trump is president. and america is back with a vengeance. get with the program, or you just might end up where hillary and the rest of the pc crowd are right now, canceled. have a great holiday weekend, everybody. happy easter, everybody. leland: north korea puts on a massive show of force in honor of founder kim il-sung. greg palkot is live in pyongyang. elizabeth: president trump is taking these and some are taking to the streets. >> 150 cities are expected to have anti-trump protests on tax day and demanding he release his taxes. we'll have that ahead. leland: speaking of president trump, he is at mar-a-lago this easter and passover weekend.

we'll check in on the palace intrigue at the winter white house. house. >> and with that, welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. there's still a lot of news this easter and passover weekend. i'm leland vittert. elizabeth: happy holidays, i'm elizabeth prann. thank you for joining us this saturday. a show of military might at pyongyang as kim jong-un looks on in delight, the date on the calendar by showing off inter-continental ballistic missiles. at least one appears to be brand new. concerns are growing among officials that north korea may be close to another nuclear test or missile launch. vice-president mike pence is on his way to south korea, the first stop of a 10-day asia to your as of course, tensions rise across the region.

doug mcelway has more from the washington news room. hi, doug. >> as potentially significant the new missiles is, the testing has been marked by numerous failures as we know. tensions are high. it kim jong-un tests another missile, the thought is it may be during this the celebration of the birth of the founder, as ships steam closer to north korea and china are urging the u.s. and both koreas to cool it. in a statement, the united states and south korea and north korea are engaging in tit-for-tat, and urge all parties to withdraw from deeds that would put more on the peninsula. the and resumption of leadership on the world stage, an about-face from the obama

doctrine from leading from behind. >> i think if kim jong-un had any doubt that the united states leadership under president trump would do what's necessary to defend our territory. i can't imagine he doubts that now. >> that adds another uncertainty, given kim jong-un's penchant for unpredictability. some argue the u.s.'s more aggressive posture is worth the risk. >> north korea gets the capability to drop an icbm with a nuclear warhead on the united states, iran will have it the next day for the right price. >> amidst this attention, nancy pelosi is calling for congress to forego the easter recess and that speaker ryan must call congress back to session for debates. and vice-president pence is embarking on the 11-day visit to south korea, japan, indonesia and australia. back to you. elizabeth: a lot of the docket. doug, thank you so much. leland: ruler kim jong-un did

not address the country during today as elaborately staged parade, but his top official accuses president trump of, quote, creating a war-like situation on the korean peninsula by sending u.s. forces to the region. state controlled tv condemned the recent u.s. strikes on syria, promising action if their country feels provoked. >> . >> just ahead, this hour, we're going to go to the ground in pyongyang, north korea where fox news correspondent greg palkot is there for a conversation on the building drama from inside that closed

off country. elizabeth: as americans rush to file their taxes with uncle sam by tuesday, some are using tax day to urge president trump to release his own tax returns, an issue that's followed him since the campaign trail. about 150 tax day marches are planned in cities across the country today. washington began its march just moments ago. new york city's will begin in just about an hour from now in bryant park, that's where we find our own brian. >> that's right, 150 cities are having tax day marches, it's supposed to be the largest anti-trump protest movement since the women's march. that's what organizers are hoping for around the country. take a look at bryant park, it's just sort of beginning preparations here. really, what they're asking for, they're demanding that president trump release his tax returns. they want to make sure that he

realizes and the white house realizes this is not an issue they're going to forget. they want the tax returns because they believe it's an issue of transparency. they want to know whether or not he has any conflicts of interest. of course, the white house has currently said with this, that they can't release the tax returns because he's under audit. remember, kellyanne conway said a few months ago, they weren't going to release the tax returns because president trump was elected and therefore people just don't care about the issue. therein lies what we have today. organizers wants to know that americans do care about this issue. and a quinnipiac university poll say that americans want president trump to release the tax return. today is traditional tax deadline to get your tax returns in, april 15th. this year it's on tuesday because of the holiday weekend.

it's the eighth anniversary of the tea party movement. therefore, you can be expecting some pro-trump rallies in colorado springs, as well as in berkley, california. that's something we'll take a look at some pro-trump rallies that could be there to show support for the president. again, this is an issue that's going to be rearing its head as the talk about tax reform continues. the senate minority leader chuck schumer says that president trump not releasing his tax returns will make tax reform a bipartisan issue much harder. so, again, all of this in play as we look to see how the tax day marches will carry out around the country in some 150 cities today. elizabeth. elizabeth: we'll keep an eye on it. bryan llenas reporting. leland: his vice-president is

literally in the air right now, en route seoul, south korea. a clear message to the north and a very clear reassurance, you might say, to our allies in the south. kristin fisher is travelling with president trump and joins us from palm beach. hi, kristen. >> right now vice-president mike pence is headed to one of the hottest hot spots in the world and the white house says that contingency plans are in case in case north korea decides to take any provocative action while the vice-president is right next door. vice-president pence left this morning from joint base andrews, along with him, his second-- his wife, second lady karen pence and their two daughters also on board. several members of his senior staff including his national security advisor, communications director and press secretary. their first stop, anchorage alaska to refuel and then he will head across the pacific ocean for a 11-day trip. this is a big trip.

he's going to start by spending three days in seoul, south korea and meet with the acting president. no plans to go to the dmz, the demilitarized zone and then head to tokyo, japan. jakarta, and then to hawaii. at each stop the white house says that the vice-president will be reinforcing three key themes that the u.s. is committed to its security alliances, its economic engagement and partnership with key countries. as for the president, the sirens you hear have nothing to do with him. just the fire trucks passing by. president trump, he's spending the easter weekend with his family here at his mar-a-lago resort and arrives without any members of his senior staff which is fairly unusual. typically he comes down here with either his chief of staff reince priebus, strategist steve bannon. neither of them are with him. the only one here is kt

mcfarland on the way to singapore to become the ambassador there. so, read into that what you will. this is also the second day in a row that president trump has spent the morning at trump international golf club. nothing official on this calendar, the easter weekend. this is billed as a family weekend, but he's continuing to be briefed by the national security council about this north korean threat. he's continuing to be briefed about the ongoing fallout from his decision to strike syria and the u.s. military decision to drop that big bomb, the mother of all bombs on afghanistan. so, of course, the big question now is what will president trump do if north korea decides to take any more provocative action? e tea of folks looking at leaves, you know, as to what exactly he might do. the big difference though, of course, between what happened in his decision to take military action in syria and afghanistan, those are not nuclear powers and, of course,

north korea is, leland. leland: they have no problem letting everyone know that. kristin fisher live in mar-a-lago, thanks, chris tip. elizabeth: president trump's stance on a number of issues, n.a.t.o., china, russia among a few have evolved, some say, since election day, drawing heavy attention from the media. they're watching it and reporting and so is sarah westwood. the white house correspondent for the washington examiner and joins us now. i've read some of your coverage and read into the issues. first and foremost, i want your report on dynamics behind the scenes as we watch this administration take shape. >> we are seeing some tension between the various ideological wings within the white house. on the one hand, you have some centrists or left leaning people, these voices include jared kushner, gary cohn. >> his daughter. >> his daughter, and people who advised trump to moderate some tougher positions and on the

