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neil: all right. susan rice is for many in the republican side keeps giving specially on comments of national security issues and this past week on the comments she made about the united nations and trusting them on chemical weapons and policing that and syria. listen to this in an interview she had with npr. >> we were able to find a solution that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from syria in a way that the use of force would have never accomplished. neil: apparently that was not the case because they still had chemical weapons and the russians were supposed to police the activity, did not.

john bolton, former u.s. embassador to the united nations, susan rice was also an embassador to the un and she must know how that institution works or doesn't and must know a thing or two about how you can put faith in directives or not, what do you think about all of this? >> an example of the fantasy land that the obama administration lived in facing agreements with the likes of syria and russia and others. it's very interesting in the statement that you quoted, she said, removing the chemical weapons that were known, so this is the kind of exercise we go through with russians on arm's control agreement or iran, north korea with agreements with them back in 2012, 2013, syria declared stockpiles and what it declared and showed that the un was removed and destroyed. that's not the end of the story, though. it's what they didn't declare that the un couldn't find the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons and i'm not

sure that our intelligence knew about either. this is a very important question going forward. did the obama administration know of chemical weapon stockpiles that still existed in syria, they briefed the incoming trump administration on it. i would be very curious about that and also intelligence that withheld. neil: one thing it's very clear is we have apparently drawn the line to the use of chemical weapons, the line that president bush used and chemical weapon to justify going into iraq and so it is something that is a deal- breaker and as we look at the 100th anniversary of world war i and chemical weapons was a big issue then. where are we going on this and

keep popping up as real threats to mankind? >> it should tell you something after 100-year history of these kinds of arms control agreements that the people you're most worried about are fully prepared to commit to give up nuclear weapons, give up biological and chemical agreements. winston churchill said the trouble with arms control agreement, the only people that adhere to them are the people you don't worry about to begin with. neil: where did it go, though? we knew they had the weapons and then they disappeared and then under the ground or what have you. we had a full un commitment and understanding that syria had gotten rid of its chemical weapons and magically reappeared so obviously some countries are very adept at hiding this stuff or making you think they got rid of this stuff, what do you make

of it and how do we police this going forward? our our intelligence capabilities are not up to the abilities of others to conceal and camouflage and deceive us. just to take the iraq example for a minute, one of the problems that i think we had on the chemical weapons, the rob silverman mission said, we believed saddam hussein. he may have simply been lying. we don't know how many chemical weapons and precursor agents the saddam regime had. there were a lot of speculation before the invasion in 2003 that some of those weapons were going across the border into syria. maybe that's where some of the chemical agent came from that syria later used. we just don't know. that's why when you sign agreements like the iran nuclear agreement, like the agreed framework with north korea on nuclear weapon's program and the clinton administration, the

notion that we are able to detect violations with confidence and therefore these agreements give us a measure of security is badly mistaken and i think too often we find that out only when the damage is done. you don't get many laboratory experiments and international affairs but this agreement about syria's chemical weapons brokered by the russians, saved obama from retaliating from syria crossing the red line has been a catastrophic failure and ought to be the subject of discussion when secretary of state tillerson goes to moscow next week and not only that, what about russian violations of the 1987 intermediate change nuclear forces agreement and what about violations of the obama administration's control agreement and chemical weapons program and there's a lot to talk about in terms of broken commitments that the russians have made. neil: all right, real quickly,

nikki haley has said it might not be one, how do you think russia responds to that? >> i don't think her statement was so extraordinary. before obama, it would have been considered -- i'm going to put troops into afghanistan, more troops but i'm going to bring them out by day certain. it's only after eight years of that kind of foolishness that when somebody says, we might do more that the media are astounded. neil: thank you very much. the president was leaving mar-a-lago where he was supposed to host meetings. not given indication whether he was golfing. he entertained virtually the entire diplomatic establishment. so they're meetings there. there's no problems there. he's entitled.

he's the president of the united states. they're not saying he's golfing, maybe holding meetings there. when he goes golfing maybe it's different than when you and i go golfing. there are a lot of people that go with you. a little more to this of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. oh yes.... even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands.

if you may have prediabetes. you can do it here. but i get it, you're busy. and busy people can't have prediabetes. ahhh, i read that wrong. they can. ok. just go to the site. neil: all right, on monday morning judge neil gorsuch will become supreme court justice neil gorsuch. it would be his chance to rule, many say, antonin scalia, in the conservative vein. how do you think he will rule on a lot of the religious and other cases? he tends to have taken the side of hobby lobby. >> obviously we anticipate that he will be on the conservative side of the spectrum.

