we have desserts. >> congratulations on your book. >> 42faith.com. >> now you are cooking. >> go to priceless.com. >> biggest story of the day, i got a compliment from sandra lee. >> bill: confirming the midnight oil trying to replace 'obamacare,' vice president, top officials holding a late night meeting on the hill with conservatives that derailed the first health care plan. can they agree on something that can win enough votes, big question. it is wednesday, i am bill hemmer. how are you doing? >> it is sort of like an iceberg. that is the base, i am shane na in for martha maccallum. vice president mike pence. >> i think at this point it is

too early to talk about the win right now we are actually having good conversations among differing opinions within our conference. that is a huge win in that we are having substantial policy debates. >> bill: chief white house correspondent john, good morning. narrow down the main topics in this meeting, what were they? >> let me set the stage, vice president along with the secretary of hhs, met with the house freedom caucus, republican study committee, tuesday group, big topic of conversation absolute necessity to lower premiums. conservatives believe the first act that department get to a vote, american health care act didn't do enough to lower premiums and talk on high risk

pools, what to do about preexisting conditions, proposal would take guarantees of coverage for preexisting coverage out of the federal act and give states the option to figure out the coverage however best suits them initially there was optimism. house freedom caucus says that isn't looking possible. >> i think to suggest we can't get it done by the end of the week would be premature. i talk to the president this afternoon, they want to get this done as quickly as possible on behalf of the american people. >> vice president has a lot of

credibility, opposed to the original bill now indicating they could sign on to what is being talked about. here is head of the group david mcintosh. >> speaker ryan hasn't agreed to the deal. we are ready to support it, bill. >> are you on the same side as mike pence at the moment? >> yes, yes, sir i am. good proposal. >> talked about getting rid of coverage for people in preexisting conditions is spooking some moderates they might lose more votes. they are still working. >> bill: a lot of math. king of abdula of jordan. >> familiar figure around the white house. recently hosted an arab conference in which the offer to

israel to recognize the jewish state in exchange for palastinian state renewed. fight against terrorism, isis and what is going on in syria. big visit is tomorrow when the chinese president visits president trump. we were told by briefers the president wanted a more informal setting as did the chinese. the chinese like the more informal settings. when they visited president bush, they did it at a ranch in crawford. >> bill: someone banging a drum. >> he has been doing it 365 days. >> bill: thanks, john. >> set to begin 1:10 eastern time at the white house.

fox news is going to bring it to you live over on the digital side, live blogging the entire news conference, go to foxnews.com to check it out. all of this is happening days before president trump hosted the president of china. official in the trump administration remarking that the clock has run out on the regime. fox news pentagon producer lucas. hi lucas. >> hi shannon. fox news learned the pentagon is assessing north korea missile launch was likely a failure and could be an old skud and not the advanced land based submarine launched missile north korea launched back in february. what is more that ballistic

missile launched in february when president trump hosted shin ta in florida. they thought that north korean missile was advanced korean missile. reaction from trump administration in a terse 23-word statement, secretary of state made it clear, trump administration moving in a new direction, north korea launched another missile. united states has spoken enough about north korea. we have no further comment. united states hopes china will play a bigger role and china opposes a missile system, deescalation on the peninsula calling on all sides involved to do anything they can to deescalate, shannon, pentagon continues to see signs, north

korea is preparing for sixth nuclear test after two successful tests last year, expect north korea can be on the top of the agenda when trump meets with the chinese in florida. north korea loves to conduct the tests around major events. >> yes, they do. lucas, thank you. >> bill: chris, good morning to you, >> good morning, bill. >> bill: we have been led to believe the policy under this administration will be different, will it? >> based on secretary tillerson's statement, it is bound to be. we keep hearing all options on the table. number of options left on the table is few. that is not to say the united states is about to undertake a military intervention. you would think this is

president trump tell thing chinese you do something about this, or we will. >> bill: we have no further comment that is from tillerson. come back home, all the talks about health care, going some where or not, chris? is it just talk or perhaps necessary? >> when the white house said you pass trump care on the first go around or you are stuck with 'obamacare,' there were a lot of republicans relieved. they want this to pass from their lips. whatever they do is bound to be unpopular with a substantial amount of people. this is a tough, tough area when it comes to domestic policy. not a lot of good answers when it comes to holding down premiums for people in the insurance market without costs go up or break the budget. they are not in possession of a bunch of good options. if they can get something together, it will take time, politically costly and painful.