other side of the ideological divide, steve bannon, steven miller and those who hold more conservative values and want president trump to stick closer to the literal translation of what he's proposed on the campaign trail. ap there's inherent tension between those two camps spilling out into the headlines lately and that palace intrigue has started to distract from the actual substance of what they're doing, it's clear that president trump wanted to put that to bed. elizabeth: you're gathering that it is a distraction. i'm wondering if that is part of his tactic to have an array of opinions, to have a very dynamic staff, if you will, people surrounding him. is that all negative? >> well, that's part of his. m-o. he likes to have dissenting voices so he can get a broad range of opinions and make the best decision. when it becomes a problem is when the in-fighting overshadows the product of the input that's taking place behind the scenes. and that's when it starts to

become an issue for the white house. it's good for them to have that internal debate, but when it's playing out on the nightly news in selective leaks, they wonder if it's an effective tactic. elizabeth: i'm going to ask you about the issues, there are 11 issues you feel he's evolved on and flipped on even some this week. i want to ask you which issues are getting hit the hardest by dissenting voices. is it the taxes, tax issue coming up? is it russia? what is impacted by the voices. >> we've seen reverseals in the 80-some odd days. one of the most significant was the complete reversal on docka, an obama era immigration order that president trump promised to remove immediately and looks like he'll leave it intact. elizabeth: he said that was one of the hardest decisions. >> that's a hard decision, but that shows he's pulled in different directions with advisors. with the promises he made on

the campaign trail to repeal executive orders and once he realized the reality of what it would mean for dreamers and internally from ivanka and jared and centrist voices within his white house and you're seeing that play out especially in foreign policy because he is pursuing these more hawkish strategies. we've seen the bombing in afghanistan, we've seen in syria. he's positioning the u.s. military in north korea and that's all a product of some of these more traditionally conservative voices that he does have, like hr mcmaster, principally, his national security advisor. he's pulled away from the more noninterventionist campaign policies. elizabeth: he did play out, he said strength by force if i'm mott mistake tatakmistaken. he's following through on some of the things. >> definitely.

there's a noninterventionist and promising to rebuild the military and peace through strength and all of these shows of force because he thought that the obama administration weakened america in the eyes of the world and he promised to restore that image of strength. that was always a little bit of odds with his noninterventionist policy and we see that played out in the responses to the latest moves. elizabeth: quickly, perhaps not unusual for an administration in 100 days for an administration to evolve like this? >> slufl. it's normal to have growing pains and governing, to shift some positions. as long as he stays true to border security and creating jobs, he will stay in good favor with his base. elizabeth: sarah, excellent. appreciate you being with us. leland: tomorrow on media buzz at 11 a.m., howard kurtz will take a closer look at the media's coverage of president trump's changing stances on issues and he'll look at how

the media reacted to a united passenger dragged off the plane, plus, chris wallace has two exclusive interviews. he'll speak with kt mcfarland who is travelling with the president and mack thornberry about the latest situation on north korea and the middle east. as always check your local listing for time and channel. coming up here on the program, the deep red congressional district once represented by newt gingrich and tom price has a real chance of going blue on tuesday. we're going to find out which g.o.p. heavy hitters are trying to save that seat. plus, live to the hermit kingdom. our own greg palkot in north korea as they issue new threats against the united states. and then, remembering those lost in the boston marathon bombing that was, can you believe it, four years ago today. (vo) my name is bryan.

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>> and a fox news alert as drama continues to build on the korean peninsula. north korea threatening a preemptive strike on the united states if it feels a military attack is imminent.

this, as the country parades inter-continental ballistic missiles through its capital, a show of might as the country continues to divide sanctions of nuclear weapons testing. greg palkot was at the parade and joins us from the capital where it's already early sunday morning, hi, greg. >> reporter: hi, leland, that's right, tough talk and a lot of mighty display at the parade today marking the anniversary, the birth date of the founder of this country, kim il-sung. his grandson is now in charge, you're right, we were at the parade. take a look at what we saw. >> north korean leader kim jong-un presiding over a most unusual combination parade in pyongyang.

military, civilian that's because the country is in an unusual stance with the united states. the young leader is looking to the crowds for raucous, perhaps highly orchestrated support. while there was no nuclear test or a missile launched today, marking the day, which was feared, there's a lot of military might on display and again, analysts say that they saw at least two new intermediate range missiles being paraded down the street there, as well as a prototype of an inter-continental ballistic missile. the fear is that north korea could get an icbm tipped with a nuclear weapon and it could hit the united states. now, including with the army and the military, tens of thousands of civilians marched as well. this is sort of a government organized love fest for north korea and as the day wore on, leland, it became a government organized hate fest against the

united states. a speech from the top aide to kim jong-un ranted at the united states, said this country would defiantly confront the united states in a fullout war, including nuclear strikes. and finally, kim jong-un's new found foe, president trump, well, he got a shout out today on state media, they described his rhetoric as military hysteria, and dangerous, and according to them, they would no longer tolerate it. by the way, we were,s a you might have noticed from that shot, just a couple hundred yards from kim jong-un. it's quite remarkable, actually. he's a 30-something, only five years in his job, and he's right in the middle of his government, right facing the largest country in the world. certainly, not someone to be underestimated, leland. leland: greg, for sure, and you would know. what an experience to be there. it's not the first time to are you, your producer clare, and

our friend the photographer to be there. how has things changed under this younger ruler. are things shall we say, less stable than they were under his father? >> he is working on a lot of different fronts, leland. what i am told, and what i am seeing on the ground, in the past couple of days, he is, in fact, tightening the inner circle, repression of the generals, actually, assassinations as we know, of relatives. he's also continuing to repress the people here to try to keep the information out from the outside world, but, and this is interesting, leland, he is also tried to loosen up the economy and trying to keep the public satisfied to some degree and finally, as we know and we've been the reporting for the past week from this region, he is keeping up the development of nuclear weapons, of the missiles, to keep his foes at bay.

so it's quite a juggling act. that's what i said during my piece, this is not a guy who be underestimated, he and the people around him, leland. leland: that's for sure. greg palkot on the ground. safe travels home to you and your crew, greg. we appreciate all the work and i think we both here agree on the set, we're a little envious of your posting there for the past couple of days. great to be with you, my friend. liz. elizabeth: the death toll from a massive u.s. bomb in afghanistan has tripled and could rise according to afghan officials. david lee miller is following this live from the mideast bureau, hi, david lee. >> afghan officials say at least 94 isis fighters were killed during thursday's air strike by the united states. the mounting death toll was caused by the use of the largest nonnuclear weapon used by the united states in combat. afghanistan's president says close cooperation between the

pentagon and his government helped to prevent any civilian casualties. ground operations are still underway to assist the damage caused by the massive ordinance air blast, moab, nicknamed the mother of all bombs. the strike targeted a complex of tunnels and caves used by isis in a remote area of the province near the pakistan border. at u.s. officials estimate there are now about 800 isis fighters in afghanistan. the u.s. general in charge of operations there says the group was terrorizing the local population, attacking people in mosques and hospitals and a man who lived near the area near the air strike called for more attacks on isis. >> local residents haven't been affected at all. not even a small child has been injured. there was no other option for this operation, but to use the bomb. the national army tried hard many times, now it's going to

successfully and request the government to not stop here. the isis fighters shut-- should be rooted out of here. >> in the hellman province in afghanistan, at many as 11 civilians were killed in two separate roadside bombs. the u.s. military has more than 8,000 troops in afghanistan. they're not only targeting isis fighters, but assisting the afghan military in its struggle with the taliban. elizabeth: david lee miller reporting live, thank you so much. leland: house speaker paul ryan looking to add a new member to his flock. voters go to the polls on tuesday for a special election and a house seat. a look what's turning into a very close race and why it matters. plus-- need no introduction, the pregnancy that's captured a nation and even approval.

