conflicting maximum carnage oute building. that was described to us by the witnesses who saw it happen. i will be back at 11:00 eastern. right now, "hannity" on fox news channel. >> welcome to "hannity." 19 are dead. around 50 injured during an ariana grande concert in manchester, england. police are treating this incident as an act of terrorism and they are expecting to hold a news conference this hour. authorities are advising people to avoid the area around the arena and the train station that is nearby is also closed. concertgoers describe hearing a loud explosion or explosions at the event ended, causing a massive panic and one eyewitness is saying he saw people lying on the ground covered in blood. new video appears to capture sound of this blast. listen.

[blast] >> sean: joining us now on the ground, daily mail reporter jake simon is with us. can you tell us the latest? >> the latest on the ground, 19 people have been confirmed dead. 50 have been confirmed injured. this is a very high death toll indeed. we haven't seen an attack this bad in the united kingdom since 2005. 12 years ago. 152 people were killed in a coordinated series of suicide bombings in london. things are calm here. there's a sense that things are more under control, it's almost an eerie feeling in the air. you know how much suffering is going on behind closed doors here. the royal infirmary, just a mile away from the scene here -- also in various hotels, --

>> sean: may i interrupt you? the press conference starting. let's go to that. >> in the center, this was at the conclusion of the ariana grande concert. currently, we have 19 people confirmed to have lost their lives in the explosion. around 50 casualties that are being treated at six hospitals across greater manchester. my thoughts are with the injured and those who lost their lives and the loved ones during this terrible time. we are doing all that we can to support them. officers from greater manchester police and emergency services are working at the scene and supporting those affected. we are coordinating operations at the headquarters. an emergency number is available for all those concerned about their loved ones, anyone who may have been in the area.

the number is... your currently treating this as a terrorist incident until we have further information. we are working closely with u.k. intelligence partners. this is clearly a very concerning time for everyone. we're doing all that we can with local and national agencies to support those affected. as we gather information about what has happened last night. as you'll understand, we are still receiving information and updates to provide further detail when you a clearer picture. i want to thank people for their support and ask them to remain vigilant. if they have any concerns at all, report them to the national antiterrorist hotline. the number is 0800-789-321.

it's important also for people here in manchester to avoid the area around manchester arena for emergency services so they can continue to effectively attend to the accident at the location. thank you very much. >> sean: it appears that ends the press conference. manchester, england. sky news covering it. as we've been talking about here, we are now following everything we have been. they gave out a number for people that are in great britai great britain. to call if they have any information they can share with the police there. joining is now at the very latest, our own trace gallagher. trace. >> it's fascinating, that news conference -- of what he didn't say, which was pretty much everything. we have confirmed a number of

facts and all he really did was confirm that it was 19 dead and 50 wounded. that number of course may change. what he did not talk about and what u.s. officials have already confirmed to a number of media outlets is that this was in fact a suicide bomber that hit this arena outside of the arena of the ariana grande concert. we knew at the hospital reports started coming in, they someone to people coming in with shrapnel wounds. specifically male wounds. we figured it was some type of nail bomb device. u.s. officials through u.k. officials have confirmed that this was a suicide bomber. what you played at the top of the show is fascinating because that was the explosion that was heard on the dash cam video. when nobody understood was how he was inside his car, the dashcam facing it and yet you could still hear the explosion very loud. we thought it initially was inside the building.

we had witnesses coming out. some of them were injured. they all felt like they heard something. nobody saw anything. there was no smoke seen inside the arena. and then the reports started coming in that the explosion was inside the foyer area, just outside in the hallway. as people were exiting. if you had eyewitness is saying that inside that foyer area, they smelled smoke. a gassy smell. then you have the arena officials coming out and saying that this was in fact outside the arena altogether, and the box office area that's between victoria station and manchester arena. for those who don't know the area, it's one building. it goes up into the arena. 21,000 people, one of the biggest arenas in the u.k. ariana grande among young people -- she is extraordinary popular. this was packed, according to all accounts. with anywhere from 6-year-olds

