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credibly and this. >> martha: so interesting. a lot of heat in that room today. good evening, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. here is "the story" on may the third. the art of the deal president needs to win over a rested g.o.p. that is not happy in some quarters. passage of the health care bill could go a long way toward that goal. >> we have been gaming, gaining votes. that is been a real positive development. >> to me, it is a very big amendment that helps close the bill. >> you are not quite there yet? >> very close. >> martha: we are working on more news in the story, tomorrow. all that, as late-night star jimmy kimmel makes a plea for universal coverage and he managed to animate the battle line. >> we share that concern for their child, as well as any child that needs care. that is frankly by the president fought so hard to improve the bill like he did this morning, to make sure there was that extra layer of protection for

anyone with a pre-existing condition, no matter their stage in life. >> martha: how about for spending bill, very controversial. just past the house. some trump backers are outraged. conservative commentator ann coulter declaring "we want the ruthless businessman we were promised." we will get to all of that tonight. but our top story, back to fbi director james coming and his testimony. this was the first time that he spoke about the pre-election decision that he that put him so much on the hot seat. >> the team also told me, we cannot finish this work before the election. then, they work to night after night after night and they foun. they found classified information on anthony weiner. somehow, her emails are being forwarded to anthony weiner, including classified information by her assistant, huma abedin. they found thousands of new emails and called me the saturday night before the election and said, thanks to the

wizardry of our technology, we have only had to personally read it 6,000. we think we can finish tomorrow morning, sunday. >> martha: what a story. judge andrew napolitano here with the potential fallout. we begin with house intelligence committee member congressman eric small well on capitol hill. congressman, welcome. good to have you here today. very interesting back and forth. you are on the intel committee. this is the senate judiciary committee that was grilling comey. what did you think? >> we will hear from director comey tomorrow. it's important that we have hearings like this and conduct of the oversight that we are charged with. what was most striking for me was when he said that the russians are still going at us. so, i think that that should be a wake-up call for both republicans and democrats, we have a responsibility to do everything we can to make sure we are never in a position on we find ourselves in right now, which is divided because of interference in an election. >> martha: do you think that will be a bigger topic at your hearing tomorrow? some of the criticism today was

that there was a lot of backward looking and there wasn't enough update or he wasn't forthcoming enough on how that investigation is going. >> i am most interesting interested in what happens next. i want to make sure that the fbi has all of the resources they need to conduct this investigation. i want to make sure that our committee gets back to being one that is independent, that's credible, and can show progress. >> martha: it's interesting from the democrats side, when you juxtapose something that hillary clinton said yesterday with james coming today. watch this. >> the election on october 27th, i would have been your president. >> this been one of the world's most painful decisions. i would make the same decision. i would not conceal that from the congress. >> martha: he was saying that given the magnitude of those emails that they found, going through anthony weiner's laptop, that the evidence that he was presented with made it impossible for him to say nothing, given the fact that he had already gone down the road far enough to say that there was a lot of negligence but that

there was going to be no prosecution. he felt he needed to update congress that they were reopening me the investigation. >> i wish that hillary clinton was president today but right now, i think the best thing we can do is look forward and do everything we can to find out what happened with russia's interference, and what we can do to make reforms that were we ae never in a mess like that again. >> martha: it's interesting that susan rice has now said that she will not testify about the unmasking that was done that revealed certain members of the trump transition team. a lot of people are going to take issue with that. >> it has also been an issue that has been debunked, that susan rice did anything untoward or they go. donald trump put that out there. we believe, just to obstruct an investigation into his team's ties to russia. no evidence has been put forward that she did anything wrong. i don't think we need to go on a fishing expedition for something

that is not there are not backed up. >> martha: you could say the same thing about the other side of this investigation because there has been no evidence that there was collusion between the trump campaign at the russians. there are people on the other side of your committee who very much want to know why she had the authority to unmask these individuals. i don't understand why you have such a problem with even having her there and asking those questions because it could very well be you or someone else on your committee who is unmasked next time and you might not like it. >> martha, she certainly had the ability to review intelligence that came across her desk. there has been not a shred -- >> martha: she would have to prove that there was a national security imperative to do so. there are legitimate questions about whether or not she had that or whether it was a fishing expedition to look for dirt on the transition team. i still don't understand why you were not curious about what the answer that question is. >> because i'm not charged with being serious, i am charged with following the evidence. what is interesting, martha, the white house is the only entity

