unafraid. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> how is north korea weighing? >> at ways but we have to prepare for the worst. we have to be prepared to do what we have to do. we can't allow this to go on for you to speak >> nobody is safe. who is safe? the guy has nuclear weapons. 28,000 troops on the line. they are right there. nobody is safe. we are probably not safe over here. he gets a long range missiles, we are not safe either. >> martha: the president gets blowback after saying he would consider talking to kim jong-un. "at any time, and any location," said kim jong-un. the white house's movement tells a story.

another missile launch swiftly followed by a surprise visit to north korea by mike pompeo. the latest is prepared to show support while the neighbor to the north's fires a barrage of missiles. the president has worked his side of the pressure here at home. good evening, everybody. it is may 1st, 2017, and this is "the story" ." ♪ >> martha: this high intensity does not mark -- this pharmacye talking about, -- today, 1 of 3 americans who was imprisoned in north korea's parents spoke out for the first time. >> nothing he may or may not have done in north korea rises to this level of punishment. is cindy and i have made the decision that this is less about otto now than it is about the

bigger picture, the tensions between north korea and the united states. >> martha: right he is. these three individuals are being held, no doubt their fate is on the president's mind as he weighs all of this. the world watches for the next move. i am joined by republican congressman and i'm adam kinzi. this is a complex web that has been woven here, adam. where are we in it right now? >> it is new for people. if you think about it for the last eight years, we didn't hear president obama talked much about this, despite when he met with president trump as the transition was happening, saying this was going to be his biggest challenge. now, what you are seeing is an aggressive administration. you are seeing the dance between military posturing and a credible literary threat in order to use the diplomatic instrument of power to hopefully get to a peaceful solution. it is confusing for some people that on the one hand, the president is saying that we are ready to strike if we need to. on the other hand, saying he is willing to me to pray that how

this does pharmacy works. it is trying to work pressure to bring the dictator to the table. this is a frankly pretty positive sign. the sound but you played, these hostages are being used as bargaining chips. >> what happens in terms of congress? tonight, they were supposed to be a vote.y was that delayed? would happen tomorrow? >> i think it is delayed as a calendar issue. we'll do it tomorrow. this will give us much more flexibility. the sanctions, there's a lot of loopholes in the current sanctions. this will strengthen that. it will make it more powerful from the u.s. level. second tillerson, when he briefed us, made it clear. we will work to get the allies and adversaries on this bandwagon. it will be a very long process but this is how you do diplomacy. from a position of strength, not for my position of, we will show up and beg you to play the game with us because it won't. speak of the president said some things that some people thought

were weird. he said he would be honored to meet him. he called them a pretty smart cookie. sounded even slightly sympathetic, i guess, are empathetic about a 27-year-old who takes over the leadership of his country. what you make about those comments? >> what you are seeing is a president showing the stick and the carrot. aircraft carriers, 25,000 troops, 40,000 in japan. we are ready to take action. the carrot is that i am wailing with the time is right, not nowt the dictator to try to get some kind of solution. i wish he wouldn't have used the term honor. the broader point is when the time is right for talks, we'll do it by that time is not now when we have to see willingness from north korea to be able to give up their nuclear weapons or we will continue down this path. >> martha: congressman, thank you. good to see you. here now cover the former deputy manager of the trump campaign. and marie harf.

