happy mother's day for all the moms out there and especially to my mom, happy mother's day. the five is ready go live from new york. that's next. >> this is a fox news alert. i'm jesse waters. welcome to the five on this busy news day. we'll bring it all to you throughout the hour. we begin tonight with president trump's headline-making sit-down interview with fox news's jeanine pirro. jeanine talked with mr. trump about his decision to fire mr. comey, whether the democrats will ever cooperate with him. here's what he said about his threat to cancel the daily white house press briefing. roll the tape. >> when we have the press conferences, i actually said we shouldn't have them, because sarah huckabee. >> 100 years we've been doing that. >> no. no. no. there's never been action like this. this is crazy. they're getting higher ratings

on those press conferences. >> would you seriously consider stopping these press conferences? >> no. we do it in a different way. >> how? >> we do it with a piece of paper with a perfect, accurate, beautiful answer. >> in writing? >> they ask 100 questions or write in questions or 20 questions, if they get 1 out of 50, just a little bit off, 5%, 10%, 20%, it's -- the next day it's a front-page story on every newspaper. >> right. right. so? >> press conferences weren't even covered for obama practically. they were on c-span and c-span 2 and there was nothing going on. >> will you put an end to that? >> just a second. these press conferences are like the biggest thing on daytime television. >> they are. >> you see the ratings. they're blowing away everything on just about, i think, everything, on daytime television. what i'd love to do is stop th them. >> jesse: kimberly, you know what i love about this? he's still bragging about the ratings! >> kimberly: he's right. i mean, it's the new bold & the

beautiful! >> jesse: daytime television. >> kimberly: starring sean spicer. they're kind of riveting and captivating. >> jesse: i would call it general inhoss pitabilit pitability -- inhospitable. >> kimberly: do you have the cure? i think he was serious about this. i remember they were talking about that and were going to shake up the way the press briefings were handled, the calms for his administration. obviously, there's room for improvement in terms of the roll out and when they need to get ahead of the messaging like we saw on the travel ban and like we saw here with the dismissal of comey. perhaps it's not a bad idea they do accompany it with, um, you know, a paper read-out or election tron mick briefing. -- electronic briefing. >> jesse: do you think, greg, this is donald trump saying, you guys are being so nasty to me, do you know what i'm going to do? take away your toys for a little

while? you can't play with them! >> greg: president trump, what he does and people in the media forget, he likes to introduce options that were never introduced before because he's like, why not? no one's ever said i can't do this. let's just see what happened. he likes to toss a stone into the pond and watch it ripple, but the -- the person who doesn't take donald trump's words seriously most is donald trump! words are free. it's like steam coming off an engine. he can talk a squirrel off a nut truck. so his words are free. they flow and if he changes his mind, he changes his mind. he doesn't take this stuff as seriously as other people do, because he's from queens. he's from queens. he's a salesman! he's a salesman from queens. >> my mom's from queens. >> greg: i love queens. >> i'm just saying. >> kimberly: not that area. >> greg: what's that say about queens? >> jesse: gillian, is this

really going to happen? greg is saying he's just talking or does donald trump himself need to start doing more press conferences? because when he does it, that really moves the needle? >> gillian: i bet this is another one of his tactics where he -- one of his famous negotiating tactics where he throws something extreme on the table so that everybody could get worked up into a huff and then what actually is going to play out is something much more moderate, so i bet he's seriously mulling something over like maybe we're not going to do them every day. maybe we're going to do them three days a week. maybe they're going to be shorter. maybe we're with not going to televise all of them. something like that is -- . >> jesse: they're not not going to televise some of them. >> gillian: he's throwing them out so when he actually settles on something, it's not so egregious to people or not so over the top. >> greg: by the way, he's done this with everything, create an extreme position and everything else seems moderate. >> gillian: exactly. and it worked very well for him. >> jesse: we should maybe ask

