facebook.com/seanhannity, @seanhannity on twitter. let us know what you think. that's all the time we have tonight. sorry we didn't have time for the hannity hotline. see you back here tomorrow nigh night. ♪ >> tucker: could the investigation to hillary clinton's email server be reopened? our catherine herridge has some new reporting on that question tonight. good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we'll look at that potential political earthquake in just a minute, but first, democrats in congress and their surrogates in the press spent all day muttering darkly about russian conspiracies and demanding an independent investigation into whether putin secretly ran donald trump's presidential campaign. they howled and they barked and they did their best impressions of grave concern, but always at the center of it, that phrase, independent investigation. there is a reason you kept hearing those words. independent investigation does

not mean a policy prescription. it's a talking point that wass formulated by strategists, disseminated by operatives and faithfully repeated on television by hacks who haveac precisely zero interest in independence or investigations except when they're politically convenient. the whole idea is a sham, partisanship posing as patriotism. let's take it seriously for a second, anyway, just for fun. democrats say they want to make certain that any russian investigation remains above politics. does allowing sitting members of congress to appoint an investigator make the process more or less political? come on, dumb question. and by the way, who would investigate it? can you think of a single person who would be acceptable to both sides in washington? in this political environment, no way. god himself would get hit with attack ads if he got that job. independent investigation wouldn't restore public trust in government even more than the warren commission settled doubts about the kennedy assassination. it's absurd. but happily, we don't need another investigation.ut we already have one.

it's being run by the fbi which despite jim comey's well-deserved firing still exists and still considered the most professional investigative body in the world, even more so now that comey has gone. unless you think the entire fbin has been corrupted by donald trump during his four months in office, if you think that,nt please seek professional help or switch to msnbc. they are the team for which job there is no other. that would be obvious if the point of the exercise were to discover the truth, but it's not the point of the exercise and it never has been the point. this is a political operation. don't let them tell you otherwise. speaking of investigations. thanks to director comey, last year the fbi ended a massive investigation of hillary clinton's email server without charging a single person. fox chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has some information on how that failure to prosecute went down inside the fbi. catherine? >> thank you, tucker. a contact called me tonight and pointed out that last summer, the fbi director james comey testified on capitol hill with

the decision not to pursue criminal charges against hillary clinton and her team forci mishandling classified information, was unanimous among the fbi agents on the case. but the acting fbi director today seemed to testify to something slightly different saying morale took a huge hit. >> there were folks within our agency who were frustrated with the outcome of the hillary clinton case and some of those folks were very vocal about those concerns. >> his critics say andrew mccabe is partisan because his wife took $700,000 for 2015 state senate race in virginia from democrats, including a long time clinton aide, the virginia governor terry mcauliffe. told fox news that new leadership at the top of the bureau could mean a new review of the clinton case with a fresh set of eyes. >> tucker: so is it possible that the fbi could reopen this investigation into hillary clinton's emails? >> not too far over the tip of

our skis but definitely there'sr a new director, he can take a fresh look at the evidence and the decision-making because remember, fbi director comey was criticized for going outside ofd his investigative lane and putting on his prosecutor's hat and making that recommendation against criminal charges. >> tucker: interesting.. thank you very much. you may remember last summer, former fbi director comey spoke about secretary clinton's mishandling of classified information.me >> although we did not findet clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive highly classified information. any reasonable person in secretary clinton's position ory in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters should have known that an unclassified system is no place for that conversation. >> tucker: all this of course was quickly forgotten by most people once the election ended but last year, there was aou

tremendous amount of enthusiasm among some for taking action. you remember this. >> [chanting] lock her up! >> tucker: does hillary clinton still face potential legal jeopardy from the department of justice? the president of judicial watch, a legal watchdog organization and he joins us tonight. tom, simple question, do you a think it is possible that this case could be reopened under new fbi director? >> i think it needs to be reevaluated not only under a new fbi director but under the new leadership of the justice department. the misdirected the investigation by suggesting that they needed to prove intent when, as he pointed out, common sense tells you that they mishandled it, and they should have known what they were doing was wrong, which is enough forou prosecution, the grossul negligence under the law, and secondly, the justice department according to mr. comey himself, he thought they were later compromised so much so that he

