have something to say to me? call the number on your screen 877-225-8587. that's all the time we have left this evening. thanks for being with us. see back here tomorrow night positive note. that is a story tonight. we'll see you tomorrow at 7:00. tucker carlson is next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." fbi director james comey was back on capitol hill today, this time to testify before the senate judiciary committee. democrats on my committee grilled him over his behavior and last fall's election. in response, the director at knowledge that has aspects may have played some role in causing donald trump to win, and that possibility made him be sick. >> this is terrible. it makes me mildly nauseous to think that it might have had some impact on the election. but honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. everybody who disagrees with me has to go back to october 28th with me and stare at this and tell me what you would do. what do you speak or would you conceal?

and i could be wrong, but we honestly made a decision between those two choices, that even in hindsight, this has been one of the world's most painful experiences, i would make the same decision. i would not conceal that. >> tucker: hillary clinton can identify with that feeling of nausea. she seems to have decided she would have won easily last fall if it had not been for the modeling james comey. she said this yesterday. >> had the election read on october 27, i would be our president. i was on the way to winning until the combination of jim comey's letter on october 28th and russian wikileakdoubts in te who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off. >> tucker: so, did the fbi director scott all hillary candidacy! if so, what does that mean for his capacity to run the federal bureau of investigation? congressman tim ryan is a

democrat representing ohio. do you buy that? do you think hillary would have won if it hadn't been for comey? >> i think it was unclear. it clearly had to some effect. but if you get into wisconsin, michigan, it shouldn't happen because in those states. we should be winning those states by nine or ten points. i think it affects to the fact that there really wasn't a strong economic message in the campaign on at the end of the day, i think that made the difference. >> tucker: i agree with you there. i also think it is possible that when the director said that they are investigating one of the presidential candidates, we are not specific about what we are investigating, probably didn't help. >> there is no question. >> tucker: why don't democrats call for his resignation? >> i think it is unclear what impact it had to. clearly, he justified what he had to save air. it had some affect. obviously, i think they are investigating donald trump in july didn't talk about that at all, didn't mention that at all. i think that was unfair and it clearly dealt a blow to her campaign. again, i don't think you can be

said that he caused the campaign. the real focus now moving forward is not the tweets about donald trump, the current president is under investigation by the fbi for ties to russia and russia's influence of the campaign. i think that is moving forward is what we should all be concerned about. >> tucker: democrats would like to keep it there but you are making an argument that contradicts itself, i think. most democrats are. they are saying that here is a guy who has a lot of power and misused that power that misuse of power affected the outcome of the election. but we still trust him enough to investigate a guy we don't like because it serves our immediate political purposes. that seems to be the position. >> the thing about the fbi position, there is a reason why it's a 10-year appointment, it is supposed to be insulated from politics. i don't think he intentionally tried to influence the election. i don't think that was his intent to pray did he have some affect on? of course he did. of course those poll numbers to distinct. another argument is whether or not it affected the election on

the hole. but he is supposed to be insulated from these things. we can have our opinions but at the end of the day, you don't throw out somebody in the fbi because they do something you don't necessarily like. >> tucker: unless it totally violates president and principal and common sense and it's compounded by a series of public statements that are baffling in their weirdness and overreach. for one, today, he says, i'm quoting him of the fbi director, "russia is the greatest threat of any nation on earth to the united states and its democracy." never mind china, north korea, iran, unsecured nukes in pakistan. that is a deeply seductive statement. he is not a policymaker. why is he saying things like that? >> my interpretation of that is that he was talking about the democratic process. pollutants affecting the selections in the ukraine, and those eastern bloc countries, in estonia, and in the united states, trying to affect the democratic process. that is how i read it. clearly, russia is more of a

threat, nuclear north korea, clearly is a threat. i thought he was referring to the democratic process. >> tucker: okay. i was actually going to draw a chart of my piece of paper. if we were to assess which world figures had a measurable outcome on the election, you put vladimir putin in one column and james comey and the other, i think comey would win overwhelmingly. there is no accident evidence that putin had any effect on this. for all the talk, there is no evidence. the it's a little weird, would you say, that comey is trying to divert attention with presenting no evidence, to putin? >> no. we don't know about the prudent peace. obviously, we know about the comey piece. that has been debated ad nauseam them throughout the whole campaign. comey's statements, his testimonies, they were all very public. putin was not working publicly. putin is working covertly. it sure does seem like he had a hell of an effect releasing all of those documents from the dnc,