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>> a federal judge issuing a stay against arkansas's plan to execute six inmates over just ten days. they had planned to start the executions on monday. will carr following the story that developed over the weekend with the arguments from really both sides here, will. >> that's right, leland. in arkansas, they planned to he is cute an unprecedented number of inmates in less than two weeks, six executions over ten days to be exact. met with strong protests and condemnations by residents both in person and social media and from big-time celebrities like johnny depp. >> there's a wrong thing to do and a right thing to do, the right thing must be done. >> but a 2015 poll from university of arkansas showed more than two-thirds of arkansas residents support the death penalty.

coupled with that, a sedative the state uses in the lethal injection cocktail was set to expire in two weeks and governor asa hutchinson says that arkansas had to act. . >> there's been a 25-year nightmare for the victim that's had had to deal with this and now it's time for that justice to be carried out. >> only texas has executed eight people in one month. they did that back in the '90s twice and the near number of executions that arkansas was planning on brings a lot of questions. >> the danger of having eight executions in such a short period of time or even seven executions is that if something goes wrong with one, there's no time to figure out what the problem was and to make adjustments later on. >> this morning, federal judge christine baker blocked the executions based on the 8th amendment and her ruling applies to nine prisoners although only six were set to be executed in the coming weeks.

the state of arkansas plans to appeal. leland. leland: we'll see where that appeal goes. will carr in los angeles, thanks, will. elizabeth: as you know, millions of christians will be celebrating easter around the world this weekend and on the heels of last week's coptic christian bombings, the fear is palpable. john is with the foundation for democracy to prevent terror around the globe on this sacred weekend. thank you for joining me, jonathan. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: what's taking place in egypt? we had seen services canceled and folks want to celebrate. this is an incredibly sacred weekend for many people. >> they've been the targets of islamist attacks for decades now. we've seen a cracking down or let's just say a squeezing of christians across the region, not just in egypt itself, but

egypt, i think, has really put a spotlight on the program that christians face around the region. they're an embattled minority, we don't think about that here in the united states where christians are of course the majority. in the middle east they're minority and embattled one and the islamists have taken aim. we typically like to think how they take aim at the israelis or at u.s. military, but certainly in egypt and other places, we see the targeting of christians. elizabeth: we've had a woman on our show last weekend, and she had spoken specifically about leadership and the government in egypt and i want to play the sound bite for you and get your reaction. >> the egyptian government and the state-run university and the muslim controlled university, still till today teaches things like the theological legitimacy of non-muslims. elizabeth: turning a blind eye to what is essentially our definition of terrorism? >> absolutely.

elizabeth: what environment is that creating? >> it's creating an environment of terror for christians, no question about it. elizabeth: can it reverse snd -- reversed and how so? >> an attempt to reach out to the egyptian government. they did not have a good relation with barack obama after. it looks likes things are patched up between donald trump and el-sisi. and perhaps it's for secretary tillerson or perhaps donald trump himself to demand steps to protect christians in egypt. elizabeth: which is a segue. i want to ask you about the political impact. there are a number of things going on around the world upcoming. we see the tension with north korea, with china, iran is having elections and obviously, we're seeing president trump now perhaps building a relationship with the president of egypt.

but all of these could rile up terrorists, if you will. so does that mean that people are more fearful because of that and not for religious reasons, but, well, yes for religious reasons, but also for political reasons? >> certainly. i think what we're looking at is a volatile middle east and the world, looking at tensions stemming from ties between russia and the united states, looking at what's going on in north korea. i don't think that those things necessarily portend terrorism, but certainly, iran becomes the number one state sponsor of terrorism around the world. we see isis in syria and as they are squeezed out, we are likely to see that isis will turn into more of a trans national organization. so there are lots of moving parts right now. the donald trump administration is faced with many, many challenges most they inherited from the trump administration-- >> from the obama administration. >> from the obama administration. they're trying their best now to take a more muscular

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>> today marks four years since the boston marathon bombing that took the lives of three people, as well as a law

enforcement officer killed shortly thereafter during the manhunt and left 260 others wounded with their lives forever changed. bostonians are marking the day with quiet remembrances to honor the victims, including a wreath laying ceremony earlier this moment morning and a moment of silence at 2:30 p.m. close to the time when the homemade bombs went off four years ago. leland: and georgia using the district as a referendum on the first days of the trump presidency. >> that's why it's so concerning about president trump acts impulsively. he's not only on the world stage, but could start a war. and. leland: if case you're wondering, he's a democrat one of 18 candidates running to fill health ap human services secretary tom price's seats.

it's been republican for decades, home to normal speaker of the house, newt gingrich. that could change. and greg, always good to see you, appreciate you being here on a saturday. >> no problem. leland: all right. so, one of the e-mail blasts from this guy who says we don't have to wait until 2018, 2020 to fight back against donald trump. it's clear how he's working this race and is he working? >> it is. this is supposed to be a sleepy, all republican affair and he's transformed it into a national contest and a lot of theys supporters, one in 20, only one in 20 of his doanser are from georgia. a lot of them saying they want to support him because it's a chance to give donald trump a stinging rebuke. leland: give us an idea how the stinging rebuke would happen. how close is this race? >> it's close. he's in the mid 40's some polls low 40's.

even the pollsters say their models are really, really hard to predict. i've talked to dozens of voters who have never voted before in particular, and are voting in this race. the turnout models could be astronomical. leland: as we learned back in november, sometimes the turnout models don't quite work out perfectly. big money though in this race. it appears as though we lost greg from atlanta. it's worth pointing out how much money is in this race. 8.3 million dollars raised, and big money against him. and when we get greg back we'll play one of the ads against, and we'll see if that's having any traction there. we'll be right back.