needed a new attorney general in announcing whether or not she should be prosecuted or not. and so now the justice department is in the position to take a look see at this, but you have to remember there are other investigations.. the investigations of classified material has been shut down, but remember, there's a pending request from congress to investigate whether mrs. clinton was truthful to congress, and then reportedly there was still this investigation going on related to her foundation and the pay for play allegation, so not only should they reinvigorate those investigations that are still out there, but they really need to reevaluate what's going on, the handling of classified material and really her taking records illicitly, destroying them, all sorts of crimes related to that. you can't trust that last investigation to have got to the bottom of it. >> tucker: here's the key reason why, as far as i'm concerned. hillary clinton apparently was

never questioned under oath by w the fbi, and i never understood that. james comey of course led the prosecution of martha stewart, who ended up going to jail for lying to a federal agent. someone who had been through that doesn't put the person he's questioning under oath? what would be the rationale for that? >> i guess the rationale iss you're not allowed to lie to federal investigators whether you're under oath or not, but putting them under oath put them on notice because this is a serious investigation and by taking this lackadaisical p approach where you're granting immunity to all of her associates, i think there's still an open question as to whether she was granted some form of immunity in order to bee questioned. and then of course, you've got the whole process affected by -- infected by that terrible meeting between bill clinton and the attorney general lynch less than a week before the interview of mrs. clinton in less than a week, about a week before comey said there's going to be no prosecution or he would recommend no prosecution. b this is why we need some honest

folks, separate and independent. if you need independent counsel, so be it, to take another look see over all of this so thet, american people can be reassured that at least someone separate and apart from obama partisans and a politicized fbi directoror has honestly and thoroughly reviewed the evidence and has decided whether or not they need to proceed either with a further investigation or they can rely on the prior decisions and just keep it shut down. >> tucker: would you be worried tonight if you were secretary clinton? >> oh, i still think she faces legal jeopardy. if the system's working, she still faces legal jeopardy. the justice department under president obama protected her, the fbi director repeatedly misstated the law suggesting they needed intent. they have plenty of intent. let me tell you how bad the fbi investigation was. they were using freedom ofto information documents uncovered by judicial watch to question witnesses. witnesses didn't start getting

questioned until we started talking about questioning these witnesses. it was something they didn't want to do, justice departmentqu never wanted to have a serious investigation, so we just need some honest prosecutors and investigators and i believe thee fbi rank and file would be happy to do a serious investigation and would be happy even if there's no prosecution as long as there's a fair analysis in the end.d. >> tucker: right, because the appearance that powerful people skate discredits the entirewe system. thanks for coming on. >> you're welcome. thank you, tucker. >> tucker: trump made life more difficult for his press officece yesterday. yesterday, the white house insisted that comey was fired for his behavior last year at the recommendation of attorney general jeff sessions and thee deputy ag rod rosenstein. but trump gave a different account today in an interview to nbc news. here's part of it. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. knowing there was no good time to do it. and in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia

thing with trump in russia is a made-up story, and it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should've won, and the reason they should've won it is the electoral college is almost impossible for a republican to win. it's very hard. because you start off at such a disadvantage. so everybody was thinking theyey should've won the election. this was an excuse for having lost an election. >> are you angry with mr. comey because of his russia investigation? >> i just want somebody that's competent. i'm a big fan of the fbi. i love the fbi. >> were you a fan of him taking up the investigation? >> the hillary clinton investigation? >> about the russia investigation and the links between -- >> listen to me.e. as far as i'm concerned, i want that thing to be absolutely done properly. >> tucker: that interview is making an awful lot of news tonight and it will tomorrow as well, but does it change anything about the underlying facts of this case such as theyy

are? a democratic strategist and a former consultant for the department of homeland security, and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: among many other things, this is a reminder that there is an investigation in progress into the question of russian interference in the last election and it's being conducted by the most widely respected investigative organization in the world, the fbi. so given that, why in the world would you want a separate political investigation of this as democrats are calling for? >> the president said that inon the same interview that you were showing, said that he actually had dinner with comey, and in that, he asked if he wants to say, was talking almost look at job interview and then he asked am i being investigated? he said think about that.ed this investigation is about the trump campaign and were they t colluding with russia in this last election? whether you agree with the investigation or not, investigation is happening.

