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>> a quick reminder about our new prime time line-up. tucker carlson moves 8:00 p.m. to 9:00. i'm melissa. here's shep. >> shepard: it's noon on the west coast. 3:00 at the white house where the president is racing toward the 100-day mark of his presidentsy and looking for progress on big issues. from tax reform to healthcare. that as lawmakers try to keep the government from shutting down this weekend. their biggest hurdle may be the wall. the one at the border. because democrats say paying for it could be a deal breaker. also north korea stirring up brand new trouble. threatening to sink a united states navy aircraft carrier and taking another american captive. today our u.n. ambassador revealing what could trigger military action. plus, need a lift? this flying car is set to go on
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sale this year. let's get to it. >> good monday afternoon from the fox news deck. president trump is going all in on his plan for a border wall. he made it the centerpiece of his spending battle on capitol hill. one that is threatening to shut down our government as he heads to 100 days in office. the white house says they feel "very confident" about where negotiations are headed. president trump is making a hard sell for the wall. he said it's an important troop for stopping drugs pouring into our country and poisoning our youth and many others. if the wall is not built, which it will be, the drug situation will never be fixed the way it should be. #buildthewall. congress has five days to pass a new spending bill to avoid a shut down. the trump administration is pushing the proposal to include funding for the wall and other programs. in exchange, trump officials are
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offering money for obamacare to help poor americans that might not be able to afford coverage on their own. here's what the white house budget director said yesterday. >> we're trying to get a border wheel to protect millions of low income americans against folks that are not supposed to be here. we're willing to talk about things that we want, things they want. that's how washington is supposed to work. i don't think anybody for sees or expects the shut down. >> shepard: democrats are standing firm against the wall. here's what nancy pelosi said yesterday. >> the republicans have the votes in the house and the senate and the white house to keep government open. the burden to keep it open is on the republicans. the wall is in my view immoral, expensive, unwise. when the president said i promised a wall during my campaign, i don't think he said he was going to pass billions of dollars of cost of the wall on
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to the taxpayer. >> shepard: he did not. candidate trump promised that mexico would pay for the wall. president trump said american taxpayers will foot the bill at first and mexico will pay us back. mexico says they won't. but the president says they don't want going to the border wall because it was still drugs and ms 13 gang members. eventually, at a later date, so we can get started early, mexico can be paying in some form for the badly needed border wall. again, mexico says that will not happen. the white house said today, mexico will pay for the wall. the last time congress let the government shut down was the 2013 during the obama administration. according to researchers in our brain room, if it happens again, national parks will close and irs will stop processing refunds and food safeties will stop.
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air traffic controllers will stay on the job and social security and medicare payments will continue and the fbi will remainly staffed if there's a shut down. back in 2013, the cia did put some employers on paid leave. john roberts is on the north line. is the white house -- what is the white house saying about the budget battle? >> they're working hard, shep, to try to cut a deal with the democrats to avoid a government shut down. that i have 4 1/2 days left to do it. midnight friday. portions of the government will run. the president doesn't want an exclamation point on the end of the first 100 days. two things he wants in the spending bill, $30 billion in additional spending for the pentagon for military and a lot of money for border security. some of that money will go to border patrol agents, some ice agents and $1.55 billion will go to the wall. the democrats, as you pointed
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out, don't want to put any money into that. you showed nancy pelosi's reaction. she went on to say that the border wall is a sign of weakness. at the end of the week, the omb director says he will have a deal that avoids a government shut down and those sentiments were echoed awhile ago. listen here. >> the work that director mulvaney and those have made in the negotiations have been very positive. they feel confident it won't happen. they're currently negotiating. we feel confident that they understand the president's priorities and it will come to an agreement by the end of friday. >> however, reach an agreement by friday may require more compromising than the president would like while the border wall is said to be his top priority, may also be expendable. when he was asked by the associated press whether he would sign a bill that didn't have funding for the wall, he
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said it might be too early to say. there's a sentiment that if the president gets most of the way to a deal, for example, he gets his 30,000 ice agents and border patrol agents and not a wall, may be a deal he can't walk away from. >> shepard: republicans are pushing for what appears to be a round two on healthcare. how is that going? >> if he doesn't get a healthcare deal, it would make him the first president that didn't have a cigsignature late achievement to hang his had on. the president said it's an artificial barrier but they would like to get it done. getting it done may be difficult. the tuesday group and tom mcarthur, the chairman of that and mark meadows have been working on language for a new amendment that they think could attract support from moderates and conservatives. probably no support from
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democrats we should point out. we may get the language of that soon. i'm told that it may be a bit of a heavy lift to get it done this week. the president would like to make it a priority. he said if the healthcare plan is approved, you'll see real healthcare and premiums will tumble down. obamacare is in a death spiral. some aides are saying it's unlikely he will get the deal this week. i asked the press secretary about it. >> do you agree that the assessment that a vote on healthcare this work is very, very unlikely? >> i think the vote will get scheduled when speaker ryan and leader mccarthy determines they have the vote and feel confident. we've been very clear, the president made it clear friday when he walked back over from the treasury department, if it happens and we have the votes this week, great. if it's next week or the week after. we want to make sure that we have the votes and headed in the right direction before putting an artificial deadline.
