show? i can't. it's not my show and it is not my place. so on behalf of all of us on "the factor", good night, and godspeed. ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," ms 13 continues to ravage this country, will talk to the police commissioner of the suffolk county new york out of long island where the gang's numbers are suspected of killing four people in the most gruesome way possible. will get an update from there. first of the left wing a virtuous spiral continues without end. remember sanctuary cities? those are not enough any longer. oakland, california, city council just passed a resolution calling on employers to become what they are calling sanctuary workplaces, places that refuse to report potential violators. keep in mind that it's illegal for companies to employ people

here who are without documentation. is oakland calling for collective defiance of federal law? dan, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: i want to leave a something that just came across the wires i'm not even sure what to make of it. this comes from theof senate leader in your state, california. the president of the senate. he said this of the statement from the attorney general, about sanctuary cities. "it has become abundantly clear that the attorney general sessions and law enforcement policies on principles of white supremacy not american values." i don't know how to respond to that, let me ask you simply, do you agree with that? >> i don't know the context ofof that statement, i'm focusing on oakland although many cities in the bay area and california feel

the same way we do. o we want protect who live here and work here and otherwisete doing their day-to-day work, did a job. we are requesting not requiring that workplaces call themselves and act in effect like sanctuary -- >> tucker: this is the leader of your party and the california state senate, i just want to ask do you think it's legitimate to describe your opponents on this question, people who think we ought to enforce immigration law as white supremacists? >> there are a whole range of people throughout the country who believe certain things, some of them certainly may be white supremacist, i have no way of knowing., >> tucker: he's callingof attorney general of the united states and the president of united states white the premises. this is not a fringe guy.

this is the head democrat in the biggest estate. it's not something we picked off the internet. >> i know him, he's a good guy, he's trying to protect people in his state in his district, i'meo not calling a name anybody individually. there are people who are all t over the country some of them certainly might be white supremacist. >> tucker: this kind of rhetoric it scares the hill out of people it ends the conversation it doesn't begin it. you can't have a rationales conversation of people throw around the term white supremacist. if you are saying that employers ought to offer sanctuary for people who are working for them illegally, you're conceding that's okay one of course it's a violation of federal law to work using fake papers and fake social security number. >> were not telling employerss they should hire people who they are not allowed to hire. they're saying whoever is working at a private place of employment, we want to make sure people who show up for their work day in and day out can do their job without fear of being dragged out and split up from their families. that helps nobody, it doesn't help employers, it doesn't help

employees, it doesn't help our local economy. we're trying to make our economy thrive in people who have jobs are able to do jobs without fear hanging over their head, the local economy needs that. >> tucker: not everybody wants that, it addressed your cities and cities like it. officials like you seem a more concerned about "reassuringg illegal immigrant stent with morning ms 13 members that they are next," their focus on protecting people illegally andd not stopping illegal crimes. do you think that describes you? >> don't know, it doesn't. it's not one or the other. there is such a small percentage of people who might be undocumented who might beor committing serious crimes. most people who commit crimes are not undocumented residents,

they are people who have been here for a long time and here legally, that's not up for debate. crime is a serious problem. no one is saying that crime isn't a serious problem in oakland in every major city, we want our police officers focused on responding to serious 911 calls, investigated violentt crime and reducing violent crime. >> tucker: i've heard the talking points but you have it right in front of you countervailing evidence that does this. i.c.e. agents recently arrested 11 ms 13 members here illegally in the bay area. by definition, they are part of a criminal cartel that murders a people and sells children into prostitution and they are here because no one is enforce immigration laws. were you sad that they were picked up by i.c.e.? >> no, if somebody's committed a violent crime, they should bet dealt with no matter who they are.