in the world that has the power to declassify what she reviewed. they want to do that. that should tell you, i think -- >> martha: they have shown people on this committee. you probably had the opportunity to see it, as well. >> i have been briefed on it. i am saying, martha, if they had evidence that she did anything wrong, i am sure they would show it. >> martha: i think most people want to see a fair hearing for both sides of the concerned on the rush investigation. eric swalwell, good to see you. >> my pleasure. >> martha: here now, fox news senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano. good to see you. he watched all of us today. comey was grilled. grassley got upset with him at one point. what'd you think about it? >> i was very upset at the explanation that director, he gave. as you know, for you and our colleagues, i have been watching this and monitoring it and talking about it and writing about it. his first mistake was on july 5th when he told the world that he was recommending to the justice department that

mrs. clinton not be indicted because "no reasonable prosecutor would take the case." that is not a judgment he can make. then, inexplicably, and conceivably, he outlined all the evidence against her, which is so overwhelming, it defied the logic of a statement he originally made. then, when he revealed, we all know this history, two weeks before election day, they found, the obtained anthony weiner's laptop and they thought they were thousands of emails and there and they were reopening the investigation. he compounded this. all along, the fbi is investigating whether or not donald trump's campaign associates had any connection with the russians. jim comey, quite properly, remained silent on that. so, by speaking out about one of the investigations and remaining silent on the other, mrs. clinton has a legitimate argument. unlike congressman swalwell, i'm happy she is not president what she is a legitimate argument that the fbi, under jim comey,

did the unthinkable. i got involved in a partisan race in a presidential presidential election. >> martha: you said that it made him mildly nauseous to think that he could have made an impact. one of the dynamics of that was today was that there was an equal opportunity bashing of jim comey. both democrats and republicans are nervous that he may not come down on their political side of the fence, whether it be of the russian investigation, trump says as it is phony investigation. there is bad blood for both sides based on different moments of jim comey's experience. has he become too political? >> he has become political. because of his personal opinions about attorney general lynch, and i share those opinions, he knows a lot more about her behavior than i did, instead of acting like an fbi director, which means he's in charge of an investigation, he acted like the attorney general, making final decisions. >> martha: he negated her own responsibility, and he felt that

the only thing he could do was to step in. >> his job is to silently, quietly hand the evidence over to the leadership at the justice department. there are three people in the justice department between him and mrs. lynch at he bypassed all of them. >> martha: trump says is it a phony investigation into russia. is he doing the same thing that president obama did what he said there was nothing with the irs and that hillary clinton hadn't said anything wrong? >> he shouldn't say that because we don't know it is phony. they haven't produced any evidence. maybe it will just silently be shut down or maybe somebody will be indicted. until then, we don't know what the fbi has. >> martha: george, thank you. breaking tonight, republicans are in intense negotiations over health care. we are just coming out from senior sources on the hill, this book could happen tomorrow. we have been down this road before. with 24 hours to go, speaker brian said that he would only go forward with a vote if he thought he had the numbers to pass it. we are on the verge of major legislative accomplishment,

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>> martha: breaking moments ago, a senior source on capitol hill is telling fox news that the vote on the revised g.o.p. health care bill is very likely to happen tomorrow. dr. charles krauthammer will be with us and just moments to react to this. first, let's go to peter doocy on capitol hill where they are handling hammering this out. we have heard this. will it happen this time? >> it looks like it may happen tomorrow, martha. the latest word officially from republican leaders is that they have been gaining votes throughout the day, one chief of staff just told our capitol hill producer that i think that the