to 20-year-olds. mostly female. if you look online and all social media, you see these heartrending pictures of missing children. parents and families already posting their pictures of missing children. as young as 6-year-old sold. we won't show them because it's on confirm that they are missing or if they are being held in some safe area. there are numbers of hotels that have taken in children that do not have parents waiting to pick them up at the time. there's a good possibility that some of them are in those hotels. we should also point out that not only did the constable not talk about where the location of the attack was, there's no breakdown on who was killed or who was injured. no age is given at all. we just know that one man who was probably the clearest eyewitness said that he was

picking up his family and he looked down the hallway and he saw a number of bodies lying there. that is when the numbers started coming out. 19 dead. 50 wounded. again, sean, that might change. this is being looked at as terrorism right now. it certainly has all the hallmarks. though there has been no call for responsibility as of yet. >> sean: trace gallagher joining us tonight. the u.k. police are treating this event as a terrorist attac attack. a specific attack in this case that would be targeting children and young teenagers. joining us now, catherine herridge, who has been in contact and has a report for us. >> thank you, sean. government officials confirmed that john kelly is monitoring the situation and has been briefed. we should expect a statement from the department in the very near future. government officials said they

are working to assess what happened in manchester and they noted the following. if it is confirmed as terrorism, it is a level of sophistication beyond the recent u.k.-based plots that have involved knives and vehicles as weapons. they also pointed to the reports of shrapnel is deeply concerning because this is another indicator of premeditation. a plot that may have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization. reports of the explosion at an exit -- that's another indicator suggesting premeditation. it amplifies the concussive effect of the explosion. and also maximizing casualties. i asked them if there been anything in the recent chatter. through social media and in chat rooms amongst those who are sympathetic or followers of various terrorist groups. they said it has been very

steady among the islamic terror cells. the call has been to hit so-called soft targets. talking about confirmation of a suicide bombing in this case but based on the open source media reports, it does suggest that's a a strong possibility, sean. >> sean: joining us now, senior correspondent geraldo rivera. jay sekulow. manny gomez. this is the first -- we know that children have been targeted. we know that children have been used by suicide bombers. no children have been indoctrinated. but a specific attack as police in great britain -- targeting children and young teenagers, geraldo. >> first thing, when i heard this news, the first thing i did was to text my daughter who was

in the stadium in paris. november 2015. the feeling that a parent has when they don't know the fate of their child's in one of the public venues is indescribable. it's something i will never forget. i pity the parents now, those that don't know -- ariana grande, the former disney star, her fans are teens, most of them little girls. this takes a particular perversion, a real sickness that hatred is so vicious. i understand from the sky reported that they haven't had a major mass murder on the terror scale but it was only in march, mowing down people in london. killing five or six.

ten people in the pot. many of them for manchester. from this northern english town. it's horrifying. i saw a couple of tweets, reporting to be ices, claiming credit. it has all the hallmarks. particularly with the talk of a nail bomb designed to inflict maximum casualties. >> sean: i had prepared a show tonight before this act of terror, they are believing it is in great britain, police are investigating it as shots. a tale of two presidents. barack obama's apology tour and specifically -- donald trump framed this fight against ices. i will give you a couple of quotes here. a battle between good and evil. a better future is only possible if your nation drives out

terrorist and extremist, he said. he said drive them out, drive them out of your places of worship, your communities. your holy land. drive them out of this earth. then he said deny all territory to the foot soldiers of evil. he went on to say it is a choice between two features and a choice that america cannot make for you. our friends will never question our support and our enemies should never doubt our determined nation. if he understands the nature of this conflict and this is the conflict i believe -- if the police are right is on display here... >> that's absolutely correct. sean, it was four years ago today that that british soldier was hacked to death by two islamic terrorists in southeast london. four years ago today. could it be a chance?

yes. most likely it's not. these are planned. as geraldo said, the utilization of the device -- reminiscent of what has taken place in israel, suicide bombers with the nails being shrapnel -- it's done unbelievable damage. this is a serious, serious situation. i'll take it a step further. in the communities, and the places of worship, if someone's showing signs of radical islamic station -- they are supposed to let authorities know. talk with homeland security. the fbi. the same thing is, yet the drive them out. the targets were young girls at a concert. these barbaric terrorists are

