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tv   Tucker Carlson Tonight  FOX News  May 22, 2017 11:00pm-12:01am PDT

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>> continuing coverage of the horrifying events at an arena in northern england. no one has claimed responsibility, it appears to have the hallmarks of terrorism and we have word of a press conference from local authorities in manchester, england, where it is currently 9:00 in the morning. welcome to fox news continued coverage of the horrific events in england. >> it has indeed been quite a morning, we will take you to that news conference as soon as it starts. meanwhile, here's what we know. an explosion, apparently the
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work of a suicide bomber went off and manchester arena where ariana grande finished performing. >> one loud noise, and then, for the first ten seconds we thought about it, and we walked with haste. and then a gentleman set "run!" >> 59 people have been injured. we continue to do all we can to support them. they are being treated at eight hospitals across greater manchester. we have significant resources deployed for the investigation.
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this will include armed officers as people would expect, more than 400 officers on this operation the night. to remind you, we were called at about ten: about about the explosion at manchester arena. emergency services responded very quickly to the scene. emergency numbers have been established. these numbers are 01618569900. we have been treating this as a terrorist incident. we believe at this stage, the attack last night was conducted by one man. at the priority is to establish
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whether he was acting alone or as part of a network. the attacker was outside the arena, we believe he was carrying an improvised explosive device. we would ask people not to speculate on the details or share names. this is confidential, wide-ranging investigation. our priority is to work with u.k. intelligence services to establish more details about the individual who carried out this attack. we have received tremendous support from across partner agencies throughout the night. we carry out exercises to test our ability to respond to incidents, and this was a very swift response from local and national agencies. i want to thank all members of
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those emergency services who have worked tirelessly throughout the night in very difficult circumstances. their response has been quite outstanding. there is a large cordon in place around manchester arena which will be in place for some time. the station will remain closed, a detailed forensics search is underway. terrorists will attempt to paralyze and create fear, they have a long history here in greater manchester of our community standing together during difficult times. in the coming days, we will be working very closely with community leaders to address any concerns or issues the community may have. it is important that we all continue to remain vigilant but that we go about our daily
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lives. we would ask members of the public to report any suspicious activity. the number of our terror hotline is 0800789321. as people are waking up to the tragic news, the greater manchester police and other emergency services and their partners will continue to help us get through the difficult days ahead. finally, i'd like to appeal to any members of the public that may have footage from last night that they believe can assist in our investigation. they can upload them to the u.k. police image appeal. i have time for a couple of questions. >> can you talk about the age of the victims and whether or not they have all been identified?
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>> at the stage i cannot give that detail, but i can confirm that there are children among the deceased. this is a very fast-moving investigation and we are saying it was an explosive device but i cannot give any further details. at this stage, i cannot give any further details. thank you very much. >> kelly: that was a night of music and fun and in seconds became a scene of deadly mayhem, we should talk about the fact that the police officer there was talking about how 59 people have been injured, it started at 10:33 p.m. some 240 calls for emergency services to respond to the scene, they are treating this as a terrorist incident by one man who died at the arena and they
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want to say they believe he was carrying an improvised explosive device which he detonated at the arena and they are trying to determine if he acted alone. the other thing he talked about is how terrorists will try to disrupt our lives. that goes back to what security expert louis perry was saying about an hour ago. everybody has to be involved, observe, report. he wanted to say these are children, they are trying to alert the people who are just waking up to this news there in manchester which is now at 7:00 in the morning. >> arthel: into the early morning in london, joining us live, i'm not sure if you are able to listen to that news conference or not. what can you tell us from your perspective?
