a very canadian moment. all right. we're waiting the president any moment now in kenosha for buy american hire american. for more, i'm sandra smith. here's shepard smith. >> shepard: it's 3:00 on the east coast, noon on the west coast. lots of news ahead in a jam-packed hour from fox news. let's get to it. and good afternoon from the fox news deck. i'm shepard smith in new york. here's what's happening. the man that talked so tough as he murdered and innocent man shot and killed himself. the facebook killer as he's come to be known, steve stephens took his own life as cops closed in on him. minutes ago, we learned they found him after a tip from a drive-thru worker at this mcdonald's in erie county, pennsylvania. the worker recognized him and

called state police. starting the final stage of a three-day man hunt. it all began when steve stephens recorded himself killing a 74-year-old innocent man named robert goodwin sr. in the streets on easter sunday. once troopers got the tip, they spotted the suspect's car and picked up the chase. they say for two miles they drove after him and eventually knowledged the back of his car, sending him into a spin, a pit maneuver. before the spin ended, the facebook killer pulled a gun and shot himself in the head according to authorities. this afternoon, police say they would have preferred a different ending. >> this started with one tragedy and ended with another person taking their own life. you know, loss of life is a loss of life. we would like to have brought steve in peaceful and see why

this happened. >> a lot of people wanted answers. now questions remain. somehow while the killer was on the run, his victim's son made an extraordinary gesture of compassion. >> steve, i forgive you. i'm not happy with what you did, but i forgive you. >> shepard: here, a photo of the victim with another one of his children. for that family and all those affected by this, a measure of solace today. at least they know nobody else is in danger from a mad man that murdered a retiree on the run. and this crime raised several questions. just a short time ago, mark zuckerberg briefly mentioned this matter expressing sympathy for the victim's family and promising changing. >> our hearts go out to the family and friends of robert

godwin sr. we have a lot of work and we will keep doing all we can to prevent tragedies like this from happening. >> shepard: more on that in just a minute. we begin with matt finn who is live in cleveland. you spoke with steve stephens' mother a short while ago. >> that's right, shep. we're standing in the neighborhood where some of the stephens family lives. his mother came home and found out her son died on the radio and went on to say that before this easter shooting, her son came to her and basically said good bye to her, that it was the last time they would see each other. he recently broke up on his girlfriend. she said he had an extreme gambling problem and that's what sparked this. take a look to stephen's mother. >> he said that's it. i wanted to see you one last time. whatever, steve, whatever you're thinking, i love you.

don't go out here and do nothing stupid. don't do nothing stupid. the way he was saying it, like he was going to hurt somebody but i didn't know it was going to be this serious. >> steven's more said she didn't expect him to kill anybody. she's happy he took his own life and officers did not shoot him. >> shepard: matt, what are neighbors saying? >> neighbors have mixed opinions. some say they're shocked. one said she wished steve took his own life first and didn't kill that innocent man. >> shepard: thanks, matt. president trump says he's not softened his stance on china. the president says this is not the time for tough talk about currency manipulation or pushing for stronger trade deals. he says reigning in north korea's nuclear program is more important and china is trying to help us. in an interview, the president

says he believes he got to know the chinese president real well and said the two men had good chemistry. >> now, what am i going to do start a trade war with him working on a bigger problem with north korea? i'm dealing with china with great respect. i have great respect for him. we'll see what he can do. maybe he won't help. that's possible. he's trying. maybe he won't be able to help. that's a different story. we'll see what happens. >> president trump said the chinese counter part understands north korea is a big problem. but china is still defending their trade deals with the southern neighbor. this after images shown chinese made trucks hauling ballistic missile over the weekend during a parade. kim jong-un presided over that event. north korean officials warned of an all-out war if the united