convinced to doing one thing. one thing only. the destruction of western civilization as we know it. >> sean: this is it. let me actually play the trump speech from this weekend. drive them out, it was beyond powerful. especially in light of what police are treating as an incident of terror tonight. >> is a choice between two futures. and it's a choice america cannot make for you. a better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and drive out the extremists. drive them out. try them out. of your places of worship. drive them out of your communities. of your holy land. and drive them out of the earth. >> sean: manny, considering

the location of where he said that, compared to 2009 at barack obama's -- by far, i know the liberal destroy-trump-media tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists are not covering it to the extent -- networks didn't even cover that speech. but he gets it. he is the moral clarity to understand the nature of this conflict. >> absolutely. he didn't sugarcoat it. he said that at a venue. he said in saudi arabia. appropriate. courageous. given the actions that have happened in the world, we have had a tax go on unchecked. with out our four leadership say much about it. now we have a leader that has come out in their territory and told their leaders, check

themselves. >> sean: nigel faraj, one of the leaders of the brexit movement and a personal friend of mine -- i know they are treating it as an act of terrorism. as me and geraldo mentioned, targeting young children, young teenagers. first, nigel, is a dear friend -- my thoughts, my prayers. all of our prayers go out to you and our friends in great britain, england, manchester. your thoughts on what's going on there? >> horrified. i think it marks a new low in terrorism. to willfully set out to kill and injure young girls... i think it's something... this news didn't really break until after midnight our time. i think the country's going to wake up and be very, very shocked indeed. the fact that it happened outside london will also surprise people. terrorist attacks, the bombings of the underground or lee rigby

who was killed four years ago, there will be surprised it took place outside of london and our second city of manchester. also that it took place in public space. that's going to worry people even more. what do you do? you can check bags, going into a venue. you can scan people but clearly the way the suicide bomber planned this was to be in a place where he simply couldn't be detected. i have to say, we are 16 days away from a general election. in which open-door immigration and in which dealing with terrorism has to date not even been discussed. >> sean: nigel, you and i had many discussions. i know you supported trump as a candidate. i know he is taken great fire and heat for wanting to protect america's borders. and of course, the vetting --

directly contradicting our constitutional values. i called it a clash of cultures. if you grow up under sharia law, where men oppress women and people and and christians and, or if you want to assimilate into our societies, the islamization of people in europe wrong path that you believe your country is headed down. >> one of the reasons brexit -- i made it very clear to the british people, when angela merkel invited people into germany -- totally unchecked, ultimately, those people would be able to come to britain because they get european passports. it was one of the contributing factors to brexit. i think the problem is even worse in france and in belgium. one of the reasons that i wanted

to support donald trump and i still very much to support donald trump and by the way, i thought that speech that he gave in saudi arabia was tremendous. he looked like an global statesman giving that speech. >> sean: i felt for many years that prime minister netanyahu was the lone voice of moral clarity on the world stage. i even said during the obama years he was the only adult on the world stage. now it's clear that the prime minister now has a partner. to target -- if you don't believe evil, and recognizing that truth, confronting the way he did is so important. i believe for the safety and security of good and free people around the world, you are right -- by allowing the islamization of europe and not checking people's backgrounds, they also get into the entire

european continent. >> yes, with brexit we've given ourselves a chance to do with it but we haven't focused so far in this election campaign. we will have a proper conversation about it. my feeling is that you in america have a real opportunity not to make the same mistakes that so many countries in europe have made. i think you have a leader. yes, moral courage. whatever people say about donald trump, whatever way you might upset -- whatever fights, when it comes to the big stuff, trump has got absolutely right. >> sean: our thoughts and prayers go out to you and the people of great britain. you've been a very good friend to the united states. i'm sure we will want to support you in any way we can. let me go back to geraldo. and so many ways, you and i have had it relatively minor conflict in regards to immigration. you now support a wall and a lot

of these measures. you've got to admit the conflict -- if you grew up under sharia law and you are a man and you can oppress women, you put gays and lesbians to death. it's a clash of culture that is so wide and deep. we have to admit a truth here. >> i totally agree with the major thrust of your -- i think the majority of people in the majority of states -- >> sean: i've influenced you over the years. no, i am kidding. >> what he has accomplished on the southern border is close to a wall. the isis trained fighters have left the united kingdom to get trained in syria and iraq to fight there. come back with those deadly skills, bring them back to the u.k. many of them -- that's what