then the president of the unitee states who comey worked for during what the president looked like a job interview asked am i being investigated? that's highly improper. so there's a sense that an independent body needs to look at this because the president is not closing this. -- not disclosing his taxes. he's not coming forward. >> tucker:he hang on. let's stick to the core here. this is a story that will still matter ath month from now. this investigation into the russia connection. i think the whole thing is ludicrous but it doesn't change the fact that it exists. it's obvious to me that democrats would like to politicize it even further by creating a parallel investigation run by someone chosen by elected members of congress. my question to you remains, why is the fbi investigation inadequate? is it corrupt? >> the president just fired the

fbi director, sending a single, this is the third firing of people that are investigating him. the first person was fired, then you have a justice department official, the acting attorney general fire, now the head of fbi. >> tucker: sally yates wasas investigating president trump? >> sally yates was the acting head of the justice department. the fbi director reports to sally yates. that's the governing structure. >> tucker: this conspiracy is getting too complex for me to keep up with. though i do this every night.y are you saying that trump fired sally yates in order to squelchh the russia investigation? i thought he fired sally yates because she contradicted his executive order of immigration. >> no, she came specifically to talk about general flynn. she came to the white house and said we have to worry about general flynn, his contact with

russia is improper, he may be blackmailed, you've made him a national security issue.be soon after that, she was fired. >> tucker: it's a different matter. you're saying she was actually -- the one thing that they didn't know was that she was actually fired atputin's orders? i'm missing -- >> i think you should look at this calmly. >> tucker: i do. i have been every night. >> this is something to look at very calmly. this white house, justoo this recent firing has multiple stories. so just because they say they fired her for not going on the travel ban and supporting the travel ban doesn't mean that's the reason why she's fired. every single day -- >> tucker: okay.y. this is getting a little crazy. the bottom line is, are you saying that the fbi, the tens of thousands of people who work there, is corrupted as an institution by donald trump who's been in office for four months and in that time, he somehow corrupted the body of

the fbi? the people who work there? >> that is what you are saying. >> tucker: if you are not to say not, why would you take the investigation from them and handed to somebody appointed by politicians? this doesn't make sense. >> there's multiple ways of doing this. you could have an independent prosecutor that's appointed by the justice department. that can be brought up. you can have an independent prosecutor or a body that is appointed by the intelligence committee or in the senate.in there's multiple ways of doing this. >> tucker: who would that be? >> the fact of the matter is, there is an issue here that needs to be investigated. the president seems like by his actions doing everything he can to intimidate the people, the very people that are investigating him. and so if we believe in all the law and order presidency, then he should be accounted to the law as well if anybody else. the confidence in government --

>> tucker: part of the reason the average person is losing confidence is because the left has spun this ludicrous and incredibly complex conspiracy theory. you're saying that the fbi is corrupt.ex >> you can go down the list of republican leaders in the house and the senate. you keep saying left. >> tucker: i care about facts. >> if you care about facts, then you'd want an independent investigation. you don't want the president with the ability to fire people that areit investigating. you get to the bottom of it. >> tucker: this is totally fake. it's totally disingenuous. it's good for the country to get an independent investigation. that's not true. you can insult me if you want. >> i'm not trying to insult you. i'm just trying to point out something to you. >> tucker: thanks, i appreciate it. i'm done. the outrage from the supposedly objective press has become so obvious it's taken physical form.

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>> this looks political from the outside. let me tell you what it looks like as a practitioner. the president acted in cowardly fashion.po he's a coward. >> what's going on here is an effort to cover up the facts.

>> this is something that is completely outside how american law is supposed to work.k. >> what kind of country is this? >> tucker: there was a run on w xanax supplies in cvs pharmacies throughout washington over the last two days as the press absolutely melted down. the media committed to finding an illegal coup d'etat over the their beds.ed anderson cooper could not resist rolling his eyes literally at kellyanne conway, prompting her to denounce him as a sexist. >> i see sexism a lot of times when i show up for interviews like that. could you imagine rolling your eyes, having a male anchor on the network roll eyes at hillary clinton, at a female representative, spokeswoman for president obama or president bill clinton? i think not. >> tucker: charles krauthammer is a syndicated columnist and author and he joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. c >> my pleasure. >> tucker: i don't think it's necessarily sexist. you can roll your eyes at men and women and they can both