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>> the thinking next week is more likely than this week. >> shepard: sounds reasonable. there will be a briefing on north korea for the senate the day after tomorrow. what do we know? >> it's not the white house that initiated this. this was initiated by mitch mcconnell. they think it would be easier to have everybody over here and bring in the chair men of the joint chiefs of staff. >> shepard: thanks, john roberts. now back to keeping the government running. paul ryan made it perfectly clear, he doesn't want a repeat of the 2013 shut down. speaker ryan told house republicans that he hopes healthcare, talks at least, will
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continue and it's his top priority, the spending bill, to keep the government going. mike emanuel is on capitol hill. democrats say funding for the border wall is a nonstarter. >> that is correct. you're already starting to see a high stakes game of chicken with both sides trying to other if there would be a government shut down. top democrats are saying the white house is showing signs of desperation by including that border wall. >> we're right on the path to getting something done a good thing, that both parties could support and he throw action monkey wrench in. i understand. it's understandable. he has his first 100 days. healthcare has not worked out. he's trying to do something with taxes, something with healthcare. now the wall. that's not the way to govern. this wall is unthought out and doesn't work. >> that reference be senator schumer that the white house is making a push on government funding, healthcare reform and
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introducing tax reform this week, shep. >> shepard: and republicans and polling on the wall. it's not that high anymore. i wonder what republicans are say ing in the way of push back. >> some border states are not in favor of this. some republicans are saying it's time to make it happen. >> this president promised this, they voted for it in large numbers. it was one of the great strengths in his campaign. it was certainly one of the reasons that i believe he should be elected president and i supported him. so congress can find a host of ways to pay for this wall. >> most folks up here on capitol hill expect money to be included for border security. it's not clear that it will be for the wall. expect more negotiations and debates this week. shep? >> shepard: mike, thanks. there's some word that some republicans are telling the white house to back off your
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push for the border wall. i'll speak with a political recorder about why it could backfire on the republican party, especially if it shuts down this government. it's a huge issue in the days ahead. we'll have details straightaway from the fox news deck on this monday afternoon. d everything in our living room. we replaced it all without touching our savings. yeah, our insurance won't do that. no. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance
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effort to avoid a government shut down. as we reported earlier, president trump is insisting the legislation include money to bill a wall along the u.s.-mexico border. democrats are not on board and time is running out. get this. there's nine representatives and eight senators for the border states in their districts along where the wall would be in all those border states. nine and eight and not a single one of them according to the reporting of the "wall street journal" is for building that wall. let's bring in gabriel from politico. i don't know how you get there without them. >> yeah, that's right. it's not only them. there's other members of the republican party, some in leadership, some sort of talking about this privately saying they don't think right now is the time to be talking about the border wall. some say the wall itself is not the right way to go. others are saying this is too politically a fight, it's not the right time for the fight and
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in particular since the government might shut down saturday and that wouldn't send a good signal. >> the back story the people's position or something simpler? >> shepard: for a lot of folks, what they're saying is republicans will be blamed if the government shuts down and if we have a funding fight, the government will shut down. they say if we don't want the 20 2018 mid-terms to start off on the wrong foot, we should do this later. >> shepard: john roberts spoke briefly of a compromise saying we'll give you this part if you don't take the wall. what that look like? >> i don't think we know yet. more military funding. the white house has brought up bringing more funding for pieces of obamacare. democrats are basically saying, this is on you.
