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>> bret: wow. there you go. no online show tonight. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that is up for this "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid, "the first 100 days" with martha starts right now. >> and less than 100 days, i have signed 13 such congressional resolutions to cancel federal regulations and give power back to the people. i have also signed over a dozen executive actions that reverse federal intrusions and empower local communities. thomas jefferson put it best when he said i believe the state can best govern our own concern concerns. with this executive order and there are many actions we have taken and less than 100 days, we are providing our states and communities with control over the matters that are most important to them.
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>> martha: the president arguing that he has accomplished a lot so far. make no mistake, this week is a full-court press to drive the president's agenda. the biggest tax overhaul proposed in 30 years. health care repeal and replace that appears to be back from the dead. it is day 97. i am martha maccallum. good evening, everybody. with just three days to go before the first mile marker, the administration brought out the big guns on the issue that was number one last night with our audience in the town hall and ohio. they wanted tax cuts and economic growth. here is the president's top economic advisor, gary cohen come on whether he thinks the bill can pass. >> this is quite historically for us. this isn't going to be easy. doing big things for us never is. we will be attacked for the left and we will be attacked for the right. one thing is certain. i would never, ever bet against this president. he will get this done for the american people. >> martha: with one step
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forward there and also one step back today, another judicial decision that seeks to derail the president's move on sanctuary cities, as a federal judge slaps down president trump's order to withhold federal funding from the sanctuary cities. president trump making some stunning remarks about the courts. we will tell you what he said in just a moment. we'll be joined by constitutional law expert jonathan turley who says he thinks the judge in california in this case has jumped the gun. first, we start with trace gallagher in the west coast newsroom with the latest on the story tonight. >> president trump, who is clearly annoyed of being dealt another setback in the ninth circuit court said he is absolutely consider proposals to split up the ninth circuit. trump is referring to legislation repeatedly introduced by g.o.p. lawmakers that would carve out some states currently under the jurisdiction of the ninth circuit and put them in a new court. the president and many g.o.p. lawmakers believe the left-leaning ninth circuit is unfair to conservatives. the comments come one day after
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district judge william orrick, appointed by president obama, blocked the administration from taking away federal funding from sanctuary cities, saying the cities would face a "irreparable harm if the policy was put into place." in his ruling, judge orrick cited what he believes is a key contradiction saying, the administration has given a very narrow definition of a sanctuary city and yet, has vowed to widely and for such period of the judge even cited trump's campaign rhetoric when he promised to use federal funding as a weapon against jurisdictions that do not comply with his immigration policies. here is the san francisco city attorney who brought the lawsuit followed by the president. watch. >> this is why san francisco has to stand up on behalf of people everywhere. be they immigrants are native born. as americans, we all have a duty to confront injustice even when it emanates from the white hous white house. >> can you comment on the ninth circuit ruling? >> i'm never surprised by the
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ninth circuit. [laughter] as i said, we'll see them at the supreme court. >> chief of staff reince priebus called the judge's decision and overreach and also vowed to immediately appeal the decision before it gets to the supreme court, it would first go to the ninth circuit court of appeals, which is likely to still be intact. martha. >> martha: we will see. thank you. joining us now, constitutional law expert and george washington university law professor jonathan turley, who brought about the decision today. good to see you tonight. thanks for being here. i love your description of this judge as a hunter with buck fever who sees something rustling in the woods and fires his gun before anything has happened. >> is a curious decision. it's a preliminary injunction. i think it is more premature than preliminary. president trump has not designated a single sanctuary city. he has not denied a single dollar.
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that raises a real question as to whether this situation is truly right. president trump code and would wisely wait for congress to put conditions on the next rounf grants, which are just around the corner. i think congress could do that. i think that is where i disagree with the drudges analysis. i think that congress can condition some federal funds on their cooperation with immigration policies. there are some dicey questions there. if they want, for example, cities do hold people after they were entitled to be freed, that raises other constitutional questions. but i think the court is off base in terms of granting a preliminary injunction at this stage. >> martha: you just feel like they have jumped the gun, as we said, before the president has laid down any proposition here, any injunction, any action against any particular city or labeled anybody a sanctuary city. i want to put up some of the
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tweets that president trump put out. in the past, you have taken offense or been unhappy with some of what he has said about drudges and the circuit courts. he also spoke out about at this later in the day, jonathan, said that he would like to see the ninth circuit breaking up. he would like to do away with i it. can he? >> you can almost hear the justice department attorney popping tongs because they are not helpful for the case. they are also manifestly wrong. this is not judge a shopping. these judges are selected randomly, when you file, you get the initials of your judge when you have what is called a conformed copy. it is drawn randomly.
