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♪ >> tucker: whether you support the president or not, it seems clear that has white house has been slow down, not immobilized, by recent advance. immigration reform on obamacare repeal have been brushed off the agenda for now, replaced by constant flareups over james comey, russia, or some of the presidents tweeting. trump is still the president and his party still controls congress for another 18 months at minimum. how can the white house get its mojo back and reclaim its freedom of action? this is a question that charles krauthammer has pondered. he is a writer, a columnist, and a psychiatrist and your favorite thinker, and he joins us now. charles, what can the white house to? if you are to give them five pieces of advice, what would it be? >> i think you take your playbook from bill clinton. he was tied up in the lewinsky scandal, in his case, he knows he is lying from the beginning. he keeps on lying. but he was able to keep a straight face, try to keep his nose to the business he wanted

to carry out, the famous statement, "i did not have sexual relations" ends with i'm going to go back to work. he pretended as if this thing was a distraction. he went back to work. what trump needs to do is spend less effort and time and emotional energy on this, starting with, you make an unimpeachable fbi director appointment. right now, he needs to calm the craziness. i think he actually was helped by the appointment of the special counsel. even though, in the long run, it means the white house loses control of it. in the short run, people say, there is an investigation, let's talk about health care, let's talk about tax reform. that will take care of it. it's a way to deflect. if you make a good appointment for the fbi, by good, i mean politically astute, which means somebody unimpeachable on

"special report," i said you need a eliot ness. that gives you a lot of points and allows you to move onto other stuff. that would be my number one. >> tucker: was number two? >> stop tweeting. that is never going to happen because i think he is hardwired, like neurologically, attached to his tweeting machine. but it would help because when you tweet, you see what you really believe and that is not always -- it's not usually the smartest thing in politics. >> tucker: [laughs] >> i tell the truth because it is easier to memorize. but i am not the president, a politician. >> tucker: [laughs] true. >> a gap in washington is when the politician accidentally tells the truth. they are so much emotional truth pouring out of the presidents tweeting machine that he gets in trouble. >> tucker: too much reality. >> number three, go on the foreign trip. thereby, number four code, change the narrative. he has a real opportunity. there is going to be a big deal

what happens in saudi arabia. there are going to be 50 sunni arab countries there. there is going to announcement to the world of the total reversal of the obama era iran appeasement policy. we chose a radical shiite regime. we chose their favor over the sunni arabs who want to do support us and over israel, which will be stopped number two. that will be a big deal. it will allow him to announce and really exemplify a huge change in foreign policy. the last thing is, daily sessions with dr. krauthammer. >> tucker: [laughs] >> i'm still licensed, board-certified, and he's the only one who could afford my rates. >> tucker: can you give us a sense of the range of your rates? >> they start -- let's say they start in the stratosphere. in his case, i would double that. >> tucker: our viewers have been getting your services for the price only of a monthly

cable subscription. >> i know. i am truly underpaid. >> tucker: [laughs] last question. you think the president can follow at least the first four of these? >> he is making his trip. he doesn't easily compartmentalize. he doesn't have that kind of almost psychopathic ability to make distinctions, as clinton did. i think he gets sort of into anything, and it takes them ove over. i don't think he can but that is why he needs to see me. probably for an hour a day for several years. >> tucker: [laughs] do you have visiting hours? >> by appointment only. >> tucker: [laughs] dr. charles krauthammer. fantastic. thank you. >> sure. >> tucker: the economist magazine predicted economic clout of any of donald trump won. he did. the lights are still on. what happened? we'll talk to one of the we'll talk to one of the economist expert forecasters

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>> tucker: if i were to take you through a time warp to a distant, unfathomably different era, march 2016. back then, when i trump presidency he still seemed ludicrous, laughably unlikely possibility, the economist magazine declared that donald trump was on the biggest threats to the world economy. american voters clearly don't read the economist and here we are six months later, the economy destroyed? not really. the gloomy predictions about trump, and he is brave enough tr

them. thanks a lot for joining us tonight. one of my personal obsessions, not just with a trump election, but just with all of the predictions one hears in our business, is that nobody ever stands up and says that "i was wrong." the pleasure of hearing you say that will make my day. how did you get it so wrong? >> nothing will give me greater pleasure than making your day. but we haven't gotten it wrong yet. >> tucker: [laughs] really? >> we are four months in a four year presidency. we will see where we end up. you are not completely wrong. we were a little bit off in some places because it hasn't gone as badly as we feared. in many ways, we avoided the worst, and we are still helping a little bit for the past. when i talk about the worst, global trade wars, trump had branded trying to the biggest currency manipulator in history. change his mind for whatever reason. and he thinks that china isn't a currency manipulator. at the same time, you still hope that he will get the tax reform through, which can provide stimulus for business.

