the press briefing where we expect the big topic to be the georgia special election. the race garnering national election. republicans call it victory after john ossoff failed to get enough votes the win outright. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, megan mccain, kennedy, and the katie pavlich is here. and the president-elect secretary under george w. bush is george fleischer. good to have you back. >> you have a podium? i'll try to take a question. >> thank you. >> it is a busy day indeed. we'll get to that when it happens live. let's get started. democrats have been clom --

chomping at bit to steal a seat. but disappointing denims have to keep their champagne on ice after john ossoff fell short despite big backing from hollywood and democrats throwing millions into the race. he will face karen handel, who one served as georgia secretary of state in a june 20th run-off. last year, the 30-year-old ossoff sought to rally his troops. >> there is no doubt that this is already a victory for the ages. we have defied the odds, we have shattered expectations. there is no amount of dark money, supper pac money that can overcome. so bring it on!

>> handel says president trump called this morning offering congratulations and pledging his support. the republican says she's grateful and that now is the time for republicans to unite in georgia's sixth district. >> the president was beyond gracious and encouraging and i appreciated it so much. he specifically talked about strength under pressure. i was grateful for that as well. we come into june 20th. every single republican we can get, including the president, to be coalesced and united coming into what will be a tough race. the democrats will pour so much money. >> as for the president, he couldn't hold back his satisfaction tweeting around midnight. despite major outside money, fake media support and 11 republican candidates, big r win with a run-off in georgia. glad to be of help. the dnc firing back saying ossoff's 48% tally shows voters are fed up with the president and gop leadership.

all right. ari, was this a big win for the gop? >> well, no it wasn't a big win for anybody yet. the only election is the one in two months. i noticed he called it a victory for the ages. the age may last two months. so i suspend declaring victory or defeat until we see what the results are. if you're a democrat, you're 0 for 1 1/2. you thought you had the race in kansas. you were heart broken there. you thought you could steal a red republican district away in a special election yesterday. didn't happen. two months from now, chances are tough for the democrats to keep that seat. >> it does appear democrats have their problems and need to get their act together. >> what was it? tom perez got booed at a unity event in maine this week by his own supporters. this comes down to also that democrats are expecting american voters to turn on the president right away. they're underestimating how patient american voter are. i was in l.a. with an uber

driver. he was an iranian immigrant who kept saying he's fed up with his party being, you know, so abrasive towards president trump and not giving him a chance. he voted for hillary clinton. he said look, he just got into office. let's try to give him some options. any democrat running for local office, meaning a congressional seat, not a national presidential race, should really stay away from the celebrities. you look at his record as a candidate, it's not terrible. when it comes to his background and who he is. when you bring in the outside forces, celebrities and the fact that he doesn't even live in his district slows that democrats are still out of touch and not willing to talk to voters at the grass roots who he claimed are ready to go in winning that seat. >> we're awaiting the white house press briefing. what do you think the conversation will be there? >> i echo katie. it's the base, the california celebrities. any influx of people, the celebrities giving money,

telling local people in georgia what to do. it's so tone deaf and how you haven't learned a lesson from hillary clinton that doesn't matter how many times you bring people like samuel jackson and leena dunham out, it won't make a difference in national elections. this was a district that romney won handily. president trump won by 1%. so it's not trump country by nature. so it's not like this district was won and completely and totally flipped. i hate reading the tea leaves into elections like this, special elections. i always think of scott brown being the second coming, the independent republican candidate who took over for kennedy after he left -- i believe he died. and it ended up being he was a one-term person for two years in the senate. sometimes these things are just moments in time that media sort of manifests excitement over. as you said, in two months, we can forget this guy's name. >> when you go back to the money that ossoff raised, $8.3 million, more than quadrupled