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more importantly, many of these sanctuary cities are in california. where else would they file? i don't think this is a good example of form shopping. this in paul's -- this impulse to strike back at this individual judge is not healthy. you can't be at war with every institution, the press, the courts. sometimes, cases are filed where the controversy is. there is a controversy here. he himself has criticized california cities for being sanctuary cities. i think he has a valid issue here. he is saying that we shouldn't give you federal grants if you are obstructing rather than supporting our policies. fine. but those cities are in the ninth circuit. so, they have a right to go to court about is where it will be heard. >> martha: jonathan, thank you. always great to hear from you. here now, dana loesch, host of "dana" on blaze tv. good to have you here tonight. julie, let me start with you. what he think about what jonathan turley had to say?
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>> i agree with jonathan turley. i am not a lawyer but it strikes me as anyone would know, the executive branch really -- the judicial branch, this judge made a decision that the judge and his legal opinion thought was the best decision that he could make. it is not up to the president to weigh into that other than we will take it to the supreme court which, of course, is his right. i'm sure calling it a ban is something that the justice department probably is popping tongs over. you remember sean spicer said this is not a ban. >> martha: it is interesting what jonathan turley said. he said, this is an idea that has come out of the white house and been put forth. but they have not labeled anybody specifically a sanctuary city yet. does it suggest that there is bias on the part of the judge, that he is already taking this action before there is anything specific to be reacting against? >> it does, martha, seem as
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though he got ahead of himself. julie and i are in the same boat. we both love the law. it is, as she was income a layman's terms. when i look injustice or it, he was involved in the planned parenthood case, as well. someone who was appointed by the former president, who wasn't just appointed by the former president, but he also bundled money for him, too. the reason i bring that up, the leeway, i seem to think he would give someone like a democrat if there was a democrat in the white house instead of a republican. he said specifically in this that he was looking at what trump had tweeted and thinks he had said and he was using that as part of his interpretation of this, which to me seems a little bit over the top. furthermore, he can say that this is ultimately something that the executive -- the white house can't weigh in here,
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a legal matter. at the same time, martha, even if this is just something, less than $100 million, and san francisco, one of the sanctuary cities, wouldn't be affected, still, congress controls how these grants will go out. trump could go back and say, i guess i was address to congress that they block federal funding for the cities in the future. >> martha: and california, and a junction that applies to the rest of the country. the second time the president has tried to do something that he sees as making places more safe and secure that has been overwritten by a federal judge in that part of the country. julie, this is what the president -- you can talk about things in the campaign but this is one of the reasons i got elected. >> it may be but the law is the law. a judge in the republican part of the party or republican judge, for that matter, can make a determination that the rest of us have us to live with. to say that a judge federally
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makes a decision that the rest of us have to live with, that is our system of government. the president can complain about that. it is what we have all lived under. >> martha: we can complain about it. but we can't do anything about it. [laughter] >> we all have the right to complain, that is true. >> martha: no complaints with you two. good to see you tonight. rare joint statement from state defense and the director of national intelligence says a very serious statement today. "north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons is an urgent national security threat to our country." general jack keane here with the back story tonight. and for the first time since congressman devin nunes stepped down from the russia probe, the man now tasked with picking up that investigation, representative trey gowdy, joins us exclusively tonight. plus, the united nations says it's dangerous to health care may the united states in
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♪ >> you have all heard my speeches. i never said repeal it and replace it within 64 days. we have a long time. but i want to have a great health care bill and plan and we will. it will happen. and it won't be in the very distant future. >> martha: that was just weeks ago after that first failed to pass on health care. president trump promised there would be a wooden rack eventually on health care reform. tonight, there are brand-new reports of a vote to do that, possibly as early as friday, which would put them on day 99. the urgency behind this rework g.o.p. plan nearing how americans are feeling. take a look at the brand-new fox news poll numbers. which is a higher priority? fixing the health care system gets 71%, reforming the tax system gets 26%.