>> bill: last comment on that, you can thread the needle with the conservatives against you three weeks ago. only to the extent you don't tick off enough moderates. >> that is tricky and there comes the math. when failure is in congress, if they can drop the ball, they will definitely try to do it. >> bill: thanks, chris. reverend, nice to see you. we are going to talk to kevin brady. see where they are behind closed doors. >> that deadline they have coming is no joke. you worry about momentum, do they get something done? unlikely but not impossible. >> bill: recess coming up. >> yes, eastern passover in two weeks. fox news alert. democratic senator speaking in opposition to supreme court nominee gorsuch.

i think the count is at 10 hours. it is not technically a filibuster coming up with senate judiciary chairman chuck grassly. plus this. >> allegation is that some how obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that is absolutely false. >> bill: this story seems to be changing by the day, susan rice saying politics played no role in the unmasking of trump officials, is that the case? did anyone else inside the white house know about the unmask? will rice be forced to testify before congress? congress congressman peter king is our guest next to answer all those questions and more. >> donald trump's name would have been mentioned in thousands of foreign intercepts, she just

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joplin, that is the site of ef 5 tornado that killed 150 people. did you seek the names of people involved in -- to unmask the people involved in the trump campaign? people surrounding the trump elect in order to spy? >> absolutely not. >> did you leak the name of mike flynn? >> never have, never would. >> bill: we'll play that for you in a moment, susan rice denying politics played a role in the names caught up in surveillance. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell says we are going to

investigate. >> we are looking forward to receiving a report. >> bill: that is clear. sir, good morning to you. this story took a bit of a twist, what is your question, sir about all this? >> obviously, these are allegations, seem to be credible considering the informed sources. certainly adds a dimension to what devin nunes talks about, surveillance coming from the trump transition. it could involve people in the white house. susan rice said issue knew nothing and didn't deny involvement. she said she wasn't doing it for spying purposes. i don't know what she would be doing acting as a cop or fbi

agent. that is not her job. her job so to coordinate policy. >> bill: is there something that would explain that? >> i don't see an explanation. it is important she definitely be a witness when the intelligence hearings are held. she was back on in 2012, it was a video that caused the benghazi later on saying bergdahl had an outstanding record in the military. she is not known for credibility. >> bill: this clip is from pbs two weeks ago today when she was asked about nunes and his investigation? >> i know nothing about this. i was surprised to see reports from chairman nunes on that count today. i really don't know to what chairman nunes was referring.

he said it was a legal, lawful surveillance. and that it was incidental collection. >> bill: make sense of that, she says she knows nothing of this. that was two weeks ago. then the segment from yesterday, sir. >> obviously she knew an awful lot and put an explanation of her own spin and mischaracterizing what devin nunes said. it was ether illegal or contrary to all policy. any investigation picked up on an american coming from a warrant like that, that name has to be blacked out, masked. susan rice, was unmasking then and having it distributed. this raises so many serious questions. there isn't trivial, petty, this goes to the heart of the right

of the american's privacy. >> libertarians argue this is why they want to get rid of fiza. it was changed considerably after 9/11. whole idea was to spy on terrorists plotting attacks in the homeland. now the way this shapes up, you have leading administration officials who can get names of everyday americans then you are left to question: what do you do with those names? what do you do with those conversations and topics of discussion? seems this debate is going to be thrown wide open, sir? >> i strongly support fiza. i believed it saved us from terroristic attack that being said, should show weakness. >> bill: if you are using it for reverse surveillance, you are right. last question, you talked about

her testifying, she was asked that question by andrea mitchell yesterday and chose not to answer it directly. will that happen or will she just plead the fifth? >> certain she will be invited. if she refuses she could be subpoenaed. if she take it is fifth amendment, that raises the level. person that that level that knows nothing and now knows little, it certainly shows how serious these allegations are. >> bill: there is a long way to go, would you agree? >> i don't want to prejudge this, i am not going to prejudge susan rice. >> >> bill: what did trump do with russia? >> he was in collusion with russia, that is the allegation. as far as i can see, no evidence

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attack rising to 72. president trump responding today's attack against innocent people including women and children is reprehensible. these actions by the assad regime is weakness. what is the international reaction to this attack. >> hi, shannon. not surprisingly, widespread condemnati condemnation. at a conference in brussels, representatives from several countries held a moment of silence for the victims. both french and german leaders called this a war crime. iran condemned it. this conference was originally

scheduled for syrian peace process. this was a reminder of the six-year war far from over now. world health organization expressed alarm too at the suspected use of chemical weapons calling use intolerable behavior and concern about the limited medical facilities to treat the patients effected by this attack. u.n. security council will be holding an emergency session later today to discussion response, shannon. >> shannon: have we learned new details about exactly what happened? >> few more details have come out. interesting to listen to the british secretary. he said this attack came directly from the assad regime. russia says it is trying to shift the blame to rebel forces saying it believes they have been stock piling toxic

chemicals. world health organization said the victims show symptoms -- did drop syrian gas in an air strike. at least 70 people died in the attack. details still emerge, what is important to find out who is responsible. u.n. has already launched an investigation. >> shannon: we'll keep a close eye on them. thank you very much. >> bill: vice president mike pence looking for common ground in a late night meeting on the hill. congressman kevin brady in that room and our guest next to tell us what went on. also remember this video? those are isis terrorist weaponizing drones overseas.