that of the next candidate. >> it wasn't until the end of the race that the republican national committee woke up and started funneling money in opposition to this candidate who was really lackluster. john ossoff doesn't get coffee today because coffee is for closers only. he couldn't close the deal. he was 2 percentage points shy of and outright victory. this was a bell weather race and they wanted to send a signal that the tide has turned. he came up short. that means that now all of that concentration of money and energy gets to completely reshift and republicans get to reset the table. however, you know, the fact that they were asleep at the wheel shows that they are not only schisms in both parties, they both know how to lose. >> moral victories may only get you so far as it became clear that john ossoff would fail to avoid a run-off. reports that democrats back in washington started asking when

does the winning start? ossoff's 48% vote tally was welcome in a conservative oriented district, but after two straight very close losses in house special elections, georgia and kansas, a new worry is setting in. politico writing "for all the anger, energy and money swirling at the grass roots level, democrats didn't get the first two seats that they contended for in the trump era and the prospects are not better in the next few house races coming up. the montana race in may and the south carolina contest in june 20th. ari? >> yeah, that's very well-said. you know, on katie's point, i had a similar uber driver. he was from romania. he was in the united states and he's very patient about donald trump. he didn't like donald trump in the election but he's open-minded and waiting. this is where the gap is between the democratic base and the rest of the country, i think. democrats are so fired up and

anti-trump, especially the liberal bernie sanders base. the rest of america isn't there. trump is not popular, but people are holding their breath, hoping and waiting and desirous of success. >> you mentioned bernie sanders and tom perez getting booed. bernie sanders are getting the cheers. >> he's the most popular active politician in america by a recent poll. so bernie sanders -- i know bernie sanders supporters, if you can believe that. so many of them that i know are friends of mine are so angry and feel like the election was stolen from bernie sanders and if the dnc had done their job, they didn't want tom perez. they think there's this big conspiracy within the establishment dnc to take away the socialist agenda from the rightful ownership of this base of core supporters. so where the democrats go at this point? it looks like socialism. it looks like this hardcore base may be where they pull them too. any chance of making up the difference between these uber drivers you two were talking to -- i never talk to my uber

drivers -- i never talk to them. >> easternpean. >> looks like they won't maybe up the gap. whether you like it or not, i don't believe that bernie sanders could have beaten donald trump. he's message is too radical. america is not a socialist country and it's not going to turn to one. >> the energy and the passion of the democratic party has been for a while with elizabeth warrens and the bernie sanders. hillary was able to defeat bernie because of her institutional advantage. she's the last democrat to do that. the whole par is shifting far left. it was a center right party that could win elections. the left wing democratic party will be hard-pressed in the elections. >> and hillary clinton lost because she couldn't connect to the everyday voter. donald trump connected to the every day voter. democrats have to get over

shouting about racism and -- >> have a message. >> and something solid in terms of policy that will affect people sitting at their kitchen table, whether it's far left, socialist parties or what donald trump has been selling in terms of talking to american workers, bringing things back home and making sure that they care about them. >> and clinton loss because she couldn't do that. >> if you look at this race, what was ossoff's message and what is his message to voters that are loosely tied to their parties? because hyperbole is not enough. hating the current president is not enough. you have plenty of voters out there that are better educated and more sophisticated about the issues than they were two or three election cycles ago. the democrats wants to take their base for granted. we see this fracture in the democratic party. i don't know if you can heal

that. i don't know if there's a way to have a center left party when you have people like elizabeth warren an bernie sanders. >> we're going to get your podium ready, ari. we're awaiting the white house press briefing. you're looking at the cameras right now. waiting on sean spicer. we'll take you there when it begins. mike pence with a new warning to north korea. this as president trump is blaming bill clinton for the current mess. we debate it. federal agents reportedly deporting the first dreamer under the trump administration. is this a sign of things to come? or is the white house just delivering on their promise to crack down on criminal illegal immigrants? and after the show, of course, you can join our live chat by clicking foxnews.com or go to facebook.com/outnumbered. we'll look at your tweets all hour.