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a speaker ryan confirming earlier that he and the more conservative wings of the party are nearing a consensus. >> we want to give the states the ability to customize the reforms to maximize the ability to lower premiums and protect people's pre-existing conditions. that is a what the heart of what the amendment does. >> martha: joining me now, chairman of the house freedom caucus, congressman mark meadows. in a big turn of events, his group endorsing this latest dob plan today, after refusing to go along with a plan that they saw last month. good evening. very good to have you. >> it is great to be with you martha, thanks so much. >> what is so different about this one? we are member of the comical moment when president trump said i am coming after you, mark. tough words for the house freedom caucus after this went down. what is it about this version if you are okay with? >> the fundamental question for
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all americans as well the bill that we passed lower their premiums. that is with the freedom caucus has been standing for from day one. we believe the original bill didn't go far enough. this new waiver allows for not only the states to be able to tailor made it come as the speaker was income a to wave out of the obamacare mandates. it was also a freedom caucus amendment that put this high risk pool that was going to drive down premiums. some of the modeling we have done actually means that we'll see as much is a 38% reduction in health care premiums. that's really what made the difference for me and many of my freedom caucus members today. >> martha: no doubt, the president would love to see this happen on friday. is that a realistic hope? >> i think it is realistic but it's an expectation that i don't want to put out there. we have so many times that we put a date, that supposedly corresponds with something. then, the american people are disappointed. we would rather get it right and
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make sure it happens. whether it is this friday or next week or the week after that, i can tell you, real reform is coming. it's a matter of days, not months. so, i'm very optimistic we'll get it done in the right fashion. >> martha: what happened last time was that the things that made the moderates happy made you folks unhappy. now that you are happy, are the moderates unhappy again? some of the states will have the ability to charge people with pre-existing conditions for further health care and also to opt out of some of the requirements that were put in place for these plans under obamacare. have you gotten moderates on board? >> obviously, they are whipping their group. i am responsible for the freedom caucus. i think that is the beauty of the macarthur amendment. but it does, it gives governors, individual states, the rights to do that. you talk about pre-existing conditions, that coupled with high risk pool we are putting in place, actually makes sure those pre-existing conditions are taken care of in a way that it's
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more affordable. it is not just that, martha. it is the other aspect. we have done some modeling that would suggest that some of the premiums for 50-year-olds are now going to be able to buy premiums cheaper than they can for a 30-year-old on the affordable care act. that is significant savings and that is none too soon on getting there. it is. when i got to go by quickly, as congress going same deal that the american people have a nice? >> of course. a 100% guaranteeing it. i want to look for anything that gives me a better deal than the american people. that is wrong and we want to do that. >> martha: word of the chances of a deal on friday? >> 50-50 at this point. may be leaning more toward the 60-40 in favor. >> martha: okay. congressman, thank you very much. good to see you. as congress grapples with repealing obamacare, democrats apparently not alone in taking dramatic measures to protect the former president's signature law. now, the united nations -- the
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united nations -- is weighing in on obamacare. and they say it may be breaking international law if it is changed. here with here with more, ari f, served as white house press secretary under president bush. marie harf is the former state department spokesperson and a fox news contributor. welcome to you both. this is a very stunning letter from the u.n. to think about the fact that saudi arabia sits on the women's commission and that iran takes her turn on the human rights commission, but they are horrified and they think we may be breaching people's human rights here, ari, if this health care law leaves some people without coverage. >> the united nations wants to lose more support of the american people even faster, this is the way to do it. if they can impinge of the national sovereignty of the american people. one important caveat, martha, this was signed by one official on the human rights commission. it's not clear who he is speaking for, whether it is for himself or clear that he can't speak for the entire
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united nations. it is insidious nonetheless. it makes my head explode. the idea that they considered supervision of america and our congress and our democracy, this is why globalism is losing ground to nationalism. this is why the e.u. is losing support among european nations. it is this idea they are superior and they can pass judgment on things that are the better of the people because they spring from democracy and natural sovereignty. the u.n. has played no role. we won you much of the person for this letter out. i just want to put because i think this is fascinating, this is the title of the person who put this letter out. let's put it on the screen, so everyone knows, you know what your title is that your job. his name is mr. dash's business title, special repertoire on the right of everyone to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of health. marie? [laughter] you can't make it up. >> i actually thought it was a