makes it so and difficult, many of them leave the country and return because they are nativeborn, many of them christian born. they leave the u.k., they thinky they are teaching english in afghanistan. they bring back these deadly skills, the fatal mowing down of the folks in march near west minister, where the british parliament was. nativeborn, christian born, converted to radical islam. the attack in most mosul, iraq. just recently. what you have to watch, i think the key is -- kids that were historically in gangs are becoming radical islamists. and they are using the jihad as

a context for their violence and acting out. this was a vicious, low down and dirty act. >> sean: police are currently treating this as an act of terrorism. we don't have fully and completely knowledge of all the facts yet. there is been so many and almost always -- it's a perfect time -- in light of the president's speech, to assess all this. as free people around the world, to go exactly to the heart of what the president challenged the muslim world to do on their own. to throw them out. to drive them out of their places of worship, their countries, it's got to be treated as a cancer. in human society. we are indoctrinating these kids, palestinian kids, when

they are three. they are taught to hate jews and christians and americans americans. >> what the president laid out -- president obama would not do it but i don't want to politicize this but when you have eight years of the vacuum that was created, no wonder these cell groups metastasize. does anyone want to argue tonight that we should have an executive order restricting who is coming into country, so we know who these people are? does anyone want to argue that tonight? i would like to take on that argument. the point you made. this is a significant enough issue globally. it's not just in the united states or europe. it's everywhere. when the president says your places of worship coming up to go into the mosque and rooted out. into the communities. those towns. report to the authorities if you see something. it will have also include the

muslim community willing to do this. what's happened in europe, a failed experiment. they allowed a muslim population and sharia law to become part of the culture. it's another thing to allow them to hurt people in your country. you have an islamization of europe that is significant. obviously we are seeing it in the u.k. in france, and germany. let's not think we are not immune to it here in the united states. we are not immune to it. i said this when i wrote that book four years ago, this was the plan all along. to infiltrate and -- they pickn young girls. that's who was the target of this concert. young girls. it >> sean: nobody seems to

understand what the caliphate is. the caliphate is a worldwide expansion. you either except their way or they will kill you. that's what it says. that's what the ideology is. look, hang on, jay. let me bring in the editor in chief of breitbart london. all throughout human history, i wrote a book in 2004 -- the book was deliver us from evil. i did a study. a research on stalin and the gulags and russia. nazism and fascism and the killing fields in cambodia. 100 million human souls killed by evil in the last century. this is evil in our time. the two world leaders that are speaking out the loudest -- he was alone for a long time, benjamin annette and benjamin netanyahu and our

president, who has the same moral clarity as he does. >> there antitrust people out there in the media and in the comedy sphere that are making light of this attack in my home country. here's the thing, we have to look at the indicators of this attack. we know the islamic state has recommended to its soldiers around the world to use nail bombs, molotov cocktails, populations around places like manchester and may suggest, we start looking up and down places like the united kingdom. i went on a tour of these in infamous no-go zones. they are claiming that those are muslim areas now. they are not shy about it. what does the koran say? driving the infidels, driving the number early nonbelievers e

not regard. but we don't quite know yet -- we can come to some serious conclusions here. >> sean: when i studied the quran and some of these controversial statements within it, i am told that my interpretation is wrong, even though when you take the exact verbiage out of there, i am willing to listen -- i've always felt there have been those that have spoken out against evil in their religion. with all due respect to the saudis, they've played both sides of the fence. they have treated women, they've killed gays and lesbians for no reason. they have persecuted christians and jews. they are bigoted and they do not allow the free practice of religion, freedom of speech, equal rights to women and what they do to gays and lesbians is

evil in our time. they throw them off roofs and they hang them. i want to take on their radical elements but they also need to modernize and we have the man that from them as well. we have to demand that from them as well. >> barack obama, his first speech, you only have to look to that, he quoted the koran three times, totally out of context. using different translations in order to try and bend over before the arab and muslim worl world. where radical islam could spread very easily. where it was excusable around the world very easily. donald trump says drive them ou out. european leaders, the british prime minister -- needs to be looking at how we drive the people out of our country.