him if he should do the pressers at 9:00. bob would love that wouldn't you bob? >> bob: i sure would. you know how much i love donald trump, but i want to give him a little credit here, because he finally realizes that he's so disorganized that no one could keep up with him. you put someone out there with sean spicer who i think now has got [ indiscernible ] >> jesse: you should talk. >> greg: you of all people! >> kimberly: wow. >> jesse: did you just say that? >> greg: you look sharp tonight. >> bob: thank you, nice of you, son. i think frankly it's not a bad idea, because they can't keep on the same page. because they -- throughout the course of the day, you're right about his thinking. well, maybe if he thinks -- no. no. no. he just keeps going. he doesn't. >> jesse: he's a shark, he's instinctual. you know what i said yesterday? he's a shark unaware of the effects he's got the on the

beach. he's constantly moving. everybody on the beach is screaming. leise i can what did i do? -- like what did i do? i fired comey! these press conferences aren't on c-span 2 like president oba obama's. i wonder why they were so boring. no one was there. >> bob: a comedy series with trump and some historical thing on the british tv. >> gillian: you know something else that happened today is spicer was trying to respond to criticism about this. well, he's going to get rid of the press briefing. and he said, well, it's hard to coordinate on messaging. we don't always get to the president on every issue before we go out and talk to the press. that was either a major cry for help or it was him admitting he's not actually -- . >> bob: he made the point. >> jesse: let's see if president trump addressed it with judge janine. here's a -- jeanine. here's a sneak peak. >> you're moving so quickly your communications department can't keep up with you?

>> yes. that's true. >> what do we do about that? >> we don't have press conferences, and we do -- >> you don't mean that. >> just don't have them unless i have them every two weeks or i do them myself. we don't have them. i think it's a good idea. first of all, you have a level of hospitality -- hostility that's incredible. it's very unfair. sarah huckabee is a lovely young woman. you know sean spicer. he's a wonderful human being. he's a nice man. >> is he your press secretary today and tomorrow? is he there tomorrow? will he be there tomorrow? >> he does a good job, but he gets beat up. >> will he be there tomorrow? >> he's been there since the beginning. >> jesse: kimberly, what do you think of the president's assessment of his team? >> kimberly: there's a disconnect. if you want to be fast and do communications with president trump, you've got to be someone he wants to spend time with. you've got to insist of getting in front of pod dumb and -- pod dus and talk to him and have five or six minutes with him before you get out there and

take the podium otherwise you're driving blind. >> jesse: are they getting that alone time? >> kimberly: that's what sean spicer is saying. the president is very busy, constantly on the go. it has to be something where there was a very close relationship and there was trust there, inherent loyalty. someone he knows that's been with him since the beginning, etc.. i think that's very important. >> jesse: is rins's job, the chief of staff, is he supposed to be the one who is controlling these meetings where they can get in front of each other before they go out there? >> kimberly: this is his job. he's supposed to be the conduit to make sure they're communicating, that they get at the messaging is on point and that everybody is on the same page, otherwise you get this well, one person is saying another thing. the president is tweeting something else. you've got to be connected to them. there's got to be a direct link. >> bob: the white house wanted to have our own kimberly guilfoyle as press secretary. she decided she didn't want to

do it. >> kimberly: i can't break up with bob. >> bob: that's right. too much time together. i don't know of a press secretary that's been successful that didn't have direct access to the president. >> greg: we were sitting here raging on the communications team. that's not the issue. the issue is this is a different kind of president. we all know this, because we're talking about this guy every single day. he's doing not one thing a day. he's usually doing four or five things a day. compare the -- i compared him to a pilates instructor or a cyclist that the class can't keep up. he's always working everybody to the bone, so people can't keep up with him, including his own staff. his staff can't keep up with him. >> jesse: you're saying the president is a.d.d. and he's calling meetings and doing this and that. >> greg: i wouldn't say a.d.d.. >> jesse: he's working so hard. >> greg: he doesn't drink. he doesn't have a hangover. >> bob: listen, i was a drunk for 30 years and i never saw noon. that was exactly right.