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joke when i saw that title this morning. i am not kidding. you will be surprised or not surprised to hear that i generally agree with ari. of all the reasons that i think the republican proposal will be bad for the american people, the u.n. being upset with it is not anywhere on my list. i think it was sort of silly and bizarre. i really did honestly think it was a fake story this morning. i know it's not. we have real questions are to grapple with in this country as we headed toward another vote of health care. they should not be part of it. i completely agree here. >> earlier in your talking points, you brought up the question i asked mark matos. we are satisfied with his answer that members of congress will indeed have the same plan for this new law? >> absolutely. i was very glad you asked the question, very glad he answered it at an incredibly strong manner. i didn't think those stories saying members of congress might
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exempt themselves were a really big problem. substantively and politically. i was curious that he was optimistic about getting a vote on friday. they still have to present the government from shutting down before they go home this weekend. i am not sure they'll get a vote on that quickly. it does seem like there is momentum. we do need to see the details of what is in this new compromise. i don't think we have seen enough of that and i i don't tk independent experts have been able to get their hands into the substance. >> martha: if we can put of the president's approval numbers, we have brand-new fox poll tonight. i want to get to ari's thought on this. basically, he was at 48% in february. now, at 45%. it looks like in march a a hit perhaps because of the failure to pass health care. seems also that fixing this problem is important to the american people, 71% say they want to see it fixed. do you think they can do it on friday? are you concerned about a government shutdown? do you think these will be accomplishments that people will be happy with that could help
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those numbers rise? >> i am no longer concerned about a government shutdown. i think that is been taken care of. in terms of this bill, you have to recognize, the republican is like a seesaw. you have moderates on the one side and served as on the other. the two have to find balance. it is a question here about whether this agreement that was announced by the conservatives is going to tip the seesaw and through the moderates off of it. i would much prefer to this be a joint announcement between the conservatives and the moderates. that would give me more encouragement that it has the votes to pass. clearly, what is the point of having republicans in the house of representatives that they can i night among themselves and understand the seriousness with which the american people want e especially, once obamacare repealed and replaced? this is a central sick get it done so we know they could do their job. if they tease us and try to do it again, -- >> martha: those approval numbers will go down further. thank you so much. good to see you both tonight. >> thanks, martha.
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>> martha: just ahead, a remarkable meeting today. all 100 senators got on buses and they went to the white house to hear the unvarnished truth about how bad the north korean situation really is. general jack keane joined us in a moment. and for the first time since congressman avenue no steps down from the house probe from the roughage and interference in the u.s. presidential election, one of those on the case, congressman trey gowdy, joins us exclusively next. exclusively next. ♪ for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections,
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the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it ♪ >> martha: brigadoon developments now in the investigation into russia's modeling in the presidential election. remember the house probe was thrown into disarray weeks ago when its chair, devin nunes, decided he had to step aside amid a controversy involving the trump of surveillance claims. today, that intel committee got back together. they met this morning. they were overseen by a group including congressman trey gowdy, who speaks exclusively with us in moments. all of this amid fresh allegations that president trump's former national security advisor, michael flynn, may have broken the law when he failed to disclose payments that he received from the russian and
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the turkish government. >> personally, i see no information or no data to support the notion that general flynn complied with the law. >> i agree with the chairman. he was supposed to reported he didn't. there is no evidence of it. >> martha: here now in a "the first 100 days" exclusive, congressman trey gowdy, one of those overseeing the house probe. good evening. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> martha: you regrouped to get this thing back in motion. what are your next steps? >> start interviewing witnesses and accessing documents. that is the lifeblood of any investigation. we didn't need to do it as a bn way. we need access to the documents. >> martha: are you getting what you need on the white house? >> we are in some aspects. in some aspects, i wouldn't say the white house, the administration, as a whole, we
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are going to need more documents. i think they are aware of that. mike pompeo is not only a friend but a former colleague. he has pledged his support, i'm sure admiral rogers at the nsa well, as well. to the extent there is an ongoing criminal investigation, it makes it tougher for doj to share everything. it's a work in progress. we are not there yet. but i am optimistic that they understand we can do our jobs without the documents. >> martha: when all this came to a screeching halt a little while back, it was about to happen, sally yates and james clapper were going to testify and john brennan about what they understood about michael flynn and the larger picture here. are you going to speak to them? >> we are going to speak to them, whether it will be a public setting or a private setting, i think that will be determined by chairman conaway and ranking member adam schiff. i have been pretty vocal. we had one public hearing in which the but this is almost 100 times that they could not answer the question.
