our friends from "the five" are ready to go in new york. have a good night. ♪ >> kimberly: hello, everyone. i am kimberly guilfoyle. this is a fox news alert. the white house pushing back against the bombshell "washington post" report in the headlight of the poster is that trump revealed highly classified information to russianpo foreign minister and the ambassador. national security advisor h.r. mcmaster denied the report. >> there is nothing that the president takes more seriously than the security of our people. the story that came out tonight reported is false. the president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries including threats to civil aviation. at no time -- at no time, or intelligence sources or message discussed. the president did not discuss any military operations that

were not already publicly known. other officials present, reviewed the same way and said so. it outweighed those those of an anonymous source. it didn't happen.ig >> kimberly: joining us now with more is chief white house correspondent, john roberts. obviously a big breaking news story. he saw that very strong and definitive statement from h.r. mcmaster. what's the latest? >> i can tell you that nobody at the white house is happy that this has happened. they will try to get to the bottom of it. i talked with the senior official here at the white house who told me "the fact that someone would leak this is astonishing and it shows both an extraordinary lack of concernrn for national security." the white house is baffled how all of this got out. you heard h.r. mcmaster say a limited number of people in the oval office -- clearly there were some aids as well present,

but the fact is the details of this meeting with such a small circle of people got out was baffling. however, for us as journalists, he did not say what the nature of the information was that the president shared. here's what we get into a little bit of an area that is concerned for people who have been in this business a long time. this was said to be an intelligence document that was developed by one of our partners, it may be a partner in the region, and that the president didn't have ownership of this, he can go out there and talk about anything he wants, classified or not. the fact that this might have come from a third country is something that is troubling because it might actually m compromised in the hands of the russians of the sources and methods used by that country to develop their intelligence. >> kimberly: we will take it around the table. dana. >> dana: i have a couple questions. there is a report after the

meeting, is it true that the nsc called the nsa and the cia to report about the meaning because they were concerned about something? did that actually happen? >> we don't have any independent reporting about that. we can only go by the story as it came to light in "the washington post" ." that the nsc called the nsa and the cia to tell them that thee president had shared this document and we don't know the substance of those conversations was and what the reaction was of the cia and the nsa. i'm sorry, dana. i'm devoid of a deeper level of understanding. >> dana: you don't have to apologize. it's difficult because obviously breaking news into something like this would be so classified that white house communications team would never know about it. now they are having to scramble on a story but that is possibly against the story that is about the leak.si >> here is something we know

about the information is that it had to do with threats to airlines, which would put it in the realm of this laptop threat. laptops have been banned coming into the united states has now been expanded to europe. russia faces the same threat. we are hearing from sources that why wouldn't the white house share that sort of information with another country that is s under the same sort of threat, in particular, a country withon which the president would like to work together to defeat isis? there may be less there that is being deposited by some of these organizations. >> kimberly: we will take it to jesse and then bob. >> jesse: john, how many people were at the meeting and how many individuals there had an aide? this is turning to a leak investigation and can you go up to one of these aides, who i assumed it the leaking, you assume it's not mcmaster or phillipson, it's got to be in

aid. you say hand over your blackberry, your computer, who did you call? is that happening right now? that seems like it is the top priority of the trump white house. >> we don't know the exact number of people in the meeting. there were core principles present. h.r. mcmaster, the national security advisor, dina powell. we know that kislyak were there. there was a photographer on behalf of the russian government who was there. he apparently was a journalist because those photos were published than the russians had a number of aids as well.as you can bet that this white house is activelyy trying to trace down the source of this week. i do not know if it's been narrowed down to any particular group of people. i've been told that a memo was not broadly circulated because of the content of this meeting. i am also hearing that there were electronic communications regarding this meeting, and that the leak could have happened digitally.

and that someone got a hold of the email and try to share with someone else. if you look at "the washington post" story and "the new york times" also has matching reporting on it now, there are officials, u.s. officials who are current and former sources for the stories, so that was it just somebody inside government, somebody who used to be in government who is now in private sector. >> kimberly: they have to figure who has access to email like that. bob has a question for you. >> bob: mcmaster says the story is flat false. he didn't take any questions. "the washington post," if this is a false story, was asked by the cia and nsa not to publish the name of the town. which is very significant where this information came from, where our partner got the information and shared it with us. for even that to get out is beyond comprehension. except in this white house.

would've "the washington post" make this up? why would they ask them to withhold this information? >> it all depends on what type of document and the intelligence was that they were talking about. i think that's what h.r. mcmaster is talking about when he says that the story as reported is false. again i am told that this is wat to threats against the united states and threats against russia. when you are trying to develop an ally on the war on terror and isis, you want to develop information that is relevant and pertinent to them to try to geta them on board. bob, to your other point, it comes back to russia again for this white house.s if this was a singular event, you can say okay, someone shared some information. when you take this in the piece of a larger puzzle, there are some people at the white house to say i can't believe it's russia again. >> kimberly: greg has a question for you.

