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justice department counterparts before making a decision. meanwhile, the media's coverage of the flynn news, breathless. >> overnight, president trump's former national security advisor mike flynn making headlines requesting immunity in exchange for testifying about his russian contacts. >> flynn wants a promise of legal protection before testifying about the trumpmp campaign and russian meddling in the election. >> michael flynn, who was ousted as president trump's national security advisor, is now offering to testify if he is given immunity from prosecution. >> jesse: and top democratic leaders are wasting no time using the flynn development to fuel more rank speculation against president trump. >> i just wonder what the russians have politically, personally, or financially onn president trump. because this is about a national security issue. why would the president of the united states for just come in and start to flirt with the idea of lifting sanctions on russia in terms of their behavior in

eastern europe? why would the president of the united states question the treaty?te why would the president of the united states put putin on a pedestal and diminish the greatness of america in that? there is something wrong with this picture. >> jesse: joining us now with reaction from washington, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union, along with former state department officiale david tafuri. matt, i will start with you. it seems like if the press had been as aggressive covering this irs scandal, i mean, they didn'i do anything about that. i mean, you had lois learner taking the fifth. people taking plea deals. and they didn't really care at all, but all of a sudden, you know, mike flynn makes a phone call, and, you know, all hell breaks loose. why is all of a sudden everybody in washington a investigative reporter? >> yeah. well, this is something you are going to have to learn, jesse, which is, republicans tend to be very careful and sheepish when it comes to going after

democrats for scandals and investigations. whereas democrats, i got to take my hat off to them. every moment of every day, they try to make every republican feel like they are a criminal.l. think about this case. mike flynn is the victim. he was unmasked. and he was -- and his identity was leaked to major news publications. and now it's the democrats saying somehow that mike flynn is the one who is the person whc has committed -- you know, has broken the law. it's ironic how they turn everything on its head. >> jesse: well, there is no evidence so far that has come out that he has broken any law. david, it seems to be funny that when hillary's associates all got immunity deals, and that was fine, but mike flynn casually asks for an immunity deal and all of the sudden the press brands him some criminal? don't you see a little bit of a double standard there? >> you know, this should not be

a democrat or republican thing. this should be something that all americans care about. you know, the framers of ourur constitution were really worried about interference by foreign governments. that's why they put in thehe constitution protection so that foreign governments couldn't interfere in our democracy. that's at base what happened here. russia interfered in our election. now, for matt to say that flynn is a victim is unbelievable. flynn has said he wants immunity from prosecution. i mean, he is suggesting that he has committed crime answered wants immunity. >> other people who have engaged from crime. that's why you ask for immunity. >> that's not true. >> jesse: if he was >> jesse: if he was unmasked, then he was a victim. that's hard to argue against. >> no.o. >> yes. you can't unmask someone. that's a criminal abuse of power. >> sorry, jesse, you are incorrect. >> jesse: no, i'm not. >> let me explain. if you are unmasked because you were in conversations with someone who was properly surveilled, like an agent of the russian government, which is l what happened here, that is not

improper. in fact, that's what the law requires. you unmask americans caught up in conversations. >> jesse: we don't know if he was unmasked appropriately and he was leaked to the mainstream media. >> he was leaked. that's exactly right. >> if he was leaked, then that may be a problem. >> jesse: if? if it was leaked? if it was leaked?ke it was leaked. matt, go ahead. >> it was leaked.. let me explain something. >> jesse: david, david, let matt finish. >> the reason he wants immunity and i would want it if i were him as well, is because this is how he has been treated by our government. they have already committedbe unlawful acts against him, and he has a story to tell.. in order to go to congress, he no longer has a trust factor with those who will be asking him the questions. and i don't blame him for having that lack of trust. and i think the american people would like some fairness here. >> jesse: david, let me -- >> matt, you are living in a fantasy world.iv