we talked about those comments. may be the congressman's right, that word wasn't the word he would be used, but how was that red by the north koreans? >> it remains to be seen how it is read by the north koreans. what i am concerned about is that given some of the language president trump used, i am not sure that was a strategic policy position that had been talked out among his advisors, among the experts in his administration who know north korea. there is so much rhetoric coming out of president trump that i don't know how much it is being seen by the north koreans. i do know that some of the rhetoric is being seen pretty negatively by the south koreans, who in the last week, have been told they have to pay for the missile defense, have been threatened with renegotiating free trade agreements that we have in place. i have heard from some republicans on the hill that they want president trump to stop that kind of language, too. we really need to reassure south korea right now because this is such a complicated, intense situation. >> martha: they have been

honoring a lot of guests from the united states. the top tier of this administration has personally visited them over the past couple of months, david. >> they have. the era of strategic patience is over, as the president has said. doing something new, the status quo has been broken for a long time. as it relates to north korea. if you look at what president obama did or didn't do in dealing with this incredible danger, this didn't just happen and the last 100 days that president trump has been there. his policy of peace through strength, of showing the carrot and the stick, as congressman was just talking about, he was right. the psychological gamesmanship that goes along with the diplomacy that goes along with the military maneuvering is all part of what we need to do to get this under control. >> martha: you know donald trump well, you work on my campaign closely with him. when you see all this, when you see the ships moving closer to north korea, when you hear him

say things like, "i would be honored to meet with him," or at the right time or place, we should sit down and talk, what is happening? >> i think he is speaking from the heart. he is also getting brief. marie points out, he is getting the daily intelligence brief now. he has the best of the best on this issue in north korea that is going on. he is listening to them and making his own decisions. nobody else makes decisions but president trump. >> martha: is he trying to play kim jong-un? he knows he is hearing these words? is he trying to make it seem -- when he talked about putin on the campaign trail, he sent a similar sounding things. is that the dynamic care? >> he is doing that. he is trying to work with the president of china, to try to brings the influence from the china side of the equation. i think that is one of the things that president trump is doing, unlike the prior administrations, he is actively engaged. that can only be good for the united states. we have to solve this problem,

not kick the can down the road. >> martha: marie, i thought it was interesting today, watching the other networks talk about these comments are president trump made it come about being willing to talk to kim jong-un. so many people were outraged about the prior administration. but you look back at what president obama said when he was question, would you sit down with leaders from places like iran, north korea? here is what he said. the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration, is ridiculous. is that criticism unfair? >> i was glad to see that president trump seemed to give diplomacy some credibility here by saying he was willing to sit down with the leader of north korea under the right conditions. i actually thought that was a good sign, maybe showed we weren't quite as close to military conflict that some people have thought. i just want to make sure that there are strategy underpinning. or everything donald trump says publicly, he does thing to reassure our allies.

at the end of the day, if he can get trying to put more pressure on north korea, i would fully support that. the chinese haven't been putting the kind of pressure they actually could if they wanted to. i would support that. the fact that there is some room for diplomacy, from a former state department officer, is not a bad thing. i want to make sure it plays out in the right way. >> martha: marie, thank you. david, thank you. coming up next, after a string of recent mergers, local police in new york are now asking for state's help to fight against the violent ms-13 ms-1. mark fuhrman and eric fester here on the next discussion about how effective a task force is. democrats did a study of this and now, they know, why they lost. mo elleithee is here, karl rove is here to break it down. today also marks an anniversary that none of us will ever forget. if the death of usama bin laden.

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>> ms-13's motto is to kill and control. our motto is just as for victor's and consequences for criminals. >> martha: attorney general jeff sessions delivering that speech on long island for several bodies of victims were found last month. new york state police are forming a task force to combat the gangs. some 200 miles to the south, you have baltimore's mayor, now asking for help from the fbi to help as their murder rate source. violent crime up 23% this year. here now with a look at how federal and state law enforcement are being asked to step in to stanley's violent crime waves, trace gallagher joins us now from the west coast newsroom. >> not only does ms-13 specialize in murder, their tactics are so gruesome investigators can easily

identify their signature kills, including a string of recent homicides on long island that involved multiple teenage boys and girls. ms-13 originated in el salvador but became prominent in los angeles and is now overrunning parts of new york, where police that a recent uptick in violence is related to the arrival of dozens of ms-13 members from central america. the gang has even drawn the notice of president trump. watch. >> a very respected general recently told me that i must 13 are the equivalent in their meanness to al qaeda. >> which is why mexico's drug cartel recruits ms-13 members as enforcers. didn't you unit well combat i must 13 by trying to stop the gang from preying on young immigrants who come here illegally and alone. police acknowledge it will be a long-term war with a revolving door. in march, and i must 13 member