all of podesta's emails, clearly hacking one political party over the other. tucker, we should all be concerned about this. i'm not saying this is a democrat. we should be concerned about flattery putin, who has influence elections and other places, they are trying to do things in the arctic with natural gas, they are doing things -- >> tucker: i'm not here to defend putin. >> i am just saying -- mostly when i haven't seen any evidence of this is true. after watching comey again and again over the span of more than a year make the statements that are very hard to understand, claims that he does not back out, isn't it fair for the rest of us to say, okay, where is your evidence? >> that started in july. the investigation is underway. you have numerous people in donald trump's orbit who have not only met with russian officials, but most importantly, i say this as a father, lied about those meetings that they had with russian officials. to me, meeting with them, fine, whatever, you had meetings. lying about them? now, all of a sudden, the red flags go up.

to say -- >> tucker: okay, but red flags are different than evidence. [laughs] i'm just income of the investigation is happening now. if this was turned around, and they were trying to accuse hillary clinton of this, and we were saying, wait a minute, i did say that. when he came out is that we are investigating, my view was of the time and now, you can't say you are investigating some of that explain and what it is and what evidence we have because that person can't defend himself against their amorphous charge. hillary suffered from it, trump suffering from it now, and it is all coming from one guy, jim comey. it makes me nervous. >> nobody has been prosecuted. nobody has been put to a grand jury. not yet anyway. >> tucker: [laughs] we'll see. congressman, things were joining us. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: director comey still offered his strongest offense yet of his conduct. he said his actions were compelled by then attorney general loretta lynch in her private meeting with bill clinton. >> the capper was, i'm not begging on the attorney general, loretta lynch, who i like very much, but her meeting with president clinton on that

airplane was the capper for me. i then sent, you know what, the department cannot by itself credibly end this. the best chance we have, if i do something, i never imagined, step away from them and tell them the american people, the heroes with the fbi found, here's what we think boy that offered us the best chance of the american people the the h believing in a system it was on the wrong way. that was a hard call for me to call the attorney general and say that. >> tucker: whether the director made the right call or not there was another call worth asking or not, why was he making my decision in the first place? to the fbi director simply have too much power for a single unelected man? a former u.s. attorney has watch this process from the beginning. he joins us now. thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: i don't think anyone wants to have concern about an fbi director, but is there a basis for concerns about this one? >> yes. i got mildly nauseous today

listening to his testimony one more time. james comey is a dangerous to the country. he surrounds himself with his own culture of personality, he believes that he is the righteous, last righteous man left standing. when he held that news conference on july 5th, and accuse hillary clinton and then exonerated her, he violated every rule and regulation of the department of justice. he should have been fired that day. he never should have been promoted to stay after the inauguration. he should be fired for the testimony that he is given over the last few months. that july 5th news conference was the original sin. from it, everything else followed. he says today, what would you have done in october the 28th? mr. director, i would have done nothing because i never would have held the july 5th news conference, which forced you to send two letters to conference. >> tucker: you have worked in and around doj for a lot of your life. expand to the rest about what was wrong with that july 5th press conference. >> he usurped the function of

prosecutors. he is a cop. he is the fbi director. he's not a prosecutor. he may be a lawyer but he is not. his job was to investigate, give the evidence to the department of justice, but and let them decide. he usurped the function of every prosecutor in the justice department, he should have been fired that day. >> tucker: why wasn't he? >> because loretta lynch was absolutely impotent as a result of having gone on that plane on the tarmac in phoenix, arizona. the entire department of justice was so frightened of jim comey because of the way they had politically mishandled the hillary clinton email server investigation, that they were afraid to contradict him. that is what you call a disaster in a government of accountability. he stole the work of the department of justice and a single day and they sat there and watched it. a pox on all of the houses. >> tucker: very quickly, can you discern a political agenda here?