full stop. >> sean: all the victims and their families, our deepest sympathies. thoughts and prayers. thank you for being with us. joining us now, shepard smith. he will be picking up the coverage at 11:00 eastern tonight. as we go off the air. with the very latest, shep? >> it's not surprising, they have been on scene. within about three hours after the attack, various reports we get indicate that it's very clear that forensic experts -- american officials quoting their british counterparts, it's very clear that to them it was a suicide bomber. the wounds on the victims as reported from hospitals are shrapnel like wounds which would indicate high temperature caused nails or whatever was in this bomb to create what looks like shrapnel wounds on the victims. the authorities that arrived there were able to discern in

their estimations, many reports here in the united states indicated that this may have been a suicide bomber. of course, nobody has claimed responsibility. there is no outright confirmation of terrorism. >> sean: what you are describing sounds a lot like the boston marathon bombers. with the pressure cooker that maximized the flow of the explosion and the expansion of the shrapnel they had put nap o on. >> what we can be sure of, sean, whoever did this -- if it turns out to be a suicide bomber, had that person gotten into the arena and gotten in the middle of a bunch of people, concentrated people, it could have been -- it's afraid freeze i don't like to use. it could have been so much worse. especially when you're talking about 19 people killed, 50 injured going. we don't know why. was it possible security

services stop them? i spoke with two people on air tonight. one woman said i had to throw out a bottle of water. it sounds like security was strong enough that maybe security kept whoever this was outside. this person waited for people to come out. i spoke with person after person, a parent waiting for the kids to come out there. it was parents who saw the explosion and ran ineir kids. with all these people injured and maimed around them. so thankful that any of them -- it didn't happen inside. the only good thing is that this person wasn't inside. a tightly packed concert, many of the age, your own children. a horrifying thing does think about. >> sean: these numbers are horrible, this is awful and evil. inside, this could have been ten times what we see here. again, the nature of evil and the threat in our time is monumental. and must be dealt with.

shep will continue his coverage tonight. shepard smith, thank you for joining us. geraldo, you wanted to weigh in? >> the explosion happened outside. two things. remember the three suicide bombers at the stadium in paris? the france versus holland soccer game, they did not get inside either. the president of france was inside. along with my daughter and her friends of course. many were injured as they stampeded out after the fact. the three suicide bombers were thwarted. what this can say, terms -- if they are now targeting unprotected, open public spaces -- this really is the next frontier in the war -- in the -- >> sean: i don't want to interrupt your flow but we have seen this all throughout israel. pizza parlors. malls. what's the next layer?

it's going to be the mall of america. we will wake up one day, simultaneous air missiles taking out commercial airliners. we are not ready, geraldo. >> look at the nut job in times square. i don't know what motivated him. schizophrenia or post traumatic stress. it could have easily been and id islamic terrorist. they want to shut down the way we live. they want to punish our civilians for what's happening in their countries. even after we wipe out isis -- >> sean: they want to convert you. they want you to convert or die. >> that's definitely one of their fantastical notions. >> sean: you lost some friends on 9/11. i did. manny, you did too. i think geraldo is right. i interviewed prime minister not yahoo before this most recent interview. the last words he said in the

interview were a preview of coming attractions for you, america. israel was the little satan but we are viewed as the great sata satan. obviously europe is in the mix as well. >> absolutely. we are helping the little satan protect their interests as well as our interests in the area. by the same token, we've just given a weapon to saudi arabia, over $100 million. we need to hold them accountable to put their people under notice that their government -- >> sean: we have sky news, they've just aired new video of this explosion at tonight's concert in manchester. listen to this. >> oh, my god. >> sean: wow. i was extremely loud. joining is now with reaction to that.

your reaction to our discussion and news out of manchester tonight? >> sean, the mesh is it's very important to analyze. the individual or the team, the unit -- the perpetrator has done horrible acts. if they really acting as a group -- they are killing, masculine children. this tells me the ideology behind it and the movement behind it -- this has been organized and inspired by others now after -- there is a rise of a warlike collection. they're going to continue to struggle notches in the middle east but in europe and united states. >> sean: you and i have discussed at length, they are treating this as an incident as