states attacked. officials in china say they do normal business with north korea without violating any sanctions. a sales manager for the maker of the trucks say they export about 1,000 vehicles a year to north korea and they say they ship the trucks under contract that specify it designs and make them for civilian use only. the sales manager says if north korea is using them for military purpose, it's because somebody that that country has modified them. hard to imagine such a thing would happen, isn't it? north korea's military parade marks the birthday of the country's founder, kim il-song. the nation tried to test launch a ballistic missile but u.s. officials say somehow it failed after take-off. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon what are pentagon officials saying about north korea's failed lawn attempt? >> defense secretary mattis was

asked about north korea's latest test. >> the leader of north korea again recklessly tried to provoke something by launching a missile. it was not an intercontinental ballistic missile. it failed on launch. >> the missile exploded four seconds after launch. u.s. officials are calling it a kn-17, a new designation for a scud missile. the pentagon is not calling it a carrier killer. targeting ships is a hard technology to perfect, but that is pyongyang's aspiration. no images exist of the new missile. i'm told this is a single stage liquid-fueled missile. we've learned that the intelligence community is scouring the north korean parade saying that some of the missiles

could be fake. >> this warning that president trump gave to the north koreans. >> we're sending an armada, very powerful. we have submarines, very powerful. far more powerful than the aircraft carrier. that i can tell you. >> shepard: as it turns out, the powerful sub and armada were 3,500 miles away and headed in the opposite direction. what happened there? >> shep, a lot of inaccurate reporting of the location of the u.s.s. carl vinson strike group which started with a misleading statement from u.s. pacific command amplified by statements from the white house. over a week ago, the head of the pacific command cancelled a port visit in australia. this led many to believe the vinson would immediately head north from singapore to the korean peninsula.

but we repeatedly reported the carl vinson strike group wouldn't be in the sea of japan until after april 24 and they have continued a training exercise with the australian counter parts near australia. it will steam north later this month. the crisis is far from over, looming on the horizon is another key date for the north koreans, april 25 marks the anniversary of the founding of the country's military. another date that kim jong-un likes to mark with dramatic tests. the good news, the u.s.s. vinson will be there by then, shep. >> shepard: thanks. a live look in kenosha wisconsin. the president set to sign a buy american, high american

executive order. the goal is to protect american orders and american goods. the big headline out of this order targets a visa program that many programs use to hire highly skilled foreign workers. it's known as h1b. tech giants like amazon, apple, google hire thousands and thousands of people using it, even automakers use this program to find engineers. executives with those companies say they can't always find enough american workers with the skills needed for the jobs. they claim the program encourages students to stay in the united states after school. the white house says the companies take advantage of those visas, that they bring in large number of foreign workers, pay them less and drive down wages. president trump has gone back and forth over the program. as for the president's push to buy american, opponents point out the obvious. some of the president's own products were made by workers from about a dozen other companies. besides, if you make everything

overseas, the price of everything at your walmart and your local store and everywhere else goes way up for use. john roberts is live on the north lawn. what else have we learned about this executive order? >> good afternoon. one of the big reasons why president trump is president trump is because of his pledge during the campaign to fight for and try to protect every american job possible. to this very view that the executive order will call for in terms of the h1b program, it's a 220 day review. many companies are abusing the system to bring in people, immigrants overseas that will work for lower wages than united states workers will. he wants to make sure that the h1be designed to welcome extraordinary talent to the country are reserved for the highest skilled workers and he's getting a lot of support for

that for members of his own party. >> why do we want to use h1b visa program to bring foreign workers in to compete with american skilled workers? that competition drives down salaries and bad for the american worker and bad for the american economy. >> as you pointed out, a lot of the high tech companies rely on the foreign workers to do the jobs because they can't filled skilled american workers and they need to hire them at a reasonable wage. the president's executive order will also order a review of buy america policy in the federal government, federal contracts and trade deals to ensure the highest use of american goods and materials. some of the president's critics are accusing of of hypocrisy given the fact that he employs a lot of immigrant workers at his properties across the easy and a lot of his clothes and his daughter's clothes are made in china. here's the dnc chair tom perez. >> it's an executive order that is to be released tonight

