go to facebook.com/seanhannity, @seanhannity on twitter. let us know what you think. a special thank you to all of our friends in the media attuning intimate community for the first time. all of the life you've heard about me or not true. anyway, thanks for being with us. that's we have this evening but we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it was a testy weekend between the president and the press who cover him. those of you with better things to do may not have seen it but saturday was the night of the white house correspondents dinner, the party wheree washington's finest dress up and pretend it is the oscars here in d.c. the party was a little different this year, not only did the i media's preferred candidate fail to win last year's presidential election, a fact that was so crushing for many in the press that some literally cried on camera, but the election's actual winner did non bother to show up, even though president trump wasn't there, he did not ignore it. watch this. >> media outlets like cnner and msnbc are fake news.

fake news. and they are sitting and they are wishing in washington. they are watching right now. they are watching. and they would love to be with us right here tonight. but they are trapped at the dinner, which will be very, very boring. but next year, maybe we all make it more exciting for them in washington. we will show up. we have a good chance of showing up here again next year, too. >> tucker: will he make that dinner great again? meanwhile, at the dinner itself, white house correspondents association president jeff mason used his speech to complain about the president's treatmente of the press. watch. >> tonight looks a littlepl different. but the values that underpin this dinner have not changed.

in fact, i think they have been reinforced. d we are here to celebrate good journalism. we are here to celebrate the press, not the presidency. and i am happy to report, for anyone who is interested, that this dinner is sold out. our job to report on facts and to hold leaders accountable, that is who we are. we are not fake news. we are not failing news organizations. and we are not the enemy of the american people. >> tucker: that was jeff mason. we lured him to our studios tonight. he joins us live. good to see you.u. i agreed with your line that the point of the press, the reason for being, is to hold the powerful accountable. i would disagree that they do that consistently. but the dinner on saturday night, which i did not attend but watched a tape off, was

basically an extended middle finger to the president, an expression of dislike. the press shouldn't like or dislike politicians. >> i totally disagree with you. >> tucker: were you there? >> you just played my clip. >> tucker: you are sober and watching? >> i was there participating, what you didn't do was play the clip in which i said access under the trump administration has been good. it has. i would disagree with the way you introduced this by saying we complained about the trump administration. what we did was we said this is what has gone well and what has gone well is we have had good access. that is important. >> tucker: not just good access, but overwhelming, maybe too much access. >> beyond talking what access, we also talked about the first amendment. the white house correspondents association stands up for the first amendment. it is a clear undermining of those rights when you hear some of the rhetoric that president trump said. >> tucker: really? the first amendment is being challenged and ignored on college campuses across the country.es

papers can't print what they want. speakers are shouted down. i haven't heard the white house press association say anything about that. i haven't seen that journalists who make their living under the protections of the first amendment say anything about the actual threats to the first amendment that are unfolding on campus. why is that? >> sean: i haven't seen journalists saying anything about the threats to the first amendment. why isfo that? >> i can't speak for all journalists. >> tucker: you kind of can. you are the head of the white house correspondents association. >> i can speak for the white house correspondents association. >> tucker: are you troubled by that? >> absolutely. >> tucker: the speakers, thee tone in the room, i watched the whole thing, again, i was not there. i was not in town.ch but basically, it was "president trump doesn't like us and we don't like him back." >> that is just not true. >> tucker: i have been going to these things for 25 years. >> i wish you would have come to this. >> tucker: i have never seen a lamer speaker or one who washi more openly partisan than the kid you hired from "the daily show" to come. a not only was he not funny --

>> he did a great job. >> tucker: you really thought that was great? >> i think he did a really great job. if you look at the broad picture of that dinner beyond just having a comedian, which we traditionally have, you had bob woodward, carl bernstein, a video, h the scholarship winners, the award winners showing what the white house correspondents association is and about the importance of good journalism. >> tucker: how did you feel --ss >> did you listen to bob woodward? >> tucker: i thought the whole evening was arranged around a response to a guy that wasn't there. >> the whole evening was arranged around theve first amendment -- talking about the importance of what we do and not the president. >> tucker: i look at the numbers from the public who believe that the press isn't straight and i think it is a real threat to our business and a real threat to everything that we represent and do in the media, if people don't believe us.