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>> we are getting a lot more details from the police, that this was one attacker, he had an improvised explosive device, that's what we had heard from sources earlier, that they believed it was a suicide attacker. this person was carrying bag that contained the device. we are hearing from police that the death toll has risen to 22, earlier it was at 19. we are hearing that children are thought to be amongst those who died. this singer was very popular with young people and young fans and we have already seen on social media that parents have been looking for missing kids, trying to reunite families. this is one of the most tragic aspects of this, many young people appeared to have lost their lives as well. >> arthel: very tragic, we will get back to you throughout the morning as we continue the
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coverage here. i would like to bring in steve rogers, steve rogers has been with us throughout the night. steve, the question to you now that you know that authorities are saying that they believe this is the work of one man who died at the scene and they are in fact treating this as a terrorist incident, what happens now with that information? >> when he says one man who died at the scene, there was one man at the scene who probably transported himself there and there were no accomplices at that scene. it goes back to the question as to who this individual is and what associates he may have that were involved in this. someone had to build that bomb. if this is indeed a isis attack, there is a bomb maker somewhere. they usually send low-level operatives into these venues to kill themselves. he's right, there was one man on the scene who detonated that bomb, but i am convinced that
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someone else was involved, at least outside the perimeter. >> arthel: if this person somehow had been traced by authorities, that he had been on their watch list, are there forensics from his body that they could collect to find out who he is and work back from there? >> that's absolutely right, that's why the crime scene is very important. there is going to be fragments from the bomb, but more importantly there are going to be fragments from his body, pieces of flesh. they will have the ability to do some dna testing. if he was on their radar, they will identify him rather quickl quickly. >> arthel: judy miller is here as well, you have been covering the story throughout the evening and you have been raising this as a problem with immigration. >> it could be, the answer to that question depends on whether or not this is a lone wolf
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attack, the kind of attack that we've been seeing more and more of that is inspired by rather than directed by isis, we won't know that until we know whether or not he had accomplices in this task. the population of manchester is disproportionately high in terms of the muslim population, it's roughly one and 24 all of britain, but in manchester it is 9%-15%. this community is usually cordial with the law enforcement authorities, but as a very mixed reaction to the population, for example the mayor of london is a muslim and very proud of it and
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speaks openly about these issue issues. many of the people who are the 800 who went to syria or iraq to fight, half of whom are believed to have returned to britain, they would be the focus of law enforcement inquiry rather than the muslim population at large. it's very important to keep that in mind, what the british law enforcement and intelligence will concentrate on now are those who have the direct contact with an experience fighting. >> arthel: i'm glad you pointed that out, we don't know who this is and we are not going to condemn anyone. i know you are not implying that all muslims are bad people. >> quite the opposite. >> arthel: i want to make sure that that is very clear. thoughts from you as you watch that press conference and you heard those words from the local
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authorities there, saying that they believe it is the work of one man. you don't seem to be convinced. >> i am not, it's the work of one man on the scene, but judy brings up a good point. when you have a population of muslims that were overseas fighting with isis and then they come back, what are the chances that this individual acted alon alone? i'm still not convinced, i believe it's too early in the investigation to draw that conclusion. i hope he is right, but my experiences telling me that there may be more people involved in this. >> i think we will know much more about that once we know the composition of the bomb. the sophistication of the device will tell us a lot about whether or not one man acted alone. >> arthel: also the location, where he detonated the bomb, where he blew himself up unfortunately killing many people along with him. he didn't go inside the arena,
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he was outside the arena near the train station, the station near the arena. he didn't have to go through the metal detectors. >> what's important, that's an important point, those videos surrounding that entire area are going to tell a lot. i'm kind of curious, i'm sure they are going to look at every single vehicle in that parking lot and there are probably a few thousand there. that video footage is going to reveal a lot. >> arthel: we are going to ask judy miller and steve rogers to standby. no one has as of yet claimed responsibility for the bombing that thus far has claimed 19 lives. injuries, many more, happening at the manchester arena monday night. the latest count we have, 59 injuries, many of them children. we continue this coverage as we are joined now by mike baker. >> he is a former covert cia
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operations officer. thank you for joining us overnight and staying up so late to talk to us. you've seen so many operations in the field, tell me what this looks like or what it smells like and unfortunately to those who have lost their loved ones, what it hurts like. >> i think when the manchester police spokesperson talked just now in the press conference, when he refers to one person, he's not drawing any conclusions, he is simply saying that they had one explosion, one individual. he is not drawing any conclusions. frankly, you look at the location of the attack, you can draw some conclusions from that. whether it's one person or whether it's associates providing support, they go
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through a certain process, that never changes. they have to identify a site, they do a target assessment of a variety of sites and look at this one and think you've gotten arena, large groups of people at a specific event where you know you will have large groups of people, you've a soft site, the train station right next to it, right up against the arena, it's before the security perimeter for the arena, the train station also provides you. the reason that's important is because the entire u.k., there's not another place on the planet that has more per square kilometer coverage. they're already going through all of this.