directing that people by american and hire american. well, maybe you could start with your own damn businesses. >> clearly he does get support for this policy for american workers. >> shepard: sounds good until you have to pay for it. john, domestically, there's an election in georgia that nobody would spend any money on but not this year. >> sixth congressional district, john ossoff is the democrat leading the pack among all of the candidates as five democrats, 11 republicans, two independents. he's getting support from chelsea handler and samuel l. jackson who is drawing from his character from "pulp fiction" for this radio ad. >> remember what happened the last time people stayed home. we got stuck with trump. we have to channel the vengeance and fury to votes at the ballot

box. >> president trump is investing in this. he's done robo calls. the only hope that ossoff has to get above 50% today. if it doesn't, it goes to a run-off and a republican will be heavy favored in the run-off. tom price won this with 62% in november and this has not been a democratic district since 1978. it was newt gingrich's district and now tom price. he has to do it today or it's likely over. >> shepard: thanks, john. we'll have live coverage as the polls close in georgia's sixth district in prime time, a special report here tonight on fox news channel. we'll hear from a woman that spent years as an intelligence officer and at the cia studying the north koreans. so what does she say? she says we should put more pressure on china to help but the chinese can't do it all. she'll explain that and why the trump administration should take military options off the table for now.

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their trade practices with the dictatorship there as north cree used chinese-made trucks to tow missiles in a parade, a spokesman says the country conduct normal business with its leaders in north korea and abides by all sanctions. sumi terry is here and served on the national security council under george w. bush and president obama. thanks for coming. >> thanks for having me on. >> shepard: how are we handling this? >> right not we're not handling it well. but in fairness, nobody handled it well. this goes to the clinton administration, the bush administration, the obama administration and now the trump administration. >> shepard: now the rhetoric has been ratcheted up and the threat is out there. so how could we see this go something. >> the politics in washington is that we're putting ourselves in

a bind. you either have to back down and lose credibility with our allies and enemy or now we have to follow-throu follow-through. are we going to have a military strike? it's a very dangerous step to take. a very dangerous step to take. >> shepard: because of north korea's abilities with japan and south korea? >> yes. there's more than 10,000 artillery pieces that is aimed at seoul right now. we have 220 million people in south. 28,500 american soldiers in south korea right now. of course, can it be devastating. north korea doesn't have to use a nuclear weapon. artillery alone is dangerous. >> shepard: what is the better course of action in your estimation? >> i'm for putting maximum pressure on north korea and china. i understand the sentiment behind this.

but i do through if china falls through and does not rein in north korean, we have to put secondary sanctions against chinese banks and entities that continue to do elicit business with north korea. >> shepard: china not interested in helping that much because of their border problem. >> china doesn't want a nuclear north korea but a longstanding policy of no war and no nukes and in that order. so china has always supported north korea historically because it does not want to see the region collapse or instability. >> sui mi, sorry we're cutting this short but the president is getting ready to spoke in wisconsin. he's being introduced. he will sign an executive order to get more companies to buy american and hire american, he says. we'll look at how that might work as we wait to hear from the president. a quick commercial break and the

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experience amazing. >> shepard: coverage from the president of the united states. donald trump in kenosha, wisconsin getting ready to speak, to sign a so-called buy american, high american order. let's listen. >> the same incredible spirit sweeping across our country and even greater than that great day in november when i won the state of wisconsin and we won the presidency. that was a great day. that was a great day. thank you, wisconsin. no administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days, that includes military, the trade, the border, regulation, law enforcement. we love our law enforcement. and on government reform. today we're building on that

optimism. i'm proud to announce that we're about to take bold new steps to follow-through on my pledge to buy american and hire american. [applause] >> i can't think of a better place to make this announcement than right here at snap-on. i just took a tour of the great. a great place, by the way. doing well, too. standing among the workers that make the tools that will rebuild our nation. your craftsmanship is incredible. it's a pleasure to see my good friend governor scott walker. he has been such a big help. he's been so incredible. stand up, scott. [applause] governor walker. as well as senator ron johnson. we worked hard together.

