>> jon: that police knew conference coming up, see you back here and in our. >> jenna: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> sandra: breaking news on the suspect in a cleveland facebook murder. police say he is now dead. we are awaiting a news conference from officials in cleveland, set to start any minute. let's get pursed stomach first to peter doocy. >> we know that as of two hours ago, police said they had about 400 total tips from across the country of people who were calling in from as far away as texas who say they saw the alleged facebook killer, steve stephens, but it ended up being a pennsylvania state police officer who was an pursuit of -- we don't know what cargo he was in at this point, but they told

us two hours ago that he was still in the 2016 white ford fusion that he was seen last at the murder scene with. we know that the last known communication with this alleged facebook killer was on sunday afternoon easter when this man allegedly pulled right up to the sidewalk and just executed somebody who was picking up aluminum cans on the sidewalk. a complete stranger that he did not know and then nobody knew where he was until today, until about some point in the last hour when they believe that law enforcement officers were pursuing him. he stopped somewhere on a road and pennsylvania in erie county which is less than two hours away from here in cleveland, it's about two hours away and at some point after the car stops, there was a gunshot and steve stephens was dead. we don't know if he was by himself, we don't know if the police got to him because of one

of these of 400 or so tips and we don't know if anybody is going to be collecting the $50,000 reward that was offered up last night to try to encourage everybody in the country to try to keep their eyes peeled. it is notable that he was found less than two hours away from here because overnight, as far away as california, law enforcement agencies, they had these billboards up on the side of the road that had a picture of his face and a picture of it as a vehicle that they believe he was in. they thought he could have been basically anywhere in the continent of the united states and he ended up and pennsylvania less than two hours away from here. this is something that even though he didn't make his way onto the fbi most wanted list, he was the top priority for all law enforcement agencies in this area because again, he posted a video of himself allegedly murdering someone and then said in a separate video that he was going to go and do the same

thing again. there are a lot of things and to give you a sense of how quickly this is happening, just two hours ago, they gathered law enforcement agencies from federal state and city were at a press conference at city hall here and they told us that they really did not know where he was. they have not heard from them since sunday. they have not gotten any hits on his temporary license plate on the 2016 white ford fusion that he was believed to be driving. they had no idea where he was. they were pleading with the public to help find this person and they were saying that somebody thought they saw him, don't worry if you don't know with the help line is, just call 911. he was that dangerous. it ends up being lucky for public safety purposes that it was police officers, some sort

of law enforcement that spotted him. at this time, it appears of the suspect was so scared basically of what was going to come next after he saw a police car behind him that he took his own life. we don't know yet and we hope to learn soon if these police officers and started him to stop. we don't know if there was any kind of a roadblock, how many vehicles it was, this is something we hope to learn the next 10 minutes or so. this is a press conference that we didn't know if he would get today. they told us this morning, we'll let you know if we get an update, you might not hear from us again. they told us to get back to city hall by noon, so we do have a camera inside right now. we're just waiting to find out some more details about this. the big headline, this alleged facebook killer has now killed himself.

>> sandra: the irony of all of it is at the pennsylvania police who as you pointed out, as of this morning, had no idea where this man was. confirmed on facebook of the facebook killer's death. we are awaiting that press conference, we'll bring it to you when it happens. what we do know and what depends when you police are confirming on his facebook page, he was spotted by police who attempted a traffic stop and after a brief pursuit, stevens shot and killed himself. he also point out we don't know who was with him, who knew of his whereabouts, and that we will hopefully learn in this press conference a little bit later on. the facebook killer has killed himself. the big discussion continues to be, facebook liability and all of this and their responsibility for monitoring, obviously, this type of activity. >> his facebook friends were

able to see this video of him executing a helpless senior citizen on the sunny sidewalk on easter sunday for over two hours before anybody from facebook was able to do anything. we understand that mark zuckerberg is going to speak at some point this afternoon at a separate event for a programmer. we may get some details about what his social media plans to do about this. even though the law enforcement officers from earlier this morning really did not have a concept over the suspect was, they were pretty spot on with their prediction of what was going to happen. the official who was upstairs from the u.s. marshals service said that he thought, as of this morning, the alleged facebook killer was either dead or someone was helping him by letting him crash at their plac place. within two hours, one of those predictions ended up becoming true. again, there are a lot of things