>> greg: i noticed the criticism of mcmaster. he said the story is false, but he doesn't say what part is false because it sounded like a legal answer.r. there is one sliver of the story that is not right that he can say -- that the whole story is not right. i am wondering if that holds water in your opinion? was that his way of a legal answer and not a real answer? i am also curious about sean spicer. i'm wondering if he is somewhere doing shots of jagermeister in a fort of pillows in the woods. >> i can tell you this much, he is not hiding out in the bushes on the north lawn. is it a legal statement from h.r. mcmaster? yes, it did. again, we do not know what the actual document was. what is a classified document, was it a top secret document, was it a code worded document, as it was reported by "the washington post." we do not know what part of the reporting is "false." as to sean spicer, he is still

in his office right behind me and we s do know that the communication staff worked r together in the cabinet room with steve bannon. in a couple of moments, becausei we were standing in the hallway not too far away, we heard some raised voices. likely that that meeting got a a little heated at times. we don't know what the content or the substance of the meeting was. it sounded like there were points of disagreement. no question, greg, that this president is not happy with his communications operation as it has been. i don't know if you saw sean spicer during the briefing today, but i have never seen him like that. he barely cracked a smile today. that is not the sean spicer we know. >> kimberly: john, just a real quick follow-up and then we will discuss at the table. it seems so far that as far as tillerson and dina powell and h.r. mcmaster were on point in

terms of consistent with their statement about what transpired. >> there was consistency among the principles, and of those were the three that go in there with the president. they were the senior administration officials, all oe the same page. you can expect that they might be it as well because they are all working on this together. the big question here, kimberly, is who is not on the same page? who thought it would be appropriate to leak to "the washington post" and now "the new york times" as well? such sensitive information as to what happened in that meeting. >> kimberly: highlyy inappropriate. thank you for your report, john. we will check in later. >> bob: can i just -- >> kimberly: dana had a comment about that. >> dana: the communications team again, i don't see how they could be at fault for this. they are not privy to that kind of classified information. other people shouldn't be,o clearly. i can understand why you don't share the information, but if

there are reasons that you have partnerships with third-party intelligence because you can't always be there, but those entities or sources don't necessarily want it to be know that they are hoping the united states of america because i could either disrupt the sources or show that a government that shouldn't be helping america is helping. that is probably the concern. part of the report on "the washington post" says that after the meeting concluded, the nsc contacted the nsa and the cia. i think that takes it out of the white house. i don't know if you have to hunt down people in the white house.e how do people in the white house know? now the communicators are on the hook for something they can't even comment on. when nsa documents were released in 2005 and it was not front page of the "new york times," there was still nothing to classify by the president so we had to say no comment all the time."n the communicators are in handcuffs. if you would have an internale white house meeting, don't do iw in the cabinet room. do it in the chiefs of staff's office, nobody can hear you.

>> greg: this is probably a very dumb question. are there transcripts of meetings like this? >> dana: probably not. someone in there might have been taking notes. i mean, either whether it's true or a flippant comment like now -- >> kimberly: you probably don't want anything leaving the room as well but especially because they get leaks under control and find out exactly who the person or individuals are that are causing this inner breach of national security, releasing information like this, highly inappropriate. >> dana: i don't think the leak to "the washington post"s, came from the white house. >> jesse: it probably came from one of the aides. >> dana: one of the agencies because they called the nsa and cia to alert them that this third-party source information has not been given to the russians. >> jesse: how would the nsa orha

the cia have access if they weren't in the meeting? >> greg: because they were contacted after, is what i understand. perhaps. >> kimberly: a former employee could have been -- >> dana: a former employee could have said they tracked it. >> jesse: maybe the russians were the leakers. to make trump look bad. >> greg: trump could have been the leaker to move the story away from comey. >> kimberly: i seriously doubt he would want to add more to that mess. >> bob: can i add for a t minute? the language into the security business, at least when i was in the white house, was restricted to the president and maybe four or five other people. this leak is a serious leak, nobody knew about it before. they gave the name of a city, which is in a country where isis controls that city. they got the information from a source in that city and a third party country had did that. they probably worked with us. the idea that this gets out with