thank you, ron. and although he could not be here today, my thanks go to speaker ryan who represented the city for two decades in congress. you know where he is? he's with nato. so he has a good excuse. i said ron, make sure these countries start paying their bills a little bit more, you know. they're way, way behind, ron. i'm going to talk to you about that, ron. but paul, you're over with nato. get them to pay their bills. ron, you have to walk on that too. scott, we'll keep you here for a little while at least. also with us, a famous local resident, the pride of kenosha, reince priebus, my chief of staff. what a good man. there he is.

we flew over his house on the way up and he got excited taking pictures of it. reince went to school here about a middle away where he took his wife, sally, to the prom. a match made in heaven. very nice. i also want to thank treasury secretary steve mnuchin for being with us today. secretary mnuchin is working to put together a tax reform plan to make our industry more competitive and also to provide a level playing field for our workers. we don't have a level playing field. believe me. you're going to have one soon. our tax reform and tax plan is coming out well. we're working on healthcare and we're going to get that done, too. our education secretary, betsy devos is also here. she's around here someplace. thank you, betsy.

stand up. [applause] secretary devos is working to ensure that our workers are trained for the skilled technical jobs that will in the future power our country. i'm excited to be joined today by students from gateway technical college. remember, the college president ryan albrecht. thank you. great job. [applause] thank you very much. thank you. your partnership with snap-on is a great example of why vocational education is the way of the future. when i was growing up in queens, we had vocational schools. they were great. we don't have schools like that so much anymore but we're bringing them back. vocational schools. very talented people that love that type of work and it's great work.

really is great work. so vocational schools will be a big factor in the trump administration. together, we're going to do everything in our power to make sure that more products are stamped with the wonderful words "made in the u.s.a." [applause] in the old days we used to use it. we're going to start again. "made in the u.s.a." for too long, our factories have been close and jobs sent away. we've lost 70,000 factories since china joined the world trade organization. 70,000. the world trade organization. another one of our disasters. but this election, the american people voted to end the theft of

american prosperity. they voted to bring back their jobs and to bring back their dreams. into our country. that's why i'm here today. just a few moments, i will be signing a buy american and hire american executive order. you haven't heard about that in a long time in this country. with this action, we are sending a powerful signal to the world. we're going to defend our workers and protect our jobs and put america first. [applause] i see all the make america great again hats. a good crowd. good hats. through the years, snap-on tools have been at the center of our industrial life. your tools have fixed the cars our families depend on. they have sailed with the fleets

that patrol the oceans. they fix the planes that cross our skies. and snap-on tools have reached the heights of space. used by astronauts in orbit to carry out their very, very important work. i don't know if you noticed recently, i signed a very big order. we're going to spend again on nasa space program. that is something that we need and we also need it psychologically. it's going to be very exciting. for decades this company has served the needs of american workers. it's time we had a federal government that does the same. the buy and hire american order, i'm about to sign, will help protect workers and students like those of you in the audience today. this story action declares that

the of our government is to aggressively promote and use american-made goods and to ensure that american labor is hired to do the job. america first. you better believe it. time. time, right? time. [applause] first, we will fully monitor, uphold and enforce our buy american laws, which we haven't done. buy american laws require that when the federal government buys, builds or funds a project, domestic goods and products should be used. but over the years these buy american standards have been gutted by excessive waivers and reckless exemptions. the result has been countless jobs and countless contracts that have been lost to cheap subsidized and low quality

foreign goods. with this order, i'm directing every single agency in our government to strictly uphold our buy american laws, to minimize the use of waivers and to maximize made in america content in all federal projects. it's time. [applause] and for the first time ever, we are going to crack down on foreign bidders that used dump steel to take contractors by you. they've taken it away and doing it a long time. not going to happen anymore. [applause] we're finally standing up for our workers and our companies. in short, this order declared that american projects should be made with american goods.

