tulsa, pete. >> the free cafe has been fantastic. thank you for being such gracious hosts all morning long. >> everybody have a wonderful weekend. >> bill: good morning, everybody. there's a flurry of new information on the russian investigation. two white house officials giving house intel chairman devin nunes giving information that's open to democrats as well. good morning. i'm bill hemmer. split broadcast again today. the last one of the week live in "america's newsroom." shannon, how are you? good morning. >> shannon: things are good in d.c. i'm shannon bream in for martha maccallum. the report shows president trump and his team were picked up by spy efforts and we'll clear up

some of the mystery. this morning president trump fired off the tweet michael flynn should should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt. what do we know about the time line of the white house's involvement in briefing the house intelligence chair devin nunes. >> we're learning some answers and two aides helped as he was searching for proof the members of the trump transition were unmasked in the case of lieutenant general michael flynn publicly revealed which is a serious felony. the white house staffers are identified as ezra wattnick a senior director and michael

ellis who works on nfc matters. ellis used to work for the house intelligence committee. and wattnick survived an attempt by hr mcmaster to remove him from his position. the tick-tock is still murky. the unmasking was discovered on the executive branch computer system. that information made its way to the white house counsel office and chairman nunes came to the complex to review it. still holes in the time line. what's not clear is if wattnick crossed the information on his own or asked by chairman influence to -- nunes to look into it. it's also unclear what happened to the information after it landed in the white house

counsel's office. did he contact chairman nunes directly or did the information take another path which led to nunes coming down here? the revelations has raised more questions how close the relationship is with chairman nunes and the white house claiming some to criticize he's more interested in protecting the president than conducting the investigation. i'm told there's more information that may come out and we don't know when it will come out that will back up nunes' assertion he was looking into the matter long before the president sent out the tweets. shannon. >> shannon: john, do we have more of a clue about whether or not flynn would testify before one of these committees? >> i talked to a spokesperson on intelligence and they're not involved in a deal for immunity but general flynn is offering to testify to the house committee

but his attorney robert kelner is suggesting he wants immunity. on a statement on behalf of general flynn he writes no reason person who has the benefit of advice from counsel would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized witch hunt environment without assurances under unfair prosecution. witch hunt the same wording sent out by the president in a tweet. flynn has been around long enough to know when you testify it can come back to bite you especially in the super charged environment. he wants a reasonable assertion he'll not be open to prosecution by a prosecutor looking for a trophy if he goes before the house intelligence and senate intelligence committee. >> shannon: valid concerns there. john roberts live at the white house. >> bill: more on this.

republican congressmen jason chaffetz. nice to see you. the white house said come on down. we'll show you the same evidence nunes apparently saw. >> you want evidence. as long as it's credible and the sourcing is good you hear the democrats whining it came from the white house. what's that matter? what matters is the credibility of the evidence and we want the evidence of course they should look at it. >> bill: there's debate whether the hearings should be public and the question is they can't answer questions publicly. >> in the intel committee you had 100 times the fbi director for instance saying he can't answer in that form so probably best behind closed door where they're free to talk and

classification issues don't get in the way. >> bill: as reporters and viewers at home watching this, is this a witch hunt? >> no, i don't think it's a witch hunt. look, it's very mysterious to me though why general flynn is suddenly saying he wants immunity. a, congress shouldn't give him immunity and i don't believe the president should be weighing in on this. they're the ones that would prosecute something. i was critical of president obama would weighed in on the irs scandal before we had the facts and i don't think president trump should be weighing in on this. given immunity from what? we know what that is. it's up to the intel committee. >> bill: and it's thought over the past 12 hours the reason he's seeking immunity is because

he's guilty of something. do you agree with that? >> well, it doesn't look good. the witch hunt i don't buy that either. we're just trying to get to the facts and there are some swirling things that need to be answered. and so -- >> bill: would it be helpful to give him immunity in exchange for testimony to clear this up? >> remember what we went through with the hillary clinton scandal and five people got immunity and suddenly we didn't get the case. nobody was prosecuted and nor did we get to the truth. it's way too early to suggest that and you'd have to know what he's going to give up. >> bill: you said this is not a witch hunt but flynn's attorney said it was and the president used the term "witch hunt."

which is is? >> i think the democrats have spun this way up but republicans control the house, senate and presidency. it's only attorney general sessions and his group that can prosecute something. i have to think it's a pretty high standard to get to the point where you'd actually prosecute somebody. >> bill: you seem to be on the fence on this right now. did flynn screw this up or nunes or do democrats smell blood in the water. >> i think democrats have swirled the waters significantly but let's get to the facts wherever those may take us. that's still under process. if suddenly you have somebody stand up and say i need immunity. it raises your eyebrows even general flynn used that against hillary clinton. it comes around to bite you and i think they need to get to the facts. >> bill: let's move away from this and talk about washington. why is the president taking on

conservative members of your party? >> he wants a solution to the health care debacle. we all campaigned on getting on to repeal and replace obamacare. we were so close. nobody wants to walk away from this. i worry there are some people that can never get to yes but we're so close. i'm not willing to give up on it yet. >> bill: would you advise the strategy that has apparently developed after the health care debacle? >> there are a lot of discussions. probably more than people realize going on and that's a good thing. we don't just give up on it in the first 70 days of the presidency. it's core to what we said we were going to do and we better darn well do it. >> bill: what's the political danger knowing you have such significant pieces of legislation to conquer in the next month? you have a death ceiling to manage and keep the government operating without a shut down.