>> gillian: but to a certain extent, i disagree with you. don't strike me again. >> bob: don't worry about it. he's too small to hurt you. >> gillian: the president now has more on his plate, more on the othera jendda than othe other -- more on the agenda than other presidents before? that doesn't cut the mustard with me. someone is not exerting that discipline on this. someone is not getting the right people at the right times of day with the president saying, look, this is the message. this is the message of the day. go forth. here's what the president thinks. someone is not doing that. >> kimberly: you have to manage the oval. >> bob: the oval? >> kimberly: you do. that's what i said. >> bob: i don't know what that means. >> kimberly: want to find out. >> bob: what you need to say to trump is will you have surprises for us today? you know, the thing is, they'll have their press conference and then he'll do something. you know?

and totally -- no one knows anything about it. how do you communicate that? the only person to communicate it, i think greg's right, is trump. himself. >> jesse: he should be his own press secretary. >> kimberly: he's the best messenger. he knows exactly what he's thinking and feeling and how he wants to say it. >> greg: remember the last press conference he had, he was on the ropes with russia saying a couple months ago -- and he came out and razzle-dazzled everybody saying you're all fake news and put everyone in a locker and jetted off into a big rally. if he did that more and explained his positions to the american people, he'd be a lot more effective, do au ? >> bob: no. any -- do you agree? >> bob: no. no. >> greg: couldn't be worse than anything obama did. >> bob: go back to obama. in the corner, and you can't defend trump, you go back to

obama. >> jesse: i'm not in the corner at all. i'm in the center of the table. a lot of this story has become process -- -- become about process. no one can keep up with the president. the story is changing. he cut loose comey because he was ineffective and he didn't feel like he had the trust and credibility he needed to do the job. that's the point of the story. it's not about russia or the white house people. greg gregg he's -- comey was essentially the jan brady of the -- . >> greg: comey was essentially the jan brady of the f.b.i., in the middle of everything but never made it better. they had to get rid of jan brady and find a marsha. right now, it's about finding a marsha. i think it would be great if it were a woman. >> bob: huckabee said the vast majority of ages have come to them and said how terrible he was. that's exactly a lie. >> jesse: really? >> greg: which huckabee? >> bob: which huckabee? >> greg: yes.

>> bob: i can't distinguish the two of them. always put the youngest guy in the middle. >> kimberly: bob, i'm going to try to save you just a little bit. judge jeanine asked president trump about his controversial firing of f.b.i. director james comey including a report from the "new york times" that the president asked comey for a loyalty pledge. >> people suggest that the question that apparently the "new york times" is selling that you asked comey whether or not you had his loyalty was possibly inappropriate. did you see how they would say that? >> i read that article. i don't think that was inappropriate at all. >> did you ask that question? >> no. no, i didn't. i don't think that would be a bad question to ask. i think loyalty to the country, loyalty to the united states is important, it depends on how you define loyalty. number one. number two, i don't know how that got there because i didn't ask that question. >> what about the idea that in a tweet you said that there might be tape recordings? >> that i can't talk about. i won't talk about that.

all i want is for comey to be honest, and i hope he will be. and i'm sure he will be, i hope. >> kimberly: jesse, what do you make of this? president's -- the report of the allegation is that the president was requesting or hoping for a loyalty pledge from the director? >> jesse: i don't know what i believe from the "new york times" anymore because i don't trust it. the only people that know what happened is james comey and donald trump. the "new york times" says this happened. who knows? just the other day, "new york times" said comey asked for more resources for the russia investigation before he was fired and that was "fake news." >> gillian: now we know. >> bob: that's -- . >> gillian: unless there's now the recordings that the president mentioned. >> jesse: i don't believe there are tapes. i believe he said that to mess with people's heads and it's working as you can see from over here. he's having people chase squirrels and i don't think there's any tapes. if there were, then that's trouble.

>> kimberly: i'll get you to respond, greg, in a moment. sean spicer answered an avalanche of questions at today's press briefing. take a look at this exchange in particular. >> did president trump record his quofertions former f.b.i. director comey? >> i think you're referring to the tweet. i've talked to the president and the president has nothing further to add on that. >> why did he say that? why did he tweet that? why what should we interpret from that? >> the president has nothing further to add to that. >> greg: you have to realize that's much like what we do when we're driving and someone cuts us off. we roll down the window and we shout "hey you!" and five minutes later, you forget about it and move on. that's what his tweets are. the other thing about loyalty when he's talking about loyalty, the thing that concerns me about trump is true loyalty is from someone who is honest to you and risking their own friendship to be honest. the hypercritical is the person who cares. what i was worried about with trump or president trump, rather was that he would surround