>> tucker: i guess what bothered me about it -- i think probably your macro view on this is probably right, not on trump but on trade, prosperity, et cetera. your analysis seemed to ignore the nature of the distribution of the wealth. one of the reasons trump was elected is because a small group of people got really rich during the obama years to come up with a middle-class language. you are seeing the same phenomenon across western europe. as of something that politicians need to address otherwise you will get political chaos? is something you need to factor in? >> that's absolutely right. inequality is a massive faith in institutions has come along side a big increase in inequality. back in 1982 in the u.s., it's the same in the u.s. the average ceo executive pay was 30 times more than your average worker. it's now about 135 times your average worker. that is a major, major problem. trump's policies are only going to make inequality a lot worse.

it's pretty peculiar to see him giving tax giveaways for people who are handling over five and a half million dollars in their estates. >> tucker: wait a second. now, you will have rewriting history. i would agree with you that policy is inconsistent with what he ran on. but when you guys made your prediction, he wasn't saying anything like that. he wasn't saying that i will staff my white house with goldman sachs guys. he was making a pretty straight populist economic argument. and that was repugnant to you and to policymakers and elites across the globe. my question is, have you looked inside? maybe we should have paid more attention to the suffering of the metaclass then and this wouldn't have happened? >> obviously, -- we just want what is best for everyone. if you have populist policies, the reason they are called populist typically is because they sound really great but in reality they don't work at all. the reason why we are committed to free trade is because it makes good it's cheaper for everyone. the people who generally buy

imported goods are those on the lower income. if you therefore put up trade barriers, push up the cost for these imported goods and those who suffer the most are those who can least afford it. we actually have that in mind when we are opposing -- >> tucker: i have heard this argument for decades, and the argument that the middle class needs more brightly colored garbage from china -- he is as big a threat to the world as isis. you said that in your prediction. >> that's not entirely true. >> tucker: that it is why i am bringing it up. >> back to the global economy. we thought he was the biggest threat to the global economy from a terrorist attack. an extraordinarily gloomy reality that terrorist attacks are a fact of life. even if you look at the brussels attacks from the stock market went up. it is a peculiar country trend. but when you look at who was going to be the most powerful

man in the world, such a unique candidate, and he still is a unique president. then, you have to take that into account in terms of the global macro economic forecast. >> tucker: there is an internal contradiction. you guys are for markets, obviously. you believe it marketed to principals, markets are wise over the long run. but markets responded positively to the election of the guy you said would destroy the global economy. so, who is right? you are the markets? why would they do that? >> we are such beautiful fools. the dollar strengthened. but there was a certain amount -- remember, rational exuberance? we'll see how long it lasts. yesterday was a good example of a huge stock market fall for something that we had forecast. the trump presidency getting quite a lot of political chaos. that is something we are seeing snowballing over time. the stock market has absolutely outperformed. what we are a little curious as to how sustainable this is. a lot of it depends on getting through the agenda. he has not made any meaningful

outreach to the democrats, even though he is aware he needs to do it. >> tucker: i'm losing track of whether markets are rational or not. are they rational or not? >> they are rational -- they change every single day. >> tucker: [laughs] >> they move in line with the news, just as we all do. >> tucker: thanks a lot for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: president trump have already received more intelligence coverage then you can consume in your entire life. we are not daring you to try that. up next, we'll talk to a professor who says the whole story is a lie, a big lie. story is a lie, a big lie. he'll explain

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>> tucker: it took only a few decades of bad reporting with "the new york times" has finally admitted that the gender pay gap has nothing to do with sexism. you may have missed it but in a recent article, the reporter pointed out that what has actually been obvious for a long time, "the gender pay gap is largely because of motherhood."