you see this relationship developing publicly. >> you'll have to tackle it one member at a time and we have to come together with something to pass and it's a good piece of legislation. i was supportive of it. it didn't do everything i wanted but a lot and we'll have to couple people together. the more difficult things like tax reform and funding the government and debt ceiling those things are still ahead of us. but health care's important. >> bill: you're suggesting 2.0 health care can come back? >> oh, yeah. >> bill: weeks, month? >> it can't happen soon enough. obamacare is a death spiral and when you talk to families and what they're going through and the prospect it will continue we have to give them relief. >> bill: jason chaffetz the republican from utah. shannon, what's coming up? >> shannon: with all that in mind president trump has been calling out the freedom caucus naming names after the failure of the health care bill. how those conservatives are now

answering back. >> it's constructive in 5th grade but it may allow a child to get its way but that's not ou the government works. >> shannon: is this endangering the trump agenda. we'll talk to marcia blackburn >> bill: and iran and north korea and the two rogue regimes and there is this. >> oh! >> shannon: that man's voice capturing a terrifying scene on the road after a fire caused an interstate to collapse.

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>> shannon: president trump set to target trade cheaters today. administration officials say the president is planning to sign executive orders to void trade abuses by country by country and product by product basis. officials are cautioning it's not about sending a message to china but the meeting next week will be difficult in the way that we can no longer have massive deficits and job losses. american companies must be prepared to look at other alternatives. the president will meet with

president xi jingping next week. >> it's constructive in 5th grade and may allow a child to get its way but that's not how the government works. >> as the understandable the president is frustrated we haven't gotten where we need to go and he's just expressing his frustration. you all know he does that in various forms including twitter. >> bill: there's a lot of reaction. republicans reacting putting some in his crosshairs president trump warning conservatives to get on board with his agenda or face the consequences in 2018 with democrats. want to bring in tennessee congresswoman marcia blackburn. >> good to be with you. >> bill: how should we view the

back and forth? >> the back and forth should be put aside. we have a problem to solve and know the affordable health care marketplace is collapsing. we hear anthem is wanting out of this and it's too expensive to afford, too expensive to use and out of fairness to the americans that got put into this marketplace we as members of congress working with the administration need to put differences aside and put the american people first and need to solve this problem. >> bill: donald trump tweeted this onscreen for viewers, if they get on board we'd have both great health care and massive tax cuts and reform. are they the ones holding this up? >> i think you can look at every faction of our party whether it's the tuesday group, the freedom caucus, the republican

study committee and say, ok, let's all agree that we have to come together. and i don't think you can place blame to any one group or any one individual. there are many of us that have been involved in meetings trying to bring a solution forward and to find those commonalities we can agree on and to get a bill that was so close to being a finished product and a product most of us felt we could support. we need to be certain that we have those 216 republican votes. but, bill, i want to make sure some democrats come in and support this. >> bill: we'll see if that happens. a week ago the president said this on the big day of the health bill. >> reporter: do you feel betrayed by the freedom caucus? >> no, i'm disappointed because

we could have had it and surprised. i'm disappointed but they're friends of mine and it's a very hard time for them. it's a very hard vote but they're very good people. >> bill: they would argue it wasn't good enough. wasn't conservative enough. you're trying it make the case things can be patched over. i don't know if it's possible or if both sides right now are negotiating publicly. which do you believe it is? >> we need to close the door and negotiate and come to a consensus on what we're doing to do. i'm not going to get everything i want. they're not going to get everything they want. tuesday group isn't going to get everything but it needs to be a consensus bill that's the best way forward. now, once we do this bill we can move on to things like my legislation which is a cross-state line purchase of health care. the association health plans we already passed in the house. the small business protections which we've already passed in the house and get around to

implementing 21st century cures signed into law by president obama and passed out of the house and senate on a bipartisan base i. that's the type of forward motion the american people expect to see and the frustration right now is we cannot agree and congress is not getting anything done and we're not keeping our commitment to the american people. we need to do this before we finish next week. >> bill: the last question and a quick answer. you just heard our conversation with jason chaffetz. does the rub between the white house and conservatives now affect what you need to get done over the next month? >> we should be the adults in the room. every one of us and push it aside. when we focus on personality we lose. when we focus on policy, we and the american people will win. >> bill: marsha blackburn from

tennessee. thank you. twenty minutes now past the hour. back to shannon. >> shannon: the house freedom caucus is not backing down can the party mend fences to get working on president trump's agenda. we'll get more from newt gingrich in our next hour. >> bill: and a swarm of bees invading spring training and beware they will sting again. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.

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i've never seen this. >> bees on the move apparently. >> bill: like they were under fire. that was the scene in arizona. rockies/padr rockies/padr rockies/padres 3rd inning and the they were so loud the microphone picked it up and those guys hitting the deck. guys, man up a little bit. they're running for cover up. >> shannon: with baseball you're out in the elements you never know what you're going to get and sometimes wildlife comes. hopefully everybody has their epi pens. safe and sound. no injuries. a fox news alert a major interstate highway burst into flames and collapsed last night. check it out.