one of the reasons they don't believe us is because of the way the last election was covered,pl which was overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate over another. that is not surprising given that there is no political diversity in the press corps. politico did a study on this. how many registered republicanss in the white house press corps? zero. that's a huge problem, don't you think? >> i'm a registered independent. i think it is important to be independent neutral when you are covering and neutral politics in the white house. as a reporter whenn you are covering politics and the white house. >> tucker: i agree with you. do you think that the people covering the white house are objective? >> i do. >> tucker: do you read their twitter feeds? >> i can't speak for every member of the association. i think it is very important to >> tucker: let's be real. >> let me answer the question. i think it is very important to be neutral. i think it is important to report the facts, it is important to report robustly what the president is doing. i think you should do that regardless of whether the president is a republican or a democrat. >> tucker: i agree with that vehemently. let's drop the pretense. here is the pretense.

the pretense of objectivity or -- the press in washington hates donald trump. now, he baits them. it's a two-way deal. he doesn't like them and he goads them. but they rise to the baitl. every time. and in so doing, they reveal what they really think politically and that undermines their credibility. you have to see this because we are marinating in it. do you not acknowledge that is happening? >> i would acknowledge it is important when such reporters, be they correspondents on television or print reporters of "the new york times" or reuters or any other news organization, if they make a mistake, they should correct it. i think it is important. i think having bias is not acceptable.rr i think it's important, however, also to know when a consumer of news, whether you are looking at a program that is biased or is not. there are avenues, as you well know, at places like fox, at places like other networks, if you watch tv, you will get a certain angle, you get a certain opinion. know what you are watching, know what you are reading,

the correspondents need to stay in their lanes. >> tucker: i do an opinion show. i've never been shy about my opinions. >> do you think the people that watch you know it's an opinion show? i suspect some people would think it's a straight news show. >> tucker: i don't know why they would think that. i never say that. in contrast to the people standing in the briefing room, who are telling us on camera, i am just here to report the facts. then you read their twittera, feed, and it says, "i hate trump." fascist takeover of the country. they are out in the open liberal. >> do you have a specific example? >> tucker: we have done like 15 shows on this. i know a lot of these people. they have always kind of been liberal. but it's totally open. "the new york times" correspondents, for example, we had the ombudsman for "the new york times," read all these tweets from these people, her correspondents, she couldn't defend them. i am just saying, is that of the association, don't you feel the

credibility of the reporters is undermined when they wave their opinions around in public? >> i think it is important to report the facts of the news and to stay neutral. >> tucker: you would encouragehe your members not to reveal their political biases in public? >> it's not the correspondents' association's job to tell her -- tell our members how to do their jobs. it's not. we stand up for the values of truth, the values of reporting the facts and values of the first amendment, which is to have access to the president, to be able to do our jobs and that is why we advocate for it. >> tucker: the idea that your readers or viewers believe you is central not just to your business model --ke if you had a white house presstr corps that was 100% middle aged white men, there would be aou full-blown outcry about the lack of diversity. i bet you 100 bucks, doesn't look at america. if you have not a single registered republican, in a country in which the congress, the majority of governorships,ot and the white house, held by republicans, it doesn't likeic -- doesn't look like america at

all. yet, i don't think you are doing anything about it, are you? >> the white house correspondents organization has no impact over who our members hire. i can't tell fox, which is a member of the white house correspondents association, you need to send this person or that person -- >> tucker: i'm not asking you to -- >> you are saying you wouldn't do anything. >> tucker: you would say this isn't right. do you think it's okay that there are zero registered republicans in the white house press corps according to politico? >> i think what is important ist that we have a press corps made up of journalists who report the truth and who robustly report on the president of united states. >> tucker: diversity doesn't matter? >> of course diversity matters. >> tucker: but not political diversity? >> diversity is important to me. it is important to me in the role that i play. >> tucker: [laughs] that doesn't sound important at all. to you. we are almost out of time. is political diversity important? >> is diversity important? >> tucker: political diversity. >> is it my job to talk about what the journalists in the

white house press corps do, yes. they report the news regardless of what political party controls the white house. >> tucker: i wish i believe that. i don't. jeff, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: time now for "news abuse," we highlight the excesses of of the american media. we tried to do that frequently. president trump sat down with eric bolling of fox and said that despite his rhetoric on saturday, he doesn't actually hate the press, except sometimes he does. watch.p ri >> not all of the media. i will tell you, that is unfair the way they cover. they say that the media, i am against the media. i am not against the media. i am against the fake media. if you look at cnn, the way they cover me, no matter what you do, it is negative, hits, hits. so, i love the media. i think the media is great. if i do something bad, treat me badly. but they don't tell it like it is. >> tucker: a media reporter for "the hill."