himself with yes men and toadys. there seem to be when you're an au authoritarian-type, you attract toadys. >> bob: you're exactly right, too, greg. >> greg: there's an even number. i think people will talk to him. >> bob: really? >> greg: he may not be listening. >> jesse: president obama surrounded himself with yes men. there was no diversity or opinion within his cabinet. trump hired other trumpers. he hired -- . >> bob: the trumps are in different cities. >> gillian: i disagree, jesse. there's been entire books written about how there was differences of opinion among president obama's cabinet when they decided everything, especially in foreign policy which is mostly what i care about. remember just -- . >> jesse: my point is that trump said reince preibus was against him.

tillerson came out of nowhere. mcmaster not a pro-trump guy. >> bob: most of the guys weren't pro-trump guys before they got there those are the two adults in the cabinet. >> jesse: he ran against ben carson and he hired him. >> bob: have we heard anything from the housing secretary? ben carson? >> jesse: what would you like to hear? >> bob: i don't know. i had a section 8 house, actually. >> greg: it wasn't a section 8 house, it was a different kind of house. >> kimberly: bob, there's three adults. the axis of adults. >> bob: you're exactly right. if we leave out of that the president of the united state states -- . >> jesse: i mean even. greg gregg cristie was -- . >> greg: cristie is not there. cristie was one of the origina originals. >> gillian: don't you wonder if we're not missing the big picture here? to me the big picture is like so the back story and fights about that is kind of back firing on everybody, but to me, the biggest problematic in terms of

optics is the fact that now we're -- this administration is 100 days in and we have a fired acting attorney general, fired national security adviser and a fired director of the f.b.i., all cabinet-rank positions that people tend to hold for years and rarely get fired from i think this is what the trump administration needs to finesse, not who said what, when and we have tapes and we don't have tapes. i think they need to come up with a narrative to explain that. >> bob: your point about foreign policy in this administration, there are huge issues going on in the middle east, for example, and all he's had it one trip by jared in his suit with a bullet vest on. the fact of the matter is. >> jesse: the president is going overseas next week. >> bob: that's great. that's just wonderful. the president of the united states has -- for example, australia who happens to be a good ally of ours. remember he hung up -- . >> jesse: that's fake news, bob. >> bob: oh. fake news. >> greg: australia had the best

health care ever. as a salesman, he says things to break the ice. can we just talk about -- yes! i want to talk about the tweet. people are accusing him of being out of control and all of this stuff, but how -- nothing is deceptive when it's out in the open. we need tweets, for example, about, you know, recordings. if you're going to make a threat or tape something, you would do it secret live -- secretive. this is the most transparent president we've seen. >> bob: if he's transparent, let him say if there are tapes or not. >> kimberly: but also when jared went to iraq, just for the record, he went with secretary tilllerson. it was his delegation. he didn't go -- >> bob: yeah, he had a baby-sitter. we have that here at this table with one of our people. we've got that. and i wasn't talking about you, jess. >> jesse: i don't know what that means. the real winner, bob, can we

agree is putin? because he's undermining our system by having us constantly worried about russia when we should be looking at other matters. >> kimberly: the president touched on a number of different topics in his interview with judge jeanine like democratic obstruction particularly by the senate leader. >> will you be able to work with schumer? >> it's tough to work with him. i've known him for a long time. he's gone very, very far left. he doesn't have good control of his party. he's not a good leader. it'll be pretty tough for me to work with him. we'll see. hopefully what will happen is in '18, we'll elect some republican senators, because we only have a margin now, two -- we're going to elect some people, some more republicans. we'll be able to do it without having to go through the situation with schumer because honestly, they just want to stop things. they want to clog up the wheels and we can't let that happen. >> kimberly: you can imagine the president is pretty frustrated

given what is going on. >> jesse: he came into office assuming he'd have a good relationship with cig chuck. the relationship deteriorated once crying chuck stand him in the back once they had the meeting. doesn't surprise me that crying chuck is acting like this. they're defending so many seats in the midterms. they're in deep, deep trouble in the midterms. 10 of the states they have to defend are trump states. politically, right now there's not a lot of reason for the democrats in the senate to go along with the president, but if -- you can work with any president if this presiden president -- if you're a democrat. he's not an idealogue. he wants to get things done everyone likes on both sides of the aisle. infrastructure, trade, jobs, even what is happening -- a lot of ways people could work together in washington. the left would come to the table. >> bob: want to say crying chuck one more time? >> jesse: crying chuck. >> bob: the reason the democrats are doing that -- you know barack obama got no republican

