♪ >> this is a fox news alert. at least 22 people, including a number of children dead after a terrorist targets a packed arianna grande concert. ainsley: horrifying screams filling the air in manchester in that arena as 21,000 terrified fans are trying to get out of their alive. they are leaping over chairs and barriers just trying to escape. [screams]

oh my god. brian: police are calling it a terror attack. saying the cold blooded killer blew himself up with an air bomb. nuts and bolts flying area striking teenagers and some parents as they were leaving and meeting their kids at the end of the concert. steve: authorities now investigating if this was a lone wolf massacre or if he was part of a larger network. ainsley: the first teenage victim of this explosion has just been identified as 18-year-old george that bethany calendar. there she is in that picture. the arianna grande fan posting a picture taken just two years ago online before last night's concert saying she was so excited to see her again. steve: something going on this morning on social media. that is where given the fact that there are so many children who have not, you know, reported home to their parents, their friends and family members are concerned

and so, they are posting photo montages of many of the missing children on twitter. and if you go on twitter and facebook this morning, you will see things like that right there. ainsley: for those who don't have twitter attacks if you put in #manchester. that brings up anyone who is put in that #. a lot of these young kids are looking for their friends that went to the concert and they haven't been able to reach them. many people are saying they saw cell phones just being dropped on the ground. people were trying to get out of there. it might be people that just can't be identified because their cell phones are still inside the arena. brian: local inn go there and meet. hours since the attack. that's when we were all seeing unfolding. what an incredible job everybody did last night, especially shepard. i was watching streaming as well as online. ainsley: what age do your kids get to drop them off at the arena and say i will meet you.

brian: 15, maybe? ainsley: 15-year-olds trying to find their parents might not be able to find their parents and wandering around. brian: terror threat listed at severe greg palkot is right there. greg, sadly we have seen this before, there was annual attack not that wh horrific because couple of months ago, remember? >> exactly. we have seen it all across europe, a concert, in fact, attacked in france to brutal effect. also here quite brutal. i will set the scene for you here, cameraman pierre will show you some police here the leading edge of a stickers manchester on absolute lockdown. that silver canopy building you see behind us is victoria train station. it is the train station connected with the manchester arena and in between those two buildings is the lobby where according to police the attacker did his deed. according to reports, a suicide attacker, possibly armed with nuts and bolts to

do devastating harm, devastating effect in this area where he had public access to. but it was this area where those 21,000 mostly kids were just coming out of that. ainsley: hey, we are interrupting you because the prime minister theresa may is speaking now. >> the victims and families and friends of all those affected. it is now beyond doubt that the people of manchester and of this country have fallen victim a terrorist attack, an attack that's targeted some of the youngest people in our society with cold, calculation. this is among the worst terror incident we have ever experienced in the united kingdom. although it is not the first time manchester has suffered in this way. it is the worst attack the city has experienced and the worst ever to hit the north of england. the police and security services are working at speed

to establish the complete picture, but i want to tell you what i can a at this stage. 10:33 last night police were called to reports of an explosion at manchester arena in manchester city center near victoria train station. we now know that a single terrorist detonated his improvised explosive device near one of the exits of the venue. deliberately choosing the time and place to cause maximum carnage and to kill and injure indiscriminately the explosion coincided with the conclusion of a pop concert which was attended by many young families and groups of children. all acts of terrorism are cowardly attacks on innocent people. but this attack stands out for its appalling, sickening

cowardice, deliberately targeting innocent, defenseless children and young people, who should have been enjoying one of the most memorable nights of their lives. as things stand, i can tell you that in addition to the attacker, 22 people have died and 59 people have been injured. those who were injured are being treated in 8 different hospitals across greater manchester. many are being treated for life-threatening conditions. and we know that among those killed and injured were many children and young people. we struggle to comprehend the warped and twisted mind that sees a room packed with young children not as a scene to cherry irish but as an opportunity for carnage. but we can continue to resolve to thwart such attacks in future, to take on and defeat the ideology that often fuels this violence.

and if it turns out others to be responsible for this attack to seek them out and to bring them to justice. the police and security services believe that the attack was carried out by one man. but they now need to know whether he was acting alone or is part of a wider group. it will take some time to establish these facts and the investigation will continue. the police and security services will be given all the resources they need to complete that task. the police and security services believe they know the identity of the perpetrator. but at this stage of their investigation, we cannot confirm his name. the police under emergency services have as always acted with great courage and on behalf of the country, i want to express our gratitude to them. they acted in accordance with the plans they have in place and the exercises they conduct to test those plans. and they performed with the

utmost professionalism. 400 police officers were involved in the operation through the night and many paramedics, doctors, and nurses have worked valiantly amid traumatic and terrible scenes to save lives and care for the wounded. significant resources have been deployed to the police investigation and there continue to be visible controls around manchester which include the deployment of armed officers. so people who live and work in manchester, there remains a large cordon in place around manchester arena and victoria station which will be in place for some time. the station is closed and will remain closed while a detailed forensic search is underway. we know that many friends and relatives of people caught up in the attack are still trying to find out what has happened to their children, brotherssistd ones. so, please, think of those

people who are experiencing unimaginable worry and if you have any information at all relating to the attack, please contact greater manchester police. the threat level remains at severe. that means that a terrorist attack remains highly likely. but the independent joint terrorism analysis center, which sets the threat level on the basis of the intelligence available to them will continue to assess this throughout today and in the days ahead. later today, i will travel to manchester to meet the great constable in hopkins. the mayor of greater manchester andy burn numb and members of the emergency services who have coming to manchester's aid in its moment of need. and as i announced last night the general election campaign has been suspended. i will chair another meeting of cobra later today. at terrible moments like these, it is customary for

leaders, politicians, and others to condemn the perpetrators and declare that the terrorists will not win. but the facts that we have been here before and the facts that we need to say this again does not make it any less true. for as so often while we experience the worst of humanity in manchester last night, we also saw the best. the cowardice of the attacker met the bravery of the emergency services and the people of manchester. the attempt to divide us, met countless acts of kindness that brought people closer together. and in the days ahead, those must be the things we remember. the images we hold in our minds should not be those of senseless slaughter but of the ordinary men and women who put concerns about their own safety to one side and rushed to help. while the men and women of the emergency services who worked

tirelessly to bring comfort, to help, and to save lives. of the messages of solidarity and hope of all those who opened their homes to the victims. for they are the images that embody the spirit of manchester and the spirit of britain, a spirit that through years of conflict and terrorism has never been broken, and will never be broken. there will be difficult days ahead. we offer our thoughts and prayers to the families and friends of those affected. we offer our full support to the authorities, the emergency and the security services, as they go about their work. and we all, every single one of us stand with the people of manchester at this terrible time. and today, let us remember those that died and let us celebrate those who helped, safe in the knowledge that the

terrorists will never win. and our values, our country, and our way of life will always prevail. steve: there she goes back in to 10 down street. the prime minister of great britain, theresa may, calling it a terror attack that targeted children with cold, caucus. one bit of news, therefore sure she confirmed that apparently the bomber, the solo bomber has been identified but not named at this point. you would imagine. so the please could go to his place and figure out what he was occupy to. brian: and who else might have been with him. of course it's a bit of a risk when we say we think we know who he is scatter roll. they should scatter if they had anything to do with making that bomb. we did have a bomb-making expert on an hour ago. you could conceivably learn this on youtube and do it yourself. ainsley: earlier today we saw the president in bethlehem. now we are looking at him live.