handle it. but it does seem like in the last couple of days, things have taken a turn in the way the posture of the press talks about trump. >> the press, we know, has always been liberal, been anti-conservative. that is like the sun rising in the east.e. trump is a special case. people seem to have a particular animus. i say that as somebody who isn't a fan of trump, wasn't a supporter, but he's president. and he deserves some respect. if you're an american, you want your country to succeed, and he is the president, constitutionally elected, and you want him to succeed. so there is a particular edge to the press, and it's as if the comey episode, which is troubling in some ways, but for god's sakes, it's not a constitutional crisis. has sort of sent people over the edge. to the point where they think there really are no journalistic limits or journalistic restraints, elementary ones like don't roll your eyes in the

middle of an interview, that ought to be observed. >> tucker: what is it e about? obviously, you're a psychiatrist, but i don't want you to invoke your medical training into this. what's the common sense answerdi to the reaction to trump? he's hardly the most conservative republican with ever elected. it's not ideological. there's something else about him that seems to drive the press insane. >> if you want to give this the best gloss, there's a question of fitness. i think people have a sense, some on the right as well, that he never reached the threshold of being fit for the presidency. in terms of his knowledge, in terms of his temperament, in terms of his manner, the way he treated some of the other candidates, the way that he insulted people, i think there's a lot about this persona that simply repels people. and it spills over into how they treat him journalistically. which i think ought not be the case. >> tucker: what happens after this?

when the trump presidency ends at some point and we move into a new era and we look around and you really can't trust that any news organization, any of these news organizations are telling you the unfiltered truth, what happens then? it's a different country. >> i've never thought that theth press was telling me the unfiltered truth. >> tucker: you're smart. >> and i think things were worse 30 or 40 years ago because thehe liberal press had a monopoly, and in 1980, a couple of majorau newspapers, the two newsmagazines, and yet ronald reagan won in a landslide. it shows you that even though this is part of the landscape, the press will always be overwhelmingly liberal. you've got to accept it, stop whining about it because it's not going to change. i don't think it's a conspiracy. it's a selection process where the smart conservative kids start a business, smart liberal kids go into journalism and social work and other things. i don't think it's a big conspiracy, but that's the way it looks.

today, you've got fox, you've got one page of "the wall street journal," you've got talk radio. the monopoly has been broken,f and i think for some liberals in the media, that's part of thehe reason why they go so much overboard. they can't stand the fact that they can't get away with murder because it'll be questioned in those outposts, their only outposts, a tiny minority of the media but an internet world with cable and with other outlets. they can't have the field to themselves, and that drives them crazy. >> tucker: it really does. they hate that more than anything. they don't like diversity. charles krauthammer, thank you. >> good to be here. >> tucker: white house checking criminal backgrounds of immigrants to make sure that dangerous criminals stay out of this country. up next, we'll talk to one activist who says that's demonizing these migrants. s me when i feel controlled by frequent, unpredictable abdominal pain or discomfort

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>> tucker: they're bringing crime. they're bringing drugs. they're physicallyin unclean. they're a threat to wommenus and children. illegal immigration is causing tremendous problems in mexico. that's tonight's reality check, citizens in the southern mexican city of tapachula are complaining that illegal aliens from central america are wrecking their town. in addition to familiar problems like gangs and violent crime, the people of tapachula are reporting instances of sexual aggression and migrants defecating in public. they say the danger is so greati

for them they're afraid to leave their homes. the problem is bigger now than it has been because more migrants are choosing to end their journey in mexico rather than travel all the way to the u.s. the trump administration seems more likely to catch and deport them. now that illegal aliens are staying in their country, mexicans are discovering there is a downside to open borders, but the mexicans may be lackinge in the sensitivity training most of us get in school and from the media and the democratic party. once they learn that their complaints are not legitimatean but instead manifestations of systemic racism and white privilege, they'll stop whining and learn to appreciate people sneaking into their countrieste and using the streetsar as a latrine. good luck. for the past seven years, thousands of immigrants have enjoyed a special temporary protective status due to a earthquake in the country from 2010. the trump administration is reviewing whether to end the status that allows any haitian in this country to avoid returning home. the administration is also conducting a review of any crimes committed by haitian immigrants that benefited from the special status.