who had been deported four times was arrested for sexually assaulting a 2-year-old girl. in baltimore for the first time in two decades, the city reported 100 murders before the end of april. right now, the number stands at 108. december is traditionally the most violent season. baltimore mayor catherine pugh is now asking for more help fro. this week in baltimore, the feds will begin using a mobile national integrated ballistic information network, a fancy name for a band that collects firearm-related evidence at crime scenes and uses it to trace guns and tracked down keller's. critics are unsure if more fbi and atf agents will help stop the bloodshed in baltimore, but the mayor says that she does not have time to waste. martha. >> martha: here with more, eric guster, attorney and political commentator. and joining us from phone, mark fuhrman. welcome, gentlemen.

eric, when you hear about these task force, more fbi, for the ms-13 gain, does that sound like a good way to go here? >> it sounds like a good way to go. it is very important for the government to utilize its resources to keep all of us safe, whether it is ms-13, the regular gang members, as we know traditionally, skinheads are white supremacist, whoever is doing violent things against people are very important for ts resources to stop them. to ms-13 another gangs prey upon young people. they prey upon vulnerabilities. they recruit these people to do horrible, horrible things because they know that these young people don't have any way to go. it is very important for the government to stop it in its tracks. >> martha: let me ask you, eric. are you in favor of more law enforcement, police presence on the street in baltimore and chicago? to take care of murders there, as well? >> there has to be something

done. i believe community policing is one of the most important thing that police officers can do in dealing with god murders as well as other violent murders. policing is very important and that they must have trust of the community, trust of the people who can tell them who is doing things, and then, they can prevent these things from happening. a police presence can help. but we need to have infiltration into the minds and the mindset of these people who live in these various communities. >> martha: let's play this sound bite from the president talking about this issue in harrisburg over the weekend. let's watch. >> we'll build a wall, folks. don't even worry about it. if the democrats knew what the hell they were doing, they'd approve it so easy because we want to stop crime in our country. obviously, they don't mind illegals coming in. they don't mind drugs pouring in. they don't find -- excuse me -- ms-13 coming in. we are getting them all out of here. >> martha: mark fuhrman, has this been a political problem,

as donald trump suggests? >> i think it has become a political problem because it was really ignored for about a decade. this type of law enforcement became reactive and it gave gangs like ms-13 an opportunity to get a foothold and to actually and actually have really a kind of a crime syndicate which is what they have established. >> martha: are you saying, we talk so much about crime in inner cities, then, you have this ms-13 gang that has grown astronomically. 42 states, 30,000 of them. it seems like there are different prescriptions for different kinds of crime and the cities. it feels like law enforcement and many of our cities, mark, has sort of felt the need to step back, given what we have watched happen in this country over the last couple of years. are you suggesting that because of that, it has created a vacuum for groups like ms-13?

>> absolutely. when you have managers or police chiefs or mayors, when you have them give directives to not be proactive, in other words, don't go out and interact with the criminal element before they commit a crime, in other words, you be reactive, wait until they commit a crime and hope he can arrest them for that crime, you actually gave gangs the upper hand. when you have this task force that new york and baltimore is trying to establish, the federal task force portion of this is great. it's a great opportunity to get manpower, legal surveillance, equipment, aircraft, money, but you need to the officer at the lowest level, the detectives, and all the people that work in these communities to actually get to them the information that they need to. >> martha: thank you. we have to leave it there. eric guster and mark fuhrman,

