and quite frankly it scares me that so many have this distrust. i don't think it's something to make light off. you're talking about national security secrets and people trying to undermine the president. >> greg: i think we need an
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independent investigation to find out if it is nun-ez or nun-yez. nunes gave the tweet cpr. we had just moved past that story. he had to come back and do it. it was two weeks old. >> eric: i called his office and the voice said congressmen nun-ez. leave it there. tune in tonight. "o'reilly factor" ." bill's one-on-one interview with congressman nunes. >> bob: don't want to miss that. >> eric: shifting the blame on the g.o.p. health care plan. the latest follow next
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smiling." his chief of staff backed it up. >> the president is 100% correct and hits the bull's-eye. we can't be chasing the perfect all the time. sometimes you have to take the good and put your pocket and take the win. i think it's time for our folks to come together, and i also think it's time to potentially get a few moderate democrats on board as well. >> kennedy: curious. here is how some freedom caucus members are responding. >> this is not the end of the debates. i had one of my friends call me the other day and said it's like saying tom brady lost at halftime. we are may -- we may be in overtime but at the end of the day, the most valuable player will be president trump on this because he will deliver. >> instead of doing the blame game, let's get to work. let's get back to work and do
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what do what we told the voters we would do. 17% approve the bill. this bill didn't repeal obamacare. >> kennedy: it didn't. it gave a whitewashing at a few rewrites. eric, do you think it's inappropriate to blame the freedom caucus? >> eric: i think the freedom caucus is going to want the claim. premiums and deductibles were going to peek out. massively higher for most people in the districts. massively higher premiums. maybe it looks right now that it's their fault but i think there will be some form of replacement to obamacare down the road, so that will be taken care of. in the meantime, it is time to get working on taxes. i understand you want to do obamacare first because you want of the savings put toward taxes. do it anyway. take what looks like may be
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deficit increasing tax cut and fix it with the repeal of obamacare. took 17 months to get obamacare through. they tried to get the replacement done in 17 days. they have time to do it. >> kennedy: they have time. another white house says they're going to reach out to some democrats. my question for you, bob beckel, is there such a thing as a moderate democrat? >> bob: not from your standpoint. we are all communist. >> kennedy: i am a libertarian. how dare you. >> bob: sorry. the democrats want to get into the game and they think they've got an idea. you look at their welfare reform in the '90s, democrats and republicans coming together. i think democrats have an opportunity. i think trump doesn't care about the freedom caucus. and the democrats will protect one thing that the freedom caucus will never agree to, medicare reform and medicare extensions. they want to do away with it. democrats should do across state lines, tort reform, get some
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things done on medicare and you get a bill that will get past in the freedom caucus. right now this country's being held hostage by some right-wing kooks. >> kennedy: bob brings up a good point which is buying insurance plans across straight lines which is something you never hear democrats talking about. bernie sanders came out with his single-payer version of utopia which will truly bankrupt the country and make health care so ordinary it's awful. what is the way forward? reaching out to democrats or trying to get the republicans back in order? >> meghan: there are a lot of lessons to be learned. we see this through different lenses. i don't think the freedom caucus can take all the blame here. i'm surprised that's was getting the blame. this bill was done privately, backdoor by paul ryan. then presented on a silver platter and said you agree with it or were taking our ball and going home. the american people are suffering right now. one in ten. i just looked this up. at one in ten people in the
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american public wanted to remain as is. deeply unpopular still. i don't understand how republicans can't unite together for the good of the american public. premiums up 125% in my home state of arizona. i do think paul ryan could say we have to accept it. the freedom caucus should meet in the middle. i believe compromise could have happened had it not been so rushed and had there not been an insistence on no interparty cooperation. i think it could've been done differently. >> kennedy: i think you're right. if the bill were written differently, you would've seen more moderates and conservatives got on board. what does the road forward look like? eric talked about tax reform. the president have to have a win on tax reform before he goes back to the caucasus? >> greg: the road will always be bumpy when you are a conservative republican.