an immigration policy coordinator at the institution for justice and democracy inin haiti. he says the president's review demonizes haitians, and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thank you very much for having me. >> tucker: i think most haitian immigrants are great. met a lot of them, work hard, seem to do well. some of them are not great. some are criminals. why is it demonizing haitians to find out who's who? >> basically it's a red herring, and the reason is that the temporary protective status statute itself disqualifies criminals.s. you have to put in your fingerprints for the fbi to check. under the law, people who are criminals are disqualified. so it's really a complete red herring to look beyond it because it already is enacting that criminals aren't in the population. >> tucker: what about people who have been convicted of crimes or charged with crimes while in the united states?

what's wrong with assessing in other words? >> they do assess it. >> tucker: the trump administration says we'd like to assess it more. i don't know why that's a baduc thing. >> they're not really trying to do that because every 18 months, they judge, are the situations sufficiently dire in the country? and haiti has had a series of sledgehammer j blows. the earthquake in 2010, thehe worst in 200 years, 250,000 people killed, m port-au-prince destroyed. still today, 50,000 people living in tent cities. then you have seven or eight months ago, hurricane matthew which destroyed much of the southern peninsula, about a quarter of the country. it destroyed crops, livestock, affected 2 million people and left haiti --oy >> tucker: again, i feel sorry for haiti.

the poorest country the hemisphere. it's in tough shape for 200 years, but that's not answering my question, which is this is not haiti, it's the united states, and don't american citizens have the right to assess whether the presence of people from any countrye including haiti is good for us? why is that a bad thing? >> every 18 months, people have to submit their fingerprints. there's a check by the fbi every 18 months, and criminals are not allowed to get tps. secondly, extending tps is in the national security interest of the united states. sending 50,000 people back to haiti, whose remittances help perhaps as many as 500,000 people in haiti when you've got a haitian government that isan reeling from a cholera epidemic that is completely unchecked, the u.n. for six years wouldn'ti take responsibility, 200 million of the $400 million -- >> tucker: i understand why it's in haiti's interest to have american dollars flow to it.t. we've sent billions from the treasury over there as well,

as you know, but why is it in our national security interest to keep tens of thousands of haitians here? i don't understand that at all.o >> because to destabilize haiti, and that's why you've got republicans joining democrats. just today, representatived donovan, chair of the emergency preparedness subcommittee of homeland security, a republican, came out for this saying it would hurt the u.s. economy and destabilize haiti. destabilizing haiti is no good because you've got a history of people when they're desperate because of the conditions having taken to the seas, coast guard interdiction has to occur. so it makes absolutely no sense. >> tucker: just because some republican is for it doesn't actually mean anything. it's not a data point. it's not evidence that the position is true. >> they're not judging this on the merits. >> tucker: i'm just trying to figure out your reasoning here.e you're saying that if we don't allow more haitians to come and the ones who are here already to stay, it'll be bad for haiti.

why is it in our national security interests? i just want you to explain in a way our viewers can understand because i'm legitimately confused. >> these people have been here seven to 15 years because they were here before the earthquake of 2010.pe they've been hard-working people, sending money back, and remittances are the chief form of foreign aid, 1.3 billion from the u.s. alone in 2015. it's estimated that 250,000 to 500,000 people depend on those remittances. we're not saying that's been -- a reason to extend it. >> tucker: why is that good for america? nobody ever factors that in. i know it's great for haiti and, i like haiti, and i like haitians. is it fair to say what's in it for us, which has massive unemployment and all these problems? why is it good for us? >> ask the disney company in orlando, which is coming out for tps because they say about 500 of their workers would be

affected. it would decimate families here and in haiti, and the destabilization shouldn't be dismissed. you've got a haitian government that's new that has asked for this to be extended because as of right now, things are too precarious because of the t cholera epidemic that's affecting a million people, hurricane matthew. the point is that to send 50,00n people back on point of not -- on top of not being able to replace -- >> tucker: disney might have to pay more to its workers here in the united states, and we wouldn't want that. thanks a lot for coming on.. i'm sorry. we're out of time. president trump has announced a new commission to investigate possible voter fraud in the 2016 election, which he says cost him the popular vote. next, we'll talk to a member of the new commission. stay tuned.ay