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♪ >> martha: just six months after hillary clinton was forced to acknowledge the pain of the loss, she and her team continued to struggle to explain why they lost to donald trump, who obviously ended up winning the election. democrats now trying to figure out what happened. they are doing an examination. one of the first autopsies is now in. the results are a bit troubling, perhaps for the party, because they point to a message that failed to attract people who were democratic voters for years and years. working-class white voters. especially the ones who voted for barack obama back in 2012. they are calling them obama-trump voters ms exercise. ed henry take this inside this report from washington. >> democrats can't make up their minds about why they lost. first, the russians today. then, this book titled "shattered" told us how the

records and never had a clear message. today, democrats have a new excuse. clinton actually did have a clear message but progressives from the so-called obama coalition rejected it. these obama voters at flipping the donald trump because he was better on the economy than clinton weighed down by those wall street speeches by "the washington post" reporting data from new focus groups conducted by the democratic super pac priorities usa show that in michigan and wisconsin, "a shockingly large percentage of these obama-trump voters a side effect democrats economic policies will favor the wealthy." twice the percentage that said the same about trump. yet, adding to the confusion for democrats, form up vice president joe biden was in new hampshire over the weekend, but he insisted he is not a candidate in 2020 and he offered to yet another clinton's gender. >> this last election, hillary was at such a disadvantage, a double standard because she was a woman. beyond that, trump was pretty

smart. he made it all personal. >> all of this follows a political report suggesting house democrats were trying to downplay an autopsy report of their own. this report came up with another excuse, that the party has to do a better job of raising money and pouring that money into the right places. of course, there could be a far simpler explanation. president trump got more votes in battlegrounds like michigan and wisconsin. plus, pennsylvania and florida. martha for you >> martha: 's things, ed. for what this means in the 2018 midterms and beyond, karl rove served with president george w. bush and mo elleithee is the executive director of georgetown's institute for politics. he had to mo, go to you. i found this very interesting. when you got 42% of people that voted for president obama then, crossed over and voted for not president trump, saying that they think the democrats policies favored the wealthy, that turns on its head the notion that we have had for

decades, that republicans are the party of the rich people. >> yeah, martha, i'm a democrat. i was the spokesman for the democratic national committee. i work for hillary clinton in 2008. my party has a problem right now. i am glad that this long-overdue self reflection is happening. too many people in my party want to look at james comey and the russians and base drop off and say that is by hillary clinton lost. in a race this close -- >> martha: and because she was a woman? i mean, i haven't seen any data that supports that notion. no exit polls, nothing, that supports that notion. >> in a race this close, none of that is incorrect. but it glasses over a fundamental problem. that is the lack of a values- values-driven economic message that actually connects with these people who flipped from

barack obama to donald trump. those people aren't necessarily rejecting democratic policies, but they certainly didn't hear a message that connected it to their real lives. >> martha: they are talking about the fact that they felt that the economy wasn't getting any better. that ally for them wasn't progressing and the american right, where your children are supposed to do better than you did. >> it is broader than 2016. it was a forecast by a very smart guy on the left who several years ago, a decade ago, wrote the emerging democratic majority. minorities, women, particularly african-american and latinos, and well educated, would be able to give the democrats back to the white house, were treated in 2008. a couple of years ago, he wrote "the emerging republican advantage. its argument was, for whatever reason, during the obama years, blue-collar whites had begun to

feel dissatisfied with the democratic party. this is more than just one election between two different people. it is a secular repulsion, if you will, of a large number of working-class people, blue-collar people, who said the democratic party no longer stands for the version that i see of a fair economy, in which if you work hard, you can get rewarded. instead, it is a system that gives people free things, a system that gives people benefits that they don't deserve. i work hard and i don't get ahead. >> martha: the forgotten man, the forgotten women theory that donald trump talk a lot about. this also from the communities of color and families also thought that they had been abandoned to some extent by their party. as the writer of this research said, democrats clearly have a lot of work to do, a lot of their core constituency groups. >> without question, the democratic party has a lot of work to do. here is the upside for the democratic party. the same data, the same