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most investigations i'm familiar with in the previous life were done confidentially. then, you share the results of the end. but the process is confidential. that is above my pay grade to make that call. chairman conaway tells me that i will be ready. >> martha: there was some discussion that sally yates had presented some of this evidence with regards to michael flynn to the president, that she may have made someone in the white house aware of it. is that a question you need answered? if it's not answered in a public forum, do you think the american people will feel like they have heard the whole story? >> at some point, the american people learn everything we have learned. it is just a question of win. having grown up in a courtroom, the judge tells the jury, you can decide the facts until the last witness has testified. she is one of the first witnesses. i would ask everyone to withhold judgment until every wetness that has relevant information has talked. i knew former general yates before she was the acting
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attorney general. i have a wonderful relationship with her. she was a very good prosecutor. to the extent she has information that committee would be interested in, i'm sure she will be forthcoming. >> martha: what about on the senate side? there has been speculation that they are slow walking this. i think some people look at it and it reminds them of what i saw on the other side of the fence with the hillary clinton investigation, that people aren't being forthcoming forth. what is your take on that? >> i don't believe that. i think chairman berger -- i don't know the raking member, but i know him pretty well. investigations take time. the cataldo prosecution, you'll remember, the one suspect charged has not even been brought to trial yet. i don't hear folks complaining about that. that has been years ago. investigations take time. you only have one opportunity to do it the right way. so, as long as you are making incremental progress and you are getting access to new facts, the
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amount of time something takes as dictated by how much information you are uncovering. it could just as easily be a positive sign that it's taking them longer than they had a imagined. they may be uncovering more information. i don't judge the efficacy of an investigation based on the length of time. >> martha: trey gowdy, congressman, thank you very much. >> yes, ma'am. you, too. >> martha: way back in the 1980s, the last time we saw a real tax reform. since then, the code has become more complicated, the government has taken more out of your paycheck perhaps. is there a revolutionary change coming to your taxes? who would actually benefit from it? also, tonight, 100 senators met at the white house behind closed doors in a secured room to hear the reality about north korea's nuclear weapons program and the reportedly unstable man who controls it. general jack keane joins us nex next. >> it was encouraging to see virtually every senator there,
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>> i believe that we have to look at north korea as if kim jong-un will do what he say says. right now, there is probably a mismatch between kj use rhetoric and his capabilities. >> martha: new details on how serious this administration takes the threat of a nuclear north korea. the white house convened a rather rare meeting today, in terms of where rich was. president trump's team took the unusual step of inviting and briefing the full senate onto the grounds of the white house. they were in an auditorium at the old executive office building. they were basically briefed on the strategy against kim jong-un and what he presents to the world. ted cruz, the senator, described
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that meeting afterwards. >> it was encouraging to see virtually every senator there, both democrats and republicans. it was a long and detailed briefing. all of the steps we are taking to try to prevent that very dangerous situation from getting even worse. >> martha: afterwards, a jolting statement came from state, defense, and dna, saying, north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons is as urgent national security threat for our country. joining us now on how urgent, general jack keane, chairman of the institute for the study of war. general, always good to have you with us. why do you think the white house decided to do it this way today? >> i understand president trump was briefed and in the basement of the visitor center is where these special rooms are, that he said, let's do it over here. it never has been done. i think the president is pretty different. [laughs] he does a lot of things that have never been done.