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israel. we'll have further guidance as we get closer to the date. in term of additional announcements, the president will give the commencement address at the coast guard academy in new london, connecticut on may 17th. as we grow closer, we'll provide updates. this morning the president signed an important piece of legislation for the nation's veterans. the veterans choice program extension and improvement act eliminates the original sunset date on the veterans choice program which gives veterans unable to schedule an appointment at a v.a. facility the ability to receive care from an eligible non-v.a. health care provider. using funds that have already been appropriated for the program, this gives our nation's heros the peace of mind that they deserve while this administration works with congress to enact reform and modernization at the v.a. the vice president is continuing on his international tour today.

tuesday he spoke to 2,500 service men and women on the deck of the u.s.s. ronald reagan in japan thanking them for their service and discussing the president's plan to rebuild our military. he then met with and delivered remarks to japanese business leaders and stopped by a youth baseball clinic before leaving japan. he's scheduled to land in jakarta indonesia about now. we'll have further updates on his travels the rest of the week. this week is national park week. secretary of the interior, ryan zenke is meading with rangers at five national parties. monday and tuesday, he was at channel islands national park where he led a class of junior park rangers and today he will visit golden date national recreation area. since being sworn in march 1, the secretary has met with rangers at nine national parks. he will make that 10 when he visits shenandoah next week.

the parks are free of charge this saturday and sunday. anyone who is interested in finding a local park or information can go to nps.gov. finally, just a moment ago, the president announced he will hold a press conference to discuss the progress being made on the nation's veterans. we'll have further updates on the guidance for next week. with that, glad to take a few of your questions. john? >> a couple unrelated topics. the georgia sixth congressional district. the fact that john ossoff had five or six more points than the republicans thought he would have and lindsey graham said this is a wake-up call to the republican party that a lot of moderates are emerging in the south to a greater degree, that the republicans need to pay a greater attention to. i don't imagine the outcome of the run-off is that much in question. did senator graham have something there that the republican party needs to pay attention to to the changing

demographics in the south? >> based on my former position, we talked about changing demographics throughout the country and made significant head way in doing that. that's why we won. we've talked about how the republican won at so many different levels of the country. this president got 306 electoral votes, won 30 of 50 states. we did well in november. we continue to pick up seats around the country at different levels. so i feel confident about the state of the party. >> with the fact that ossoff came so close to 50% -- >> again, i would just -- looking at the facts, there was one candidate. they spent over $8 million -- one that they backed. and i think when you look at the total republican vote, it was over that. this is a district that was very close on the presidential level last cycle. the democrats went all in on

this. they were clear going into this election. they said their goal was to get over 50%. they came up short. so if you look at what his percentage of what it was presidentially, it tracks. i think this was a big loss for them. the bottom line is they went all in on it, they said that their goal was to get over 50%. they came up short. >> unrelated issue. tillerson's letter to paul ryan on the jcpoa in iran, is the united states saying there's no evidence that iran is cheating on the jcpoa? >> no. what the letter says is that the president is directing an interagency review of the deal to review that and we have 90 days before the next one comes up. we'll have more. right now we're undergoing a 90-day review. the statement to congress stated that the president is directing national security council to lead an interagency review of the plan and evaluate whether or

not suspensions and sanctions to iran pursuant to the jcpoa are in the vital interest of our national security. that's the letter clearly laid out what the president will do to make sure that they're living up to their agreement. >> is the president concerned that iran may be cheating on the jcpoa? david albright said near developing a new centrifuge which he thinks could be a violation -- >> that's why he's asking for the review. if he didn't, if he thought everything was fine, he would have, you know, allowed us to move forward. he's doing the prudent thing by asking for a review of the current deal. >> the u.s.s. carl vinson, can you takes through what happened? take us through the events that led to the miscommunication. the administration thought this vessel was thousands of miles away from the actual location. >> can you repeat? >> can you take us through the events that led people to believe the vessel was thousands