researcher showed that these voters were rejecting the republican party, congressional republicans message by the same margin, virtually identically. they didn't believe the republican party, the republicans in congress, would help them anymore. a lot of those obama-trump voters in the survey were still really skittish about president trump. they were still nervous that he was going to be cutting a lot of the things that they are plying on. the party has a huge opportunity for can get his act together. >> martha: very true. republicans need to -- if they want to keep the votes, they need to get the legislation through. thank you so much, karl. mo, i was great to see you. still ahead, of the world's most influential business and political leaders, they get together in one place this time of year and they grayed president trump's first 100 days. bill bennett was there and he heard what they were saying. he will give us some truth serum when he comes back in just a

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the national woman's march or january. sarsour has been invited to speak at commencement for city university of new york school of public health. an invitation that has inferior rated jewish organizations who believe new york governor andrew cuomo should intervene because sarsour's anti-semitic, pointing to statements where she called it benjamin netanyahu a waste of a human being, endorsed during rocks at israeli cars and supports sharia law. tweeting, "sharia law is reasonable and was rated to the details, it makes a lot of sense. people just don't know the basics." anti-islam activist says she knows all about the basics of sharia law. she was born muslim, subjected to female genital mutilation, and escaped an arranged marriag marriage. linda sarsour once tweeted that she doesn't deserve to be a woman and should have her female genitalia taken away. here is her response to martha maccallum back in

february. watch. >> she is a defender of sharia law. the principle of sharia law, there is no principle that demeans, degrades, and dehumanizes women more than the principle of sharia law. >> democratic new york state lawmaker is among those calling on city university of new york to rescind linda sarsour's invitation to speak. the university responded saying, "taking action because critics objected to the content of speech would conflict with the first amendment. and the principles of academic freedom." the school also points out that former president obama named sarsour a "champion of change." the commencement speech is june 1st. martha. >> martha: thank you. here is more on this, president of the zionist organization of america and his group is calling for ms. sarsour to be removed. a new york city council member and a personal and professional friend of mace sarsour's.

welcome to both of you. it's great to have you here. let me start with you. why should she be removed? we talk a lot about free speech at, charles murray, and culture. why shouldn't be able to say what she wants to say? >> there is no constitutional first amendment right, obligation, for city college to invite anyone. they can write who they want way they don't have an obligation to invite her. they don't have an obligation to keep her. they can dismiss having her. this is city college's decision. one of the main reasons we should not have her speak is the fact that she has praised the anti-file, the terror war that was killed and seven. the fact tha she has praised killer of jews, she claimed that this was an honor and privilege being with this jews killer. she is someone who supports

radical islamic terrorism as well as being anti-semitic, she said that israel, the jews should not have a state of their own. there could be 57 islamist state. she is a racist, anti-semite, supporter of radical islamic terrorism. by having her, it means dreams those terrible traits. >> martha: you are friends with linda sarsour. why do you think that those things don't matter for this graduate audience? >> i would say those things are the furthest from the truth of linda sarsour. one of the cochairs of the women's march. even if some of them were jewish or not, you broke 's book free . what happens, they have confused people taking a political stance against the state and calling anti-semitism against a religion. i haven't heard linda say anything against judaism as a religion. i have heard people talk and

make political comments. we have a right and we can discuss whether those political comments were right or not. but you say they were anti-semitic is a different story. we have found a way to confuse the two. if you disagree with what they say politically, you call them anti-semitic. that is a whole new ball of wax. >> martha: i am curious what you think about the uncultured issue or charles murray at middlebury. would you support their rights to be able to speak at their colleges? >> of course. i am a graduate, very proud to be one. i want there to be access to all types of beliefs and conversation. thankfully, linda is nothing what mr. klein said she is. >> martha: she called benjamin netanyahu a waste of a human being. >> is that a judaism or a political figure? >> martha: she said nothing is creepier than zionism. >> she retweeted a poem. no one has listened to what the problem was that for that was the title of the pole. again, many people take things out of context.