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this is one of them. i think he also wanted to be there. usually, 100 senators don't show up to these briefings no matter how important they are. >> martha: because he do things differently, i think maybe he likes the visual, which he focuses on quite a bit, of all of the senators getting on buses and they have all gone over to the white house, and no doubt, that crosses the radar of perhaps the person they are talking about. right? >> i think it is good objects, playing into china, north korea, playing in south korea and japan by the allies are concerned about what is taking place. >> martha: the main question here is how far along are they in a nuclear missile -- a nuclear warhead that could be put on an icbm, that could threaten the united states of america? >> publicly, we don't know the answer to that. i doubt if they told the senator is what we do know in terms of the specifics of that. they probably gave them a range of time, a year, two years,
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maybe longer. that sort of advanced technology to be able to miniaturize a nuclear peace, ballistic missile, not a problem, they already have 1,000 missiles. they export missiles on a regular basis to iran, pakistan. they are good at missile development, despite the failures. the challenge at intercontinental missiles, there is a reentry problem we have to have. >> martha: our cyber ability, there has been a lot of speculation that perhaps that is what has made some of their recent missile tests unsuccessful, we have somehow been able to intervene in them. does that work to slow them down? to keep them spinning their wheels? >> absolutely. it slows them down and hurts our confidence. what has god also concerned about kim jong-un, his grandfather and father brought a nuclear weapons. that guaranteed the present preservation of the regime. he pursued the development of
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ballistic missiles, to deliver that weapon, not to south korea, but to japan, two bases in the united states throughout the region and possibly the united states. then, he accelerated this program. he is a myriad of weapons. he has developed submarine launched ballistic missiles. that's a dangerous capability all on its own because we have detected. they are submarines aren't as quiet, we can probably find them. he has developed land-based medium range ballistic missiles. he has put this thing on fast-forward. that has got our concern, because of the speed at which he is moving to do this. you have to take him seriously. >> martha: i always go back to what we learned about the meeting between president obama and president trump, that president obama said this is your number one concern. north korea is your number one concern. what do you think may have been shared? obviously, it was classified, but this man, kim jong-un, why does he hold so much mystique
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and -- why is everyone so disturbed about the kind of person that he is? >> i think because of the inflammatory nature of his rhetoric and talking about throwing missiles and nuclear weapons at innocent people. >> martha: they have big broadway extravaganzas, blowing up things in america. >> exactly. that has got our concern. he enjoys our reaction to this, to be frank about it. i don't think he is necessarily necessarily -- there's something fundamentally wrong with him, because he does have a strategy. his strategy, one weird thing, he is preserving his regime, but he wants considerably more concessions from the united states and south korea. that is what his objective is. the way he is going about it certainly is alarming. it's got our attention, as it should be. you mentioned president obama. i found it stunning that he raised it as the number one concern. yet, for eight years, he did so little about it.
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strategic patients, as the administration has rightfully admitted, is an absolute failure. it is do nothing. so, this administration has taken kim jong-un to task, as a rightfully showed. this is fundamentally about protecting u.s. interests, our allies in the region, and the american people. >> martha: general jack keane, thank you, sir. i was good to see you. >> good talking to you. >> martha: coming up next, a blueprint was unveiled by the white house today, as they take the first steps of the most ambitious overhaul of the tax code that we have seen and three and a half decades. will it make you happier next tax season? will have the details. charles hurt and mo elleithee coming up next. ♪ unlike pills that don't treat congestion, clarispray covers 100 percent of your nasal allergy symptoms. clarispray. from the makers of claritin.
