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deployed. apparently immigration law is something to be enforced rather than ignored. it pays off. that's it for us. hannity is up next. see you tomorrow night. >> sean: welcome to hannity. we'll check in with laura ingram, senator rand paul will join us. first susan rice now responding to the bombshell reports that exposed that she is the obama administration official who requested that the names of trump transition team members who were caught up in surveillance be unmasked. now, tonight we'll expose the obama administration's sabotage and that is tonight's very important opening monologue. we want to take you through this step by step because it's a huge
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scandal. it started last month. remember, president trump sent out a tweet accusing the obama administration of is your veil lens during the election. since then we've been peeling away all the layers of the president's team with the help of the investigative reporting from people like sara carter and john solomon. now, first sara and john uncovered the existence of an fbi investigation into a server being utilized at trump tower. they also discovered that an fisa warrant that allowed federal officials to capture trump team communications existed prior to the president taking office. then they revealed that high ranking officials with direct access to president obama may have had access to unmasked federal surveillance of trump transition team members. this is all very important. and they may have briefed the president about this information. then on march 22nd, house intel committee chairman devin nunes revealed he had seen reports that proved that president trump and members of his transition
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team were, in fact, unmasked and that the intel had nothing to do with russia. now, last week we also uncovered video from march 2nd. dr. evelyn farkus served in the obama administration only until 2015, encouraging her former colleagues and people on the hill, get as much intelligence as they can about the trump team before they leave office. watch this. >> i was urging my former colleagues and frankly speaking the people on the hill. it was more actually aimed at telling the hill people, get as much information as you can. get as much intelligence as you can before president obama leaves the administration because i had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left. it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy that the trump folk, if they found out how we knew what we knew ab the trump staff dealing with russians, that they would try to compromise those
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sources, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence. so i became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and i knew that there was more. we have very good intelligence on russia. so then i had talked to some of my former colleagues and i knew they were trying to help get information to the hill. >> sean: they knew how we knew what we knew. dr. farkas was admitting, what? surveillance took place of the trump transition team. that there was unmasking of names. there was also talk about leaking the information which would be a felony. farkas then walked back the comments the day after we played them on this show, but the tape does not lie. that's not all. earlier today bright bart news unearthed a video from october 2016. here's dr. farkas where she even predicted the impeachment of trump if elected. how would she possibly think this? watch this. >> if donald trump were elected, i believe he would be impeached pretty quickly or somebody else
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would have to take over government. i'm not even joking. >> sean: what intelligence did she have to back that up? yesterday we had multiple reports that revealed that obama's national security adviser, susan rice, she was requesting that members of the trump transition team, their names be unmasked in raw intelligence reports. now today during an interview, she denied those claims. shocking. watch this. >> there were occasions when i would receive a report in which a u.s. person was referred to. name not provided. just u.s. person. and sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out or request the information as to who that official was. >> within the con tech of the trump campaign, the trump transition, did you seek the names of people involved in -- did you unmask the names of
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people involved in the trump transition, the trump campaign, people surrounding the president-elect in order to spy on them? >> absolutely not for any political purposes, to spy, expose, anything. >> sean: so that's today. just two weeks ago susan rice was on pbs and she said, quote, she knew nothing ab any kind of unmasking. watch this. >> i began by asking about the allegations levelled today by house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes that trump transition officials, including the president, may have been swept up in surveillance of foreigners at the end of the obama administration. >> i know nothing about this. i was surprised to see reports from chairman nunes on that count today. >> sean: today she knows everything, but two weeks ago, i don't know anything about this. that sounds like a lie to me. shockingly, andrea mitchell didn't ask susan rice about that complete and total reversal.