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>> tucker: president trump today ordered the creation of a new commission to investigate the

possibility of voter fraud in the last election. he lost the popular vote, of course, to hillary clinton in november and he has said repeatedly since then he would've won the popular vote if it weren't for widespread but undetected fraud. kris kobach is the secretary of state for the state of kansas, appointed head of the new commission and he joins us tonight. thanks for joining us.gh >> great to be with you. >> tucker: how are you going to determine the level of voter fraud? it's a controversial subject, others have tried, how are you going to get to the truth? >> i just want to say first of all, it's not just the 2016 election. it's voter fraud more broadly a and it's all forms of it, and also things like allegations of voter suppression. we're looking at all of the fin voting irregularities that affect the integrity of our election. to answer your question, there are lots of things we can look at. you can look at individual cases that states have of people c convicted or cases where there is credible evidence of voter fraud. you can look at databases, and this is the first of its kind nationwide effort to actually look at all 50 states. i know i'm very familiar with what's going on in kansas in cases we have presented to

federal courts in defending our proof of citizenship system, but i don't know what's going on in the other 49 states. it will bring evidence from all 50 states and will also look at some of the federal government's facts and data that they can provide as well. >> tucker: how are you going to find it if it doesn't exist? we know for a fact every day ing the media, it's like the yeti, it's a figment of your imagination. voter fraud has never occurred in america, so how do you hope to prove otherwise? >> we have proven it. we've proven in court. i'm the only secretary of state who has the authority to investigate voter fraud directly. nintht prosecuted our p case a few weeks ago in the last year and a half. the heritage foundation has a database of more than 700 convictions for voter fraud. but here's another way you can do it, this has never been done before. the federal government has a database of every known alien who has a green card or a temporary visa.as states have in the past asked, can we please run our voter rolls against a database and see if any of those aliens are on our voter rolls? the governments have already

said no. now we're going to be able to run a database against one or two states and see how many people are known aliens residing in the united states and also on the voter rolls. it's never been done before. >> tucker: if the federal government would allow the states to check the integrity of their voter rolls, that suggest to me they wanted voter fraud to occur. o m what's the other explanation? >> there were bureaucratic explanations that this would be too difficult. this is the federal government talking. our computer system isn't set up for the way the state wants to do this data check, but bottom line is it can be done, and this is one of the things the commission will do is try to get some hard facts out there. we already have a lot of data, but let's get more data and let people draw their own conclusions. >> tucker: so really quickly, why would anybody be against ensuring the integrity of an election? >> that's a great question. you think about it, the integrity and the fairness of our elections is at the very core, the very foundation of our republic.

if we don't have fair elections, how can we as a country have confidence in our system, how can you have loyal opposition, how can i, as an elected official, be confident that i really lost the election or won the election?ea you have to have it. you have to have it. this will hopefully provide facts that will shed light on the subject and give greater confidence to our system and also make some recommendations. here are some vulnerabilities we see, here are some recommendations, and let the states decide. >> tucker: seems really important. hard to think of many things more important. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: another day, another atrocity in the skies. atrocity may be a little strong, but -- rather than say animals? we have a great panel, stay tuned. vented with the right steps. and take it from me, every step counts. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps

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>> tucker: time to check in and see what's going on on campus. nothing good of course. uc santa cruz in the newsck learning what cowards everywhere eventually learn, that immediatn surrender in the face of aggression invites only further aggression and deeper humiliation. last week, we covered the takeover of an administrative building at uc santa cruz by the african black student alliance. we interviewed one on the show live. they refused to leave until their various demands were met and didn't take long. the school almost immediatelyth granted all of those demands. they agreed to paint a black affinity house on campus in the african nationalist colors.ll they agreed to impose mandatory diversity training in alln students and gave the group veto power over the content of that training. to the shock of administrators and nobody else, this capitulation did not solve the problem. it didn't go away. now the group is making new demands. they want the school to buy a

