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be drawn into precedent. integrity and humility." he's held up pretty well over time, i would say. i'm martha maccallum. see you tomorrow night at 7:00. have a good night, everybody. ♪ ♪ >> dana: hi, i am dana perino. thanks for watching us tonight. let's get right to the top story. terror strikes the heart of paris yet again. a gunman opened fire on the city's famed champs-elysees, killing one police officer and seriously injuring two others. the suspect was shot dead by police following a foot chase. now, isis is claiming responsibility for the attack which comes just days before france's first round of its presidential elections. during a news conference is afternoon, president trump responded to the shooting. >> our condolences from our country to the people of france. again, it happens, it seems, i just thought as i was walking in.
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it's a terrible thing. it is a very, very terrible thing that is going on in the world today. it looks like another terrorist attack. what can you say? it just never ends. we have to be strong and we have to be vigilant. i have been saying it for a long time. >> dana: joining us now with more, from washington, fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. catherine, we have seen these toys come up before. what is difference about this one? >> dana, we are getting a lot of information from the french police, which tells us the individual was on their radar. that i identified him as a 39-year-old from the suburbs of paris, someone who had indicated their telegram, this is one of the encrypted apps that they wanted to tell police. also, it is very much a targeted killing based on the information that we have right now. to the suspect coming up to the police van along the champs-elysees, and then come opening fire with an automatic weapon. the claim from isis is significant, though, they offered no evidence to back up
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the claim. it's what we don't know tonight is whether the claim was opportunistic or the terror gro, whether this 39-year-old suspect had traveled to iraq and syria to be formally trained by isis, or whether they were simply inspired or directed through an encrypted app to carry out the attack in paris tonight. >> dana: so, they claim responsibility right away, we don't know if they did. the police were tracking him because of what? do we know why? >> because he was using one of these encrypted apps called telegram and he was voicing his interest in attacking the french police services. just for some context here, dan dana, we have hundreds of individuals who have interest to the fbi in this country. but in france, they have something called the s list, a list of individuals who are suspected of being radicalized. this database is 10,000 names. 10,000 names. it is impossible for the french
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police to provide 24-hour surveillance to even 10% of these individuals, which is why the situation in that country is so severe right now. >> dana: do do we know if the terrorist was a citizen of france, was he an immigrant, was he born there? >> we don't know that yet. we know they are from the paris suburbs. as you know from covering this issue in the past, the suburbs are often populated by individuals who have dual citizenship, so, they are french and often of north african descent or they are what we would call legal permanent residents. they have the right to live in france, though they are citizens of another country. >> dana: anything about the particular target? the target of the police officer, that would be one. also, the location, very symbolic. >> going for an attack on the champs-elysees is really out of the terrorist handbook, in the sense that it's an economic target. it's an area that is frequented
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by tourist people who are coming from outside of paris. so, it has a really significant economic impact. if you think that really captures my attention tonight and i think is the big bottom line for people at home, what we see in almost all of these attacks now is that the suspect is willing to die for whatever their cause or their motive or their messages. isis has been able to do something, if, in fact, it is isis inspired, that al qaeda was never able to do. they have been able to take suicide attacks and really bring them into the mainstream. i have here some documents. these are graphs that are posted by isis every month. it's their body count of suicide attacks. they do a breakdown for vests, four guns, for ied's, also, for vehicle devices. isis has been able to unfortunately popularize something that al qaeda was never able to do. i don't want to get ahead of ourselves. let's see what this guy's story
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is, let's see if he had any formal connection to isis, whether he was in fact a foreign fighter, who left france at some point, went over to iraq and syria, , and got training, or someone who is simply radicalized by the propaganda online. >> dana: catherine, thank you so much. for further analysis, thus bringing terror expect aaron collen, who joins us from los angeles. and from washington, jim hansen. aaron, you were pointing out the fact that they had ak-47s as a weapon. what is that signified you? >> a couple things, dana. one thing, you can't put an ak-47 in your pocket. so come originally some of the reports coming out, this could be a bank robbery or some kind of a heist. an ak-47 is a large assault style rifle. it's a large round, has a 30 round magazine. you can't just slip it down your pants, you can, but it will look funny. there's a lot of towels when it comes to caring that weapon. you need a bag, even if it will