an act of terrorism. many experts i've been talking to believe that the fingerprints of the type of attacks we have seen are very similar to what we saw in ancestry tonight. terrorist do not worship god, they worship death. your life will be empty, brief, your soul will be fully condemned. i don't know anyone who is as truthful and honest and outspoken about this than the president bravely speaking out in saudi arabia. >> he needed to deliver that speech. the last two presidents needed to deliver that speech since 9/11. certainly not in the last eight years. by addressing them with this clarity, he is now mobilizing them and also pushing them to be responsible. the next day, they said they will have an army of 34,000. these are the trips we need in syria, iraq, yemen and libya. beyond that what is important is

that for them, to wage an ideological war. they need to do more, the networks we are facing is not just in the middle east. it's embedded in the west. >> sean: jay sekulow, helping you and if i may. we go back to those statements. those are pretty strong, powerful statements. probably the only person i know -- the prime minister of israel. >> it's very much the same kind of approach. if the college exactly what it is. understand we did this in front of. 50 leaders from muslim countrie countries. this was historic not just from perception but from reality. what the president did was issue a call. we cannot tolerate this and you, you have to engage this.

at the most serious of levels. in your community, your worship centers. that's what this has to go. that her horrific nature should be sending a message to the rest of the world. we had this in the united states. they're looking for those soft targets. member the airport incident in fort lauderdale? it was in the baggage claim area. the person got the weapon and came back in. we have to work it, can recognize there's no such thing as a safe zone. we have to govern ourselves accordingly. our intelligence gathering has to be utilized at the most sophisticated level. you have to route this out at the core. there is no time. time is of the absence here. we can't waste an hour. >> sean: one of the things world will have to come to grips with is a very simple thing. i thought i saw this on saturday. no apologies, no political correctness. no happy talk.

no pollyanna fantasy here. draw a line. there is good and there is evil. there's 100 million human souls, communism, fascism, nazism, imperial japan, the killing fields in cambodia, you put it altogether. 100 million human beings slaughtered. if we treat this with we've got to be kind and we can't offend people, people are going to die because we are weak. we've gotten sky news -- a longer version of the video, showing the explosion from inside the manchester arena. just breaking. let's play that. >> oh, my god. what the [bleep]? >> what's going on?

>> oh, my god. >> sean: wow. that sounds exactly like an explosion that is strong, deep, powerful, and as we pointed out -- if that had happened at a different location, i shudder to think the damage, the murder, the death, the destruction. >> the one caution, these casualty figures we are getting now, it's always worse. >> sean: nbc has 20 dead. we have 19 here at the fox foxs channel. 59 injured on fox sky news. >> there were children, generally speaking -- little girls, teenagers and younger at the concert. the casualties, picture the hospital in your mind. when you picture these horrific events. you think of you adults being victimized.

the most vulnerable part of your population being torn to shreds. this is not a bullet. nails, multiple pieces of shrapnel tear at each little body. it is absolutely horrifying when you think of it. >> sean: the shrapnel you're talking about, i just recently watched a post tsarnaev boston bombing video. just the injured. since that time, i know we are in the news business. at the deadly aftermath that these people live with day in and day out -- the president, for the security studies group, you had some pretty controversial remarks you want to address? >> i don't know what's controversial about noting the way the media -- >> sean: i stand corrected and apologize. >> no worries, sean.

the problem we have right now -- we live and an open society. we cannot secure ourselves. we cannot hide. we need to recognize that the islamists are attacking. we need to do something about it. the only way to stop them is to look at the ideology, look at where they live, where they worship, and where they are being told to commit these kind of acts and conduct a surveillance necessary to catch them before they do it. not pick up the pieces afterwards. >> sean: well said. proactivity is the name of the game. we have been reactive in the prior administration. this administration is a lot more proactive. we have general kelly as department of homeland security secretary, we are posturing ourselves to be strong internally without security operations. this is scarier then the boston

bombing because this is somebody that took their lives to kill others. >> sean: we haven't heard from niall yet? >> an active sheer barbarism. this is savagery. we have to acknowledge directly what we are up against. an enemy of complete and utter brutality. the nature of the islamist threat. innocent children, women. you seen again and and again, s can't become the new normal for europe. we have to win this battle.

