night. in the meantime, send me a tweet, @marthamaccallum. ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. the trump administration is strongly denying a report tonight that president trump may have revealed classified intelligence to the ambassador from russia and the foreign minister from that country during a meeting at the white house last week. good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." in a moment, we will discuss the mass hysteria around the question of russia and its effect on this country. none of it good. first, a new report from "the washington post" claims that president trump may have compromised an intelligence source on the islamic states. the news is roiling washington, true or not. fox news white house correspondent john roberts has more on this. >> just checking my email for the very latest, talking with

some folks of the white house tonight. they are very troubled, obviously, that the story got out. they are trying to figure out how it got out, how all of this happened. it was a very small circle, tucker. you had the principles, the president, secretary of state rex tillerson, h.r. mcmaster, there were national security advisor, the deputy national security advisor for strategy, dina powell, then, a handful of aids in the oval office, as well on the russian side. you had to the foreign ministers foreign minister sergey lavrov, the russian ambassador to the united states, sergey kislyak. they would have had some people there, as well. "the washington post" in breaking the story is quoting current and former u.s. officials. so, somebody dished the contents of that meeting. what happens in terms of this intelligence to current and u.s. officials. we don't know what the actual content of this was. but it it is said to be dealing with intelligence regarding with threats to our security,

particularity, threats to our airlines. this may be relevant to the stories we have been telling you about laptops being banned on airplanes coming to the united states from the middle east and now europe. we have a number of statements that we have received from the white house dressed in the last few minutes. first of all, from rocks with tillerson, secretary of state, during president trump's meetings, a broad range of subjects were suggest. they did not discussed sources, methods, or military operations. the statement row from h.r. mcmaster, who is a national security advisor, when he came out to stakeout just a few minutes ago, and read this and then did not take any questions. let's watch here. >> there is nothing of the president takes more seriously than the security of the american people. the story that came out tonight as reported is false. the president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two

countries, including threats to civil aviation. at no time, at no time, were intelligent sources or methods discussed creative and the president did not disclose any military operations that were publicly known. two other senior officials that were present, including the secretary of state, remember the beating the same way and have said so. they are on the record and should outweigh the cons of anonymous sources. i was in the room. it didn't happen. thanks, everybody. thanks. >> tucker: h.r. mcmaster sing te president did not inappropriately leaked classified information. don't forget, tucker, when you are the president, you are allowed to release anything you want. the reaction in the white house, somewhat shocked. talking with an administration official that told me that the fact that someone would like this is "astonishing, shows an extraordinary lack of concern for national security." i am not sure how much more we will find out this evening. the communication shop has that

they are done talking about this. because this information was classified, tucker, it's not known how much level of detail we'll be able to get on all of this. we'll keep plugging away. tucker. >> tucker: thanks a lot, john. it's almost like they are people in washington who like to undermine the relationship between u.s. and russia. back to the question of hysteria. critics of the media often say that donald trump is to administering the american partisan sea and a time there is truth to that. but it is also true that in covering trump the way that they have, many journalists have degraded and humiliated themselves. their callous examples of this but watch this one, as a maker from another network describes a conversation she had last year with kellyanne conway. >> this is a woman, by the way, who came on our show during the campaign, and what a shell for trump, and extensive fashion, then, she would get off the air, the camera would be turned off, the microphones taken off, and she would say, i

need to take a shower. because she disliked her candidate so much. >> tucker: i have no idea if kellyanne conway actually said anything like that. i do know that tv anchors almost never reveal what their gas have set off camera and for good reason. people come to tv studios so they can speak on tv. they do not come to the expectation that the private conversations will be broadcast to the country, especially when they are not present to defend themselves. in the more than 20 years of working to become i have never seen that happen, trust me, i've heard a lot of weird things on and off the air. television networks don't have his and dumb i can in a bathroom for the same reason. even in media, there is privacy, those are the rules, or they were the rules, that was before nbc videotape donald trump without his knowledge and then leaked that tape 11 years later to "the washington post" in an effort to destroy his presidential campaign. that was not news coverage. it was political activism committed by news outlets. but none of the usual media watchdog types said a word about it. then or now because of trump,