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>> martha: breaking tonight, the trump administration unveiling their most anticipated tax reform plan. it includes a radical overhaul. live on capitol hill tonight with the deep details. hi, peter. >> the trump administration tax plan is to let people keep more of their money by lowering rates and raising the amount they can't deduct. for example, the standard deduction for an individual's income would nearly double. about $6300 a year presently. it could be 12,000 a year. married couples look to be a big
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drug -- would he see a big jump, too. most individual deductions would go away with this plan, except for charitable, market interest, and retirement deductions for the tax bracket would get simpler. right now, there are seven brackets. if president trump gets his way, they would be three. the top rate, 35%. rental rates, 25%. low rate, 10%. the corporate tax would plummet to 15% from 35 right now. >> and 2017, we are still stuck with a 1988 corporate tax. that is why we are now the least competitive country in the developed world when it comes to corporate tax. >> that is why administration officials say they are shrugging off concerns on the hill about adding money to the deficit because officials believe that more people have jobs and more people will be paying taxes on companies that don't have to pay sis of rates will grow,
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ultimately paying more taxes. >> what this is about is creating jobs and creating economic growth. that is much massive tax cuts and massive tax reform, simplifying the system, that is what we are going to do. >> it is tough to tell how much support there is for the tax reform plan because there is no bill rates and for members to look at. as we saw a few weeks ago with the failed obamacare repeal and replace attempt, president trump cannot rely on republicans only all the time. martha. >> martha: peter, thank you. here now, charles hurt, political columnist and mo elleithee, executive director of the politics and public service at georgetown university. welcome, gentlemen. i guess peter's last point is probably the most important. is this something, a plan, let me start with you, charles, that could pass? >> peter is right.
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he can't automatically rely on republicans on capitol hill for anything. i do think he can make a very good argument that this is something he campaigned on, something that won him a lot of kudos on the campaign trail, something that he won on. the idea of lowering taxes and to simplifying the tax code, that is exactly what this does, and i realize that democrats are going to complain about it being a tax giveaway to corporations and things like that, but there is a lot of arguments to be made that makes the point that a translate into jobs and jobs -- that's another thing that donald trump ran on. a rising tide lifts all. if they can get this through, and we can improve the economy, it will put republicans in very good situation in two and four years from now. >> martha: mo, you look at the
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deductions increasing by a dramatic amount in terms of what you can take off your taxable income right off the bat. that is got to make people happy across the board. you did hear criticisms today that this is swayed toward people who have the most benefits are the people with the most money. do you agree? >> i don't know because we haven't seen a plan. >> martha: we have seen the tax bracket. we have seen the deductions. the death taxes going away. the charitable tax will stay. >> i think there are a couple of challenges here. yes, a lot of democrats will rightfully point to the fact that this does disproportionately help the people with more money. they will keep raising questions about the president's tax returns and see how much he benefits. that is one side. the other side, you are beginning to hear grumbling from republicans on the hill who are saying, look, and principal, we agree with the brackets, but how are you going to pay for this? if you don't have some sort of
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off site, you are going to balloon the deficit and you also promised not to do that. we haven't heard very much from the white house on that point today. >> martha: they addressed it to some extent, charles. because you will lose a lot of deductions, that will balance it. also, growth, economic growth. >> absolutely. i love it whenever i hear democrats talk about worrying about the deficit because that is not something they worry about. mo is right. that's a great opportunity. you put these tax cuts through and then, you start cutting. there's plenty to cut around here. >> martha: thank you, guys. the quote of the night coming up right after this. ♪ comfortable you are in it. so find a venus smooth that contours to curves, flexes for comfort, and has a disposable made for you.
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>> martha: as the trump administration rolls out of most anticipated tax plan, the quote of the night is from albert einstein, who said this to his tax preparer friend. "the hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax. the friend countered and who is
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easier than understanding the theory of relativity, to whichd. good night, everybody. we'll see you tomorrow at 7:00. tucker carlson is next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." and coulter has canceled a planned speech of the university of california berkeley tomorrow, saying physical threats from the left made going there simply too dangerous. she released a statement saying this. it's a sad day for free speech. everyone who should believe in free speech fought against it or ran away. after releasing that statement, she told sean hannity this. >> i think what is going on with berkeley, when you have -- it shows how radical the universities are generally. what you are talking about, they want to destroy and squelch conservative speech. but there is a separate issue

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