facebook.com/seanhannity, @seanhannity on twitter. let us know what you think. a special thank you to all of our friends in the media attuning intimate community for the first time. all of the life you've heard about me or not true. send us a tweet. tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it was a testy weekend between the president and the press who cover him. those of you with better things to do may not have seen it by saturday was the night of the white house correspondents dinner, the party were washington's finest dressed up and pretend it is the oscars here in d.c. the party was a little different this year, not only to the media's preferred candidate failed to win last year's presidential election, a fact that was so crushing for money in the press there's some literally cried on camera, but the election's actual winner did not bother to show up, even though president trump was in there, he did not ignore it. watch this. >> media outlets like cnn and

msnbc are fake news. fake news. and they are sitting and they are wishing in washington. they are watching right now. they are watching. and they would love to be with us right here tonight. but they are trapped at the dinner, which will be very, very boring. but next year, maybe we all make it more exciting for them in washington. we have a good chance of showing up here again next year, too. >> tucker: will he make that dinner great again? meanwhile, at at the dinner it, white house correspondents association president jeff mason used his speech to complain about the president's treatment of the press. watch. >> tonight looks a little different. but the values that underpin

this dinner have not changed. in fact, i think they have been reinforced. we are here to celebrate good journalism. we are here to celebrate the press, not the presidency. and i am happy to report, for anyone who is interested, that this dinner is sold out. our job to report on facts ande, that is who we are. we are not fake news. we are not feeling news organizations. and we are not the enemy of the american people. >> tucker: that was jeff mason. we lured him to our studios tonight. he joins us live. good to see you. i agreed with your line that the point of the press, the reason for being, is to hold the powerful accountable. i would disagree that they do that consistently. but the dinner on saturday

night, which i did not attend but watched a tape off, was basically an extended middle finger to the president, an expression of dislike for the pressure didn't like or dislike politicians. >> i totally disagree with you. >> tucker: were you there? you just played my clip. i was there participating, what you didn't do was play the clip in which i said access under the trump administration has been good. it has. i would disagree with the way you introduced this by saying we complained about the trump administration. what we did was we said this is what has gone well and what has gone well as we had had good access. that is important. >> tucker: not just good access, but overwhelming, maybe too much access. >> beyond talking what access, we also talked about the first amendment. the white house correspondents association stands up for the first amendment. it is a clear understanding of those rights when you hear some of the rhetoric that president trump said. >> tucker: really? the first amendment is being challenged and ignored on call us at my college campuses across

the country. i haven't heard the white house press association said anything about that. >> i haven't seen that journalis who make their living under the protections of the first amendment say anything about the actual threats to the first amendment that are unfolding on campus. why is that? >> i can't speak for all journalists. >> tucker: you kind of can. you were the head of the white house correspondents association. >> i can speak for the white house correspondents association. >> tucker: are you troubled by that? >> absolutely. >> tucker: the speakers, the tone in the room, i watch the whole thing come again, i was not there. i was not in town. but basically, it was president trump doesn't like us and we don't like him back. >> that is just not true. >> tucker: i have been going to these things for 25 years. >> i wish you have come to this. >> tucker: i have never seen a lemur speaker or one who was more openly partisan than the kid you hired from "the daily

show" to come. not only was he not funny --dash go >> he did a great job. >> tucker: you really thought that was great? >> i think he did a really great job. if you look at the broad picture of that dinner beyond just having a comedian, which are traditionally have, you had bob woodward, carl bernstein, a video, the scholarship winners, the award winners of showing what the white house correspondents association is all about the importance of good journalism. >> tucker: >> tucker: how did y- did you listen to bob woodward? look -- i thought the whole evening was arranged around a response to a guy that wasn't there. >> the whole evening was arranged around the first amendment -- >> tucker: >> tucker: i look ae numbers from the public who believe that the press isn't straight and i think it is a real threat to our business and our real threat to everything tt we represent and do in the

media, if people don't believe us. one of the reasons they don't believe us is because of the way the last election was covered, which was overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate over another. that is not surprising given that there is no politically diversity in the press corps. politico did a study on this. how many registered republicans in the white house press corps? zero. that's a huge problem, don't you think? >> i'm a registered independent. i think it is important to be neutral when you are covering politics in the white house. >> tucker: do you i agree with you. you think of the people covering the white house are objective? >> i do. we went to read their twitter feeds? >> i can't speak for every member of the association. 's i think it is very important to be neutral. i think it is important to report the facts, it is important to report robustly with the president is doing. i think you should do that regardless of whether the president is a republican or a democrat. >> tucker: i agree with that vehemently.

