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the facebook, condoleezza rice coming up in 20 minutes. shannon, have an awesome weekend. we'll see you monday. "happening now" starts right no now. >> jon: republicans claim a victory in their long crusade to dismantle obamacare, but the celebration could be short-lived as their health care bill heads for an uncertain future in the senate. hello and welcome to "happening now" on this friday. >> melissa: i melissa francis and for jenna lee. many supporters confessed their not sure what the real impact on americans will be. president trump took a victory lap while democrats said watch out. >> congratulations.
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>> big day. >> you have every provision of this bill tattooed on your forehead. you will glow-in-the-dark on this. >> jon: republicans are already talking about alterations or starting from scratch. senator rand paul says he is a "no" vote for now because the house measure doesn't go far enough. >> i want to be supportive, i want to repeal obamacare, but i don't want to have to vote for a federal program that will be hundreds of billions of dollars paid to insurance companies. i'm all for capitalism, but i'm not a big fan of crony capitalism. >> melissa: just this morning, new jobs numbers, 211,000 across the u.s. last month. we have live fox team coverage.
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we begin with john roberts. >> nothing from the white house yet on the jobs report. we understand the labor department will release something very shortly. the president not at the white house today, not in new york city either. he is spending the weekend, including today, at his golf course out in new jersey. the president tweeting just a short time ago, rather than causing a big disruption in new york city, i will be working out of my home in bedminster new jersey. the president also weighing in on the next health care debate, tweeting big win in the house, very exciting. when everything comes together, with the inclusion of phase two, we will have truly great health care. before the president gets to phase two, he has to get phase one through the senate. senator bill cassie of louisiana, he says that process could take weeks. it's likely that the bill will
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be substantially changed. no one knows at this point if what comes out of the senate will pass muster in the house when the two bodies get together and meet in the conference committee. tom price hopes all 100 senators give health care reform very careful consideration. listen here. >> i would urge every single senator, not just on the republican side of the aisle, every single senator to engage in this process. this is incredibly important to get right. as i mentioned before, the current system is failing folks in the individual and small group markets, that has to be changed. >> senator bernie sanders shouted out over health care. not for the bill that passed the house yesterday, but for the president said to the israeli prime minister when the two met and a bilateral meeting last night about australia's health care system. listen here. >> i shouldn't say this, because you have better health care than we do.
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we're going to have great health care very soon. >> better health care than we do, the catch is that australia has a universal single-payer health care system, much like canada. it prompted bernie sanders to tweet, thank you mr. trump for admitting that universal health care is a better way to go. i'll be sure to quote you on the floor of the senate. in order to do the event here yesterday afternoon at the white house, the president had to push back the bilateral meeting with the prime minister of australia. ed was set for about four or 5:00 in the afternoon. he delayed that until he got to the u.s. and intrepid last night shortly after 7:00. he said he doesn't mind that -- he knows how difficult it is to get things through politically, so he didn't mind the president taking some time. the two leaders also saying that their relationship is on a very firm footing. president trump last night
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suggesting that their phone call is difficult when they had it together on generate 28th. the president did allow that the phone call got a bit testy at points on the two were disagreeing on a couple of issues, including what to do about the refugees that australia has been holding in their detention centers that president obama promised could come to the united states. >> melissa: sounds may be a little awkward, but it went well overall. thank you. >> jon: australians are very mellow. the prime minister didn't mind waiting. a fox team coverage continues with doug elway -- the role that insurance companies will play. the >> to what insurers really think this bill that passed last night, you need to understand what insurance is. benjamin franklin started the first insurance company protecting home owners against fire. he turns people who owned wooden
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houses more than those who are owned brick houses. think of what it would cost to be wrecked an uninsured and went to the insurer and asked to buy a policy. they would laugh at you. that's the issue with covering pre-existing conditions. few insurers want to talk about it. why? because they are being painted as the bad guys. >> this is a situation where they can't win. under the current law, they are departing the marketplaces, there are five states where there's only one insurer. premiums are going up, so they are losing there. they can't make any money. if they way and on what they don't like, they're not going to be happy with it, they'll be under fire from the other side. it's a no-win situation. >> will maytag let pre-existing conditions, we are talk about people who are already sick. you're not actually providing those people with insurance, you're simply paying for their health care. in many cases, very expensive
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health care. someone has to foot the bill for the cost. the irony of yesterday's passage is that republicans are gravitating and embracing solutions that establish high-risk pools, leaving healthy people from the burden of pain with expensive care of sick people. reaction now turns towards the senate. look towards arguments defending their compassion towards the sick with democrats attacking the gop's lack of compassion and insurers laying low. avoiding the fund. >> jon: a bit of pipe partisanship still lacking. >> melissa: lawmakers on both sides of the aisle were sella burning after the health care bill, although for slightly different reasons. bill is passed and without objection to motion reconsider.