us, do you think this third-party country will help us? let me finish. u let me finish! o the fact of the matter is, nobody knew the name of the city until this meeting took place. nobody! the other thing is that the russians are threatened by these computers, all you have to say is we have intelligence that says you might be in trouble too. trump did this and trump screwed himself. >> jesse: "the washington post" is wrong d about sean spicer hiding in the bushes. we also know that trump has been at war with the intelligence community for a very long time. they been leaking against him since before he began. can i just say one more thing? >> kimberly: i'm going to have to restart. >> jesse: when the obama white house put out in a press release, the name in afghanistan, expose them, that guy had to fly back. no one cares.

>> bob: that was not nearly as bad as this. your understanding is so -- >> jesse: your level of outrage -- >> bob: my outrage is that we have a city that was never named before. that hurts national security. >> kimberly: let's get greg in. you two are fighting like cats and dogs. >> greg: the story broke two hours ago and everybody is ripping apart. media is presenting two choices. "the washington post" made this. up "fake news." trump a hideous blender and they are covering it up. those are the only choices you are given when it's likely, andr we all know it is probably true, it is probably somewhere in the middle. trump being trump doesn't know the rules.

doesn't know what he supposed to say and he probably went a little too far. that to me sounds possible. the other thing that sounds plausible for me is that "the washington post" took a small blender and exaggerated it. these are two polarities that is something in the middle. >> bob: they didn't exaggerate that they had the name of a city, that they have the name of the country, and they refused to put it in at the request of the cia and nsa.am one thing we do know is true, before this meeting, nobody except a very few people knew about this.ry now everybody knows about it which means it had to come out of that meeting some way. maybe it wasn't trump. maybe it was an aide. the fact that as was discussed was disgusting.s s >> jesse: if you're a disloyal person, you go to "the washington post." if you are a loyal person, you take it to the superior.ya >> bob: if you are a source living in an isis city you will probably get killed because of this, it doesn't matter if it's a leak.

>> greg: the discussion isit that it didn't go beyond what is known. that is what he said that it was already in the public arena. this was about the laptops. what might be new at this piece is where they got the information from the cities. there might have been a blunder there but is it the mushroom cloud of "the washington post" or is it fake news? is in the middle. >> kimberly: in terms of what p the administration did here. i think it was important that they went ahead and addressed it immediately without letting the story start to fester. a specific statement from mcmaster, was one of the principles in the room, said the president and foreign minister reviewed threats from terrorist organization. that was also reporting from john roberts about the laptops,r we were receiving alerts about that.th at no time whether any intelligent sources or messages discussed and no military

operations were discussed that were not already known publiclyi that's the thing. >> bob: nobody knew the name of the city publicly. does it occur to any of you that nobody knew about this informant or the country or the city? after that meeting, they did. which means in that meeting it was discussed. somebody talked about it, somebody named the name of that city otherwise it wouldn't have gotten into the post. m the people say it's fake news are idiots.it the other thing about it is it's not a leak the story. it's about whether this informant is still alive, which i doubt, and whether this country is going to help us that's going to help us again. >> kimberly: and moving on now, the white house has a lit up in blues tonight in honor of our nation's finest who lost their lives in the line of duty. today is peace officers memorial day, which marks the start of national police week, a time of renewed importance as ae

law enforcement face constantly growing dangers.fi officer fatalities are up 39%or this year alone according to the national law enforcement officers memorial fund. think about that for a moment. while critics said the obama administration didn't fully back cops, president trump had a warning to anyone who dares to harm a police officer. >> the attacks on our police or a stain on the very fabric of our society and you are entitled to leadership at the highest level that will draw a bright line in the sand. not a red line in the sand that isn't gone over, but a bright line in the sand. we will protect you, that i can tell you, and we will say, enough is enough. >> kimberly: the president also had a compassionate message for the family members of slain officers. >> every child in america has lost a mom or dad and they want

of duty i want you to know that your parents are american heroes. american heroes. their sacrifice will never, ever be forgotten. to everyone in the audience here today, i want you to know that my administration is determined -- totally determined to restore law, order, and justice for all americans, and we are going to do it quickly. >> kimberly: very important message coming from the president of the united statess who has been very consistent with the promises he made it during his campaign to put law and order first, protect america, also have respect for the men and women that serve in blue. >> jesse: very powerful. the thing you can do and it really helps us go to a police officer and say two words, "thank you." i think everybody should do that. it's nice to have a president