likely defeated the nazis. we have to win this war. >> sean: what i will take out of donald trump's speech, he went right to the heart of it. dealing with it head on. in a way we haven't done before. our own catherine herridge is now saying they are working to assess what happened in manchester. based on preliminary media reports, they are now noting in great britain -- is confirmed as terrorism. again, the police are currently treating the incident as an act of terrorism. if confirmed, the level of sophistication become wow beyond recent u.k. plots. these pieces of shrapnel we've been talking about or concerning and point to a premeditation and a plot that may have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization. and an explosion at the exit shows the potential. there could have been much more

carnage. a closed space amplifies the effect of the explosion. the disfiguring impact. maximizing casualties. maximizing injuries. the degree of sophistication and level of evil we have been talking at length about. jay, you wanted to weigh in at length? >> what i'm concerned about here -- the act itself and where it was done. the fact that in a free society, how do you prevent a guy, a terrorist, from doing that? i want to go a step further. you've got to go further into these communities and rat this out. it will surveillance. i know the left will be screaming civil liberties. there's nothing inconsistent about going in and finding out who these people are. you know what happens after these every single time? it will do a round up of 20 people and find out who is the one that made this bomb. that happened on every one of these events. the terrorist attacks, the ten

or 12 people that were involved in some capacity. why are we not finding down the front end? we are still in the west not really ready to recognize that this threat is at our front door. and it is. you want to call at extreme measures, call it whatever you want. at the end of the day, if we don't take this threat for what it is -- unfortunately would happen to a bunch of people, at least 19 or 20 or more in manchester -- by the way, you've got to understand the scope and nature of that device. in an outdoor area, they were able to kill or wound 80-90 people. one device? it's a new level of sophistication. let's round them up before, not after. >> another point though, i think it's complicated enough that it rather than talking about politics, we have to address the fact -- it's a fact -- 400 isis trained fighters have returned

to the united kingdom. i don't know how many have returned to the united states of america. the people that have returned from isis training to come back with these savage skills, they told their family they were allegedly teaching in afghanistan, doing some other benign task and some other foreign country. those families had to know. if you have your own 22-year-old or 25-year-old and he tells you he's teaching in afghanistan, do you want to see a postcard from afghanistan? were you really in afghanistan? does the mom know you were in afghanistan teaching or were you really in syria or iraq, learning from isis about how to commit mayhem and mass murder using easily obtainable chemicals from a hardware store, males from a hardware store and so forth? i think these communities really have a burden here. the burden of telling people that something doesn't smell

right. >> sean: go back. i forget which case it was. san bernardino. they were neighbors that saw the late activity at night and the grass and they were afraid. why were they afraid? they didn't want to be blamed for racial profiling or muslim profiling. it was odd and strange and weird and out of political correctness and a pressure that comes from a liberal media to speak up. >> orlando was an example. they knew that was an dysfunctional family. the father was an erratic character. how did the suspicion not extend farther enough that even his wife purports not to know what the orlando mass murderer was up to? >> how about fort lauderdale? in that situation, you have the

father of the terrorist come to the fbi and say i think my son has been radicalized. the tsarnaev brothers were interviewed and reviewed by the fbi. there's a fundamental problem if that's happening. these guys are let out and then they do the act. something's not right within the intelligence structure itself. i am hopeful the new administration and leadership will fix this. >> you can't be distracted by the politics. >> you have toics out of it. >> sean: 80% -- used on the harvard study, 93% of cnn, who colluded with hillary's coverage, it's negative to donald trump. or nbc -- obsessed with the conspiracy theory. i will get into this tomorrow. in spite of zero evidence, month after month after month -- go >> i will be back on it tomorrow morning, sean.

general kelly and donald trump's associates in russia. that will be there news in the morning. >> sean: collaborators, a political art of war, advancing left conspiracy theories. i will be addressing both of them as soon as possible on this show. joining us now on the phone, brigitte gabriel. she's been on the phone many, many times. herself growing up under very difficult circumstances in strict sharia and warning people as often as you possibly can the dangers of a clash of cultures. >> exactly, sean. i remember my own 9/11 happening to me when i was ten years old. the islamists blew up my home. bearing me under the rubble. i can smell the smoke. when i hear people talking about it, the smell they are smelling. what's so sad about this attack and what is so concerning is

that they were prepared for them in london. the british authorities were thinking we have to be careful in london. we have to be prepared. they were not prepared in manchester. what shows you that the terrence have become so sophisticated that they chose a location where the police are going to be monitoring. young girls, as young as 6-7 years old, as old as 20, they were able to do such an attack without any care about girls. what is shocking as i heard some of the british authorities saying we were shocked that they would do this. i don't know why they would do this. it's like, why do we even ask after 9/11 -- we still ask when we see isis people training children to behead people? kidnapping young girls, this is not a surprise. >> sean: it's not a surprise at all.