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>> and back now to the story we were covering about the 6th congressional district election down in georgia. turning into, if the democrats get their way, as a referendum on the first days of the trump pressy. john ossoff is the democrat there. raised 8.3 million dollars and as our guest pointed out, a lot of that out of state and out of state money attacking, putting

ads on the air. let's listen to those. >> i've got five years as a security-- >> there's a problem. ossoff wasn't fighting against terrorism. he was fighting fence restrictions on keg parties. you see ossoff was just a college kid. leland: back to greg bluestein. nice it would have you back. and back to the election, whether that would be on trump, in cap sass, mike pompeo's seat. we got not only the vice-president getting involved with a robo call, but the president trump tweeting out, telling them to get out to the polls, we needed, in president trump's words, that person in congress. are we seeing the same heavy weights showing up in atlanta that would give the indication at that republicans think this is pretty close? >> yeah, not yet. we've seen a ton of national money from republican national groups come in, so they

definitely think it's close. the problem complicating it, there's 11 republicans in the field. so no one can-- big republican groups are wary of looking like they're supporting one of the 11 republicans and many of those leading republicans are fighting each other as much as ossoff. some of them are reluctant to even say donald trump's name and others are running as donald trump loyalists. it's making it hard for national groups or trump or pence to weigh into the race. leland: fascinating, as your reporting pointed out the difference how mitt romney won that in a landslide and donald trump by only a couple of points. we'll look back to you throughout this week and obviously folks will be checking the ajc page for your reporting. this race happens on tuesday. good talking to you, sir. >> thank you for having me. leland: all the best. liz. elizabeth: the hot topic, the debate over sanctuary cities, the capital of michigan,

lapsing declared itself a sanctuary series and they're backing out. voting to rescind as sanctuary status. is the city bowing to the trump threats and why change so soon. and joining us now, kathy, thank you for joining us. i want to specifically start with lansing, michigan and broaden this conversation out because i know you're passionate about it. but we heard from the mayor and he had set a number of orders, first and foremost, employees can't inquire about immigration status with some of the employees-- players, rather and police are prohibited from holding immigrants for ice officials. so what difference dos this particular vote make? >> first of all, let me clarify that when we talk about detainers, we're talking about not holding folks on detainer without a warrant. so if there's a criminal warrant for someone we would definitely hold them on detainer and definitely do what we can to get crime off the streets. i just want to make that clear.

the restriction on detainers is specific to for immigration only, not for crimes. elizabeth: does it matter what the city council designates when the mayor passes these particular orders? >> that's a really good point. we are in practice a sanctuary city. the policies that are in place right now are typical of sanctuary locations. i don't like that word, i'm going to say that clearly. this word is adopted in the 1980's. it's not by choice of words. i would call us a due process city. we're talking not discriminating. if you're stopped on the street, you're not asked about your immigration status. if it doesn't apply to everyone, it shouldn't to anyone. that's how i look at it in that regard. the city council, what they did, my colleagues voted in the majority, i did not, they vote today remove the word sink sanctuary city because they thought it was causing too much controversy. it does, because it's political.

but it's not practice. so the words themselves are not actionable. elizabeth: i want your take on president trump's executive order because i know you've done a lot of research on this and the attorneys coming out yesterday saying that it's going to be a very narrow amount of funds and specific funds that they're going to be rescinding from some of these cities and i want to ask you, what specifically are you most at odds with, with that specific executive order? >> that order is constitutional swiss cheese. elizabeth: why? >> that's the only way i can describe it. elizabeth: why? >> it is-- it's completely, it's unactionable. it's overbroad. i with a -- i was really grateful trump's attorney in response to santa clara did narrow the scope of it. elizabeth: they narrowed the scope of it because congress makes a lot of those decisions so there's going to be some, you know, some moves the administration is going to have to make, but when he--

when the president says he's working to make the communities safer i want to hear your argument that you're making the community safer by having a sanctuary city. >> i think the arguments are when you have trust between the iz citizens and police departments, we're a community placing community and our police chief is in favor of this. when people are not afraid to be in the shadows and folks are comfortable to talk with officers if they're victims of crimes we keep the community safer. elizabeth: kathy, i only have 30 seconds left, but i want to ask you this, because what works for lansing may not work for other cities. and so, i want to ask you what is your constructive advice to the administration as opposed to saying this isn't going to work, this is swiss cheese. we're not going to work with this? >> i would say, truly, figure out what you're trying to do here. if you're trying to fight crime, fight crime. but think about the families. i mean, we're talking about an administration that's supposedly espouses family

values and there are many, many american citizen children who have undocumented parents, and is your goal to rip those family's part. elizabeth: well, to be fair, the president has been-- has softened his stance and dreamers and a lot of other things. he doesn't want to split families. unfortunately that's all the time we have, but i appreciate the healthy debate, thank you. >> thank you. leland: a lot of news this hour, a lot of news next hour as we take a look at one of the tax-day protests around the country. america's news headquarters continues when we return. a heart attack doesn't care what you eat or how healthy you look. no matter who you are, a heart attack can happen without warning. a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another heart attack. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. bayer aspirin.

♪ ♪ leland: it may be a holiday weekend, but the news is certainly not taking a holiday, so we have hour two of "america's news headquarters" from washington. i'm leland vittert. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth prann, here's what's making news right now. here in d.c. and around the world -- country, rather, people are sending a tax day message to the white house. what they want the president to release. leland: north korea putting its military arsenal on full display and issuing a warning to president trump. greg talcott on the ground as the parade happened. elizabeth: and president trump's change of heart, some may say. why now he's getting tough with russia, and is he getting friendly with china? we'll discuss. ♪ ♪

elizabeth: happening now, a tax day march to pressure president trump to release his tax returns. it started just moments ago in new york. it's one of several protests taking place in cities across the country today. bryan llenas is live from the heart of manhattan in bryant park. hey, bryan. >> reporter: hi, liz. some 15,000 people are expected to be here for a tax day march. take a look at the crowd thus farah little bit down here, this is sixth avenue. they're expected to march all the way to trump tower. this is one of 150 marches at least planned around the country, and the man is really to remind -- the plan is really to remind president trump that people still care about his tax returns. they are demanding that the president release his tax returns. in washington, d.c., a march there, protesters expected to pass by the irs building and the trump hotel. in atlanta and nashville and other places like that, again, all of this is about demanding his tax returns, because they believe, well, he should follow

the precedent. presidents have been releasing their tax returns for the last 40 years, since jimmy carter, and they believe that the president may be hiding something and there may be conflicts of interest or business ties, and that's why they're asking he release his returns. take a listen to some of the protesters we saw today. >> he said, when i get in, i will show you my taxes. not only has he not shown us his taxes, he bragged about not paying them. and every weekend he goes -- he's already spent more money than obama did in his first four years. so, you know, we need to see transparency. >> what is in there that would cause some sort of problem for him? is it because he has, he's heavily invested in foreign banks? does he, does he -- is he really a billionaire? we must constantly have these demonstrations so he will show

his taxes eventually. >> reporter: but, of course, trump supporters say they don't need to see his tax returns. what they want is tax reform. and, look, coloradan -- kellyanne conway said just as much yesterday in january when she said that people just simply don't care. nobody -- he's not going to release his tax returns because that was a campaign issue, and really it's -- people are over it. and so trump supporters are holding some rallies around the country like in colorado springs, there as well, so we can expect others to be there that are pushing and saying we could care less about his tax returns. but we'll keep monitoring the protests throughout the day, liz, as they continue. elizabeth: all right. bryan llenas, thank you so much. leland? leland: well, big concern this weekend at the pentagon and elsewhere that north korea will push the button on another nuclear test. this as the country defiantly parades new missiles through their capital as we speak, vice president mike pence is in the