no longer are we going to allow foreign countries to cheat our producers and our workers out of federal contracts. everyone in my administration will be expected to enforce every last buy american provision on behalf of the american worker and we are going to investigate every single trade deal that undermines these provisions. secondly, we're going to enforce the hire american rules that are designed to protect jobs and wages of workers in the united states. we believe jobs must be offered to american workers first. does that make sense? right now widespread abuse in our immigration system is allowing american workers of all background to be replaced by workers brought in from other

countries to fill the same job for sometimes less pay. this will stop. american workers have long called for reforms to end these visa abuses and today their calls are being answered for the first time. that includes taking the first steps to set in motion a long overdo reform of h1b visas. right now they're awarded in a totally random lottery. that is wrong. instead, they should be given to the most skilled and highest paid applicants and should never, ever be used to replace americans. no one can compete with american workers when they're given a fair and level playing field which has not happened for decades. we're using every tool at our disposal to restore the american dream. in fact, when it comes the wasteful destructive job-killing

regulations, we're going to use a tool you all know very well. it's called the sledge hammer. that's what we're going to use. we're also going to stand up for our dairy farmers in wisconsin. [applause] and i've been reading about it. i've been talking about it for a long time. that demands really immediately fair trade with all of our trading partners and that includes canada. because in canada, some very unfair things have happened to our dairy farmers and others. we're going to start working on that with ron and with scott and with paul, with all of your representatives. what has happened to you is very, very unfair.

it's another typical one-sided deal against the united states. it's not going to be happening for long. so scott, you and ron and myself and paul and ever else will get together and we're going to call canada and we're going to say what happened? they might give us an answer, but we're going to get the solution, not just the answer. we know what the solution is. all right? [applause] if you guys can't do it, maybe reince. we'll bring him back. no, we'll get that done and work on it hard and work on it immediately. in fact, starting today. it's a terrible thing that happened to the farmers of wisconsin. the fact is, nafta has been a disaster for the united states. a complete and total disaster. we're going to do some things. we have all sorts of rules and

regulations that are horrendous. like we wanted to start negotiating with mexico immediately. we have these provisions where you have to wait long periods of time. you have to notified congress. after you notify congress, you have to get certified and then you can't speak for them till 100 days. the whole thing can ridiculous. nafta has been very bad for our country and our workers. we're going to make some very big changes or we're going to get rid of nafta for once and for all. cannot continue like this. believe me. big things will be happening on trade with other countries over the coming months. we're also working with congress on tax reform and simplification. we're on time if we get that health care approval.

so press every one of your congressmen. press everybody. we want to get that approval. just makes the tax reform easier and it makes it better. it's going to make it steeper, it's going to be bigger. that's what we want. we're in very good shape on tax reform. we have the concept of the plan. we're going to be announcing it soon. healthcare, we have to get the healthcare taken care of. as soon as healthcare takes care, we're going to mark very quickly. you watch. we'll surprise you. right, steve mnuchin? secretary of the treasury. i see sean. stand up, sean. stand up. you know, i had no idea -- i was told a year ago -- he's been so great to me. i was told, he's like a world champion climber, climbs the trees. after that, i looked -- every time i look at him, i look at him differently. i'm impressed with that sean.

he's very good on television. very helpful. thank you. we'll be making big investments building our military and repairing our badly depleted infrastructure. that will happen soon also. infrastructure. big infrastructure bill. probably use it with something else that is a little bit harder to get approved in order to get that approved. but infrastructure is coming and coming fast. new ships, bridges, tunnels and airplanes will be constructed with american hands, american steel and yes, american tools. [applause] as we work to restore the american dream at home, we're also working to restore america's standing abroad. that means strengthening our partnerships and ensuring that our friends and allies pay their fair share and that very much includes, as i've already said,

in my little statement to paul, it also includes the nato companies and countries. they are really sort of letting us down in that one respect. we don't want people to take advantage of the united states. that's not going to happen for very much longer. i'm going over there soon and we're going to have it and everybody is going to be paying and we're going to be a happier country and a happier world. no matter the circumstances, everybody will know that we act from this core conviction that america's strength must be unmatched and the fire priority unquestioned. the safety and security of our citizens. this is the surest path to a more peaceful and prosperous world for us all. together we can build a better future in the spirit of this company's earliest days. great company. great history.