>> jesse: david, let me address that. >> ask for immunity committed a crime and you want protection against being prosecuted? >> you're wrong. >> if people leaked that information and that was classified information, we should go after them too. but we need to go after both the leakers and the people who were unmasked who improperly and potentially engaged in treason against our country by dealing with the russians in a way that hurts our country's interests. >> jesse: david, hold on a second. hold on a second. there is no evidence there is treason, number one.re number two, there is more evidence that the democratic party is in cahoots with the media and these leakers than there is evidence that trump was in cahoots with the russians. it's all smoke. no fire. and we haven't gotten to the bottom of any of this, and the media doesn't care about the fact that there is potential abuse of power that president obama and holdover officials might have surveilled a president-elect and thenid illegally unmasked him and then leaked classified information to the press. to me, that seems like the juicier story. and instead of covering that,

it's a process crime now about when the house intelligence committee went to the white house, when did he go?om who let him in? the real story to me seems to be the abuse of power. >> the story that american people care about is whether a foreign power engaged in interference in our democracy. that's the most important story. that's the real threat to america. >> jesse: david, how many votes did the russians change on election day? how many votes did they change?h >> all americans care about tha that. >> jesse: answer the question. >> david, how many votes did the russians change on november 8th? >> the point is that -- >> jesse: zero. >> zero. let me answer that, jesse. we don't know that. >> jesse: obama and intelligence officials said that in open testimony. >> that's right. >> jesse: i will give you the last word. >> let me just say real fast with this, if the russians tried to influence our elections. >> what do you mean if? i 17 intelligence agencies in america said they did. there is no if anymore, matt.

there is no if. a >> they tried to influence and destabilize america every day of the calendar year. do you know whose fault that is? siat is president obama's fault for leaving us vulnerable. let's really focus on what thesi investigations should be on, and it's obama's failure. >> jesse: that's a good point. it all happened under obama's watch.a' guys, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> jesse: next on "the rundown," whether the whether the obama administration tried to undermine the trump white house. we will take a look at that in a moment. no matter how dusty the room or how high the pollen count, flonase allergy relief keeps your eyes and nose clear. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances that cause nasal congestion and itchy, watery eyes. for relief beyond the nose. flonase.

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>> jesse: in the "impact segment" tonight, undermining president trump. amid the chaos surrounding the russia and wiretapping investigations, the white housea is trying to highlight what the outgoing obama administration may have done to undercut the trump team. >> i think that the revelations

of evelyn farkas, who played a senior role in the obama administration, going on the record to talk about how they politically used classified information is troubling. day by day, more and more, we are seeing that the substance of what we have been talking about continues to move exactly in the direction the president spoke about in terms of surveillance that occurred. and that should be very troubling. >> jesse: for context, these are the remarks made by that obama staffer earlier this month that sean spicer is referring to. >> i had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left. so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy that the trump folks if they found out how we knew what we knew about their -- the staff, the trump staff dealing with russians, that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence. so i became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open, and i knew that there was more. we have very good on russia. so then i had talked to some of

my former colleagues, and i knew that they were trying to also help get information to the h hill. >> a lot going on today. >> yeah. that's why you have the leaking. >> jesse: but in an interview with the daily caller yesterday, farkas said her comments have been misconstrued, stating that she was not in possession of intelligence about trump or his advisors and she did not share any documents with congress. joining us now with reaction from richmond, virginia, foxs news contributor charlie hurt. and from little rock, arkansas, general wesley clark, the former supreme allied commander of nato. so, general clark, boiling it down, what farkas admitted to was that obama intelligence officials gathered information about trump and conversations that he was having, squirreled those intelligence nuggets away, hiding them from the trump transition team. and then had people leak them, illegally leak them because it was classified, to members of

the media and democrats on capitol hill. does that bother you? >> well, honestly, i don't know what happened. i mean, i heard that statement. i saw stuff come out. but i also saw a lot of other things that confused me during that period. during that period, i saw president-elect trump -- it was as though he was already president. he was making statements. he was telling what he was going to do. he was trying to basically brush off the findings of the intelligence community that russia had interfered in the election. i mean, that was what stated. so i just think it is one of those ugly periods in the transition of presidential administrations. i think we ought to move on and put it behind us and look into the future. i mean, president trump has got some remarkable initiatives underway. some of them are very promisingd i'm really excited about the national association of manufacturers saying that their

sentiment is much higher, that they are going to invest more and create new jobs. i know foreign countries ares. going to invest here. i think that's all great. but i do think it's incumbent upon the american people and that congress and the executive branch and the federal bureau of investigation to get to the bottom of russia's interference in the election, because that's something that is unprecedented. never happened before. >> jesse: yes, in a way. >> and we need to know what happened because we believe in our electorate process. >> jesse: i think everybody wants to know what happened. right now, it looks like there is a lot of innuendo floating around. it's pretty irresponsible. i would also agree that it wasau an ugly period, that transition, because you had former administration officials actively undermining a president-elect. charlie, there seems to be more and more evidence piling up dayt after day that there was an aggressive campaign to undermine the president-elect. you have seen it in the "new york times." you've seen it by farkas.