that these law enforcement agencies were saying at these press conferences for the last few days. they did appear to be speaking directly to steve stephens. they were saying turn yourself in, give us a call, there are clergy that you already have spoken to that you know here in cleveland that are willing to help you, they don't know if the message was being heard. the last they heard from him actually was on sunday when somebody called 911 and said my facebook friend steve stephens just posted a video of him shooting someone in the head and that person is now dead. a detective here called steve stephens cell phone and he picked up in the detective told him, it's really time for you to come in and turn yourself in, just end this now. they do not have any luck with that and from there, what they did know where he was, they didn't know what direction he was heading, and they were really desperate to get him. they said that they did not have

any evidence -- the 13 people that stevens claimed to have killed and one of his facebook rants, but they did have very clear evidence against him in the death of this 74-year-old innocent man on the streets of cleveland and because of that evidence and because they said they believed he still has the pistol, they were very, very desperate to catch this person as soon as possible. it does seem like it was the hard work of all law enforcement agencies, but it seems like in this case, the pennsylvania state police who spotted him and either scared him just by showing up or convinced him through some other means that it was the end of the road, because he is now dead and it would appear that the threat he posed that he would kill

someone at random and again, we still don't know what happened in his life specifically in the lead up to this. there are reports about financial problems, problems gambling, problems with his love life, somebody would pick a random stranger, kill them, broadcast it, and then to take off, that was obviously a major threat to the public within driving distance of where he wa was. the federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies were all very, very concerned does appear that the threat he posed is now over because he is lying dead on a road or in a car in pennsylvania right now. >> sandra: that's erie county pennsylvania, where police finally closed in on him after he sparked a multistate manhunt. peter doocy, thank you for bringing that breaking news to us. we will go to that press conference when it happens in cleveland. ed henry joined us on the couch

today. good to have you here. we also have dagan and lisa boothe and meghan mccain. >> ed: remarkable that it took quite a while that he was roaming around several states potentially. as peter was laying out, all the way to california, they were wondering if he could have driven all that way. he winds up in pennsylvania, thankfully he won't be able to kill anyone else. this is such a gruesome murder. >> sandra: who knew his whereabouts? is tough to get around multiple states without someone knowing where you are. we'll see what we learned that press conference there in cleveland, but then again, we don't know where he was, even as of this morning, police could not confirm his presence. the >> dagen: is surprising given the fact that the murder got so exposure, not just on television, but on facebook. the story, of course we'll find out more about this killer, but the story in the coming weeks and months is going to be what

is facebook doing to stop these videos from appearing? facebook lie was a global priority for facebook founder, mark zuckerberg, and they rolled it out clearly before they had their arms around how they were going to monitor these videos. these videos are monitored by a small group of people, of contractors in the bay area and they're not doing enough in terms of developing technology and software to detect these kinds of videos. it's very difficult. >> ed: remember the horrific case in chicago, only months ago that was broadcast on facebook. >> dagen: there were 50 sensitive videos. >> meghan: we talk about this often because we think that facebook should do more to protect us from terrorism and terror language going on on all forms of social media. when i see things like this, i think of you because you and i are so intense on this, what are they going to do to keep americans safe? they have this magnanimous

power, facebook live is something that many people do every day and you see torture, speed 26, someone being actively murdered, -- >> dagen: 2 billion users so to put that in perspective. they are going to need to hire more people and do a better job of developing the technology to find these videos. waiting more than two hours to get these videos down is an eternity and technology time. more than two hours and took them to remove these videos. they are alerted when there is an explosion and the number of people watching a live video, but that's only way they are often alerted to any kind of activity. >> lisa: speak out the family wt and the fact that a lot of this information was spared via twitter and other social media

platforms. my concern is, we can be upset with facebook and of course, i imagine they will pay on their own accord just how publicly facing mrs. and how disappointing this is. with social media, there are other life sharing platforms as well. what do you do about that in this modern age society? >> dagen: the cleveland police are making it well aware they are holding a press conference, it was expected at noon, obviously they're running a little late. will bring life to you when it happens. an update on the facebook killer, steve stephens, stopped in a traffic stop in erie county pennsylvania after a brief pursuit, police say. he shot and killed himself. this has sparked a nationwide manhunt and megan, going back to your point, a nationwide conversation about facebook, obviously a private company run