we know that he had great respect for antonin schoolia's ruling but he also is a textual ist and he delves into what the actual statute say, the direct interpretation. if you're talking about cases like hobby lobby and ruled in favor of private entities and religious cases, you also have to look at the fact this he is very careful to say specially like in hobby lobby, it was craft score, they had to follow affordable care act and also made it clear that it was a closely-held corporation. now that is a very definitive analysis of how he would rule in the future. different than in next case that's on the docket. we anticipate that he will hear it. the lutheran school, that's actually a church and his prior

rulings were distinct. neil: does it get federal funds? >> it did not get federal funds. they we wanted to build a playground and funds available and the state said, no. that will go before the court and, of course, it's an issue of establishment clause. in the past the supreme court does not like to use taxpayer dollars to fund any projects that are religious or in nature give money to a church. so as much as there's a lot of talk that gorsuch in the past has given money in situations, this particular case it is a church playground. where he will go with that, it's interesting to see. neil: he comes back on how he answered issues on right to life issues, when such questions came

up, roe v. wade, established law, you know better than i, what does that mean? we have to weigh that when case that is have come down the pipe many times since row roe v. wade that it has been established, so are we to interpret, conservatives who have been looking at him as hope to reverse that to be less inclined? >> rowroe v. wade is a political hot button issue, significant for anybody on the supreme court, however, you know, he is a judge that believes in federalism. he does differ to the state and it is not in the docket of the supreme court in the future. i mean, there are a lot of pressing issues. there are issues that are approaching the court having to do with gun control which is something that is very right for the american people to hear. roe v. wade, do we see that justice gorsuch is going to come on and reverse a woman's right, i doubt it.

neil: someone we thought was a conservative and who might not be, i have no way of knowing, we don't always get right or left the justice you think? >> do i think from his past rule negotiation the tenth circuit he does interpret the law very factually. i find him to be a fair constructionist. i think he wants to pull the law out from behind. he wants the constitution to be interpreted as it is read. it doesn't matter that's 200 year's old, he finds the four fathers intent's applicable to the present. i don't think you're going to see somebody that's kind of a loose cannon. i think you got a lot from kennedy, kennedy really was his mentor at a point in time and i think that actually in a good way will allow him the fortitude to sway either way but i really do believe that this is a jurist whose not going to be swayed by politics. i think you see that from his career and the fact that he is

to the right, well, the fact of the matter he is, he is replacement for antonin scalia who was to the right. neil: absolutely. >> we are not tilting. neil: haven't tilted it yet. thank you very much. the judge is sworn in twice on monday one by chief justice roberts, behind the scene ceremony and anthony kennedy, that will be a televised

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is anyone there? neil: no, they're not, you know where they are? they're on vacation for two weeks. two weeks where they could be ironing out the differences on the health care rework. god forbid on tax cuts that look dicey as the hours go by. larry glazer is here and fox news' kennedy. kennedy autoall times, they go out of town. kennedy: it makes perfect sense that they would go on spring walk-about. we really don't have to worry about the economy or tax reform or health care, people really aren't invested in their overall health and long-term financial well-being, go have a break. a little two-week vacay. neil: they are. this further pushes back the calendar on some of these things. we might still see them but as i

was raising with my buddy stuart varney, i'm getting increasingly antsy we are not. what if the stuff is delayed or individual tax rates denied at least this year? >> that's right, neil. many of us are old enough to remember the day of yesterday when legislative did something very unusual in washington, they legislated and today the public has increasingly seeing congress as a group ta goes on a lot of fancy golf trips, eats a lot of steak dinners. if we went on vacation that much we would get fired -- neil: i'm not one to -- to kennedy's point, we have a lot of stuff that needs doing and they are not doing it and whatever reason -- >> sure. neil: bottom line is they're not getting the stuff done. >> that's right, neil, the financial markets have been incredibly patient with congress and they believe this legislative agenda is intact but it is delayed. as long as they see movement toward that agenda they will

feel confident, they are going to start getting incredibly impatient because they don't see movement. tax cuts are so critical to market right now. legislative reform in terms of regulatory reform, health care reform, infrastructure spending. if the legislators listen to constituents they would follow the policy track that they are asking for and that the election was all about. that's what the financial markets really want to see. the markets will hold up as long as they believe there's hope that this is going to happen. they start to doubt that, then we are going to see a dip in the markets and that's my big concern right now. neil: you reported as well as libertarian, kennedy, that most times people are happy because that will only do more damage. this is one of the rare moments where they could do something constructive and they're not around. kennedy: particularly when you talk about tax reform. august was supposed to be on the timeline. that was the firm month given by steve mnuchin but now the president's chief economic

adviser gary cohn said it might not happen. they are trying to rush through health care to reconcile -- neil: i understand that you need the trillion dollars, all the nonsense, but if you had disagreement on that, then -- then do you think it's going to get any better taking another shot at it where as the tax cut they did seem to be somewhat broader agreements, parameters of that? kennedy: when you talk to members of the freedom caucus they say they have more flexibility within the caucus on tax reform, the movement that we have seen on health care is potentially meaningless now that they are going on two-week break, was more favorable to cost-cutting group. it remains to be seen what happens with the looming shutdown as well. you have a number of issues compounded by what's going on in syria. the congress and the president are loading up their plate.

they are at the buffet. when it comes to pay the bill, the american people turn their noses. neil: tremendous, he goes onto say, goodwill and friendship was formed but only time will tell on trade. how important is this relationship and getting a constructive dialogue and getting the trade debt to you? >> it's going to come from asia and emerging markets. that's where demographics are. china is the 10,000-pound gorilla. that's what american workers want to see, fair trade and fair to everyone in this country. neil: all right. thanks, guys, very much. in the meantime susan rice with big dinner tonight, is that

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neil: all right, more tweets from president trump today but in the latest he congratulates our military men and women for representing the united states in the world so well in this syria attack for which he has gotten worldwide praise on direct hits, 58 of 59 tomahawk missiles hit destnated targetane targets. that's remarkable. russia meanwhile taking a slightly different take on all of this, said the united states went way beyond what it should have been doing in provocati