this woman on msnbc. the leaks that have come out. there is a mounting evidence that this is happening. at what point does it become, you know what? this is the story now. not so-called weird connectionss between trump and russia. >> in the current media environment, i don't know thatro it ever -- that that ever occurs. but it is truly amazing because as we pointed out, there are all of these unanswered questions. in fact, they haven't even been asked yet about the efforts to undermine the incoming -- the transition team and the incoming new president. if, indeed, and there is evidence to suggest that it has happened, look -- you know, see mike flynn. if, in fact, that is what happened, all of this business about russian connections, murky connections that, by the way, that have been exhaustively researched and investigated for months now, we now know. none of that pales in comparison to the idea that you have the

most powerful espionage assets of the united states government being used by an administration to spy on a political opponent before, during, and after that political opponent wins the presidency.t that is -- that is, like, on the level of constitutional crisis. that is a big reason why we have seen so much sort of unusual activity with devin nunes goingg to the white house, going to the white house to see things, going to the white house to brief the president. it's because we have never been here before. and anybody who has seen movies like the edward snowden movie, you know, about all of the massive collection that goes ons anybody who has the slightest concern about that, they do care about this. t and they care about that a whole lot more than they care about russian connections. because this has to do with the integrity of our intelligence community and the ability of us to not be spied on by our own b government.

>> jesse: exactly. it's not just about the integrity of the election, which we know now was not rigged in trump's favor by the russians. it's about the abuse of power potentially by an administration against an incoming administration. general, real quick, just to wrap this up. the motivation, do you think, if indeed this did happen, is this just obama officials caught by surprise at the trump victory c and trying to salvage his legacy knowing they are shut out of power in the house, the senate, and the white house? i mean, that's got to be motivation if you were to speculate. >> there are so many things that you have covered here. that it is really difficult to take it apart. but let's put it this way. first of all, the russia connection has not been exhaustively investigated. secondly, that would be a constitutional crisis if we had an election system that a foreign power could come in and influence effectively.

that has not yet been exhaustively run down. every transition has its rough spots, and every transition is different than the other. i remember in the 1980 transition there were concerns that ronald reagan was undercutting the effort to get the hostages out of iran. but here's what's different about this transition. president-elect trump said hee didn't trust the intelligence community. and so next -- >> jesse: general, would you trust the intelligence community if they were potentially unmasking your associates and then leaking things to thema mainstream media?ki i wouldn't trust them. >> first of all, "the washington times" has lived off the leaks from the intelligence community. >> jesse: okay, but so has the "new york times" and so has "the washington post." and that's why they don't care. >> i believe in the men and

women that are serving our country. >> jesse: i do too. you have to admit. >> bottom of the russian connection first.se >> going on. >> i agree but it's about russia. >> jesse: up next, attorney general jeff sessions tells the factor he will aggressively go after leakers. but how? that debate right after this. wa that covers you part way, so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. tell you what, i'll give it to you for half off. and now we unleash it onwerful your taxes.pecies has created. hello my name is watson. yep. h&r block and ibm watson together. come see us and get your taxes won. you feel every mountain we've ever conquered. in our sports cars, you feel every podium we've ever climbed.

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>> jesse: in >> jesse: in the "unresolved problems" segment tonight, bringing leakers to justice. last night on "the factor," bill o'reilly pressed attorney general jeff sessions about the effort to hold leakers to account. >> bill: the leakers in the various agencies, federal agencies, you guys zeroing in on them? do you think you are going to have some indictments shortly? >> i expect that we'll get to the bottom of some of this. this is not right.t. we've never seen this kind of leaking. we've never seen -- it's almost as if people think they have a right to violate the law.