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they're extremely experience, i worked with them and they are very good at these post attack reviews and investigations. they are going through very large data right now. identifying, they have already identified the individual who came in but they are also now looking for associates, people who may have arrived on site with them, as spotters or help is last-minute. they are correlating that video from prior days, looking for that moment of surveillance which tends to be the weak link in any terrorist plan. there's a lot of work going on here, they are gathering all the material they can on this device in the individual. the device itself, that tells you a great deal.
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you have serial numbers for component parts, you track that down, find the purchase point for that. credit cards, what does that do, leads you to another investigation. there is a process that you go through, it never changes. unfortunately, the u.k. police and security services have a great deal of experience there. >> kelly: i have to ask you a question, you talk about the process, processing the scene and where it might lead, let's talk about the processing of a parent. who sent a child to a concert on a school night, saying "i will meet you at such a time, such a place, you have people posting on missing boards, have you seen my child? have you seen my daughter? have you seen my son? let me know where they are. this is, this stabs a parent like myself in the heart,
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because you think "that could have been my child." how do you go beyond the processing of investigations and actually get into the processing of going through the hurt and finding their resolve, the hope and the faith to continue life so that it's no longer lived in fear because of a terrorist act? >> it's the absolute worst nightmare for any parent, i have four children. the idea that this would happen, no matter how many times incidents like this, overseas that you are involved in, and terrorist operations, and counterterrorism, it is still gnawing at you. >> kelly: i have to cut you short. or just wrap it up for me. >> there are two sides to it, if you are involved in the investigation, you have to set that aside. if you are a parent, what can
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you say? there are no words for that. >> kelly: i have two ended there, thank you for your insight, appreciate you so much. coming up more on that deadly attack in manchester, england, . did you know slow internet
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security executive in arizona. bernard, you're very familiar with these extremist groups here in the u.s. how prominent are these groups and how much of a threat do they pose to us here in the u.s.? >> the huge threat at the moment is this mutation of the world's largest religion to commit these atrocities in the name of god. and you know that you are dealing with an adversary that has a very powerful motive. they have culture to do something such as attacking little girls at a concert without any regard. the assumption has to be that we are vulnerable in all areas where we have crowds, large numbers of people, visitors, kids at school, all of those things have to be designed and reacted in a way assuming that this threat exists in the u.s. and overseas. >> arthel: how does it change the way security experts
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approach the lone wolf, the one off if you will? now we know as reported by the manchester authorities there, saying this was the work of one man, one suicide bomber who died in the process, they are calling it an act of terror and we are seeing more and more in the u.k. as well as in the united states where people are acting alone. how does that change the approach for intelligence agencies? >> it's the most difficult, obviously just like homicide, if someone was going to plan and commit a homicide and never tell of soul, it's completely reliant on the text technology to tech t that person. there are more conspirators to be revealed undetected, then somebody operating by themselves.
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improvised explosive devices are very civil to manufacture, they don't take a lot of money. you can get the information readily and it's very easy to conceal and deploy. it doesn't have to be a big device, the devastation of the explosive device is really based on its placement. you have a small device in a confined area moving a lot of mass, it can be complete of a state in. this is a very difficult threat to mitigate. >> arthel: when you say it is a difficult threat to mitigate, what you say to the public? certainly not to put the burden on them in terms of doing their own detective work, but we have to be vigilant. what is it that the public can do to look out for signs that they may be in danger? >> i think one thing in the contemporary united states is law enforcement is going to pay attention to odd behavior.