of miles away from the actual location. >> paycom put out a release talking about the group ending up in the korean peninsula. that's what it will do. i think we were asked about the use of the carrier group of a deterrence of foreign presence. that's what that meant. that's what we discussed. i'll refer you to the department of defense. >> does the president believe he might have spoken too quickly on the location of the vessel -- >> the president said we had an armada going towards the peninsula. it's a fact. it's happening. >> i just want to follow up on that. obviously the president of the united states says there's military hardware going to a region in the middle of a crisis on the korean peninsula, the allies of the united states are encouraged. when that happens to not be the case. they can interpret that is a false encouragement. how is the white house

explaining to south korea and japan that during the build-up and the actual jcpoa missile launch, there was no u.s.s. carl vinson -- >> i ask you to touch base with the department of defense. the statement put out was the vinson was headed to the korean peninsula. it will ---ed. >> it said it was there now >> that's not what we said. we said it was headed there. >> the impression the allies had -- >> if there's an impression, that's not -- there should have been clarification from people taking it. paycom out a release. that's where it ended up. >> why did the administration never clarify? it -- the media reports that it was headed there now and now -- >> with all due respect, we were asked a question --

>> you commented -- >> that's not true. what i was asked is what signal did it send that it was going there. i answered that question correctly at the time that it signals foreign presence, strength and a re-assurance to our allies. that's a true statement. you're asking me why you didn't know better. i don't know. that's a question that should have been followed up with paycom or the department of defense. the only question we were asked is what signal it sends. we answered that correctly at the time. >> don't you think it was mislead something nobody found out about it -- >> what do you mean? what part is misleading? i'm trying to figure that out. we were asked a question about what signal it sent. we answered the question. i didn't comment on timing. >> people thought it was headed there now and now it's there weeks later. they thought it was already there -- >> i understand the question, right? what i'm getting at is -- it was announced that it was going. it will be there. we were asked simply a question on that. i think all other questions

should be department of the department of defense. john? >> thanks. china's foreign ministry spoke and said that china is frustrated with north korea. north korea, you may have seen it, put out a simulated video over the past 24 hours which shows their missiles attacking and destroying an american city. what is the white house reaction to the video and to the comments by china's foreign ministry spokesperson? >> first part, this isn't the first time that north korea put out propaganda tools. we won't comment every time they put out propaganda. it's encouraging to see china move forward and join us in this effort to control north korea. i commented before, the relationship that the president started building with president xi in mar-a-largo is clearly showing positive signs. china continues to have both economic and political influence over china. so i think it's important to see

them headed in this direction. it's a positive sign to see them play a larger and larger role. it's in everybody's interest to contain north korea's action. john? >> how strong -- i'm sorry. how strong is that influence though if foreign ministry spokesman for china, which the president is depending on for this particular encouragement is saying that he himself,china itself is frustrated, increasingly frustrated with north korea? >> again, i think from an overall diplomatic sense, it's positive to see china take positive signs aligning with the position that we have on this. that's a positive thing. i think time will tell. i think seeing a unified effort to see north korea is a positive step to protect not only our national security interests but those in the region. john? >> thank you, sean. two weeks ago i asked you about

the president's upcoming visit to rome and whether or not he would have an audience with this pope. i pointed out something that is a part of modern history when president eisenhower had an audience of pope xxiii. you pointed out that sources in the administration said this is very unlikely to happen and that for the first time since nearly 60 years ago, the president would not have an audience with the pope. why? >> so right now at this time obviously we had a difficult schedule in sicily. if we have updates on the schedule, i'm sure we'll let you know about any additional stops. >> are you in touch with the holy sea about --

>> i appreciate the effort. i think until we have an update, i'm not going to go there. franches franchesca. >> back on iran and the state department's letter to congress. there's been talk about stricter sanctions on iran for the ballistic missile tests and state finance of terror. are you concerned that tougher sanctions on iran was violated to -- motivated to violate the nuclear deal? >> well, obviously any action that we would take, if we did, is something that would get vetted through the interagency process and all of though situations are taken to achieve the effect we want. sanctions have been an effective tool in many cases and i think that as we mentioned, a lot of times the president doesn't telegraph what action they're going to take. as we conduct a review of options available in this session, we'll go through the interagency process and have different enties weigh-in.