let's drop the pretense. here is the pretense. the pretense of objectivity or -- the press in washington hates donald trump. he baits them. it's a two way deal. he doesn't like them and he goads them. but they rise to debate every time. in so doing, they reveal what they really think politically and that undermine their credibility. you have to see this because we are marinating and it. do not acknowledge that is happening? >> i would acknowledge it is important when such reporters, be they correspondence on television or print reporters of "the new york times" or reuters or any other news organization, to make a mistake, they should correct it. i think it is important. i think having bias is not acceptable. i think it's important, however, also to know when a consumer of news, whether you are looking at a program that is biased or is not. there are avenues, as you well know, act places like fox come at that place is like other networks, if you watch tv, you will get a certain angle, you get a certain opinion. >> tucker: know what you are watching, know what you are reae

correspondence need to stay in their lanes. >> tucker: i do an opinion show. >> do you think the people that watch you know it's show? >> tucker: i don't know why they would think that. i never say that. in contrast to the people standing in the briefing room, who are telling us on camera, i am just here to report the facts. then, you read their twitter feed, and it says "i hate trump." they are out in the open libera liberal. >> do you have a specific example? >> tucker: we have done like 15 shows on this. i know a lot of these people. they have always kind of been liberal. but it's totally open. "the new york times" correspondence, for example, we had the ombudsman for "the new york times," read all these tweets from these people, her correspondence, she couldn't defend them. i am just saying, is that of the association, don't you feel the

credibility of the report as you represent is undermined when they wave their opinions run a public? >> i think it is important to report the facts in the news and to stay neutral. >> tucker: you would encourage your members not to reveal their political biases in public? >> was not the correspondence association's job to tell her members how to do their jobs. it's not. we stand up for the values of truth, the values of reporting the facts and values of the first amendment, which is to have acted to the president, to be able to do our jobs and that is why we advocate for it. >> tucker: the idea that your readers or viewers believe you is a central not just business model -- if you had a white house press corps that was 100% middle aged white men, there would be a full-blown outcry about the lack of diversity. i bet you 100 bucks, doesn't look at america. if you have not a single registered republican, and a country in which the congress, the majority of governorships, the white house, held by republicans, but doesn't like america at all. yet, i don't think he would wring a thing about it, are you?

>> the white house correspondents organization has no impact over who our members hire. i can't tell fox, which is a member of the white house correspondents association, you need sent this person or that person -- crispy when i'm not you to -- there was no racial or ethnic diversity, presumably, you would say this isn't right. do you think it's okay that there are zero registered republicans of the white house press corps according to politico? >> i think what is important is that we have a press corps made up of journalists who report the truth and who robustly report on the president in united states. >> tucker: diversity doesn't matter? >> of course diversity matters. >> tucker: but not political diversity? >> diversity is important to me. it is important to me in a row that i play. >> tucker: [laughs] we are almost out of time. his political diversity important? >> is diversity important? >> tucker: political diversity. speak of my job is to tell --

what they do is report the news, regardless of what political party controls the white house. >> tucker: i wish i believe that, i don't. jeff, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: time now for "news abuse," we highlight the excesses of of the american media. president trump sat down with eric bolling a fox and said that despite his rhetoric on saturday, he doesn't actually hate the press, except sometimes he does. watch. >> not all of the media. i will tell you, that is unfair the way they cover. they say that the media, i am against the media, i am not against the media. i am against the fake media. if you look at cnn, the way they cover me, no matter what you do, it is negative, hits, hits. so, i love the media. i think the media is great. if i do something bad, treat me badly. but they don't tell it like it is. >> tucker: a media reporter for "the hill." he was there on saturday at the