new property to quote "serve as a low income housing cooperative for disadvantaged students," in other words, cheap segregated housing open only to certain groups. they also want the school to splurge on a new black studies department, another 100 grand dedicated to a specific campus diversity program, and they say if these demands are not met, they will further reclaimem buildings on campus. think the school will be anymore resolute in defending principal and taxpayer money this time? of course not. they don't have any principles, and it's not their money. the news from america's skies is getting weirder by the day. passenger denied access to the bathroom and was told to go in a cup instead. a passenger on a british airway flight was trapped in her aisle as the plane waited to take off for the next 13 hours. the question arises, why can't airlines figure out the concept of treating customers like people? cohost of "after the bell" on fox business, she wrote a

great book, "lessons from the prairie." trish regan hosts the intelligence report also on fox business, also awesome, and alsp joining us tonight. the obvious conclusion is airlines are out of control. melissa francis, do you think that's right? >> i think some airlines are out of control. i have to say, in fairness, i traveled with my 6-year-old recently. he had the same problem on take off, and they sort of looked the other way as he ran up the aisle and used the restroom.up he wasn't forced to do anything in his seat, and even though i asked him like a good mom 600 times before we boarded the plane if he had used thefo restroom just in case this happened, they were civil to us. i think that right now, the airlines are making a fortune. every seat is packed. and they're treating us like cattle, and they need some bad p.r. like we're seeing, this thunderdome of bad p.r. recently to kind of realize that they need to treat people more civilly going forward. but they're not all bad like that, which if everybody has a

phone we just see it over and over again going viral, but it's not as many incidents as it looks like. >> tucker: so there are a lot of incidents coming out sort of on the heels of one another. do you think there is an effect where people are more motivated to report this stuff whether or not it's true because it's on the news? >> sure. you say whether or not it's true, i do think that this particular case here with the woman on united airlines -- by the way, united is denying thish saying that this did not happen, that the stewardesses, flight attendants, did not give her a cup to use. what's interesting to me is why are we not seeing more outrage on behalf of the other passengers that were on the plane? i know if i were seated next to someone and that actually happened, i'd definitely be taking to my social mediaa account to say something about it. >> tucker: you'd be live tweeting it. >> i would at least voice my protest, shall we say, for the

whole thing. and i would be quite horrified, and i think other people on the flight would have been as well, so it's interesting to me that we haven't heard more from the passengers on that flight. but i do think it's important, as melissa said, that people speak up about this because the airlines have become so bottom-line oriented, they havet gotten so big, they have combined over and over again and got bigger and bigger that now we're left really stuck a in a tough situation because they are doing all these things effectively at our expense. >> advice for anyone getting on a plane, bring my book. f it will make you laugh hysterically and you will forget whatever horrible thing is happening. >> tucker: that's why they gave your son a pass. they just knew. be kind. it's great to see you. we'll be right back.

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>> tucker: time for a reality check. boy, do we need one. joining us, james rosen, to answer the question -- has it ever been this tumultuous in washington? there seems to be no precedents. you are a historian and reporter. >> it's good to be with you, tucker. some historical perspective is valuable here. the term crisis was thrown around as well. people were old enough to remember. there were civil war veterans in the streets of washington. every generation has probably imagined it is facing or braving truly unprecedented challengeses that are truly scarier than ever before. truly that was true in the civil war. those that experienced the horrors of world war ii. the atomic bomb. obliterating cities from the sky like that. w probably since the cuban missile crisis, a nuclear exchange with

the soviet union. those were very anxious times. today's times are certainly unprecedented because donald trump is a singular unprecedented president but if there's a reason to feel anxious, it probably has very little to do it donald trump or his actions or the gym comey firing or what have you. it's the automation and the change of pace in this country. >> tucker: i agree. the core cause is anxiety. >> what's very solitary about 2016 is big data had mandated the outcome of the election. big data tells you if you like this, you might also like this. which means you're going to buy this. the morning after election day, there is something political scientists would call an honest to god surprised. that's a healthy thing. >> tucker: james rosen..

we will be back tomorrow at 8:00. the show that it's a sworn enemy of lying, pomposity,t smugness, and groupthink. "the five" is next. >> dana: hello, i am dana perino. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> i have to do the right thing for the american people. he has the wrong man for that position. >> dana: president trump defending his controversial decision to fire at james comey. in this verse first sitdown interview, over 48 hours after the firing, his outcome remains highly controversial. some white house accounts, the president gave his explanation.