>> but in consideration of the potential -- >> we're well aware of any potential negative impacts that an action could have. so regardless of whether it's a economic, political or military action, you always weigh all of those options. george? >> one small follow up on that. the president has said though that he would like to see the nuclear deal re negotiated with i ran. how does he plan to get a new deal? is that something he wants to do? >> that's why we're undergoing to interagency review. part is to get the team to look at it as part of the next 90 days. review that is required under the deal. so we will have recommendations that will be presented to the president on where the deal stands and how to act further. george? >> thanks. looking ahead to the 100-day mark. in setting aside executive orders, can you say what -- the single piece of legislation that you are proudest that you got

through to congress that was on the president's agenda? >> well, a few things on that. number 1, we're not done. we have a little ways before we hit the 100-day mark. what you've seen out of this white house is very robust agenda of activity. there's a lot of executive orders that i think the president has been pleased with not only what they have done or what they will do but what they have done. when you look at immigration in particular, we see a very significant drop at the border. i think on jobs, there's been a lot of activity that we've been proud to see american manufacturing and job creation. but then there's pieces like what we did today that if you're a veteran that served our country, to know that you have additional options to get healthcare in a timely manner or not just -- but agree graphically friendly manner so your not driving hours is helpful and a strong symbol of how we treat our veterans. a lot of things the president has done on veterans, immigration, regulatory reform.

we're now at a dozen congressional review acts, pieces of legislation that have been signed that have had a very positive impact on -- and will have a positive impact on job creation. when you -- i've noted before to you that only one had ever been signed in history before. a pretty significant achievement for this president and obviously when you look at the confirmation of neil gorsuch to the supreme court is another significant one. there's a lot. we'll spend some time talking about this next week. but i think we're very pleased with what the president has accomplished. as he noted yesterday in wisconsin, the amount that he's done overall has been significant. zeke? >> first, is the president -- is the budget supplemental that the white house requested included a boost in defense spending and other discretionary spending?

include funding for the wall. is the president going to insighs that it will be necessary to keep the government going after next weekend, will include those priorities or will he accept a flat -- >> yeah, we're having -- those discussions have been ongoing with house and senate leaders as we approach this deadline. but as you correctly point out, the president's priorities are very well-known what he wants to do with military and homeland security. i think to start negotiating in public will probably not be a prudent thing to do as we get closer to that deadline. so i just -- i respectfully -- we're days away. you'll have plenty of time to see what's there. richard? >> late last night the presidential lawyer talk about the filing and talked about

money given from donors, many that had business with the president had. is there a concern of conflict of interest between some of those donations coming and supporting his inauguration and -- >> no, this is a campaign that you have -- there's disclosure on this for a reason so that you know what is happening he. i think funding the inaugural committee has been a nonpartisan activity that is going back every administration going back through administrations. so this is a time-honored tradition. a lot of americans and companies and entities are proud to support the inaugural. you've seen that over time. there's a lot of people that take pride in helping us show the world a peaceful transformation of power. richard? >> thank you. i want to go back to wisconsin

yesterday. >> you want to go back, huh? >> the president said about the issue with the local dairy producers, dairy farmers, that he was going to work on that. he started calling canada and asking for solutions. has the white house been in contact with anybody in canada, in ottawa? >> i'll have an update for you hopefully at some point on that. i'm well-aware of the president's comments on that. it's a very important issue for people in wisconsin. the president looks forward to following up on that. all i will say is that the president will make sure that we follow up on that. david? >> real quickly. you said on that that he wants big changes. are we going to get rid of it once and for all. big changes or -- >> we'll see what pans out in

the negotiation. there's an opportunity -- can i just -- [laughter] i think i got this. thank you. hold on. [laughter] all right. that was good. real quick. how do you follow that? i just want to make sure that we will be reaching out to the vatican to see if a meeting and audience with the pope will be commented. we'll be honored to have an audience with his lowliness. calling on david. >> let's go back to the reaction to the deportation of juan martez. the first dream er to be sent back. >> that situation is evolving. a lot of things that are being looked at in terms of the