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the left is an obedient called. the right is as fractured. as fractured as black friday at walmart. we can't win them all. the worst thing you can do in my mind is the blame game. you sit there and stu. it's like a marriage. if you're only interested in being right, you will always be wrong. i have to give trump credit because he went for it and it humanized him. >> kennedy: his reaction when he had the press conference at the white house, but i want to bring up a point i would like you to address, bob. reince priebus says we should have put this in our pocket. i think that's what the democrats did with obamacare which was a horrible bill. they settled for something that was less than acceptable. now it's in a death spiral and
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republicans were smart not to make the same mistake. >> bob: you talk about a death spiral. i want to see that proven. 125% in arizona is for a small percentage of people. >> meghan: the stories coming out of my home state. cataclysmic. >> bob: the average arizonan does not pay 125%. >> eric: increases across the board. >> meghan: my home state. there are people paying more than their mortgage in their premiums. there is the bottom line for average americans. i'm angry at everybody. paul ryan, the freedom caucus, president trump, democrats. a lot of americans are suffering. this is an unpopular bill that will implode. >> kennedy: they are
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underwater. that's why we have the financial crisis. >> meghan: you shouldn't be so glib about something that is making people suffer. >> eric: it's almost impossible to come up with a bill that would cost more than obamacare but somehow the guys in d.c. figured it out. >> meghan: you think there could have been compromised? >> kennedy: i hate to compromise right now but we are up against a break so hard. coming up next, caused a storm on the internet. united airlines blocked two teens from getting on a flight because of something they were wearing. an item of clothing lots of women wear all the time. the airline's explanation and response ahead. at angie's list, we believe
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♪ >> greg: united airlines barred two teen girls from boarding a flight because their leggings violated a dress code. this set off our precious celebrity tweeters who for who frothed like cups of overheated cappuccino. must feel so good for christie teagan, patricia arquette to unload on a giant faceless company and its employees trying to do their jobs. which is what the gate agent was doing. the teens were boarding as past travelers pray they were flying for free as dependents of united employees. that means they represent the company and they need to follow the dress code. united can enforce such rules. that's why i don't show up for "the five" and hot pink leather cut off. it's good for you and the airline. since when did air travel turn into a sloppy slumber party? not just talking about women.
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men, boys, girls, flip-flops. i don't need to see your toenails. tank tops. your hairy shoulders turned no one on. spandex leggings, you are not on mine. wear them when you do laundry. without standards, who knows what we will wear next? travel like a pro, not like a hobo. as for the outrage, you can stop it, especially patricia arquette. she tweeted terror attacks are distractions from trump's russian ties. that opinion looks worse on you than a thong on bob beckel. >> bob: don't be so quick to judge. >> greg: i am going to go to the ladies first, or women. i spell it with a y. i think it's good for united. what do you say? >> kennedy: it's a company. this is not the government squashing someone's first
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amendment rights. frankly these girls should have had their parents explained to them what the dress code is. i remember a time when i used to fly in the '20s and '30s. we wore hats on the men wore suits with lapels and encumber bonds. we all had smoking jackets. >> greg: never goes out of style. meghan, what do you think? people travel in leggings carrying giant pillows. >> meghan: i come as a general rule, don't like telling women what to wear, how to wear, what went to wear it. >> greg: what if it's your company? >> meghan: i travel almost every weekend. you see people wearing pajamas to the airport. i don't know why it was these girls got the wrath of united. anything that patricia arquette and chrissy teigen are against, i i have been to before, so i change my position. it would be good if some of
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these celebrities put their platforms to good use by talking about veterans waiting at the v va. >> kennedy: the tsa, a real issue with airports. >> greg: women in radical islam. i don't remember chrissy teigen ever tweeting on that. >> eric: i would agree. you aptly point out that when you are flying for freight you're representing the company. just like in a football stadium, you can't show up in your own jersey. you're representing the team. i love the free market solution. delta tweeted today, where is this? flying delta means comfort. meaning where you can wear -- meaning you can wear your leggings. >> greg: that's what mimes wear. nobody likes mimes, especially you, bob. >> bob: i certainly don't. i miss those pink hotpants of
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yours. those were the highlight of some of our days. i'm going to agree with united on this. i think if they are flying for free, and i think, if i'm not mistaken, their father caught on before them and he must've known what the dress code was. >> eric: he was wearing leggings too. >> bob: he was? >> eric: you always have to take it one step further. >> bob: exactly. i don't understand why they can't just do what they are supposed to do if you are flying for free. if i could fly for free first class. i'd wear -- >> greg: god knows what you would wear. the other part of the story, this probably never would've been a story about a fellow traveler and blogger overheard it. it wasn't even a big deal. some of the girls found close to put on. but the fellow traveler and blogger, miss lizzie -- miss b.