honor the sacrifice and service of law enforcement. we haven't heard that a lot for the last eight years. and the family members. >> bob: groundhog day again. >> jesse: it's very nice to hear the good guys have support from the commander inlk chief. >> greg: you were talking about the campaign, and i think what trump had done was with the larger point in immigration or trade and that was that no one had called out the last three decades of antipolice ideology that you see in pop culture. it started really in the 70s0s and 80s that drove home this idea that we live in a police state and the police cannot be trusted.

this has been building for some time and i'm not talking about president obama. i'm talking about in our pop culture, in our pop culture, in our music, we associated the police with the bad guys. this was a win for trump that no one had gone after this. i think for the democrats, bob, they should re-examine their g stance and learn something from president trump that in the world of law and order, faithful law enforcement doesn't make yoo a racist and being tough on crime doesn't make you a bigot. it actually tries to stop crime helps minority communities. i think the democrats even though they have to re-examine the way they look at it. >> bob: the release was given -- i read that whole thing. he has playing some attention because he is -- here's the s problem. he has said we are not going to let that happen again, what are you going to do about it? are you going to send in troops? what president doesn't want to stop cops being killed?

if you say you were going to do something about it, we stop talking about it and do it. >> kimberly: are you taking opportunities to disparage when he in fact made a good statement and is totally consistent with what he is always promised and a focus on law and order into making sure police departments are protected. >> bob: how is he going to protect their lives? >> kimberly: to make sure that the police departments have adequate resources and not worry about the justice investigation for just doing their job. >> greg: there is a crisis in confidence and the belief that they weren't going to be backed up.. so they pulled back and that allowed crime to increase.so there was a dispute over whether this is true or not, but there are a lot of people that believe because the police pulled back,, you are seeing a rise in crime. what he is saying you have that confidence in support of this administration to do your job. we want you to do your job.

>> kimberly: dana. >> dana: there's not much left to say. i talked to a police chief today. he thinks the police officers are actually well resourced. they don't need stuff for more money. what they want -- this is what he said, that what they do appreciate is the moral support and the belief that they have the backing of the federal government. more important that that that this needs to trickle down to the state level because this pulling back, so called ferguson effect, that you are actually noticing the uptick in major metropolitan areas having crimes that they've been going down for 20 years. something definitely happened and he said it would actually help them to have this sort of support to know that they will be supported in going out and h doing their jobs. at the state level it's really

important to add that into the mix. >> kimberly: that level of communication and being able to express it thoroughly what they need and the resources and or support for their communities is important.ir >> dana: bob! >> bob: sorry, i have a cough. >> kimberly: i'm going to get bob a cough drop. ahead, one of bin laden's sons may be looking to take over the family business. he is vowing revenge for his father's death. is he in the next leader of al qaeda? we will explore next. stay with us. ♪ or get the outlander 450, starting at $5,499 visit your local dealer for details. can-am. the ride says it all.

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reinvigorated terror group and vowing to avenge his father's death. >> he is basically saying america and american people --e we are coming and you are going to feel it. we are going to take revenge for what you did to my father. we are going to revenge what you did in iraq. we're going to revenge what you did in afghanistan.ge absolutely, it's all about vengeance. we killed osama bin laden. his message lives. >> and there is a new messenger. his young, charismatic son. >> i think we are not done with the bin ladens yet. >> dana: he also has a pessimistic assessment of theqa current threat posed by al qaeda. >> if you look at al qaeda, they only have about 400 members. if you look at al qaeda today, they have thousands and thousands of members. all over the middle east, al qaeda is stronger than ever.