by mark zuckerberg, its founder, what their responsibility is in cases like this and gosh forbid, this inspires others. >> ed: absolutely. we were saying earlier amongst ourselves, that united that so much grief and rightly so because of what they did in their own incident. with facebook, there has been outrage about the killer here, but there hasn't been out rage directed at company saying what are you doing? is there any kind of a delay system we could set up where this whole act of going "live," do people really need that ability when clearly, some people are misusing it for killing? it's disgusting. >> sandra: so far, mark zuckerberg has been pretty quiet on this, hasn't he? >> dagen: he said facebook only builds tools for people to commit a cake, it does bear responsibility for how the technology is used. he has admitted that even before this latest murder.

in terms of how facebook cooperates with law enforcement abilities -- authorities, they say they're in touch with law enforcement in emergencies where there are direct threats to physical safety, but beyond that, they will only share basic records with law enforcement like names, login, credit card information under subpoena. >> sandra: going back to how important this is in cleveland, they received more than 400 tips concerning this manhunt for steve stephens. how important that is in tracking down the killer. >> lisa: if you remember, there is a murder of a television correspondent on live tv, on camera. sometimes if people are deranged and they're going to utilize whatever platform they can to get out sort of egregious hate and murder and disgusting things they're doing. there's a variety of platforms out there for sick individuals that are twisted to use.

i think there is a moral responsibility for these companies like facebook to want to help out, particularly when you look at things like terrorism. of course they could to doing more to shut down some of these accounts. >> meghan: we had many conversations about this and apple didn't want to turn over their phones because of civil liberties. if you are a murderer or a terrorist, you don't get liberties or rights anymore. you created heinous acts against soety. thereo caught up in being politically correct in keeping their servers safe and under control but they don't see the larger picture. >> sandra: we are being told that steve stephens, the facebook killer as you see him pictured there, his mother has not responded to news of his death. listen. >> that girl upset him so bad like that. he was a gambler, that's what started all of this.

he was a gambler. the killing part, the guy that he shot, his daughter saw him at my brothers funeral and that's all i had to say. >> you said you knew he was going to do this. why? >> because he came over here the day before and told me mama, i want to come see you. i said, okay. he said mama, this is going to be the last time you see me. is there anything you want to say to me? i says, what is you talking about? he said, that's it, i wanted to see if her last time. i said, whatever you're thinking, i love you, don't go out here and do nothing.

please don't go out here and do nothing stupid, because he was saying like he was going to hurt somebody, but i didn't know it was the serious. he ended his own life. >> what is a bit like in the last 48 hours -- >> sandra: that is the mother of the man accused of killing a cleveland man at random. that was her response. we are now waiting for a response from the cleveland police. our cameras are there, we're waiting for a press conference. he was stopped at a random traffic stop in penylvania. erie county. he then spp after a brief pursuit, shot and killed himself. this is a cleveland police, this morning, they didn't know where he was. there was still a multistate manhunt, a search for this man. he is now dead and we are waiting for this press conference to begin. let's listen. >> please bear in mind that this investigation is in the very early stages and we will take

questions. there is still information to be gathered. speaking this afternoon will be mayor frank jackson, chief calvin williams, a special agent in charge of the cleveland office of the fbi, steve anthon anthony, and pete elliott, u.s. marshal. mayor. >> we have closure in regards to the search for steve stephens. the chief and other law enforcement will give you the details of that. i want to again give our condolence to the family and all of its members and really again, thank them for the way in which they've handled this very tragic situation, not only for them personally, before the community as a large. i also want to thank the community. there is a lot of support from the community, not only in terms of family, but in terms of law enforcement effort and the kind of information and tips that we