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fold to be put in. if you are toting around champs-elysees with a ak-47 assault rifle, chances are there will be a couple of red flag indicators, that's one of them. >> dana: jim, i was going to ask you, i wanted to get a sense of how big the problem is, terrorist, lone wolves that invited indifference. i don't know if you are able to hear, care, catherine herridge said that on the s-list, there are 10,000 names. those of the ones they know of. >> that is horrifying to consider. i guess it is something we need to think about, why are all of those people there? are they french citizens, some of the migrants, potentially, some of those people might want to get a deportation order. patrick poole is an outstanding terrorism act, he coined the term "known wolf," not the lone
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wolf. they were aware of problems, they knew who he was, and they are watching him. i think potentially, the standard for what it takes to get a more severe punishment of some sort needs to be lowered, so, they can stop these guys before they attack, rather than another announcement that, we knew this guy, but we let him go. then, he started killing people. >> dana: aaron, do you think that isis is responsibility or do you think this was in any way trying to influence or impact the french national elections that happen in two weeks? >> dana, i think that isis was responsible. here's why. i think that isis apart up's ms operandi uses the internet to systematically recruit and entice and entice terror. europe seems to be the main gateway for being able to tap into these extreme religious pools of islamists, if you well. so, this is exactly what isis set out to do, three, four years ago with their playbook. let's use the internet. the lone wolf, i love jim is
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coming from, the known wolf, these lone wolves are part of the actual mosaic or the incubus system of how terrorists are being systematically used to be able to carry out attacks in europe and we have seen here in the states. yes, i do think that isis is directly responsible for this. i do believe that this was strategic in the event that we are a couple days away from the president's reelection. it's a great target. it's a high p.r. value. again, ak-47 was used to directly attack law enforcement, which has been repeatedly stated by isis in the propaganda. this is terror through and through. france has got to get tough and they got to start making sure that all of the police officers are armed and if they are trained to be able to shoot a terrorist and spot those threats before they produce that weapon in the middle of the streets and start cutting people down. >> dana: let me ask you both. jim, i'll start with you. this all unfolded right before the president was to have a press conference for the prime minister of italy about
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their discussions. he was asked about this issue and he commented right away. he said that it was an act of terror. i want you to look at what another network, msnbc, the initial reaction from those journalists over there. >> president trump said right off the bat to a question, it looks like another terrorist attack in france. we have nothing to report that but we'll have more reporting upcoming. >> the coverage is getting ahead of the fact. i think the president was referring to what he was watching on television. you do wonder, are people going to take what he said as some idea that he knows something more than what anybody else does. >> dana: jim, i understand the concern about getting ahead of the story, but what is your reaction to that? >> it's absurd. msnbc is an apologist for the islamists. they need to stop doing that. it was refreshing to hear president trump actually say whatever you sent into being can see. it was a muslim with an ak-47
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and a crowded shopping area. of course it was terrorism. after eight years of obama saying, isis is not islamic and we can't know their motives, that is a sign that at least our president now come out commander in chief, takes this seriously, knows who the enemy is, and is going to take the fight to them. i am pretty pleased with that. >> dana: the other thing he said in the press conference today, aaron, we are making progress in the fight against isis. would you agree? >> i think that president trump is being quite aggressive. also, and i'm going to add to jim's point, it's refreshing. donald trump might be a lot of things with one thing he is not afraid to be as aggressive. i think that -- i can tell you after living in israel and serving in a counterterror unit, that aggression is actually a tactic. when you were in a fight, especially an asymmetrical type of war, where you have people dispersing into crowds, whether it is you are syria, iraq, the
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middle east, you have to look at aggression as an actual tool. i think trump no space. it is refreshing. i think that he is -- i know that there are units being deployed as we speak to afghanistan and back into iraq. he is getting significant company more tough and he is not dancing around with these terror groups. you can't. the only thing they truly -- again, from experience, they understand is fear. i know that jim will agree with me on that one. >> dana: gentlemen, thank you so much. >> thanks, dana. >> dana: when we combat, the term presidency ready to hit his first 100 days. how was his report card so far? we'll have it next.