>> oh, god! oh, [bleep] that's hot. >> shannon: investigators say pvc pipes may have caught fire underneath the elevated road. the governor now declaring a state of emergency as crews rush to put out the flames and now a major artery is close to traffic. jonathan, i know i-85 on a good day is a nightmare so any idea on how long until they get the interstate under control from this mishap? >> well, it's obviously going to be months before they can restore the northbound lanes with the chunk of the overpass missing but the fire that caused all this was so intense take a look at the video. the heat from the flames so intense the fire also caused some damage to the southbound lanes which are still standing so traffic has been closed in the southbound direct as well. as we speak crews are on the scene evaluating the damage

determining what they need to do to shore up the southbound lanes before they can reopen them to traffic. >> shannon: how about the morning commute? how's it being affected so far. >> as you pointed out atlanta traffic is horrible even on a normal day so with the large chunk of interstate missing officials are urging people to avoid the area and the situation is causing a ripple effect. look at the camera from midtown. this is where interstate 85 and 75 meet as you drive into the city from the south side and then they split again on the north side of the downtown and midtown area. ordinarily traffic would be evenly distributed but because

of i-75 they're diverting traffic to i-85 and you see the traffic queueing up. >> shannon: we hear signs of progress so thank you for the update. >> bill: that's a big deal in atlanta. they'll be messing with that for some time. in the meantime a new legal battle over the travel ban that puts the 9th circuit back in the spotlight. >> shannon: and president trump praising michael flynn's decisions on twitter. will he get an immunity deal if he testifies under oath. here's what jason chaffetz said moments ago? >> i don't know it doesn't look good. the witch hunt i dont agree with either but there's things that need to be answered. meta appetite control...

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>> shannon: significant developments in the russia investigation. confirmation two white house staffers helped devin nunes as he investigated investigation of trump transition staffers. in today's "wall street journal" saying all the drama served to deep-six the important information the americans urgently deserve to know and mr. nunes had he had seen proof and further unmasked transition officials and that's a potential crime. david bossie is president of the citizens united and fox news contributor. let's start with nugget of the bluster of how the

information got to nunes and overshadows, happily for the left, he may have uncovered something that is potentially a felony. >> kimberly strosel is right. the democrats want to folk on the process. that's all they have to argue and nitpick over the process. the substance is we know only one felony has been committed so far and whoever leaked the documents to try to damage the trump administration. the only felony we know is by somebody on their side not somebody on our side. what mike flynn has or hasn't done is still an open question i think we'll get to the bottom of. >> shannon: what he has said is that it doesn't connect to russia and we've had to parse with what he said because he has so be careful but says it looks like there was enough of incidental collection of people close to trump people could

identify who it was. we also have the information that's come from a former obama administration staffer who repeatedly and publicly said there were attempts to push information to certain people to make sure it was out there the incoming administration wouldn't be able to hide it. >> that's evelyn farkis. she may need immunity before long there needs to be a subpoena of her and deposition of her immediately. >> shannon: to quote her side he said she's not done anything that was felonious. >> except for on the interview -- we knew, we decided we talked to, i spoke to -- that's part of a conspiracy she's part of. and by the way, she could be the source. somebody may have leaked it to her but she may have been the source for the media to get this

material. she certainly sounded like it and if you look at the "the new york times" coverage of the -- of the article she has a lot to answer for and i'm not focussed on the process. i'm focussed on the substance and on the investigation. >> shannon: ok. so now we have information. potentially there's conversations between michael flynn, the former security adviser and the committee and senate. here's what his attorney said he said general flin -- flynn has a story to tell and says no reasonable person would submit to questions without such a highly politicized witch hunt and the president says it's a witch hunt by media and dems of historic proportions.

>> the president is exactly right. mike flynn i don't believe has done anything wrong as it relates to russia. i don't know why he's asking for immunity but i can tell you in this atmosphere whether it's a witch hunt atmosphere people want it talk about but this hyper-partisan atmosphere. if you're the lawyer for michael flynn it's the responsible duty to get him immunity so the words he says aren't used against him. >> shannon: and it's dangerous we've seen with other people when you go before congress you are under oath and you can open yourself to investigation. >> i've been on the other side. i've been the chief investigator trying to get folks in the clinton administration to testify before our committees and we'd have to go through the immunity process with them as well except in that situation

there were underlying criminal activities not just political footballs being thrown around. >> shannon: we don't know because the fbi is cagey about what they are and aren't investigating and what the tracks are. you mentioned clinton era officials something jason chaffetz said there was immunity given to a number of clinton staffers with regards to the e-mail and servers and people feel it didn't bear fruit. the immunity didn't get -- >> the immunity -- right. there's a problem. you grant people immunity and those are folks related to her server and those folks were given immunity by the obama administration. in the 1990s when we used the clinton administration we used immunity as a carrot and stick in order to get the information to be able to prosecute them.

>> shannon: so far everyone connected to flynn said immunity hasn't been offered. they want to get down the road more and finish the investigation to another level before they know what they'd ask of him. >> perfectly appropriate. >> shannon: we'll see. david bossie, thanks for coming in. bill. >> bill: shannon, the trump administration appealing a judge's ruling from hawaii blocking its revised travel ban. this will set up a legal battle yet again at the 9th circuit court of appeals. william la jeunesse has the story live in l.a. >> two things happened. wednesday the federal judge in hawaii made more permanent his ban on the president's travel ban. then yesterday the administration appealed that to the 9th circuit arguing the president has the authority to restrict travel from foreign countries in the national interest. what it means is this, the administration is now fighting in two appeals court, one in san francisco and one in virginia to

re-in state -- reinstate had his ban and a judge ruled against it, hawaii, maryland and washington state argue is essentially a religious ban on muslims. >> i think freedom of religion is very. it's a very important principle not just for the country but it's also an important principle for the state of hawaii as part of our state constitution as well. >> so what is next? the 4th circuit in virginia scheduled an appeal for may 8. because it's in two federal courts and either side is likely to appeal and the government argues this isn't about religious discrimination but executive authority. likely it will be decided by the u.s. supreme court. >> bill: thank you, william.

william la jeunesse in our west coast bureau. shannon. >> shannon: there's bad news for democrats trying to block president trump supreme court pick. there might be dissent in the ranks because two democratic senators now say they're on board with judge neil gorsuch. is the determination to block him beginning to crumble? will they stand strong? we'll see the vote's coming monday, bill. >> bill: attorney general jeff sessions sounding the alarm on government leakers saying one thing needs to be done to stop them. >> it's almost as if people think they have a right to violate the law and this has got to end and it will probably take some convictions to put an end to it. tough, capable, clever. get a 3-year brp limited warranty plus a $1,500 cash rebate on 2016 defender models.