he is back in the jerusalem area. he is at a holocaust memorial and we will have a speech at the israel museum. steve: that's right. brian: that's a little of that earlier. now, of course, you saw he is back with the prime minister and this is live. but earlier today he was in the palestinian territories in bethlehem. and this is where he is going to end his visit. steve: he did have some comments about whoever did this in manchester. and i think we have a sound bite. let's play it a little later on. ainsley: he did extend his deepest condolences to the families. he did say that these evil doers are losers. he will not call them monsters. he will call them losers, these terrorists doing. this he thought he said the wicked ideology needs to be obliterated. brian: what about that mind set of that wicked ideology. why do some celebrate while others are horrified. somebody who has to deal with

the worse o worst of the worst e baker is with us. do you understand where they celebrate, where isis celebrates and we're horrified? >> no. look, i have been doing this a long time. and overseas and operations against a variety of terrorists. you never get to that point where you necessarily understand it. it's a level of depravity that we have a hard time. we are not wired to understand this. i mean, look, just in terms of surveying the target, the manchester arena, these people don't live in a bubble. and, you know, this individual, the attacker who they have identified, they didn't act on their own. so there was surveillance -- they understand who was going to be in that arena. they understand it was going to be children and young people. and then the attacker himself goes in before setting off the device surrounded by children and young people. we don't understand that mind set. and so when you hear people

talk about how we just have to hold hands and come together and negotiate, i've been doing this a long time. and that's not going to work. you can't kill your way out of it. but, again, it doesn't mean you can't make a good faith effort. steve: sure. >> while also doing the other thing you need to do on other levels of this problem to try to hopefully minimize the future of it. steve: mike, you touched a moment ago on what theresa may, the prime minister of great britain said a moment ago, and that is that they apparently had idd d the bomber. what are the police doing at this point? >> right. well, i have contacted and talked to them. i have worked with them and metropolitan police over the years on various things. and contacts i have talked to said they have identified the attacker.

then dealing with people who are close to the individual, gathering information that they have been identifying and targeting addresses. this thing has been moving very quickly. five and six and the met and greater manchester police are very well experienced, unfortunately, i guess you could look at it that way. what they are doing right now is, there was post blast work. the forensic work, gathering all the information, the fragments, the pony comment part that might still be available from the device. there is gathering witnesses. steve: mike, pardon the interruption, the president of the united states is putting down a wreath right now. let's listen.

ainsley: you can see his daughter ivanka and jared, who are jewish as they stepped back behind the president and the first lady. the holocaust memorial. very emotional as we remember those who died in the holocaust. brian: dueling images here. many have speculated, mike it, seems like isis inspired or isis perpetrated attack happens while the president combines with saudi arabia and israeli and others to say they are taking on islamic extremist.

do you see it as a coincidence? >> well, what triggered this particular attack, whether it was the president's trip and that was publicized ahead of time. look, we have been retaking mostly. have you got the anniversary of the killing of u.k. soldier lee rigby in london five years ago. so whatever that was, what you can take away from this is this wasn't planned overnight. there was work involved. any time you have got something like, this the attackers have to do some target analysis even if it's minimal they still have to do it. my feeling, beared on experience is that there was surveillance of this site. there was surveillance probably of other sites. they narrowed it down. they decided the arena was the place they wanted to do this. and then there was the preparation, this communication, the government device and building and construction of that. hiding it away in the moment. and so this doesn't just happen because president trump makes a speech yesterday or whatever. there is planning that is involved in this. and right now the

investigators, mi 5 and the met and others in the u.k. they are going through the protocols. they are step-by-step. they are identifying associates of the attacker. they are talking and picking them up. they are searching addresses. they are doing all the work on cttt footage. what are they going to do? they undoubtedly have footage of this individual arriving at or near the site prior to the attack. they are looking at that with previous footage of the surveillance. was he with other individuals. are there other people who maybe have been on radar screen in the past? this takes time. it's a very heavy lift. but we're going to have answers here fairly soon. steve: it does sound as if they are saying over in great britain according to the tabloids over there that apparently the man did arrive at this particular venue via the train. and so you're right. they would look to see him there at the foyer and then go back through all the stations to figure out where he got on the train, right?

brian: which is pretty a amazing. thousands of people going and leaving the concert. some just milling about to be outside the concert. >> absolutely. the u.k. is blanketed with cctv cameras. i know some people with privacy concerns raise alarms about that sort of thing. they are not there -- the cameras aren't there for the average citizen. they are there for incidents like this to try to figure out exactly the extent of the network that was involved. ainsley: you touched on some of the timing there. president is in israel. is he seeking peace for muslims and christians and jews. he said earlier that we come to bethlehem asking god for a more peaceful and tolerant world. he is urging, mike, islamic leaders to confront extremism. what do the islamic leaders need to be saying? what message could they say to isis or is there any message to try to confront this and irradicate it as our president

said. >> that's a very good point. there is a message. we have been talking about this for how long, it seems like most of our lives. talking about how we would like to seat muslim leaders around of the world taking a stronger stand against acts of terrorism. so i think the president is on track in trying to push this issue. and trying to get them to take more ownership, if you will, of the problem. brian: you know what? , right now this number was put out by the telegraph that the u.k. say they have around 3,500 suspected terrorists. but they monitor less and less. >> right. they have got the same problem we have got here. the fbi, we talked about this. the fbi active investigations in every state of the union. resources stretched thin. they wonderful job but that's the reality of it mi 5 and the metropolitan police and others around the country, they are stretched thin. and they also have to work. we have to remind ourselves, you know, it's not like a

feature film. they work within the confines of the law. they do what they're allowed to do. this is not a 24 hour a day monitoring of every potential target. they have to work within the confines of when they can open an investigation, when they can close that file. when they can conduct surveillance. brian: mike baker, thanks so much for joining us. we will tap into you again when we learn more details about the investigation. steve: working two major stories this morning. of course the terror strike in manchester at the arena last night and also the president of the united states as you can see right there. he has been at an event just specifically for him at the holocaust memorial. joining us right now live in our studio is israel's ambassador to the united nations. ambassador danny danon. good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: tell us what the president was just doing there

at the holocaust memorial. >> holocaust memorial in israel. very short visit he came to pay respect for the 6 million victims of the holocaust. and we also honor israel. we don't take it for granted that the president of the u.s. is coming to israel. we appreciate that obama when he came to the middle east, he went to egypt. he skipped israel. the message there in the visit. in the future people around us would understand that the u.s. is standing with israel. brian: i think one of the things that benjamin netanyahu said yet we want to tell you how much we appreciate the leadership of the president in the middle east. the president is just few months in. do they already sense a change? >> absolutely. not only israel, the saudis, the egyptians, feeling something has changed. i feel it also at the u.n. when ambassador haley steps up. brian: how has she done? >> she is great.