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in other words, lie. but now that she is caught, of course, susan rice is changing her tune. now remember, susan rice has a history of this. she flat out lied to the faces of the american people about the issue of the ben ghazi terror attack. she went on five different sunday shows. this was 2012. you may remember. >> what sparked the recent violence was the airing on the internet of a very hateful, very offensive video. it began spontaneously in ben ghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo where, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. what happened in benghazi was a spontaneous reaction to what just transpired hours earlier before in cairo. what happened this week in cairo, in benghazi and many parts of the region was a
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result, a direct result of a heinous and offensive video -- >> sean: history of lying, complete 180 in just two short week. now some on capitol hill are trying to get the truth of what actually happened with the surveillance of donald trump and his team. rand paul wants susan rice to testify before congress and under oath. rice, when asked about this today, she's not exactly jumping at the request. what a shock. take a look. >> rand paul is suggesting that you be subpoenaed to testify. would you be willing to go to capitol hill? >> you know, andrea, let's see what comes. i'm not going to, you know, sit here and prejudge. >> sean: she's clearly dodging. but more congress men on the hill are calling for her to testify. it needs to be under oath. later tonight we're going to expose how the alt left trump media is doing everything they can to bury this incredible
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story. the moment this scandal was unmasked, the media is trying to change the subject, destroy anybody and everybody connected to it. that's what they tried to do to congressman devin nunes. adam schiff on the intel committee has seen the same surveillance and, guess what? all of a sudden his grandstanding, it all stopped. in fact, listen to what he said this weekend when asked about if there was a connection between president trump and russia. >> can you say definitivety that there was collusion, there were people affiliated with the trump campaign who are working with russians to time the release of damaging information about hillary clinton that had been hacked either from john podesta or the dnc? >> i don't think we can say anything definitively at this point. we are still at the very early stage of the investigation. >> sean: yeah, for the past eight months. we're in the early stages of the investigation. with help of the all left
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propaganda destroy trump media, they've been trying everything they can do to find proof that president trump and his campaign were cluing with russia. yet there's no evidence after eight long months. the big question is this. did president obama and his administration knowingly surveil on either incoming president or an opposition party candidate? americans tonight are demanding answers to those questions and we here on hannity will demand those as well until we get them. joining us now jay secula, host of justice with janine piro and the host of you are the jury. so, i am trying to lay the history out here. give me any scenario under which susan rice, national security adviser, would specifically request raw intelligence unmasking, let's say the intelligence was legitimate against russia, china, iran, doesn't matter. americans are caught up in a
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call. there's no warrant to listen to them. it's supposed to be minimized. their names aren't ever supposed to be revealed. >> right. >> sean: so why is she unmasking those names? >> the issue she has to be asked under oath. your ability to connect the dots is worthy of a veteran prosecutor. but there's another -- i'm really impressed. but there's another piece to it. whenever any witness takes the stand and that witness has a history of being a liar. >> sean: like her. >> susan rice has been with respect to benghazi, with bergdahl serving with honor and distinction, then a jury can take anything that she says with less than a grain of salt. >> sean: look at the contradiction from two weeks ago. >> any judge would say to a jury in coming to the truth, this is not a person that you can really rely on. so the question we have to ask is, who put her up to it? why did she do it? did obama know about it? >> sean: who did she share it
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with? >> who did she share it with? is she the one who gave it to "the washington post?" this woman has to be put under oath. if they can do it to a president-elect, they're doing it to us all the time. >> sean: jay? >> well, look, i think there's a couple things here. susan rice is like the liar in chief here. she would pass a lie detector test. she's telling so many stories, she can't tell one from another. here's the most significant aspect of this. what she said to andrea mitchell was not a denial of the unmasking. she did not deny the unmarvinging. >> sean: she actually acknowledged it. >> exactly. >> sean: she admits the unmasking of michael flynn. >> so then you look at what laws are being implicated here. there are multiple felony counts. let me give you one simple one. if she put this in motion, and this is what everybody needs to understand. but for susan rice unmasking this, if she didn't do this,
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none of this would have happened. she did it. she put this whole issue in play. if she was working with others, knowing that they were going to distribute it, that's a conspiracy under the espionage statute. so it's very, very serious. i'll tell you something. she's sending out tweets. she's sending this information out. she needs to hire a really good criminal defense lawyer really quickly. because i think she's in serious trouble. >> sean: she admitted the pace increased after the election. and then -- this is more interesting. she admits the unmasking of general flynn took place, but she said it wasn't political. >> how could it not be political? of course it was. look. judge knows that she's a judge. i have tried a lot of cases, for over 37 years. you look at the timeline. as the intelligence increased against the president and his associates, what starts to happen? it becomes more frequent.