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>> meghan: people who live tweet about other people. >> greg: half of it is made up. >> bob: i agree with kennedy. i like the days when used to wear ties and jackets. now they don't even do showers. >> kennedy: i wear a bow and sequence. >> greg: do you remember twa? we are old. or i am. next, an update from the president on his effort to secure the border and a stern warning from the attorney general to sanctuary cities to protect illegals.
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>> bob: i still don't understand what he said. here's a couple facts i want to throw around the table. more illegals leaving the country then coming in last year under the obama administration. what he's talking about, sanctuary cities, the sanctions they are going to put on states or cities were put into place by the obama administration last august. jeff, get yourself some new. >> eric: this is important. people are saying, what do you do about sanctuary cities? conservatives would say cut off funding. not only the funding they are reimbursed for when they are holding a legal but also cut off bigger picture funding. tried to figure out how you can do that and what president obama did, executive order, he earmarked or was pushing the earmarked education funding to cities that didn't uphold federal law. that's fantastic. all trump is doing is, once
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again, taking allow president obama put in place and actually enforcing it. >> bob: but they are talking about is cutting off funding for law enforcement which seems to me to be counterproductive. >> eric: worse than education? >> bob: both of them, legitimacy but i'm not sure i would start with law enforcement. >> greg: do you know how you punish a city like that? elect another liberal mayor. how do you threaten a city like chicago? under rahm emanuel, done more damage than anybody possibly could. it's a joke. all of these pro-sanctuary cities, they don't mean anything, just people going to look much i care? you don't care about your own citizens. you pretend to care about something like sanctuary cities because there's no capital being expended on your part. you seem so romantic. >> meghan: the left as good at politicizing emotion. talk to kate steinle's family if
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you think this is a good idea. i've never understood the concept of sanctuary cities. we are going to have a sanctuary area of new york where i don't pay taxes and i can do whatever i want because i don't pay taxes. there are real-life ramifications. plenty of stories in the news. 14-year-old girl raped in a sanctuary city last week. president trump ran on hard-line immigration. >> bob: kennedy, you are a libertarian. i assume you're thinking let them come in and smoked dope on the beach. >> greg: a great idea. i'm they are tomorrow. >> kennedy: i'd love to come to your pleasure party but i have work to do. meghan, you talked about virtue signaling. oftentimes these exercises on the left are "look how great i
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am?" but on the right, it is look how tough i am. bob brings up a good point. fewer people coming into this country and more leaving. as the great recession lingers. you also have some reforms in mexico that have improved the economy there. >> greg: making mexico great again. >> eric: that doesn't mean you look the other way. >> kennedy: that's my final point. someone does something bad, whether they are from here or they are just visiting or they have overstated visa, they need not continue to participate in a free prosperous country. >> bob: you live in a sanctuary city. has anything happened to you because of the sanctuary city? >> greg: a lot of things but i can't mention it here. >> bob: more u.s. troops heading overseas. the prime minister tears into president obama for abandoning the fight.
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parts of mosul and now we are sending in more troops. two companies have been deployed. iraq's prime minister predicted isis will be banished within weeks. >> do you see a difference between president trump's determination to destroy isis and president obama's? >> i see a powerful determination. >> more determination with president trump than president obama? >> yes. president obama didn't want to get involved in the first place. there was a lot of pressure on president obama to come to the help of iraq. i think at the moment there is understanding that iraq is an ally. should keep on working with ira
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iraq. >> meghan: i will start with you, i thought that was no disrespect to the iraqi prime minister but of course president trump is harder on isis and more committed to solving our problems in the middle east. >> eric: president obama couldn't wait for iraq to go away. i am in the camp, and i've been saying this for years, i hate the fact that we get involved in these middle east conflicts. i don't like them. you have the opportunity to put isis completely out. you have to finish the job. spend a trillion dollars in thousands of lives gone, finish the job. as far as syria, i don't know we pick up that fight. if you drive them out of iraq into syria, i am fine with letting the russians take care of it. >> bob: that's a good point to make. syria is a no-win situation. it is complicated. who the rebels are is not clear. the russians clearly are in line
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with bashar al-assad. same prime minister who shot his mouth off we wanted status agreement and he refused to go along with it. this punk refused to go along with it. i could care less what this guy thinks. i'm surprised he speaks english as well as he does. >> meghan: what do you think about sending 200 troops in? >> kennedy: seems as though if you don't have a clear strategy you're putting american warriors in harm's way. i think that's the biggest mistake the obama admin attrition made is not really having understanding of how the region works. granted, it is so complicated. to bob's point, you don't know who your friends are. you have no idea who your enemies are, how many of them there are. there's a pretty good chance they will be armed with your weapons within a few years as alliances shift. i agree with eric. syria is such a disaster.