for "the hill." he was there on saturday at the correspondents dinner and he joins us. what do you think? >> what did i think of the white house correspondents dinner? >> tucker: yeah. >> first, i would like to comment on jeff mason's interview. he spoke there that night. i am utterly curious andt confused here. he admitted to you that under the trump administration,us tucker, that there has never been better access. all i know is when i watch the daily press briefings, sean spicer takes more questions than josh earnest ever did, there are more reporters because of skype and other press passess have been given out to other different kinds of reporters than ever before. i know that president trump gava nine major interviews last week, including outlets like "the washington post," cbs news, fox news, associated press, reuters, "wall street journal." then i hear him on saturday night to say there are threats to press freedoms here in united states. we must remain vigilant, the world is watching. i got a first amendment pin when i walked into the dinner. wait. i don't get it. on one hand, the trump p administration is totally about access, and on the other hand,

there are press freedoms being threatened. how does that square, tucker? >> tucker: i think the reference is changing of libel laws. you think that is going to happen? >> those comments were made by reince priebus on sunday. jeff mason made his comments on saturday. do i think they will be changed? i don't know. i don't know. i can't answer that question. it's hard, it's very hard if you are a public figure, to sue an outlet if they report negative news about you that is completely false. you have to show damages. you have to show that there was actual damages that occurred and you hardly ever see anybody win outside of hulk hogan, who sued "gawker" out of insistence. -- out of existence. otherwise, you don't see it happen very often. >> tucker: i wasn't there. i was on the other side of the continent. i usually go. but watching the tape of it, as i did today, it seemed from beginning to end, hostile to the president. let me be totally clear. i think reporters' job is to hold the powerful to account, and apply a lot of scrutiny to people in power, but this seemed

personal. did it feel thats way? >> absolutely, it seemed personal. no question about it.elue there is a vitriol toward donald trump, tucker, that wee have never seen with any other president. i base that on numbers. media research center. i get they are conservatives but they did a study that showed 89. of stories are negative toward donald trump. okay. let's go to the swedes. they have a company called media tenor research firm. 97 out of 100 stories by the "cbs evening news" and the nbc nightly news were negative toward donald trump and his first month. i get at that 65-35, it will skew negative. but 97-3, that tells me that there is probably an agenda there. by the way, a threat to the first amendment doesn't happen when a president is mean to the press, when he is nasty to them. that is him exercising his first amendment rights. you could say it is beneath the presidency. but we are confusing trump being mean to the press withth first amendment beingng suppressed. the first amendment, tucker, was under threat under the obama administration. they spied on james rosen. not only that, at this network,

james rosen. they designated him as a flight. risk so they wouldn't have to tell them about their surveillance. they secretly seized associated press phone records. they rejected a record number of foia request, freedom of information requests. those are threats to the first amendment. jeff mason should have been speaking out about that at other white house correspondents dinners. parties should have beent canceled, boycotts should have happened under the obama administration. actions, obama, words, trump.ed that is a difference here. >> tucker: we actually have jeff mason still in our studio. jeff, would you like to respond to any of the things that joe just said? >> the first thing i would respond to, joe, sort of like at the top clip of the show, you cherry picked my words and you guys are critical of how reporters report. you are leaving out a good chunk of what i said. i talked about access. >> i said that. i said you said there was good access. >> what you did not say, when i talked about the first amendment, the first amendment being under

threat, i talked about the rhetoric that has come -- >> did you ever make that comment under the obama administration that the first amendment was under threat, jeff? >> i'm the president of the white house correspondents association now. >> tucker: let me ask you guys really quick -- >> did you ever ask about that? >> tucker: do you think if tomorrow, the graduating class of byu, brigham young university, came to washington and got jobs in the white house press corps, 80% of the reporters working in the briefing room were graduates of byu, do you, jeff first, do you think the coverage would change in anyway? >> i have no idea how the coverage would change. >> tucker: of course you do. [laughs] of course it would change. >> i think it is important for journalists who come to be part of the white house press corps have the objective of reporting the truth. period. >> tucker: do you think that if people that came from a different, diverse background were brought here to washington:

not like everyone else? would it affect the coverage? >> the problem is, tucker, i don't think they would be hired. [laughter] they wouldn't get the chance to do it in the first place. >> tucker: gentlemen, thank you both. coming up, today is may day, the great state for labor protests around the world. instead of marching for workers, today, activists demanded open borders. we'll talk to a protest organizer about what that means exactly.is stay tuned. that's why there's biotene. and biotene also comes in a handy spray. so you can moisturize your mouth anytime, anywhere. biotene, for people who suffer from dry mouth symptoms. find fast relief behind the counter allergies with nasal congestion? with claritin-d. [ upbeat music ] strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best oral decongestant. live claritin clear, with claritin-d.