that has been the case not just in the current administration in d.c. but in the obama administration as well. what i'm focusing on besides my question about housing andy public safety overall, in terms of making sure people who are s here who are otherwise law-abiding people are not the focus of our efforts, our efforts need to be providing housing to people, building local economy.co if somebody is committing a, violent crime, no matter who they are, they should be dealt with -- >> tucker: the fact, i'm not sure if you are aware of them could buy a huge percentage of the prison population is here illegally. i'm not arguing that illegal aliens are more likely to commit a crime than nativee born americans but they do commit a lot of crimes, they do. ms 13 is a prime example and yet they're not even mentioned on your website, no mention of ms 13. you strongly support the creation of a comprehensive vegetative management plan to stop wildfires but that sounds fine to me but shouldn't you eat at least mention the fact that there is gang problem that'sen predicated on the presence of a

lot of illegals. >> i talked with our police chief and former police chief numerous times, oakland like many cities has gang problems most of those gang problems are not regarding undocumented residents, everybody knows that. if there are specific examples and exceptions were a portion of a gang somewhere or an individual who is committing a violent crime is convicted of that crime happens to be undocumented they should be dealt with harshly just like anybody else. most people who are undocumented are not committing crimes other than jaywalking. let's not exaggerate the reality of the situation. >> tucker: that's a lie as you know.. you just conceded it yourself. if you are here illegally and you are using a stolenou social security number and you are if you are working then you are committing a felony punishable by five to ten years in prison.

by the way, can i use stolen identity? >> we have serious and violent crimes in our city, probably city you live in as well i'm sure. we have to focus our policeou force in our police efforts and law enforcement efforts in responding to serious 911 calls, investigating murders and other serious and violent crimes into doing the good community 9 policing efforts i think he would agree with that. >> tucker: your police department in oakland is famously rife with problems, three police chiefs in eight days last year, scandals, corruption. you are set to lose over $5 million in federal funding if you don't chase that his policies, will that make oakland safer? >> we receive no direct communication that any funding is at risk right now.ve >> tucker: the attorney general just said it. >> we've received no direct communication. if that funding is at risk, we will deal with it accordingly, i

know there are lawsuits under way to prevent that from happening i don't know what's going to happen there. all i can tell you right now isr we are focusing on housing issues, law enforcement, public safety, -- >> tucker: were almost out of time, people who are here illegally get free housing or subsidized housing too? >> i'm talking about a broader set of issues we care about in oakland. >> tucker: to people who are here illegally get taxpayer subsidized housing. >> i'm not aware of that, but housing overall, law enforcement, public safety. we're trying to make sure that >> tucker: no, i got it. >> so employers -- people don't get pulled out, and split from their families. >> tucker: i'm sorry to cut you off i heard you and i appreciate you coming on

tonight. what's going on in oakland right now shows the idea of opening up america's borders to anyone who wants to come here is increasingly popular. the concept of open borders may even become part of left-wing orthodoxy. it basically already is. what would that look like if we had open borders here? dave is a former journalist and diplomat, he wrote a piece on that. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me on the show. >> tucker: you say in this piece that you're not anti-immigrant, like almost other american, you like immigrants. you raise a question what would happen if we actually did what many in on the left are calling for, i pose that question to you, what would happen? >> it would be a really unfortunate situation especially for working-class america. i think as americans we forget how lucky we are to be born in the country like this, and unfortunately for everyone united states or u.k. or

germany, there are ten uzbekistans, venezuelas, and somalias. there are countries in the world that are dysfunctional and corrupt that people areou lookig to get out of.f. rich countries like ours that people want to go to, it's a problem of supply and demand. this bill and interesting conversation but it's been stopped in its tracks intentionally by the left throwing up stuff about white supremacy and racism, is it inherently racist to say i control who comes into my country. >> of course not, but it's been a very effective tool to silence dissent. anyone who says we need to limit immigration edge no matter the fact that we are talking about limited to get from white countries, black countries, brown countries, yellow countries is labeled as a xenophobic and a racist. it's a very effective way toy silence dissent, the president