of course, anyone who thought about it for a second already knew it. even in 2017, women are the ones who give birth to babies and they often take the lead in raising them for you doing that, though, takes focus away from a conventional career. so, many women quit or take flexible but lower paying jobs. there's nothing wrong with any of that. some people still believe that raising decent kids is more important than working at a law firm and is the right to think that. of course, it would have been nice for the times to show this kind of honesty during the eight years of president obama's terms when the bands to eliminate the sexism based pay gap were never ending. paper still seems to see women's lack of enthusiasm for global capitalism as a moral crisis, something that we need to fix immediately. the same article they had met the gap is simply caused by different choices, freely made. the article says "the long-term price theft government giving up economic productivity to have families and plots ways to reverse it, because nothing more and more hard and then adding to the sum total of globalism, even

your kids." that is the times position, anyway. it's time for the reality check. as has been noted, people will fall more easily for a big lie than a small one. victor davis hanson is a historian and a fellow at the hoover institution. he says that the entire russia story we have been talking about for months is just such a big lie created by the democratic party with the help of the media. victor davis hanson joins us tonight. professor, you are saying that this whole thing is just nonsense. is that what you are saying? >> i think you have to go to the origins and the causes and the methodology and the objectives. this whole thing started during the nomination process when the never trump people commissioned a dossier by retired british agent, the so-called christopher steele dossier that was pretty much ridiculous. then, it was passed on after trump got the nomination to the

clinton campaign. then, it was forgotten about. suddenly, when she did with nobody thought she would do and lost, and robbie moog's analytics and data didn't prove to be successful, and she didn't go to the blue wall states efficiently, then, the new narrative came. the russians must have done it by the wikileaks probe process and then the dossier that somehow got into the hands of the fbi director, whether he paid for it or not. i think senator grassley is investigating that. now, we have this idea that trump colluded and this dossier was leaked to media sources that it was pretty obscene, pretty outrageous. have things in it that could not have been true. where are we now? we have a director of national intelligence, james clapper, said it didn't exist. we have senators feinstein and grassley say that fbi director comey said there was not an ongoing investigation. it was very unlikely because donald trump, he didn't dismantle eastern european

missile defense. he didn't go to geneva and press a plastic red button. he didn't make fun of romney for saying russia was an existential enemy. he didn't have a hot mic exchange with a russian president saying that he would be more flexible with the russians after the election. that entire reset, appeasement of russia, came from the clinton-obama team, not from donald trump. now, it was very unlikely anyway because he ran all is a jacksonian who was going to beef up u.s. defenseman's and get tough with the rivals abroad. it wouldn't be necessarily logical that putin would want him to be president. yet, here we are. i think the real message that we are missing is that there was evidence that some people in the obama administration had a surveilled people either trump himself, or around trump. that information had either been reversed targeted, deliberately, to find information from or incidental. it didn't matter because the names were unmasked and then, they were leaked to pet her

partners. for the last six months, between the dossier and the surveilling, we have the leaks. special investigator mueller looks at the totality of the so-called russian collusion-surveillance story, will come to conclusions that we don't expect. >> tucker: how ironic would it be, though, if in the course of the investigation, these investigations go in directions that you can't predict? no one can. people got in trouble, because that happens with these things. and at the same time, we discover that at its core, the story was just a lie. there was nothing there. there was no collusion between putin and trump. but it still ended up really hurting or bringing down this administration. is that possible? >> yeah, i think it is. we have had a whole cadre of washington and new york reporters who have done nothing other than for six months, using all of their tools at their disposable, their genie is, experience, to prove that donald trump colluded with the russians. they can't find anything.

they haven't spent commits or attempt to look at who was unmasking individuals. and that come out from the house intelligence committee. but what we are seeing, i don't want to be too dramatic, but historically, a slow-motion coup. you have the nexus of celebrities, academics, the democratic and progressive parties, then, you have the media, and they feel that they can delegitimize a president with 1,000 next, none of them significant in themselves. but they coalesced to build a narrative that trump is an experience, that he is uncouth, he is crude, he is reckless. each day, the point is to drive his popularity down one half a point, one point, until he can't function in congress because purple state congressional representatives don't want to take the risk to take initiatives. meanwhile, at the aca, the tax reform, his appointments, everybody agrees they have been excellent. there is trump, the message and

agenda, versus trump the demonized president. >> tucker: you got to wonder if the people who run the news organizations ever think to themselves, it's kind of where that my priorities alignment precisely with those of the democratic party? [laughs] may be that's corrupt? [laughs] >> i think the democratic wrapped is taking its cue from the media. when the media has a narrative, the use of profanity, the democratic party follows on course. they have been following the trump story because the media has been generated and at. >> tucker: professor, i love talking to people with great memories. and you have one in perspective. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: up next, sean hannity makes his return to the friend zone to talk about job. daddy's here. hi hey buddy hey dad i think we can do this. adam baily.