air to south korea to send a message to the north and to reassure our allies in the south. doug mckelway joins us with more on this multipronged u.s. response. doug, in so many ways it seems like the chinese are in the middle, and if you listen to president trump, as the mediator. >> reporter: yeah, so what to make of that, that's really the million dollar question, leland, and it's significant because china has tremendous economic and military leverage over kim jong un in north korea. here's what they said earlier in a statement today: >> reporter: but recall that earlier this week china took the highly unusual step of abstaining from a u.n. security council vote to condemn syria for its chemical attack. it almost votes with russia, but it did not do so this time. in addition, china this week

blocked north korea's exports of coal, another significant step which some suggest indicates china is siding with the u.s. position on north korea. well, as speculation swirls over china's role, north korea today rolled out a new intercontinue innocental ballistic missile in its founders day parade. that delighted kim jong un who did not speak publicly, but one of his top officials warned that the north would stand up to any thstates. all that as the carl vinson carrier battle group steamed closer to north korea, its destroyers are capable of shooting down missiles. adding to the volatility, the trump administration's resumption of a more aggressive posture in foreign policy, an about face from the obama doctrine of leading from behind. >> i think if kim jong un had any tout that the united states, under the leadership of president trump, was willing to do what's necessary to defend our territory, i can't imagine he doubts that now. >> reporter: and some argue that even if this more

aggressive u.s. posture creates uncertainty, it is worth the risk. >> when north korea gets the capability to drop an icbm with a nuclear warhead on the united states, iran will have it the next day for the right price. >> reporter: bolton argues that the obama policy of strategic patience was really just synonymous with doing nothing. leland? leland: as you point out, there's this big change in foreign policy. how is this affecting domestic politics as congress is on easter break? >> reporter: well, congress is being urged to forgo the remainder of its easter recess according to nancy pelosi, today she issued a statement in which she said, speaker ryan must call congress back into session for classified briefings and debate. congress must do its duty and honor our responsibility to the constitution. there's been no indication the speaker intends to do that, however. leland: well, we'll met you know if it changes. doug mckelway covering it all. thanks, doug. >> reporter: my pleasure.

leland: liz has more. elizabeth: north korea celebrates its most important holiday of the year, the birth of its founding ruler. the country often time correlates or has nuclear tests with important dates such as this one, putting the u.s. and allies on high alert. fox news correspondent greg talcott filed this report from inside pyongyang. >> reporter: elizabeth, only only -- ominous signals on the day of the parade marking the anniversary of kim kim ill sung. take a look. the experts look hard at the hardware, trying to find anything new and nefarious. this year they're looking at whether the regime is getting closer to building an icbm, an intercontinental ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead capable of hitting the united states. all eyes on the rockets. in fact, while no new nuclear test or missile launch marked the date as feared, experts say

two new intermediate-range missiles weren on display as well as prototypes for intercontinental ballistic missiles. the fear is north korea could develop an icbm which could, in fact, hit the united states. meanwhile, north korean leader kim jong un happily enjoyed this government-organized love fest, and it turned out to be a hate fest for the united states. his top aide saying in a speech that his country would defiantly confront the united states with full-out war using nuclear strikes. and as tens of thousands of civilians got into the act, even donald trump got a shout-out from state media, branding his statements as military hysteria and as dangerous. experts, in fact, though say the confrontation with the u.s. works for kim jong un. it helps cement his role and helps distract the public from other problems inside this country. still, he is dangerous. elizabeth. elizabeth: greg talcott reporting there.

despite no nuclear missile tests so far, tensions between the u.s. and north korea are rising. here to weigh in, author of "nuclear showdown," gordon chang. thank you so much for joining us, gordon, we appreciate it. >> thank you, elizabeth. elizabeth: focus across the globe are bracing for a test this weekend, but, in fact, another network said you didn't think it would take place this weekend. why? >> well, after the missile strikes that president trump authorized on syria, he did that while xi jinping, the ruler of china, was next to him. china and syria are really good friends, and i think what happened was that the chinese were stunned. they then lost whatever confidence that they had that they would be able to control trump, and they think probably that they couldn't figure him out anymore. so i think what the chinese did was work with the north koreans to make sure there were no provocations on day of the sun, and that's exactly what happened. now, we're going to have to see what north korea does. they could detonate this nuke sometime, they certainly will. they've already sealed it in a

tunnel, they've completed all the initial preparations. they've got to go forward at some time. but this is a real test of how much leverage beijing has over pyongyang, and so far i think the chinese are winning. elizabeth: elaborate a little bit on the relationship between beijing and north korea. if i'm not mistaken, in 2017 the trade between the two countries has increased up to 37%. so what is the end game here in beijing? what is the goal that they're trying to obtain? >> yeah, i think the short-term goal is that they want to use north korea against the u.s. because every time north korea does something provocative, we then become distracted in our conversations with china over issues that we think are important such as cyber theft, red story trade practices -- predatory trade practices, you name it. and also we always send a secretary of state to beijing to plead for their cooperation, so beijing thinks this endlessly creates bargaining chips for them.

so, yeah, they want to continue this. and they will put pressure on north korea, but only when we put pressure on them. when we become distracted and look somewhere else, we know that the chinese are then going to go back to their default position of supporting pyongyang. elizabeth: you know, obviously, it's no secret the u.s. has shown its military might over the past two weeks, and i'm curious as to the fine line the united states has to walk between provoking north korea and deterring them. and how does the trump administration do that? >> well, this is very difficult, because the kim regime is difficult to read. but on the other hand, we have a pattern of dealing with them since the end of the korean war, and we can work this problem. but on the other hand, we know that within four years the north koreans will be able to mate a nuke to their longest range missiles and reach the lower 48 states. they already have the missiles to reach us, they just can't put the nuke on top of them, but we know they've put it on an intermediate range missile which

can hit japan. we really don't have luxury of time to figure this out. we've got to work hard but, you know, we can do it if we pay attention. unfortunately in the past, we pay attention at crises times, and then after that we look someplace else, and the north koreans then just progress with their missile and nuke programs. breath elizabeth perhaps we'll see -- elizabeth: perhaps we'll see a difference stance from the trump administration. i do want to ask you ahead of vice president pence's trip to seoul, south korea, what is the u.s. policy going forward, and what type of conversations are we going to see out of this trip? >> yeah. this trip the vice president is very important, the one thing it does do is it reassures our allies in the region, south korea and japan. and we've got to remember that this follows the trips of our secretary of state and secretary of defense, because they also went there. and there is some rumors that trump's first foreign trip will actually be to our allies in the region. that's a very important message that we're delivering. and we have to deliver it one after another official, because

right now we've got some pretty nervous allies in the region. elizabeth: gordon, we appreciate you coming on and sorting this all out. like we said, there's a lot of moving parts. thank you very much. >> thank you, elizabeth. re well, zoom out a little bit here. as gordon just talked about, the linchpin of the trump policy towards north korea is china. and president trump now calls the chinese president, quote, a terrific person. a big change from the campaign. at the same time saying, quote, we're not getting along with russia at all. again, very different rhetoric than in the campaign. nile gardner, directer of the heritage foundation's margaret thatcher center for freedom, nice to see you, as always, nile. all right, ap article this morning, the headline, world power whiplash. fair critique? >> well, it's talking about the different dynamics between the united states and russia and china. i think what we have seen over the past few days is, certainly, a far tougher signal being sent by washington towards vladimir putin. and so --