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self-assessment. >> as far as north korea is concerned, we are in very good shape. we are building our military rapidly. a lot of things have happened over the last short. lack of time. we have been here for approximately 91 days, we are doing a lot of work, we are in very good position. >> dana: joining us now from dallas to analyze, former trump campaign spokesperson catrina pearson, and from washington, the national spokesman for the 2004 bush-cheney reelection campaign. the first 100 days have gone by very fast. i don't know if anyone feels that way. >> they sure have. >> dana: let's have a report card for the report card. republicans give him high marks, democrats don't. but the top subjects for him, fighting terrorism, jobs and the economy, the worst of subjects, health care, climate change, and draining the swamp. katrina, i'll give you the first shot of describing this first 100 days. >> i think there will be criticism no matter who you ask,
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depending on what your top priority is. this president made promises to the american people and he is talking to them, whether you want to talk to coal miners are folks who will be building the keystone pipeline. the president has pulled out of tpp, he is blocking those regulatory environmentally factors that have been hurting small businesses. this is definitely a won for president trump. i will tell you, dana, almost say what i have said the whole time on the campaign trail. people have to be comfortable being uncomfortable because this president is unpredictable and he has a goal and he fights to win. >> dana: i remember earlier on i said we just have to embrace the chaos. the best way to get through it. one of the things that i think it is hard to show is an accomplishment is that when you are a republican that comes in or may be a democrat to republican, and you are trying to undo some things, like regulations, it is not something that is going to get vague/he had lines, not a big event, there is a lot of work that
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doesn't necessarily make it on the report card. >> it is easier work to do. you can come in and you can roll back some regulations from the previous administration, the previous administration clearly through a bunch of stuff up at the wall, knowing full well that a republican time at the end of the day. i may go to republican. i am not going to give this president a failing grade yet. but one of the things that does concern me and lowers his grade is his inability to stay focused on his agenda. he got a a for his agenda during the campaign, jobs, the economy, getting america back on its feet. but since then, there has been distraction, there is been defeated, there's been a scandal. this swamp that we call washington, d.c., is a very complex place to navigate. he has yet to master how to pull the levers of power so he can get what he wants.
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>> dana: one of the places -- go ahead. >> to be fair, some of those distractions are orchestrated by the left. there are a bunch of obama holdovers. >> they are always going to be there. >> we are talking about the first 100 days, for crying out loud. we did not get into this mess in 100 days, we won't get out of this mess in 100 days. the president has her deal with foreign issues, as well. >> dana: almost an exact quote from the obama administration about the bush administration, cleaning up the mess, president bush had to say the same thing about president clinton. i do want to ask you about going forward. in some ways, i feel like they're 100 days, while it's an important benchmark, it's not the most important. interestingly to me, the president is able to see two new supreme court justice in the first 100 days and everybody just sort of took it as he can do this. that is huge. that will have lasting impact that will be really big. the health care bill, that failure shows up in poll after paul met, people think this is not good. katrina, they say they are going
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to vote on another bill by wednesday. you think it is possible? >> i think it is possible. we have already heard that leaders from two other factions in the party have been meeting over the break to try to come up with a compromise, which is what they should be doing. republicans should be coming together. we shouldn't be here today, as president trump is being sworn into office and republicans don't have a bill ready to go. this is a congressional issue. the president has been leading on this issue since day one. i fully suspect it can be done this week. >> dana: what about you, terry? you have been involved in these fights before. he gets high marks for the prospects of tax reform but he also says he needs health care reform before he moved to tax reform. >> he has promised the american people jobs and lower taxes. one of the things, you heard it in his comments tonight, he says he is doing things very fast and very rapidly. things like health care reform tax reform or infrastructure reform, those things require a
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lot of time, a lot of effort, and a lot of leadership. undistracted leadership, where the president puts his -- the weight of his presidency behind an organized effort to build coalitions, to communicate clearly with the american people, and to find a working majority in the congress. the congress is a tough place to work. so far, that fractious relationship has been something that is lower the president's grade. >> dana: one thing that habits do happen before their first 100 races out, they have to pass this funding well. katrina, there was a report today that said that mick mulvaney, the president's omb director, said that the border funding must be in or they are willing to try to go all the way to shut down the government. what is interesting to me about that, i know that it's a presidential priority. it does show civility. in a poll we showcase last night on the show, it was only 38% of