were given. i want to thank our partners, the federal state, county, local, and other states law enforcement agencies. finally, i want to emphasize the fact, this particular incident received a lot of attention and rightfully so. it was a loss of innocence. an innocent victim. we, however, have many, many homicides, not only in cleveland, but throughout this nation. ultimately, i believe one of the things this is taught us is that we cannot resolve this underlying issue of violence, particarly gun violence if we do not function and operate and have the same compassion and commitment that we have shown here as a community. finally, i want to thank you, as

the media, you are very helpful to us in keeping things straight, keeping the facts straight, reporting the stories in a way that really helped us to do our job. chief? >> thanks, mary. i want to officially announce that the search for steve stephens has ended. at approximately, a little bit after 11 today, pennsylvania state police officers received a tip that the vehicle that we were looking for, the white ford fusion, was in a mcdonald's parking lot near erie, pennsylvania. those officers responded, the vehicle fled from that area, there was a short pursuit in which the vehicle was stopped. the officers approached the vehicle, steve stephens took his own life. we are grateful to the people

that gave this tip to the pennsylvania state police. we are grateful that this has ended. we would prefer that it had not ended this way, because there are a lot of questions, i'm sure that the family and the city in general would have had for steve as to why this transpired. again, our condolences are still with the family of mr. godwin. you've all heard them on the news lately, they were forgiving, excuse me, were forgiving of steve for committing this atrocious act, and we need to follow their lead. as the mayor stated, there are other victims of the city, around the country, and we continue to work hard to bring closure to those families also. there are a lot of things about this that we don't know. a lot of circumstances that we are still gathering as sergeant stated, we are in the early stages of this.

it's been probably less than an hour since it's transpired. as we get than information, we will get it out. i know that my partners here, steve and pete, would like to come up and say a couple of words. steve? >> just real quick, as we discussed the goal from 2:00 yesterday was to make sure that no one else was a victim of violence by mr. stephens. even though investigation is continuing, we believe that to be the case. that was the number one goal. obviously the other goal was to bring mr. stephens in safely and unfortunately, he chose that not to be the case. again, we thank the public, as we said from day one, roughly 45 hours ago, the public would be key to bringing the tip that was needed to resolve the situation, that's exactly what happened and kudos to the pennsylvania state police were doing an outstanding job in addressing the tip.

with that, pete? >> it real quick, i want to thank all the men and women standing up here for their dedication, but i also want to thank the deputy u.s. marshals, fbi agents, cleveland police officers, all the officers who have been up all night for the last couple nights working on this case, pursuing every single lead. i want to thank them for their dedication and service. thank you. >> we are going to take questions really quick. no information regarding law enforcement tactics are going to be discussed. it will open for questions. >> reporter: can you talk about that pursuit? >> again, we are trying to get that information from the pennsylvania state police officers. we got that information, it was a short pursuit in which the vehicle is stopped, as officers approached the vehicle's, steve his own life.

[indtinct question] >> we searched that area prior, we searched that area initially on sunday when we got that paying up in that area of erie p.a. we are in the process today of going back and doing a more thorough search of that area, both ground and air assets when this transpired. >> reporter: you said previously that either stephens would kill himself or he would be harbored. do you believe he was being harbored? >> again, we don't know. anybody that's been that way east in the erie, pennsylvania, area knows there's a lot of places to hide. there are a lot of remote areas, there are a lot of words, farms and barns and things like that. until we can get our investigators up there to

confirm with the state police officers and really look in the vehicle itself may be tracked back, hopefully some people that may have seen him along the way today, we won't actually know where he was and what he was doing. >> did he shoot is often the head? >> i don't know, we don't know that. >> reporter: you said you don't know where he would be in the u.s. how did you narrow it down? >> i can't comment on that. >> reporter: if you had narrowed it down, is there a reason you wouldn't want that information out there? >> we put out the information, first of all, locally here. we put out the information then statewide and then we came back and be expanded that search. as we got information through leads, through our investigators that have been working day in and day night on this, that we expanded the search area. >> reporter: is there any

information prior to this? >> not that we have right now. again, we are taking a slow, cautious approach with this right now. we're making sure that we go back and retrace as much as possible. there may be connections that we don't know about and if people in that area have may be seen him and i put two and two together over the last couple days, we are still encouraging them to call that fbi tip line. >> reporter: wasn't a violent citizen? >> again, i don't know. [indistinct question] >> i wouldn't say a h level of alert, but we did have people actually on the ground and that area on several occasions looking at not only the surrounding area, but that immediate area. >> reporter: has there been an