circumstances surrounding that. i'd ask you the stay in contact with the department of homeland security. >> president trump -- >> i think that -- i don't want to comment right now in the sense that there's some circumstances that need to come out or be further looked into. i think getting ahead of that could be an issue. so i respectfully would say that i don't want to rush to judgment. there's a lot of additional details that are coming out about that issue and i think the department of homeland security is probably the best place to get updates. >> i want to ask about the g-8. is the president planning to campaign for the republican challenger there? will he go to georgia to get out the vote? >> i don't know. if needed. the president is going to make sure he does everything to maintain majority and further the party. >> is he spending too much political capitol on a race the

republicans should be winning easily? >> it's interesting. i thought some of the coverage was intrigues as i watched it. the democrats went all in on this race. they spent $8.3 million. they said on the record their goal was to win this race. they lost. the reaction has been, you know, that they almost won. no, they lost. they made very clear what their goal was in this race. they spent $8.3 million and threw everything including kitchen sink and lost. >> [question inaudible] >> they said that their goal last night was to win the race with over 50%. they spent $8.3. they ran to win and they lost. so anything short of describing that as a loss is -- is sort of inconceivable to me in the sense that that is what they said their goal was to do. they said we want to win tuesday night with ohio 50%. they came up short of their goal. they put all the money that they had in there, they put all their

firepower and cam up short. so it's a loss. there's no other -- >> the second topic is deportation. but i'm not speaking about this case. i understand you're referring to dhs. what is this president's position on undocumented immigrants in this country that have not committed serious crimes? >> his position has been laid out. the first around foremost, he wanted to make sure people that have committed crime and a problem to public safety are dealt with and we will address immigration going forward. >> my question is those that have not posed -- >> and as i said, the goal and the focus has been on people who pose a threat to national security or in some other way in violation. >> and for those that have not potioned a threat -- >> again, i would respectfully suggest in this particular case, the facts are not out yet. so i'd rather not jump to jump

on what is happening. >> thank you. >> just get a little more clarity on iran. is the president determined to pull out of this agreement as he promised or will that decision be determined by this review? >> part of the review, the interagency process, is to determine where iran is in complaints with the deal and to make recommendations to the president on the path forward. >> see he might or might not pull out? this decision has yet to be made? >> that's why he's doing a review. >> that was a campaign promise. >> right i understand that. the point i'm making is, he asked the interagency team to conduct a review as the secretary laid out in the letter. anita? >> sean, two weeks on one issue. my colleague who is in columbia has learned that the president met with two former presidents

of columbia last week at mar-a-largo. i think it was set up by senator rubio's office. two questions. some people are saying it's -- two questions. why was that not released to the press, the pool at the time and secondly, can you talk about the point of that visit and do you stand by the columbian people? >> i'll be glad to look into the circumstances. i don't have anything for you at this time. i will get that something -- >> are you saying it didn't happen? >> no. i'm aware of the circumstances -- >> can you get back to me? >> i can. >> but why not release that -- >> i don't know it's the case. so until that, it would be tough to answer the second question. thank you very much. take care. >> that's sean spicer wrapping up at the white house press briefing. rob gronkowski making an

appearance, the new england patriots won the super bowl last year. they were being honored at the white house. he popped his head in the right. it was a light moment. otherwise, north korea a big discussion, the georgia election a big discussion. ari fleischer used to hold that role at the white house. really interesting to see you react to sean spicer up there. is there anything you would have said different? let's talk first about north korea. there was a big exchange by multiple reporters, a lot of questions fired off about the armada that trump said he was sending to north korea and that group was headed towards australia. the white house's response was it will end up there. you were watching. what was your reaction? >> first, i hoped to begin with gronk. okay. north korea. i think that conversation could have gone to one or two places. one, you defer all questions to the pentagon and let them answer the questions. basically diffuse the issue.