votes on the bills -- . >> jesse: because they were so far left. >> bob: democrats aren't going to vote for this crap. >> jesse: republicans didn't want to own the death spiral. sorry. >> bob: the death spiral is here. it landed. it landed in the oval office. >> jesse: you pulled that out of every exchange. >> gillian: law of unintended consequences this week was in full force on this issue. the firing of jim comey has created this, like, ground swell of democratic support. all of these people like chuck schumer have jumped ship like dick durbin and are now supporting him saying i was great f.b.i. director and he never did anything wrong. i think that this is the kind of political unintended consequences that we're seeing. >> bob: democrats jumped all over him when he did that. no one said anything bad about him before or since. >> gillian: we've on the record nanci pelosi saying things like,

he better watch his job. we're not sure that he's got his job. >> bob: during the clinton issue. the clinton issue should be dead but trump wants to bring it up to cover up what is going on with russia. >> kimberly: democrats would have been jumping up and down with glee and joy if she won and she would have gotten rid of comey immediately. >> bob: that's for sure. >> greg: first off, bob, i'm not going to call him crying chuck. i'll call him up chuck. it's shorter. bring up clinton. let's talk about the clinto clinton/lewinsky scandal for a moment. that scandal took an administration's eye off the ball which led indirectly to islamic terror and 9/11 because they were so consumed by that scandal. now you have a media that's suffering from uninjuremosis. uninjured over russia. we may get a 9/12 instead of 9/11.

>> bob: greatest job in42 structure -- infrastructure. >> greg: you have an administration that's got to obsess over something over here, you missed the bigger picture. we should be thinking about the bigger picture which we missed because clinton wasn't looking at the big picture. he was looking at something else. >> kimberly: now we covered just about everything. the full interview with president trump is tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern on "justice with judge jeanine." up next, is there a difference between the mainstream media and the democratic party? answers lie ahead. a classic will ferrell moment on a college campus. you've got to see this. stay tuned. [hissing]

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>> bob: we want you all to stay with us now. this show has another half hour. it's usually me at the end last minute, but i'm actually in the middle of the show today. please don't turn turn off your tv. president trump's firing of james comey was by far the most famous story of the week. here are the most interesting reactions according to our procedures. >> there are many parallels to watergate but i have to tell you i think all the way back to the kennedy assassination to draw parallels. i was there, as you know. >> president trump is dangerous, dangerous because he may be obstructing justice in terms of the investigation that really goes to the heart of our democracy. >> i mean, almost feels like a scene out of "godfather" but it's not. it's real. it's very, um, it's alarming. >> i will also tell you that we asked clint watts, former f.b.i.

director, about this. he said you're absolutely right, senator. you ought to be following the money, but you also ought to know that you should follow the trail of the dead bodies. >> kimberly: oh god! >> jesse: wow. >> bob: it is a godfather moment. >> jesse: the only scandals of dead bodies recently were "fast and the furious" and been ghazi. the -- benghazi. i think the media and democrats are colluding more than trump and russia according to wikileaks. check that out, too. i'm worried about the democrats and the media because they're going so in together with each other that the american people are just not going to believe any of their polls, any of their analogy, any of their predictions because they know they're so in the tank and if this russia thing doesn't catch any big fish, what are they going to have to show for it? >> bob: gallop showed 2-1 the american people trusted the media over president trump so. >> jesse: i saw another poll

that said it was the opposite. >> bob: donald trump. jesse waters' water world. >> jesse: thank you for the plug. >> bob: you're a serious, well-informed person. >> kimberly: oh. >> bob: that'll be so far out. >> jesse: you're losing control, bob. >> gillian: i think dick durbin goes a little too far, as usual, in his criticism with the president on this comb moo issue however, he did make one really good point which was to me, to my liking. he said -- he's the only person i've seen so far that pointed out the fact that attorney general jeff sessions recused himself from the russia investigation, investigation into the trump administration ties with russia which is all as it should be, however, he then comes back and writes this justification memorandum that becomes part of the basis for comey's firing, so how is it that he recuses himself from the