has said some incendiary things about immigrants and that's played right into thes left's hands. he's allowed to the left to equate limiting immigration which is a very reasonable topic, it's what we need to do with racism and xenophobia. it's been very effective for them but it's very unfortunate because it's not an honest debate. the american people aren't informed based upon it. >> tucker: what i find. so confusing is that the left traditionally has stood fordo a pristine environment, conservation, keeping the outdoors beautiful, i'm for those things, by theha way.hi what would happen to the environment if you open borders? >> that's right, i would hate to even think about it but imagine the air quality in a city like los angeles. imagine what the traffic in thew air quality and the water situation, the water shortagee situation in a chronic drought area like southern california, if you completely open the borders. environmental groups ten, 20.

years ago used to be willing to admit that we needed to limit immigration, now the left is essentially on message. anyone who wants to limit immigration is a xenophobic. if we don't want to talk about what with this country look like with 500 million people what would it look like a 700 million people? there's hundreds of millions ofr people around the world who m would like to move to a country like at the united states. as much as we might like to let the men, most immigrants i think are good people. who wouldn't want to come to the united states? if i was born in somalia or venezuela or syria what i want to come here? of course i would. you can't blame them for wanting to come.la we need to look out for our own interests and our interests aren't in being a country of 500, 700, 900 million people they just aren't. >> tucker: the left is pushing policies that would wreck the environment and shaft the working class, this is not the liberal group i grew up with at all.l. >> not just the left the country club wing of the republican

party, let's not let republicans on this matter as well. even the president someone whopa made a very liberal use of the h2 b visa, let's not just talk about the left, let's talk about the hypocrisy of the republican party as well. >> tucker: if the republican congress wanted to seal the borders it would've been done long ago, i agree with that completely. thanks for being with us. up next, ms-13 has become the country's deadliest gang, howks are police attempting to keep things under control, will talk to someone on the front lines of that, a police chief from long island who has long experience fighting them. president trump has weighed in on france's upcoming election, much more interesting than most foreign elections. will the french follow his suggestions or rebel against itmp?

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>> tucker: recently on this show, we've been raising the alarm on ms-13, we've been doing this because we think it'ssh important. it's an international crime cartel it's not an overstatement.t. based in el salvador, rapidly become one of america's largest and deadliest street gangs. there are more than 10,000 members in this country, they

run criminal enterprises and at least 40 states.y how bad are things getting on america's streets and what are d police doing to keep them in check? police chief on suffolk county new york where they were suspected in a horrific quadruple homicide. thanks for coming on. tell us first about this crime if you would comment on this quadrupleho homicide. >> last week, we had four homicides, these individuals all of whom were young people brutally and a savagelynd murdered, we suspect ms-13 involved in it, this is not the first set of homicides committed by ms-13 in our community. in september of 2016 we tragically lost 15-year-old and a 16-year-old girl who went to brentwood high school and they were savagely murdered. by ms-13. we solved that case.e.

those individuals have been federally indicted and they are eligible for the death penalty. now we have thisn quadruple homicide in central isip which is right next to brentwood where they prior murders were and, we've declared war on ms-13, we've rolled out a very aggressive strategy, this is a long-term war and as you mentioned repeatedly, ms-13 is a serious threat. >> tucker: by the numbers, a greater threat to americans than isis. brutality seems to be the hallmark of a lot of what they do. >> they engage in violence for the sake of violence. many gangs will use violence to protect their economic crimes like a drug dealing, other economic crimes. ms-13 will use violence to increase its reputation on the streets. the level of brutality is unique to ms-13. we need to be doing everything we can to combat this gang. >> tucker: it is not just

shooting people. it's doing things i want demonic don't want to describe on television. that are legitimately horrible. where did this come from? ten years ago we were not doing segments on ms-13. >> ms-13 has its roots in el salvador, guatemala, and honduras. oftentimes, they will prey onhe recent immigrants to this country, they will pray on the vulnerable, they will pray on the young and indeed we've had a large influx of immigrants from guatemala, honduras, and el salvador in many of our communities in suffolk county. these are individuals who are young, oftentimes they are not here with their parents, they don't speak english. if this is the first time they are in this country and they are vulnerable. ms-13 will prey on these individuals and that's a serious problem we have throughout this entirein country. >> tucker: were rolling tape about federal immigration officers arresting ms-13uc members, do you have any sensee for how many active members of the gang are here illegally? >> i wouldn't have that number but i will say this.