increased police presence since sunday? >> no, but our partners were engaged in that area. >> reporter: did he do anything to alter his appearance? >> again, i don't know. this happened less than an hour ago. our investigators are on their way now. we have several of our federal partners already they are conversing with state police in pennsylvania and as soon as we get all those details, we will definitely push that back out. we've spoken with all the families involved, all the families that are really involved with this case here they've been notified and we ask that you guys give them a little space in this because it for them, it's not over. we ask that you give them some space. >> reporter: was in a plan that it ended this way? >> this started with one tragedy and ended with another person taking their own life. a loss of life is a loss of

life. we would like to have brought steve in peacefully and really talk to him about why this happened because there may be other people out there that are in similar situations that we can help by finding out why he did what he did and what drove him to this. we talked about this a little bit a couple days ago. there are people out there who are in a d place or they think they kneel help, they need to reach out and call. an call a division of police and we can forward them to our mental health community here in northeast ohio, but if you are feeling not quite right and you need assistance, you need to reach out and call somebody. we'll get you that help. >> reporter: he said there was a brief pursuit. do you know how long that was? >> short.

i don't have the exact measurements, but that's the same information we got. it was a short pursuit. >> reporter: wear their lights in the whole 9 yards? >> yes, that's how they reported it. we don't have that information. again, as soon as we get the real finite details of this, we'll get it out to everybody. [indistinct] >> it's very early in the investigation. the joint information center for media is still open and it will stay open and if we have more information and its timely, we will continue to put that out. thank you. >> one thing before we leave, the marshall head on it, there were dozens and dozens of officers, not just here in cleveland, but around this country involved in this. i definitely want to thank them. i don't think we could have gone

to a resolution this quickly without their help and definitely, without the public's help. that's always crucial and incidents like this. i want to thank our men and women out there in law enforcement and definitely think the people around the country that called in. again, almost 400 tips on this that we have to follow up on and that just shows the vigilance of the people in this country. [indistinct question] >> the rnc was a big test for us, but we had these partnerships long before the rn rnc. i've known pete for over 15 years, eric from atf, we've worked together in the city for the last 20 years. a lot of people talked about us coming together, we are always together. i call these guys and they are

they are just like that and vice versa. there is no disconnect with law enforcement here in northeast ohio. [indistinct question] >> no, we're not even putting that energy out there. i think everybody has learned from this. i think the people on social media kind of know the power and i think they know the harm it can do. we talked before about people not living their lives on social media and being truthful on social media and not harming people via social media, and this is a prime example. this is something that should have been shared around the world, period. although kids should not have seen this, i'm sure they have. they need to take this as a lesson. we can't do this in this country. we just can't.

>> reporter: you and other law enforcement officials involved, have you had the conversation about this particular instance? >> i have not had personal conversations with any social media outlet. we have direct connections with them, but i'm sure this is it something that's on the radar, may be on some political leaders, city, state, and federal leaders out there to have those conversations, not just with facebook, but all social media. thank you. >> sandra: as you hrd earlier, cleveland mayor jackson saying we have clo o the manhunt for the so-called facebook killer. he was stopped at a random traffic stop after a pursuit that was happening, as we just learned, and erie county pennsylvania. they were in the process of doing a more thorough search in the area. they had ground and air assets

deployed in the area. it was a traffic stop, they pulled him over, he shot and killed himself. he is now dead. yuri pennsylvania is where they finally found him. steve stephens is dead. fox news letter, vice president mike pence and tokyo this morning reassuring japan that america stands 100% behind its key ally. in the face of north korea ramping up its threats of nuclear war. vice president pence doubling down in his tough talks toward north korea as he seeks to reassure our allies. >> the time has come for the international community to use both diplomatic and economic pressure, to bring north korea to a place that it has avoided for more than a generation. we will not rest and we will not