all bets are off. many journalists believe it is literally impossible to be unfair to donald trump or the people who work for him. extremism in the pursuit of trump is no vice. that is the view in newsrooms. you hear tim conversations all around washington. a city devoted 91% for hillary clinton last fall, media figures, smart people, people who had perspective, they don't anymore. they have succumbed to trump hatred that is so intense, it has destroyed their judgment and in some cases, affected their character. i see it all the time, normal people see the president's flaws and they do exist, they see crimes and conspiracies. the rest of us may complain that trump is on dumb like undisciplined and impulsive, fair. they regard him as a single greatest threat to westerns of levitt dacians sends atomic weapons. watch. >> i think this is a potentially marcy dangerous situation on watergate. there is a cover-up going on on to keep us from going numb back

knowing what happened here. >> tucker: a cover-up of what exactly? that part is often alleged but never explained because it is not necessary to explain it. the speaker isn't offering analysis, he is preaching to those who are already converted. his listeners already know that donald trump are evil. they don't need details, they want a sermon. instruments are mostly what they are getting these days. >> donald trump, and much of his rhetoric, and many of his actions, poses a danger to american democracy. >> tucker: wait, did you say democracy? what with these people know about democracy? is under the same group that calls on the republican party tf his nomination of the g.o.p. convention? i think it is. the same one that calls for the presidency to be taken from trump at the electoral college before his inauguration? even as they call for trump's removal from office, just four months of his job, democracy, what you are looking at is a kind of conflict of interest. we don't allow reporters to

cover their spouses or kids. why don't we? because they wouldn't be able to see clearly. their emotions what cloud their judgment. they are level given the way a fair coverage. hate has the same effect on people. it destroys your view of reality. in the end, it blinds you completely. that is where the american media are right now, stumbling around in a sightless rage, screaming. somebody ought to reel them in before they hurt themselves in ways that can't be fixed. byron york has been around for a long time. he is the chief political correspondent for the the "washington examiner" and he joins us. byron, i am not defending the president in noting that something in the coverage of him is different than i have seen in 30 years and it is bad. >> and the mika brzezinski kellyanne conway think i'm i think it is a special case. there is a drama that has gone on between joe and mika, kind of a codependent relationship, msnbc, that program at least, was quite positive to

donald trump for quite a while, then, they got really down on him but it has gone back and forth. >> tucker: all the times i've had someone sit on the side, we have seen it a million times, a democratic member of congress say something nasty about his party or give a nuanced view of something, i would never even consider revealing that on the air because it is a private conversation. >> in a larger sense, i do think there was a realization, as trump neared the nomination last year, and it became clear that he was not going to go away come i think there was a realization that among some of the press, they thought that the threat that trump presented was so severe, so dire, that they needed to change the way did business. people in the press spoke openly, "the new york times" said that we will call out the lies. indeed, he began to see the word lies and false and falsely claimed to not kind of stuff anf new stories, that you had not seen before. they felt it was important to change the way they operated to some of the standards that they

observed for many, many years. >> tucker: some of those standards are immutable. it doesn't matter who you are covering. you are assigned to cover idi amin, you still have to be fair, you have to tell the truth, you can't ally in the service of a political agenda, period, or you are not a jural analysis. why don't they pull themselves out of the game when they can't be fair? >> let me give you an example of a spreading further than just journalism, it touches on journalism. in 1964, barry goldwater running for president, a magazine published an article which are number of psychiatrists said that he was a psychologically ue president. after the election, goldwater sues for libel and wins. something called the goldwater rule emerges in the psychiatric perfection, which is, you don't pronounce on the mental connection of a person you have not examined. >> tucker: [laughs] go to call. >> that goldwater role stays in effect for 50 years until now. and now, you are seeing psychiatrists, psychologists all over the place, talking about