and this has got to end. and probably will take somean convictions to put an ends to p it. >> bill: do you foresee indictments shortly? >> well, i won't predict that. i would just say that i take that very seriously. >> jesse: joining us now to analyze from palm springs, california, ric grenell, former u.s. spokesman at the u.n., f and from washington, democratic strategist richard goodstein. rick, i'm sick and tired of hearing the trump administration vowing to go after leakers. they have been doing it since january, february. l now it's the end of march. when are they going to get a leaker and get an indictment and make an example out of someone? because it's going to continue if it doesn't happen. >> yeah. look, we're in a crisis mode here. we have -- the intelligence community has been permeated by partisans on both sides. let's be very honest. both sides are guilty. they were leaking to the media to make president obama look

good. now the others are trying to leak to make president trump look bad. we've got to stop this.. this is serious. and i think what the attorneyy general has to do is go after the supply, not the demand. and what i mean by that is, go i after the leakers who promised to hold intel close and not share it. when they do share it, they're breaking the law. we should not go after journalists. they are the ones who receive the information, and there is nothing wrong with that. that's their job. i wouldn't prosecute any journalists. and by the way, that means the media are not going to help us highlight the leakers. they're going to do everything they can to keep that supply coming. so it's really important that the government crack down, find the leakers, which they can easily do. you can figure out who pulled up that intel. who prints it. who pushes it out. and they should find that outou and prosecute that person and those individuals to the fullest extent of the law immediately. >> jesse: i'm glad you don't

want to throw journalists in jail.m that warms my heart. richard, don't you think that the obama people are setting a very dangerous precedent here? that in transitions of power which are supposed to be peaceful, if you are leaving behind, you know, antagonist holdovers and people willing to break the law and leak classified information to undermine a president-elect? i mean, it was one thing for clinton people to rip a w off a keyboard in 2001. but this is serious stuff. don't you agree?t >> yeah. jesse, the trump campaign had leak problems. his speech at the republican convention was leaked out. do you think that was obama holdovers? look, anybody who -- >> jesse: what speech was leaked out beforehand? i think they released excerptstd to the media beforehand so we can tease it up. >> to your viewers, google

"trump campaign" and "leaks" an> see what i'm talking about. it's not just something that they put out voluntarily, okay. >> jesse: okay. >> the fact of the matter is, trump could have fired every single "holdover" that he wanted and i will say this, this whole focus on is the single biggest misdirection in america. >> jesse: you said something i just want to address it. you are saying thatt president trump knows who is leaking and is refusing to fire them? is that what you are saying? >> i'm saying this leak investigation talk is the single biggest misdirection ever because what we have on one hand is 17 intelligence agencies saying the russians subverted u.s. democracy. you had trump -- >> jesse: whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not what they said. how did they subvert the democracy? w did any vote change? no. >> no. listen, if it didn't matter, why would donald trump 100 times on the stump say how he loved wikileaks? julian assange was reviled. l.>> jesse: because it was juic. everybody loved hearing about chelsea not getting along with everybody.

rick, let me ask you a quick question, because we are kind of tight for time. the democrats have no power. the house, the senate, the white house, it's all republican now. it seems to me that these leakers are now teaming up with the press. they're the official democratic party opposition now. >> yeah.h. look, i think that it's a big problem. i want to go back to the point though that anyone who leaks is breaking the law. and richard should not minimize that. mock that or ridicule that. that is a breaking of the law. you may benefit as a democratit from some these leaks. it's a slippery slope when the republicans then take over the intel agencies and they start leaking. i want to stop all of these leaks. >> the fact is these leakers -- >> i don't know. >> jesse: didn't i indict hillary for obvious transgressions? listen, guys, we have got to pay some bills. we will get you back next time.

thank you veryex much. >> see you. >> jesse: coming up, president trump going after the house freedom caucus. how will his heavy-handed approach impact the agenda? right back with it. ... to stop the burn of frequent heartburn... all day and night. have we seen them before? banish the burn with nexium 24hr.

>> jesse: in the personal story segment tonight, president trump versus the >> jesse: in the "personal story" segment tonight, president trump versus the house freedom caucus. the president is now threatenind to fight the group that helped sink the republican healthcare bill last week.