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>> tucker: international may day protests got violent in paris but the french weren't the only ones taking to the streets. across the united states, protesters marched against immigration laws. in the bay area, marchers demanded open borders, shoutingg "no ban, sanctuary for all." steven choi, executive director of the coalition joins us now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you having me. >> tucker: i am 47. i have watched a lot of may day protests. imagine my surprise watching an international workers day protest that was designed over 100 years ago to highlight the concerns of workers, wages, arguing on behalf of policies that would lower wages. i thought, boy, global capitalism is pretty tricky. it got you guys to advocate on behalf of the chamber of commerce.

how did they do that? >> tucker, it had nothing to do with that. >> tucker: really? >> yeah. i was with 500,000 people in h foley square and we were there to make a statement about the shared values that we have as a country. that is that immigrants are pars of the solution. immigrants have been making america great for centuries now. immigrants are workers, they are business owners, they are employers, they are neighbors,at families, and friends. we wanted to join with hundreds of thousands of people all across this country in peaceful protest to make that statement that we will rise up and that we will fight back. >> tucker: okay. i kind of agree with what you said. i am for immigrants and they are all those things. they are great. but they are also one of the reasons that the wages for american working class families have stayed stagnant or declined because when you have an overabundance of something, in this case labor, its value falls. there is no controversy about that.e you are advocating for that. you are advocating for lower wages for workers. i just don't know why.ar

>> that is not what i am arguing for. in fact, we said today that it's important to pay fair wages for everybody. here is the fact. the facts are that immigrants contribute so much to the american economy. here in new york, the state comptroller's estimate they add $230 billion in economic value. they pay $10 billion in taxes here in new york city. new york city happens to be one of the biggest cities and the immigrant capital of the world. we know that immigrants add tremendous value as workers but also as employees and small businesses. >> tucker: for sure. i want you to track with me, steve. these are average workingnd people. let's say i work for 12 bucks an hour and someone comes up to work for seven. do my wages go up or do they go up? they go down and that happens across the country. there is no debate about it. a lot of studies show it. the chamber of commerce and they big employers are for it.. you are for it, too? i'm confused. are they paying you to be for it? why would you be for it? it doesn't help working people. >> they certainly aren't paying me for it. >> tucker: are you sure?

>> i'm very sure about it.t. here's what i would say, tucker> the fact is, it's not that simple. we live in a global economy. we don't live in a simple equation where one person's wages go up and the others gomp down. it's not a zero-sum game. when you look at the impact that immigrants have, it is tremendous. this is something that people see not only here new york city, but all across new york state, as well. s in buffalo, rochester, even in places like utica.ci >> tucker: those are all places that are deeply in trouble, as you know, the middle class is dying. the middle class is dying in new york city as you may know. i think you follow this since you are on tv arguing on behalf of it. c let me ask you some questions. we have about 1.1 million people come here illegally every year. -- legally every year. what is the optimal number, how many want to let in the workers that you represent? >> i'm not an expert in the number of specific immigrants coming in. here's what i will tell you. these cities that you just

mentioned, not only those cities, but buffalo, albany, rochester, though cities are int dire economic straits not because of immigrants, but immigrants are part of the way forward. that has been proven time and time again. immigrants add value. they stabilize neighborhoods, they pay taxes, they are great workers and business workers. we should figure out how to geth more immigrants. >> tucker: you don't know how many. you are making the case but you haven't actually thought through how many is a good numberr because you are not going to get into the economics. you are arguing the economics. let me ask you one more simple question. how is it, if i work in a depressed postindustrial town, in say the service industry, for a bunch of people come in who are willing to work for less than i am used to working for, why is that good for me? >> it's good because immigrants will come in, we have actually seen this upstate. immigrants will come in, they will help to stabilize neighborhoods, they were, they patronize local businesses, and they spend their money, as well. it is absolutely unquestionable.