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this wasn't an incidental accident, i want to know who usa one is, u.s. person one. it's president trump or president-elect trump at that point or one of his associates. but then she wants more. as it gets closer, it's more. here's the political question. why are we saying it's okay to be spying on -- i don't want to even call it surveillance. spying. >> it's not okay. you've got the making of a false statement, espionage, violation of the fisa act. what's significant here is the fact that if obama knew about all this, nobody seems to care. this goes right to the timeline until it looked like oh my god, they're taking him seriously, now what we need to do, we got to get the dirt. we got to pass it around. that's when they started. >> sean: the bottom line here, under the guise of national security, if they're unmasking only the conversations with trump or trump transition team members or then candidate trump's team, that was
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specifically designed for political purposes. having nothing to do with national security. >> that's what dr. farkas was doing, too. you've done a great job of laying this out. dr. farkas who, by the way, also should be getting a criminal defense lawyer. what she said was in essence very clearly, she said it. we wanted to get this information out. she's talking to former colleagues. how is she getting that information? >> who is we? who is part of the conspiracy now? they're acting in furtherance of the conspiracy. do you know what? i can do this. >> sean: i have got to say one last thing. for anybody to see this information, you gotta know, they have to go into a very secure area. every sinle search they made is monitored. there is a fingerprint left behind. >> that's why congressman schiff is quiet. he saw the data. he shut up.
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>> sean: thank you. more on the spying on the trump campaign. we'll get reaction from laura ingram. that's left. the alt left trump media, they are distorting these explosive report, covering for the obama administration and covering for susan rice. we'll get reaction tonight. then later senator rand paul, who wants to put susan right under oath will be here also. [ ominous music ] [ sniffs ] little girl: daddy! trapped by your unrelenting nasal allergies? [ meow ] [ sneezes ] try clarispray clarispray provides unsurpassed relief. it's 24 hour, non-drowsy and prescription strength. free yourself with clarispray, from the makers of claritin. hi! hey! i've made plans for later in case this date doesn't go well. same here. wouldn't it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi double cash card does. earn 1% cash back when you buy, and 1% as you pay.
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>> sean: welcome back. there are still many questions that need to be answered about the surveillance of president trump, candidate trump and his transition team. the big question is this. did a sitting president and his administration knowingly surveil a presidential candidate. joining us laura ingram is back. you know, could you imagine the media, by the way, ignoring this story if it was trump as president and his team surveiling obama coming into office? what the media reaction would be? that's point one. >> it would be watergate times ten. there would be people staked out at the brookings institution where susan rice has a cushy
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job. they would be at her house. they'd find her. if the shoe were on other foot, there wouldn't be this appalling lack of curiosity on the part of the main stream media about what was going on here. who directed her to do this? this was just a random thing she was thinking because, what, donald trump's name was mentioned in some intercept? i mean, donald trump's name would have been named in hundreds, if not thousands, of foreign intercepts. she just happened to choose these ones? the whole thing stinks to high heaven. >> sean: let me ask this question. is there any scenario that you can think of, i'm asking you to put your legal hat on, whereby susan rice would ever need to unmask a trump transition team member or either candidate trump or president elect trump? any scenario that you could, in your wildest imagination, imagine that that could happen?
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>> i would think, sean, it would on be if there were some time of imminent threat to the united states of america. a direct tie or close tie to a terrorist organization, terrorist entity, someone with known connections to terror. maybe under those circumstances. but i got off the phone with two former cia officials right before i came on with you. both of them, they don't even know each other. but both of them said that her comment that, well, when i see something interesting, basically i ask for more information. both of them said that's just not how it works. you have to have a specific reason for pulling the identity of an american that's caught up in one of these webs. she gave the scenario of the american bomb maker. that's obviously not what was going on here. >> sean: my understanding and the intelligence sources that i have tell me that for you to
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even view this raw intelligence information, number one it has to be in a secure area. number two, you have to sign in. number three there's a record of everything you had. >> it cannot be verbal. it can never be verbal. >> sean: was there really a spread sheet? there will be a record of every single time she ever asked to unmask anybody in raw intelligence. correct? >> yes. >> sean: so if she only did it in the case of trump, wouldn't that basically be case closed? you're only doing it for political reasons? >> it would seem to be defacto evidence that there was a phreut dahl motive here. we don't know. there's a lot that we don't know here. it's hard to believe that susan rice was acting alone here. >> sean: no way. >> she wasn't acting alone when she sold that story after benghazi. it all smells. and we know that if the shoe were on the other foot, the
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democrats would be screaming for full accountability, immediate testimony on capitol hill. >> sean: do you get the sense that this was orchestrated sabotage of either a candidate, an opposition party candidate, and a president-elect? then we'll come on the other side and get more detail. >> the fact that she initially denied it and then in her response today to andrea mitchell gave a double negative. she said she leaked nothing to nobody. well, she went to harvard. she knows that's a double negative so that means the affirmative. i'm nit picking here. >> sean: she did admit the unmasking of michael flynn but not for political purposes. >> she said she didn't leak it either. >> sean: somebody did. that's a felony. for with laura ingram, we con our investigation. let's look at the destroy trump media doing all they can to put their spin on this or just not cover it at all.