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you have to keep the government open. republicans are in the majority of the house and senate. so democrats are not willing to fight on this one because while they don't want the government to shut down, they're fine with republicans taking the blame. >> shepard: we know republicans, some of them, the border republicans are pushing back on the white house. that is that back and forth like between the senators and members of congress and the white house itself on that matter of funding the wall? >> well, it's uncomfortable obviously. very few of them are saying president trump, don't build that wall. but the ones that are from these states in particular, a lot of them think they don't want to deal with the political headaches of their own back home. they're trying to send the public signals to the white house. obviously what the white house is trying to do to get as much done as possible before the 100-day mark later this week. so these are not exactly public negotiations going on. >> shepard: sounds like you think something on healthcare is more likely than something on
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wall. >> it sounds like healthcare is something that they will be moving towards. i don't think we'll see a big ticket healthcare vote this week as you noted. republican leaders in the house have sort of said, we'll vote on this when we have the votes on this. it does seem like that is something they're more willing to talk about in a public way at least incrementally. they want to make it clear that they're talking about this and talking about a way to fix the system. >> shepard: thanks, gabriel. good to see you. >> you too. >> shepard: former president obama speaking publicly for the first time he mentioned office and he did not mention our current president once. he said no that he's no longer president, it's his term to help. >> the single most important thing i can do is to help in any way i can prepare the next
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generation of leadership to take up the baton and to take their own crack at changing the world. >> impressive young men and women on stage with him today. that's for sure. former president obama said our divided political system is preventing our young people from tackling climate change and violence on our streets. as we reported the entire united states senate is set to meet this week at the white house to talk north korea. very rare briefing that could show how seriously they're taking the tension with that country. up next, the latest threats on the north korean regime and the united states very harsh response. that's coming up from the fox news deck. you do all this research
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trump administration will host the entirety of the united states senate at the white house for a meeting on wednesday with top u.s. officials all about north korea. that is the word from sean spicer. during a meeting with ambassadors from the united nations today, the president said the status quo in north korea is unacceptable. >> the council must be prepared to impose additional and stronger sanctions on north korean nuclear and ballistic missile programs, this is a real threat to the world. whether we want to talk about it or not. north korea is a big world problem. it's a problem that we have to finally solve. people have put blind folds on for decades. >> shepard: this morning the united states ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley warned military action north korea. >> if you see him attack a military base, if you see some sort of intercontinental ballistic missile, we're going to do that. right now we're saying don't
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test, don't use nuclear missiles, don't do anymore actions. he's understanding that. >> pyongyang university of science and technology released this government statement saying the government there detained another u.s. citizen. a person named tony kim. kim was about to leave the country about teaching there for several weeks when officials detained him. ambassador haley said the country's dictator is trying to use kim as a bargaining chip for talks with the united states. north korea is holding three american citizens. the white house reported that president trump spoke with president xi jinping yesterday. it was reported that our president asked xi to just restrained in dealing with north korea. john bussey is here from the "wall street journal." when does this come together and mean? >> it's interesting.