she speaks through the values of the american people and we feel it that the sun still hostile ground and still attack israel but there is a wind of change. ainsley: this has been going on, this war has been going on for so long. is there hope that this headline could be true? which is the headline in the jerusalem post this morning. it is a tough deal but we will get there according to president trump. is he not saying i'm going to come over here and tell you thousand rule. i just want to come and represent peace. is there a hope? with that be achieved? >> we all pray for peace every morning. but unfortunately you look what happened in manchester a few hours ago, and we see what is happening at the palestinian authority today. a culture of hate. glorified terrorism. take for example went to israel killed two years ago. we captured of the terrorist. he was convicted and now he is sitting in jail. while is he in jail the palestinian government is paying him $3,000 a month. that's what they are doing. they are paying every

terrorist to kill innocent americans and israelis. they are paying them a monthly salary. brian: i met that family. they are in the office of tim scott from south carolina. and he just happened to be there and he got stabbed to death. steve: ambassador, that would be a good first step on the part of the palestinians to say you know what? we had done that but we should stop doing that. >> absolutely. that should be the first step and speak to the youngsters don't hate the israelis, don't hate the jewish people. they's speak about this let's first stop the hatred. steve: ambassador, hang on. the president of the united states is outside the holocaust memorial. we believe he may have a comment after he signs the book. brian: do you know what he is signing right now? >> that's true the visitor's book. every dignitary that comes to this place signs the book. i think the president will understand that for us it's unique. every dignitary we take in there. when you speak of the survivor of the israel. the security of israel. you have to bear in mind what happened at the holocaust. we have defend ourself.

brian: there would be no israel. this is the response, too. steve: obviously. is he writing more than just his name. you write your name and then a sentiment? >> when you walk in the corridors of yad space vashem you see the pictures of the children. you understand the horrors of the holocaust. ainsley: anyone is allowed to go in to yad space vashem? >> yes. ainsley: whether a is the flame. >> everyone can come and put something for the victims. brian: whole how the world views saudi arabia and view iran. pretty clear they are unified saying iran was the problem. wasn't too long ago when iran had a leader that denied the existence of the holocaust, that it even happened. >> unfortunately. still by the way unfortunately in iran, competition to promote the holocaust until this very day. promote hate against jewish

people. ainsley: symbolically or from a faith progressive what did it mean to you to have president trump >> the approach of the president is the right approach. is he not approaching a peace agreement. telling them to sit down and negotiate without preconditions. that is a way to promote peac peace. steve: ambassador, let's listen. here is the president. >> thank you. prime minister netanyahu sarah netanyahu. chairman shalib and rabbi israel miralow for hosting us for this moving wreath laying ceremony. we are here at adhav yad shameno

honor the 6 million jews. words can never describe the bottomless steps of that evil or the scope of the anguish and destruction. it was history's darkest hour. millions of innocent, wonderful and beautiful lives, men, women, and children were extinguished as part of a systematic attempt to eliminate the jewish people. it was the most savage crime against god and his children and it is our solemn duty to remember to mourn, to grieve, and to honor every single life that was so cruelly and viciously taken. as ely weselle said as for the dead and the living these words must bear into the

conscious of humanity forever. only when we remember the families that were to be apart from everyone they loved who suffered that terrible darkness and evil, who endured the unbearable horror of the holocaust. only then can we prevent this agony from ever repeating. this place and this entire nation are a testament to the unbreakable spirit of the jewish people. and the hope that light can shine the path beyond the darkness. through persecution, oppression, death and destruction the jewish people have persevered. they have thrived. they have become so successful in so many places. and they have enlightened the world. the state of israel is a

strong and soaring monument to the solemn pledge we repeat and affirm never again. from the depths of the suffering the jewish people have build a mighty nation and the star of david waves waves proudly above this land. as long as we refuse to be silent in the face of evil. as long as we refuse to dim the light of truth in the midst of darkness. as long as we refuse to become bystanders to barbarity, then we know that goodness, peace, and justifiable will ultimately prevail. with sadness, for the lives and dreams that were stolen from this earth, with determination to always keep the memories of the victims alive, and with resolve to confront evil wherever it

threatens, we ask god to give us the strength, wisdom, and courage to chart the righteous path. thank you, god bless the memory of the perished, god bless the survivors. god bless the jewish people, and god bless the state of israel. thank you for having me. thank you. steve: there you have got the president of the united states as he laid a wreath at yad vashem after making comments about the holocaust. 6 million lost their lives. we have danny danon from the united nations, he of course from israel as well. moving words from the president. >> absolutely. we hear that still today you have evil forces that attack innocent children and have to

understand you should not understand idolly by when you see attacking people. brian: right. and this is your prime minister now. >> thank you, mr. president. this historic visit. you are the first american president who chose to include israel on his first foreign trip. you are the first president in office to visit the western wall. we were so deeply moved to see that picture of you touching the stones of the wall and may i say we were deeply moved to see first lady melania trump touching the stone of that wall and equally moved when we saw your daughter ivanka and your son-in-law jared do the same. now you touch other stones.

you honor today the memory of 6 million jews who were murdered in the holocaust. a few weeks ago you gave a powerful speech in the holocaust memorial day in washington and today in this solemn place in the yad vashem great monuments of remembrance. we remember the holocaust. we remember the hatred towards jews that consumed a defenseless people. we pledge never to be defenseless against that hatred again. and to fulfill that pledge, israel must always be able to defend itself, by itself, against any threat. i appreciate america's long standing commitment to that principle and, mr. president, i appreciate your commitment to that principle. your commitment to the

security of the one and only jewish state, which is entrusted with securing the jewish future. you said, mr. president, just now, that we must confront evil in the world. we must confront the barbarians. they are sadly still with us. i want to say something about the bloody horror in manchester last night. the slaughter of innocence must be unconditionally condemned and unflinchingly confronted. no matter where it occurs. in wha manchester, intern, san o or jerusalem, terror is terror is terror. we must all unite to defeat it today you called the terrorists losers. i know you agree with me that it's our job to make sure that they continue to lose. we will defeat them.