the alt-right does that very well. we have to push back -- >> martha: why are you talking about the alt-right? >> i am saying on the right, and all pride, they take it out of context. what i would say also, it is interesting who we are calling in anti-semite and who we don't. mr. climb asked the adl to withdraw that from mr. steve bannon, who many people believe -- >> that is relevant for you to be one final thought, we have to go. >> she is even said that black slavery is nothing compared to islamophobia. she has made negative statements about african-americans by delegitimizing black slavery. >> martha: she's a muslim woman. >> martha: have to leave it there. thank you very much. get to have both of you with us tonight. still ahead and have a great story segments, six years since the night usama bin laden has been killed. we will speak directly with a man who fired those fatal shots, one former navy seal robert o'neal joins us here. plus, the event that brings

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♪ >> martha: the most influential business and political leaders are in los angeles, they are chatting about the future of this country, serving up their report card and the president's first 100 days. billionaire business leaders including alphabet chair eric schmidt, jpmorgan chase's epo meet i meant, as well as treasury secretary steve mnuchin, all talking president trump's impact on america's bottom line. what are they saying in there? bill bennett, former education secretary spoke today at that conference. he joins us live with what he heard. it's good to have you with us tonight. looking back at what they discussed last year, they all apparently agreed that hillary clinton was going to win and that brexit would fail. what are they saying this year? >> you can be smart about some things but not about other things. people can be really smart on some categories and to stupid on

other stuff. they got brexit wrong and they got the election wrong. pretty surprised by the trump election. but today was an evaluation of the 100 days. one of the evaluators, there was a panel of other people. the people who are here, extremely influential, powerful, wealthy. they tend to be when it comes to politics conflict averse, most of them. they don't want trouble. they are here to make friends and connections and to make money. that is what this is about for the most part. i would say that criticism, they felt that it when it comes to foreign policy, the president had too much unpredictability for our allies. it wasn't clear which way he was going to go. i defended him on grounds that he is not -- he didn't write a book about this stuff. he does things on impulse sometimes. but his instincts are good. that unpredictability can be a good thing. well, they said, unpredictability to your allies.

sometimes, it is all right to keep your allies off balance, too. he got good rates domestically, martha. people said that he has been good to the business community, almost unanimity, i would say, moderate, left, right, about business community, that he was encouraging business, reaching out to business community, reaching out to unions and had a genuine commitment to improve the economy. on that he got good grades. >> martha: in terms of europe and the future of global economies in this environment, what did they have to say about that? >> they have their plans, they have their ideas about it. these are smart people who know about the economy. it's interesting, the network around trump is not the usual network or guys that come to a conference like this. it would have been jeb bush, jeb bush was here. a whole lot of people. hillary, my goodness, i whole lot of people. when i talk about unpredictability to our allies

or enemies, they are also saying unprotect ability to us. they don't know what he is going to do. >> martha: steve mnuchin is up there -- there's a little delay. i apologize for jumping in. steve mnuchin was a hollywood guy. gary cohen is someone that they know because he was the top guy at goldman sachs. are those people providing a level of reassurance to this crowd? or not? >> i think their presence is because they know steve mnuchin. but they wanted more details than he was ready to give them. the fact that he was here is good. i said over and over again, you got to be reassured by this team. this is a great team. one of the guys my panel said it is macaulay culkin, they are all home alone. >> martha: [laughs] we got to go. >> anyway, pretty good reviews. >> martha: good to see you. we'll get cut off. thank you, bil. coming up, we'll take a look back at that night six years ago

when usama bin laden was killed during a late-night rate in pakistan. rob o'neill was there on the stairs with the gun. he is next.