i don't believe even bin laden in his wildest dreams thought that we would have followers who command armies, troops, control lands. our extremely powerful geopolitical players as al qaeda today. >> dana: greg. talk with former intelligence personnel that said he worries al qaeda is patiently setting the table for something big, which means we have to be on our toes. >> greg: i have said it h before. this could be the day before something really bad. that makes 9/11 look small. i would love to see father and son reunite. i am all for that. the conflict boils down to for donald trump, i think. he is somebody who wants to stay out of things. this is my impression with war. it is not nationbuilding when you are killing terrorists. it simply killing them. killing terrorists isn't meddling in a country, it isn'te

a way to win a war. it is a global version of taking out the trash. if there's a leak in the apartment above you in that persons away, you have every right to go in there and plug that leak and that's what we have to do. we have to lift restrictions on fighting a look at it in a different way, cyber, biochemical, everything. nuclear and we have to treat it as though it's never going to end until as many as possible have been given a chance. >> dana: he doesn't have an experience on the battlefield with al qaeda, but what they can do have a franchise, they recruit, and they train and provide contacts and money. i've also heard, it possible that he is using the sun to fund his operation while he fightshe isis. >> kimberly: his family and his father were the head of a terrorist dynasty. some people will look to that

family for support and they will use him to recruit and a political way, to be able to get followers, to inspire people to radical jihadi. his brother was killed in the attack against his father and now he is the one left to carry on. he doesn't have operational battlefield experience, but perhaps the value he has is far greater than that to the terrorist organization because he may not be able to tell you how to go out into it but he is going to recruit people to get numbers and resources and financial means to be able to carry out terror. >> dana: president trump innd front of them has a decision that should be made last week but now it will probably wait until he goes to the nato meeting and that as to whether or not to reevaluate and to change our posture in afghanistan and possibly in the broader war on terror. >> jesse: i think is going to have to get more troops toafib t afghanistan. that's what the generals want and he's been very open toth giving the generals the power. i was thinking this is one of

the stories relate no one talks about homelessness and then a republican get there and all these homelessness doors popped up. remember how obama said gm is alive and they are on the run. this is a guy that works for the fbi that was in interrogations. that made me think what ever happened to enhancement issues, whatever happened black sites, when we were doing that and not just zapping people with guns, we were getting so much actual intelligence that we did have them on the run. and we did take out all the -- we need to get back to that with people on the ground, human intelligence capturing guys, stealing laptops. >> dana: what do you think the democrats will do? >> bob: a couple things that trump is facing here that we haven't talked about today and we probably should have, which is the north koreans shot off a

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therefore we need to continue to cultivate this environment that we are given the opportunity of health care and as well as job so that all the american citizens worldwide. >> greg: oh my precious ears. if that weren't enough, she then said this. >> as a woman scientists in the government, i would like to transpose the word feminism to "equalism." i don't want to considert myself -- i try not to consider myself this diehard -- i don't really care about this but one thing i'm going to say though is women are just as equal as men when it comes to opportunity in the workplace. >> greg: someone fetch thehe media a fainting couch.. that you just heard was an opinion not slathered and left wing dogma. it's a microaggression against the micro tolerant. beauty queens aren't simply being judged by judges but by the media, celebrities, and

jobless scrubs on twitter. the only way to escape mockery is to spout left wing trike. these questions are no longer a way to gauge the brain put a trap to respond media coverage. once you violate groupthink, that's a bigger news than the fact that the winner, kara, is a radio chemist and way smarter than the smarmy snot buckets are judging her. maybe that's what's really angering all of these rule tools. with this kara remind people of really?th reality. in reality were all men and women are equal under the law. the law cannot lock in people -w sorry. some people work harder and whine less. kara seems like that type of person, one who wasn't just winning a beauty pageant, but life as well. that just has to drive social justice warriors nuts.

maybe they can have their own pageant who can judge them on their misery.he i wouldn't watch it. dana, she said nuclear chemist -- i like the way that she invented a word equalism. and then they cheered! >> dana: if you listen to it, i there are a lot of girls in the audience and they cheered forf that because they are trying to find the next iteration because they do feel equal. if you look at her and she said -- i do think one thing she will find is that she continues to -- obviously want to her to be a nuclear scientist but if she ever tries to run for office one day there are traps that are said to you with questions like this and there are ways to get out of it. she would say if given anotherer chance is that, we are blessed to live in america where we are compassionate and we care for people can't provide health caro for and we tried it and encourage the free market have the lowest possible price. f >> greg: you improved your answer because that's a day later. >> dana: i had all day to think about it. >> greg: these pageant seemed to be designed to spark controversy.es >> jesse: they should have

asked about obamacare. she didn't really say anythingg that controversial. she is for jobs because jobs give health care. >> dana: the controversy is that she said "privilege" as opposed to a right. that will be the battle of 2020. absolutely. >> jesse: she also said she's not antimale, and that wasas controversial. >> dana: because she didn't want to have the title of feminist. >> jesse: she's not a hard-core, anti- -- >> dana: why am i explaining it to you? >> greg: jesse is saying an interesting point. we have contested the assumption by the media that health care is a right. do you dare question that?av it's over. bob, i am looking at you because you think it is a right. but where do rights come from? do they come from media?