>> not from him. the only agenda james comey has is a dream comey. he is his own a geographer. as i said, he believes he is the most righteous man and the world, and that he can do anything he wants. that testimony today was an example of how bizarre his personality is. >> tucker: certainly hard to understand from this perspective. thank you for that, joe digenova. we have a fox news alert for you. house republicans have just scheduled a vote tomorrow on their proposed replacement plan for obamacare. party leaders say saving a hub enough votes to pass this proposal. they're calling it the american health care act. of course, they were confident about the go, too, that boat was canceled the last minute to avoid defeat. this one could be different or not. we will keep you updated by the minute. ♪ a new study out of norway says that migrants are failing to integrate into the culture or economy of europe. we'll have katie hopkins on match and get a front row seat. also, american media insist they are diverse and confident enough

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the burger, the head job it's allowed, but one of the country's officials has proposed banning it for anyone in public appointment. that is very concerning to the president. if islamophobia continues to spread, the day will come where we will have to ask all women to wear headscarves." now, why would all austrian women be asked to do that? welcome x with the president, as an act of "solidarity with those who follow sharia inspired gender codes." sure enough, but if it laws my phobia continues to spread in austria, perhaps osprey and room and over next be asked to prohibit themselves from drying cars or using public swimming pools are going outside except in the company of male relatives all the solidarity of islam. a new academic paper released earlier this spring has some disparaging bruised stomach news about europe's experiment with mass migration. it looks at data, and i find so

that they jobs, immigrants from poor, and countries ultimately become less integrated over time. we have seen this in other countries as well. the longer immigrants expanded our way, the more likely they are to be dependent upon government welfare. katie hopkins is a global columnist for dailymail.com and she joins us tonight. as a surprise he? >> it doesn't surprise me at all. it is something we have seen here in britain for a long time. i have always maintained multiculturalism doesn't work. in fact, what we end up with as a nation of ghettos. i think that is true here in the u.k. i think what we see is that migrants arrive and typically comment since we have so many economic migrants who haven't actually suffered war or endured real hardship, that they really want to create a country within a country. they don't see islam as compatible with western culture, western values. actually, they would rather live

alone, separate from our society, certainly around 23% oh muslims have said that they would prefer and look to live under sharia law, rather than any laws that we have here. i certainly feel that when people talk about integration, for me, i always hear the word colonization, because i think that is what is happening across europe, we have opened our arms and our borders and told everyone to come and effectively take over. >> tucker: so, if you are going to do that, if you're going to bring people into your country in large numbers, don't you have some obligation to help them become part of your culture? countries in which no one has anything in common hat fall apart. word of the european authorities doing to inculcate their values into these new arrivals? >> absolutely. you would think that, wouldn't you? you would think that we would have some lessons on british values, help individuals integrate by showing them our ways, and enabling them to join. i see the combined opposite

happening actually. i see that we have to bow down to the cultures that come to join us. i believe that we spend far too much time tiptoeing around the cultures of the people that choose to join us, far too little time standing up for the cultures that have chosen, they have chosen to join. i think we need to stand up for our culture and asked people to integrate into it but i certainly don't see that happening. i think people are punished for looking islamaphobic if they try and stand up for british values. that is why things like having the flag or national flag, having the english flag, the george cross, that is seen now as being almost verging on racist potentially. certainly, islamaphobic, because we are not than embracing these new cultures that come to join us. >>t's more offensive to the british ruling class and british authorities to be anti-islam that it is to be anti-britain? >> absolutely.

i know the tick list of correct answers, but the liberal fascists want me to answer. i know what they'll approve of. i know what they like and that endless gushing sympathy for migrant, economic migrants. you saw with the westminster terror attack here, the very first media that we had off of that was that we had to look out for our muslim counterparts because they may be under some kind of attack following the terrorist attack on us. it is always that idea that we need to bow down to the culture that joins us and we never seem to stand up for the culture they have chosen to join. it is one of my big questions always, is if islam is so fantastic, why do muslim always seem to want to come to christian countries? it's a question that i never have gotten an answer to yet, tucker. >> tucker: that's a great question. an awful lot, a thousand years of history. you take it seriously and i appreciate it. katie, thank you for joining us.