investigation -- wait -- but has a hand in him being like a -- and i wanted to say -- i wanted to say that i think that is probably why president trump has gone back on the narrative and said, you know what? i'm the one who made this decision. i made it a long time ago. i was going to go through with it no matter what. i think he was protecting the attorney general. >> bob: let me ask you a question. excuse me, you've had your chance. learn these manners, will you? kimberly, what do you think about this? sessions didn't recuse himself from the russians. why did he get the middle list? >> kimberly: why did he? >> bob: yeah. >> kimberly: i don't really feel that he did. it was his deputy a.g. that issued the memorandum and did that at the president's request. i don't see what the problem is i didn't think it was an improper recusal to begin with i think he stayed within the bounds of it. i didn't see any alarm to that. >> bob: did you recuse yourself from any court cases?

>> kimberly: no. i didn't have to. >> bob: greg, of all the times you've been in court, what do you think, i mean, seriously, this story about the memorandum being the decision point for the president, the fact of the matter is the president invited both of them to the white house and said write me a narrative so i can fire this guy. >> greg: uh-huh. >> bob: didn't come out that way with the white house. they said, no, of course, it's something he got and then he made the decision. >> greg: first, i've got two points to make. and they both have to do with the segment, not that question. we were talking originally about collusion between democrats and the media and how this is somehow a revelation it didn't. the democratic party and the president are the beavis and butthead of leftism. it's always 2 against 1 in an election. >> kimberly: who's beavis and who is butthead? >> greg: good question. the republicans are dominating when outnumbered. the media should love trump.

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>> greg: yeah. attorney general jeff sessions announced department of justice will now pursue the stiffest possible penalties for drug offenders that overturns 2013 directive by obama's attorney general eric holder -- you remembered him -- who ordered special prosecutors to [ indiscernible ] with crimes that carried stiff mandatory minimums. >> we're seeing an increase in violent crime in our cities particularly in baltimore, chicago, memphis and milwaukee, st. louis and many others. the murder rate has surged 10% nationwide. the largest increase in murders since 1968. and we know that drugs and crime go hand in hand. they just do that, the facts prove that so. >> greg: civil liberties advocates slammed the policies as counterproductive as mr. holder going so far as to

call it dumb on crime. my word, gillian. we know when you crack down on drugs, that only -- that doesn't reduce demand. it just creates more crime? >> gillian: yeah, it's a tough situation. i think what it boils down to is that the holder policy was called smart on crime because at the time he implemented it, his department was spending more than 1/3 of its budget incarcerating people rather than preventing crimes, investigating crimes, which is what they're supposed to do, so that sounds well and good, but i see the flip side here because there's a major downside of this like incontrovertable truth. when you make it easier for people to get away with selling drugs, drug dealers will proliferate on our nation's streets so there's obviously a very heavy tension here. that's kind of what -- the attorney general sessions comes down hard on the side of prosecuting drug dealers. i don't know what the answer is but it's a -- . >> greg: i know what the answer is. bob? prohibition, we learned the

lesson. it ruined lines. once we lifted prohibition, people learned to drink responsibly. a lot of people don't but that's what human nature is we can't control everybody. how do we teach people how to enjoy what earth offers if we constantly make everything illegal? people have a right a right to their own obailiff yoon. we must allow them -- oliveion and we must allow them to experience it in the safety of their own homes instead of put them in prison? >> bob: that's right. who got incarcerated? wasn't just major drug dealers. it was a lot of people who smoke dope and got caught for the third time and were put in and eventually led to -- then it eventually led to the creation of for-profit prisons. you know, the fact of the matter is, sessions would have arrested someone who -- . >> kimberly: bob? >> bob: what? >> kimberly: i just wanted to tell you something. >> bob: did you interrupt me to say you wanted to tell me something? >> kimberly: yeah. >> bob: go ahead. >> jesse: you guys are on tv