>> bob: i got to be careful because i have been told to be careful what i say. everybody keeps telling me to be quiet. there are a number of things i want to say like this but i will be very careful because i don'ta want to say any think that upset people. she works in the government, she's very smart, she's got a wonderful career in front of her, she works for the government and provides really good health care. there are a lot of people who work who have no health care their employers.. i think she might think more about it. that's all i'm going to say, you guys. >> jesse: we pay for her health care. >> greg: the idea that she was trying to make was that it's good to tie health care to the job because it often drives people to get jobs. >> kimberly: she said that was one of the benefits or perks and therefore it's very good health care. i think she sang it from the perspective of being appreciative and think it makes sense. if you want to have great health care, get a job and put

yourself out in the revenue stream. >> bob: the vast majority of jobs don't provide health care. it is in fact true. >> jesse: 70% of the country gets their health care from their employer. >> kimberly: what was interesting about her and her background, in 2013 the goes with her theme, is i equalism saying i am empowered as an individual to do and achieve as you over there. >> greg: i sense a future fox news employee. >> kimberly: or a future president. she makes up words. >> greg: i think a fox news host. directly ahead, obama's defense secretary had a nice thing to say about trump's leadership style.e. that's up next.

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in government, i am a strong believer in the form of government agencies. they have gotten fat and sloppy. i also think on the foreign policy side that there is a need for disruption. >> bob: jesse, since you didn't get a block here. go ahead. >> jesse: electing president trump was throwing a hail mary. the system wasn't working, system was corrupt, we had a trillion dollar debt, this country was losing on trade, the economy wasn't recovering that strongly from the recession. you have a guy coming over here and what you expect when he flipped the table over? if things weren't working, try new things. >> dana: disruption is basically meant to do several things. it is not just about equality is about to make something simpler, cheaper, more assessable. it's not always the best answerb

it can be but it's like wikipedia replaced britannica as an example. i think from destruction, if you try to do it with government, it's a very messy and public and we all own it. everyone is super invested andy if you are against trump, all of the disruption makes you extreme uncomfortable. if you are for him, that is amazing and brilliant. there is no doubt that the government needs some shaking up. >> bob: greg. >> greg: i actually wrote this.ve i have an article about this. the idea that with donald trump is hard to divorce his personality from his policy. that's why it is so hard. my advice is he might try to dos that, to separate it, because i know a lot of people who agree with him but find him exhausting and crazy. he's a tiresome boss because his unpredictability always keeps you -- what's he going to do next? then you find out you kind of agree with him on a lot of

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imagine how they must feel. i got a call on the foxnews.com/opinion wanting to live and love in an era of trump anxiety. now it is time for greg's secret to happiness with unicorns. when you can't reach a goal, maybe the goal must reach you. take this little guy here, couldn't reach that little piece of fruit, but you know what he did, he figured out a way for the fruit to reach him. he also got a little jot exercise at the same time. i have no idea. they are all the same. >> kimberly: that was fascinating. jesse, what do you have for us? >> jesse: jesse's sports moment. d the british racing season is upon us. this is what people do for fun. they are going around and around and they are cutting the lawnun

and are probably drinking heavily. i will be there next year. >> bob: yesterday in china, vladimir putin decided to play the piano. take a listen. >> it was out of tune. >> bob: you know what putin said? it was out of tune. >> kimberly: it's time now for kimberly's food court. fantastic and delicious at the same time. guess what today is if you haven't taken a look at the table, it's national chocolate chip day. this is kind of exciting so we brought in gigantic cookies to make the point. did you know chocolate chip cookies were invented in the late 1930s of the owner of the tollhouse? that we get tollhouse cookies. i didn't know that until now. we want to pass it out to our

friends here since we are also friends. sean hannity is up next. ♪ >> sean: thanks from my friends over at "the five." laura ingraham, jay sekulow, monica crowley, geraldo rivera. major breaking news tonight. sara carter will join us. before i get to my opening monologue, i've got a message. enough with the self-serving leaks. there are dozens and dozens of leaks to the press coming from inside the white house. an article from politico last week included 31 sources. "the new york times" did 13 and tonight "the washington post" is even reporting that current and former u.s. officials are saying that president trump revealed classified information to russian officials.