donald trump. this is from an article in the new yorker just recently, said, with regard to trump, however, the goldwater role has been broken repeatedly, more than 50,000 mental health professionals have signed a petition stating that trump is "too seriously mentally ill to perform the duties of president." >> tucker: there is something about this president that brings out the worst in his enemies. here's the the fundamental question, though. is not simply a matter of being blinded to trump and hating so trump that you can't cover him fairly, though that is happening. they have suspended judgment on the other side because they just like trump so much they are withholding any kind of tough coverage on his opponents come on the left, and that is just lying. >> it is. there is no doubt about it. first of all, trump is the biggest story, there is no doubt that donald trump is the biggest story, he's president of the united states, the president is always the biggest story. but i think what has happen, the white house has come to eat all

of their news coverage. and we aren't seeing very much on the opposition. there is a belief, i think, you see this sometimes, if trump says it, it's wrong, and of people who are calling him on him are criticizing him are therefore right. >> tucker: that is the assumption and it is really distorting all of us. is destroying our media. byron, thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: the most irate elements of the left seem to have moved from protesting to rioting, to violence, political violence. up next, we will ask the leader of the anti-trappers instance by some on the left are embracing violence and why no one is saying that. also, a journalist who came out as conservative or repeatedly shouted down during a speech in oregon. he will be here to talk about the encounter with the my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing.

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[chanting] [whistle blowing] >> tucker: kevin z's is the codirector of popular resistance, a -- the aim of making this country "ungovernable," until president trump leaves office. he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. so, what is your home address? >> 402 402 lake avenue in balt. >> tucker: how would you feel if viewers who disagreed with what you said showed up at your house and started screaming at your kids. >> i don't have any kids but they would be targeting the wrong person. i'm not a public official, i am not putting in place our proposals for changes in law, that creamer has former employees. >> tucker: i should say the reason i'm asking the question, what you alluded to, the fcc commissioner who is backing policies that you disagree witht

they hassle his family. >> his house is off the road behind another house and we were standing outside in a public sidewalk, holding signs, saying support net neutrality. we were not threatening anybody -- coast be what i'm not saying that you did anything illegal. i am saying is awful. >> it's not awful. we did the same thing to tom wheeler when he was the fcc chair. it helped to finally convince them to do the right thing. >> tucker: because you are threatening at home. why not go to his office? why not write a piece for "the new york times"? why not come out on this show? >> because he is not listening to us. he is making the decision. he will repeal hundred neutrality. they will let comcast -- you just agree with the policy. >> i disagree with the approach. he is our decided the issue. >> tucker: how do you know? >> because he said it. he made public speeches. >> tucker: he's got opinions, you've got opinions. the point is, you were going to his house come about as a

threat. >> he is no longer a verizon lawyer. >> tucker: i am not here to defend his views of network neutrality. i am here to defend that you can have a reasonable conversation without threatening someone. >> the reason i will go to his house is because he does not listen to people. >> tucker: why do you represent the people more than he does? >> he has more comments ever then in the last campaign, on the fcc camped on my comp and page, -- when tom wheeler didn't listen to those people, we want to his house, too. >> tucker: his candidate won a presidential election, are you kidding me? >> it doesn't matter. >> tucker: how does our system. >> it requires a legislative process in order to make decisions. you have to evaluate the comments fairly, you can't have a biased opinion. he is still acting like a verizon lawyer. we want him to hear us. >> tucker: why not just his him in the face? >> that is not going to work

played >> tucker: if it did work, what do? >> we want him to hear us. we want him to hear us and we want the movement to build. the movement didn't build, i don't think violence will be an effective tactic >> tucker: it is implied violence when you show up at someone's house. it's a threat. >> be intentionally made no threats. >> tucker: when your side of the issue of smashing store windows, dressed in masks, hurting other people, i don't understand your lawyer, you are a reasonable guy, why don't you stand up and say that you are discrediting me? what you are doing is immoral. nobody ever said that because you agree with their aims. >> we understand people have diffen and their choices -- >> tucker: is not a legitimate tactic? >> in my view, our goal -- >> tucker: look at what is on the screen. >> you don't build a ms movement -- >> tucker: is not a legitimate tactic to smash windows? >> that people who organize. >> tucker: there is time