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you feel this ratcheting up, inviting the 100 senators to the white house to get briefed on the situation in north korea. two phone calls with xi jinping with china the last two weeks. phone call with abe in japan. both gentlemen discussing north korea again. so you can -- the vinson aircraft carrier group going up to do drills around north korea. you can feel the message being send. what is a that? one, to north korea, restrain yourself on the nuclear testing front. also in part message to china that we're taking it more seriously and we are expecting at some point some meaningful intervention on the part of china. not just talk. signalling also to our allies abe in japan, nervous about the capability of north korea. the south koreans, very nervous about the capability as well. so all of that is happening. >> shepard: well, the chinese can do specific things
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immediately and change the court of human events but show no propensity to do so. >> that's right, this is something that administration after administration, bush and obama and now trump have tried to get the chinese to do. there's a very tight relationship saying this is an incredibly close relationship between the communist party of china and north korea. why? they're a buffer, north korea, is, with the west. lots of talk about eventual reunification. if that's something that china wants, a reunified westernized country on its border, u.s. troops in south korea, there would have to be fairly intense negotiations to extract the u.s. from this region for that to happen. so china looks at north korea and says this keeps the west off balance. at the same point as trump is trying to do, it becomes a liability for china if in fact trade relations with the united states are damaged as a result of china not really doing
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something about north korea. remember, they're the biggest trader. they buy north korean coal and buy food. parts of those missiles are coming from chinese companies. >> shepard: north korea has one cash crop. that's missiles and weapons. without chinese coal and food, north korea has nothing. without the risk of destabilization, it's very high. that is stabilization. nobody wants that either. >> you're very right to point out one of his exports is weapons. it's been a proliferator around the region of weaponry. there's concern that as pakistan proliferated, so too north korea will now with their nuclear capability. so how much is china going to cooperate here? would you get regime change? it's doubtful. would you get perhaps a more constrained north korea as a result of western pressure on china to finally do something?
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possibly. i think place we're at right now is that this notion of patience that we saw during the bush administration, during the obama administration, whether it was pressure applied in the hopes that there would be change in the direction of the north korean missile and nuclear program is now giving way to a more intervention instinct. will that lead to conflict? nobody wants that. that's what xi was nobody wants it. will it lead to more intervention on the part of china? we haven't seen it till now. >> shepard: the wheels are turning. the house intelligence committee of russian interference in the elections is back on track. but there's a new republican in charge of that committee since chairman nunes stepped aside.
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>> shepard: bottom of the hour, top of the news, a top intelligence committee is scheduling a hearing on russian interference in the u.s. presidential election. that's according to mike conway of texas. he's now leading the investigation. committee chairman devin nunes recused himself as the house ethics panel announced they're looking into allegations that he mishandled classified information. congressman nunes says the charges against him are entirely false and politically motivated. democrats have called for nunes to step down before that saying he was too close to the president to conduct an independent investigation. the house intelligence committee has invited james comey and admiral mike rogers to testify
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in a closed hearing a week from tomorrow. our chief intelligence correspondent, catherine herridge is in washington. this committee is trying to pick up where it left off. >> that's right, shep. the house side is very complicated. devin nunes, as you mentioned, has stepped aside because of an ethics complaint and over two weeks recess, this completer complaint was filed against two democrats by the conservative watch dog group judicial watch. they revealed or discussed classified information on capitol hill. the members denied the charges and to our knowledge this has not been picked up with the full ethics investigation. the two directors testified last month and testified for a follow up session that was cancelled after the house intelligence community chairman found new
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records against the masks of trump campaign associated and briefed the president before democrats. sources close to nunes told fox news that he will continue to investigation the unmasking of trump campaign associates, which is different from the russian probe. >> shepard: we're learning more about an anti trump document that came from britain. >> yes, it's under new and fresh scrutiny after the allegation was denied that he was a trump campaign's point of contact for russia. republicans are criticizing comey's reliance on the dossier. over the weekend, the fbi director was the subject of a very lengthy "new york times" piece that suggests he has thrust the bureau into politics because of the treatment of the