>> tucker: hold on. let me ask you a simple question. why haven't unemployment rates gone down in those places? pick a town. how about lewiston, maine. a ton of somalis. d they are immigrants. employment rates have not gone down. unemployment has gone up. why is that? >> immigrants are part of the solution, but they are not the solution in and of itself. a place like new york city, when you look at the economy, over the past 25 years, the economy has gone up at the same time the immigrant rate has gone up. >> tucker: no, actually, the financial services industry floats all of new york city, as you know. it has nothing to do with immigration.rv okay. i just wish the left were more serious about economics. h they used to be. i don't know what happened. steve, help me. think about it. >> we can talk about economics any time. >> tucker: coming up next, at w least one member of congress has moved on from wanting an investigation into president trump's ties to putin

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>> tucker: that has been months since any significant info >> tucker: it has been months since any significant information has come out regarding russian involvement,

the last election. somehow, political rhetoric keeps getting hotter anyway. last week, democratic congresswoman maxine waters of los angeles speculated that congressman jason chaffetz isco retiring because he fears exposure as a russian agent. this past weekend, she went further than that, believe it or not.nt she said it is already time to talk about impeachment for president trump. watch. >> this russia connection is a serious issue. i have been talking about it for a long time. each day, we learn more and more about it. "the guardian" article brings us even closer to the facts. l something took place, meetings have taken place, conversations have taken place. i have always said that i believe that there was collusion. p if we determine the facts, if s the dots are connected, that there has been collusion, then i really do think that this president could be impeached. >> tucker: we have asked congressman waters many times to come on the show, begged her staff and every time she has declined. we are still hoping. instead, we turned to a former dnc senior advisor.

he joins us tonight in the studio. great to see you. >> great to see you too, tucker. >> tucker: my question of you, for those of you who are really on the wavelength, really understand the russia conspiracy, why impeachment? why not life imprisonment, the death penalty? it seems weak sauce.ra >> well, let's be clear. not a lot of us are talking about impeachment.uc the i word we are talking about is investigation. we need an independent investigation that can get to the bottom of this because the facts that we know right now are very damning and very scary and we need to get to the bottom of it. >> tucker: wait, you are not telling me that you won't defend the esteemed maxine waters of los angeles? by the way, how long before she calls for a life in prison? >> first off, congresswoman waters is well-equipped to defend herself. >> tucker: really? i always see other democrats defend her. why not now? >> i am a big fan of hers. the "i" word we should be

talking about it is investigation and independent commissions that can get to the bottom of this potential -- >> tucker: there is an fbi investigation already going on. unless you think the fbi -- do you think the fbi has been penetrated by russian intelligence? >> i think we should treat this scandal like we would other scandals. there are multiple layers of investigation. we need investigations, we need independent commissions to get to the bottom of this. >> tucker: i am confused. if the fbi has not, as you alleged, been penetrated by vladimir putin's secret service, they are not a tool of the kremlin, too, that is an open question to you. >> wait. i am sorry. what is an open question for me? >> tucker: the fbi's completely on the level, then, we don't need a series of -- >> why does this scandal deserve less scrutiny than other scandals? the iran-contra scandal? why does this not deserve an independent commission?

>> tucker: [laughs] because there is no evidence that anything happened? it's kind of insane? that would be one reason. >> they had 181 senate staffers in the intelligence committee working on that investigation. there are seven that are here. >> tucker: you have already looked that up. when i saw her say that, you were the first person that came to mind. i thought zach is on this frequency, you are getting the radio waves. >> [laughs]] >> tucker: i was wondering, has she gone too far even for you? my theory is that maxine waters is the voice of the democratic grassroots, the radicals. i wonder if they are so far out on this russia thing that theyi are going to make you look moderate by comparison, if they will force democratic leadership to treat this like a war crime. >> we need to talk about where we are right now. there is an active investigation going on right now. the fbi is looking as to whether or not there was collusion.n. the facts we have right now, in terms of the communications between top aides ofr