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their influence. the attack killed at least 58 people including 11 children. senator jeff murphy of oregon is planning to speak all night in a last ditch effort to derail neil gorsuch. democrats may have enough to block him. and arrests at the u.s./mexico border hitting a seven year low. john kelly credits president trump for that. due to a tougher stance on illegal immigration, less people want to make the risky trek to the u.s. now back to hannity. for all your headlines log on to fox news.com. >> sean: here's, in my mind, where this is going. that we have incidental intelligence supposedly, but we're using national security as
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an ruse to get the trump surveillance. in other words, there was an orchestrated effort to surveil candidate trump and president-elect trump and his transition team and unmask them, and in the case of general flynn, leak the intelligence. is there any other plausible theory, hypothesis you have short of that? >> the veneer of incidental coverage here seems filmsy. sources i have talked to say that doesn't matter. they say it was incidental. makes it sound like it was nothing. you still have to go through the normal protocol in order to unmask these individuals. you can't do it in pick and choose and try to troll the raw data and the raw files for any more sell you think might implicate trump or any associates in the future. again, when you are an out going administration after a really tough election battle and the partisanship and the rancor and
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animosity was as high as it was from the obama to trump and vice versa, and with susan rice's old history on benghazi. the fact that she wassen going to get confirmed. she was never going to be confirmed. that's why they put her at the national security council. all of this adds up to an murky scenario. we need to know more information. i don't think it stops at susan rice. focusing on rice may be the wrong path way. >> sean: but standard operating procedure according to every single intel source i have would require that if it was incidental that minimumization occur. they don't reveal the name of the american. they don't unmask the american. certainly you don't leak the name, leak the intelligence which, by the way, is raw intelligence, otherwise you are violating any sense of privacy. you used the term early on. that would make america a policed state. correct? >> that's a felony. there is a written record.
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no one from the it community, intelligence community, would ever do the unmasking an give that information on a verbal order. it just doesn't happen. there have to be written protocols that are followed. they have to be there somewhere whether in a ledger or some other log. and claiming executive privilege would indicate to me that the president spoke to susan rice. so we'll see if she claims executive privilege. >> sean: two weeks ago she had no idea any of this happened. >> no knowledge, sean. >> sean: i don't even know what you're talking about. just like evelyn farkas. very interesting to see people walk things back. >> she pulled a sergeant schultz. >> sean: thanks, laura. you're aging us, by the way. coming up, the alt left propaganda is putting their spin on these explosive reports about susan rice. we'll get reaction.
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officials. cnn last night began the show defending susan rice. take a look. >> there is no evidence whatsoever that the trump team surveiled or spied on illegally. there's no evidence that backs up the president's original claim. on this program tonight, we will not insult your intelligence by pretending otherwise. nor will we aid and abet the people trying to misinform you, the american people, by creating a diversion. not gonna do it. >> sean: don, there's no evidence of collusion between the russians and the trump campaign and you guys have been harping on that conspiracy for eight months. abc and nbc, they didn't even mention this explosive story in their evening news programs. cbs news did address the reports, but they were defending rice. watch this. >> we've learned more today about the president's allegation that he and his aides were caught up in obama era surveillance. what did you find out today. >> welsh as national skur
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adviser to the president, susan rice could and did request the names of individuals who were picked up during legal surveillance of foreign nationals. however, rice did not spread the information according to this former official who insisted that there was nothing improper or political involved. >> sean: probably talked to rice's mom. how else do you get that report? here to offer up the smear how shady political operatives and fake news control what you see, what you think, how you vote. sharyl atkinson, so all right. for eight months the news media, same people we know colluded with the clinton campaign during the election, they have been running wild with a russia trump campaign conspiracy story. there's no evidence to date that i have seen. if you have seen it, share it with us. imagine if this was donald trump an he's leaving office and in
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the process of him leaving office, donald trump sets in motion a way to surveil the incoming president or then candidate of the opposition party. do you think the news media would be treating it the same as they're doing it now? >> i don't. i agree. i haven't seen evidence of russia collusion with the trump campaign and i have spoken to former top obama intel officials who say they haven't seen evidence of that either. i do think there's a very different treatment by the knew media in general by the two allegations, one of which seems to have no public evidence to prove it. the other, the discussion that's happening now about susan rice, does seem to have at least some credible evidence that you can check out behind it and yet is being treated with some skepticism. couldn't possibly be true or that there couldn't possibly be anything wrong with it.