and he is promising to take on its members in the 2018 midterms. but the freedom caucus and its allies are not backing down. >> the freedom caucus is doing what's best for america. they're very principled and honorable men. and i think that we're trying to also let republicans know that if we pass something bad, if insurance rates are going up at 20%, 25% a year from now, after republicans have taken ownership of healthcare, that won't be good for the party. >> jesse: some conservative political observers don't think the president's battle with the caucus is good for the partyat either. >> i think it is really, really unhelpful to donald trump's ultimate agenda to slam the very people who are going to be propping up his border wall. you know, all the things he wants to do on immigration, on trade. o >> jesse: joining us now to analyze from washington, to weigh in, lena epstein, former co-chair for the trump campaign in michigan along with

republican strategist rina shah. principles, i guess let obamacare live. >> oh, come on. you guess? obamacare has to live on right now because there was no thoughtful, nicely well done approach to dismantling it. this was hard and fast. it was going to be rammed down the throats of the representatives. you know what? frankly, it was the best thing paul ryan did to cancel that vote. >> jesse: so you believe keeping obamacare in place is a positive thing, even though if it's going to happen for the next year oren possibly two? >> for now it is, because there hasn't been a proper approach to really fixing the issues. middle-class families have suffered under obamacare. i get it. i know so. they see rising premiums. we have so much to tackle.to it can't be done in the middle of the night and done with ultimatums issued from the white house. >> jesse: i understand. lena, when you talk about blame to go around. it wasn't just the freedom caucus.

the white house messed it up. paul ryan messed it up. they didn't have a bill that satisfied everybody. they rushed it through and they had to pull it because it wasn't ready.ut everybody shares out blame, not just the freedom caucus here, correct? >> i couldn't disagree more. i think that good rhetoric does not always translate into good policy. and a lot of folks on the campaign trail made promises to their constituents that didn't have a legislative path when it comes to healthcare. that's not president trump's fault. i think he did a very brave and by postponing the bill. but i think in the end, we will be judged as a party on our ability to come together. there is no such thing, rina, as ctrfection in this system. it is highly, highly imperfect. we have americans with very, very differing needs when it come to healthcare. it's going to be messy. >> thoughtful and methodical is. >> we are going to have to come together, and i understando behind president trump and his efforts to do so.

>> jesse: rina, let me asking you question. if trump is now going to target them and say, we are going to get behind a primary opponent. if the primary opponent then runs against this freedom caucus guy saying, my opponent allowed obamacare to live, do you think that's going to be effective? yes or no?e >> look, the reality is how are they going to find primary challengers more conservative than these people already? i mean, this is about 40 peoplei in the house right now. they change from people like mark sanford in south carolina to mo brooks over down south. we see southern members, right? there are moderates who hated what was going on with this aca as well. this is uniformly disliked.. 17% of americans, and we have heard the stat over and over, did not like this americanca healthcare act. thoughtful and methodical is the key here. >> right.im

>> does nothing for him. >> maybe it was a good thing for this bill to go down. only 17% of the country liked it. hindsight is 20/20. >> in the end, nobody will get elected in a conservative position without a solid healthcare reform. the president needs to be on the side of the party. >> jesse: now we can watch it go down the toilet.ds thank you guys very much. >> thank you. >> jesse: directly ahead on the special edition of the "the factor" ," the battle with evangelists, for defying immigration law? stay tuned. the # 1 dry mouth brand recommended by dentists. biotene. for people who suffer from a dry mouth. ♪ at crowne plaza we know business travel isn't just business. there's this. 'a bit of this. why not? your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. which is what we do. crowne plaza. we're all business, mostly.

♪ >> "the o'reilly factor," the number one cable news show for 16 years and counting. >> jesse: thank you for staying with us for this very special edition ofry "the o'reilly factor," america divided. i'm jesse watters in for bill o'reilly. and in the "factor follow-up" segment tonight, punishing sanctuary cities. last night on "the factor," bill o'reilly explained why he thinks is what is going to come down for jurisdiction defying the federal government. >> bill: to make sanctuary cities comply with federal law, the trump administration will now withhold money from them in the form of justice department grants. that means cities like seattle, which received millions of dollars to beef up local law enforcement and institute safety programs, may no longer get that

money, which is why seattle is suing. whole thing is a giant mess and reflects the huge division in this country. will sanctuary cities be forced to comply? doubtful, but they will pay a price. >> jesse: the trumpn administration isn't alone in taking a hard line on sanctuary cities. texas governor greg abbott is preparing one of the harshest crackdowns in the country. >> we have been pushing a piece of legislation in texas that is going to pass that i will be signing into law that imposes even sterner penalties on counties. it will include things such as further defunding them. it will impose fines and could impose jail time for these sheriffs to enforce the laws. oddly enough, these sheriffs could wind up behind the very bars they're releasing these criminals from. >> jesse: joining us now from washington with reaction,hi alfonso aguilar, the president of the latino partnership for conservatives. and from los angeles radio talk