thank you. thank you to first lady melania trump. thank you for taking such a strong stand for israel and the jewish people. it comes from the heart of all of us. thank you, mr. president. brian: there you go, remarks from prime minister netanyahu able to take the remarks from president trump just an hour ago and put into his remarks at the holocaust memorial. but i think it's also important to point out that the bond between these two was strong to begin with ambassador danon i think it has gotten stronger. >> great relations between prime minister and president trump and with israel. i sau can tell you we work together to fight terrorism day and night. ainsley: prime minister i was surprised -- steve: there is a presentation right now. any idea what he is presenting, it looks like the president, some sort of a? >> i think you receive a

picture of one of the victims of the holocaust. 6 million jews, it's hard to understand it the president will come back with a picture and the story of one victim of the holocaust. it will be easier for you to understand the scope of the tragedy. ainsley: images released of our president touching the wailing watch and that's what you do when did you go to that historic site. i was surprised when i ratified this morning that he is the first president of the united states that has ever gone to the wailing wall as a president. why is that? >> first sitting president actually coming as a president. other presidents came before in their campaign or after. and for the first time sitting president is coming to the wailing wall, to the holiest place of the jewish people. it speaks a lot and we appreciate that. ainsley: i was surprised because some people have gone there as presidents haven't haven't visited that historic -- >> -- i met with president trump before the election and he told me really wants to come to jerusalem and see

israel and so much about it come again, more time to feel the innovation and creativity in israel. brian: any thaw between you ambassador and ambassador between you danny danon and saudi arabia and egypt other nations? >> i meet quietly. appear at the court of the u.n. they ignore me. privately, yes, we have quiet conversations. brian: big difference. >> we walk together. unfortunately publicly not happening yet. president trump had a direct flight from saudi arabia to tel aviv. maybe in the future have direct flights for everybody. brian: how do you make that next step. >> open for that. it's up to them to move forward. steve: it certainly has been historic. thank you very much. >> thank you. ainsley: steve mentioned earlier we are covering two different stories earlier somehow combined into one story. the president is on his first trip as president outside of the united states on this world trip and this tour.

and while he was there, this attack happened in manchester. and we saw the prime minister of england come out theresa may come out of 10 down street and she stood in front of the podium. and this is what she said about the attack. >> all acts of terrorism are cowardly attacks on innocent people. but this attack stands out for its appalling, sickening coward disdid hcowardice. targeting young beam who should have been enjoying one of the most memorable nights of their lives. steve: indeed. she also went on to say they targetinged children with cold calculation. apparently used some sort of a backpack bomb filled with nails, perhaps. nuts and bolts. and ball bearings which sounds a lot what happened in boston in 2013. that's why we are bringing in ed davis of the boston police department. ed, good morning to you, when you see the images from

manchester, what are your thoughts? >> good morning. well, it brings a lot of injuries, frankly, when you see the shredded clothing and lower body exextreme injuries that were depicted in the pictures last night. it's clear that there are very similar type of impre improvised device was used. i know the officials are doing everything they can to run down the rest of this group. brian: 59 injured. 8 different hospitals. many in life-threatening conditions. you actually know that stat. you understand that terror. but, at the same time, you have to pursue the attacker and find out if there any accomplishments. in this case the attacker is dead. he was a suicide bomber. what about these hours. after the sun comes up. what are the investigators doing right now? >> well, the first thing they do is go to the bomb seat and they determine exactly what explosive was utilized.

that's done in an effort to identify forensics and connect in bomber who we have known have worked in the past. the other thing that they're doing is they are scrubbing all of their intelligence sources. they are looking at cellular sources occurring in the area to see if there was a telephone used here back and forth between the bomber and his accomplices. and then the most important thing they are doing today is running down the video. they know what this guy looked like. i have seen these -- the photographs of suicide bomb crime scenes. it's not hard to pick out the suicide bomber from that location. once you put together what he looked like. what kind of clothing he had on. you can track him backwards from where of the explosion occurred. they have extensive video in the u.k. they are yoursing that right now as a main source of investigation. brian: it blows me away that you say they identified. look how thick that crowd is look at the crowds on the street. you believe it's easier --

it's relatively easy to pick out hot killer was? >> yes. once they -- they go right back to the scene. they start at the explosion. and they will find the bomber there. they will determine what kind of clothing he is wearing. they will get a good look at his face. they will put those pose presidency, literally those pieces together. and then start to look at video as the bomber made his way into that location and out of this. they will track him backwards as far as they can go. the closer they get to where he put that bomb on where where he lived. the closer they are to the suspects he is associated with. ainsley: hard to deal with the investigators for the parent looking for children. as we were looking at the social media outlets you can see where people have put #manchester and then you see young girls saying where's mile friend? or this person is missing if you have seen them. it reminds me of boston it reminds me of 9/11. how do you deal with that as investigators? i guess you have certain ones

on the ground trying to figure out who this guy is looking at forensics and then some deelg looking at parents? >> no question. a hole team put together in the city of boston to deal with the victims and the victim's families. that started very early in the process. and the outreach to them is critical. for two reasons. one is it's the right thing to do. put the families together as quickly as possible. the other reason is the individuals close to this incident have information that we need. so getting them to tell us what they saw, exactly how things progressed, threes a critical part of the investigation. steve: you know, commissioner, just like up in boston, where the tanne tsarnaev. this guy went to the finish line of this arianna grande concert where, as the show

ended, everybody was going out the exits and he was right there in the foyer between the venue and the train station. >> right, as security experts we trouble with in all the time. wherever you put up a security perimeter, there is going to be a line that forms. that line is subject to attack. so, we have to increase our surveillance of that line do everything we can to separate the people who are there. and use undercovers more exclusively than we do to try to identify an individual who looks suspicious coming in there. that last line of defense as we saw in paris, where someone can step in and stop something from happening at the last minute is critical. brian: right. they are all responding here in the u.s. ed davis, thanks so much. >> thank you. steve: straight ahead, how far county government go to track down the terrorists willing to kill children? judge napolitano here with that answer next.

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steve: a fox news alert. a suicide bomber killed at least 22 people. hurting dozens more. many children among the victims as authorities frantically seek answers. jihadis now warn this is only the beginning. ainsley: how far county government go when it comes to hunting down terrorists wanting to harm our children. here is judge andrew napolitano. hey, judge. >> call me whatever you want it's such a sad time. i don't know how many of these we all have to listen to and cover when they happen. ainsley: when it comes to surveying over there is it easier to do that than it is here. >> no written constitution in great britain it has a variety of traditions that the court enforces. those traditions have been interrupted so that great britain is the most surveilled countrifully europe -- country

from europe. inside country buildings without surveillance. ainsley: why didn't they catch this guy. >> they are suffering from the same thing we suffer here. two things, information overload and the use of surveillance to investigate and prosecute rather than to prevent. before the surveillance, the police were more active in the community and if some crackpot was contemplating this. they would have heard it or gotten a whiff of it or had some suspicion about it. now, when they spend more of their time waiting for surveillance tapes to come in and then don't even look at the tapes until they need to this kind of stuff can happen. the country is mourning. we are all mourning. when i look at the faces of those kids they are babies and they're dead. they will didn't have an opportunity for their teenage and early adult years. but this could have been prevented with more traditional use of police work.

and less reliance on information overload. too much data coming in to the police to sift it out. not based on suspicion but based on let's get everything we can from everybody. steve: there are apparently 3500 terrorists under surveillance in great britain. however, you know, obviously, they just are stretched so thinly. >> yes. steve: you have got to wonder whether or not whoever and apparently they have figured out hot bomber is. they have not released the person's name is you have got to wonder whether or not he was on a terror watch list. >> commissioner davis how just hadden gave a great and easily understandable situation when the police will do. unfortunately this is after the event and not before. are they watching the other 3500? yes. they only have to miss one for a tragedy to happen. but, less reliance on high tech surveillance. and more involvement with the community. even based on whispers and got sip and innuendo will allow

them to focus on people as to whom there is suspicion rather than gathering everything about everybody and waiting for something to happen. ainsley: interesting. not that it made a difference, they didn't have security at the entrances there. i went to church on sunday. my sister and i -- >> -- had you to go through security? ainsley: had to go through a metal detect ter at church. at least we are doing that in america. thank you, judge. >> thank you. we will see you later. ainsley: so powerful shook the wall sparked panic throughout the building. >> oh my god. steve: what county explosives and the aftermath tell us about potential terror ties? that's coming up.