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>> sean: we know surveillance takes place. incidental, perhaps. surveillance did take place. now, she didn't even deny in the interviews today. susan rice, media seems to have amnesia. didn't know anything about this. she revealed in this interview today that and unmasking of trump officials did take place. she defended it and said i didn't leak the information. just because she said so doesn't make it true. she did spread a lie about benghazi on five separate morning showing. >> the obama administration. i think if you look back this is my opinion based on the evidence, involves surveillance whether it's journalists and other people that occurred under the obama administration maybe occurred under other administrations as well.
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i think if you put it all together on a timeline it starts to paint a picture instead of isolated events and accusation, a pattern of behavior. >> sean: i think sharyl is referring to james rosen, referring to what happened with tea party groups and the irs. and we have an admission. why would she specifically seek out raw intelligence of whether or not it was legal surveillance, incidental pickups of trump an his transition team or his campaign. and why would she want an unmasking of those individuals for what possible reason, other than being political? >> yeah. look, the national skur adviser does have the ability to request an unmasking of a name. they get intelligence tphf, name is redacted, you don't see it. and they begin to say, hey, i need to know who this person is in order to implement some sort of policy. the problem here, sean, is that
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susan rice did this specifically just for trump officials. she did it during the transition. she did it with high frequency all the way through the transition after trump was elected. and then she wisely disseminated the unmasked name. that's where i think she got caught. >> sean: wouldn't that be a felony at that point? >> well, she released these names to other people at the state department who had clearances so that wouldn't be illegal to do that. but the only reason to unmask a name is so that you can see it and decide, hey, do i need to do something with this, implement some sort of strategy or tell someone else. to have the name unmasked and then widely disseminated to other people inside the state department, that is pure politics. there is no question in my mind and others in the state
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department who believe that this information was widely disseminated so that it would be leaked. and as we know, someone did leak it. susan rice claims that she didn't leak it. but it just doesn't hold water for someone so political like susan rice, who's been caught too many times spinning to widely disseminate an unmasked name. there is no reason to widely disseminate that, and she did. and the people at the state department began to say, wait a minute, why are we getting this unmasked name? there's no reason for it. >> sean: to get to this raw intelligence, there is a record every time you go into a secure area. there would be a record of every single thing that she was looking for and saw. correct? >> absolutely. when she opens up a cable, if she forwards that information, if she prints it, it's all recorded. there is a long list of that. we can tell exactly who received this information of an unmasked name. they could go back and find it. it will be difficult to find who leaked it, but we will know who
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was widely on that list and received the unmasked name. this is a political problem for her. clearly doing it during the transition indicates that she was doing this against her political enemy and, to me we've got to get to the bottom of it. rand paul is right about an investigation. >> sean: basically sharyl, we're talking about spying on an incoming president under the guise of national intelligence. that, to me, i can't think of any possible scenario why this information would have been unmasked or revealed. i just can't. except for political purposes. >> intelligence officials under the obama administration that i was in contact with alerted me a couple years ago in relation to my own computer intrusion case, that they felt there was a lot of mischief going on inside intel agencies. intelligence was being used in a way they said it never had been before. and they were extremely concerned about the patterns
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they saw. >> sean: i remember that, too. all right. i think this is gonna grow and grow and is going to be smoking guns coming from it. when we come back senator rand paul. he wants susan rice to be called in front of congress to testify under oath. and rice, by the way, was earlier asked about i. she dodged the question. we'll show her her answer and get reaction from the kentucky senator straight ahead. thank you! imagine if the things you bought every day earned you miles to get to the places you really want to go. with the united mileageplus explorer card, you'll get a free checked bag, 2 united club passes... priority boarding... and 50,000 bonus miles. everything you need for an unforgettable vacation. the united mileageplus explorer card. imagine where it will take you.