certainly, they prey on i individuals who come here illegally, many ms-13 members are clearly here illegally, most people who are here undocumented are law-abiding folks. we've seen significant crime reduction in communities that have a lot of undocumented immigrants. nonetheless, that doesn't change the fact that many ms-13 gang members are folks that came here illegally.an out of the 13 defendants who will are indicted in the u.s. attorney's office, five of whom were indicted for murders that i described lisa makin and nikita cuevas, seven were folks who came through the unaccompanied children program. 11 came here illegally. >> tucker: this problem has been growing for the last ten years, do you think even getting the federal support that you need? >> we work closely with our law

enforcement partners, our strategy is very clear, it's all about intelligent spirit we collect as much intelligence as possible, we identify gang members and we target them aggressively.nt we utilize gang members and they suffolk county police department who are highly effective officers, utilize our firearms suppression team which are very motivated and highly trained officers and we make history to arrests. we've made over 170 arrests of known gang members all the while working with our federal law enforcement professors partners to build those rico cases. >> tucker: it killed the mafia. >> it's effective because it carries these penalties, if you assault someone on the street and you punch them in the face you're not going to do significant time for that in-state system but if you can prove that it's in furtherance of gang activity in furtherancei of ms-13, it's a whole other ball game and you can make a

federal case out of it. rico was very effective, usually it carries a maximum of life imprisonment, sometimes the death penalty. >> tucker: thanks a lot for filling us in on that, i appreciate it >> thank you. >> tucker: time for news abuse we bring you a snapshot from the america's decadent and decaying mediaa establishment, and the spotlight, msnbc. there's a lot of reasons why then why venezuela's people are upset and rising up in violent protest against the socialist government. there's no toilet paper or meet there, the currency is worthless, the supreme court hasn't tried to abolish the entire legislature for daring to oppose the dictator who was running the place into the ground. it's a disaster in venezuela. given all of this, who did msnbc blame it for the turmoil there? if you guessed donald trump, give yourself a million

worthless venezuelan bolivars as a prize. the real reason is that petroleum is a subsidiary to the state oil company donated money to trump's inaugural fund, that's a crime according to them. a sin worse than destroying their own country, that's their up next, france suffered yet another terror attack. just days before a presidential election. these repeated outbreaks of islamic violence swayed the french electorate, should they? we'll discuss with a former spokeswoman from the obama state department. stay tuned. t. get a cash rebate of up to $3,000 on selected models. t. or get the outlander l,

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>> tucker: one update on yesterday's shooting attack in paris -- one that killed one police officer and wounded several more, french police have released some basic information about the shooter who was killed during the attack. already spent years in prison he had for offenses including attackses on the police.ee they have not officially announce what his motives might have been. president trump tweeted about the attacks, "the people of france will not take much more of this, will have a big effect on the presidential election. ", she joins us now, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me.