>> thank you very much. >> tucker: today's journalists are in a bigger problem than they have ever been before. that is not speculation. research shows that. how can they hope to write fairly about a country they don't live in at a president who they unanimously despise? one of the questions we will one of the questions we will have the editor in chief of

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cities, hail from the same backgrounds, and most important, have pretty much the same ideas. recently, white house correspondents association jeff mason of reuters told us that journalists are still capable os fairly. watch. >> people standing in the briefing room who are telling us on camera, i am just here to report the facts, then, you read their twitter feed, and they say, "i hate company is a fascist takeover of the country." they are out in the open liberal. >> do you have a specific example? >> we have done like 15 shows o. >> tucker: know i'll look better how journalism has changed in the past 20 years that mccook made kingpin buzzfeed.com, one of the most vs of the world. who better to ask of the editor in chief of buzzfeed, fred smith? thanks for coming on. >> congrats on the show, the book, the memeification. >> tucker: i don't know what that means. [laughs] >> i don't know if the kingpin thing means either praised me

when i with the question, has and political proved what we have known was true for a long time? basically, everyone who runs america's news organizations come from the same world. according to politico, 90% of all online news employees 11 counties devoted that voted for hillary clinton. you could have guessed that but doesn't that lead to a certain kind of coverage? >> i think what he showed was the kind of tragedy that you have seen over the last 20 years of the collapse of these great news organizations all across the country. big regional papers in cleveland and chicago. i think that we certainly come our staff come as more diverse than it has ever been. we think about regional diversity, too. we just hired a political reporter in cleveland, henry gomez, partly because i think it is important to have people outside the beltway come outside new york. >> tucker: right. but it's not just new york's and washington and l.a. it's specifically liberal counties, places that voted for hillary clinton. it doesn't mean that all those employees voted for heather he could to come but actually they did.

survey after survey has shown it is overwhelmingly a one-party state. >> i think that politico piece of that that something like 75% of the people were registered independents or birds registered voters. >> tucker: but registration not necessarily a marker for anything. another way to look at it, the white house press corps has precisely zero registered republicans in it. maybe there are some republicans are floating around there, who knows. but it is still a much smaller number, i think it is safe to say, then the country at large. i think i doesn't actually represent the country it covers. rice and not a problem? >> in a way, the deeper problem, people like us, educated people who live in cities he wanted to go into journalism. there's a lot of people -- ways it's a homogenous group. the best you can do is try to be fair in your cover to look at the coverage. i think it was a great piece by jack, totally reasonable thing to observe. >> tucker: hold on. it's not exactly the same thing. but you wouldn't ever say something bad about racial or ethnic diversity?

he wouldn't say that my newsroom is 100% middle aged white man but we will do our best to understand perspectives different from ours. you would say, no, we will diversify this newsroom. why not do that with ideology? >> i am not -- i think conservatives -- i've always look for conservative political reporters. we stole our political editor from the great "washington free beacon." i think that is ideological. i don't agree with you on ideological diversity at all. >> tucker: there was his peace that was pretty unbelievable i buy one of your former employees that has gone on to be a pro trump activist online. he didn't start that way. but he recounts what it was like to work at buzzfeed. i'm quoting. "i was talking to my colleagues about the new justin bieber album and i said i love this album, i love him, he is my spirit animal. someone came up to me at buzzfeed and said, hey, bro, you can't say spirit animal, that is culturally appropriating native american culture. and it's not cool. he said, i didn't really think this happened. but it does happen i buzzfeed. but doesn't seem like a culture

of free inquiry to me. >> he was an employee of our los angeles entertainment division. i did actually try to report out that an actor because it sounds pretty preposterous. i don't think it happen. i was not there. more broadly, that story, he goes under the name baked alaska, his name is tim. i don't think he was somebody who was persecuted for his conservative beliefs. this was somebody who obviously did not have a great experience at buzzfeed. left buzzfeed, for a while hung out in the pro-trump movement, then, started tweeting about how jews control the media and they got talked out of the pro-trump media. >> tucker: he may be a wacko. but i am still pretty synthetic. i don't know anything about him beyond this. this sounds right to me having been around us a lot. he said it got a lot of dirty looks and people stopped inviting me to meetings when i said i was voting for trump. it was like i was a heretic. nobody wanted to talk to me. other opinions about me change. that sounds right to me.