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clinton e-mail probe which he discussed publicly and the investigation into the ledged contact between trump and the russia campaign that he did not disclose until last month. at a recent d.c. event, director comey says the director does not care about politics. >> what makes it easy is, we're not on anybody's side ever. we're not considering whose ox will be gored by this action or that action. we just don't care. we can't care. we only ask, so what are the facts what is the law what is the right thing to do. >> you'll remember the final intelligence report. fox news was told that director comey was so wedded to the dossier that he wouldn't sign it. he threatened to dissent or withdraw his he commitment. >> shepard: catherine herridge, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> shepard: there's three investigations. there's the fbi investigation,
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it's criminal in nature. there's the house investigation and the u.s. senate investigation. it's been a flop in the roles in the house and the senate at least in the way they're taking things. kimberly atkins is with us, a columnist for t"the boston heral herald". looks like the senate has stalled. >> the last time we talked about this, the senate was taking control and taking the reins of this investigation as chairman nunes on the house side was stepping down and that sort of seemed at a standstill. now the senate intelligence committee has reportedly been understaffed. they only have a few part timers working on this probe. to date, no aides related to the trump transition team have been interviewed. it doesn't seem to be going in i where. meanwhile, on the house side, which had been mired in so much controversy, as you said, seems to be trying to move forward. they have rescheduled the
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hearings with the intelligence officials that had been cancelled. it's moving forward. seems mike conway and adam schiff are moving together in a bipartisan way. no movement there yesterday though. >> shepard: they're working on it in the fbi. what we're mostly learning, much of it is centered around carter page. >> yes, the former trump campaign aide that we have learned is the subject of a fisa warrant, an investigation that led to his potential contact with russian officials. he's denied all of that. that has really sort of refocused the attention on the ties and the efforts of the russians to at least try to infiltrate the trump camp. there's no evidence that the members of the trump campaign team were aiding them or colluding them. russians were using their contacts the best they could to try to make a difference. that's a big focus when we see
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the hearings resume. >> shepard: from the best of the reporting, and there's lots of it, the russians were trying to use carter page as an infiltrator? >> that is the claim. they had their eyes on him as a way to get into the campaign. sort of be in there. he's denied that he has given them any specific information. but that creates some smoke for these three probes that you talked about to really look into. we're getting this. it's interesting we're getting most of this information from news reports and not from the investigators themselves. perhaps a sign that people in the intelligence community sort of want to get this out and move forward and are unhappy with the pace that the probes are taking. >> kimberly atkins from the "boston globe." good to see you. >> good to see you, shep. >> shepard: and amazing thing
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has happened in france. there's not been a time that somebody from the center right, the center left has not been involved in the second round of the presidential election in france. it's never happened. it's happened now. a right wing candidate who has drawn comparisons to president trump has advanced to the final round of france's presidential election. less than an hour ago, marine le pen announced she's stepping down as she continues to seek the presidency. more on that in a minute. marine le pen made it past the first round of voting along with emanuel marcron. he's in his 30s. president trump has not fully endorsed le pen. he told the associated press that the terrorist attacks could
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help le pen in the election. she's proposed holding a referendum to leave the european union. the future is at stake and greg palkot has more. what do we know about le pen stepping down and what does it mean? >> it's an interesting one, shep. she made a statement in a context in an interview with french television. she said i'm only the candidate, i'm above partisan consideration saying she's stepping down for the moment as the head of the national fund party. there's not been a lot of reaction here. analysts think it's not a big deal. but underscores the baggage that the national front party still carries with people here in france. its anti-immigrant stance and anti-muslim stance having a lot of resonance with a lot of voters. it's now taken as in the context of trying to be not just above
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the frey but above a lot of the other publicity. this comes a couple hours after president marlon went on tv and told the people that voting for marine le pen is a risk, interjecting himself immediately into this whole political mix here. >> shepard: he endorsed the opponent, of course. le pen and her party shocking, predicted on some levels, but shocking to the system that she's in this position. i wonder what people on the streets are saying. >> it's a mix, shep. first of all, they're relieved they're through the 11 candidates that they had to choose from. now they're down to two. in paris, not a huge amount of support for le pen. i didn't get a lot of enthusiasm