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people report the fact that they had an encounter that cause them concern. there may be at least a tertiary investigation of that person. my advice would be for people to not keep things to themselves when they see someone doing something that's really at odds, a cultural hatred, that type of thing. anything that seems remotely actionable. those people could actually act on something. they always have the opportunity of contact their joint terrorism task force, local police department. in terms of people that are making threatening statements, they have to be looked at. >> arthel: now that you've moved into the private sector, providing security for private citizens, what are you finding
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new in terms of having to approach your business with these private citizens? are they asking for different protection now? what you do there? >> my personal contention is that we need to industrialize our response to active shooter events and bombing events with the way that security is designed and structured, the way it is layered and processed with the assumption that these things are going to happen. i use the example of when the country was industrializing and building started to become building bigger and taller and more complex, a lot of people were dying in fires that wouldn't die today because of fire suppression systems, training for fire evacuation. the regulatory part that goes with building the building, you have to have these safeguards in place. i think in contemporary world history, this is the time that environmental design, policies,
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anything with the incorporation of the government entity, however. when you have a lot of volume of people, you have to plan under the assumption that active shooter events can happen and bombings can happen. >> arthel: we have to leave it there, we thank you for being with us here. kelly, the sentiment this evening, it has been that everybody has to work in concert. >> kelly: we do, we also have to plan. it's painful, it's a reality, it causes grief. we have to get to the point that we have resolved to overcome this and be proactive and be that vigilant person, when we see something, say something, it keeps coming back to that. >> arthel: it's not a trite phrase, it is a true to order. >> kelly: we should never allow terrorists to grip us with fear, we have to move on, we
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cannot let them disrupt our way of life which is exactly what they are trying to do. >> arthel: they work together, the holiday inn, two hotels nearby opened their doors to those who were looking for shelter. prevail. >> arthel: absolutely not. of the world joins great britain in morning. >> kelly: when we come back, we will take you live to london for the very latest on that bombing at our manchester concert. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be
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>> kelly: in manchester right now, the mayor is speaking, a couple of people have joined him. let's listen. >> what we did see, the message we have given the home secretary included that we need to be alert but not afraid, we must not let this stop us from going around and doing our everyday business. we have to demonstrate that life will go on and terrorism will never defeat us. we will see a heightened police presence on the streets today, we are likely to see armed police to reassure the people of manchester that we are doing everything we can to protect them and that life will go on.
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i will be heading over to headquarters after this, this press corps to take part in the meeting alongside the chief constable. of course there will be a further update after that. we will work with the government to give people the reassurance that they need. and to ensure that we return to business as usual as much as possible. >> reporter: [inaudible] >> that's a question for another
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day. our police service and all our emergency services were absolutely magnificent. i cannot stress to you how difficult the circumstances were that they encountered on the streets of the city last night. they provided the support for the public that they needed in the reassurance the public needed. questions of police resources are for another day, today we support our police service, our counterterrorism forces and we will ensure they get all the support that they need. >> can we recall that this is an incident that is still ongoing, we need to allow police and emergency services to get the job done for the time being.