correspondents dinner and he joins us. what do you think? >> what i think of the white house correspondents dinner? >> tucker: yeah. >> first, i would like to comment on jeff mason's interview. he spoke there that night. i am utterly curious and confused here. he admitted to you that under the trump administration, tucker, that there has never been better access. all i know is when i watch the daily press briefings, sean spicer takes more questions than josh earnest ever did, there are more reporters because of skype another press passes have been given out to other different kinds of reporters and ever before. i know that president trump gave nine major interviews last week, including without lady it's like "the washington post," cbs news, reuters, "wall street journal." then i hear them on saturday night to say there are threats n united states. we must remain vigilant, the world is watching. i got a first amendment pen when i walked into the dinner. wait. i don't get it. on one hand, the trump administration is totally about access, and on the other hand, they are a press -- their first treatment is being threatened.

how does that square, tucker? i think the references changing of libel laws. you think that is going to happen? >> comments were made by reince priebus on sunday. jeff mason raising his comments on saturday. i think they will be change? i don't know. i don't know. i can't answer that question. it's hard, it's very hard if you are a public figure, to sue an outlet if they reported negative news about you that is completely false. you have to show damages. you have to show that there was actual damages that occurred and you hardly ever see anybody won outside of hulk hogan, who sued gawker out of insistence. otherwise come you don't see it happen very often. >> tucker: i wasn't there. i was on the other side of the continent. i usually go. but watching the tape of it, as i did today, it seemed from beginning to end, hostile to the president. let me be totally clearly still not clear. i think reporters' job is to hold the powerful to account, but this seemed personal.

>> absolutely it seemed personal. no question about it. there was vitriol toward donald trump, tucker, that we have never seen with any other president. i base that our numbers. media research center. i get they are conservatives but i did a study that showed 89% of stories are negative toward donald trump. okay. let's go to the swedes. they have a company called media tenor research firm. 97 out of 100 stories by the "cbs evening news" and the nbc nightly news were negative toward donald trump and his first month. i get at that 65, 35, it will skew negative. for 97-3, that tells me that there is probably an agenda there. by the way, a threat to the first amendment doesn't happen when a president is mean to the press. when he is nasty to them. that is exercising his first amendment rights. you could say it is beneath the presidency. what we are confusing trump beig made to the press with first amendment being suppressed. the first amendment, tucker, was under threat under the obama

administration. they spied on james rosen. not only that, at this network, james rosen. they designated him as a flight risk so they were then have to tell them about their surveillance. they secretly seized associated press phone records. they rejected a record number of foia request, freedom of information requests. those are threats to the first amendment. jeff mason should have been speaking out to that at other white house correspondents dinner's. parties should have been canceled, boycotts should have happened under the obama administration. actions, obama, words, trump. that is a difference here. >> tucker: we actually have just mason still in our studio. would you like to respond to any of the things that judges that? >> the first thing i would respond to, joe, sort of like at the top clip of the show, you cherry picked my words and you guys are critical of how reporters report. you are leaving out a good chunk of what i said. i talked about access. >> i said that. i said you said there was good access. >> what you did not say, when i talked about the

first amendment, the first amendment being under threat, i talked about the rhetoric that has come -- >> did you ever make that comment under the obama administration of the first amendment was under threat from a jeff? >> i'm the president of the white house correspondents association now. >> tucker: let me ask you guys really quick -- >> did you ever ask about that? >> tucker: do you think of tomorrow, the graduating class of byu, brigham young university, came to washington and got jobs in the white house press corps, 80% of the reporters working in the briefing room were graduates of byu, du, jeff first, do you think the coverage would change it anyway? >> i have no idea how the coverage would change. >> tucker: of course you do. [laughs] of course it would change. >> i think it is important for journalists who come to be part of the white house press corps have the objective of reporting the truth. mack. >> tucker: do you think that if people that came from a

different, diverse background were brought here to washington? not like everyone else? would it affect the coverage? >> the problem is, tucker, i don't think they would be hired. [laughter] they wouldn't get the chance to do it in the first place. >> tucker: gentlemen, thank you both. coming up, today is made a come of the great state for labor protests around the world. instead of marching for workers, today, actavis demanded open borders. real talk to a protest organizer about what that means exact [student] i can just quit school and get a job. [ex student] daddy's here. [wife] hi [dad] hey buddy [son] hey dad [wife] i think we can do this. [chancellor] adam baily. [chancellor] adam baily.