show host ethan bearman. so, ethan, if the job of a sheriff is to keep people in jail, and then the sheriff releases people from jail, isn't that basically aiding and abetting a prison escape? >> well, i mean, if he is releasing them when he doesn't have proper dispensation to do h so, such as somebody hasn't served their time or whatever else, but the sheriff does not have to do the job of i.c.e. and it's actually very funny to listen to conservatives on this one, because it was their very own beloved justice antonin scalia who wrote the majority opinion in 1997 in prince v. united states that says the federal government in no way can force sheriffs to do the work of the federal government. >> jesse: but that is not what is happening in texas. the governor, a state official, is telling a local official what to do. the feds don't have anything to do with that, so that analogy is bogus. alfonso, if the law enforcement community was refusing to

enforce laws on abortion or guns or drugs, there would be a huge uproar, don't you think? >> i think so. and, look, this issue is being politicized. this is common sense. i agree with president trump and governor abbott. what they are trying to do, what they are trying to tell local law enforcement, if they detain somebody who has a criminal serious record, they should refer him to federalco authorities. why would anyone be against that? i don't know.? look what happened to kate steinle. this guy had a serious criminald record.io he was a felon. and the san francisco police department refused to hand over this individual to federal authorities. that's ridiculous.o so i believe that we have to be very strong. we want to get criminals out. and i don't know why wouldt. anyone would oppose that.

>> jesse: ethan, why do you oppose keeping criminal illegal aliens in prison? >> i don't. and actually you are completely misrepresenting exactly what happened with the kate steinle case. that isn't what happened. they didn't refuse to keep him in prison. they released him when the court ordered them to release him. >> jesse: no, that is not what happened. i.c.e. tried to slap a detainer on him and keep him there so they could then detain him and issue deportation proceedings. >> justice scalia said -- >> jesse: they defied that order and let him out.ut that's what happened in san francisco and that's why kate steinle is dead. >> they don't have to listen to> the federal government. they don't have to do the federal government's job. >> jesse: that's not what scalia is about. if greg abbott wants to crack down on sheriffs letting illegals out --

>> ethan is not answering the question. why don't you want local police, state police, to refer individuals with serious criminal records to federalvi authorities? what is the problem with that? why is that such a big issue? we should be united on this issue. i don't understand, why such an issue for you? >> jesse: ethan, 15 seconds. last word. go ahead. >> i don't have an issue with referring violent criminals to federal authorities for deportation. but that's not generally what is going on. we have very specific individual examples that we're talking about. but overall, you're talkingha about differnt things. greg abbott of course has control over sheriffs. >> jesse: ethan, if it were your daughter, i think you would have a different opinion about sanctuary cities. we have got to run. as a reminder, don't forget tost pick up bill's book "old school: life in the sane lane." best seller. available online and in stores now. factor podcast with robert samuel. lf f bill o'reilly himself is the

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>> jesse: in the back of the book segment tonight, the biggest story of the week there were quite a few to choose from. last week we asked bob cusack of the hill newspaper and aaron >> jesse: in the "back of the book" segment tonight, the biggest story of the week, there were quite a few to choose from. last week we asked bob cusack of "the hill" newspaper and aaron pike of the independent journal review to make theirre predictions. they are back tonight and joining us from washington. erin, let's start with you. what did you predict and what did you think the biggest story was going to be? >> well, i predicted that it would be the investigation from the house and senate intelligence committees, and i

think i was right about that. i think everything that happened peth devin nunes -- [applause] >> oh, you are clapping, thank you. i can't even keep straight what happened last week with what happened this week at this point. so much is happening every single day. i think mike flynn obviously last night that report that froe the "wall street journal" that he was going to seek immunity to testify was going to overtake nunes. all part of the same story. who know what is is going toex come out next week. that took up so much of the oxygen this week every single day at the white house briefing and really topped all the newscasts. >> jesse: i'm surprised trump didn't tweet something out that was totally off the reservation to throw everybody off that story line. bob, what did you predict? d and were you right or not? >> surprisingly, i'm going to say i was right. i predicted there would be fallout from the lack of passing the obamacare bill last week. and the party would be divided and here we -- speaking of