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people who thought that the wall was worth doing. do you really think it is worth going -- pushing this all the way the line to chart on the government? that does not work out well for publicans were democrats? >> it works well, we have a historic election. we have blue states that turned red on the president's agenda. it's an extremely important to get past. this president has had more meetings and conversations with people from all of the crosses of the aisle, unlike any other president at this point. he is learning to navigate the congress, learning to navigate d.c., trying to get the deal. what is going to happen, what is going to come out of these negotiations? all i will say come people need to be comfortable being uncomfortable. >> dana: terry, do you think they should shut down the government? >> we have done wow up and down the rabbit hole many times and this time, we should avoid it. >> dana: there is no carriage down there and the rabbit hole. >> nothing but losing. >> dana: terry and katrina,
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♪ >> dana: in the "unresolved problems" segment tonight, are democrats doing more good than harm to president trump? some of the hard left fear the democratic party strategies to stop the administration may actually be sowing the seeds for future political triumph by the president. >> i'm a bernie sanders supported. i voted for jill stein. i want to make that clear. my feeling is that an election occurred. an incumbent on the defeated party should pull itself together or else we are going to get a reelection of the present administration. that is what i feel right now. >> you feel like he can get
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reelected? >> yes. i think the democrats have overplayed their hand and i just can't imagine -- >> you are already putting on his reelection less than 100 days in? >> yes, because what the democrats needed to do and with the major media needs to do was to do some -- >> by that, you mean the failing "new york times"? >> yes. >> dana: joining us now, austan goolsbee, former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama. this is called the "unresolved problems" segment. let's see if we can solve some problems tonight. you and me. >> okay. >> dana: do you think of the democrats have overplayed their hands and trying to stop trump at all costs? >> god, i hope not. first of all, she said she is a jill stein voter. thanks a lot, jill stein voters. there is multiple states where the margin of difference -- >> dana: like wisconsin. >> that said, i think she's right that often times after you
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lose an election, there is this, not a civil war, but they are sis sorting out of whose fault was this, why didn't they went? >> dana: i think a lot of democrats to look fake they are in shock, they have the thousand yard stare. >> i would agree with that. they just don't look like they are in shock. donald trump is making it easy for the democrats to get together. you lived it on the republican side. you don't need to resolve all of your references. if there is some enemy that unites everyone that they really don't like, that brings them together. as i view it, if you pour some wine and some chicken broth and a glass, that doesn't taste very good. but if you heat that thing up over a fire for about 10 minutes, that is a real sauce. >> dana: i might drink that. [laughs] i'm assuming that you would think that republicans overplayed their hand and saying no to president obama. >> yes...
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electorally, they played their hand, obama won handily both times. i would say the republicans did a very good job if you go out to the states turning the state legislators, getting the governorships. i wonder, are the rules a little different here, and that donald trump has never had the support of the majority of america. he didn't get an election day, on his hundredth day in office, he had the lowest approval rating in the history of polling for someone on their hundreds day. i don't know that -- in a way, these two things contradict each other. if you think the democrats are doing so well that they are pushing back and they have overplayed their hand, that is the opposite of the argument that the democrats can't agree on anything and they need to sort out their differences. >> dana: what do you think will happen next week? apparently, the congress will come back and they are ready to vote on health care. what do you think? >> that is a gift that keeps on
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giving to the democrats. [laughs] this thing is like the son of frankenstein. >> dana: four people out there that need help on fixing obamacare. >> i agree with that and if you look at the new version of trump care, they are going to make it so that if you have ever had a pre-existing condition, your prices can go way up, at the estimates are, if you have had breast cancer, your premium will go up $28,000 a year. the thing is, that will never pass. even if by some miracle, they can convince the house to pass that, it's a terrible idea and when it goes to the senate, the republicans in the senate will kill it and if by some miracle, the republicans didn't kill it, the democrats would kill it. >> dana: they might dispute those numbers. math is not my best strength. when you said earlier today, you said that the democrats are very comfortable having their civil war. you guys are comfortable.