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>> shannon: a fox news alert out of london and the pentagon chief

saying iran continues to export terrorism and calling out north korea for its quote, reckless behavior saying the missile testing has to be stopped. more on that as soon as we get it. >> the leakers in the various agencies, federal agencies, you guys zeroing in on them. do you think you'll have indictments shortly? >> i expect we'll get to the bottom of some of this. this is not right. we've never seen this kind of leaking. it's almost as if people think they have a right to violate the law and this has got to end and it will probably take some convictions to put an end to it. >> bill: there's the a.g. jeff sessions indicating criminal charges is what is needed to put a stop to it. juan williams and mercedes

schlapp and mercy, mercy me and one in a million he says. is he right, mercedes, that only convictions will stop this? >> it will clamp down on the leaks of classified information. the leaks could be if convicted a felony of ten years in prison. this is serious especially when you ask questions on how the intelligence information has been gathered. how it was de classified in the last moments or lower classifications in the last days of the obama administration. so i think there are serious questions that need to be addressed and get down to the bottom of this in terms of what you're doing with the leakers. >> bill: why were the private conversations of a new president and foreign leaders made public. conviction. is that where we're heading to

stop it? >> we saw the obama administration were tough on leakers. i guess we'll continue to see an effort from the trump administration. the context is different. when have you a situation we just saw recently where you have white house officials in hiding handing information to devin nunes the chairman of house intelligence it's hard to talk about leaks with a straight face. the trump administration looking like they're guilty of the same information. >> bill: they said they can look at the information. >> clearly it was handed out in secret in a way that amounts to a leak. i think the larger point the trump administration is trying to make is the story is about leaks opposed to the -- >> bill: no one is denying someone was surveilled from the trump team. why it happened and under what terms is something we don't know. >> the bigger question is if the intelligence information is being used for political purpose

because it was during the campaign season. so that's the bigger question to ask how this intelligence information that they gathered, what was the real reason behind it. was it to undermine the trump presidency? this is a criminal act and should be investigated by the fbi and there should be convictions. there's a whistleblowing mechanism you have in place for government officials if they don't agree with what the president says. >> bill: we're getting too far afield from the topic. back to jeff sessions, ok. the other significant point made with o'reilly is the administration has no plans to go to hotels and farms in california and round up illegal immigrants. the other thing he said is the sanctuary cities and states should hold their fire right now because once they hear from their constituents he was making the case they'll change their position and the point he cited

was the state of maryland. when it declared this week it will not be a sanctuary state. interesting point once you start to listen to people perhaps you're position changes. >> well, that's a fair point. the question is the politics of it and what we've seen from the mayors in the big cities and here in new york where sanctuary cities were started by rudy giuliani and the big cities, austin and texas where the governor is trying to punish them for it they say they're standing with their citizens and their citizens look politically to stand with them. but if you get a case where sessions says the polls change i guess you might get a different political outcome. >> bill: his point was wait until you hear from the people. mercedes? >> the majority of americans do not agree with sanctuary cities. they don't agree. they believe it should be about

the protection of american citizens. we don't want to see illegal immigrants committing crimes on american citizens and those are the individuals who have to be deported. >> i don't think the polls show that, mercy, but i'll grant you the point. >> bill: i do too. have a great weekend, juan, thank you. thank you to you as well. shannon, what's next? >> shannon: steve bannon eking as one of the most influential voices in the trump administration. we'll see how's his time as a naval officer shaped his position in politics.

>> shannon: steve bannon becoming one of president trump's most trusted advisors during the first few months of

the administration. douglas has the story from new york. >> steve bannon's america first view's dominated the first few days. bannon may have gained inspiration from another nationali nationalistic president. on february 24, 1981 steve bannon just started a new job on the staff of chief of naval operations at the pentagon. the newly elected president ronald reagan gave a controversial nationalistic pro-military speech. >> it's time to show our pride and thank them. >> and sonny nas saw -- nasaw

was next to him. >> he did ship maintenance before becoming ship navigator. in fact bannon was at the helm as it companied the crew of the doomed rescue mission of the iranian hostage crisis. this was a symbol of military humiliation and some say it changed the way steve viewed president carter. >> very much so. steve lost confidence as a lot of the nation did. >> when he got back home and especially here at the pentagon his friends say he became more politically aware and politically engaged. so you ended up watching the presidential debate with carter that year? >> it was a point counterpoint and he was animated in the debate. >> the pentagon job required writing reports for the admiral about the state of the navy fleet and acquired big ambitions

telling friend pat mckim to be one day secretary of defense. >> i thought that was interesting because most guys who get out of the navy and become political ambitions would like to be the secretary of the navy not defense. >> he left the knave we -- navy with a drive to solve problems. >> that's correct. he left the navy armed with a strong education and a drive to get to the real problems on a variety of matters important to him. >> real problems and now has the power to address inside the world's most powerful house. that's it from here, shannon, back to you. >> shannon: all right, douglas. thank you so much. bill, listen, to me it's so much like the president in that it's a non-traditional way to get where he ended up and no matter how you feel about him. he served our country and it shaped his views and how he got

to the white house. >> bill: it's remarkable in the past six months how he's become a household name. shannon, thank you. let's get to this, almost top of the hour. there are major developments in the russia matter already today. michael flynn offers to testify before congress and his former boss, president trump has some advice on what he believes is happening in washington today. we'll tell you what that's all about. top of the hour as we roll on a friday morning from "america's newsroom." so you can travel the world better.