donald trump and russian spies, we know that that happen. carter page talked to a man in moscow that runs the division that deals with u.s. elections.e >> tucker: i'm sure he did. >> paul manafort. >> tucker: you are saying carter page was a "top aide" to donald trump? [laughs] >> when donald trump was askeded who his foreign policy advisors are, carter page. >> tucker: he said he never met the guy or talk to him in his life. i have asked this to every guest on the subject. most other channels are ignoring the russia thing because it it is an embarrassing ruffle. i will never let it go because i enjoy it. now that we are moving toward war with russia based on the decisions of the trump administration, do you think it is possible to claim he is a russian puppet? >> i think it is absurd to say we are on the path to war with russia. >> tucker: that is what russia claims. that is what the foreign minister of russia just said. >> number one, if you are talking about the tomahawk missile strikes, they were a

couple of deescalated moves right after that. for example, putin said he would retaliate by cutting off communications between russian planes and american planes. e he ended up not doing that. >> tucker: so it's a ruse? i knew there had to be. this is a head fake. >> i think we should take eric trump's tweet at his word after the syrian strike, when he said, now, this proves there is no collusion between russia and syria. i think that this was done at at time when there was a lot of scrutiny. the rhetoric -- >> tucker: eric trumagent. o is ivanka too? >> i didn't say he is a russian agent. if he is, he is a pretty bad one. >> tucker: i want you to come back and fill us in in new installments as the conspiracy deepens. y >> any time you want, baby. [laughter] >> tucker: today in not sending their best news, the previous deported illegal aliens

has been arrested after he allegedly sexually assaulted a 9-year-old girl. his name is santiago martinez flores. he has a criminal history stretching all the way back to 1994. he was deported back to mexico in 2001, 16 years ago. in the not so shocking development, he was able to sneak back into this country. he made his way to oregon. once there, he was pretty safe. portland is famously a sanctuarm city, where the liberals in charge regard immigration law as unworthy of enforcement. guess what happened nextar in february? police say he broke into a family's apartment and attempted to sexually assault the young girl. she was able to escape but the attacker got away before the police arrived. he was only captured a few days ago while trying to flee backy across the mexican border. sound predictable but awful? of course it is.le don't attempt to draw a connection between the crime and the immigration policies of the left, or else you are against diversity. by the way, immoral. ha! coming up next, a public schooli

principal is on leave tonight for screaming at teenagers who dared to oppose abortion. watch this. >> these children are being murdered in our society. >> they are not children. they are cells. >> they are children. >> go home! >> tucker: those teenagers will be here after the break to tell us what this guy is like in class. stay tuned.rs per roll more "doing chores for dad" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper

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>> these are -- image bearers of god. >> you can -- don't talk to my students. do not understand what i say? do not talk to my students! >> sir, you need to turn to jesus christ and be free from your sins. >> [laughs] listen here, son. i am as gay as the day iss long and twice as sunny. i don't give a [bleep] as what you think i should be doing. >> tucker: apparently, this guy is an actual person, he has been placed on leave. connor and lauren haines join us tonight.is thank you for coming on. do you go to the school? set the scene for usus a little bit. how did this happen, who is this guy?t. >> we don't go to that school. we are homeschooled. we decided to go out to downingtown west high school because they had a holocaust symposium so we thought it would be a perfect opportunity to talc about abortion, which we consider the holocaust of our day. >> tucker: lauren, did you all

attack this guy orou did he just come out you? does the video represent what happened? >> we were not planning on going there, we are planning to go to the other high school. god had his hand in that situation and he wanted us there.th to be able to speak into his life. we were standing there and he came out about 5 minutes after we had been standing there. >> tucker: were you all using profanity or attacking anybodye or doing anything that would offend a person? >> no. >> no. besides the fact that the gospel of jesus christ does offend people. no, we were not cursing or banging on windows or anything. >> our goal in being out there was just to engage with students about the gospel of jesus christ. if they repent and believe in jesus christ, they can be set free from their sins. we were out there talking aboutr that and also about abortion, because there is a lot of

high school students involved in fornication, so we could talk to them about abortion and how it is wrong. it is murder. just to be able to engage with them. that is why we were out there. >> tucker: did this guy intimidate you? whatever people think of your message, of course you have an absolute right to express it because it is america, or was, anyway. did this guy intimidate you? >> a little bit.an honestly, that stuff, people have yelled at me before, especially when i have been out in philadelphia and stuff. it wasn't anything that i was too surprised by. i was a little bit intimidated but definitely not too much. >> definitely, i mean, as christians, we are promised practically that we will be persecuted for the name of christ. >> tucker: now, connor, you are wearing a shirt that says "abolitionist" on it. what does that mean? >> i'm not a pro-lifer or anything like that.