right now. >> kimberly: 99% of the people under the law that are incarcerated are for drug trafficking. in state, you can get busted for possession, etc., but not federal. and federal, aware of the mandatory minimums and the sentencings are, that's who you're dealing with and who they're catching. >> bob: that's also the issue when you're talking about dealing, is there a difference between the charge of crack cocaine and powder cocaine is a different -- . >> greg: i think they changed that right? >> bob: i don't know whether they did or they didn't but the point is, how long are we going to keep doing this and recognize that, you're right, greg, you're going to have people -- you can't -- you're going to -- look, if you take a drug dealer, a big one off the streets, someone will take his place. >> greg: in some areas of life -- and i know you disagree with me, k.g., drug dealer is no different from a businessman

dealing something. i know, but remember, human beings seek a way out of their lives. >> kimberly: why don't you ask the people that have been put out of their lives in chicago and inner cities across this country from violent crimes by drug cartel led by gang members. they're not businessmen. they're murderers and they prey on innocent lives. >> bob: if you legalize andharn cocaine it forces people to go to clinics to do it i was addi addicted to both of them. i was addicted to you, which is amazing. >> greg: i got the to get jesse in here -- i got to get jesse in here. >> jesse: i say, if it's going to get them locked up, let's let them go. >> bob: i put $25,000 in a chain in a security box and i couldn't find it.

>> kimberly: this is my point. >> greg: jesse, i want to hear more about that no one ever found it? >> bob: no. >> it's still out there somewhere, everybody. >> jesse: it's the beginning of a reality show by bob. >> greg: all right, jesse. donald trump is the kind of person who doesn't want to interferon -- interfere with american lives. i'm surprised he'd go this hard on something like that. >> jesse: on the other hand he's very anti-pot, he's never -- he doesn't drink. he's a law and order guy. a lot of the drug trafficers are involved with ms-13 and they ruin children's lives. >> kimberly: 35,000 americans die from opioid abuse last year. that's one of the things he campaigned about. so did cristie. we were in new hampshire for the convention. >> jesse: it's a compassionate move by the president and the attorney general. >> bob: you call that a compassionate move? >> jesse: it keeps the streets

safer and children. >> bob: it hasn't so >> jesse: that's because for the last eight years, they were talking about rehab. >> bob: obama. obama. obama. >> greg: they weren't keeping the criminals under gun laws in jail. they were letting them out. >> bob: who is supposed to tease here, am i? >> greg: i am. a major story you won't hear about under the mainstream media christians under attack in the middle east. we'll be back to talk more about that. it's the simple things in life that mean the most. boost® simply complete™. no artificial flavors, colors or sweeteners, plus 10 grams of protein and 25 vitamins & minerals. it doesn't get better than this. boost® simply complete™. ...doesn't happen by accident.

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>> gillian: "wall street journal" has a new report today about the christians fleeing the middle east because they're under attack by extremist groups. little or nothing is being done to protect them. mike pence acknowledged the magnitude of the threat christians are facing all across the region yesterday. >> practitioners of terror harbor a special hatred for the followers of christ, and none more so than the barbarians known as isis. that brutal regime shows the savagery frankly unseen in the middle east since the middle ages. and i believe isis is guilty of nothing short of genocide

against people of the christian faith and it is time the world called it by name. >> gillian: so it is true that more arab christians are living outside the region today than inside the region. there's something like 20 million arab christians living abroad and 15 million living inside the region so it's obvious to me the demographics are changing. what do you think, jesse? >> jesse: the last administration focused heavily on islam phobia, and i believe this administration is now focusing on christian genocide. i think we should focus on all victims no matter what their religion is. last administration, i know, didn't want to discuss the religious nature of the enemy. i think it's good for this administration to discuss that motivation behind the savage attack is based on religion, because when you talk about the truth and accept the reality on the ground, i think you can actually make smarter decisions. i'm glad they're addressing this. >> bob: you know, groundhog day, again.