>> shannon: fox news confirmed white house officials gave the chairman of the house intelligence committee sensitive reports that could prove the president's claim the former administration was tracking his team. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm shannon bream in d.c. in for martha maccallum. >> bill: nice to see you. happy friday. from new york city the reports

show the president and his administration were swept up and they made hay of devin nunes on sharing the information before the house committee. what's the latest on the documents with surveillance, garrett? >> bill, the white house informed members of the house and senate intelligence committee they'll share that same evidence with all members of the committee. yesterday the member of the house intelligence committee adam schiff said he appreciates the white house doing this but has concerns the white house only offered to share the information on the day "the new york times" reported it came from two members of the white house staff. adam schiff appears to be

preparing and working on the having. he reached out to the white house and responded to their letter yesterday and said he hopes to receive the documents at their earliest convenience and said i trust your staff will fully work with our committee in ascertaining how the materials were found in the ordinary course of been and why such circuitous methods have been utilized. there's been concerns on devin nunes and his connect to the white house and that's still a concern going forward. >> bill: so where's the congressional investigation go from here? >> it still continues today. members of the senate and house intelligence committees are waiting to receive documents from the white house to see what exactly is there and if it warrants a lot of the hoopla we've seen in the last week. now, adam schiff is here continuing the investigation.

devin nunes the chair of the house intelligence is back in california meeting with constituents. >> bill: garrett tenney watching everything from the hallway there. thanks. >> shannon: mike flynn offering to testify in exchange for immunity. >> it's mysterious to me why general flynn is suddenly saying he wants immunity. a, i don't think congress should give him immunity and i don't believe the president should be weighing in on this. they're the ones that would prosecute something. i was critical of president obama weighing in ob the irs scandal before we had the facts and don't think president trump should be weighing in. >> shannon: chris stirewalt is

here to weigh in on this. we had the flynn attorney saying we had discussions but congress is usually hesitant to get involved when there's a federal investigation going on giving immunity. there's different kinds but they don't like to do it. >> there's two theories of the case we talked about the other day. either there was inappropriate relationship between kremlin and its agents and people on donald trump's campaign or people who worked in the obama national security apparatus tried to make it look like there was. either of those things would be a big honking deal. flynn's contacts with the russians and his enthusiasms for the russian geo-political stance were problematic throughout the process and there's a reason he got canned at the white house

and we found out later it wasn't just because he lied to mike pence and let mike pence go out on television and make a fool of himself but "the new york times" said that's the cover story. the problem with flynn is he's been problematic since basically the day he arrived mostly because of russia. flynn is trying to snitch and get a deal to say things that will be damning to his former colleagues and if he's an agreed party and perhaps a disgruntled former employee of the organization or does he have a great story to tell about making america great again and make sure no harm befalls him by vicious democrats or unscrupulous prosecutors as he tells the story of american greatness. >> shannon: it's linked and tied

together. the two people in the white house that touched the information may or may not have been the conduit to nunes. one is a flynn guy and apparently there was a concern in him remaining and when flynn stepped down he stayed after making an direct appeal to kushner and bannon and what does it say you still have a flynn protege and may have fed the information indirectly to nunes? >> flynn's footprint at the national security counsel and his legacy at the white house now does include this devin nunes mess. and basically what michael flynn has been is an area of opportunity for democrats since jump street. he's provided -- whether it was the stuff about the conspiracy theories with hillary clinton or

lock her up or whatever. now, of course, we have a guy who once said on television who people who get immunity are probably guilty and i'd say this and i want you to hear me, don't listen to people in politics when they talk about criminal law or investigations. they're talking about their own political interests fot the law. listen to shannon bream. >> shannon: well, i don't know about that but yes, any of us who make a statement like that or the guys in the midst of something that at that point was involving hillary clinton and her campaign, you know, i saw the montage of those being played back. now, the president has weighed in and said he should ask for immunity because it's essentially a witch hunt. listen, people were critical when president obama jumped into things when investigations were going on. what do you make of it? >> it's bad practice. you don't do it. i credit very much jason chaffetz. he has a hard line to walk. he hasn't landed every foot

squarely since the trump air but is trying to do -- era but trying to do it the right way and as head of the oversight he has to tell the president you're potentially going to mess up a criminal investigation of which you are a subject. as we saw with nunes you can besmirch and render toxic an investigatory space by going on with mud on the boots. democrats would take that point. he ought to listen to his fellow republican jason chaffetz and chill. >> shannon: we should all listen to chris stirewalt. good to see you. back to you in new york. >> bill: thank you. new signs the democratic fi firewall the confirmation of neil gorsuch could be cracking. two now say they'll vote in favor of the supreme court nominee. still their support may not be