vote total is on the button right now. if you look at it, it looks like the dominoes started falling this morning when a pair of republicans who want to their parties obamacare replacement to do more to protect people with pre-existing conditions, sold president trump on an idea that would do that, using $8 billion that was already in the bill. the leaders of that effort were congressman billy long and congressman fred upton, who told me that the president agreed to their terms. >> he accepted what we were trying to do and knew we were trying to constructively improve the process. at the end of the day, i think that it can bring in enough votes to pass, which which we e likely to see it tomorrow. >> every time something changes of this bill, if either of those is conservative or moderate to support crates of moderates remain unmoved. they will vote no. one very influential member of the freedom caucus told me his

group is still behind the bill. >> while this is not full repeal, it is the best we could think we can get out of the house. >> you think it will still have the full freedom caucus endorsement? >> i do. >> the vice president, mike pence, was on the hill for a couple of hours. the hhs secretary tom price. they were pressuring members to support this bill and just file that jim jordan sound bite was playing, martha, we got conked on my confirmation, there is going to be a vote on the american health care act, the ld from leadership that just meant the last two and half hours and speaker rains office behind meanwhile that sound bite was playing. they said they will try it tomorrow, they think they have the votes. >> martha: that is breaking news. nicely done. thank you very much. big information tonight. a vote tomorrow. joining us now, nationally syndicated columnist dr. charles krauthammer joins us. always good to see you. thank you for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> martha: it sounds like they are there. although, last time it sounded like they were there and they

weren't there. it sounds like they basically are exactly at the vote they need. they may be in a situation where they can lose even one. your thoughts? >> look, it is good news to hear that they may actually call the vote tomorrow because as paul ryan had said, if they won't call the vote, if the votes are there, they think they are there. i think this is a major achievement. i would have said so -- i wouldn't have said so an hour or two ago before we knew this was certain. the major achievement is this. this administration working with his congress, has managed to achieve in less than four month months, what the republicans were able to do in six years. for six years, they railed against obamacare, they said they would repeal it and replace it, without, as we now know, having a clue how they were going to do it. they were not that sincere about it, it turns out. people like fred upton, who supported bills to repeal when they knew it would be vetoed by

obama, all of a sudden, when it could be signed into law, got cold feet. they didn't support it. i think this is a major achievement to find a consensus replacement for a very fractious undivided republican caucus. i think it is a cause for celebration among republicans, even if, as i think is likely, the senates want to go along with that. >> martha: we just want to let people know that kevin mccarthy just confirmed that there will be a vote. it's going to happen tomorrow between 12:30 at 1:00. that is when it will get started. charles, you make a great point. if it has been so long since we have seen this kind of function and the government, where we see things getting hammered out. i'll be at, it is all on the republican side. they have the majority, they have been roundly criticized for not getting anything done in the first 100 days. at something they are getting there now. you also mentioned that we have crossed the rubicon. we are now a country that expects there to be health care

available to everyone. that is a new place for this country to be. the government is now in the health care business. it looked like they are there to stay. >> i think that is the real story of this drama. the real story is that over the seven years, obamacare has been largely influential and has had the success, maybe not on the ground at the real world, but the premium problems and all that, but it has changed for zeitgeist. it has changed the underlying assumption in the country that the government should guarantee in the end that everyone forget health care. that did not exist before 2010. i think the idea that some republicans still have, that health care is a commodity like any other, should be allocated by price, it's all a matter of choice, i think that is such a minority position now. that is why you got the revolt

for the moderate conservative republicans in the house. they were getting the message from their constituents that something has changed regarding medical care. you saw it in a reaction to the jimmy kimmel episode. people expect overwhelmingly that in the end, everybody gets the care. now, once that happens, all the calculations have to change. that is why we had 100 days of this infectiousness and arguing among republicans. i think we are at a new place. republicans are coming to terms with the repeal of obamacare idea, the idea that everyone should get health care one way or another. that is not going to happen. >> martha: hard to take away an entitlement, once you have rolled it out, never, ever happens. they are trying to make the best of it, i guess, from their perspective. they will vote tomorrow. charles, thank you very much. good to see you, sir. >> my pleasure. >> martha: just ahead.