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>> melissa: republican lawmakers cheering the first big legislative victory of the trump administration while democrats were singing a different tune. take a listen. >> hey, hey, hey, goodbye. >> melissa: so much decorum, what adults. they are confident that republicans will pay a steep price. u.s. news editor for "the wall street journal" is here. you're shaking your head. it is kind of funny. three publicans weren't much better, they played the rocky name song. now we move on to the senate. the more looming question, because they get to almost start over. what'll be the same, what will
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change? >> some senators do want to start over, they want to start their own bill. the main way to get it out of the senate is to use what's called reconciliation, which means it has to be a budget tax and spending kind of bill and other policy issues shouldn't be there. in order to do that, you would expect things that one over the freedom caucus to allow states to opt out to change the rules on pre-existing conditions and allow more flexibility. those of the kinds of things that might not fit in a reconciliation bill in the senate. >> melissa: that was major. how big of a deal is it? >> that's what one over more conservative members of the house. when a senate bill has to be reconciled and they get these things to pair up, we might get back to another internal g.o.p. debate over that variation. >> melissa: if you try and look at it from a math perspective. i'm trying to see what is going to be more economically efficient, what actually gets paid for here.
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the interesting idea of putting people together who are already sick and trying to put them in one pool and then target a lot of the government money at that, do you think that works? >> there's a lot of debate over whether high-risk pools to get the job done. the traditional insurance model, you're trying to balance the young and healthy with the second older who require more health care and you need a balance there. how much money does it cost? is not very predictable. they talked about in the house version, $8 billion, as a way of helping to offset pre-existing condition costs. that may not go all the way. >> melissa: there was still a lot of money that was targeted from the government subsidies and they were saying at all kind of mixes together to target that group. maybe you take the younger healthier people and you only force them to buy things they want my catastrophic care, they may actually buy it as opposed
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to with obamacare where they didn't even pay attention and wouldn't be in the system at all. >> that's the balance they were trying to figure out in the house and the senate will have to grapple with as well, which is trying to for some accountability on the part of the consumer and also making sure the states have the opportunity to adjust to their specific situations. on the other hand, many governors are worried that the money may not go far enough in their circumstances. how do you balance those two questions? we won't really know. >> melissa: before i run of time, i want to ask you -- adding 211,000 jobs last month, a break in the slump that marked the first three months of the year. on employment dropped to 4.4%, that was the lowest level in a decade. i also saw some upward rage pressure. >> this was a really solid jobs
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report. only 79,000 jobs are created, we back to the 200,000 in above rate. when you talk about that unemployment rate at 4.4%, that is starting to look like full employment. we haven't seen wages take up very much. if you start to see the labor market tightening like this, you can start to see more wage pressure in the future which is a double-edged sword, but will bring wages into more in line what would you expect. >> melissa: we need some wage pressure out there. earnings go up, spending goes up, the only other thing that made me nervous about their seaport was that we see -- it's stubbornly low. >> that's near the lowest levels and four decades. part of the workforce is aging out so when you look at the more critical 25-59 range, you see
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participation has been going up. it's a mixed bag in there, but definitely not a perfect employment situation just yet. >> melissa: thank you, appreciate your insight. >> jon: hillary clinton starting a new political action committee, what does it say about her political future? plus, as the votes were tallied, the networks unleashed a wave of criticism. do the critics have a point? >> this is a great plan. i think it will get even better and this is a repeal and replace of obamacare, make no mistake about it. make no mistake with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
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ed henry joins us live with that from washington. >> remember hillary clinton herself signal this just a few days ago at a q and a where she said i am now part of the resistance. in addition to what you said about raising money now to give out to congressional candidates for the 2018 midterms, we are told by her advisors, she also wants to fund some of the left-wing groups that are raising cane, going against president trump and his agenda. as first reported by ask eos, this is something that's not sitting well with democrats. as a remember, earlier this week when she made these first public comments in a long time, she came up with a whole series of excuses about why she lost last year. >> it wasn't a perfect campaign. there is no such thing. i was on the way to winning until a combination of jim
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comey's letter on october 28th, and russian wikileaks raised doubts in the mind of people who were and trying to vote for me, but got scared off. >> she got pushed back from that sentiment from top democrats who said it wasn't the fbi director james comey who told her not to campaign in battlegrounds like wisconsin. comey himself said he was faced with a very difficult choice when all of a sudden, thousands of emails i had been forwarded by houma aberdeen to her husband, anthony weiner, some containing classified information suddenly landed on the lap of the fbi just days before the election. comey suggested that they could not prove criminal intent in terms of the aberdeen emails. even a democratic senator,
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richard blumenthal suggested this still could be investigated. >> if there was classified information improperly passed to a person unauthorized, naturally it's a crime without knowing what the intentions were. whether it should have been prosecuted and it still may be, potentially. it's not outside the statute of limitations as far as i know. it's one that the department of justice is going to have to decide. >> a reminder that while hillary clinton wants to step back out here, she's got a book coming up in a couple of months and wants to launch this new pac. >> jon: fascinating stuff. ed henry from washington, thank you. the speed to an agreement to de-escalate the violence in syria signed by russia, turkey, and iran but the u.s. was shut out. details on the plan to ban planes.