relent until we achieve the objective of a d nuclear rightist korean peninsula. >> sandra: this after the north warns that a nuclear war may break out in a moment and it may conduct missile tests on a weekly basis. meantime, president trump telling fox and friends that unlike other administrations, he won't be broadcasting his plans to deal with the isolated and increasingly aggressive country. >> i want to tell everybody what i'm doing or what i'm thinking. i'm not like other administrations where they say we're going to do this in four weeks. it doesn't work that way. everybody needs -- they've all been outplayed by this gentleman and we'll see what happens. >> what happens if they want another missile? >> will find out. >> sandra: as we heard from the president before, he is not going to telegraph -- >> ed: the world doesn't need to know what our next move will

be, but he's shown himself to be a strong negotiator which is what he promised to do in the campaign. he focused on china. china is the nation that has the most leverage on north korea because it doesn't really have any other trading partners. if you think about it, there's an 880-mile border between china and north korea and that is the reason china sent about 150,000 troops to the border last week because they're concerned about refugees coming across, and for an fact there's a war, they'll have to deal with that. this is also why china is stepping up somewhat to gruesome economic pressure on north kore north korea. if you continue with these provocations, china, we're going to go after them economically and that could cripple their economy. >> sandra: north korea promising weekly missile tests. >> dagen: remains to be seen, it's still in the early stages, turning away the dozen ships that were heading to china, just

one of the things the state run media is talking about. this is early stages, as you pointed out. "the wall street journal" today has a really critical article saying watch beijing's opposition to the missile defense system in south korea. that will get their continued opposition to that will get in the way of them working with us to take care. hours after these staged failed attests, the chinese foreign minister reiterated, their opposition to putting american belt systems in south korea and they started economic reprisals against south korea. that a truly telling in all of this. >> lisa: it's important to not only keep other countries gassing to some degree. depending on what happens in

syria, you need congressional behind you, there needs to be a little bit more of a broader threat there. countries need to know that sending tomahawk missiles into syria and dropping a bomb that has never been dropped before in afghanistan doesn't send that message. ed is right in regards to china. 80% of trade with north korea comes from china. that gives china a lot of leverage both in dealing with north korea, but also in the united states. we've also seen president trump say that china as a currency manipulator, we have to work with china -- >> dagen: something about that china and trade, that china's trade with north korea had grown tenfold in the last 15 years, even while china was talking about abiding. they say one thing and do another.

>> sandra: the big question is what will china's role be? >> meghan: it looks like president trump may be working with china. this isn't president trump's fault. the last 20 years, we've made agreement after agreement after agreement with north korea. they get stronger and have more nuclear power. there are missiles on the border that could annihilate south korea in minutes. there is an entire global threat, not only to the united states, but i think we are losing sight that also. i know so many people right now who are deeply scared about what's going on with this. this and bring up that's happened over a long period of time, it's unfair to put it entirely on president trump, but i think he has shown himself to be someone who is a lot more than i anticipated him to be. going forward, globally a large, we all have a responsibility --

even a person who is in complete and total maniac, i don't know how you negotiate with anyone who isn't mentally stable. >> ed: someone at the u.n. said president trump has brought us to the brink of war. that's not true. kim jong-un, he is the one that has brought us to the brink of war, not the u.s. >> sandra: we're going to leave it there. making good on major campaign promise, what president trump by american, higher american executive order may mean for american jobs. will be back after this

>> we believe into simple rules. by american and higher american. by american and higher american. buy american and higher american. >> meghan: president trump is poised to make good on the campaign promise. he is traveling to wisconsin

were just in a few hours, he will sign the buy american and hire american. it will make it more difficult to not higher american. the order will also push to increase american products. they say this will increase an undue burden. he won on domestic policy, making america great again, what do you make of this? >> ed: what i make of this as he should be doing this practically every day, he's not communicating about the economy and it's one of the starkest issues. think back to week one, week two when he was sitting down not just with ceos, but with union workers who helped elect him and talked about buying american and

hiring american. he had to talk about national security, obviously he spending a lot more time on that and rightly so. >> sandra: workers like to hear this, and many voted for him. businesses have to do with the fact that this could raise their labor costs. >> dagen: i think there's a little bit of pushback, but his rhetoric and his talking about this, part of what he's talking about todays to make sure that the visa are being used properly. the application for the visas are down, as the first time it's fallen in several years. in part because indian outsourcing firms say they are going to try to hire more americans and talk about bringing some of their work back to india. it is him talking about this that is making businesses think