tweeting. president trump tweeting at the freedom caucus. there is all this tension. we don't know what they're going to do next. k a lot of drama. i agree with erin, the intel story was big. now it's the agenda. y what goes on.. it's a show. >> jesse: you believe the agenda has ground to a halt, and you think that was the biggest story this week, the obamacare fallout, because every time i turned on the tv it was about this intelligence fiasco. you know, it's funny that it's now become a process story and the press is so concerned about the integrity of this investigation. i do remember when the state department investigated the benghazi scandal and they never even interviewed hillary clinton. and that investigation was supposed to be the most perfect investigation of all time. but now, all the sudden, nunes is a bad guy. doesn't seem to be completely honest, what's going on in the press corps. >> well, i think some of the coverage of the intel situation

has been overkill. i do think -- but this intel world, we don't know really what's going on. that's why the investigations are ongoing. and the fbi doesn't actually, when they're interviewing people, they don't record it, which i found very odd when the fbi interviewed hillary clinton in 2016. so i think sometimes you can't trust what we're watching on television. >> jesse: except when you watch "the factor." >> of course.he of course. >> jesse: erin, quickly, right now, every time i look at the news, it is, where did nunes go? did he go to the white house? did they let him into the white house? what does it mean? why do we care? >> that is something that sean spicer was trying to get't into today, that the dates don't matter and the process doesn't matter and who let him in doesn't matter. it's the substance. we don't know what the substance even is. we think that is a big deal too. right now you have the white house saying that the incidental collection of these other names and unmasking of

these names is a bigger story than russia potentially tampering with the election. so we are not even getting into the substance of those two stories because we are so focused on these processes. i will say to bob's point -- >> jesse: yeah, quickly. >> healthcare coming off the agenda is a big story because, also, the russia investigation is taking over everything on the agenda. they can't get to tax reform as quickly as they like and infrastructure. >> jesse: i feel like i'm livine in moscow every time i turn on the television. stick around. when we return after a quick break, we want to talk aboutut what's going to happen next week, and they're going to make some predictions.

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ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. >> jesse: continuing >> continuing down from washington, let's preview the big week ahead. what do you see is the big story next week? >> without a doubt, it is chineset president visiting president trump at mar-a-lago and part of the reason for that

is it is so unclear of what the administration's messaging and strategy toward china is. i said that in part because you see president trump taking swats at china on his twitter feed were as when rex tiller's and visited china two weeks ago, he talked about a relationship based on mutual respect and cooperation. when i talk to him, he really wants to have a very friendly, cordial relationship with china and turn them from arrival into an ally. i don't think that's what we're hearing from donald trump so who knows how this visit is going to go. if >> what do you think he's going to serve sheesh and paying at mar-a-lago. >>la i have no idea, please lete know. this big are they going to play golf with mark what are they going to do? >> he sure does like to play golf, doesn't he? he did play golf when he hosted sheds are lame. it may to do.

it >> excellent pronunciation what do you see the big story next weekend? >> i think there are so many leaks about the intel andbi russia, also this big question about michael flynn, will he be granted immunity. i think that's going to be the big story heading into next week. the question is kennett devin nunes survive? every day there seemsms to be, republicans are backing him except for the congressman from north carolina, he says he's not ons' his side. the g.o.p. is standing behind him and that means he probably will survive unless something new comes out. >> why can't he just say no i'm not going to step down? no one is forcing him to step down. >> you can't unless the speaker, they want to focus on policy and it's very difficult to do so right now. >> republicans and capitol hill usually do cave to pressure from

democrats or the media, so i will predicted that he's probably going to have to step down because these guys never stand tall when stuff hits the fan. i do want to pitch tomorrow and lago, i want to be covering the summit and what they're doing, what they'reey eating. i'm very fascinated with that diplomacy. what do you think it'sci good to come out of that realma quickly, erin. >> honestly sean spicer asked today why hasn't donald trump labeled china a currency manipulator as he planned to do right after taking office? i don't have anything to tell you that. >> he's going to say you are a currency manipulator, now let's go to the auction. before we go, quick reminder, watch a an all new waters world,

bill o'reilly stops everything, he is doing just to watch it on saturdays you should too. thanks for watching a special edition of the factor, he'll be back monday, always remember i am waters and this is my world. >> tucker: the left is on the attack this evening, across the country they're demanding that immigration law no longer apply in schools, hospitals, or churches. meanwhile a college student was published by a professor using the m word, mankind. first in washington, democrats continuing to pound on the house intelligence chairman devin nunes, accusing him of being aoc stooge, white house press secretary at sean spicer blasted