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and of course, i even want to think the media. >> jon: those president trump celebrating his first major legislative victory, ease and as you heard, thinking the media. the mainstream media not exactly returning the favor. coverage of what happened yesterday, let's bring in tammy bruce. and lynn swede. thanks all of you for being her here. lynn, on the major evening news programs last night, abc, cbs, nbc, all of them told on the fact that this thing has passed, but nobody knows how many people are going to be thrown off the insurance roles and so forth. that was a big focus. it's as if the president managed to do something really bad in his legislative victory. >> i don't agree necessarily that that's the interpretation. this is a work in progress and there's a lot of questions to be
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had. that seems a reasonable question, especially as this issue heads to the senate, it's unlikely that the senate is going to embrace what the house passed yesterday. this is the coverage that is routine in a course of any big complicated piece of legislation. i think because this is so serious for so many people, the focus here is on the policy, how it's going to affect people and their families, rather than showing a celebration at the white house, which is certainly part of the story. i think the information of what people care about, will my plan be available, will my coverage be more expensive and will my deductibles be more or less? if i have pre-existing conditions, will i be covered? health insurance that's -- it's
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something that's very personal. >> jon: tammy, when you think back seven years to when president obama signed his law into law with a little kid standing next to him at the white house, the coverage seemed to be universally laudatory and of course, there were the promises about keeping your doctor. >> if the coverage today stood on its own, that would seem like fair reporting, but it's not. and the context of what has happened, the media was laudatory. they approached it as a monumental change, something that was going to enhance the value people's lives, it was meant to lift up people who did not have insurance and every thing was going to be great and everyone will have a unicorn in their garage. we know that none of that happen. they also carried the claims of the president at the time that you can keep your doctor, you could keep your plan and your hospital. we now know that all of those
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things were actually contrived, deliberate, misleading statements, specifically knowing, much like the iran deal, that whatever they tell the media it would be moved. when you look at the context of what the american people have been told, it's very difficult for them and this is why trust of the media has gone down so much. it's difficult for them to trust the nature of what's being said. whether you agree with obamacare or what the republicans just died, information that you can trust that you can draw your own conclusion is imperative. the legacy media here has failed us, not just now, but it proves that if there was any doubt of the coverage of both these events, i think it proves it quite clearly. >> jon: real quickly, on a sort of unrelated issue, as you heard president trump in that opening remark, he attacks the media time and time again, but
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yet the news programs, viewership is up substantially during the first months, the subscriptions of "the new york times," "washington post," those are up, isn't he actually helping the very media that he savages? >> yeah, but there is a more important point i want to make. what happened yesterday was not the signing of a law. it was the first of multiple, let's not compare a bill signing for a law, whether or not we agree with it. one thing to watch for, president trump at the white house yesterday made a pledge that your premiums would go down and/or deductibles will will go down. let's see if that pledge comes to fruition for so many people out there who rely on and need health insurance. >> at that question is an important question. >> jon: that worth watching. tammy bruce, lynn swede,
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thank you. >> melissa: the rogue regime accuses the cia of trying to assassinate kim jong-un. plus, how delta airlines is responding after a heated confrontation with a family of one of their flights goes viral. >> . ...far, far away. feel less hungry with the natural fiber in clinically... ...proven meta appetite control. from metamucil.