[explosion] >> oh my god. something happened [bleep] >> what's going on? >> oh my god. >> a fox news alert now at least 22 people dead, including children. and dozens more injured and many fighting for their lives at this hour in 8 different hospitals all because they went to an arianna grande concert and suicide bomber detonated an explosive so powerful it shook the walls. brian: what county evidence tell us about the terrorism, the level and where it came from. here to weigh until expert michael. what you take from what we know so far is? >> we had somebody detonate an explosive device. that explosive device. the level of so he face at sophn will tell us whether or not it's al qaeda and isis type attack. what i mean by that is, reports are now individual

detonated explosive device. if that carried the device and somebody else command detonated it. that would mean auto divide or isis. it wasn't suicide vest. it's a very sophisticated weapon system. something somebody carried. in we don't know yet. the level of sophistication of the bomb itself will tell us who is responsible. brian: here is what catherine herridge found out from dhs. if confirmed it's terrorism which we're, because theresa may said it level of sophistication beyond u.k. attacks. shrapnel concerning and premeditation and plot may have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization. >> right. it fits that assessment right now. have you an individual who went to a place where people were gathering. there is a level of sophistication in where the attack was carried out. brian: right. >> we need to see what the bomb looks like. brian: if i'm going a concert tonight am i seeing picked up security in america. >> i'm going to coon setter tomorrow night.

everyone should be vigilant and looking around. you should see uptick. seeing uptick at the entry at the facility and not necessarily outside. that's where the change needs to be made where people are gathering outside of these secure areas. outside of airports, outside of concert venues. outlines of stadiums there is a loft different things that we should be looking at. people should be vigilant. if you see something, say something. make sure you are saying something. brian: thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. brian: targeting innocent children. strike fear around the world to parents and kids. dr. mitchell waterboarded. so worst terrorists. he takes us inside the terrorist' mind. why they are celebrating today ♪ ♪ i was active. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. she also prescribed lyrica.

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arianna grande concert last night in manchester, england. ainsley: horrifying screams you can hear filling the air in that area in manchester as fans were leaping over chairs and barriers just trying to get out alive. >> oh my god. what's going on? something is happening. [bleep] going on. what's going on? [screams] >> oh my god. brian: police and theresa may calling it a terror attack saying the cold blooded killer blew himself one an air bomb guts and bolts flying area. striking teens leaving the concert. many of the parents picking up those teens or who attended that concert with their kids. steve: authorities now investigating if this was a lone wolf massacre or if the bomber was part of a larger network. ainsley: the first teenage victim of the explosion was identified as 18-year-old george that bethany calendar.

there is her picture. the arianna grande fan posting that picture right there that was taken two years ago online before last night's concert saying she was so excited to see her again. steve: all right. meanwhile, we heard from the prime minister of great britain just about 45 minutes ago. and she said that they had id the bomber but have not released his name. now we understand, breaking news, a man 23 years old, has been arrested in, according to greater manchester police, in south manchester, in connection with the bombing. a spokesman said with regards to have the ongoing investigation into last night's horrific attack at the manchester, arena, we can confirm we have arrested a 23-year-old man in south manchester. brian: so so the speculation is from homeland security that judging by the level of the so hsohe physician atsophisticatiod

bolts bomber. ainsley: it's interesting the timing of this. because it was four levels ago, on the exact date that was the public murder as you might remember of that british army soldier who was stabbed and actually hacked to death in the streets there also speaking about timing we have our president who is over in jerusalem he is meeting with the prime minister there. the palestinian prime minister and talking about peace and bringing peace and reminding us that all three religions need to work together. john roberts is actually with the president. is he in jerusalem with the latest there. good morning, john. >> ainsley, good morning to you. the president is supposed to be here at the israel museum in downtown jerusalem in 15 minutes time to deliver a speech was that supposed to be uplifting speech about the long history and unshakeable bond between the united states and israel and how that will continue to exist going into the future. but, of course, it's been tinged with tragedy that israel is all too familiar with. the president just a little

while ago was at yad vashem a solemn. before that he telephoned the prime minister of israel to offer condolences and any support the united states can give to deal with this horrible terror attack in mans whichster. the president will before this speech at the israel museum mention what happened at manchester. told his comments will echo very much what he said when he was meeting with the palestinian president mahmoud abbas in bethlehem a little while before he went to yad let's play for you quickly what the president said. very stern towards the people who carried out this heinous act. listen here. >> i will call them from now on losers. because that's what they are. they are losers. our society can have no tolerance for this continuation of blood shed.

we cannot stand a moment longer for the slaughter of innocent people. >> this is something that the president has been talking about here in the middle east, literally from the moment he touched down in riyadh, saudi arabia. speaking with king salman about that. a lengthy speech to muslim leaders and leaders of the arab world. some 55 leaders at the arab american sum mid saying that need to come to the table to defeat terrorism and need to irradicate it from their religious institutions. need to irradicate it from their countries and need to irradicate it from the earth. the president reiterated that you theme when he was speaking with mahmoud abbas. >> the terrorists and extremists and those who give him aid and comfort must be driven out from our society forever this wicked ideology must be obliterated.

and i mean completely obliterated. >> now, to that end, the president says that he has noticed a new spirit of cooperation among many nations in the arab world and muslim countries around the world citing new agreements coming to the plate really on terrorist financing. he was there with sing salman of saudi arabia ingnawing ingnag rating the center. what you have to say what happened in manchester really reinforces the notion it's not just one country that can be involved in trying to irradicate this. this really does require a global effort to stamp out the terrorists trying to carry out this act and beat the extremist i'd oolg that gives rise. brian: it's not a coincidence the president is trying to make some progress as are the saudis as well as the israelis and the palestinians about

tamping down on terror and the terrorists try to let you know you can't stop us. that's the message they want to send. >> it is the message that they want to send. but the president is sending a counter message to say together we will forge partnerships based on common interests and based on a common enemy. he does sense a new spirit of cooperation, particularly from some these countries that weren't necessarily so good at fighting terrorism. there are some out there clearly who are through back channels still funneling money to these terrorist organizations. the president on sunday in that speech. he wasn't lecturing to them, brian, but he really was calling them out to say if you want to have a different future for your children. if you want to be part of the global community, then you need to get together and do something about this. so i think what happened last night in manchester is going to resonate differently, perhaps, in this part of the world and other terrorist attacks. here in israel it resonates because they know all too well what happened in manchester.