>> jesse: you're wrong. >> bob: christians have been in that relin -- region longer than muslims have been there. the fact they've been killed -- we've talked about this for years -- it's one of the things that drives me absolutely crazy. egyptians tried for awhile to protect. then they backed off and didn't do the job they said they were going to do the rest of region do nothing because they want to see genocide. they want christians out of there. if these muslim leader who has are supposedly our friends would stand up and say something -- but you're cowards! saudi arabia, what's wrong with you? you fund terrorism and sell us your oil and won't say a thing about this! come on! you can do better than that. you have a lot of of princes with a lot of money and nothing to do. >> gillian: at the same time though, kimberly, you talk about radical ideology all the time. they're not exclusively targeting christians, right? the crazy people who practice perverted versions of islam will happily kill jews and christians and hindis, not purely

christians, right? >> kimberly: it's pure evil in terms of radical jihad, they're merciless and don't let anyone stand in their way. i do think it's important to highlight what is happening to christians and the genocide that is occurring in pakistan. you have christian girls that are kidnapped unless they convert to islam or married to muslim men. it's horrible to think we're seeing this happening across the world and it's sad, because i don't see it being discussed or talked about, you know, enough, so i applaud the vice president for bringing this up. >> gillian: you get the last word if you would like it. >> greg: i'd rather just talk about how the media portrays this and what they focus on and broaden the scope of the victi victims. there are acceptable victims in the media and unacceptable villains. we'll have countless stories that turn out to be hoaxes that generate the scare of islam phobia. we're constantly told we're islamphobic nation based the

rampant hoaxes and they turn out to be fake. media focuses on that and ignores the real suffering that's happening worldwide in which the victims are christian, muslim, women and gays, they die daily but, you know, someone writes something derogatory on a wall in a campus, that's where the news goes. >> gillian: all right, stick with us. one more thing is coming up next. ♪ nobody does underwater stunts, sylvia. except me, of course. this is my stop. adios! ♪ if you're a stuntman, you cheat death. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. número uno!

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>> time now for one more thing. i'm go first. will ferrell comedian gave the address at usc where he went to school. here is a sneak peak. >> this is not my first commencement speech. the institutions to which i've spoken at previously include briman's school of nursing, hollywood deejay academy and trump university. and now ♪ ♪ i'll always love you >> greg didn't even laugh at all. >> greg: i don't know, i've been there. >> jesse: don't forget to catch my show "waters world" 8:00 this saturday night. greg? >> greg: after jesse 10:00 saturday, my show, i got amanda head, david angelo, cat and

tires. going to be a wild, wild show. but now, it's time for this. number out. >> jesse: that's a soul. there you go. >> greg: i want to thank leanne johnson. gave me these. isn't that great? >> kimberly: move it like that. does she have a web site? >> greg: i think she's found them and purchased them. these are unicorn high cops. >> bob: did you get those out of the southern part of manhattan? >> kimberly: that was so weird. here is a story we'd like to commend, first responders for the work they do and put their lives on the line every day. some of you may have seen or heard about this story. take a look at this dramatic rescue video from yesterday showing the moment when heroic first responders in southern california saved the life of a woman who had threatened to jump from the roof of a 22-story building.

>> there they go. whoa! yeah! yes! >> kimberly: ok. well obviously very excited to save a life. the woman was eventually brought down from the building safely. god bless you, first responders! you always show up and save the day. >> greg: all right, bob. >> bob: happy mother's day, everybody. i was married for a very brief period of time and my wife divorced me when my children were young but we stuck together and raised our kids. that happens way lot of people. i want to commend her, her name is leyland kaiser. she did a terrific job with the kids. we worked together well. we kept them first in our thoughts. i suggest to anyone who -- it's never anyone to have a divorce and have kids but it's something you can do and do well. >> kimberly: coparents. nicely said. >> gillian: onto zimbabwe. he's been caught recently snoozing away at eight different international summits. a lot of criticism, his

spokesperson issued a statement today saying he's not sleeping, he's protecting his eyes. >> greg: that's it for us. mother's day. happy mother's day to everybody. have a great weekend. "hannity." is next. >> welcome to "hannity." this is major breaking news tonight. newt gingrich, jay sekulow, joe concha and peter schweizer here tonight. first, the commander-in-chief is not taking the lies, smear, slander, disparchment anymore from the media or the democrats. president has had enough. tonight, he's fighting back. that's our opening monologue. all right so after neverending fake news conference from propaganda media highlighted by this unprecedented negativity and their bizarre tinfoil hat conspiracy theories and outri