enough to prevent a potential filibuster. republicans need 60 votes for that. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on the hill. can they get to 60? >> all indications is they need six more democrats to get on board. there's considerable pressure from the democratic base calling on their senators to fight on everything. the senate democratic leader is making this argument on judge gorsuch. >> if judge gorsuch fails to earn 60 votes and fail to demonstrate he's mainstream enough to sit and the highest court we should change the nominee not the rules. the republicans are the ones making the choice to go nuclear. this idea, oh, we have no choice -- they're free actors. >> democrats to watch are those in states where president trump won particularly those up for re-election next year. bill. >> bill: are there concerns about damaging the senate long

term if they change the rules which has never happened before. >> there are institutionalists concerned where all you need is simple majority support. john mccain is one of those institutionalists and having conversations to so-called nuclear option and with things so polarized he's not alone in trying to avoid a filibuster. >> it follows 200 years of tradition and you don't have to vote for him but allow them to vote. this would be history making. here's what i'd say to the american people it would be sad if a man of this quality could be denied an up or down vote. >> others saying judge gorsuch will be confirmed one way or another. all indications are at this point we're heading for a showdown next week ahead of the easter recess.

>> bill: could he be approved monday? >> it sounds more like a late week thing maybe friday before they split town. >> bill: thank you, mike emanuel the latest from the hill. thank you. >> shannon: president trump using twitter to take aim at members of the freedom caucus and even calling some by name. should he be trying to bring them into the fold instead. we'll speak to newt gingrich next. >> bill: and jeff sessions cracking down on sanctuary cities saying they'll face a high price. we'll debate. >> shannon: and giving up your seat to a member of the military seems honorable to me. not according to one college professor but he appeared on tucker carlson's show last night. >> a couple days ago you said some guy gave up his first-class seat for a uniformed soldier. people are thanking him.

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pence cast tie-breaking voe to cut funding to planned parenthood. close call after two republican senators decided with democrats against the measure approved in the house last month. it now moves to the president's

desk and expected to be signed. it would deny funds to planned parenthood and redirect funds to center don't perform abortions. >> bill: a professor criticized an act of kindness towards a u.s. soldier aboard an airplane tweeting, some guy just gave up his seat for a uniformed soldier. some people are thanking him and i'm trying not to vomit or yell about mosul. that tweet led to this exchange last night. >> i think it's irresponsible to support for example wars that send off young people into combat, risk their lives, kill many others as we saw in mosul, 200 people incinerated by u.s. bombs. >> you're blaming the soldier. you're saying giving up a seat for a soldier in uniform means you want to vomit. you're not saying giving up a seat for the guy who made the

war policy but for the war soldier the guy risking his life. why's that make you feel like throwing up? >> bill: bernie goldberg a fox news contributor. good morning, bernie. you lived through the '60s. you saw this repeatedly back then. can you make sense of the comment there? >> i can't make any sense of that. it's an important scientific point this guy helps us understand you can be a college professor and have a high i.q. and still be an idiot which he clearly is. during the vietnam era there were plenty of protests. fine, perfectly legitimate. but some anti-war protesters verbally assaulted soldier who just came back from vietnam. some there are reports spat on the soldiers. there there's one lesson

liberals learned is don't take it out on the troops. you don't like the policy, fine but don't take it out on the troops. >> bill: this is about the red, white and blue flags which was a stroke of brilliance by hillary clinton. the flags got the point. >> that is right. they got it point and most liberals i would say almost all liberals got the point. they understand that you don't disrespect the soldiers who went to fight if you don't like a policy. this man, his professor is unserious, he's unimportant and unfortunately i don't know which amendment it is but there's an amendment to the united states constitution that says you're allowed to be a moron and this guy clearly -- he is exercising his constitutional right. >> bill: i think it's ok to be anti-war but you don't take it out on the individual. you don't know the reason why he signed up and served and served

us. >> of course. of course. you think any person with half a brain would know that. this is not the only thing he's done that fits into the category of idiotic. at christmas time just a few months ago he put out a tweet that said all i want for christmas is white genocide. so he has more than political issues. he's got psychological issues. but i think you have a right to be stupid and i'm not calling for his dismissal yet. i want it know -- and i think this is very important, bill, i want to know where the president of drexel university and where the board of governors stands on this. i want to know where they draw the line? there must be a line some place. what if he'd tweeted at christmas time all i want for christmas is black genocide. would that be acceptable to the president of drexel university? this man is an embarrassment to

the school. the school doesn't have to fire him. they may say we have a wide range of opinions that we tolerate but tell us what don't you tolerate. >> bill: i guess the last point to be made here and we'll see whether or not drexel gives an answer on that but this professor called it an empty gesture. you've been on these flights. have you ever looked at that and considered that an empty question -- gesture when you think of the bruising after the vietnam war and then we were attacked on 9/11 and so many men and women signed up to serve and they realigned our national argument on the u.s. military. i'm sad in some circles we're still fighting that today. i'll give you the last word on that. >> first, it's not an empty gesture if he thinks that at his

view but i wonder if the professor would think it's an empty gesture if someone had a first-class seat and gave it up to a core black woman -- he brought up race, i didn't, by the way to a poor black woman in the middle seat on row 36. is that an empty gesture too? let me repeat something i said i'll be brief, he's unserious, unimportant and in a country of over 300 million people there'll be a few jerks and he's clearly one of them. >> bill: it's ok to be anti-war. don't take it out on the men and women. bernie, thank you. back to shan on. >> shannon: a top official sounding the alarm on tehran and he's sounding the alarm. >> bill: and the white house on immigration. get a listen here. >> the basic problem is in cities like chicago, new york,

los angeles, san francisco don't want to hold illegal aliens until ice pick them up and want to release them on bail or their own recognizance. that's dangerous.