america first explained. today, rex tillerson laid out the trump foreign policy doctrine. he is out there working to bring it to fruition. let me tell you, it is boldly different. it is very, very blunt. you will hear his words when general jack keane joins us in romans. also, you just heard charles mention this. jimmy kimmel delivered an emotional monologue about his newborn son. so, why is charlie hurt calling the late-night host an "elitist." key and what jimmy kimmel said about the coverage is that actually true? the architect of obamacare zeke emanuel tells us what happens if the baby turns purple. >> let's stop with the nonsense. this is in football. there are no teams. this is the united states. don't let their partisans gobbles divide us on something like this. ♪

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late-night tv moment that perhaps lead to some of the concessions to moderates on this health care redo. there were so much focus on it. jimmy kimmel revealing that his newborn son needed emergency surgery at cedars sinai. at how cute he is. his life was saved by doctors and nurses, prompting this emotional plea on his show. >> before 2014, if you were born with congenital heart disease, like my son was, there is a good chance he would never be able to get health insurance because he had a pre-existing condition. you were born with a pre-existing condition. if your parents didn't have medical insurance, you might not live long enough to get denied because of a pre-existing condition. if your baby is going to die, and it doesn't to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. i think that is something, whether you are a republican or democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right? i mean, we do. let's stop the nonsense. this is in football. there are no teams. we are the team.

it's the united states. don't let their partisan squabbles divide us on something that every person deserves. >> martha: those comments prompted this "washington post" headline, "the g.o.p. has no good answer for jimmy kimmel." in romans, we'll hear from charlie hurt, who says that he is acting like an elitist creep. he will defend those comments in a moment. first, dr. ezekiel emanuel, known as the architect of obamacare. good to see you today. >> glad to be here. >> martha: went over you to take us through, is whether or not the second part of what jimmy kimmel said, we all sympathize, any parent who has been through the frightening and joyful experience of having a child, and wanting to make sure everything is okay, feels for what he and his family went through. there is no doubt. but in terms of whether or not it would have been different, just the facts, beforehand, when the baby is born, if his family is destitute, and the baby is in the hospital, and the baby

starts, god forbid, turning purple, they don't walk away from that baby. they do surgery on that baby. regardless of the insurance situation, correct? >> first of all, so, let's be clear. yes, first of all, the mother might have been in a very different hospital than cedars-sinai. so, the quality of the hospital would have been affected. >> martha: that's true under obamacare or not under obamacare. >> let me just finish. >> martha: go ahead. >> the second thing is, the idea of transporting the baby to children's hospital might have been different. we do know as a matter of fact, actually, that people are treated differently by their insurance. there was a study done by professor doyle out of mit's that looked at accident victims in wisconsin. there was a very big difference in outcome as to whether you had an insurance, you are insured or uninsured, and the uninsured people actually died more frequently. we also have data from the american cancer society -- >> martha: let me just jump

in. you are going into a lot of different scenarios. just for the purposes of this discussion, we only have a few minutes, i want to talk about a baby in a hospital. what happens is, even before obamacare in fact, insurance companies added newborn infants -- >> you would like to narrow your case -- >> martha: i am just saying we all fall for what he was saying, doctor, but i want people to understand that there is no mean being out there who is not going to help a child who was just born hours before if they are in dire need. is that correct? >> it's very interesting how you want to narrow the case. remember arizona? i'm about to explain something. arizona a few years ago decided that they were going to take away coverage from medicaid patients for life-saving bone marrow transplants for children and the fact that some children died. oregon ended up doing the same thing. the fact that we don't take care

away, lifesaving care away from children, because of their insurance status, whether it is medicaid or being uninsured, your point is just wrong. we do that. i think jimmy kimmel is making a very accurate claim, that your insurance, -- speed when you are saying that although i am right, there are other cases where there are concerns. i hear you. we all want children who are in these situations to be taken care of. the other point you made about obamacare is not going to cover some want to move to cedars-sinai or to children's hospital. i mean, -- >> excuse me! again, you are not factually correct. >> martha: i have been factually correct all throughout. but go ahead. >> have the people who got coverage have private insurance and often go to scene her her saturday. they take pictures of medicaid, as well. let me just finish. the fact is what services are covered, do make a difference. the uninsured, we know, how