brian: john roberts fell ting the president every step of the way in his journey. steve: president will be behind john in that room in 15 minutes. when he does, we will take you there momentarily. a 23-year-old man has been arrested in south manchester in connection with the manchester bomb attack. our own greg palkot is in that neighborhood to tell us the very latest. greg, do we have any idea who this guy is? >> hey, folks. the police are saying they have snagdz an individual about two blocks away from where we are right now at a shopping mall nearby. it appeared that initially it was part of the investigation in the follow-up of a terrible attack last night in manchester, but the latest word in fact we are getting from the greater manchester police is that he was not involved. what we're getting, in the past 45 minutes is probably a strongest words i have ever heard come from prime minister theresa may describing this incident last night. she called it an attack that stands out for its cowardice,

one meant for maximum carnage and underscoring it all, she says, among the dead and there were 22. among the injured, and there were 5 59 59 were children and teenagers. as we know, those individuals coming out of that arianna grande concert last night here at the arena with parents waiting for them outside. let's hear a little bit more about what prime minister may had to say today. >> an attack that's targeted some of the youngest people in our society with cold caucus. this icalculation. this is among the worst we have experienced in the united kingdom. >> fighting for their lives right now in 8 different area hospitals here in manchester, some of those children, some of those teenagers targeted by the attacker. as explained by prime minister may, the attacker was appearing to be a lone wolf at

least in his actions. he blew himself up at the scene. reports said he was armed with nuts and bolts. the kind of stuff we have seen firsthand do so much damage in the mideast. whatever, however, they also say they are looking for is any kind of support network, any kind of back jump to him and that's why the manhunt has spread far and wide around this metropolitan area. the second biggest metropolitan area in the u.k. here in the center it is on shutdown. while some parents are still waiting to link up with their children. there are still some children, according to reports, children or teenagers, who have gone missing in this attack and at least in one hotel, the parents are gathered, desperately, desperately waiting for the news. horribly seeing the scenes from last night. a scene of panic, a scene of chaos. a scene of blood shed. back to you folks. brian: thank you very much, greg palkot. the president is going to be speaking in 10 minutes. we will take you there when he finds his way to the

microphone as he finishes up those last minutes and last hours in israel. ainsley: just waking up. 7:09. many people have just woke up at 7:00. on the train station does connect to concert hall arianna grande was singing last night. he said two blocks down the road there was a scare at a shopping center. that's where 23-year-old was arrested. we are not sure if he is in in connection with with what happened at the concert last night. he is talking about kids being separated from their parents because a lot of these teenagers, their parents dropped them off. they went in and witnesses said people were running for their lives. dropping their cell phones so parents can't get in touch with them. steve: the holiday inn express opened up their doors and took in 60 kids and so did the crown plaza hotel gave them immediate refuge. bring in james mitchell the author of enhanced interrogation. the thing striking so many people about this cold blooded attack or cold calculation as

the prime minister said this morning is they clearly targeted kids. why would they target kids? >> well, one of the things that khalid sheikh mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11 told me was that kids were one of those weapons that allah had provided so that al qaeda could discourage and punish those people who are resisting the imposition of truism. he said that kids are legitimate targets because not only do they provide the parents with a reason to continue fighting, because they want a better future than is usually found inside of sharia, right? but also, if you allow your enemy's children to live, it restocks the ranks of the infidel that you are trying to eliminate. we have seen that historically with all kinds of barbaric folks go in and kill the young males and so we shouldn't be enterprised to see that.

steve: that's one of the craziest things i have ever heard. >> it's crazy. you and i don't think that way. it's -- here -- we tend to see things through the eyes of the west, right? earlier, i said i'm not surprised that they would target children because when i look at that concert, i see young people enjoying themselves. i see young people having a good time. i see young people excited about living their lives. when an islamist looks at that concert they see something entirely different. they see something that they view as obscene. something they view as insult to islam. so, in their minds, they don't see it as cowardice. they don't see it as a horrific act. they see it as something that they can do to create enough horror and enough terror to be able to intimidate those people that would oppose them. ainsley: that shows you how sick they are they could attack children. you have looked in the eyes of

many of these terrorists, the worst of the worst. this guy who is arrested. this 23-year-old, what are they doing right now? how are they interrogating him or her? >> first, think they are trying to figure out whether or not he was actually involved. my guess would be if he has been arrested under some sort of special dispensation that allows them to do it, they will be looking at his emails. they will be looking at his tweets. they will be looking at his social media. they will be looking at his contacts and see if there is any link between him and any support network that this bomber had it seems -- one of the things -- i used to be a bomb squad guy and i was on -- i are seen al qaeda's bombs. one of the things that's maybe not so clear to your viewers is that bombers have signatures. they can tell from the remnants of what they picked up whether or not those are military explosives, whether

or not they were made locally, and from the way that the thing is wired, they can figure out who probably either the teacher or the master bomb maker was or whether it was something he cobbled together himself. the brits are brilliant at this. our problem and i would agree with judge napolitano, is that we are playing catch up. we treat this like a law enforcement issue instead of being proactive. it has been one of my chief concerns all along. in law enforcement, a crime has already happened. in the united states, we have civil rights, which i applaud and don't want to see removed, but those civil rights make it very difficult to act preemptively to stop these kinds of attacks. brian: that's why the president of the united states, who clearly is showing the muslim world he is not anti-muslim. we are say going most of the terrorists are coming from these nations who can't identify who is coming here. at least there has got to be a pause to protect the american people. it seems almost logical.

now, you know most of the hijackers are from saudi arabia. do you believe we saw a different saudi mind set two days ago? >> i do. you know, i have mixed feelings about the saudis. i don't like that they export wahhabiism, on the other hand, they have been very good allies in the fight against al qaeda and isis. afternoon the reason for that, of course, i think, is their own interest. they are apostates. and the terrorists, who want to impose sharia law would like to kill them and establish a caliphate. so it's in their best interest and oh, by the way. it's in the best interest of every other leader in the middle east to get on board because they are all seen as apostates, too. one of the things that pleases me about what president trump did is he has gotten the leaders maybe a little bit more on board. but it's not the leaders. they're necessary but not sufficient. it's the clerics.