worries using violence -- i'm asking you a philosophical question. >> i can't ask answer any question when violence is appropriate. if someone is attacking them. -- under attacked and -- >> tucker: there is no other sightedness, they are destroying property, they are not under attack, they are destroying things that do not belong to them and the name of a political aim. >> to me, that is not effective. >> tucker: because there is a moral question. you are arguing on moral grounds, that is what you do. >> the effectiveness -- i would rather talk about factual grounds, like not neutrality, like i came here to discuss. >> tucker: what you are doing when you show up at somebody's house if you are ending a discussion. >> we are starting a discussion. >> tucker: you are intimidating the crap out of them. >> we are not doing anything to threaten anybody. >> tucker: i don't show up at my house. you wouldn't be bothered or people show up at your house? if they say, you are a public

figure, i am showing up at your house in baltimore and i will hang out there and yell at you. >> let's see what happens. >> tucker: what would you do? them. >> tucker: you would come a really? >> i would ignore them. >> tucker: i wouldn't. >> in the end, they are not greatly -- they are going to lo. this is the one tactic of money that we will use for the net neutrality play. it is about saving the free market. that is what it is about. your viewers don't understand it, you waste all my time -- >> tucker: you are wasting my time by arguing -- >> the issue is, is not neutrality good or bad for the economy? >> tucker: i think that is a fair argument but i can't even hear you when you use tactics like that. >> you should open your ears up. >> tucker: kevin, thank you. ♪ >> tucker: chadwick moore is a

gay man and journalist and new yorker, and he is finding out how intolerant the left can be when he -- he recently appeared at portland state to deliver a speech. activists greeted him with signs and repeatedly interrupted his speech. >> i am black, and disabled, -- i hope we can all work together. >> i hope so, too. it would be really nice -- >> tucker: chadwick moore made it out of there in one piece and he joins us now. thank you for coming on. what were you trying to say, and why the response to you, like that? why wouldn't they hear what you

had to say? >> we were giving a talk about free speech and we were giving a talk about orthodoxy on campus. repeatedly, the students would talk over me because they had no arguments. this was a new tactic to disrupt the speech to make sure other people couldn't hear what i was saying, trying to throw me off. they simply aren't educated enough today in school to properly argue. none of them stayed for the q and a day because they coded question when i was saying. they don't have any talking points, they are not being taught the other side at all. >> tucker: was there anyone in the room clever enough to catch the ironing? someone trying to defend free speech being shot down? did anybody see that part of it? >> oh, yeah off course. that is the great irony. we are seeing this all over. the attacks on free speech, they are nothing new to american society are in a society across the world. they come when the elite feel threatened, when their objectives are being threatened, then, we start to see

censorship. it is very interesting that the most powerful people in the democratic party, where are the dog catchers on the democratic party? they are feral animals running around on the left, attacking everyone. the democratic party and the media are not telling us to stop. they are not standing up for the constitutional first amendment rights. it is very surprising and they are not winning any heart or mind in this country by letting this behavior continued. >> tucker: but they don't care. what you are happening here is the people in power are being threatened and that is the ferocious response. the middle class voted one way in the last election. the people in charge of everything lost control at their own power ebbing away and they decided to put a lid on it. as any university you have been to so far made any effort to defend your right to say what you think? >> i have seen nothing officially from universities. they are our small student groups, mostly republican group, freethinking groups, who are defending this. i have not seen any administration standing up, they

don't stand up for the promotional materials being torn down, desecrated. i haven't seen -- there is silence from professors and administrators. >> tucker: so, you became a nonliberal, i'm not sure how you classify yourself -- >> right-wing extremists. [laughter] >> tucker: you left conventional liberalism later in life. are you surprised by the response you were getting? >> absolutely. but what i am most surprised about is the right spots on the right, the warmth and the embrace and the acceptance, the community that i found on the ry amazing. when i came out of the conservative, i didn't know what awaited me. i didn't know any conservatives really, now i have this whole new community. it's been great and supportive. the left is just -- they are in their death throes right now. >> tucker: none of it is surprising me. kevin, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: a computer bug, a nasty one, has disabled hundreds of thousands of computers over the world in the past few days. up next, we will talk about