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>> bill: fox alert from the hill, homeland security secretary john. dhs reports people arrested people sneaking from mexico into the u.s. drops to the lowest. secretary kelly giving credit to trump for aggressive stance on illegals. 9:31 now. >> shannon: vice president pence looking to broker a deal on health care. republicans met late overnight on a measure that repeals 'obamacare.' chair of the house freedom

caucus said it was productive. >> i think to suggest we can't get it done by the end of the week would be premature. i think the vice president's personal commitment, i talked to the president this afternoon as well, they want to get this done as quickly as possible. >> i am optimistic we'll spend several hours tomorrow hopefully reaching some kind of consensus. >> shannon: congressman kevin brady, republican from texas was in that meeting. congressman, you are chairman of the ways and means committee which has a big stake. let's talk about the things on the table. framework for state waivers, let them go to the government and say we don't want to require all the insurance companies to akwar all the benefits, they would have to prove if they were going to get the waiver, it would lower premiums, where are we on that? >> first of all, positive

meeting. thoughtful discussion on how we can keep improving the bill. first focus, can you lower premiums over the next several years for those trapped in 'obamacare'? good ways, beyond that, can you preserve patient protections but give states more accountability on how they design it to lower health care costs. every state is unique. that is where most of the discussion was. we didn't get into the specifics necessarily or reach a conclusi conclusion. sort of identified a host today and tomorrow and see if we can't explore that further. >> can you give us a hint to a timeline? good things to say, nothing was agreed to on principle, haven't seen legislative text. you are looking at a barrel for a two-week recess for eastern

passover. >> i think consensus ought to drive the timetable. no need to rush. let's work through the policy and politics and get through the weird senate rules that dictate most of health care unfortunately. let's do it right. this is really important especially when you are dealing with how can you lower health care cost for americans, those trapped in 'obamacare' and those freeing from 'obamacare' in the future. >> shannon: you mentioned the senate rules, you can't do anything that would add to the deficit. senate can't touch these things if they turned out to be non fiscal in nature. how worried are you about running that mace in the senate and if it makes it there, comes back to the house in a format that wouldn't get approval. >> there is no question,

shannon, this would reduce the deficit, continue to make this a fiscally responsible bill. secondly, look to senate rules hard to interpret from the house side. it is important to deliver the best to the senate and so they control rules, let's take this step by step. let's deliver the very best products. just remember, in the bill, already two of the biggest entitlement reforms in history plus defunding of planned parenthood and ending using tax dollars, tax credits for health insurance plans. major conservative wins already. this is all about lowering health care costs in the future. >> shannon: what about critics those with preexisting conditions wouldn't be covered by the law in a way insurance companies would have to

guarantee the coverage, would it be a fatal blow for people who say we shouldn't be discussing that? >> republicans and president ran on preexisting illnesses and students staying on their parent's insurance until 26, if your child gets a costly illness in youth, they are covered for life. we are looking at how states can apply for innovative health care that they know lowers health care cost. that is the discussion. it is a healthy one >> shannon: preexisting conditions on the table? >> in my view, that will remain a basic patient protection. we ran on that issue as republicans, president did as well. >> shannon: how is it inside those meetings? how did it go? >> look, it was, shannon, if you

were in that meeting and your viewers, i think you would have been impressed at the thoughtful approach, obviously vice president pence sets the perfect tone. mark walker who leads the republican committee pulled the effort together. it was a substantive discussion, exactly what you would hope lawmakers would talk about. i am not going to set high expectations. i think continuing this discussion in a positive way, if there is a way to get to yes, this will be the approach. >> shannon: so you are saying there is a chance, all right. chairman, brady, thank you, sir. >> thank you, shannon. >> bill: i think it is interesting, they were about 90%. your question is appropriate, too, you get the more conservative members, what

happens to the moderates? >> shannon: continues behind closed doors. not mincing words, first lady lady melania, monday the white house releasing first lady sporting a blazer. she looks great in that picture. >> she never not looks great, right. >> bill: this is great. >> shannon: there will be designers that want to dress her. couldn't have a better model. free country, free universe if you don't want to dress her. >> bill: great picture.