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i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we're the williams family, and we're usaa members for life. >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed usama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. a terrorist who is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children. >> martha: six years ago tonight, president obama deliver that message to america after some of our bravest heroes under the cover of night put their own lives on the line for the security of this great nation. usama bin laden was killed at his compound in pakistan at that night, americans took to the streets to express their pride. >> [chanting "usa." >> martha: tonight, we hear directly from the man who fired those fatal shots into usama bin laden on may 1st, 2011. robert o'neill is the author of

the new book "the operator," firing the shot that killed usama bin laden in my years as a seal team warrior and a former navy seal, also. captain richard phillips. rob is a hero. i was good to see you. thank you for being here tonight in our first night of "the story." thanks for having me and congratulations on the show. >> martha: thanks so much. i've often thought so much about your description of walking up the stairs. when i think back on 9/11 it i think about all of the people that we all lost on that day and i think about president bush standing on the rubble and to saying the people who knocked these buildings down are going to hear from all of us soon. that was on your shoulders, rob, when you and your team on top that staircase in the compound. it did you feel that, did you think about all of that in the moment or just your training? >> it started to sink in about 80 minutes into the 90 minute flight because for some reason,

i remembered president bush's words in 9/11 when he said freedom itself was attacked by a free nomadic faceless coward and freedom will be defended. i was fortunate to be with the best people in the world on the best pilots in the world. it was something we all did. we knew the chances of coming back -- not coming back -- were really, really high. we should get out because of the people that died in the towers, and pennsylvania and the pentagon. it was because we knew we might die, we could behave like complete professionals. i was in a position where i was actually behind the guys, no fear at all, doing their jobs as we had done over 400, i wasn't the only guy there were that many missions. they did a great job. i saw stuff that happened on the stairs coming up when we ran into bin laden and the female analyst i found him said you will run into him he'll be armed. once you get him, that's the last line of defense. i watched ama do

amazing stuff. we finally went up the stairs. i was behind one of the bravest man i know. we went up the stairs, we were down to two of us. he was the first guy through the curtain. he actually jumped on people he knew were wearing suicide vests. i watched a man jump on a grenade it didn't go osprey deeded it for the guy behind him. he didn't know it was me, it was one of our guys. it was incredible. i turned the corner and i saw usama bin laden, i recognized him as a threat. it was definitely him. i took a shot that would take out a suicide bomber. i explained another stories in "the operator," it is very, very fast, very loud, it's permanent. when you deal with them, you have to shoot him the way you shot him, and under a second. the team got me there, the pilots got me there, the tactics got me there. i did what any special operator would have done. i happened to be there. >> martha: lastly, about a half minute left, how do you live with the legacy of what you did and to move on with the rest

of your life? >> i take great pride in the fact that i can help 9/11 families of the healing process. because of the platforms i have been given, i help special operator's transition to the private sector. it is monday at a time. right now, it's a story i know. it couldn't be prouder of the guys. >> martha: we are proud of you and you are a hero and we all remember that night six years ago. i know you remember it with every ounce of your being. rob, thank you so much. it's always a pleasure to see you. come see us. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: our thanks to him. as we move from the first 100 days to "the story," this quote of the night fits the bill perfectly. it was sent to us by kathleen smith of new jersey and a side by then candidate donald they trump during the campaign. "anyone who thinks my story is anywhere near over is sadly mistaken." the first hundred days are behind us, clearly, "the story"

goes on. tonight and every night, we hope to see you back to us tomorrow night at 7:00. tell it to mike send us a tweet. -- send us a tweet. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it was a testy weekend between the president and the press who cover him. those of you with better things to do may not have seen it by saturday was the night of the white house correspondents dinner, the party were washington's finest dressed up and pretend it is the oscars here in d.c. the party was a little different this year, not only to the media's preferred candidate failed to win last year's presidential election, a fact that was so crushing for money in the press there's some literally cried on camera, but the election's actual winner did not bother to show up, even though president trump was in there, he did not ignore it. watch this. >>