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what assad and the russians have done in aleppo alone. humanitarian crisis. >> meghan: there's no other way of explaining it. it is hard to see that 200 troops are going to make enough of a difference to defeat isis and more importantly getting us out of the middle east for good. >> greg: the difference between president obama and president trump is, if you think you have all the answers, then you never ask the right questions. we did this story about afghanistan. the ambassador said that trump asked him the right questions. i think the reason why president obama missed isis to begin with is because he felt he had all the answers. isis didn't fit in his answer key. it wasn't there so therefore it wasn't a problem. at least with chum, he admits if he doesn't have the answers he is willing to ask the right questions. >> meghan: president obama was
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corner. ainsley earhardt has a nice sitdown interview with eric and lara trump. >> he was on cloud nine, we were joking. he saw lara in tennessee and she introduced him. she said he said i can't wait. >> told everyone in the room and i was like, we haven't told anyone yet. it was a surprise. >> he is super excited. >> eric: congratulations to the family. interview airs tomorrow on "fox & friends." >> greg: i have an article at foxnews.com/opinion. it is on identity politics, fraud. now it is time for this. i love any news about smelting. let's go to the experts.
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>> if you try alumina out and take it to the metal processing plant, you take it to the smelter, process the powder into liquid aluminum. the smelting process, smelters. big, big aluminum smelters. giant aluminum smelters. sabotaging his smelters. >> greg: like i said over the weekend, whoever smelt it. >> eric: what is your favorite fish? >> greg: smelter. bob. >> bob: first of all, this is why his politics stink. eric bolling is a good man. adding to the university of north carolina championship lor lore, shot here.
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less than a second left. they beat north carolina. >> eric: kentucky. >> bob: north carolina beat kentucky. that was luke made. the big news for him, the next day, he made an 8:00 a.m. business class at school and he walked in and he got applause from the students. very smart guy. congratulations. sometimes we only see the athletic side but he did a wonderful job. >> eric: clutch shot. >> meghan: to newborn babies named romeo and juliet born at the same hospital. different parents. they had a shakespeare themed photo shoot in honor of the hospital. they did it for them. so cute, i couldn't handle it. their parents are morgan and edwin.
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i thought that was adorable. >> kennedy: starcrossed diapers. you know how much i love mcdonald's. she is 94 and she has been working at mcdonald's in evansville, indiana, for 44 years. just had a big celebration. she's been working there since 1973. she's got four kids, six grandchildren, seven great-grandchildren. the relationship she has with her beloved customers keeps her going punching the clock year after year. she said if you don't like your job, it's a job. but i love it. lorraine, your story is amazing. >> greg: there is no one who is ever unhappy at mcdonald's. >> bob: have you ever been through the drive-thru at 2:00 in the morning? >> greg: yes. i walk there. you can walk to the drive through.
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i do it. >> bob: you would get mugged. >> eric: set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. >> the mystery deepens over how the chairman of the house intelligence committee got his scoop about surveillance. tonight, we know where he got it. this is special report. good evening. i am shannon bream info bret baier. it appeared to be business as usual this morning for president trump as he hosted a roundtable of business owners. the meeting came after weekend of reassessment and blame fixing following friday's withdrawal of a house bill to repeal and replace obamacare. more questions swirling around the head of the house intelligence committee and last week's big announcement about surveillance. john roberts
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