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>> kelly: before we go any further, i am going to go to judy who has it been here. he said he used to be speaking, explain what will happen in that meeting. >> this is a meeting of senior political law enforcement leaders and they will discuss what is known. they will express to the country or social media, they look at the plan for following up this investigation and for any other threat, they are worried about additional targets. is this part of a broader threat to england and to the u.k.? >> kelly: we must not be afraid, life will go on impaired terrorism will not defeat us, we
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are doing everything we can to protect the people and way for return to usual in the city. kitty logan joins us now. >> high, we are also hearing details from police now, they told us that there was one attacker who died at the scene. they believe that burton was carrying and in improvise explosion. they don't know if this individual was acting alone or part of a wider network. the fact they also gave us earlier on was of this happened after 10:30 p.m. local time after a ariana grande concert in manchester. from witness accounts, it appears that that device exploded outside the venue as people were leaving. a lot of people were in there,
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20,000 people packed into that concert hall. people describe a massive explosion and there was a huge amount of panic in the aftermath of that blast. many young fans at that concert sadly, heartbreaking reports of parents still searching for missing kids. ariana grande herself treating "i am broken from the bottom of my heart." sadly, sources confirming that there were children that were killed. >> kelly: people waking up to this news in the u.k., how will they go on? we heard the mayor say they must go on, what are you hearing? >> that's right, he also pointed out that they will see more police on the streets of manchester. as a precaution to really give a message to the public, a clear message that they are to feel
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safe. we are also hearing that there will be an emergency meeting held within the coming hours to discuss the follow-up band of the investigation and it will now be a national investigation in the u.k. involving intelligence agencies as well as the police. to the u.k. is at a high level of alert. the authorities here have always been quite proud of it saying they disrupted many terror plots in the past. unfortunately, they were not able to disrupt this particular plot. also interesting to note, the u.k. is in the midst of an election campaign, the election is on june 8th. that campaign will not be suspended following this attack. >> kelly: kitty logan reporting from london, thank you. she reminded me of something about how police have disrupted
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so many terror plots in the past. we have two be right all the time, a terrorist has to be right one time. >> arthel: that's unfortunate, we want to let you know in another bit of unfortunate news, the death toll has now been raised to 22. the attack deliberately targeting young people. can we expect to see more of these types of attacks in the future? we will talk about that when we come back. once-daily toujeo® may help you control your blood sugar. get into a daily groove. ♪ let's groove tonight. ♪ share the spice of life. ♪ baby, slice it right. from the makers of lantus®, ♪ we're gonna groove tonight. toujeo® provides blood sugar-lowering activity for 24 hours and beyond, proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and significant a1c reduction.
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our jerusalem where we're standing by. he's going to take a five and a half hour ride from jerusalem to bethlehem. it tell more. before i handed over to you, we are getting word that john spicer tweeted that the president has been kept abreast on the situation in manchester. what do you have for us from your end? >> his motorcade is rolling right now, his motorcade is on the move heading to bethlehem. he will be making some remarks about this terror attack, the attack in manchester. when he meets with the palestinian authority president, he will go there and later today at the israeli museum which is
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just around the corner from our studio, he is going to be making a speech there. i think it's safe to say that he will be talking at more length about the attack. as far as his trip to bethlehem today, let me go through that a little for you. he is going to be meeting with palestinian authority president, we are looking at the feed as dignitaries and officials are waiting for his arrival. they will be discussing in particular, when president trump met with the here here, peace process. restarting peace negotiation talks between the israelis and paiat will be the number one topic in the president's discussion today with mahmoud abbas. he said the palestinians are
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hoping that they have two state solution, they are hoping to have a solution that keeps it jerusalem the capital of palestine. he was at the white house as you may recall earlier this month, he met with the president there and said under president trump, "courageous stewardship and leadership along with his great negotiating ability, a peace reached. >> let me jump in just for a second. we have live pictures now of the president's motorcade leaving jerusalem on the way to bethlehem. it is a five and a half mile trip there, a very extensive motorcade there. as we wrap up, we talk about this meeting with palestinian
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president mahmoud abbas and the idea of hoping to reach some sort of peace agreement. i think what everybody will be watching, tell me your take on this, i think people will be watching the way, the body language and the way mahmoud abbas receives it president donald trump. there was such a warm welcome on the part of prime minister cordon, i think that is something that everybody is going to be watching in terms of the physicality and body language involved. >> i think you are right. i don't think it be the massive reception that we saw yesterday at the airport, but they have the red carpet rolled out of the presidential palace there in bethlehem. they had a warm reception when they were at the white house. you will see the hand shaking, i think you will see president trump meeting with the other dignitaries, they may have