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>> tucker: international made a protest got violent in paris but the french were the only ones taking to the streets. across the united states, protesters marched against immigration laws. in the bay area, marchers demanded open border, shouting "no ban come a for all. executive director of the coalition joins us now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for coming on. >> tucker: i am 47. i have watched a lot of may day protest. imagine my surprise watching and international workers day protest that was designed over 100 years ago to highlight the concerns of workers, wages, arguing on behalf of policies that would lower wages. i thought, boy, global capitalism is pretty tricky. i got you guys to advocate on

behalf of the chamber of commerce. how did they do that? >> tucker, it had nothing to do without. >> tucker: really? >> yeah. i was a 500,000 people in foley square and we were there to make a statement about the shared values that we have as a country. that is that immigrants are part of the solution. immigrants have been making america great for centuries now. immigrants are workers, they are business owners, they are employers, they are neighbors, families, and friends. we wanted to join with hundreds of thousands of people all across the country in peaceful protest to make that statement that we will rise up and that we will fight back. >> tucker: okay. i kind of agree with what you said. i am for immigrants and they are all those things. they are great. but they are also one of the reasons that the wages for american working class families have stayed stagnant or declined because when you have an overabundance of something, and this case labor, it its value falls. there is no controversy about that. you are advocating for that. you are advocating for lower

wages for workers. i just don't know why. >> that is not what i am arguing for. in fact, we said today that it's important to pay fair wages for everybody. here is the fact. the facts are that immigrants contribute so much to the american economy. here in new york from the state comptroller's estimate they add $230 billion in economic value. they pay $10 billion in taxes here in new york city. new york city happens to be one of the biggest cities in the emigrant capital of the world. we know that emigrants add tremendous value as workers but also has employees and small businesses. >> tucker: for sure. i want you to track with me, steve. these are average working people. let's say i work for 12 bucks an hour and someone comes up to work for seven. to my wages go up or do they go up? they go down about happens across the country. there is no debate about it. a lot of studies show wet. the chamber of commerce have a big employees are for it. you are forward, to? i'm confused. are they paying you to be forward? why would you before it? it doesn't help working people.

>> they certainly aren't paying me for it. >> tucker: are you sure? >> i'm very sure about her. here's what i would say, tucker. the fact is, it's not that simple. we live in a global economy. we don't live in a simple equation where one person's wages go up and the others go down. it's not a zero-sum game. when you look at the impact that immigrants have come it is tremendous. this is something that people see not only here new york city, but all across new york state, as well. in buffalo, rochester, even in places like utica. >> those are all places that are deeply in trouble, as you know, but a class is dying. the middle class is dying in new york city as you may know. i think you follow this since you are on tv arguing on behalf of it. let me ask you some questions. we have about 1.1 million people come here illegally every year. what is the optimal number, how many want to lead in their workers that you represent? >> i'm not an expert in the number of specific immigrants

coming in. here's what i will tell you. these cities that you just mentioned, not only those cities, but buffalo, albany, rochester, though cities are in dire economic straits not because of immigrants, but immigrants are part of the way forward. that is been proven time and time again. immigrants add value. they stabilize neighborhoods, they pay taxes, their great workers and business workers. we should figure out how to get more immigrants. >> tucker: you don't know how many. you are making the case but you haven't actually thought through how many is a good number because you are not going to get into the economics. you were arguing the economics. let me ask you one more simple question. how is it, if i work in a depressed postindustrial town, and say the service industry, for a bunch of people come and who are willing to work for less than i am used to working for, why is that good for me? >> it's good because immigrants will commence, we have actually seen this upstage. immigrants will, and, they will help to stabilize neighborhoods, they were, they patronize local businesses, and they spend their

money, as well. it is absolutely unquestionable. >> tucker: hold on. let me ask you a simple question. why haven't unemployment rates gone down in those places? picket town. how about lewiston, maine. a ton of somalis. they are immigrants. employment rates have gone down. unemployment has gone up. why is that? >> immigrants are part of the solution but they are not the solution in and of itself. a place like new york city camo you look at the economy, over the past 25 years, the economy has gone up at the same time the immigrant rate has gone up. >> tucker: no, actually, the financial services industry floats all of new york city, as you know. it has nothing to do with immigration. okay. i just wish the left were more serious about economics. they used to be. i don't know what happen. steve, think about it. >> we can talk about economics any time. >> tucker: coming up next, at least one member of congress has moved on from wanting an

investigation into president trump's ties to putin and his going all the way right to impeachment. do not pass go, impeached. his congressional letter becoming even more demented. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. ♪ energy lives here.