leland: how's he responding to that? >> well, certainly the russians are not taking it very well, and i think this is actually a very, very positive development, the fact that donald trump is standing up to vladimir putin. this this sends the right signal on the world stage, and american leadership is vitally important in the face of russian aggression in europe, in the face of russian aggression also in the middle east. and i think there's a very clear understanding now in the white house that russia's not our friend. they're not a a potential partner. they're an adversary, and the united states has to stand up to moscow on the world stage. we're seeing that, certainly, at this time. leland: stand up implies that at some point you are going to have two forces coming together. whether it be over ukraine, whether it be over syria and chemical weapons use. is there a risk that donald trump has gone from wanting to have a good relationship with putin and calling him a strong leader to now saying, gee, we have a terrible relationship,

that one of those two sides is going to have to do something to show that they're tougher than the other one and, thus, when militaries do that, it often ends with people dying. >> well, i think the only message that mr. putin and his dictatorial regime understand is a message of strength. and the united states has to project that, that strength. you have to not only combine very strong language and rhetoric on the world stage, you have to also add in -- leland: the russians were, were the russians surprised by the syria strikes, in other words? >> i think it did take them by surprise, actually. i think the russians had the impression that they were going to be dealing with a president who was far more willing to work closely with them or accommodate their interests. that clearly is not the case. and we have seen, you know, resolve, strength being projected. also, of course, a significant rebuilding of u.s. military power. in order to keep the peace in the world, you have to have a strong military. and we are seeing, i think, the foundation being built now. leland: and we saw that during the cold war.

the namesake of your center is margaret thatcher and ronald reagan came together and built throughout the 1980s sort of this peace through strength philosophy, a huge run-up in military spending, bankrupt the soviet soviet union. how are vladimir peaten and his advisers -- putin and his advisers or cronies, for that matter, changing their algorithms as they look at the united states right now? >> yeah. i think that a lot of the strategic thinking in moscow at the early stage of the trump presidency was flat out wrong. they underestimated the president. he's looking very, very forceful, he's willing to use military strength as we've seen in syria and afghanistan. and i think the russians are getting the message. and we're also seeing a bigger u.s. military buildup in europe for a strong support for ukraine. and also, of course, very, very strong backing for washington from the nato alliance. and the nato alliance is fundamentally important to keeping the russians at.

leland: well, and the russians aren't backing down, this morning coming out from the united kingdom that two big russian warships just passed through the russian channel in response to all this. hardly you could say that is a coincidence. nile, great having you here. >> my pleasure, thank you. leland: liz? elizabeth: well, fox news can confirm that first lady melania trump and her 11-year-old son barron will be moving to the white house this summer after the school year ends. now it is confirmed. the two have been staying at trump tower in new york since the inauguration. barron will be the first son living in the white house since jfk jr. back in 1963. a senior official tells fox news that the first lady has been fully immersed in arranging the white house for the move. coming up, frightening moments for hundreds of travelers at one of the country's busiest train stations. plus, we're going to take a closer look at president trump's approval ratings and whether his strikes on syria and afghanistan are having an effect on them.

also, caught on tape, a texas-sized tornado. are more twisters like this coming? let's go to fox extreme weather center adam klotz for the very latest. of adam? >> reporter: yeah, we do see thiess a chance of that as we're looking at another area where severe weather could be firing up today. i'll have the details on that coming up. break through your allergies. try new flonase sensimist instead of allergy pills. it's more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. most allergy pills only block one. and six is greater than one. break through your allergies. new flonase sensimist but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one.

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leland: from last night's rush hour at penn station, there were some scary moments for folks n.dz false reports of a gun sent them rushing to the street. amtrak police did use a taser gun on a man who was causing a disturbance in the station. that led to rumors that people heard gunshots, causing them -- as you can see -- to rush for the exits. the station was more crowded than usual. friday afternoon rush hour, and there had been a train that got stuck in a tunnel causing delays of 90 minutes or more. in the stampede 16 people suffered non-threatening injuries amidst it all. wow. and some lost bags. elizabeth: well, as americans celebrate easter and passover across the country this weekend, some of them may have to teal with some potentially severe storms and tornadoes just like

this one in texas. it was caught on tape by storm chasers. adam klotz joins us now from new york with the very latest on what's in store today. hi, adam. >> hello there. yeah, eventually we may see some of that severe weather before the weekend's over, but as of right now, large portions of the country looking at a gorgeous forecast. close to 80 in kansas city, in chicago, stretching off towards thest, really warm, pleasant weather. but this cold air just a little farther off to the west, that's an area where eventually we could spark some severe weather. still mostly clear, looking at a little bit of rain across theesy beginning to see some showers spark back off along the west right along with that frontal boundary is. this is going to be an event that takes place more throughout the overnight hours, getting late this evening and early easter sunday morning. i'm talking about an area stretching from chicago off towards the west down into

portions of oklahoma, maybe into a couple of spots of north texas. here's an hour-by-hour forecast and, again, things are looking mostly clear right now. pay attention to the time stamp up in the corner, we're looking good until at least 10:00 tonight, so there's a nice long span to enjoy saturday. beginning to see a little more activity firing up through the overnight hours. what am i concerned about, very heavy rains, strong winds, hail, maybe an isolated tornado. the possibility is there all along this frontal boundary that moves across the country. otherwise, what are we looking at for your sunday? as we track that line of storms, other folks are going to be talking about really warm air. that warm air shifts farther off towards the east, and 84 in new york city, 81 in boston, so easter sunday i think for most folks it's looking like a really nice forecast to get out and hunt some of those eggs. elizabeth: adam, thank you. so. appreciate it. leland: all right. now for the moment the internet

has waited for. here it is it is. april the giraffe -- and, liz, i know you were worried -- has finally had her baby this morning. this is a look at mama and her new calf. we have, thankfully, spared you the birth video. april gained fame after the park where she lives in new york began a video live stream to show the progress of her pregnancy. the park said this is april's fourth calf. so she's an experienced mother. and for all you who thought this was an april fools joke, here you go. elizabeth: you know what? i read this morning there was 1.2 million people who streamed the birth live on youtube. that does not include the zoo's facebook page, so i will admit that i think a lot of people are glad that their births are not broadcast. but, you know what? you're not a giraffe. leland: and it was worth it for toys r us. [laughter] elizabeth: very cute. still ahead, congress facing a tight deadline to pass a budget when members return from the

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♪ ♪ leland: friendly viewer announcement. it is april 15th, and if you suddenly asked yourself, did i file my taxes, you are not alone. but you are not late, as a matter of fact. the filing deadline this year is actually tuesday, april 18th, so go back toen enjoying your saturday. -- to enjoying your saturday. in case you were wondering, the date has been moved for two reasons. first, the 15th falls on a weekend, so you get a grace

period, and the other is that monday is a holiday here in d.c., so you get another grace period. [laughter] elizabeth: a holiday -- leland: enjoy. elizabeth: -- we will take it. when congress returns from recess, lawmakers will have just a few days to pass a budget and avoid a government shutdown, but it may be an uphill battle, because president trump's proposed budget has raised eyebrows even with members inside his own party. joining us now to break it all down is the senior vice president of the committee for a responsible federal budget. i like that, responsible federal -- thank you so much for joining us, mark. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: first and foremost, yes, we do want to keep the lights on. we don't have a ton of time to do it, but i want to ask you when we talk about the budget, there is so much that cannot be changed. and why is that? >> we're actually debating two budgets right now. we're debating fiscal year 2017 which we need to pass in a couple of weeks and fiscal year 2018. but we're only debating 30% of all spending. elizabeth: why is that?