it's the scholars, it's the religious leaders. it's the people who have the optional friday afternoon lectures in these radical mosques that have to be brought on board. if we just change the leader's minds and don't get rid of the scholars or change what the scholars are saying, then we're not really going to do anything. brian: that's an important point. you said scholars. when you talk to khalid sheikh mohammed you are talking about a guy that went to college. khalid sheikh mohammed a guy who is a doctor. it's their choice to be terrorists, intellectual choice which i find more challenging. >> well, you know, one of the things that i have run into around the country when i have spoken with folks they often say if they just understood us better. oh, no, they understand us. they reject it. that's the difference. it's not that they don't know how we live. it's that -- they think the way we live is an obscenity

that needs to be curtailed and flee dofreefreedom and democract coexist with cherie a the proximity to this terror attack with the british election he is. it's not unusual for these terror organizations to try to influence elections by having an attack just before it and what often happens is those people that they have already intimidated turn out in droves and vote for the person who is likely to be more passive in their attempt to control the spread of sharia. steve: james, a moment ago you mentioned the president of the united states. president trump. he is going to be speaking momentarily at the israel museum. we're going to take folks there. as you can see, everybody is ready and another minute or two. meanwhile, going back to what happened last night in manchester, there is a story out today that and brian brought this up. 3500 suspected terrorists in great britain, you know, they

are doing their best, god bless them, to try to keep them under surveillance. but i think the big question today is going to be now that they know who this guy apparently was. is was he on the list? were they keeping eyeballs on this guy and if not all the time, why not? >> well, it's a problem. the problem is that and i don't -- i don't want to sound like some sort of thug. but the problem is why have civil rights that allow them to operate in the open for the post part until they commit a crime. let me share one thing with you. as you know i'm being sued by three terrorists. their aclu lawyers will not even stipulated that 9/11 happened. with that kind of approach to this, it's very difficult to get in to preemptively stopping these kind of attacks because they have people who protect them under the guise of protecting the civil rights. brian: by the way, they are

suing you because you are anti-terror. and lawyers sneaking pictures to their terrorist clients of you and others. that have -- and with your addresses. providing information on you should they -- should an operative want to target you. ainsley: is it worth it then? >> well, they did do that. they did that. they snuck them in to the terrorists at guantanamo bay. it wasn't the aclu lawyers. it was the lawyers down in guantanamo. different set of lawyers. same mind set. ainsley: is it worth it then? why would you ever want to do it then as a career? it seems so scary. >> to save lives. brian: is he a patriot. >> i come from a background where people are willing to set aside their own safety to protect other people. that's what we are and america needs patriots who are willing to do that. what they should do is stand behind those who are doing it and they should

stand behind those responders in london. i mean in england, especially in manchester. they need to stand behind them rather than vilifying them. ainsley: after 9/11 and knowing what happened in boston, seeing this. we thank you for that. you talked about the timing in this. and theresa may, they have decided to -- i think we lost him. steve: we just lost him. ainsley: they did decide to election june 8th. she is, from what i'm reading about her. she tied other own security. ainsley: we are waiting right now on the president to be speaking. you can see melania there. they are at the israel museum. they just left yyadvashem a holocaust memorial. sarah netanyahu and our president is going to be speaking at the israel museum. brian: little bit behind

schedule. the bond seems to be growing thicker between the two countries and two leaders. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, this museum tells the story of israel. mr. president, you have just gone through a fast paced visit through our past, our present, and we work together to fashion the future. here you can see hebrew text of the bible that are 2,000 years old.

you can see the seals and coins that bear witness to nearly 4,000 years of our presence in this land. you can see the we lit, synagogues we prayed in during our long exile. the story of israel is not simply the story of the past. it's the story of a nation we bourn of a barron land brought back to life, of an ancient language revived of an exiled people who returned of jewish sovereignty restored. we have a saying, mr. president, the people of israel lives. the state of israel lives on. they are alive as ever. a thriving democracy, a powerful army, imknow vaive, free economy. and a proud, resilient people. mr. president, over the years, israel has had many friends, but israel has never had and

will never have a better friend than the united states of america [applause] that friendship is reflected in the overwhelming support of the american people, strong bipartisan support of the american congress, and the supports of american presidents from harry truman, to donald trump. [applause] thank you, president trump, for your steadfast friendship to the jewish people and the jewish state. it is deeply, deeply appreciated. mr. president, i believe that the alliance between america and israel is more important than ever. together we must defeat those who glorify death and protect those who celebrate life.

together, we can defeat the forces of militant islam, who seek to destroy the civilized world. and together we can and we must defeat the forces of terror. terrorism, the deliberate slaughter of innocence must be equally condemned and equally fought, whether it strikes in europe, in america, or in israel, or for that matter anywhere else. and as you said this morning, mr. president, funding and rewarding terrorism must end. standing next to you president abbas condemned the horrific attack in manchester, i hope this heralds a real change. because if the attacker had been palestinian and the victims had been israeli children, the suicide bomber's family would have received a stipend from the palestinian authority. that's palestinian law. that law must be changed. [applause]

i hope that president abbas heeds the principles, the clear, strong moral and practical principles that you enunciated today, president trump. stop rewarding terrorists, stop glorifying murderers. i believe this is the first and the crucial step towards the road to a genuine peace that israel seeks, and that i believe that together with you we can achieve. president trump working with you, i believe we can advance peace between israel and arab neighbors as well as the palestinians because of the common danger that the arab world and israel face from iran. and because of the leadership that you bring to this process. ultimately, around the world, i have no doubt that freedom

will defeat fear, that light will vanquish darkness, because that is the story of america. a nation that has defeated the forces of tyranny, the beacon and hope of all humanity and that is the story of israel, a nation that has overcome unmanageable odds and hope of the jewish people. mr. president, thank you for your historic visit, for your unbelievablably moving gestures. and a concentrated 36 hour period in israel. have you touched the core and the stones of our being and the quote of the western wall yesterday now and yad vashem and now in our wonderful museum you and first lady melania trump, your family and your delegates, have you shown a great commitment to israel's future and to its security.

i want to thank you, mr. president, for standing up for israel at the united nations and everywhere else. [applause] and i thank you for your unrelenting support and a friendship that comes from the heart to the jewish people and the jewish state. thank you, president trump. god bless you and god bless israel. and god bless the united states of america. [applause] [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. [applause] [applause]

[applause] thank you very much. that's very nice. and thank you to prime minister netanyahu. and i also want to thank sarah for hosting us last night in really a very unforgettable dinner. we had a great time. we talked about a lot of very, very important things. and thank you to ambassador david freidman and mrs. freidman for joining us along with a number of very good friends who have come from our country to yours as we reaffirm the unshakeable bond between the united states of america and israel. thank you. [applause]

i would like to begin my remarks today by sending the thoughts and prayers of the entire american people to the victims of the terrorist attack in manchester. you know, you have been all been watching. you've seen just a horrible thing going on. i want to send our condolences to the many families who lost their loved ones. horrific, horrific injuries, terrible. dozens of innocent people, beautiful young children, savagely murdered in this heinous attack upon humanity. i repeat again that we must drive out the terrorists and the extremists from our midst.

obliterate this evil ideology and protect and defend our citizens and people of the world. [applause] all civilized nations must be united in this effort. this trip is focused on that goal. bringing nations together around the gulf of defeating the terrorism that threatens the world and crushing the hateful ideology that drives it so hard and seems to be driving it so fast. it is a privilege to stand here in this national museum in the ancient city of jerusalem to address the israeli people and all people in the middle east who yes or nyearnfor security, prosperity d peace.