about hiring american and buying american products. particularly with a failing of the health care bill and tax reform that stalled into the rest of the year, he needs to be talking about this all the time. >> meghan: on people from foreign companies and foreign countries, to help make america great in the tech community. >> dagen: i'm different on the subject and a lot of conservatives, but i want the best talent in the world to live here. i want the best talent in the world to come and live in the united states and start companies here in the u.s. and create those very jobs. i don't want to alienate the best and the brightest. however, the h1b visa program has been abused by outsourcing firms who bring people in here and cut american wages and fire people, particularly those in the i.t.

>> lisa: they say it's supposed to cut on the fraud use of this and it was, to sandra's point, ed was this message to workers that allowed him to flip the obama district. i do think the trump administration can do a better job of getting some of this positive message out regarding jobs, particularly in terms to day regulation. he has done a lot by invoking a congressional review act, by spiking some things like the streamlined protection role ichssentially affected and illuminated one-trd of coal mining jobs in this country that weren't hard-hit under the obama administration. they need to do a better job of getting that out there because i really do think that would be well received. >> sandra: another thing the president can do is to create an environment in which businesses will thrive because of

businesses thrive, workers will thrive, the economy will thrive. >> dagen: he needs to repeal that health care bill, get rid of the employer mandate sleaze small businesses aren't hamstrung by that. >> meghan: they really need a win right now and i think there will definitely be one. we need to move on. there is still more to the story. believe it or not and our own ed henry wrote the book on it for real. he'll tell us more about it next, don't go away ♪ fun in art class.

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>> sandra: this past weekend marked a 70 year since jackie robinson shattered the color barrier, taking the field with the dodgers for the very first time. there's a side of the legend may not have known about until now. our one lucky guy has a new book about jackie robinson. it details how faith guided robinson to success in baseball and as a civil rights leader. >> ed: i read i do an interview about it, people asked me, what did you write about baseball? it's a passion. i don't want to write about politics. it's something -- your dad and i were on a plane a couple years

ago and all he wanted to talk about was baseball. we only talked about his fate player. the general manager of the dodgers almost at and signed jackie robinson because he had second thoughts about whether he could really go through with this. in 1945, this country was in a much different place, the military was still segregated, a lot of schools were still segregated, he had a secret meeting and you can see there in that picture of his faith guide him to say this is the right decision, god wants me to do this. it let me to go on this journey to figure out, how did faith play in jackie robinson rising above people shouting the n-word at him. i think it made a difference in both of their lives and these

are two men, different races, different generations, came from different parts of a country and what bound them was baseball. >> sandra: like we said, as a side of jackie robinson that you may not know and it inspired him throughout his career, but also after his career was over. >> ed: i have in the book a lot of sermons he delivered in the 1960s when he stopped playing. all these race riots, and he was delivering all the sermons across the country saying i get this is a complicated issue, but jackie robinson kept saying if you read the bible, it's not that complicated and if you follow the golden rule and love and respect people -- >> sandra: did you quote the judge -- >> ed: he said he believes the greatest teammates in history where ricky and robinson and i think he is right. it's hard for me to say that because i'm a yankees fan, not a

dodgers fan. jackie robinson transcends the team, he transcends the sport. when i was covering barack obama, he said i see a straight line from 1947 to me being in office. >> sandra: go by the book! were outnumbered in just a minute you don't let anything

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find us at facebook.com/outnumberedfnc. we're back on tv tomorrow at noon eastern, "happening now" starts right now. >> jon: we start with a fox news alert that broke during the first hour of "happening now," the facebook killer is dead. >> jenna: pennsylvania state police said steve stephens shot and delete my code himself this money but many questions remain about this man and that social media platform wait a horrific video was shared for hours on easter sunda recovering all of the news "happening now" ." >> we will make america great again! >> jenna: today, president trump aims to deliver on a campaign promise by signing a new executive order. details of the move the white house says buys american and hires american. plus... >> we will not rest and we will not relent until we achieve the objective of a d nuclear revised korean peninsula.