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>> tucker: we invited one of our friends from fox onto the show. joining us tonight, sean hannity, who knew how mike needs no introduction, except to say that he knew our former bos. how would you some of the guy as big as roger? >> there is only been three people in my life that i have met that have this deeper dimenn in terms of the thought process. you know, i would often sit with him, and a time i would have a meeting, i don't care if it was on the phone or in his office, i would always take a pattern a paper because they knew i was going to get four or five great ideas that would make me seem much smarter than i am. he saw things differently. he would be able to cut to the chase, get rid of all the clutter, and, lo, tucker, i wouldn't be on with you tonight. i was a young, local radio host in atlanta with very little tv experience. took a big risk, gave me a shot, here i am, and he believed in me. and he did that for so many

other people. as a set in my statement today, i think he would see things and people that they didn't know existed in themselves and i can tell you, for my own personal experience, that was the case. i never thought i could do this. one other thing that he dated, tucker, which i think is pretty amazing, i was so bad. all you need to do is google hannity's first show. it is humiliating. you want to bring me down to earth and need a i cringe when i see it. he stuck with me. he changed my life so much for the better and so many others. >> tucker: he did that with people. he did stick with them. what did he tell you when he first hired you? >> i couldn't remember one thing. that's a great question. i remember one meeting, he warned everyone, they will probably have technical collectors, something's going to happen. but just a call. i remember he told everybody, smile, have a good time, it doesn't have to be perfect on day one. this is long ball. we want to change the media

landscape in the country. he emphasized fair and balanced. he wanted both sides. then, he pointed to me and alan and said, except for you to, you can do whatever the hell you guys want. >> tucker: and you did! [laughs] he just let us do our thing. one other great thing, we always work on a ratings pressure world, he never once called me and said, great ratings. he never once called me and said, what is wrong with your ratings, either. he knew there was an ebb and flow to the new cycle, ups and downs. that has kept me very centered. basically, you build it and you are calm, every night you do a great show. that is why people are watching it. every night, you do a great show, you work hard for your audience, you are in their viewership every night. >> tucker: that is really wise. he saw the big picture. he was a tough guy, too. not easily pushed around. >> listen, i am a better fighter today because i learned from hi him. when i first started, maybe -- i

remember there would be certain people who were working at the fox news channel, they get their first negative article, i.e. seiko google my name, it will come of hannity is evil, hannity is satan. and then when you read it, you will feel so much better. so many people have done that and follow that advice. it used to bother me come i can't even remember when. i don't care, tucker. i don't care what people tweet, right, say. and i enjoy the competitive back in the forth in life. >> tucker: for our viewers were wondering if you are being sincere, i work with you, and i can say he is not joking. [laughs] >> when i am tweeting come of my twitter wars am smiling. everyone thinks, twitter fight, and i am like, let's get in there. i believe in fighting for what we believe in. now, we have to fight as irredeemable deplorables. that is a fight that i will engage in until my last breath because they are trying to undermine that election. >> tucker: sean hannity, ladies and gentlemen.

>> i don't ever want to be in the enemy's own. >> tucker: [laughs] you never will be. we'll be right back.

>> tucker: we've heard a lot about roger ailes on this channel today, he was a huge figure here into american life. if you like to hear more, i recommend looking up the remarkable attributes we've heard from brit hume and shepard smith. he captured so precisely, a lot of us got emotional watching them. i would add only one thing to what they said, he always rooted for the underdog. it's not common in our business with the success is the god most people worship. while others kissed up and kicked down, roger ailes always did the opposite. he was kinder to the cleaning crew than he was two presidential candidates, i saw that. he picked fights with someone his own size, if not bigger and he was always fearless. half my friends here washed out of somewhere else. roger saw something in them, took pity, and hire them. i know because it happened to me

beak and i will always be grateful for that, roger ailes, rest in peace. >> hello everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle, along with juan williams, jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's not a clock in new york city and this is "the five." today, roger ailes, passed away at the age of 77, will look back at his life, his career and to share some personal stories later this hour. but first, breaking news tonigh tonight. president trump is pete speaking on camera for the first time since adjustment department decision to appoint a special counsel to investigate possible coordination between his campaign and the russian government between the 2016 election. >> i respect the move in the entire thing has been a witch hunt, there is no collusion betweemylf