how many trump voters you think you have on staff at buzzfeed? >> i don't know. i don't ask people about their ideology. i agree with you. i don't think there are a lot of journalists voting for trump. but again, you just told a story, i don't think that happened that he was left out of meetings where his ideology. that certainly doesn't happen in our news operation. >> tucker: you don't think that if someone came out and said, by the way, i i mean even travel call and i think abortion is murder and i'm voting for donald trump, and they would say it's cool. another diverse number of our staff. you think they would say that? >> i think people are very respectful of the conservatives. we are journalists. we yell at each other all the time. but nobody would -- we are not tricking pilots. >> tucker: of course. if you said i'm going to get my concealed carry permits, then come on saturday, i am going to go protest the planned parenthood because i think jesus wants me to you, do you really think that people wouldn't say, this guy is a freak and i don't want him here? >> the question is whether i will be shown for going on your

show. i think it will be all right. >> tucker: [laughs] you are the editor. there's nothing they can do. >> there's nothing they can do. >> tucker: behind their back, they are saying, why is he on with a dangerous authoritarian tucker carlson? you see the point, though. >> i'm not arguing with you about the way people vote, people just don't get into the business of reporting, i never did, because we are political activists. it's not the first, second, third thing on our minds. my first gig was at a conservative newspaper in new york. i also worked for a left-leaning nearest paper, i worked for politico that has no particular ideology. i came in because they wanted to report on stories. i think it is true of most reporters. political activists who in good faith accused journalists are being activists are basically projecting. they say that i am primarily motivated by politics, and each journalist must also be. that is not the newsroom conversation. in think any of -- 's. when i think there are some exceptions. i think you are generally right. the problem is that pro-diversity activist always .2, that is an unconscious bias, taking your assumptions with

you, and not examining them. that is why employers and particularly you, spencer much time trying to "diversify" the way your newsroom looks. and i am saying, are you making the same effort to bring diversity of experience? we both know you are not. my question is why? >> we think a lot about hiring people both who are based outside the big cities and who come from a wide variety of backgrounds. i don't know why you think that is not the case because it certainly is. i do think that matters. >> tucker: really? >> one of the things he really see, one of the places of come through most clearly in media, his tv coverage. this show, the hbo shows that get all the coverage of "the new york times," then come a lot of the media are just not necessarily the shows that e widely viewed, which might be "csi." that is a place in a broad sense, we think about trying to make sure we are writing about the culture that people pay attention to. for sure, i think most journalists are college-educated. most journalists have a certain set of experiences that leave them with huge blind spots. >> tucker: last question, have

you ever heard anyone at buzzfeed to say that i think abortion is murder and i don't like it should be legal? a lot of the country feels that way. >> do i have colleagues who oppose abortion rights? absolutely. >> tucker: out abortion rights. abortion itself. >> absolutely. >> tucker: good for you. then, things are coming on. two physicians of detroit are facing federal charges where they illegally mutilated young girls. we'll talk to a defender of female genital mutilation. not

>> tucker: the fbi director's testimony today mostly focused on russia and his behavior during the election. but it was not the only topic. director comey also reference the fbi's investigation of two physicians accused of illegally performing female genital mutilation on young girls in detroit. >> this past week, for the first time since congress passed the statute making it a crime in the united states to engage in female genital mutilation, to mutilate little girls come it is

been a felony in the united states in made the first case last week against doctors in michigan for doing this terrifying thing to young girls all across the country with our partners in the department of homeland security, we brought a case against two doctors for doing this to children. >> tucker: she choose to undergo what she calls female circumcision as an adult. she is also an anthropologist. in effect, defends the process, saying western society is wrong to call it a essentially oppressive. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: i will concede, this subject makes me so uncomfortable that i don't like to do segments on it. but i also think it is really important because i think it is so horrifying that something like this is perpetrated on young girls. you seem like a reasonable person and a well-educated person. it's amazing to me that anyone could defend this. how would you defend this? >> when you open just now, you

said that i defend fgm. and i don't defend fgm. i don't defend mutilation. i would never defend the mutilation of anyone. i don't identify with the term fgm, with the term mutilation. i don't know anyone in my family who does or my community. and from over 25 years of research i have done on the field, i say the great majority of women who are affected by what i call female circumcision practices do not see themselves as mutilated, so, i think we need to interrogating how we use that terminology. >> tucker: i almost want to specify what it don't want to refer to what it refers to because it it is upsetting. it is the removal of a key female organ. this is done to girls who can't give consent. it affects them for life. >> tucker, this is why we need to have a discussion on what it is. when we use the term female