>> tucker: do you think there's a connection between marie le pen's position and the polls and that the islamic terrorist attacks. >> the polls are all over the place right now, i do think a security and terrorism is a key topic and not just last attack which has made the last 25 hours, what they've been talking about on the campaign trail but all of the attacks we've seen in france over the last months and years, security is a big issue there.ar this last attack has made this the focus at the end of the campaign. >> tucker: security is a pretty broad term, you have the truck attack, this thursday, yesterday, the one thread that connects them all is not just terrorism but islamic terrorism and a lot of cases homegrown. don't you think that ordinary french people might say well, that's a problem. >> yes, i do. i think they are having a conversation on how to confront

that. it's interesting this attacker was born in france, was not an immigrant, not a refugee because so much of what she is focused on is in immigration, the crisis. the french have a lot of thinking and talking to do about how to confront homegrownf radicalism, people who never travel overseas, who pick this ideology up on the internet. who may be on the radar of security services who don't really know what to do with. it is a hard problem. >> tucker: france imported but they are not connected to. there is a massive muslim population from algeria, 50 years they've been doing this, they have one of the -- i think the single biggest muslim population in europe and they also have one of the biggest muslim terror problems. under those two related? >> i think they are partially related, yes. i think that's a huge problem, the french along with the germans, and others are dealing with the largest refugee crisis since world war ii. that's one security problem how

you deal with an influx of refugees some of whom may harbor bad intentions.. but the french also have to a think very hard on how to confront homegrown radicalism. that is a toughro problem. i don't know if french voters will look at what marine le pen will sell to them and go with her. >> tucker: they contrasted with what the e.u. has been trying to sell them or western leaders around the world who are like there is is no islamic problem, there's nothing about religion, they are lying. may be people in france marie le pen is flawed but you are liars and you created this situation it's wrecking our country. >> i don't think that's a totally fair conclusion. i know it surprises you but i think french voters are facing a really unique election for them, one of the top candidates has never held elected office. that doesn't happen in france. she is a very far right party that has long been shunned in france that has newfound popularity today. >> tucker: i hear that a lot and i hear it from reporters who are down the middle repeating

this far right line, i don't understand what that means. why is marine le pen far right, she's very liberal on social issues, how is she far right? >> when i'm using that term -- >> tucker: everybody uses that term, what does that mean? i don't know what that means. >> to me it means policy on immigration and secularism in france which has long been a french tradition, her policies, last night she said let's close all the islamic mosques. that's a pretty far right position to take even in there wake of a terrorist attack. >> tucker: it far right if your for restricting immigration. i'm not far right. i'm just kind of right and for restricting immigration i don't think you should let hotbeds of nut cakes continue unmolested. >> she takes all of these issues to these farthest possible. she has at times called for a

complete shutdown of immigration. >> tucker: absolutely come on for that i think we need a cooling off period, immigration at the way we're doing it hurts the working class, it has real effects on the environment, i'm not far right, maybe i am. >> combined that with marine le pen flirting with getting out of the e.u., flirting with getting out of nato. i think this election is not overstating to say it could have an impact on the future of europe. i think it has a very interesting question that french people are looking at, obviousl in the u.k. we saw it with v brexit, it's not an overstatement to say that is what could come from the selection. >> that's what voters want, they get to decide maybe they decided those institutions haven't served their interest very well isn't that a legitimate conclusion? >> i think it's a legitimate s conclusion to say the e.u. hasn't been perfect. i worry, they look at the e.u. or nato in the wake of these two awful world wars help keep europe free and at peace, they

haven't served a lot of good, maybe they are not perfect but throwing the baby out withgo the bathwater seemed like a bad ide idea. >> tucker: 70 years ago, they were awesome. the far right is a way of dismissing her views as unacceptable as implicitly comparing them to not even worth discussing because they are crazy. wouldn't it be better to engage those views and say here's what the immigration level should be, here's why you're wrong rather than name-calling and dismissing. >> i didn't use some of those names that you used. i think politically speaking she is very far right of center. >> tucker: not according to, me, not according to matt american national opinion her up views are left of center. >> according to most of french political analysts. >> tucker: what they're trying to say is marine le pen is a wacko. if you support her, you're a wacko too. that's one of the reasons people are staging a revolt againstst

them because they refused to engage with the ideas beneathas the slogans, don't you think? >> i think what is interesting as we have a race that is happening on sunday i think we'll know by about 2:00 p.m. on sunday there's a runoff or who wins at who loses where we really have no idea what's going to happen the polling is all over the place. t marine le pen is pulling very well. because of her policies, a lot of people who are worried about immigration or the transatlantic alliance are very worried about how she might do. >> tucker: some are true, i put myself in that category. thank you so much. that dreadful story of female genital mutilation in detroit has grown evenit worse. it's hard even to talk about it. today a physician -- were both arrested they came from across the country. the two were accused of being co-conspirators with jumala nagarwala, will continues to follow this story and like it