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>> melissa: fox news alert, bombshell allegations from north korea that the u.s. conspired with south korea to assassinate kim jong-un. state run media describing the alleged plot in detail claiming an involved file chemical weapons. admiral robert matter is a retired four-star admiral. thanks for joining us. this plot as it's described, first of all, it sounds like it popped up in an interview where they get close to him and used the agent and it also sounds very similar to what happened to his half-brother. explain this to us. >> this is simply an outrageous statement by an individual who has a long, long, long list of
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outrageous statements and outrageous actions. i'm certainly no psychiatrist or psychologist, but i can assure you that this individual would have no position in a ship that i would serve in. >> melissa: he's done a lot of outrageous things, set a lot of outrageous things, what about his actions? what are they telling you right now? >> 's actions are getting to the point where the international community just can't stand it. the idea that he may have long-range missiles and potentially nuclear warheads to be able to fire at our allies in asia and potentially the united states of america it's totally unacceptable. >> melissa: meanwhile russia and turkey reaching an agreement to establish a de-escalation zone and syria, designated areas that would be closed to syrian aircraft as well as coalition military planes, including the u.s. does this have a chance of working?
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what do you think? >> we can't take this in isolation. our government state defense the administration are trying to work and make some sort of concerted effort so we can work together to establish a stable government in syria. this is just one item. i wouldn't take it and isolatio isolation. >> melissa: do you think president trump would sign off on it? would he be left out of the process, what he -- could we trust of confirmation that's going on in the area? >> i would hesitate to even address the question without having the context of an overall agreement. this cannot be done in isolation. >> melissa: it's a big problem, a lot to work on there. admiral, thank you.
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>> jon: delta air lines is apologizing now and offering compensation to a thick california family. the couple traveling home with two toddlers from hawaii say they were forced off a flight and even threatened with jail after refusing to give up one of their seats. william la jeunesse has the story from los angeles. >> delta oversold this flight. delta demanded this passenger gave up a seat claiming incorrectly that the federal policy banned 2-year-olds from a car seat. mandating the kid had to be in a parent's the entire flight. when she refused, delta said they would be thrown in jail and their children will be placed in foster care.
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>> the faa strongly encourages you to secure your child in a car seat, even delta policy says the same thing that it should be an approved safety seat. eventually, they agreed to move the kid, but they say it's too late and they must leave the flight. she said at this point, you're on your own. >> he lost. the next day, delta has apologized and offered an unspecified amount of money. >> jon: i'm going to start a new airline called nice airlines and make a ton of money by just being nice to people.
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what a story. >> melissa: can i invest in your airline? >> jon: sure. thanks. the summer driving season is a most here. >> melissa: gas prices are dropping. what could that mean for you and your wallet? a live report next. a mystery of the deep, possibly unlocked. a discovery that could go back to the discovery of america. astronauts help to find it. wow. ♪ there's nothing more important to me than my vacation. so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. they offer free cancellation if my plans change. visit booking.com. booking.yeah. what's the story behind green mountain coffee and fair trade? let's take a flight to colombia. this is boris calvo.
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>> that anchor is from christopher columbus. >> jon: that's from a new discovery channel special of the undersea discovery of the ships anchored that may have come from one of christopher columbus' ships. check this out, it's how they found it in the first place that's really out of this world. the late astronaut, gordon cooper first spotted what he thought were anomalies on the ocean floor as he orbited the earth half a century ago. he created maps that he then passed along to darren mitchell. he joins me now with the rest of this amazing story. we had you on a couple of weeks ago, darrell. you found a number of shipwreck sites based on gordon cooper's map from space which was astounding all by itself to me.
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tell us about the sinker you found. >> we've located a period anchor that we believe dates back to the early colonial period. it carries all the hallmarks of an anchor that is from that actual period. we've also done some data and research and we've traced stories of the fact that columbus and his fleet were traversing through that area in that they had lost several ships in that region on a second and third voyage after the first really famous voyage of discovery of america. we believe we found something and currently historic. >> jon: we are showing the general area where it was found. you dated this anchor as to being somewhere between 1492-1550. how do you get that specific?