>> we're only looking at discretionary spending. this is the agency money -- defense, education, department of interior -- that congress decides every year. the other 70 cents out of every dollar is entitlement spending, social security and medicare -- beth elizabeth we heard campaign rhetoric that there may be changes to entitlement spending. is that a possibility? >> we need changes to our entitlements, that's where most of the money is, and our budget is far, far out of balance. but president trump has said he won't touch -- elizabeth: baby boomers, he can't. >> that's right. this pledge is not sustainable forever. we have to make changes to social security. but the problem is, if we keep this promise for just a few years, the changes done in the future are going to be even more painful. elizabeth: okay, so separate it for me. what are we talking about that comes on april 28th, what do we need to accomplish for that particular budget? we hear some of the things that president trump wants to change, and that's for 2018. >> right. so for april 28th the big thing we need to do is just keep the lights on, just extend what we're doing right now.

we can make some changes on the margins, but the real debate is what are we going to do the next year. but then the real important debate is the 10, 20 and 30 years after that was that's when our -- because that's when our debt gets out of control. elizabeth: okay. so let's talk -- i want your interpretation and break down of president trump's proposal for 2018. >> here's all he's told us so far, he wants to increase defense spending by about $50 billion and pay for it by cutting nondefense spending, state department cut, cuts to nih, epa. but he's only talking about 30% of the budget in one year. he's missing the other 70 cents out of every dollar. elizabeth: okay, so what would be something that you would propose? how could you find a middle ground between what he's proposing and what is really the status quo? >> well, i think some defense hikes make sense given the sequester cuts, but what we really need to do is things like raise the social security retirement age, change medicare

to pay more for value instead of justin quantity of care and start making gradual changes to these large spending programs that are driving the entire budget. elizabeth: when he talks about the proposals on making some of those cuts to nondiscretionary, and they turn out to be unpopular with people who are affected, and sometimes those are his base, how does he walk that fine line in still making those certain cuts, getting rid of some of the waste but keeping his base happy? and some of those programs are necessary, some of those programs in the budget are necessary. >> he's proposing pretty deep cuts in some areas. i think we can focus where the real waste is and instead, as i said before, our largest program is social security. our second largest is medicare. our third largest is defense, our fourth largest is medicaid. no cuts to those programs. elizabeth: you're not going to see it in 2018. >> i don't think so, but even if we make gradual changes that phase in over time, it would do a heck of a lot more good than cutting another billion dollars out of nih. elizabeth: so he can propose

those, but my question is, is he going to get that approval from congress? >> even president obama had $400 billion of medicare savings in his budget. if president trump can't get as much savings as president obama, we're in big trouble. elizabeth: all right, mark, thank you so much for that preview. we'll see what happens. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: appreciate it. leland? leland: a division among the ranks. which wing of the president's counsel has his ear and why it matters. our political panel on that coming up. and a holy tradition on the eve of easter sunday. a look at how christians are preparing where it all began, in jerusalem. ♪ ♪

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to twitter saying: trump voters, don't let liberals mislead you on so-called flip-flops. it comes amid major policy shifts on china, syria and some domestic issues and has some supporters wondering if the president is, perhaps, abandoning or looking at other options for his america-first promise. that talk about it, eric beech is the co-chairman of the great america alliance. i guess you can figure out what the name of it that everything is a donald trump supporter. eric, reasonable people could agree that the president has, pick your adjective, flip-flopped, changed his mind, evolved in his positions on a number of issues. does it matter? >> no. during the campaign and in his first 85 days, many of those on the other side have questioned both his experience and temperament. they should take comfort that he's able to modify his positions in the interest of all americans. china, for example, he recently had a meeting -- by all account,

a very productive meeting with the chinese president down in florida -- and we're seeing positive steps in terms of looking at north korea. so i think you're having a president who ran a campaign. he was very explicit in what he was going to do as president. and he's taken a lot of steps toward all of those goals. leland: in that vein, is the liberal outrage a little much when it comes to the donald trump flip-flops in the sense that he's, quote-unquote, flip-flopping to a position that is far more palatable to the liberal base? >> you know, this is kind of like giving a high school algebra student an a because he can add two plus two. the president just caught up with where we were years ago. everything that he has flip-flopped on has been a position that we have been talking about for over, in fact, since the beginning of the obama presidency. most of this stuff has come into play. we talked about syria, we talked about -- leland: okay, okay, joe, joe, joe -- >> he's been flip-flopping -- leland: there's some facts here that matter, and the fact of the

matter is that president obama talked about syria, drew a red line, didn't enforce it after the serin gas attack, and donald trump did enforce it -- >> wait a minute, though. this is where we will disagree. he went and bombed an air base that planes took off of the next day and continued to shell that area and also didn't destroy the chemical weapons. i'm actually kind of curious what we can believe coming out of this white house. the most hoodwinked people in this country have got to be the people who invested so much time and money and sweat and tears into him believing that the america first policy was real, that he was going to back us out of nato, that he was going to reset with russia. all of these things which none of them he has panned out on because they were never possible, and we've been saying that for years. leland: eric, i'm going to let you respond to being hood winked in a minute -- [laughter] but there has been, in fairness, a part of the american electorate, a part of donald trump's supporters who have become pretty angry over all this. there's a number of talk show

radio hosts who have talked about it, a number of folks on twitter, there's a big part of the breitbart community 245's going, hey, this is not exactly what we signed up for. >> in his first 85 days, you know, we were able to put a constitutional conservative on supreme court, you know? illegal immigration's going down drastically. he has taken steps towards tax reform and other reform agenda items that he ran on. look, he showed true grit during the campaign. we have a boer nation, and every single time he moves the needle, he's in a negotiating posture. and i think results matter. joe mentioned president obama. president obama did a lot of talking during his tenure, and right now we have a president that's a president of action, he's a president that, you know, he shows that he has the experience and leadership to put americans first. those are his policies, and those are what's being -- those are the policies that are being executed. >> except his base is not happy about this, right?