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>> when it comes to susan rice, verify, trust. when it comes to ben roads, verify, not trust. i know both very well. wouldn't surprise me if somebody in the obama administration like

susan rice would do this. i am not going to prejudge. i intend to find out. >> bill: susan rice insists politics had nothing to do with it. who else knew and was president obama kept in the loop? howard dean campaign manager in l.a. brad blakeman, gentleman, good day to both of you. how do you view 24 hours after she admitted she saw the names? >> we know true to form, susan rice said she didn't know what was being talked about with unmasking and finally admitted she unmasked the names and did it routinely so she could

at if she was looking at the names for intelligent reasons, did somebody leak them there were leaks on both sides including leaking her. let's figure out what is going on here. the only way we are going to get to the bottom of this, the

russian-trump connections is an independent 9/11 commission. i think, look, exonerate anybody being falsely accused, somebody is. >> bill: you may get hearings before that happens. brad, listening to a lot of people speak over the last 24 hours, they suggest on the inside this happens all the time. does it happen all the time? >> it does not happen all the time. >> bill: should it happen all the time? >> no. there is reason why we have protections for american citizens, those protections have top upheld. there is no good reasons to release names. they were incidental to the foreign surveillance of russians that is clear. one thing is sure. a crime is committed classified information is released where americans were unmasked. who had the opportunity, intent and access? >> bill: you have susan, rice,

right. hang on, joe. i'll get to you. who else is in that circle? >> ben roads. >> bill: is it the president? president obama? >> i think there is no doubt the president was aware of the content of the intelligence briefings. surely, even for gossip. question is, what was done after the information was known? >> bill: joe? >> brad, there is a difference between unmasking and leaking. they are not the same thing. she was the national security adviser at the time we know, now 17 intelligence agencies say that the russians were trying to influence and impact our election. if this critical point with national security and rigussian actively impacting our election.

she is wanting to know if an american, who that is. she is a national security adviser, she should do that. >> bill: apparently based on the early reporting, they increased for names after the election. then you ask yourself, well, what were they thinking about? why in the second week of january did the white house allow this information to go out to 16 or 17 different agencies in washington? why did that happen? >> i think those are all great questions. an independent prosecutor, here is why, no one is going to believe nunes, intelligence chairman chief, no one will believe if he exonerates flynn and finds problems with obamas national security adviser. republicans will believe.

>> bill: brad, it strikes you on the outside thinking obama team saw something, they were fishy, suspicious and pursued it. it led to this. >> i think was a pattern of vindictiveness and trying to figure a way to embarrass trump. i am not letting the people behind me off the hook. they were elected by the people to perform these duties, they have a constitutional responsibility, let them do their work. >> bill: joe, you have a problem? >> nunes messed it up. no one will see him as bipartisan. >> bill: so far he isn't going anywhere. >> that is the whole problem and need an independent prosecutor. >> bill: we shall see. thank you, fellas. >> sure, bill. >> shannon: with just one click,

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went down south of washington national harbor. pilot has apparently ejected from the war plane. they are setting up a perimeter around a wooded area we believe the plane landed in. again the pentagon not able to confirm. they are scrambling to try to get more details about the f-16 that has apparently crashed not far from where we are. also close to andrews air force base that is where numerous f-16s and f-15s are located as well as air force one this belongs to d.c. national guard. we'll let you know as soon as we know more, shannon. >> shannon: this is where the president often travels in and out of. we have a lot of foreign leaders, this is an entry and exit point as well, correct? >> absolutely.

very significant air base, when we travel with the defense secretary or white house pool traveling with the president, that is where we fly from. there are f-16s based on an eight minute alert cycle, that is post 9/11. they were put on the alert cycle in order to patrol up and down the east coast of the united states. it is not clear at this point in time what this f-16 was doing, weather it was a training mission or what may have happened. we can confirm from the u.s. air force that an f-16 jet fighter crashed south of washington national harbor, not far. we understand the pilot, shannon, has ejected. it is not clear again where that pilot is at this point. >> shannon: we have seen local reports, they actually witnessed this and did see the pilot eject

and often times there is a good ending. we await now. that is not uncommon in these practices, either. >> that group we have traveled with, flown up to new york, circled statute of liberty. these are the jet fighters, homeland security relies on to patrol or again be on alert in the event there is an unusual incident put into place after 9/11. we are getting more details, u.s. air force confirming an f-16 went down not far from andrews air force base. >> bill: other big story what happened in north korea overnight. this ballistic missile launch in international waters. big meeting tomorrow with president and china in florida.