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i feel like republicans rehash it over and over again we keep saying, no, we do get along. do you think the democrats to a better job than republicans that accepting differences of opinion? especially when you look at the bernie sanders-hillary clinton - >> there is no organization. there is the old will rogers line about the member of an organized party, i am a. there is a certain tolerance for dissent that i think is natural. if that upsets you, there is nothing you can do about it. democrats do disagree. i think they are pretty united. they do not like what trump is doing. >> dana: before i lose you, i want to ask you but one of the things president trump talked about, which is the dairy fight, the farmers up and the northern states are having with canada. he said that the canadians are being unreasonable and that they need to get to the table. do you agree? >> not really. >> dana: this is not going to
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solve any problems. [laughs] >> this is the fifth of the five biggest trading partners that he has started a trade war with. if we want to sit down with canada and mexico and renegotiate parts of nafta, we could do that. the tpp, what you got rid of, actually was a renegotiation of nafta. we could agree on a bunch of the best parts of tpp, just go out and declare our friend's enemies. >> dana: how about infrastructure plans? we can agree on that. i am like 1 for 9. thank you so much, austan. next on "the rundown," the mainstream media goes gaga for the mainstream candidate in george's election. bernie goldberg on that warm and away --dash
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still failed to get the 51% to avoid a runoff against republican karen handel. despite that, many in the media are declaring victory for ossoff and framing it as a failure for donald trump. >> 48.6% of the vote going to the democrat. >> the district is overwhelmingly slotted to be republican. democrats had an emotional victory but ed is going to be hard to translate to june. >> dana: the white house is not taking very kindly to the coverage. >> i thought that some of the coverage was a little intriguing as i watched it. the democrats went all in on this race. they spent over $8.3 million. they said on the record that their goal was to win this race. they lost. the reaction has somewhat been that they almost won. no, they lost. >> dana: joining us now to analyze for miami, the purveyor of bernardgoldberg.com. i have always wanted to have a chance to do for you, sir. do you think that the headlines
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for these stories were written before the election took place? >> yes. yes. >> dana: [laughs] i thought you might think so. >> to the extent that this race in georgia was an indication of how popular donald trump is in the district, okay, it showed he is not popular. but there is no bullets in there. in november, when he ran for president, this is a heavily republican district. he won by only one percentage point. and in this case, the democrat ran against 11 republicans who split the vote. so, we have no idea of how impressive the democratic candidate was the other day. we'll know more in june if the democrat wins, yes, this will be a repudiation of donald trump's popularity. fair enough. but i have this funny feeling, dana, that if the democrats lose, it will still be played as
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a moral victory because he came so close to winning. one way or the other, donald trump, as far as the media plays the story, donald trump is not going to come out the winner in the story. >> dana: if you were to win in june, that would be a big story printed if the republican wins, of course, it was a republican district. of course. >> exactly. >> dana: let me ask you about a study that was put out last night by the media research center about the media's 100 day more against trump. apparently, the negative coverage way out the way in, about 91% negative in the first. how does that go? >> i think there are two reasons were so much negative coverage. the first reason, and donald trump's most loyal supporters, people watching us right now, will not believe this, but donald trump brings a lot of it on himself. i will give you one example. that survey said that 99% of the coverage was negative when he
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talked about president obama wiretapping trump tower during the campaign. he is lucky it wasn't 100% negative because it isn't true. if it was true, he would have -- president trump would have provided the evidence by now. >> dana: that story actually turned into a multi-week story. that happened on a saturday morning, several weeks ago, and is still is a headline. >> but negative coverage isn't necessarily the same as bias coverage. that was negative. but i think legitimately negative. the second reason is a lot less complex. a lot of reporters just plain don't like donald trump. it isn't has policies that they don't like. they don't like them, either. it isn't primarily his policies. it's him they don't like. they don't like his style, they don't like the way he talks, they don't like his bragging, they don't like a whole bunch of things about him.