rainfall in parts of australia and creating the chance for some to hang ten. wow. here's a group of surfers testing their skills. a jet skier got up in that somewhere. there were orders to evacuate but the flash flooding caused by a cyclone off the country's northeastern coast. go get 'em, wow. >> shannon: a top u.s. general raising concerns about iran

telling the lawmakers saying they present the biggest long-term threat to instability in the middle east. we're live from the pentagon. good important, lucas. i understand secretary mattis was asked about this. >> he was asked about comments made five years ago saying iran represented the biggest threat to the united states. he said when asked the three biggest threats were iran, iran and iran. >> at the time when i spoke about iran i was the commander of u.s. central command and that was the primary exporter of terrorism frankly. it was the primary state sponsor of terrorism and continues that kind of behavior today. >> days ago the u.s.s. george w. bush arrived to keep an eye on iran.

the head of u.s. central command said iran presents the biggest threat to the region operating in a gray zone short of open conflict. >> i think we need to look at opportunities where we can disrupt through military means or other means their activities. particularly their facilitation aspects here. i think we need to look at opportunities where we can expose and hold them accountable for the things they are doing. that has to be done. >> and general votel said iran's behavior has gotten worse since the deal reached with the obama administration. >> shannon: did they say anything about the activity between the two? >> he said iran and russia continue to work closely in syria to keep syrian president in power. >> we've seen russian jets come

out of iranian bases and to prop up the regime and give them new life is an implication of that relationship right there. i'm very concerned about that. >> iran is accused of killing hundreds of american troops in iran and they continue to fight shia backed militia which leads to questions to what comes after isis. >> shannon: lucas, thank you very much. >> bill: here's an important story too from atlanta. a tough road ahead for commuters in one of our busiest cities. there was a fire that broke out and took out part of a major interstate. it just dropped. how the city is coping with that nightmare and it will be around some time. >> shannon: and the battle over health care getting intense after the president's comments at the freedom caucus.

can they work together to repeal and replace obamacare. we'll speak to former house speaker newt gingrich. >> he is expressing his frustration. you all know he does that in various forms including twitter.

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shortcuts, nothing works. we just said pull over here and we're going to walk. we have about 4 miles to walk. >> we'll keep you updated with the very latest in that situation in atlanta. >> the president taking on members of the freedom caucus telling them to get on board or face the consequences. the opposition played a major role in the failed attempt of repeal or placement of care today. "did not vote for swamp care because it's another version of obamacare." with me now, former house speaker, newt gingrich. great to have you back on the program. i want to dissect this in a very straightforward way. it take it up to 35,000 feet. how do you believe the white house in the president manage this? >> first of all, they have to

look at the bigger picture and they have to find a way to get to a governing majority in the house and senate. i think it was a disaster in terms of popular support. at 70% of the country -- 17% of the country approved it. i don't think they can rush this through. it took ragan eight months to pass a tax cut. it took 18 months to pass welfare reform that was 90% approval. and it took pelosi and obama eight months to pass obamacare. slow down, take a deep breath, write a bill that works. he wrote a report that anthem is pulling out of obamacare. in rural america we should be able to write a bill that gets democrats to vote for it. they have to rethink what they're doing. having the start of this administration, and an ironic

way, having the people who are most prone trump and the people who are anti-trump are the ones who are on the other side now. >> adam king zinger, he filed an opinion piece. he said of the freedom caucus understood that last-minute demands would doom the bill, the bill would fail. this is a common tactic by the group. "what would be your advice to them? >> my advice to them would be to not play with the president. he's the guy they work for, he's still the guy they work for, so don't take the bait. focus on policy, focus on philosophy. offer better ideas. this is a legitimate healthy

argument. i don't mind a governing majority party who has different viewpoints inside the same part party. they ought to our get out on principle, philosophy, and see if we can't come to an agreemen agreement. >> it wasn't conservative enough for them, do you agree? >> it right. i think they have to say here's how we would solve the problem and take it to the country and see if people buy it. health care is every fifth dollar of the economy. it is life or death for every american. it deserves to be argued out in public, not somewhere in washington and secret, and we ought to have a real dialogue within our party. friendly, it ought to appeal to those democrats who recognize it obamacare is collapsing and see if we can't start building a bipartisan majority in favor of a better health system. >> let's talk about the surveillance story, the michael flynn matter, and what comes of that. can't believe strauss said the

following. "mr. nunez has seen proof that the incoming administration on subjects has had nothing to do with russia." all this debate about open hearings, closed hearings, what was seen, what was not seen, is that a possibility, if not that fact, about a crime? >> first of all, you have to subpoena and i would assume the trump white house would turn them over, all the obama administration records about these decisions. those are very strange decisions made early in january by the obama team. if they would allow gossip and things that were not proven to be spread widely within the intelligence community knowing they were likely to leak.