you've been through this over the many years. one of the great evils of radical islam and sharia law is the treatment of women. and the abuse of women. we mentioned earlier, gays and lesbians killed. the lack of tolerance for freedom of religion, the persecution of christians and jews. there's a big story we have covered on this program -- there's a modern day genocide against christians and a purging of christians. you see in iraq and around the world, purging that very few people have time to cover. like cnn or nbc. so busy advancing a theory about collusion. >> look in america. we are now seeing a rise of fgm. female genital mutilation.

this is happening here in america. in just a couple weeks, we will have the remembrance of the attack on the orlando nightclub. young americans are having a good time on a weekend. this is something that the american public needs to pay attention to. we are fortunate that we are way ahead of europe. at least we have learned from what's happened in europe. we are mobilizing here in america. i want to bring to the attention of our listeners that nationwide on june 10th, a march against sharia law and a march for human rights -- to bring attention to the treatment of women under sharia law and young girls. we want to protect women, the treatment of gays and lesbians, we now have 24 cities scheduled in 20 states, this is an issue e american public watching the news tonight needs to be aware of. and it needs to be involved in stopping.

we need to stop this from coming to enter our country. >> i got a tweet from somebody in the u.k. i suggested and brought up the fact that several of the terrorist arrested in mowing down the pedestrian outside west minister in march were from manchester. that's a hotbed of islamic radicals. i got a tweet... manchester muslims and taxi drivers, you don't know manchester. that's a tragedy of this. that's the tragedy of radical islamists terrorism. so many people in the munich coy who want to along. >> sean: ariana grande and her verified twitter account just tweeted moments ago... broken from the bottom of my heart. i am so sorry. i don't have words. obviously nobody holds her accountable.

these are young -- even preteenagers. my daughter likes ariana grande. her friends like her. that just adds a level of evil. what we've got to do, jay sekulow, we've got to look at what is going on in israel and the pure evil. what prime minister netanyahu said to me about america. >> that's exactly right. israelis that have dealt with this, 1948, we are a lot bigger territory and target in that sense. the prime minister is absolutely correct. i was thinking about what you just said, geraldo, with the muslim cabdrivers and doctors, i don't doubt that at all. but you have 10% of your community radicalized. that's a lot of people. >> even 1% is a lot of people.

>> sean: how many muslims worldwide? >> billions. >> the largest religion on earth. it's a religion -- i hate to put communal responsibility but no one knows the muslim community better than muslims. >> sean: isn't there a certain fear -- among those that are moderate and peaceful, under sharia law in countries -- if you are an apostate, the penalty for apostasy is him his death. >> looking, knowing that the president was planning this trip. i wonder if isis didn't order this attack to coincide with the president's visit to israel? of course, i'd didn't know the content of his speech but they knew the visit was going to take

place. >> the fourth anniversary of that police officer being hacked to death in london. that's what this is. >> sean: there is a friend of mine who works in the studio with us, how many years have you been here? about 20. his wife is from england. manchester. he says these towns are prepared for terrorism. we reported manchester police had done a terror attack training. maybe we should clarify that in fact, -- everyone is preparing for it. that's the whole thing. >> you have to get on the front end, sean. >> sean: identify it like trump did. >> from the community. inside the community. >> sean: thank you all. i want to remind you what the president said this weekend. a battle between -- i can't read without my glasses. a battle between good and evil. terrorist don't worship god, they worshiped death. then he said drive them out.

drive them out of your places of worship, communities, your holy land, out of this earth. that's a good way to end on this program. that's all the time we have left. stay tuned for our continuing coverage. our friend shepard smith is nex next. >> 11:00 p.m. in washington, for i am in manchester, england, . >> ariana grande concert in the manchester arena. video from inside the venue shows hundreds of fans fleeing after a huge bang. an explosion outside the arena triggered by suspected suicide bomber. 59 people were were also