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a marching there, they have police and security officials as well. we will see what comes out of the comments that they make. i don't think we are going to hear any specific concrete negotiating points that are going to be brought up today, but all these initials will presumably be discussed. her two state solution, peace deal, probably israel sediment issues, and maybe even talk about moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem which has been a very divisive and contentious point. the motorcade is on the move, 5-mile trip to bethlehem, they should be there fairly soon. we are waiting for the president to also talk about the attack in manchester. >> arthel: the palestinian presidential palace there in bethlehem, you talk about that not being expected to have any
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major deal ironed out in this visit. it is a very tall order that awaits president trump as he tries to be the world leader to negotiate a peace deal. we responded earlier about mahmoud abbas wanting to go to the 1966 order. let me ask you, i wanted to talk to you about your reporting, you are there. can you tell from your perspective, what you've been digging up over there, how open is heat to coming to the negotiating table even if it doesn't happen today? >> for all he's said in public and to the president, he is open to it. there are those specific points,
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i am hearing for my producer that the motorcade is known bethlehem. he should be arriving at any moment. he has said that he is willing to negotiate, come back to the table with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. there are the specific points, some of them have been nonnegotiating points such as having the temple as the capital, a very contentious issue. they are going to have to come to specific terms and agree on specific points before any of that happens. both sides said that they are willing to negotiate. i think the main point here is this, the president can broker and get both sides back at the negotiating table. looking at the signal here, there is more action at the presidential palace, look like they are getting ready. the president's motorcade is in bethlehem. this should be happening, he should be arriving at any moment
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now. >> arthel: we are going to keep those live pictures up. when the president is arrived at the presidential palace, we will definitely listen in. meanwhile duty miller is still here with us. judy was just pointing out those points of contention, those points that have been deal breakers, nonstarter's to this point. judy, do you have any hope that the fact that there is a possibility of getting the two leaders back to the table at this point? do you feel it all hopeful that may be finally there will be some point that could be agreed upon? >> i think i have been watching this process for so long that i have two admit that i am not very hopeful. i think one thing that prime minister netanyahu is worried about is what he considered mr. trump's false
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hopes in the resurrection of this peace process. you have a palestinian entity split and the palestine authority on the west bank. the two of them do not like each other. maybe netanyahu is worried about pressure on his administration by the trump administration to resume a process they feel is a dead-end. the palestinians are not in a position to offer anything definitive. >> arthel: we look at the live pictures there, the presidential palace in palestine, you have the welcoming committee there. ruled out for president trump, and back to your point,
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president trump is it trying to accomplish what has thus far been completely mission impossible. >> the middle east is the land of miracles and perhaps there will be another one. but the 82-year-old mahmoud abbas has not been able to designate a successor to himself, he is not in good health. i am worried about the situation there and i think additional pressure of a peace process at this time is not actually going to make anybody's life easier. i wish it would, but i'm afraid i am a veteran of many failed peace prophecies. >> kelly: if i can jump in there quickly, you talk about this being a place of many miracles, look at this entire trip. going back to h.r. mcmaster, he said this would be a trip of america not going alone, now we see that the president is
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getting ready to get out to meet mahmoud abbas, the question i want to ask you is he went from the birthplace of islam to the birthplace of christ and he is getting ready to meet the palestinian leader mahmoud abbas as we see the president preparing to get out of that motorcade. >> arthel: before you start your answer, i am going to watch this and listen if we can get any sound there from the scene. not really. sometimes, that's where you get those nuggets. >> kelly: a lot of wind. >> arthel: not able to hear much. >> i think a lot of this trip in the middle east was an effort by the president to unite the
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muslims, and the christians of bethlehem and palestine into a joint effort, both in search of peace but also against isis and against terrorism. that's why he stopped in these three major places. this would be followed by a trip to the vatican. the president is really touching all religious bases here in an effort to deliver his message, not just america first but america is leading again. >> kelly: very important observation as we watch both of these leaders with the delegation there to greet them, an official ceremony for them. let's listen if we can hear tha that. ♪
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>> kelly: the president is doing what we recall review of the church there. he's being escorted by president mahmoud abbas of the palestinians. as he goes through, looking at the soldiers, that is quite an honor for the president of the

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