what is the president doing in terms of assessing this latest missile test? >> according to the latest assessment, north korean missile launch deem add ed a failure. it went 40 miles, didn't reach japanese waters. may have pin wheeled in flight. north korean missile might not be the land version it launched in february when president trump hosted the japanese prime minister in florida. pentagon officials think it may have been a skud missile. secretary of state issued a terse 23-word statement, quote, north korea launched another missile. united states has spoken enough about north korea, we have no further comment. issue, bill is likely to be at the top of the agenda as the

president meets with the president of china in florida. >> bill: we'll come back on the f-16, thanks from the pentagon there. >> shannon: holding things up on the senate floor staging an all nighter, jeff merkley speaking all night. senate majority mitch mcconnell taking the first step, something john mccain is call ago slippery slope. mcconnell says democrats broke the rules first. >> fair ly recent thing to filibuster, broke the rules of the senate as you indicated four years ago to lower to threshold for everything except the supreme court.

all we'll do is even that up. >> shannon: iowa republican chuck grassly chairman of the judiciary committee. your friend across the aisle, joe mansion didn't agree with what the democrats did in 2013 when they started this process of launching nuclear option back then but says two wrongs don't make a right. your thought? >> my thought 211 years there had never been filibuster judges unless you want to call the bipartisan as only example, it is a whole new environment now. wasn't right. we voted against it. it seems to me that whether it is what reid did in november 2013 or what we might have to do and hopefully we don't have to do it. if we have to do it, gets us

back to what the rule was from 1789 until 2002 or 2013. whatever it takes to get this well qualified person on the supreme court, we are going to do it. in the end he'll be approved with probably 52 republican votes. >> shannon: here is what chuck schumer had to say. >> i was listening to the majority leader, can't believe he can stand here on the floor of the u.s. senate and with a straight face say democrats are launching if first partisan filibuster of the supreme court nominee. what the majority leader did the merit garland. >> shannon: senator, what do you make of that laying blame, who will take the blame if you go

nuclear? >> when we point out the practice of the senate for 211 years and schumer poisoned the whale, if he wants to get back to the point where we were for 211 years, then he is the one that will have to drill a new well. we'll help him drill the new well because we think not have partisan opposition or ideology determining whether someone is qualified to be on the supreme court that is the sort of comedy we want for the future of our country and help get back there by drilling a new well. >> shannon: senator, we'll watch thursday and friday as it plays out, mr. chairman, thank you for making time. >> bill: we are watching this story as well. new questions about the former nsa adviser susan rice. why did she request names of

members of the trump team in foreign surveillance. what did she do with the names? katherine harris live in washington, katherine, where are we now? good morning. >> thank you, bill, good morning. rice says it is about security and not politics. republican senator rand paul said it is on the national security adviser to evidence. >> she says maybe i did. i didn't do it for political reasons. i think it is incumbent upon her to prove to the american people why it wouldn't have been a political reason. >> former intelligent official confirms only the person gets the information, rice would have been well aware and there is a comprehensive paper trail.

fox is told there is an agreement with democrats on how to proceed and interviews will likely be private and could come later this month, bill. >> will they call her as a witness today, katherine what is the status? >> rice offered no -- powerful chairman of the intelligence committee, he would not rule out calling the former national security adviser as a witness. >> if there is intelligence to look at susan rice, we'll do it. if there is intelligence to leads to some value, we'll invite them in. >> house speaker told reporters yesterday, he stands behind the republican chairman of the house committee, devin nunes about the intelligence reports that did

not relate to russia. >> chairman nunes has my confidence. the committee has my confidence. what is important is this committee does its investigation on a bipartisan basis to investigate all things russia. government source tells fox news, unmasked intelligence shared with rice and whether other members of the obama administration made similar coverage. >> bill: thank you, katherine. >> shannon: does the claim that the unmasking was in the interest of national security or all political? we are going to do a deep dive on susan rice scandal. talking health care, are republicans closer to reaching a deal to repeal and replace 'obamacare'? we'll take you live. and attorney jeff sessions -- a number of police

departments it is a move some say is way overdue. >> happened in my hometown of st. louis, didn't stop the department of justice from trying to use this as an excuse to smear an entire police department which underminds communities faith and local policing.

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that crashed in an unpopulated area which is what the u.s. air force is telling us, southeast washington, d.c., 12-15 miles. wooded area, just to quote the air force, pilot ejected safely in an unpopulated area, more information provided as it is available. that is all they are giving right now. we believe it was taking off or landing around andrews aforce base. that is the image 15 minutes passed the hour. >> shannon: former national security adviser susan rice said it was in the interest of national security. that was her job. critics say that doesn't wash because intelligence agencies usually make that decision. andrew mccarthy explains national security adviser is a white house staffer. president staff is a consumer of