about a higher mortality rate in part for many reasons, but in part because of an insurance status, even in emergency circumstances. >> martha: i think we can all agree in this situation, any baby would be given care by the good doctors who would be in the hospital where the child is. >> jimmy kimmel's claim that your insurance artist can determine the kind of medicare you get even at a hospital turns out factually when you look at the data. the situation is whether you have good insurance are not good insurance. that is a situation. >> martha: everybody -- okay. >> if you want to look at one case when we have 310 million -- >> martha: what ever. we are discussing this case specifically, jimmy kimmel's comments touched off a firestorm, including this "washington post" opinion piece, who writes that kimmel, "wanted to know if you are not for bloated federal bureaucracy, socialized medicine, higher taxes, and tons of more debt

piled on her grandchildren, that, you are not a decent person." actually, jim, "if you are a decent person, you would shut your fat trap about partisan politics and go care for your kid who just nearly died, you elitist creep." charlie hurt, newly minted loser of the week by media, and normally a nice person, joins us now. charlie, was your head popping off last night when you are writing this? this is very, very harsh. given with his family went through. >> sure. but joe is taking your ill child and inserting a child into the public arena and using them as a prop to pitch partisan political politics. i find that to be disgusting personally. as he pointed out a minute ago, everybody, everybody, no matter what you are position as an obamacare, i think everyone wants to find a way for children, all people, specifically children, do you covered. the debate is about how do we do

that. for jimmy kimmel to use his position and to use this terrible situation that was heart-wrenching for anybody that listened to it, to take that and she jumped the rails into go into partisan politics with it, and it's like a bully who wants to just shut down debate -- >> martha: you could say the same thing about you. he has his show. he has freedom of speech. he can give his opinion about her, as do you. you don't need to call him an elitist creep based on his opinions. >> that's a fair point. again, i am not taking a child and dragging them into this debate and then looking at everybody that disagrees with me politically and saying, you don't like my child, you don't care about my child. that is no way to solve this. this is a very collocated to evade. we want to figure out how to get -- i want to get everyone to be covered. i want everyone to get well.

but rely on the federal government -- >> martha: i don't think he was pointing the finger. i do think in many of these cases, there is much more emotion. his emotion was rightly placed. i am not making any comment on that. but in terms of coverage and health care, my first question was, is that true? that i was trying to get out with his eco-manual. it true? none of us want to live in a country where someone is going to walk away from a baby he was turning purple at a hospital and let them die. that is not the case. that is not what happened. i have talked to doctors, i have read about the rules and the laws on us all day today. this is not what happens in america. >> martha: wow >> ironically, a hospital cannot turn away for you >> martha: you are not sayiy should be able to. >> no. what i am saying is, because of that, we sort of have de facto socialized medicine in this country. >> martha: that was just charles krauthammer was just saying. >> because of that, we are doing it in an ineffective way.

inserting the sort of thing into a hot political partisan debate i don't think helps anything. >> martha: as i said, normally a very nice person. this week's media i too loser of the week, lambasted today for this comment. thank you for coming on, thank you for talking about it. good to see you. you know that the resist movement is strong and there is a lot of money that is backing it. now, you have former president obama and former presidential nominee hillary clinton forming different entities to battle for who is the leader of the future party. who can pull in the most donors? this could get interesting, my friends. chris stirewalt this year. mercedes schlapp is here. plus, what does america first relieving of the world stage? when it comes to things like human rights. rex tillerson is freaking out about where the white houses with the priority list these days. general jack keane joins us nex next. ♪ s