i recently learned that decades ago in the 1920s, when your salesman entered a dusty repair shop or stained a nice beautiful stained garage floor, which i've seen many of, he would find a spot to lay out a beautiful green felt mat. the people of the company know what that means. on that felt mat, he would carefully place a gleaming set of new snap-on tools. the founder of this company wanted their customers to know that the tools of the mechanic were just as important as the tools of the doctor, the dentist, the politician or the business leader. and that his craft was a noble, noble craft. as noble as any. this is a wonderful story about your company and it's wisconsin heritage. wisconsin has a truly great

heritage and it's led by incredible people. it's also a story that tells us a lot about the american spirit. in america, we honor work. we honor grit. we honor craftsmanship. we honor the men and women that turn dreams into reality with their honey two hands. in america, we honor all of you. we are a nation of builders. we are the country that dugout the panama canal, that put a man on the face of the moon and that linked our cities with majestic railroads and curving highways. we're the country that is always on the cusp of the next invention. we can only get there with all of you. we can only restore this nation we love so much by working and building with all of you. we can only get there together.

we are the one people sharing one destiny, saluting one great beautiful american flag. i'm thrilled to be here today to celebrate our great american heritage. to proudly embrace our great american future. i want to thank the people of wisconsin for doing so much for me. that's why i came back here. not just for the company, frankly, but for the people of wisconsin. you have been so incredible to me and my administration. we will never, ever let you down. god bless you, god bless the american worker, god bless the american dream and got bless the united states of america. thank you all very much. tremendous honor. thank you. thank you very much. [applause]

>> come on up. come on up. the lieutenant governor. >> shepard: he's going to sign this order now, so i figure we might as well listen to him, right? he's off mic. it will be hard for you to hear. sometimes we get little gems out of these sort of things. you know, why not listen? he's bringing up some of the other people from snap-on tools

there in kenosha, wisconsin where he's signing this buy america, high america executive order. i'll talk to anna palmer in just a minute about what this really means practically speaking. so hang with. >> a tremendous honor for me. who gets the pen? [applause] >> shepard: there you go. buy american, hire american. it's an executive order. here guy to anna, live with us from washington. we'll watch this as we talk here. looks like he might speak again? no, i guess not. even that band is too loud for

him. anna, practically speaking, buy american, hire american executive order, what does it do? >> it doesn't actually do very much. what it does do is shows a signal in terms of where his administration is and what they want the different agencies to do in terms of really focusing on trying to do new contracts when there's federal contracts to hire american workers and things like that. but it's not a wholesale change at all. what this does do, is give commerce secretary wilbur ross 220 days to do a study and see where they're looking, his recommendations what should happen, what potential other legislation or executive orders or directives that trump can give to different agencies. >> shepard: so the executive order practically speaking doesn't really do anything? >> it's much more of a signal in terms of what he wants the agencies to be focused on. i think after wilbur ross' recommendations come forward, we'll see what policies do they

enact. this is different from the trump on the campaign trail which at one time he said they should get rid of the high-skilled h1b visas wholesale. that's not what they're doing now. now he's saying let's investigate and see where there's issues, malfeasance on companies using h1b visas. >> shepard: those visas that amazon and the googles of the world hire other people from other countries and study here around rather than letting them go back to their home country with the knowledge, these companies want the hire them. they're finding it more and more difficult to do. >> the question is, does the trump administration target companies that are much more known for their outsourcing of workers. training them and having them paying less money -- >> shepard: breaking news.