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>> luckily enough, we were able to bring up the anchor and we did some measurements and by the curvature of the anchor, we are able to determine that the anchor was hand forged. only the earwere hand forged any we deduced that it came from the earliest colonial period, such as christopher columbus his fleet. >> jon: melissa is pretty impressed. this anchor is also bent, what does that tell you? >> and had a really violent -- based on some of the stories we heard, based on trying to save one of his ships, we believe this anchor may be associated with that story whereby it was found in an area on the columbus
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trail. they deployed the anchor, it was fighting back and forth, because the ring broke and/or the line attach the ship broke and basically, the anchor laid there format close to 500 years and it's pointing in the direction of hopefully more material. we are still under the investigative stage and we're looking for more material that would relate to so we could substantiate our beliefs that this came from the earliest colonial period. >> jon: the original fleet, the pinta and the nino, it's believed that this anchor may have come from one of those two ships that were part of the columbus fleet that discovered the new world. >> they don't come with stamps that say this anchor came off of the pinta or the niño, but we believe it to be from a later
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voyage of the columbus fleet. it wasn't only one trip that they made through the area. they made three or four trips through the area, so we believe it's from one of the probably later trips, not the initial trip, so we're still under investigation, we are still trying to collect data, it's an ongoing process so we can substantiate our beliefs. we are very positive and what we believe and i'm very excited and i can't wait to reveal more. >> jon: i know that you found a lot more besides the anchor and i can talk to you all bowed -- i can talk to about it all day. thank you. >> melissa: we are approaching the summer driving season, but instead of guys pressing going up, they're actually dropping. according to aaa, the national averages $2.36 a gallon. how are countries owing to
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respond when they meet later this month? he joins us live from the chicago merkel exchange. what's the prediction? what's everyone saying? >> the guys and gals in the pits, the wisdom is that when they meet, they will can any of the cuts they put in place which was theoretically going to drive prices up, but they want to extend them any farther than they already have. i don't know, we could see lower gas prices. why should you care about the price of oil because you care about the price of gas. if you look, it's amazing. as a report, and the last couple of weeks, the last month, for the kinds of gas prices that just the time of the year when gas prices historically rise. we are down in the last month, 1.7%. the last two weeks, we are down almost 5%. that is almost unheard of this time of year because now is when the refiners switch over to those summertime blends that cost them more money. they charge the gas station more money so theoretically, they
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should charge you more money, but the price of oil now what it is, gas prices are going down and they could go, we are told, even lower. good time to drive. >> melissa: it's great news for consumers and sometimes there's head and bad news and it. the gas prices are down because they think that the economy is weak, that's not the case right now. >> if there is about demand. >> melissa: thank you, great stuff. >> jon: coming up, how a company built entirely of veterans and their spouses is giving military family some help that they navigate the challenges of relocating from one base to another. also today, america mourns the death of a true hero and patrio patriot. air force colonel leo thorson is passed away this week after battling cancer. and f1 oh five pirate, his parents before the paperwork was
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>> jon: let's find out what's ahead on "outnumbered." sandra and harris, what do you have? the >> harris: it's a major victory for president trump as he helped seal the deal on the gop's health care bill with. can he work that same kind of magic to get it through the senate? >> sandra: president trump is the most talked about president and late night tv history. the stunning comparisons and whether this is more mainstream media bias. >> harris: #oneluckyguy. "outnumbered" at the top of the hour will be sitting right next to me. >> jon: see you then. right now, there's a new online community to tell you about call millie. it's giving military families a much needed hand as they begin the navigation process. joining us now, ken robbins and director of content, kelly arti artis. it's a website, but it's more than that.
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>> we provide resources for moving families as well as some information about the base and schools. basically all the nitty-gritty details. >> jon: the numbers are incredible for military families that move. >> it's a huge pain point and we want to help reduce some of the stress and anxiety that's caused by moving. >> jon: my son was army and moved a couple of times, but you get the impression from the civilians that the army takes care of everything. >> that's a big misconception. the moving truck they do take care of, but finding the house, the neighborhood you live in, that's left to you. what surprises a lot of people is that most military families don't live on the base, they need help finding resources to make sure they pick the right
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neighborhoods, schools and houses. >> jon: if you're up in washington state and your transfer to colorado, the army -- the military doesn't give you all kinds of money to make a bunch of flights back and forth to find yourself a house for instance. >> know, a lot of people aren't comfortable with renting. we offer resources to be able to help you have two feet on the ground and those spouses who need that information to go and check out a house for you. we have real estate agents who are military spouses and veterans we personally vetted and they can help as well. >> jon: that's an interesting side of the business. agent hero, we called it. >> is the transfer process and involves trust. who better folks to trust that military spouses who are not
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>> melissa: we will see you back here in in an hour. >> jon: "outnumbered" starts right now. >> sandra: fox news alert, the sweet taste of victory. president trump celebrating a big win after the house passes a revamped bill to repeal and replace obamacare. this is just around one as a battle now moves to the senate. this is "outnumbered." i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, meghan mccain, fox business networks of dagen mcdowell, and today's #oneluckyguy, lieutenant colonel michael walt waltz. he is outnumbered and has a long resume and an excellent one at that. >> michael: thank you, one lucky colonel. >> harris: you are on the couch with usin
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