intelligence not a generator or collector of it. if susan rice was unmasking americans it was not to fulfill a need based on interest but a political desire based on democratic party interests. columnist for the "washington post" and fox contributor, what say you, mark? >> you know, susan rice says she did nothing wrong. normally we'd give her a benefit of doubt, this is the same woman who said on five sunday shows blamed benghazi on an internet video when we knew from the beginning it was a terrorist attack and justified the release of five taliban senior commander saying bergdahl served with honor and distinction when informs he was a deserter. she went on tbs saying she

didn't know anything about it. why did she need to know? second of all, who did she share this information with. if you request unmasking, we don't know the answers, we need to get them. >> shannon: last hour bill caulk talked about with congressman king and what she said. >> first she knew nothing, now she said she knew about it but it wasn't for spying purposes. i don't know what the national security adviser would be doing except in the most extreme cases. she would be acting as a cop or investigator or fbi agent. >> shannon: she maybe called,

she maybe asked to testify under oath. do you think going to get the answers, people are clamoring for the why's and what happened next? >> we need to do it. needs to be a serious investigation. look, a few years ago, john bolton. he was filibustered by the democrats in part because he requested unmasking for legitimate reasons, one turned out to be the sub board innocents. democrats said that was grounds he shouldn't be confirmed. who did susan rice share the information with? apparently it went down to levels of the pentagon. very mid level person was on

msnbc saying she knew about it and needed to preserve the information so it could get out there. she said we know about trump contact with the russians. how did she know about trump contacts with the russians. >> shannon: she said she didn't know anything about leaks and wouldn't. if she stands before congress and gets sworn in and take it is fifth, 100 times, it is the kind of thing that drives americans crazy. or for us to find out there isn't anything, if it is a dog and pony show, where do you get answers? >> need to find the paper trail that goes from national security office in the pentagon. who did she share the information with? it is tedious work. it is entirely possible susan

rice is correct in saying she didn't leak the information. question is did she unmask the names and share the information with people who had top security clearances and disseminated with the understanding and expectation somebody would leak it? that seems to be what the goal was so that somebody would share this with the american people. that would be illegal. >> shannon: raises questions about the out going administration's decision to change the rules on how information could be spread. that is going to factor into this discussion as well. mark, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> bill: a growing dispute between homeland security and local courts. should immigration agents arrest crime victims and witnesses in the country illegally when they show up to testify. anti-trump voices taking

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>> shannon: ivanka trump defending herself against criticism. first daughter saying in an interview, just because she doesn't speak out publically doesn't mean she approves of everything her father does. >> if being come poliply sit is wanting to be a force for good

and make a positive impact, i am comply sit. i don't know if the critics would do any differently. >> shannon: she has focussed her position on women. >> bill: she is so composed. >> shannon: very polished. >> bill: let's move to a tough story here. want to warn you on this fox news alert, much of this video is graphic. death toll from chemical attack in northern syria rising to at least 72. there are children among the dead in a rebel held town yesterday. syrian government denies responsibility. president trump condemning the attack saying quote, these

heinous actions by the bashar assad regime are the consequences of the pass administration's weakness. president obama said he would establish a red line against the use of chemical weapons and did nothing. ralph peters, colonel, good morning. this is war and it is ugly. everyone is trying to shade the truth and blames someone else. what is your belief as to who is responsible for this? >> there is zero doubt in my mind who is responsible, syrian government of bashar assad who is a war criminal and has been repeatedly. he has allies, but hezbollah doesn't have capability, iran too smart. russia realizes global implications. it comes down to bashar assad and his regime and generals.

i wish we had a word beyond war. it is a vendetta. it is about vengeance. this is assad showing the syrian opposition how deserted they are by the world powers. >> bill: on that point, colonel, he is winning this war now. >> yes. >> bill: what is the incentive to drop chemical weapons? >> sheer vindictiveness to show the opposition they are utterly powerless that they have no friends left defending them. frankly, bill, this secretary of state tillerson's ill judged remarks, sadly preposterrous mark people of syria will determine the future of syria. future of syria determined by the assad regime by russia, iran

and hezbollah, i believe assad read that as america is pulling out. we have a problem on the eve of the first gulf war. we wouldn't impose invasion of kuwait. korean war started. you have to get the words right. >> bill: wall street journal on screen, mr. trump quoting, inherited a mess in syria, he'll need a better strategy than mr. obama's default of moral denones yags. we know obama screwed it up. the red line, it was desas rus.

i will tell you this is a war crime of the first magnitude and the lack of a u.s. response, britain and france are already yelling. >> bill: we'll see what the white house has to say about it. then we'll see the options, colonel, thank you. breaking news thanks for coming in on that very important topic,

ralph peters. >> shannon: bill, we are continuing to follow an f-16 apparently going down, brand new details, video and witness accounts. very latest right after this break.