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dr. flex and the negative coverage. >> dana: can you give me -- you go back to when you were working at cbs, was there another example where they didn't like a certain president of the cupboard >> i was a network correspondent for 28 years. what i did notice, dana, there was a correct, i am putting that word into gigantic quotation marks, a correct or exceptionald position on all sorts of things. there was a correct position on race. you don't to negative stories on affirmative action. there is a correct or acceptable position on gender and abortion. we know what those are. now, i think, there is an acceptable, i want to make clear to everybody out there, i am putting the word in quotation marks, and "acceptable" or correct position on donald trump. and that is he is a mistake. he doesn't belong in the white house. he is unfit. from that, flows the negative
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coverage. since "the new york times" is the liberal bible to the media, since "the new york times" is relentlessly negative on donald trump, that gives permission to the networks to be negative also and that reflects and that poll, the survey, the media research center data. >> dana: it is interesting that the democrats, last week, someone who worked to mcclintic campaign, she thinks that the media was quite biased against democrats. is it a matter of where you sit? you feel like you're being attacked by the media? >> a lot of it is. i would give you a long drawn off answer. the short answer is yes. if you think, if you are a big hillary clinton fan, you thought there was too much time spent on her email servers. if you are a donald trump fan, you thought anything negative about donald trump was a bias in that direction. you are right. >> dana: biases in the eye of the beholder. but we have no bias. [laughs] >> not always.
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>> joined by trump now. [laughter] >> about to deal with an unstable man who has nuclear weapons. what could possibly go wrong? >> dana: according to the senator, president trump and king jeong own are just as big and dangerous to the world. joining us from st. louis to analyze, the former chairman of the missouri republican party and with us in new york, professor of political science at iona college. let me argue, do you think that was funny? >> yeah. i think it is comical in the sense that it's united states enter that wants to run for president that think she is very important. that she is doing something so awed. it is funny in the sense it is sad. elizabeth warren is taking things to the bottom pretty quickly. as long as she and the democrats are doing things like that and yelling "the russians," the american people are not distracted. the morning she did that, trump was in wisconsin saying "buy american, higher american." that is the contrast. >> dana: that is a good
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points. she is basically out there, she is a new book out, she is making the rounds and on the television shows. do you think that comments like this hurt her or is she just trying to gin up support within the base? >> in this environment, those kind of comments don't hurt at all. look at our president. he made his name during the campaign calling elizabeth warren pocahontas. he made his name attacking people like john mccain and many, many others. this doesn't hurt unfortunately. i think that is a sad commentary. i don't think it is funny at all. i don't think you should go on national television to disparage the president anymore than i think a sitting president or a candidate should disparage the senior senator from the state of massachusetts. i think they are both wrong and we need to elevate this kind of discussion. this is a very serious threat we are dealing with with north korea. this kind of rhetoric doesn't help at all. she is an honor and entertainment show. >> dana: i understand that joy
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behar is a comedian. i do think that in some ways, it's a little too close to the line for me, ed. i do worry about civility in america. i take jeanne's point, things have changed, and maybe we have taken that seal off, can we get it back? >> i think jeanne is right. i'm glad we can announce the headline of the segment will be that the democrats, republicans, denounced elizabeth warren. she went too far. a nuclear power. this is like the cuban missile e crisis, pretending it's okay to make fun of the presidents. let's be clear. elizabeth warren is showing a book and she's on "the view" for one reason, not just because her reelection is up for grabs, she is running for president and in 2020. the great news for republicans, if the republicans continue to put a people like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, yelled out the russians are coming insult people, and left on "the view," dana, out here where people, america, the heart of the country, we are not fooled. trump is on the side of the
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people and these people in the swamp up there are making jokes on "the view." it will cost the democrats. >> dana: it's interesting because, jeanne, i wonder if the democrats continue to not understand why they lost the election. i realize it was close at most three states. but the buy american, hire american effort in the whole marketing campaign spoke to the voters that came out to vote for him. what do you think the democrats are thinking? >> i think they are thinking that they do have to look back and see what happened in the last election. they do have to have some self reflection. they do have to move forward. i think they are trying to do that. i am glad ed and i can agree that neither the president nor the senior senator from the state of massachusetts should be engaging in this kind of rhetoric. the american people, whether in the middle country or on the coasts, deserve a lot better. you don't undignified people like that. i think that is what is frustrating. we should, as a ed mention, be
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focused on the american public. that is that what the republicans and democrats should do. for the president in february to call her pocahontas again is absolutely unfortunate and i'm sorry, uncalled for. i think we should say pox on both their houses. >> dana: if i get would you both on spot with a theory. that is a book that came out tuesday, elizabeth warren's book. in january, on the new year's show of "the five, i predicted that senator al franken would position himself to try to run in 2020. now, elizabeth warren has a book out, guess who is a book out coming in the end of may? al franken. a ed committee think it is a possibility? >> for sure. the democrats know there is no bench. hillary cleared the bench by not allowing the party to grow. i think right now, it is wide open. i think tom perez thinks he is going to run for president. i think five or six senators. elizabeth warren and frank and think they are good with the media. they think it is a yuck it up.