it's been prominently reported as it should be or you dig in and say we were wrong then but right now because ultimately it will go to the area. >> it got sticky. >> i'm not slur why the white house is pursuing the we're right strategy. i think i would have referred it to the pentagon. >> and he did ultimately. he went back to that. let's talk about the georgia special election. john roberts fired off a question. katie pavlich fired off a question referencing whether in is a wake-up call to republicans. sean spicer responded we did well in november referencing the presidential election. we're confident about the state of the republican party. >> i don't think that republicans should underestimate democrats. there's certainly coming -- trying to make a comeback. they do have some kind of grass roots organizing going on. but that isn't transferring to votes and it hasn't transferred to victories yet. keep in mind, this is georgia, trying to get seats in kansas, montana as well. these are not places where

democrats can easily win. republicans should not underestimate them. the white house is probably putting too much political capital into this specific race. this is a red district. republicans are probably going to win in the final respects of this. and yet the white house is hinging on it because if it it were to go the democrat's way, it would look back for the president. but i do any they're -- >> sean spicer said they threw $8.3 million at this race and the kitchen sink. >> sean is right. they were hoping for a win and they said they could win and they didn't. they fell short. but there's a bigger trend here and a trend republicans have to pay attention to. democrats are making inroads with the college grads. democrats are losing high school grads and lower income voters. those are groups that used to be reliably democrat. now they're trending republican. the two parties are

demographically coming apart. this is one of those college-educated districts that could be a bell weather for republicans in the future. so holding it now is essential. >> and his reaction on the georgia special election. we talked about the president calling this a big win and taking ownership of it. >> you're the one that has quoted "talladega nights". if you're not first, you're last. winning is winning. reading the tea leaves into this too much by anyone in the media said that it's a predominantly red district. as you said, popular as donald trump, he only won by 1%. mitt romney won by 20 in 2012 when he ran. so i wouldn't use this as the lens of what will happen in mid-term elections. this guy lost. he will probably lose the general election. he probably won't be a congressman. so beyond that, yeah. are there some thing to be worried about with changing

demographics? yes. but we knew that in the general election. >> kennedy, your take-away? >> if you were sitting down with sean spicer, ari, what direction would you give him as someone that has done the exact same role? it's very interesting because obviously you have to reflect what your boss believes and thinks and you're the person that is interfacing with the press, which is more critical now than it seems like it's ever been. was your time in the white house when you were press secretary, was it appointment television like with sean spicer? >> first of would have done different will i, i would have invited gronk to the podium. i would have taken any advantage i could have to stop answering tough questions. so come on up, gronk. you handle this. look, it's always a wonderful and possible job. your first obligation is to reflect your boss. you're his spokesperson. it's not about you and your personality or your style, even though it's reflected, it's

about reflecting the president. sean has a difficult time because he represents an unpopular president with the press corps and a press that enjoys picking fights with the press corps. sean has to reflect that and he does a very good job of reflecting donald trump and doing a good job the way donald trump would like him to do it. he has to be aggressive and tough and he does that even though it's uncomfortable with a lot of reporters and led to bad relations with sean and the reporters. >> have you spoken to him about the job? >> i have talked to him, yeah. >> there needs to be a show where it's you reacting to sean spicer. >> there's a code among the press secretaries. we don't criticize one another. we know how hard it is to stand at that podium. >> changes could be ahead nor the democratic party. angry hecklers accusing a democrat of not being liberal enough. a new poll showing benny sanders is the most popular active politician. will progressives push the

democratic party further to the left?