this is a big one. this is the spot in erie, pennsylvania where the facebook killer killed himself. they called him the facebook killer. video shows he did that. now they're explaining the pursuit of this man. let's listen. >> you only have one chance. we're not going to rush -- thank got we have the weather in our favor today. >> [question inaudible] >> to my knowledge, when the pit maneuver is conducted, the vehicle spun around, came to a stop. he pulled the weapon out and shot himself. in the car. could you repeat? >> dash cam -- >> we have mvr videos. three vehicles to have mvr on. as a rule, we don't release that we do have that. >> how relieved are you that this man hunt is over?

>> well, clearly, you know, no investigation is 100% complete until the investigation is done. right now to the best of my knowledge and i would help anybody else jump in here, we don't have any accomplishes. he was somewhere the last several days. if he was under a bridge or somebody was harboring him, i don't know. i would say i feel more comfortable now than i did prior to 11:00. but whether there's somebody else, we don't know. i would -- i certainly feel the tension is less now than it was earlier. captain, do agree with that? >> what message do you have for the concerned citizens that if it wasn't for their actions we wouldn't be here today? >> first of all, thank god. without the public, we would be nowhere. it's so important to any investigation that the public stepped in and helped us. our job as state troopers and police officers and direct

attorney, we're here to serve the public. it's nice when they realize that and they help us it with the investigation. this investigation would be nowhere without tips. like i said, i was talking to captain bassinger. every station got tips which we followed up on. it's nice when you're on one team and we get that information so my response is thank you very much. it's appreciated. >> will this investigation rest with the pennsylvania state police? what will be the relationship with you and the cleveland authorities and the fbi going forward? >> again, this is one part of the investigation. mr. stephens ended his life here today. we'll be in touch -- we've been in touch with cleveland. they have their homicide and we have the investigation here. we have the suicide. we're going to find out where he was. >> how many troopers were in

pursuit? >> captain? >> four cars with five members. >> plus wesleyville p.d. had a vehicle. >> were they that close? >> the one trooper that i spoke to that did the pit maneuver saw him pull the gun out and shoot himself. i can't speak for the others. the one trooper did. >> they didn't have to draw their own weapons as they approached -- >> it happened so fast. i don't want to speak. my guess is they probably did not. however, if they did see him pull a gun and shoot himself, you don't know what the outcome of that was. personally if they drew their we pop, they were entitled to. i don't know that. >> was it a shot to the head? >> again, i think it's safe to say it was a shot to the head,

yes. >> what do you want the people of cleveland to learn from that? >> can you repeat that question? >> what do you want the people to learn from this incident? >> the only thing i want the people from cleveland ohio know is we're across the border from cleveland, ohio. as far as law enforcement, we work as a family. they help us, we help them. just because somebody commits a crime in cleveland and come to another state, we'll do everything we can to solve that case just as if it happened in p.a. >> just to be clear -- [inaudible question]. >> we have no first-hand

knowledge of a ping. we did not do a ping. as far as a ping, we have no first-hand knowledge. >> but you were on alert -- >> it was all -- we were on alert because we watch the news, talked to cleveland. it was all over the place. that's a heinous act to shoot a 74 man working on the street on east, that grabs your attention. we bring closure to victims like that. that was a terrible, terrible crime. so as far as what i said, i dodd -- ping, no direct knowledge. as far as the gambling and all that, social media, information from cleveland that all corroborated that. >> how difficult would it be to get that car from cleveland to here without spotting it? how would you go about doing it.

a lot of people are saying how do you get from cleveland to here without nobody seeing it. >> a lot of luck. there's back roads. travel at nighttime. a lot of ways to do it. i'm not going to educate future criminals but it happens. it does. >> [question inaudible] >> right now we're not aware of any. >> [question inaudible] >> i don't have correct knowledge. i'm not sure if you're aware. >> i do not. >> it's a fresh incident. we're getting tips. more important things to make sure that they were assigned to follow up on. i don't have a number right now. every station received