>> tucker: that has been months since any significant information has come out regarding russian involvement, reported russian involvement, the last election. somehow, political rhetoric keeps getting hotter anyway.

last week of a democratic congresswoman maxine waters of los angeles speculated that congressman jason chaffetz is retiring because he fears exposure is a russian agent. this past weekend, she went further than matt, believe it or not. she said is it it is already time to talk about impeachment for president trump. watch. >> this pressure connection is a serious issue. i have been talking about it for a long time. each day, we learn more and more about it. the guardian article brings us even closer to the facts. something took place, meetings have taken place, conversations have taken place. i have always said that i believe that there was collusion. if we determine the facts, if the dots are connected, that there has been collusion, then i really do think that this president could be impeached. >> tucker: we have asked congressman waters many times to come on the show, begged her staff and every time she has declined. we are still helping. instead, we turned to a former

dnc, sr., advisor. he joins us tonight in the studio. great to see you. >> great to see you too, tucker. >> tucker: my question if you come for those of you who are really on the wavelength, really understand the rush of conspiracy, why impeachment? why not life imprisonment, the death penalty. it seems weak sauce. >> let's be clear. not a lot of us are talking about impeachment. the word we are talking about's investigation. we need an independent investigation i can get to the bottom of this because the fact that we know right now are very and very scary and we need to get to the bottom of it. >> tucker: wait, you are not telling me that you want to find the extreme to maxine waters of los angeles? by the way, how long before she calls for a life in prison? >> first off, congressman waters his well-equipped to defend herself. >> tucker: really? other democrats defend her. why not now? >> i am a big fan of hers.

the letter i word we should be talking about it is investigation and independent commissions that can get to the bottom of this potential -- >> tucker: there is an fbi investigation already going on. unless you think the fbi -- do you think the fbi has been penetrated by russian intelligence? >> i think we should treat this scandal likely what other scandals. there are multiple lay of investigation. we need investigations, we need independent commissions to get to the bottom of this. >> tucker: i am confused. if the fbi has not come as you alleged, been penetrated by vladimir putin's secret servicea tool of the kremlin, too, that is an open question to you. >> weight. i am sorry. what is an open question for me? >> tucker: the fbi's completely on the level, then, we don't need a series of -- >> why does this scandal deserve less scrutiny than other scandals?

the iran-contra scandal? why does this not deserve an independent commission? >> tucker: [laughs] because there is no evidence that anything happened? it kind of insane? that would be one reason. >> they had 181 senate staffers in the intelligence committee working on that investigation. there are seven that are here. >> tucker: i have already looked that up. when i saw her say that, you were the first person that came to mind. i thought zach is on this frequency, you are getting the radio waves. >> [laughs] >> tucker: i was wondering, has she gone too far even for you? my theory is that maxine waters is the voice of the democratic grassroots, the radicals. i wonder if they are so far out on this russia thing that they are going to make you look moderate by comparison, if they will force democratic leadership to treat this like a war crime. >> when you talk about where we are right now. there is an active investigation going on right now. if the fbi is looking as to whether or not there was collusion. the facts we have right now, in

terms of the communications between top aides of donald trump and russian spies, we know that that happen. carter page talked to a man in moscow that runs the division that deals with u.s. elections. >> tucker: i'm sure he did. >> paul manafort. >> tucker: you are saying carter page was in "top aid" to donald trump? [laughs] >> by donald trump was asked who his foreign policy's advisors would become a carter page. >> tucker: he said he never met the guy or talk to him in his life. i have asked this to every guest on the subject. most other channels are ignoring the russia thing because it edges embarrassing ruffle. i will never let it go because it i enjoy it. now, that we are moving toward war with russia based on the decisions of the trump administration, do you think it it is possible to claim he is a russian puppet? >> i think it is absurd to say we are on the path to war with russia. >> tucker: that is what russia claims. that is with the foreign minister of russia just said. >> number one, if you are