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>> growing signs the democratic

party is being pushed to the left, to the left. watch what happens. senator dianne feinstein at a town hall earlier this week. >> that step was to send a number of tomahawk missiles into -- into an airport where planes left to drop the gas. and they -- if i -- look, look -- why don't you leave the name-calling out of it. okay? if you don't like me, don't stay. that's easy. >> someone in the crowd of accusing her not being left wing enough. meantime, dnc chair tom perez and senator bernie sanders kickoff the mid-terms. >> maybe you became because you're curious about the new dnc

chairman and the future of democratic -- >> wow! the speaker shocked there. on the flip side, the same crowd reacting to the mention of senator sanders. >> maybe it's because you love a certain senator from vermont. [cheers & applause] [chanting]. >> that reception shows a new poll showing sanders is the most popular politician ahead of mike pence. president trump, hillary clinton and even senator elizabeth warren. what does this say to you about the state of the democratic party? more importantly, people that are showing up at these town halls not just to razz puns? >> what senator type stein had removed me of september 11th. they said we need to resolve this with the use of judicial

organizations. there's a frightening part of the democrats that have anti-war, anti-defense. the use of defense to defend our country, this is a terrible danger for the democrats, this isn't a point that we discussed earlier. sanders and the warren wing push the democrats so far to the left that they can win primaries but never win generals again? that's the big test. the democrats will have to get through that as they fight through the trump years with their animosity toward trump, to rise through the venom that that could isolate them to never win elections. >> negative is one thing that has been pointed out. democrats to a better job of keeping the flock in line and lock step. republicans have had a harder time. we saw that with healthcare. the feud is not over. the family feud in the democratic party is not going anywhere and it's not going to reconcile itself. so if you're tom perez and you're looking at these vocal

and -- maybe it's a minority of democratic voters. how do you pull them back? is it possible to pull them back to the center? >> tom perez is on a bus tour with bernie sanders trying to win over red state voters. someone understands there's a demographic that they have to make a noble attempt. i know they called dianne feinstein a sell-out. we were laughing during the break. she's an extremely liberal poll situation. if she's not left enough for you, you should redefine yourself of the socialist party. if that's what you want to be, be honest about your agenda. i think again, i understand the anger and the rage of these bernie sanders reporters, especially after the wikileaks came out and the debby wasserman schultz that there was colluding to get hillary clinton in and she lost in spectacular fashion. but if your message is we hate donald trump, that is not a recipe for success. >> poor tom perez.

he's driving around this bus with a popular politician trying to -- >> look at the demographic breakdown in the harvard-harris survey, it's unbelievable. women 58% favor bernie sanders. men 55%. african americans, 73%. >> part of that, i'm wondering because i've zone a parallel between younger supporters particularly that were enamored with ron paul. it's almost safe to idealize these politicians because you know they're never going to whip. >> there's one thing about this long-term, millennials -- we talk about millennials. 90 millions person strong generation. they believe that socialism is a better system of government and economics than the free market and capitolism. >> thanks, colleges. >> they might grow out of that once they get out in the real world, but right out in long-term, that side doesn't look so good for republicans and

looks good for the democrat party. >> what do you feel about that? >> she put her finger on the cricible. winning primaries or elections. they're looking at primaries right now. >> mitt romney has nothing to worry about. nor "outnumbered" coming up. i like that. [ music stops suddenly ] ah. when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. awww. try this. for minor arthritis pain, only aleve can stop pain for up to 12 straight hours with just one pill. thank you. ♪ come on everybody. you can't quit, neither should your pain reliever. stay all day strong with 12 hour aleve.

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>> thank you so much to ari fleischer, so wonderful to have you today. speak i hope it was not a sophomore slump. >> i cannot believe sean spicer took up so much of your time. unbelievable. >> good to have you, we will have you back. we will keep it right here for overtime, "happening now" now. >> jenna: fox news alert, white house briefing wrapping up and as usual covering a broad range of topics. >> jon: tensions on the korean peninsula, the house in georgia and a new build to benefit our veterans. recovering all of the news "happening now" ." >> this is a new era. this is a trump era. the lawlessness, abdication of duty to enforce our laws and the catch and release policies of the past are over. >> jon: attorney general jeff sessions sending homeland security secretary john kelly to the southern border in a first joint trip as that trump administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration and the infamous ms-13