i want to totally abolish human abortion. it's a group called abolish human abortion. we seek not to regulate abortion, but to call it murder and what it is and to completely abolish it in the united states of america and in doing that, bring the gospel into conflict with child sacrifice. that is why i call myself an abolitionist, just because i'm not a pro-lifer trying to regulate abortion. it needs to be completely abolished. >> tucker: that is a pretty countercultural message. you have an absolute right to express that. thank you very much, connor and lauren, good to see you. up ahead, britain's national student union is implementing a ban on clapping and cheering. why? because they are offensive to the deaf and those with anxiety disorders. you may not believe that's a real story, but it is. is this the weirdest story of the day? we will debate it when we come back.ry back we're on to you, diabetes.

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♪ >> tucker: there is so much weird news, an abundant amount of weird news, a surfeit, in fact, we created an entire segment to figure out what is the weirdest of all. it is called "top that." tonight, joining us, katie pavlich and catherine lyons of famous d.c. >> stop what you are doing.fa there is a war on hand gestures. >> tucker: [laughs] >> there are two reporters that are taking a picture over the weekend in a press briefing room at the white house and they held up a sign, very often associated with the okay symbol, and cue the internet, everybody went up in arms or hands, and now, they

are being accused of being white supremacists, and basically -- >> tucker: why? >> alluding to whiter: power. because it is a hand symbol that is basically associated with white supremacy. >> tucker: a-okay is now racist? to go like that? >> especially if you are white. >> tucker: [laughs] i thought i was well versed in this. is it real? >> yeah, what happened to the old-fashioned bird? >> tucker: [laughs] i think this is okay around children. it means good job. your teacher says it. "good job." >> it also looks like a turkey. >> tucker: that's bizarre. >> it's bizarre. >> tucker: katie pavlich. >> they also across the pond in the u.k. are completely out of control. there is a liberal political student group there called the national union of students. they proposed that at any school event or any of the events they have had for this union meeting, that they ban clapping andnd cheering because it is sensitive

to people who cannot hear.ng therefore, deaf people are not included in the festivities. so this should be used instead to celebrate things. >> tucker: jazz hands instead? >> they say that clapping can trigger clapping-based anxiety and therefore, they should not be cheering or clapping at these events.tr >> tucker: that's insane. what about painting? >> what about blind people? where does it end? i would say it is patronizing to people who cannot hear to be pointing them out and saying the reason we are not cheering and doing this, embarrassing like b 5-year-olds, because you are ostracizing us and making sure all the attention is on our disability. rather than including them in different ways. imagine if they spent the amount of energy on stuff like this raising money to help research for deaf organizations or something like that. instead, they are just focused on making sure you use the gesture. >> tucker: all of these stories, we will find out in the end, are funded by some covert

right-wing group to discredit liberals. it is too stupid. can't be real. i don't even believe your story. i know enough to believe yours, catherine. you win. >> here is the hand gesture.ie >> tucker: you get the coveted, participation trophy. everybody gets a trophy. [laughs] you are a special flower. coming up, the award from "variety" was not enough. chelsea clinton just got another award in her honor. of course, you want to know all about it. we will tell you how she is being honored this time. stay tuned. ...allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm.

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couple weeks ago. she has been given the city harvest award for commitment in her efforts to help new york's hungry. don't worry. she did something to earn this award by personally packing 25,000 pounds of grapefruit to distribute to the cities needy. she didn't pack all that personally. she had the entire staff of the clinton foundation help her. whyy grapefruit? your guess is as good as ours. maybe that's what chelsea thinks poor people ought to be eating, probably not because that's what they want too eat, now that she cares. but grapefruit. let them eat grapefruit. in any case, there's a lesson here for any of you out there hoping to be honored as great humanitarians. take your family's gigantic foundation and use it to do purportedly good deeds for which you take all the credit. credited on countless magazine covers and star-studded luncheons. others work while you bask in the glow. it is all upside. too bad albert schweitzer never thought of that.

would have been a lot easier. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 for the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. a "the five" starts right now. ♪ >> hello, everyone, i am dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." as the mounting threat from north korea continues to grow, president trump is putting forward a new strategy telling bloomberg news would be honored to meet with kim jong-un under the right circumstances. many analysts have criticized mr. trump's openness. then candidate barack obama received a far friendly reception when asked about a similar idea during a debate in 2007. >>ld