talking with a tomahawk missile strikes, they were a couple of deescalated moves right after that. for example, putin said he would retaliate by cutting off communications between russian planes and american planes. he ended up not doing that. >> tucker: it's a ruse? i knew there had to be. this is a fake. >> i think we should take eric trump's tweet at his word after the syrian strike, when he said, now, this proves there is no collusion between russia and syria. i think that this was done at a time when there was a lot of scrutiny. the rhetoric -- >> tucker: eric trump is also a russian agent. as ivanka to? >> i didn't say he is a russian agent. if he is, he is a pretty bad one. >> tucker: i want you to come back and fill us in it new installments as a conspiracy deepens. >> any time you want baby. [laughter] >> tucker: today and not standing there best news, the

previous deported illegal aliens has been arrested after he allegedly sexually assaulted a 9-year-old girl. his name is santiago martin as florist. he is a criminal history stretching all the way back to 1994. he was deported back to mexico in 2001, 16 years ago. in the not so shocking development, he was able to sneak back into this country. he made his way to oregon. once there, he was pretty safe. portland is famously a sanctuary city, where the liberals in charge regard immigration law as unworthy of enforcement. guess what happened next in february? police say he broke into a family's apartment and attempted to sexually assault the young girl. she was able to escape with the attacker got away before the police arrived. he was only captured a few days ago while trying to flee back across the mexican border. sound predictable but awful? of course it is. we don't attempt to draw a connection between the crime and the immigration policies of the left, or else you are against diversity. by the way, immoral. coming up next to my public

school principal is on leave tonight for screaming out teenagers who dared to oppose abortion. watch this. >> these children are being murdered in our society. >> they are not children, they are cells. >> go home! >> tucker: those teenagers will be here after the break to tell us what this guy is like in class. class. stay

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at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that's the power of and. >> tucker: two pro-life teenagers had just had a pretty amazing encounter with the forces of tolerance. they were trying to protest against abortion on a sidewalk outside stem academy, they have a right to do that, by the way. it's a private high school in pennsylvania. they were perfectly within their rights by doing so. that is outrage and assistant principal, who went completely . watch this for you we are exposing the holocaust that is happening in america. >> there is no holocaust. >> there actually is.

>> talking about about a holoco into the inner city. >> these are -- god. >> you can -- don't talk to my students. do not understand what i say? do not talk to my students! >> sir, you need to turn to jesus christ and be free from your sins. >> [laughs] listen here, son. i am as as the day is long and twice as funny. i don't give a [bleep] as what you think i should be doing. >> tucker: apparently, this guy is an actual person, he has been placed on leave. connor and lauren hayes join us tonight. thank you for coming on. do you go to the school? at the scene for us a little bit. how did this happen, who is this guy? >> we don't go to that school. we are homeschooled. we decided to go out to downingtown west high school because they had a holocaust symposium so we thought it would be a perfect opportunity to talk about abortion, which we consider the holocaust of our

day. >> tucker: lauren, did you all attack this guy or did he just come out you? passivity represent what happened? >> we were not planning on going there, we are planning to go to the other high school. god had his hand in that situation and he wanted us ther there. we were standing there and he came out about 5 minutes after we had been standing there. >> tucker: for you all using profanity or attacking anybody or doing anything? that would offend a person? >> no. besides the fact that jesus christ is offend people, no, we were not cursing or banging on windows or anything. >> our goal in being out there was just to engage with students about the gospel of jesus chris jesus christ. if they repent and believe in jesus christ, they can be set free from their sins. we were out there talking about that and also about abortion,