genital mutilation, automatically, a certain image comes to mind. an image that is really been put out there for over 30, 40 years. in the media, the mainstream me, through efforts and women's groups. it is the idea of the most horrific type of procedure, which is type three, who classifies this, type three in fibrillation. it involves the suturing, the summing up of the majora. this is a very rare procedure that is confined to a specific part of sub sahara africa, the horn of africa. it makes up less than 10% of the entire prevalence of the procedures in sub-africa and across various parts of the world. we need to understand that over 90% of what we call female circumcision involves what who classifies as types one and that is one anb, and types two, a and

b as well. for instance, the case that has become quite talked about in recent weeks with the arrests of the doctors, the female doctor, dr. in michigan, they their community, they are shiite muslim, quiet community here in united states, they are communiy performs, first of all, they perform circumcision on boys, we'll get to that in a moment. and they perform type one a circumcision, which is a nick of the of the clitoris. >> tucker: that is not illegal at what i. what i understand, the removal of the entire female organ without the consent of the chil. you want her apprentice as an adult. there is a difference between making a decision to do something like that and having that decision made for you that cannot be reversed as a child. that seems to me, probably the

worst thing you can do to a child. >> okay, so, back to the case of the doctor who is now in prison awaiting trial. she is accused, she is charged of fgm, mutilating a 7-year-old girl. she performed mix, type ia to the clitoral foreskin. >> tucker: i don't know that it is true. >> would happen. if the act of a set of actually made that term female genital mutilation, they have conflated involve these different -- >> tucker: some of those activists are very victims of e practices themselves. they save mrs. affected their life and their happiness and their ability to experience happiness in a profound way i do totally barbaric. i guess i just don't buy that it's a different culture. so is throwing widows on the pyre. it's still wrong. >> i absolutely agree with you, tucker. there is one thing i want to correct.

you said it removes a vital part of the female genital anatomy. is it okay if i actually say with that part is? there is a misconception about what actually, what the surgeries entail. there is no female circumcision procedure that removes the clitoris of a woman. it's absolutely impossible to remove a woman's clitoris without telling her. what we have exposes a tiny fraction of what is an expansive organ -- >> tucker: i will stop you there. before we get to into it. let me just say, would you concede, because there are a lot of women who feel mutilated by this, this is not -- this is being led by women. maybe we should let adults make this decision and not a pose on 6-year-old? is that fair? >> here's what i think about it. there are a lot of men who have experienced male circumcision, who say that this is mutilation. in fact, in the courtroom, when the doctor appeared in court,

they were protesters outside. there weren't anti-fgm -- >> tucker: the son of the argument for a female circumcision. >> you are saying to me that there are opponents to female circumcision. >> tucker: as you know, i don't want to get into the circumcision debate on men. there is research that shows that there are profound medical advantages are not. there is no research that shows there are any medical advantages to female genital mutilation. >> first of all, that research is contested. there is a lot of research out there that says yes, there is harm, there is risk. there are over 100 deaths each year -- >> tucker: that's a separate show. i am open minded. what you are doing -- >> you are saying we are abusing girls. >> tucker: that's like saying we can't ban weed because beer is legal. >> you are excepting that it okay to perform a much more intensive or invasive procedure on a boy -- >> tucker: i am just saying this is bad for little girls. >> i think it if we except in american society that we do

remove, we do remove the on boys, we practice the cutting here in the u.s. on boys, then, it should not be impossible to understand that there are cultures in our society that practice while certain people are now calling -- >> tucker: i just don't want that in my culture, my society. >> it's okay to cut boys in our society? >> i'm just saying i don't want this. >> in our culture, we don't discriminate. we have gender egalitarian surgery. we do not discriminate. >> tucker: [laughs] we are out of time. i feel like we should finish the hour. i would probably die of embarrassment by then. thank you very much for coming on with that perspective. a student group at uc santa cruz is occupying an administrative building right now. they say they won't leave the school until the demands are met. we'll go live inside the building and talk to one of ofe building and talk to one of ofe if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply.