>> shannon: more details of u.s. air force confirming f-16 went down outside of d.c. we are told the pilot ejected safely. area we believe was unpopulated. let's check in with jennifer live. she has the latest. we now have eyewitness attacks thanks to colleagues at wttg fox 5 here in washington f-16 went down in a neighborhoods in

prince georges county in the neighborhood of clinton. here is an eyewitness, patrick dobson. he told our colleagues what he saw. >> i was on the porch, i looked up, the jet was on fire. pilot already ejected, he was on fire, seat would you say on fire. i screamed to my mother, get out of the house. i thought the jet was going to land here. it landed back in the woods further. i was running towards where i saw the parachute. live rounds started coming passed me. i waited for the bullets to stop flying. they stopped. i ran towards the pilot mile and a half into the woods into a field. i found the pilot. he was on his two feet aware. he was worried about the neighborhood. >> he said is everything okay, i am carrying live rounds.

>> i said i think you landed in the woods. i am not sure. >> how are you feeling? >> to be honest, i am still shaking. never in my life seen something like that. a war movie has no precedents on the explosion i witnessed. >> you saw the plane? >> i saw the plane, the pilot eject. i talked to the pilot. it was -- i can't really put into words what happened. >> you said it looked completely engulfed. >> nothing left, no. it was the biggest fire ball i have ever seen in my life. >> you said you were busy you didn't have time to take video? >> i lost my phone running towards the pilot. i didn't know if i should check

on the neighbor behind me or the pilot. the pilot to me looked like he was on fire. i knew his seat was on fire. when i got to him, he was okay. he was worried about the neighbors. >> when you saw the plane, it was already in flames? >> yes, ma'am. the plane was in flames in the front of the plane, another jet beside him maybe looked like he caught shrapnel. then the plane nose dive. >> you think like the pilot intentionally found a clear spot? >> yes, ma'am. what is extraordinary these f-16 pilots highly trained. the pilot tried to direct it into a wooded area away from this neighborhood in prince george's county.

patrick dobson described how the pilot told him there was live ammunition on board and when it crashed, some of the 20 millimeter rounds were firing and this witness felt like he was under fire like it was in a war movie. other witnesses said the f-16 was flying in formation with at least two other war planes, jet fighters part of a military exercise. we have been trying to get more details. also a helicopter flying behind this jet fighter before it crashed. it is not clear what they were doing. but the pilot said they were carrying live ammunition. that is of some concern in clinton six miles from the washington national harbor. >> shannon: all of us who live there in the d.c. area, we see these exercises, a lot of

military traffic in that area. i know sometimes we get notes before the exercises are happening, other times we don't. they are running missions or training exercises often very low to the ground. you never know. there is a feeling for so many that live around there, maybe just a maneuver, it is tough to tell until we get this shocking revelation from the witness about exactly how this played out. >> the witness said the pilot looked like he was on fire when he ejected from the f-16. andrews air force base that is where the president flies out of, vice president's plane kept there. f-16 are kept on an alert status, eight-minute alert status after 9/11 to respond. this is very active space. pilot did an amazing job

directing the f-16 into a wooded area. it just narrowly missed that heavily populated area not far from washington, d.c. >> shannon: and a school. jennifer griffith, thank you very much. takes a lot of skill from crashing into homes and school nearby. bravo. >> bill: and the witness, too, he said he need add cigarette. how could you blame him. justice department, will it help officers protect the people they are sworn to serve? we'll have a closer look and find out the pros and cons. >> i am always very cautious when i see the federal government make overtures to the local police. to make sure you fix the inadequacies to fix the police

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>> bill: u.s. department of justice ordering a review of federal reformed enacted by obama administration with police departments across the country. individual misdeed of bad actors should not impugn the work of police in keeping americans safe. >> morning, bill. >> bill: is this a good thing? >> i think it is good in that the justice department is clearly reaching out to the good police officers in the country. saying we are not blaming you for all the bad things that happened. there is a move away from this. bush administration moved away from consent decrees after president clinton used them

extensively. >> bill: can i stop you there? what was the effect under the bush years when that happened? was it a positive or negative or how do you judge it? police were in a better position with the police department and weren't being blamed. it was a good thing for police moral. there is also the upside to these situations where you have a focus on the department and more resources come through the department to fix things that need to be fixed. a lot of the of times cities won't fund a police department properly. training is the first thing cut. bad things start happening and people wonder why. >> bill: dan was on last night on the first 100 days. she took the position from the police officer's standpoint, they need the protection, they need the help when she said this. >> police officers need to have the trust of the community to do