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>> sean: welcome back. yesterday, in the wake of the reports that obama's former national security adviser, susan rice, unmasked the names of trump transition team members. senator rand paul said that rice should testify under oath before congress today. susan rice was asked about this during her interview. course on the ever so loving msnbc. take a look. >> rand paul is suggesting you be subpoenaed to testify. would you be willing to go to capitol hill? >> andrea, let's see what comes. i'm not going to, you know, sit here and prejudge. but what i will say is that the investigations that are underway as to the russian involvement in our electoral process are very important, very serious, and
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every american ought to have an interest in those investigations going wherever the evidence indicates they should. i have an interest in that as an american citizen. i would want to be helpful in that process if i could. >> sean: reaction. that was a nice pivot on her part to talk about russia. we've had eight months of conspiracy, no evidence at all. but she contradicted what she said two weeks ago. i don't know anything about this. she's unmasking the identities of americans caught up in incidental intelligence gathering and unmasking who these people are. >> i didn't get a yes or no. the question i would ask susan rice before congress, did you discuss with the president that you were unmasking trump transition officials? in what role would it ever have been appropriate for white house
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staff, white house political staff to be unmasking conversations, highly classified and private conversations with trump, general flynn and others. i see no world in which that would be appropriate. she needs to be made to answer for this. this is not a benign thing but an it gives a black eye to the entire intelligence community if they're gathering up these private conversation and is there going to be released to the media? this is a big deal and we need to get to the bottom of it. >> sean: i agree. i'm thinking they used the ruse of this is legitimate intelligence gathering but seems to real intelligence gathering was spying on trump and spying on then candidate trump and then president elect trump. it went on for a long time. >> there really is no discuss. andrew mccarthy talks about, who are the investigative arms?
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if someone were investigating a russian time, would it be the white house doing the investigation? would bit susan rice job? no, it would be the fbi, the nsa or the cia, but it would in no world be susan rice's job. so i think it's pretty important that we understand that millions of americans are caught up in this web of intelligence collection. millions of americans' phone calls are caught up. we can't allow them to look at americans' phone calls without a warrant just because they disagree with us politically. this is very, very dangerous to our republic. >> sean: i really agree. because the issue of privacy. then america becomes a police state. if private confidential information is being revealed and unmasked and leaked, then there is no such thing as privacy. >> i have been asking for reforms to this for a long time. these are the back door searchs many of us are concerned about. there need to be reforms. if they are listening to a
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conversation with another branch of government, the legislative branch, they need to hang up. they need to not be eves it's not that they shouldn't just unmask our conversation. the executive branch should not be allowed to eves drop on the legislative branch's phone calls. >> sean: you met with the president, played golf with him over the weekend. from my secret sources you had a meeting of minds on a lot of issues involving health care. by all accounts, it seems like those negotiations are continuing in the house and will obviously move to the senate. how do you feel about the chances of getting to the repeal, replace position that you want to be in. >> when i sit down with the president i feel we have a kinship and understand each other. we are different individuals. we haven't been in the same place on this health care bill. but i do think he wants the same thing that i want. and that is that we want to repeal obama care. this is united republicans for
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six years. the initial bill did not do that. i think the bill is getting closer. i think we should thank the house freedom caucus for actually not bowing down and taking any old bill. the house freedom caucus has taken a lot of barbs, but they're making the bill better. so i think there's a chance that we can get to a good bill, but we should thank the house freedom caucus for that. >> sean: you and i agree on that. i think they were unfairly maligned. there seems to be a middle ground an needle that's being thread. i'm hoping we get there. senator, good to see you. thanks for the voice. >> thanks. >> sean: up next, we need your help. very important question of the day has toe do with susan rice. we want you to weigh in. that's next. success has always been measured in zeros. but shouldn't it be about firsts? and seconds... how about adding a third? we think there's a bajillion ways to measure success.
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877-225-8587. that's all the time we have left this evening. as always, thanks for being with us. see you back here tomorrow nigh night. ♪ >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight. >> i leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would. >> bill: former national security advisor under o president obama susan rice denied any wrongdoing in surveying donald trump and his associates. however, fox news is reporting that ambassador rice was deeplyru involved. we will give you the facts tonight. >> the facts will come out with susan rice but i think she ought to be under subpoena. she should be asked, did you talk to the president about it? >> bill: senator paul referring to president obama. that's where republicans want to take the trump surveillancerr situation. we'll have information on that scenario. >> [chanting] >> bill: also ahead california moves a step closer to declaring sanctuary for illegal aliens statewide.
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