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>> tucker: this is a fox news alert. a group of students of the university of california and santa cruz has seized control of the administration building there and is refusing to leave until school officials meet their list of demands. this was organized by the schoot alliance. their demands include painting the schools rosa parks house red, black, and green, the colors of black liberation. imposing mandatory diversity training on all new students and transferors. the cochair of the black student alliance, one of the leaders of the takeover. joining us now from inside to be administration building. is that right? is that where you are? >> that we are in the building now. >> tucker: you are in the building now. i have a list of your demands that you have written to the school, and one of them is changing the paint color on the outside of the rosa parks african-american themed house. why is that so important you?

>> housing on this campus is important to black students in general. visibility, we are less than 2%, is very important. having that red, black, and greenhouse in the the middle of stephenson college which is a predominantly white serving college, as a matter of symbolism and visibility that black students are on this campus, and we do exist, we do pay to go here just like our counterparts. we do deserve to be seen here on this campus. >> tucker: okay. do you want the school to change the interior decorating at all? just the outdoor colors? >> the interior decorating is already -- has many different african-american or black caribbean cultural paintings and diaspora paintings inside. but from the outside, no one knows what is inside the house. it's very silencing to the black students who do live there. especially at stephenson college.

>> tucker: right. that's not your only demand. but that is one of the key demands from this list that i have and you are doing a lot to get this. why not just painted yourself? pick a saturday and painted the colors you want? >> because that is vandalism and black students are often arrested and often sometimes shot down by police and we do not want to put ourselves at that type of risk. >> tucker: okay. another one of your demands is for housing guarantees, i'm quoting now, "for all black caribbean identified students." so, housing just for african-american or african students. that sounds a lot like the segregation that we read about, where schools 50 years ago had special dorms for african-americans. buys a different? >> yeah. i think it is very different. we are asking for housing guarantee for black students who live in the rosa parks african-american themed house. were not asking for only black students, we are asking for black students to have a guarantee to live in a house come at the university advertises, as a house that is

meant for black students. currently, about six to seven black students live in the rosa parks african-american themed house. we are trying to ensure that black students who do decide to come to uc santa cruz know that they have somewhere where they will be accepted, where they can live peacefully among whoever else chooses to live there with the shared common goals. >> tucker: so, with the guarantees also go to white students or samoan students are korean students? with a be excluded from the guarantees? >> many students, we don't speak for the white students, the samoan students, or the korean students. if they want a guarantee to live in a certain house, they are more than welcome to fight for that, we can support that another race. right now, we speak for the african black caribbean students, who are struggling on this campus and eat housing. while there is a house that is supposed to meant to protect them and live as of the saved space, that is currently only being occupied by five black bodies. >> tucker: how long are you going to stay inside the administration building? has anyone tried to take you

out? are they just waiting for you to leave? >> we are staying here until our demands are met. we have no intentions on leaving. we have gathered a lot of support, through social media, a lot of people have dropped off food and different resources and supplies for us. our allies are here and support. we are here today, the administration has reached out to us. we are meeting with our chairperson at 4:00 p.m. tomorrow. we are staying here until our demands are met. that is pretty much. matt, no option, not questionable. we are asking for four symbol demands, basic demands. >> tucker: i am sure they will cater to all of the demands, including the paint colors. imari, things for joining us tonight. >> have a good night. >>

>> tucker: in the news of the weird tonight, a new york high school is going to war against the printed word. according to "the new york post" which first printed this story,

life sciences at secondary school in manhattan is throwing away all of its books. textbooks, novels, sat study guides, if they are on paper, they are getting tossed. among the books headed to the landfill, romeo and juliet and a streetcar named desire. no word on whether fahrenheit 451 is getting thrown out as well. the purge is being made at the behest of the principles who view physical books as agent relics and believe that more advanced technologies are needed for academic success, there's no reason to believe that that is true in fact there's some evidence to the contrary. the school doesn't have enough computers to replace the missing books. students who are struggling are told to fish relevant textbooks from the garbage pile and stick them home like archer band. don't like like.

that's well below the cities low average, the first instinct is to destroy the books, america's cultural revolution continues. ♪ >> greg: hey i'm greg gutfeld, with "the five" ." has this been painful. >> has this been painful, i've gotten all kinds of rocks thrown at me and this has been really hard. i think i've done the right thing at each turn appeared to >> greg: here's the big news for today's senate hearings on fbi oversight, hilary still lost. trump is still here and she is riding the rails like a carefree hobo seeking friendly faces and