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about marcron. take a listen to the mixed reaction we got from the folks in the street. take a listen. >> i'm happy for marcron. how about for le pen? >> no. >> we don't know if it will be good. >> it's trump versus hillary clinton. the same thing. >> you escape the words. >> shep, the run-off is in two weeks. a lot of fireworks here. >> no question. a lot of work to do in that period. thanks. in 1940, henry ford told "forbes" magazine a flying car is coming. 1940. fast forward 70 years and the concept has failed to take off. but now some companies are looking to shake things up with brand new designs. the flying car that is going on
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>> shepard: tired of traffic on the daily commute? just jump in the flying call and leave the congestion behind. dream away. now some companies report they're getting much closer. a slovakian company has released a flying car. it does 220 miles an hour in the air. if you want to put in a pre-order, it will setback you back more than a million bucks. really? about a dozen companies are said to be working on similar projects. projects for flying cars. we're seeing progress. trace gallagher has this from l.a. one of those companies is called kitty hawk after the site of america's first flight. >> it is, shep and it's backed by larry page. it's being called the flying car. it looks like the combination of
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a jet ski and a drone. it's built for one, weighs 220 pounds and takes off vertically like a drone and it's flown by using two joy stick-type controllers. the test pilots are only flying it over water, 15, 20 feet up. soon they hope to begintisting everywhere and the plan is to begin selling them by the end of the year. even letting people to put down a $100 deposit to reserve a vehicle. kitty hawks has not disclosed the final price. experts say they'll be spendy. >> shepard: that didn't look legal or air worthy. >> no, they're being tested under a special faa category like used for ultra light aircraft which doesn't require a pilot's license. but they're considering how
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kitty hawk could selling them when there's been no government approval. aviation experts point out that the flying cars would revamping the entire air traffic control system. the states have not dealt with self-driving cars, much less ones that fly. you can imagine, there's a bit of opposition from those that make the cars that stay on the ground. we should note finally that as cool as they look and they do look cool, they're battery powers. they're problematic because they can only go short distances if you're driving to work over a crowded area. >> shepard: trace gallagher in l.a. thank you. forget the glass ceiling for just a moment. an american woman has just shattered a record up in orbit. for that astronaut's effort, she got a congratulatory call from the united states where she may
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>> today people in israel pause to remember the millions of jews that died during the holocaust. they stopped what they were doing as sirens sounded across the country. they sounded for two minutes. we have images in hour slide show this afternoon. look at the highways here. you can see the traffic backed up in tel aviv. people got out of their vehicles to pay respects. surfers stopped when they were
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doing. it wasn't just israel, this is poland, the annual march of the living. they walked the two miles from the nazi death camps at auschwitz. this in the jewish cemetery in poland. you can see memorial stones by the graves. a jewish tradition to place a stone at a grave to show that someone visited. here in the united states, the president signed a proclamation. and confederate statues are being taken down in new orleans. before sunrise, they removed the first of four statues in the big easy. the monuments were statues of robert e. lee and jefferson davis. officials say they have gotten death threats over the decision to remove them.
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president trump congratulating peggy whitson for making history. she's spent more time in space than any other american. 334 -- 534 days. she and jack fisher explained how in order to get by, they have to do some unusual recycling up there in space. >> water is such a precious resource up here that we also are cleaning up our urine and making it drinkable. it's really not as bad as it sounds. >> that's good. i'm glad to hear that. better you than me. >> shepard: i'll say. president trump asked the astronauts to speed up their plans to get americans to mars so it could happen during his presidency. fisher said they don't plan on that happening until the 2030s. turns out screwing in a light bubble would have you believe more. a study found a huge number of
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feel changing a light bulb is over their heads. most of the bad puns come from there. lillian says so screwing in a light bulb what now? >> an insurance company in the u.k. asked 2,000 adults about basic tasks and if they knew how to do them. 79% said they felt comfortable screwing in a light bulb. that means one in five different know how to do it. similar numbers for boiling eggs. many could not. reading maps were hard. 60% of britts said they could read a map. their maps are more confusing there. >> shepard: thank you. we'll be right back.
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handwritten version for a few years but decided to print it. the boston newsletter published weekly until 1776 rolling off the presses 313 years ago today. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: a little french there. welcome, everybody. stocks surging on the french election that seem to have a centrist in the driver's seat for now. the markets hoping that that centrist, emanuel marcron will put to bed any threat that france will get out of the european union. i say that take this with a grain of salt. that was the same knee jerk mark react we had going to other way with brexit, the separate from britain from the e.u. the same reaction when had
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