why was i decided, who made that decision? this stuff -- i write novels occasionally about terrorism -- this is beyond anything i could have put in a novel. it's so bizarre that you would have this going on right now. frankly, they probably need three or four parallel investigations. one into what happened in the white house, one into the whole process of relationships with russia, but if you're going to start going into relationships with russia, you should also be looking at the clinton's and all the different things that involve money with people who happen to be democrats. i think it's going to turn out to be the more we learn, the bigger the mess this becomes. >> if jeff sessions had not recused himself from all matters regarding russia, would this be different now? >> i don't think so. you have people who would go to the intelligence committee

because they want them to know what happened. sessions might have accelerated it some, but you have the professional fbi digging into this and you're really going to have months of investigation and frankly, they hearings are going to lead to information which will lead into more steps. i expect will be living with us for at least two years. >> devin nunes is on the screen right now. did he screw this up? >> i don't know. i don't quite know why he went on to the white house. he could clearly have handled it better. let's be clear. adam schiff, who is the democratic ranking member, is totally partisan in this idea that somehow nunes is different is phony. you have a senate of bipartisanship at the moment, these things tend to become very partisan. it's all being framed as

anti-republican. nobody has suggested that we go back and look at what happened with the clintons who had vastly greater dealings with russia then anything that was suggested about the trump team. somehow, we are supposed to be focused only on trump. i think you'll find the country does deserve to know, what is the kind of foreign influence peddling that affects our entire democracy? who does it? the chinese are frankly a much a part of this as russia. >> how do we track it? last question. the white house is apparently open now for adam schiff and others to look at the same evidence that nunes was shared days ago. what that calm things, would it change matters for schiff? >> it will change the argument. the democrats will come and say

it really is conclusive and they'll be bipartisan again. >> thank you. >> this is largely a partisan fight, not a national security fight. >> thanks for coming in today, see you next week. >> did you see this? bill o'reilly going off on sanctuary cities. >> if there is a federal detainer request on someone who should not be in the country, that request should be honored, is just common sense. the sanctuary city people say they want they wore it for illegal alien. that's a much more complicated process. >> our panel weighs in next with more from the talking points memo and what it means for cities or decide that they will comply with federal law. >> also, they call this guy the gator crusader. why he's diving with the reptiles. ♪

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>> the trump administration will not withhold money from them and the form of justice department grants. that means, cities like seattle which beefs up their law enforcement may no longer get that money. which is why seattle is suing. the whole thing is a giant mess and reflects the huge division in this country. will. will thinks you're a cities be forced to comply? doubtful, but they will pay a price. >> bill o'reilly sounding off on century cities last night saying that cities who defy the federal law and president trump may not be forced to comply, as you heard. they may pay a price. joining me now, marjorie clifto clifton, and charlie hurt. why shouldn't the city's comply? there are a they don't have to do, but if they have a criminal illegal alien in custody, they have to pick up the phone and let the feds no. why not? >> actually, federal law -- the

i.c.e. agents, actually provide a request. they are not breaking laws when they deny a detainer request. you have mayors and sheriffs were around the country and some of the most diversities in our country is a saying we know law enforcement and we know how to keep our communities safe. if anyone had a vested interest in making all city safe, it is low sheriffs. they need people running to them, not away from them. what this means is that they may require ice to provide a warrant like any other law enforcement agency would before they turn them over to the police. they are treating the undocumented in the same way they do any other citizen. that means they go to the court system, they look at the crimes they've committed. that's an important point you're making, that is that everyone

acknowledges that our immigration system is totally broken. we have a large community of undocumented, nobody really needs to know -- nobody really knows what to do with it. smart policing means focusing on crime and keeping these communities safe. which means targeting people who are violent criminals. these are smart policies by people who know them. >> the attorney general says we have laws, we would like to enforce them. there are local law enforcement officials who are tipping people off, he thinks there should be warrants for the people who are breaking federal laws. not the illegal immigrants, people who are harboring them. >> the argument that the system is broken, it is, but that is not a justification to do nothing about it. it's a justification to do more about it. one more glaring problem about

sanctuary cities is the fact that a lot of the federal money we're talking about is actually designed specifically to pay for housing illegals in these places. the idea that you're going to continue to take that money and then spring them as soon as you can is absurd. one final thing, i applaud the sudden interest in federalism, the problem is, they're not being genuine about it under the obama administration, the state of arizona attempted to begin enforcing immigration laws. the federal government stepped in and said no. not only are we not going to enforce these laws, you are not to either. the point i'm making here as patent -- >> how does that make sense? you and i can't do that. i don't want to pay taxes, but i do. >> the law says if you have a

warrant, you turn someone over. that's what the sheriff and the police department's are doing. the ice policy is a request. no laws are being broken. we look at playing politics, you're saying this is political, but you're seeing republicans and democrats alike who understand law enforcement who are on board of these policies in diversities. what's playing politics is taking the federal money away and those money are used for veteran programs, things that make community safer. the irony of taking away those monies, that are in place to keep communities a safer, to punish people who are, in fact, trying to keep their communities safe, mayors, sheriffs, people who actively participate in law enforcement, is really important. what i what i would like to see is dialogue. sitting down with people who have to enforce the law to understand the implication. >> let me point out that in this one massachusetts community where we have the state rep who said she was going to tip people

off on her facebook page, this is not too far outside of boston where they recently arrested 56 members of a gang that was here illegally. they were charged with things like attempted murder, murder, rape. why wouldn't we want to flush his people of our communities? >> we've had 30 years of dialogue. at the very least, we should be enforcing the laws and try to get a handle on the problem. >> which they are. >> are they? >> it is not against the law, they are request. >> we thank you both, happy friday. back to you in new york city. >> a historic debut for a groundbreaking spacecraft. this drawing comparisons to the wright brothers very first flight. we'll tell you why next. you always pay

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savings of $20 million. this contains all the big engines on most of the field which one year ago had launched a cargo ship and landed on space drone ship, proving once and for all that rockets can be rebooted and re-flown. >> it means you can fly and reply and orbit booster, which is the most expensive rocket. it's a huge revolution and spaceflight. >> this is a huge deal for the station -- space industry. it's no stretch from a wright brothers tight moment. this has never been done before. >> after the first separation last night, that rocket then landed on a drone ship, using a supersonic compulsion. they intend to use the same rocket again. >> i imagine a lot of people are

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