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>> martha: new clarity today from secretary of state rex tillerson on just the the trump administrations america first notion means when it comes to who we are looking out for. with syria, north korea, russia, all looking to expand their influence by any means necessary, offering this candid assessment about how he sees our role now around the globe. >> let's talk first about my view of how you translate america first into our foreign policy. things have gotten out of balance. these are really important relationships to us that are really important alliances. we have to bring them back into balance. guiding all of our foreign policy actions are our fundamental values. our values are on freedom, human dignity, the way people are treated. those are our values. those are not our policies. they are values. at the end of it, it is strengthening our national

security, and promoting economic prosperity for the american people. >> martha: joining me now, general jack keane, chairman of the institute for the study of war. this sounds like the clarification and the expression of what the trump doctrine are shaping up to look at. where do you think? >> i think so. this will play out over time. i don't think there will ever be a trump doctrine written down. there will be a national security strategy that h.r. mcmaster's is crafting. what i see as happening, clearly, we are reassuring our allies. all the high government officials have gone around the world to do that and let them know that we stand behind them, we are supporting the alliances, we want you to board and share with us, we don't want to pay the disproportionate part of the funding for all of us. we got your back. that really is a reaction to the obama administration, who truly aggravated and frustrated our allies because they didn't believe the united states still had the back. the second thing, he mentioned our adversaries, the three of them, and one of the problems we

have with the obama administration, many people felt that they cater more to the adversaries in the allies. i think there is some truth to that. i don't want to overstate it. there is some truth to it. what tillerson is saying, we are looking at our adversaries clear-eyed. their departure from just engaging our allies, excuse me, are our adversaries, like the obama administration did, we will confront them. they are doing that a north korea, they are doing that in syria, which means not just syria, in terms of the assad regime, but the iranians and the russians. we are calling out the russians for the horrific behavior. those are the different anchor posts that i see taking place, truly different from what we experience the last eight years. >> martha: muscles to rex tillerson for a moment. >> it's a pressure campaign that has a knob on it. let's say we are at five or six right now, we are trying to be very, very clear and resolute in our message to them that you are

future security and economic prosperity can only be achieved through your following your commitments to do nuclear rice. >> martha: that was rex tillerson. sorry, i lost my audio. talk to me about what he means by, it's a pressure campaign that has a knob on it with north korea. now, we are about to dial five or six. very interesting. >> he is talking about an escalating campaign, we are giving the ball to china, to impose leverage on north koreans. they have stopped the import of coal. they are considering cutting off oil to north korea. if they do that, that would be a staggering move on their part. clearly, due to parts north korea. we are imposing sanctions ourselves. we have clearly told our allies and north koreans that the military option is on the table. i think people know that is credible. >> martha: jack, thank you very much.

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>> martha: we are back. the democratic party at a bit of a crossroads tonight as they continue to struggle to find their path after the last election. now, two familiar faces who are stealing the spotlight, kind of coming back on the scene as the former president, barack obama, moves forward with his foundation that he is establishing, and new reports that hillary clinton is launching her own pack. who will wield more political power? they will be tapping into some of the same walls. the two time presidential winner or the two time presidential loser? chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor and mercedes schlapp is a republican strategist. crystal ball is a senior fellow at the new leaders council. welcome to all of you up there on our big chandelier. good to see you tonight. we usually do the quote of the night at the end of the show. my good friend chris stirewalt

said something that i think was so quote for the that we are going to do it right now. so, chris, you basically were talking about whether or not hillary clinton should fade from the scene, and you said, "decency would compel most politicians to have mercy on a party they failed so lavishly. clinton couldn't even some on the same level of circumspection as al gore, who despite heroic levels of ego, was at least ashamed enough to grow a beard after he lost." [laughter] >> lord, i am as mean as charlie hurt. this b1 it's hard to be as mean as charlie hurt, chris, but if you are entering the competitio competition. what do you think? i think it's interesting to point out that president obama is starting a foundation. i don't know if you'll use that word you name it because it might bring up some of the memories of the clinton foundation that didn't always have the best connotations. chris, you go first.