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trump is much more masterful at communicating to the working americans. >> dana: what do you think of my prediction? al franken? >> i think he is going to run. i think you will see andrew cuomo. i think the branches deeper than you think. >> dana: if that happens, i will be 3 for 3 on my predictions on new year's eve on "the five." better keep watching. jeanne, ed, thank you so much. directly ahead, it is the high holiday for marijuana users everywhere. new polling shows a remarkable shift on legalization. geraldo joins us with his thoughts next.
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as 4/20. i had to be told what that meant. a de facto holiday for marijuana enthusiast everywhere. a new poll from "cbs news" is giving them a reason to celebrate. support for marijuana legalization is at an all-time high. 61% of americans wanted to be legalized, 33% said it should say illegal. in the hands of the state where it has been legalized, marijuana is turning into a multibillion dollar industry. it is also not without some downsides. joining us down to analyze, fox news correspondent at large, geraldo rivera. so, i was a "just to say no" kid. nancy reagan's program. i was eight, nine. i believed that if my brain were an egg, that would be my brain on drugs. i never did it. i am trying to understand the case for legalization. >> you are one of the few people in the building, i would venture to say, that has not tried pot. >> in the country. >> i remember turning on my mom and dad at one point in time, it didn't last that long.
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the fact is, the vast majority of people are in favor of the legalization. 88% of americans believe that medical marijuana should be appropriate, 61% site for cbs poll think it should be legalized. it is spreading like wildfire. you mentioned the fastest growing business. as the fastest growing business sector.com. it is growing at 25% a year. it is already $70 billion, it will be over $20 billion by the year 2021. it is a fact of life. 26 states now have some kind of legalization, either medical marijuana or absolute legalization. colorado, washington, california, massachusetts, maine, nevada, have passed laws that make it legal. it is spreading, it is inevitable. the only fly in the ointment is the mixed signals from the trump administration. >> dana: friends of mine that live in colorado, i was going to
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say my cousin is in the business apparently, i have not been, but i hear her place is fabulous on the 16th street mall in denver. >> a little plug there. [laughs] >> dana: other friends of mind to say that the rise in homelessness is taxing the system. there are way more populated car accident, and they have the increase of kids in the hospital because of access to marijuana, whether it be accidental or higher thc content. >> i have not seen reliable statistics to back up, to cooperate, any of those negative downsides. i think it is being studied now. i think that as with the end of alcohol prohibition, there is a time when people have to learn exactly when they get high, you never go to work high. >> dana: pot smoker should stop being jerks and maybe people would be more accepting. [laughs] >> i also know for the record that greg gutfeld went to berkeley. i wonder -- >> dana: he did. he is prone legalization. he is like the prone
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legalization of drugs. >> i have to say about the attorney general, i think for him to say that marijuana is only slightly less awful than heroin, is really so factually incorrect. it staggers my mind. i mean, for the record, i want people to know that in the 1970s, unlike you, that was my decade, i was on the board of the national organization for the reform of marijuana law, along with the senior senator from new york at that time, jacob. >> dana: i put you guys had great meetings. >> we had great meetings. it was a very high-functioning, successful group, all of us in our own way. but what happened was, then, you had aids and cocaine, very serious things, the reagan "just say no," the big adverse response to all drugs, pot got swept up and this evolution that i thought would happen much more rapidly was put off. now, slowly --
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>> dana: are you willing to share about the industry? i thought that was interesting. >> i just came back from telluride, and the last couple of weeks, skiing in telluride. beautiful resort, you know what wall. there are four big pot shops in town. they don't stick out. they are like the pubs. they are not like in amsterdam, where you have the pod copy shop. they are subtle, they are discrete, they are absolutely revitalizing the colorado ski industry. people aren't going to utah anymore, although, utah is attracting a lot of attention. now, colorado has been reinvigorated, vail, aspen, all those places that you know and love, are now, because of this other aspect of it, you know, the fact that it is illegal and appropriate -- >> dana: i am trying to get there. >> you don't do it in public, you don't do it at work. it is the same adjustments that people have to make. >> dana: you are chipping away at my opposition. keep talking about her. her brother, thank you. coming up next, the judge