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he's recently warned that the ten years will see more economic disruption to the left 30 have he says that artificial intelligence will create the world's first trillion air. in addition to eliminating an awful lot of jobs. we talked with him about the future of work in america. >> tucker: you really believe h that were going to see an economic upheaval because of robotics and ai? >> no question were going through an evolution in technology. it used to be you told computero what to do and they followed your instructions, they followed your algorithms and gave you the answer. now you tell computers what to do and then they start to generalize and create new answers. it used to be they weree descriptive, then a little bit predictive. now they are becoming prescriptive. that ability to learn and to

generalize and be prescriptive is changing everything. >> tucker: what does it meanio for workers? what does it mean for employment? the obvious outcome seems to be a lot fewer people with jobs, do you think that's going to happen? >> i think in the short term, yes there's going to be quite a bit of displacement. if you work for software whether than software working for you,it you're probably at risk. if you're doing repetitive -- if your job is repetitive and you're doing the same thing over and over in short bites, your job is definitely at risk. when machines get a little bitit smarter, i'm not talking about t terminator type world, just smart enough to do repetitive tasks, those jobs are going to e be replaced by the same issue applies with robotics. >> tucker: you've already seen, obvious to the people in y the industrial economy are out of work and haven't been for a while. you're about to watch truck drivers, taxi drivers go out of business because of self-driving cars. what's the next group of professions going to be a eliminated by technology, do you think?

>> customer service, people who do repetitive things. ticket takers, receptionists, the more simplistic job, i don't mean to denigrate someone's profession that's not what i'm'm trying to get out. the more repetitive the job, the simpler it is to replace. >> tucker: the service economy is what you're saying. >> a lot of effects. >> tucker: you have about of the third of the american population not working already, massive numbers of people sitting out. if you increase that, the political ramifications of that could be really enormous. >> enormous, very much so. >> tucker: why are we accelerating. the government pays for some of the research that is bringing it about. why are they doing that? >> because you have no choice, guys like me are going to push technology as a matter what. i'm still going to push the technology envelope, that's what i do, that's the american way and i'll create a lot of jobs on the way but potentially there's going to be disruption. if you can to try to be a

luddite and i'm not saying you are. you can try to hold backwe progress because the last thing we want and we're seeing this already in robotics, you don't want a foreign power, you don't want another country taking the lead in the area of artificial intelligence and telling us what we can do and defining -- we are seeing that in robotics already. we are not the leader in robotics and i wrote a blog post saying that rather than just trying to make our roads a little bit nicer, make our bridges safer which areey needed, we should be sending money to build infrastructure, just like the president said that he was giving money to nasa and that was important and i agree. we also need to invest in robotics, we don't want to be dictated to and how we deal with manufacturing, we want to take the lead and see where we can take it. >> tucker: that seems fair, i wonder how you point out this is going to result even a greater migration of wealth into a smaller number of hands a trendd that we've seen in progress the last 15 years, where's the

obligation on the part of the people benefiting to everyone else? henry ford paid five bucks a day at the height of depression not because he had to come of the modern tech class gives less to charity, cares less about its workers it, it seems to me as an observer any group of mobile's in american history, why is that? shouldn't that change? >> i don't know if i agree with that i don't have data one way i or another. here's what i suggest.t. rather than when you lay off somebody to a job, not only do you retrain them because there's uncertainty attached with that, we don't know what to retrain people for. i think it ten years a liberal arts major is going to bein more valuable than a programming major is today but that's a different issue. i think when you're transitioning people from the old school jobs to what can be done or even if you can hire them, rather than just paying them, i think they should be paid in stock. dealing with incoming inequality, cash doesn't do it when you're investing at a 2% interest rate, cash doesn't do it when you don't know how to invest in a stock markets.