>> [question inaudible] >> i don't know. today. at least today. >> would you say overnight? >> that would be an assumption on my part. unless someone else has information. >> [question inaudible] >> i don't know. >> what time did this call come in? >> 11:10. >> [question inaudible] >> the autopsy is tomorrow morning here. thank you. any other questions? >> you spoke to the officers under your command and spoke to the individual that works at mcdonald's. can you talk about their demeanor? this small act was a huge act. can you talk about their

demeanor or how mr. stephens -- >> you're talk about -- >> the mcdonald's employee. how would you describe them -- >> i believe my response was a concerned citizen on buffalo road. i don't think i have ever said mcdonald's. >> the person that was the concerned citizen, it's our understanding you have spoken -- >> i have not. >> nobody in your command has spoken to them? >> any other questions? anybody else? my name? >> yes, sir. >> it's tepper. >> shepard: there you go. the latest news conference. i have to tell you the back story. the police are not giving you everything that we have confirmed but it's in every media. you have to hear this. this guy who had just murdered a man, easter sunday. he walked up to a man and murdered him.

this is the guy that did it according to authorities. today after run, he went 100 miles east of cleveland near erie, pennsylvania on buffalo road. he pulled up to a drive through at a mcdonald's at 11:00 a.m. he ordered a large chicken mcnugget and large fry for $5.25. they said pull around. he pulled around to the window. one of the employees looked out, handed him the chicken nuggets and said just a minute on the fries. one of the employees said that looked like the guy that killed a guy in cleveland. but they held the guy back saying you have to wait. somebody went to call police. this is ten after 11:00 a.m. so someone in mcdonald's called the police while the guy suspecting of killing this man is sitting at the drive-thru window and the guy at the drive-thru says i'm not waiting on the fries. i have to go. according to the employees, he didn't speed off or anything like that. he just drove off like anybody would. but he left his fries behind

after paying his $5.25. it was that tip from that mcdonald's worker that ended this chase at that moment. they said there was a brief chase after that. you heard the erie county p.a. people that said they had a short pursuit on him. they did a pit maneuver. you've seen them where a car gets hinds -- behind you and make the back end of the car swerve around around stops your forward progress. at that point, they're trying to take him into custody. according to the authorities, the suspect takes a gun, shot himself in the head and that was that. $5.25 at the mcdonald's and somebody in the drive through saw somebody and said something. from the police? they're lovin' it. jonathan hunt with the rest of this. it's an incredible story, john. >> it is. so the police are loving the tip

that they got at the mcdonald's that led them to steve stephens. there's concern about the cops there about what exactly steve stephens was doing between carrying out the murder on sunday and today when he was finally tracked down and killed himself after that short police chase. the cops saying we want to know where he has been. one of the reporters rightly asking, how do you get from cleveland to erie, pennsylvania with a good description of his vehicle, the white ford fusion and nobody saw him, he didn't get caught on any cameras apparently that led the cops to him quicker than this. so there's some concern. as they said plainly, whether he had any accomplices the last 48 hours or so and the cops got the tip they needed, shep.

>> shepard: from hearing from the lead man there in erie county, it sounded like he said i'm more comfortable with it than i was at 11:00 a.m., which said that they really don't think that he's been in cahoots with anybody else. that's how it sounded. >> yeah, i think you're right. sounded like they don't believe he's in cahoots with anybody else in terms of this killing. but they do want to know more detail about his movements obviously in the wake of something like this, such a horrific crime posted on facebook. they want to know exactly where he went in the minute after that murder, the hours after the murder and in the totality of 48 hours between the murder and the police chief today. obviously the police chief very relieved that he's now no longer a threat to anyone else, shep. >> shepard: no doubt. jonathan, thank you. the police chief said they wish it hadn't ended this way. at long last, it's over.

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