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so far, america has avoided the worst effects of the attack. what are your files at risk? they might be. a cyber security expert and a senior fellow at the center for digital government, he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. because you bet, tucker. >> tucker: how bad was this and why hasn't the united states been affected in the way other countries happen? >> number one, compared to the huge service attack, this is orders of magnitude worse than that. it hit 150 countries, like you said, hundreds of thousands of computers. just from a scale of magnitude, it was huge. why the u.s. hasn't been affected, good question. i think part of it as the attack is based upon fishing and spearfishing. we have become aware of the phishing attacks. you have to click on the link in the email. part of it, too, a heightened sense of security of making sure that you passed thing. microsoft is in the u.s., so people tend to follow that more. we are not immune from it. hospitals are definitely not immune. >> tucker: what is the part of an attack like that? >> money.

this is capitalism. on the bad side to visit. they do -- ranswomware is designed to get ransom. they are encrypted, you can get them back. if you can't pay for them, there is a call, a timer, just like at a football or basketball game, it counts down, you have to pay the money. >> tucker: if you pay the money, you get your files back? >> that is how it is supposed to work for that is the way it is not working. right now, about $170,000 has been received. according to the fbi and the dhs, nobody has gotten our files back. >> tucker: how to get that from getting it to your computer? >> it sounds so cliche but you are the first line of your defense. just don't click on those links. a lot of people see an email come in, that is why they are worried, when asia came back to work, they were off with us attack started. you got to be worried if your links. there is a trick i talk about, you can take your mouse and hover over a link, let it sit there and it will expose with the link is behind it. i can put tucker carlson.com and redirected to cnn.com if i wanted, not that i would, but i could if i want to do.

if you don't know what is behind the link. back up your information. a lot of people, bed star in the washington, d.c., area, victim of a ranswomware attack but thee backup policy and they were able to recover. when microsoft puts out a patch, it is not a suggestion. you really need to update your systems. upgrade your systems. many of these affected systems were not officially supported by microsoft. >> tucker: is this just for desktops and laptops or ipods, ipads, phones affected? >> no, the apple products aren't affected right now. it only affects a vulnerability in windows. because it is a warm, it's not a virus, the second part of this payload, part of what they thought for the nsa tools from a shadow broker, this thing was able to self replicate very much the way that stutz not warmed it in the end brady and centrifuges. it worked its way through the system and attacked everything that was vulnerable. >> tucker: don't click on links. suspicious. and get apple rather than microsoft. >> [laughs]

i use max. >> tucker: really quickly, is as a threat to our basic infrastructure, air travel, could this bring countries to its knees? >> ed code. how we dodge the bullet, it may just be pure luck. tucker, you have to realize how fast this thing spread. it did hit critical infrastructure, edited banks, to hospitals, hospitals and one of the ones that i worry about most. if they do an overdraft, they don't fall over. in a hospital, they could die from locking up records, patient medications. we are not out of the woods on this yet. >> tucker: morgan rice, thanks. >> you bet, tucker. >> tucker: venezuela has the largest reserves in the world yet people are starving. why? economics 101. up next, we'll talk to the socialist who says the failure of venezuela's economy shows the problem was not with socialism but with america's capitalism. then, michelle obama claims president trump canceled her school lunch program because he doesn't like children.

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♪ >> tucker: the american left is celebrating venezuela's socialist economic model for a long time and called for its imitation elsewhere. unfortunately, as you just saw, the model appears to be encountering some fairly predictable difficulties recently with violence, political unrest, even starvation now sweeping the country, which by the way, is --

does the left still think that socialism works? to? dakota lily is with the group students on youth for a new america. dakota, thanks a lot for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: do you see a pattern here? it is not just venezuela, but is also 1970s bulgaria, romania and albania and the soviet union and cuba, north korea, every country that has tried this economic system winds up in poverty. so, do you see a connection between all of these cases? >> tucker, what i think is extremely important, we need to acknowledge that what venezuela is currently facing right now is terrorism at the hands of the opposition. the opposition has bombed schools, they have bonked buses, they have taken wiring and strong at a crossroads to be had cops on motorcycles. these aren't choirboys. these are violent extremists hell-bent on taking away the progress venezuela has made of the past few years. >> tucker: who has got the guns and venezuela? private gun ownership is obviously illegal in venezuela,