their jobs and not have to worry about having their lives worried about overzealous civil rights attorneys operating on behalf of a politicized -- they are going to see it remedied by this attorney general. >> bill: did the last administration go too far, ed? >> there was clearly a focus on blaming the police. there were bad situations that needed to be addressed. police were definitely blamed more than i think appropriate. this is a good move in that regard. however, there are departments that have problems that need to be addressed. it is not so much what you are not going to do as a justice department. we need to hear what the justice department is going to do to help the police to fix the problems identified. if it is not consent decrees to

leverage the local department or to identify problems and figure out another way to fix them. >> bill: interesting answers, last question, what is your sense from this department of justice, this attorney general thus far? you are two and a half months in, what is your read on that? >> clearly this justice department is doing things differently. they are righting some things that went way too left in the last administration. i think the police in the cities and towns of the united states are breathing a sigh of relief. how do you make sure the communities are happy with the policing you are getting and getting the quality they should be getting. >> bill: ed davis, thank you for coming in. out of boston, massachusetts,

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>> coming up on happening now, could it happen in this country, what u.s. companies are doing to try to prevent it coming up next hour on "happening now." >> shannon: homeland security will not arrest immigrants witnesses to crime. dhs said the move is justified just because they are a victim doesn't mean there isn't something in their background

that could cause them to be a removable alien. ed martin co-author of the book conservative case for jump. welcome both. >> good morning. >> thank you. >> shannon: all right. ed, i know this is about enforcing the law, pr side is difficult! >> i am in st. louis. people have been yearning for leadership actually not politicized by the obama justice department. donald trump said we are a nation of borders or not. nation of laws or not. we want laws and borders. if you are here illegally you don't get to use the justice system, school system, medical system. after this gets out, illegals

will leave or won't come. thank goodness we have sessions in the general department. public is excited not upset. >> they are not excited. >> shannon: let me read what we are hearing, because courthouse visitors are screened for weapons and other contraband, safety risk for persons arrested are decreased. they are already there at the courthouse, they have been screened if there is an arrest warrant already, how is this not the best case scenario? >> if there is an arrest warrant, that is a totally different circumstance. if you are a witness to a crime or report a crime or victim of a crime, you could face arrest which is completely different. donald trump has been unbelievably inconsistent. first deportation, of course not, we are not going to get the 11 million people out vast

majority have done nothing wrong except crossing the border illegally. for ed to say this is what the american public wants and like this strong leadership, how do you explain donald trump's approval rating or cnn poll 90% saying illegal immigrants in this country have a job, speak english, pay back taxes, pathway to citizenship. >> shannon: both president and hilary clinton running against him had terrible numbers. >> only one is president, the wrong one. >> shannon: deporting the quote, bad hombres, he got a ton of love. millions voted based on the promises. >> shannon, jessica, polls were wrong like this public opinion surveys are wrong.

out in america where people live they want the law obeyed. you agreed, jessica, you said they committed crimes, you said it, not me. crime commiters need to be taken in and sent out of the country. general sessions is not fearless. not a justice department saying amnesty for some, pardons for some. you want the change the law, thank the law. thankfully the republican house won't neither with l the president. >> shannon: jessica, is that the answer? >> yes. they may tackle it again. they are talking about the wall and those kinds of things. if we are talking about the law applied without discretion, jessica, is that workable for you? >> no. it is not workable for me.

[laughter]. >> shannon: okay. >> there is and i acknowledge it, i would return to numbers which are not fake, ed. this is another trump fantasy these numbers are made up. in your world donald trump is the most popular president on the planet. i understand there are laws. i love laws, i think they are important. >> shannon: just certain ones, though? >> know it is not just about certain ones, if we change the law, that is not how to country works right now. i would say also, you mock what went on about president obama who deported more illegal aliens than george bush. he wasn't hugely unpopular. >> shannon: folks will say there

is fewer of those crossing the border because people are being discouraged. >> but these 11 million people, you are not going to round them up and police chiefs across the country want to work with them. >> shannon: jessica, ed. thank you both. >> bill: in maryland with a statement from the national guard, what they are saying about the pilot and the neighborhood that came so dangerously close, that statement next after a break here. at angie's list, we believe

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steer the plane away from a neighborhood, and also once he ejected and got on his two feet he told that eyewitness that he had live munition on board. we're trying to sort it out. >> shannon: for now looks like all is well. >> hopefully folks got lucky there. we got to run. catch you later, everybody. "happening now" starts right now. >> we begin with a fox news alert on another busy day for the trump administration as vice president pence launches a full-court press to revive the healthcare bill, holding late-night meetings with key lawmakers to try to forge a new republican consensus on repealing and replacing obamacare. welcome to "happening now," to you. >> i'm julie bandaras. mitch mcconnell says he's confident he has the jets to get judge neil