because there is a lot of high school students involved in fornication, so we could talk to them about abortion and how it is wrong, it is murder. just to be able to engage with them. that is why we were out there. >> tucker: did this guy intimidate you? whatever people think of your message, of course you have an absolute right to express it because it is america, or was any way. did this guy intimidate you? >> a little bit. honestly, that stuff, people have yelled at me before, especially when i have been out in philadelphia and stuff. it wasn't anything that i was too surprised by. it was a little bit intimidated but definitely not too much. >> definitely, i mean, as christians, we are promised practically that we will be persecuted for the name of christ. >> tucker: now, connor, you are wearing a shirt that says "abolitionist" on it. what does that mean? >> i'm not a pro-lifer or

anything like that. i want to totally abolish human abortion. it's a group called abolish human abortion. we speak not to regulate abortion, but to call it murder and what it is and to completely abolish it in the united states of america and in doing that, bring the gospel into conflict with child sacrifice. that is why i call myself an abolitionist, just because i'm not a pro-lifer trying to regulate abortion. it needs to be completely abolish. to be within a pretty countercultural message. you have an absolute right to express that. thank you very much, connor and lauren, good to see you. up ahead, britain's national student union is implementing a ban on clapping and cheering. why? because they are offensive to the deaf and those of the anxiety disorders. it's a real story. this is the weirdest story of the day? the day? whliberty mutual stood with mek

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♪ >> tucker: there is so much weird news, an abundant amount of weird news, a surfeit, in fact, we created an entire segment to figure out what is the weirdest of all. it is called "top that." tonight, joining us, katie pavlich, and catherine lyons a famous d.c. >> stop what you are doing. there is a war on hand gestures. >> tucker: [laughs] >> there are two reporters that are taking a picture over the weekend in a press briefing room at the white house and they held up a sign, very often associated with the okay simple, and cue the internet, everybody went

up in arms or hands, and the now, they are being accused of being white supermarket cysts, and basically -- >> tucker: why? >> because it is a hand symbol that is basically associated with white supremacy. >> tucker: a okay is now racist? to go like that? >> especially if you are white. >> tucker: [laughs] i thought i was well versed in this. is it real? >> what happened to the old-fashioned bird? >> tucker: [laughs] i think this is okay around children. it means good job. your teacher says it. "good job." >> it also looks like a turkey. >> tucker: that's bizarre. >> it's bizarre. >> tucker: katie pavlich. >> they also across the pond in the u.k. are completely out of control. there is a liberal political student group they are called the national union of students. they proposed that at any school event or any of the events they have had for this union meeting,

that they ban clapping and cheering. because it is sensitive to people who cannot hear. therefore, deaf people are not included in the festivities. so, this should be used instead just celebrate things. >> tucker: jazz hands instead? [laughter] >> they say that clapping can trigger clapping-based anxiety and therefore, they should not be cheering or clapping at these events. >> tucker: that's insane. >> what about blind people? where does it end? i would say it is patronizing to people who cannot hear to be pointing them out and saying the reason we are not cheering and doing this, embarrassing like five euros, because you are ostracizing us in making sure all the attention is on our disability. imagine if they spent the amount of energy on stuff like this raising money to help research for deaf organizations or something like that. instead, they are just focused on making sure you use the gesture.

>> tucker: all of these stories, we will find out in the end, are funded by some covert right-wing group to his credit liberals. it is to stupid. i don't even believe your story. i know enough to believe yours, catherine. you win. >> here is the hand dressed her praise. when you get the cover ted participation trophy. everybody gets a trophy. [laughs] you are a special flower. coming up, the award from variety was not enough. chelsea clinton just got another award in her honor. of course, he wants to know all about it. we will tell you how she

>> tucker: chelsea clinton has received it yet another award honoring her profound achievements in the rarefied field of being the president's daughter. we should start a whole weekly segment about celebrating chelsea. she has been given the city

harvest award for commitment in her efforts to help new york's hungry. she earned this award by personally packing 25,000 pounds of grapefruit to distribute to the city needy. sheet impact pack that, personally. she had the entire staff of the clinton foundation help her. maybe that's what chelsea things for people ought to be eating, grapefruits. grapefruit, let them eat grapefruit. in any case, there's a lesson here for any of you out there hoping to be honored as great humanitarians. take your families gigantic foundation and use it to do reportedly good deeds for which you take all the credit. others work while you bask in the glow. it is all upsides. would have been a lot easier. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 for

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