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book eggment tonight, the outrage of the week. gonzalo curiel. president trump last year over mexican heritage will hear a highly controversial case over a dreamer deport to mexico. with us now is judge justice jeanine, i she airs week on fox news channel. you don't think there should be any sort of comment about the judge's heritage, right? have you already is he that. >> yeah. yeah. look, one of the things that you can't do an you shouldn't do, in spite the feek fact that we have free speech is criticize out judge. you never know when that judge's name is going to come out of the wheel again in those random assignments. >> dana: like companies you
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are flies on your way up because you don't know how will meet on your way down. >> i remember when i was a judge my name would be in the wheel and you get random assignments and the wheel just stops at that name. this ixample. i have to tell you this, i truly believe that a federal judge, even though whether he was picked to handle this case or not, is going to recognize that he is above all this other stuff. is he going to dig deep into who he is and make a decision based upon the law. >> dana: i feel like junction must have camaraderie that press secretary do. you understand it's a tough job and you don't criticize each other. >> don't criticize with each other and commiserate with each other and follow the law. we get it that's one of the reasons judges hang out together. because you can't be involved so much in the politics of what's going on in the world. you have to step away from it. >> dana: so, he is going to hear a very specific case as we talked about last night on the show about previously protected dreamer who either was deported or went to
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mexico and then tried to sneak back and then got picked up again. but there is a distinction as that case gets listened to by the judge, there also is this question about should dreamers have just full protected status or is there a line that they cross if there is criminal activity, can they be deported? >> well, i think it's very clear that, look, number one, the laws are meant to be enforced and that's one of the reasons that donald trump was elected. that's what people want. donald trump has kind o of along with general kelly made it pretty clear. you know, this was a tough issue. these dreamers. these kids came here. they didn't ask to come here. they came here. this is the only country they know. we are going to give them this status, deferred child status. and but it's not an absolute protection against deportation. recognize that you have to follow certain requirements. one of the requirements is that you have to get preclearance if you're going to leave the country. >> dana: right. >> so the issue at stake right now is did this individual go back to mexico
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without the preclearance or, as he says, was he part of a catch and release which makes no sense at all that he was caught in california and then thrown back to mexico and had to sneak back. in it makes no sense. >> dana: let me just ask because if you were brought here as a 2-year-old child. you grew up your whole life here and now you are whatever age do you understand something wrong, can you actually be deported to a country that you never knew? >> yes. yes. because you have -- you are not considered a citizen. you were brought here illegally. and i won't even touch the issue. >> dana: but you don't even know that country that you came from. >> that's not the test. the law is very clear as it relates to citizenship. and at least being born here. and so the fact that you were field and given the benefit of the doubt by even president trump who said this is a very tough issue, general kelly they both said okay look, we're going to unless you are in a gang or
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threat to national security or a criminal. >> dana: i have got to run. all right. judge. i loved it. thanks. thanks for watching us i'm dana perino. tucker carlson is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and worker to tucker carlson tonight, another day and another apparent terror attack. isis is taking responsibility tonight for a shooting on the in paris. we have a live report from paris in moments. katie hopkins will be here to discuss the growing danger across that continent. but, first, the war over president trump's immigration policies continues tonight. juan emanuel mondays a montes ws deported in february. he said you should have been protected by daca. big twist though, the case will be
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