so, the overwhelming majority of firearms are in the hands of the government. so, how can the opposition to the government to be the ones perpetrating environments? >> tucker, if you look at the casualties that have happened in the past few months and these protests, the majority of those that have been killed have been done advocated people, people on the left. obviously, the people that are being targeted are ones that support the government. >> tucker: to dakotah come i don't want to rock your world, but i think ribose statistics are hard to come by under the maduro government, which controls come of course, the statistics coming out of venezuela. the bottom line, the country has had a socialist government for over ten years, it has become poorer every year despite having the world's largest oil reserves. does that give you any cause to think this whole socialism thing doesn't work that well? it has never worked anywhere, it is not working again. maybe there is a lesson for me as a young american.

no? >> tucker, everyone in venezuela, including the president, nicolas maduro, acknowledges that reforms are needed and things like food distribution and elsewhere. but very few if any one of venezuela wants to go back to the years of unbridled capitalism. so much so that the leader of the opposition, enrique cap relays, calls himself a socialist. >> tucker: presumably, he means something different. it is your spanish pretty good? you have a pretty good handle on popular opinion in venezuela? how would you know what the majority of people in venezuela want to? >> all you have to do is look at the astounding amount of elections that have been held over the past few years, ever since the early 2,000 ands when chavez came in. people have come a time and time again to vote for the united socialist party, to vote for constitutional referendums, and to vote for hugo chavez and nicolas maduro in elections that have been certified by international observers, like the carter center. >> tucker: so, you really think that the government of venezuela is on the level that

it is the purely democratic government, that it's basically successful economically, how can you think that? have you spent a lot of time there? have you talked to a lot of people about it? what gives you that idea? >> while, tucker, if you look ae international observers that have certified these elections, i mean, what stake does jimmy carter and the carter center have in defining fraudulent elections that are democratic? i think most people, if you look at the violence that has happened after these elections, every time the government has won an election, there has been mass violence. yet, the one time the opposition won in december, there was no violence. plus, at the end of the day, what stake to american working families have in the united states meddling in internal affairs in venezuela? >> tucker: i don't think it is a question that the united states meddling in internal affairs in venezuela, i think it is just a total disaster, they don't have toilet

paper and parts of the country. people are starving and watch was pretty recently, i visited as a kid, a rich country, a country making progress, to first world status, now, it is a disaster, one of the highest crime rates in the world. the shop is a maduro people did that. why not just say that? why they make excuses? >> like i said, everyone in the government acknowledges that thing like crime are too high and reforms are needed. that is something that was mentioned by chavez before he died in something that is still mentioned by nicolas maduro. but in terms of economics, the distinctions that the united states has put on venezuela, and the hoarding done by multinational corporations and venezuela certainly doesn't help the situation. >> tucker: okay, but that's not the real problem. the supreme court shut down the congress in venezuela. if you believe in democracy and you think people ought to have a say in the government, if the government is shutting down congress, that is authoritarian. again, as an american, why would you make excuses for that?

you are not venezuelan. you don't have to pretend this is going well. it's a total disaster, why not just say so? >> tucker, if you look at the acquisitions that were leveled against a national assembly, they were legitimate accusations. people believed that certain members of the national assembly had been illegally inaugurated. and that is why the supreme court struck it down, which was then rescinded just a few days later. >> tucker: i don't want to be -- you are so young -- it's just, people i guess in college believe anything. but it just seems like, of all of the things that we debate, whether or not venezuela is a success, does seem to have moved into the beyond their weight category. it's like a total disaster. i don't know. if you don't see that i probably won't convince you. but thanks for joining us, dakotah. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: the left loves diversity of skin color provided that it doesn't include diversity of thought, as well.

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♪ >> tucker: can you imagine working in the news business right now? there is so much out there, so much weird news, we need an entire segment to evaluate what is the strangers. it is called "top that." our panel, from the "washington examiner," and catherine lyons, managing edito. catherine coming to you first. >> a nonpolitical news, that is not political, sound bite from the miss usa pageant.