>> i think president obama deserves the benefit of the doubt. he seems to be trying to fulfill the role that his predecessors did, certainly what president bush did for him, and large far farm, which is to not be part of the day today. obama seems to be working hard, and his first public comments, he elevated. he didn't talk about donald trump, he didn't talk about hard policy issues. he talked in generalities. i think he deserves credit so far, that he is trying to adopt that approach, which is very different than hillary clinton. >> martha: what do you think when you look at the future of the party, the democratic party, who do you think deserves to stick around, deserves to get people to give them money? they will all make a ton of money. we know that president obama has got a $400,000 speaking engagement from a wall street firm. who will be the leader, the bearer of this party? >> to be honest with you, as much as i respect both of them in terms of their careers in

public service, i don't think either president obama or hillary clinton needs to be the future of the democratic party. we have not only lost the 2016 election, we lost over 1,000 state legislative seats over the past six years. we have really failed to offer a big enough economic vision to deal with the massive changes facing the country. i am looking to people like bernie sanders, i am looking to people like congressman tim ryan from youngstown, ohio. they aren't afraid of thinking big, thinking bold, outside the box. frankly, i don't want anyone who is pulling down six-figures for wall street speeches to be the future of the democratic party. of course we will love barack obama. of course he will have a role, reelected, first african-american president, health care reform, banking reform, but we have got to look to the future into new voices. >> martha: i want to put up a quote from tom perez. this has become an issue for the democratic party. whether or not they should include people who are pro-life.

a lot of catholics fall into that group. he said every democrat, like every american, should support a woman's right to make her own choice about her body and her health. that is not negotiable and should not change city by city or state by state. mercedes, now you have nancy pelosi speaking out about this, and saying that she does and she is a catholic, believe that there ought to be room in the democratic party for people who are pro-life. >> i think it is clear that the democratic party has become the abortion party. it's the one issue where they have focused on and taken it to an extreme position. so many democrats voted against supporting the born alive infant protection act, which was one of those issues that most americans agree on. i do think that it's very fascinating to watch the democrats being those who want to exclude pro-lifers, when you're talking about 51% of americans, self identifying themselves as pro-life. i find it to be shocking that the democrats have decided that there is no room in the party

for democrats who support pro-life positions. >> martha: chris, how will that go over politically? do they need to embrace, do they need to widen the town for people who are pro-life and a democratic party? they used to be lot of them. politically, how does this play for them? >> democrats do have a sound chance to win back the house next year. they could be in a very good position to do that. if they want to do it, they will do it with candidates that match their districts. they are not going to do it by trying to impose their view on these districts. they will find candidates who match up. we saw that on the special election in atlanta. we are seeing that in a special election in south carolina. democrats have to say, look, you can get certain kind of people elected in south carolina, you could get other kind of people elected in the middle of missouri. he got to have candidates that match. on the issue of life, if democrats are so exclusionary as to say they want to love her pro-choice, pro-life democrats, then, they will leave seats on the table and they will make it that much harder to take back

the house. >> martha: krystal, they wouldn't allow the woman's march to have groups that are pro-life. this is something we need to change? >> the women's march is different than the democratic party as a whole. what you know, what nancy pelosi knows, what is demonstrated in that quote, when we passed health care reform, we had close to 40 pro-life democrats in the house. chris is right. if we want to be serious about a 50 state strategy, we got to allow people to channel their communities particularly on abortion and guns. we need to be focused on economics. >> martha: quick break and we will be right back after this. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand. also in kids chewables.

>> martha: 293 leave you with the plea from "the new york post," calling on americans to slow down and tomorrow for just a moment at the brighter things of the world has to offer. everyday miracles, like this one that he points out, a baby for a hearing aid and hearing his mom and dad for the very first time. >> hi.

hi. >> he is smiling. hello. >> hello. >> martha: a love that smile. we wanted to leave you in a positive note. that is a story tonight. we'll see you tomorrow at 7:00. tucker carlson is next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." fbi director james comey was back on capitol hill today, this time to testify before the senate judiciary committee. democrats on my committee grilled him over his behavior and last fall's election. in response, the director at knowledge that has aspects may have played some role in causing donald trump to win, and that possibility made him be sick. >> this is terrible. it makes me mildly nauseous to think that it might have had some impact on the election. but honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. everybody who disagrees with me has to go back to october 28th with me and stare at this and tell me what you would do.