think you retain equity i there is value there and you can participate just like the ownero of the company do. the fortune 100 companies know this is a problem, every single one that i spoke to realizes this is a problem. i know that's one of the reasons why i've been able to talk to them because it's a a conversation, it's an issue we all know we need to solve.ee >> tucker: thanks a lot for that, i appreciate it. >> any time, i really appreciate it. >> tucker: coming up next, conspiracy theorists are losing their minds over power outages over various american cities, is that the weirdest story of the day? o we've got a couple of them and a panel to debate them, stay tuned. ♪ of difference. expedia, everything in one place, so you can travel the world better. it's how well you mow fast. it's not how fast you mow...

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>> tucker: we want to do a segment on weird news, turns out

there is just too much, we couldn't keep track so wegm narrowed it down to two, twoer f the weirdest stories floating around the internet today and two panelists will determine which is weirder, tonight, gabby margie arlo of theil "washington examiner" and former national charity counsel gillian turner both join us here, to you first. >> i love a good conspiracyhe theory, i know you do too. you may have heard about the major power outages in san francisco today, they actually struck new york and los angeles briefly as well but hit san francisco the hardest, almost 100,000 people without w power, 14 different neighborhoods were completely shut down, people were out in the streets and on masse, what you may not have heard and don't know is this was all orchestrated by the trump administration to distract from the russia story.

trump administration ties according to the twitter verse. a whole contingent of the social media universe rallied around this theory midway through the day to day and this actually started getting reportage. it turned out to be a substation fire that went on, an electrical substation. for a while, this theory hadsu gained a lot of currency. >> tucker: it wasn't the result of a crumbling third world of a structure in a left-wing state, it was trump's fault. >> i try to tell everyone it was your fault. >> tucker: city of my birth, can you top that? >> there's a new book out, a tell all on hillary clinton's failed 2008 and 2016 presidential campaign, there is one anecdote that talked about what she did after the 2008 presidential campaign to ensurec that going into 2016 if she gets cited to run for president of the democratic lawmakers would

indeed endorse her. what her team did was come up with these loyalty scores where they would determine how loyal democratic lawmakers were to the clintons. if they saw they weren't loyal, bill clinton would go out and campaign against these lawmakers to try to get them out of congress. >> tucker: they would rank them according to loyalty. >> 1-7. they called them the disloyal lawmakers. they coerced to them, these lawmakers that were may be a one or two, even the middle of that scale to endorse her coming into 2016 because they feared for their political future. >> tucker: she won every person without loyalty score, i would say you win because your story is just too real, it's nor surprising at all. loyalty scores for the clintons, or blaming russia. >> week after week, eventually i will win. >> tucker: you get a participation trophy, as is

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that's it for the show tonight and us at this hour. we appeared at nine nightly. and we are moving up to 8:00. a famous time slot and for good reason. for 20 years you trusted bill o'rielly to be straight with you. we'll hope to earn ha trust. we'll see you on on monday at 8:00. that will be sworn enemy of

lying. sean hannity is up next. mond. ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity," we are broadcasting again tonight from israel. earlier today that prime minister benjamin nentanyahu met with our defense secretary jim mattis in jerusalem right after his meeting concluded, i got to speak with the prime minister, we covered a lot of topics and got his take on the escalating tension that's all around the world. but first i started by asking the prime minister about president trump's upcoming meeting with the palestinian president abbas, here's the first part of our exchange. >> sean: on may 3rd, the president will meet with mahmoud abba