>> do you think affordable health care for all u.s. citizens is a right white privilege and why? >> i'm definitely going to say it is a privilege. as a government employee, i am granted health care. and i see firsthand that for one to have health care, you need to have jobs. therefore, we need to continue to cultivate this environment that we are given the opportunity of health care as well as jobs to all the american citizens worldwide. >> first of all, kudos to these back-to-back-to-back you miss usa champs. second of all, she is a 25-year-old nuclear scientist. she works with the regulatory commission. i don't even know what half of those words mean. we are concentrating on her answers to miss usa -- >> tucker: which he attacked for this? >> she is criticized, saying that her answers lean a little too conservative when i came to health care and feminism. she would rather talk about equalism. she used the word "transpose,"

that has to be points and scrabble, right? >> tucker: [laughs] she is being attacked for not saying that health care is a right rather than a privilege? >> right. >> tucker: huh. i think she did a pretty good job as far as i'm concerned. can you beat that? >> tucker, i am pretty easy-going, not much offended me. i was deeply offended by the romp him. a rothberg armor that has become very popular with women, now made for men. if you take this as some sort of elaborate performance art about the decline of american masculinity, it is almost admirable. but this has raised over $50,000 from kickstarter. there are people who are taking it seriously enough to put their money where their mouth is. now, look, if men want to wear a one-piece garment, flight suit, the type of thing you have to wear to work in a mechanic shop, a factory, all about it. but this -- ed is the birth of the thing possible from a flight to that you can think of.

this was just -- >> tucker: a onesie for man? >> a short onesie for men. >> tucker: would men actually buy it? >> if this had just been a joke, i would say, funny. but it has raised over $15,000 on kickstarter from people who would like to purchase one in hopes that it is the fashion trend -- >> tucker: i would have to believe that the people spending money if that's on kickstarter are doing this ironically. >> one hopes. >> tucker: actual man will not be seen wearing this. on the other hand, i believe sincerely that there are a lot of people out there who are deeply offended by miss washington d.c. saying it was a privilege rather than a right. so, you win. but you come back when you see people on the street wearing the onesie. we'll do a whole segment on it. >> okay. fantastic. >> tucker: thank you, both. very much. michelle obama is back in the news, making her first public speaking appearance and she left the white house. she used her to convey the fact that her husband's successor doesn't like children.

we'll tell you what she said coming up.

>> tucker: well, michelle obama has no idea why people didn't like her school lunch programs. the former first lady made her first public speaking appearances leaving the white house last friday and she used it to complaint about the trump administration's rollback of the school lunch initiative. >> this is where you really have to look at motives. you have to stop and think, why don't you want our kids to have good food at school? what is wrong with you? [applause] and why is that a partisan issu issue? why would that be political? what is going on? >> tucker: you are a bad person if you don't agree with me. you hear the former first lady tell us the only possible reason

to cancel her program is if you hate kids. but in this alternate reality that we call real life, you can pick up other reasons. this good food was actually disgusting a lot of times. it dozens of readily available pictures will attest. a lot of this food were in the garbage. once found that food and vegetable waste went up by 60% under michelle obama's program. despite all that food getting tossed out, the program still wasn't bringing down childhood obesity which continues to rise in this country. kids aren't the only ones getting grossed out though. the country's largest organization of school nutrition amazingly praised the trump administration's decision, saying school's much-needed budgetary and culinary flexibility. but apparently and michelle obama's moral universe, it simply that she likes kids and anyone that disagrees with her hates kids. that's her position. our position as we are out of time. tune in every night at 8:00 who is this warm enemy of mine,

pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. if you haven't already, dvr. our friends from jackie 321 ary to go in new york. ha night. ♪ >> kimberly: hello everyone this is a fox news alert. the white house pushing back against the bombshell "washington post" report in the headlight of the poster is that trump revealed highly classified information to russian foreign minister and the ambassador. national security advisor h.r. mcmaster denied the report. >> there is nothing that the president takes more seriously than the security of our people. the story that came out tonight reported is false. the president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries including threats to civil aviation. at no time -- at no