we got involved in syria after he promised us he wouldn't, and, in fact, after he chastised the prior president for even thinking about that action. so all of this is just, i mean, the biggest con continues. and it's not just me, by the way. this is something republicans said throughout the primary. throughout the primary ted cruz and marco rubio made this case to republicans, and they didn't believe it. and it's all just coming to a head now. leland: eric, i'm going to give you the last word if you actually answered the question, i'm not going to give you a chance to say yes or no. there's no question that donald trump has changed some of his views. what's the answer, what's your answer to republicans who say, wait a second, that's not what you promised, that's not what i voted for? >> well, first of all, he doesn't have a base, he doesn't have a ceiling of voters. he speaks for all americans. fdr did this -- >> whoa, whoa, whoa, he doesn't speak for all voters. [laughter] >> he does. he's the president of the united states. >> no, that doesn't mean --

>> his number one job as president of the united states is to protect all americans, and results matter. we had a president, his predecessor, that had a lot of talk and rhetoric, but results matter. you have to look at the results of the last 90 days, and you have to -- >> overturned executive orders, backed out of his non-lobbying ban already, already put six goldman sachs officials on. i mean -- >> so president obama -- joe, president obama had 275 executive orders. i don't remember any democrats coming on to shows talking about those executive orders. >> i was on this network a lot talking about those executive orders. leland: all right, fellas. and somehow the easter weekend did not breed more camaraderie and friendship among men. joe, eric, appreciate it, guys. always a good conversation. >> thanks for having us. elizabeth: well, have recent military strikes in syria and afghanistan boosted president trump's approval? we're going to take a closer look right after the break. and christians around the world including thousands in

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♪ ♪ leland: observers on both sides of the aisle agree the past ten days have been among the best

for president trump. from the gorsuch confirmation to the mother of all bombs in afghanistan, and it's showing in the polls. the latest gallup poll of mr. trump's job approval stands at 40%, up five points from late march. pollster lee carter, joins us from new york to talk about it. lee, always great to see you. >> great to to be here. leland: correlation or causation? >> you know, i think there's a number of factors that are going into what's happening right now. a lot of people are saying this is the strength of syria, of the attack on syria that he's taking, the military strength he's taking, but i actually think part of it was the gorsuch p confirmation, which you just mentioned. we saw things starting to soften. i've seen independents softening in their support for donald trump, because they expected him to come down to washington, they wanted to see things done differently, get things done, and i think a lot of people have been very disappointed that tax reform hasn't been done,

immigration beenen didn't get done, health care's not getting done, and the fact that there's some activity is making people optimistic. i think it's a combination of getting gorsuch confirmed, the military action we're seeing, and i think these numbers are going to continue to tick up just a little bit more after the mother of all bombs attack because i don't think these numbers have taken into impact that -- leland: yeah, gallup's was in the field before the bombing in afghanistan. if we follow this curve, sort of we're on the upswing, right? come wednesday or thursday you get the mother of all bombs numbers baked into this, and all of a sudden congress comes back. you've got a government shutdown to deal with. democrats aren't going to play ball on that. the president said he wants to do health care before he does taxes, as you point out, no movement on taxes. seems unlikely that that's going to get done anytime before summer. does it, do you risk just sort of crashing down off that wall again? >> yeah. i think that he's really going to, i think maybe the peaks of his numbers until he really

starts to get things done. people want tax reform done. people are -- even support on health care is getting less. people are starting to support obamacare more and more because the republicans have not made a case for what they're going to do that's going the make people comfortable. if they don't come back from this two week recess with some real action, some steps they're going to take, i don't think these numbers are going to be improving at all. leland: as you point out, some independents have been pleased, as you might say, with the gorsuch confirmation, with the syria attack, which, as you said, doing something. politico had a very interesting peeing. the headline -- piece. the headline, trump base turns on him. it was like here's the chance to do something different, and that's why people's hopes are dashed. there was always the question of, quote, did he really believe this stuff. apparently, the answer is not as much as you'd like. lee strahan, former breitbart news writer. what's the trade-off between his

base and, as you pointed out, independents who are now warming to him? >> well, look, i think the bottom line is this: donald trump, of the white men who voted, one in four had voted for barack obama. so he's got a lot of people that have shifting ideologies. but he does have his base of people who have really put their faith in this man who said you are finally going to get things done for him. now, i think for people to say that support is softennenning is not quite true yet, because i think a love of his base, and we hear from them on twitter an awful lot right now, they get really excited when he makes announcements about jobs coming back, and they're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. i think there are some true conservatives who voted for donald trump maybe not fully supporting him who are disappointed that more is not getting done and worried about how his ideology seems to be shifting. i think among supporters, the support is still there. i think, though, people are questioning, they want to see things happen. and these shifting deadlines, it

was going to be april, then it's august, and we're not so sure, that's making people really uncomfortable. leland: well, we've heard that sentiment as you point out whether it be about tax reform, immigration, health care repeal, replace of obamacare, it all seems to be taking longer than anybody -- especially the president -- would have liked. lee carter, appreciate your insights. always a great conversation. >> great to be here. leland: happy easter to you and yours. >> happy easter to you. elizabeth: up next, we're going to take a look at how'ser is being celebrated -- easter is being celebrated around the world. plus, a unique tradition in michigan involving a shower of sugary snacks. leland: oh, yeah, there we go. elizabeth: i think we all wish we were there. we'll explain after the break. ♪ the easter bunny is coming to town today. ♪ here's hoping he's hip hippity-hopping your way.

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(group conversation) ♪wooooo oo waa ahhh ♪it's a beautiful mornin' thank you ♪ahhh, ah ahhh ♪each bird ♪ ♪ leland: well, easter celebrations are already taking place around the world today including, of course, in vatican city. holy week is an entire celebration. pope francis is leading services at the packed st. peter's basilica, and thousands of christians are arriving in jerusalem to attend what is known as the ceremony of holy fire. yets pretty crowded in there -- gets pretty crowded in there, i can tell you that. according to christian tradition, the site of jesus' death, burial and resurrection. elizabeth: and the place where you have been many times. on a much lighter note, kids

in wayne county, michigan, are experiencing an unusual forecast this weekend, cloudy with a chance of, you guessed it, marshmallows. more than 20,000 of the sweet treats were dropped from a helicopter for children to collect. they don't have to eat them if they can resist. kids can trade in the marshmallows for a prize. so here's the million dollar question, if you did get a marshmallow, would you eat it or turn it in for a prize? leland: well, with 20,000, you grab a handful, eat a few on the way to get a prize. elizabeth: if they're just getting dropped on the ground, you probably don't want to eat 'em. leland: okay, you probably wouldn't -- [laughter] but claire, any other kid, would be more than happy to pick those up. elizabeth: that's true. leland: a lot of news this weekend, still watching north korea. we've got greg talcott9 there in the capital, that's something that president trump is clearly watching from down in mar-a-lago. elizabeth: yeah. he's down there celebrating

easter with his family, and we wish you a very happy holiday weekend. thank you so much for joining us. that's all for us here in washington. leland: we'll be back tomorrow. have a great saturday. ♪ ♪ derek derek north korea flexing its -- eric: north korea flexing its military muscle in that big parade as well as thousands of troops all to celebrate the birthday of kim jong un's grandfather, the country's late founding ruler. but so far this has been no new nuclear test. hello and welcome to "america's news headquarters" this afternoon, i'm eric shawn. julie: welcome to you. i'm julie banderas. the annual celebration comes amid growing concerns the regime could be on the verge of conducting its sixth nuclear test.