jerusalem is a sacred city. its beauty, plenty door are like nsplendor are like noother plac. [applause] >> what a heritage. what a heritage. the ties of the jewish people to this holy land are ancient and eternal. [applause] they date back thousands of years, including the reign of king david whose star now flies proudly on israel's white and blue flag. yesterday, i visited the western wall and marveled at the monument to god's presence and man's perseverance. i was humbled to place my hand

upon the wall and to pray in that holy space for wisdom from god. i also visited and prayed at the church of the holy accept st sepulchre. i laid a wreath a yad d vashem honoring the 6 million jews killed in the holocaust. i pledge right there what i pledge again today, the words never again. [applause] israel is a testament to the prl unbreakable spirit.

one message resounds. that is the message of hope. down through the ages, the jewish penal have suffered persecution, oppression, and even those who have sought their destruction. but through it all, they have endured and, in fact, they have thrived. i stand in awe of the accomplishments of the jewish people and i make this promise to you: my administration will always stand with israel. [applause] [applause] [applause]

[applause] >> thank you very much. through your hardships, have you created one of the most abundant lands anywhere in the world, a land that is rich, not only in history, culture, and opportunity, but especially in spirit. this museum where we are gathered today, tells the story of that spirit. from the two holy capitals to the glorious heights. we see incredible story of faith and perseverance. that faith is what inspired jews to believe in their destiny, to overcome their despair and to build here, right here a future that others dared not even to

dream. in israel, not only are jews free till the soil, teach their children, and pray to god in the ancient land of their fathers and they love this land, and they love god. but muslims, christians, and people of all faiths are free to live and worship according to their conscience and to follow their dreams right here today, gathered with friends, i call upon all people, jews, christians, muslims, and every faith, every tribe, every creed to try inspiration from this ancient city to set aside our sectarian differences, to overcome oppression and hatred, and to give all children the freedom and hope and dig nism at this written

into our souls. earlier this week i spoke at a very his tonk summit in saudi arabia. i was hosted by king salman, very wise man. there i urged our friends in the muslim world to join us in creating stability, safety, and security and i was deeply encouraged by the desire of many leaders to join us in cooperation towards these shared and vital goals. conflict cannot continue forever. the only question is when nations will decide that they have had enough. enough blood shed, enough killing. that historic summit represents a new opportunity for people throughout the middle east to overcome sectarian and religious divisions, to extinguish the

fires of extremism and to find common ground and shared responsibility and make it the future of this region so much better than it is right now change must come from within it can only come from within. no mother or father wants their children to grow up in a world where terrorists roam free, school children are murdered and their loved ones are taken. no child is born with prejudice in their heart. no one should teach young boys and girls to hate and to kill. no civilized nation can tolerate the massacre of innocence with chemical weapons. my message to that summit was the same message i have for you.

we must build a coalition of partners who share the aim of stamping out extremists and violence and providing our children a peaceful and hopeful future, but a hopeful future for children in the middle east requires the world to fully recognize the vital role of the state of israel. [applause] on behalf of the united states we pledge to stand by you and defend our shared values so that together we can defeat terrorism and create safety for all of god's children. [applause] israelis have experienced firsthand the hateful of.

wielding knives and bombs. hamas and hezbollah launch rockets into israeli communities where school children have to be trained to hear the sig sirens and to run o the bomb shelters with fear but with speed. isis targets jewish neighborhoods, synagogues, and store fronts. and iran's leaders, routinely call for israel's destruction. not with donald j. trump. believe me. [applause]

[applause] [applause] >> thank you. >i like you, too. [laughter] despite these challenges. israel is thriving as a sovereign nation and no international body should question the contributions israel makes to the region and, indeed the world. today, let us pray for that peace and for a more hopeful future across the middle east. there are those who present a false choice. they say that we must choose between supporting israel and

supporting arab and muslim nations in the region. that is completely wrong. all decent people want to live in peace and all humanity is threatened by the evils of terrorism. diverse nations can unite around the goggle of protecting innocent life. upholding human dignity and promoting peace and stability in the region. my administration is committed to pursuing such a coalition and we have already made substantial progress during this trip. we know, for instance, that both israelis and palestinians seek lives of hope for their children and we know that peace is possible if we put aside the pain and disagreements of the past and commit together to finally resolving this crisis which has dragged on for nearly half a century or more.

as i have repeatedly said, i'm personally committed to helping israelis and palestinians achieve a peace agreement. and i had a meeting this morninthismorning with presidens and can tell you that the palestinians are ready to reach for peace. i know you've heard it before. i am telling you that's what i do, they are ready to reach for peace. and my meeting with my very good friend, benjamin, i can tell you, also, that he is reaching for peace. he wants peace. he loves people. he especially loves the israeli people. benjamin netanyahu wants peace. making peace, however, will not be easy. we all know that. both sides will face tough decisions.

but with determination, compromise, and the belief that peace is possible, israelis and palestinians can make a deal. but even as we work towards peace, we will build strength to defend our nation. the united states is firmly committed to keep iran from developing a nuclear weapon and halting their support of terrorists and militias [applause] so, we are telling you right now that iran will not have nuclear weapons. [applause]

america's security partnership with israel is stronger than ever. under my administration, you see the difference. big, big beautiful difference. [applause] including the iron dome missile defense program which has been keeping the israeli people safe from short range rockets, launched by hezbollah and hamas. and david's sling which guards against long range missiles. it is my hope that some day very soon israeli children will never need to rush towards shelters again as sirens ring out loud and clear. finally the united states is

proud that israeli air force pilots are flying the incredible new american f-35 planes. [applause] there is nothing in the world like them to defend their nation and it was wonderful to see these mighty aircraft in the skies over israel recently as you celebrated the 69th anniversary of israel's independence. but even as we strengthen our partnership and practice, let us always remember our highest ideals. let us never forget that the bond between our two nations is woven together in the hearts of our people. and their love of freedom hope and dignity for every man, and every woman. let us dream of a future where

jewish, museum, and christian children can grow up together and live together in trust, harmony, tolerant and respect. the values that practiced in israel have inspired unless and unless of people all across the world. the conviction of theodore hearsal rings true today. whatever we attempt, there for our own benefit we'll rebound mightily and beneficially to the good of all mankind. as we stand in jerusalem, we see pilgrims of all faith coming to this land to walk on this hallowed ground. jews placed the prayers from their hearts in the stone blocks brft beautiful western

wall. exringss pray in the pews of an answer shengt church. muslims answered the call for prayer at their holy sites. this city, like no other place in the world, reveals the longing of human hearts to know and to worship god. yers yers stands as a reminder that life can flourish against any odds. when we look around this city so beautiful and we see people of all faiths engaged in reverent worship and school children learning side by side and men and women lifting up the needy and forgotten. we see that god's promise of healing has brought goodness to so many lives. we see that the people of this land had the courage to overcome the oppression and injustice of the past and to

live in the freedom god intends for every person on this earth. today in jerusalem we pray and we hope that children around the world will be able to live without fear, to dream without limits, and to prosper without violence. i ask this land of promise to join me to fight our common enemies, to pursue our shared values and to protect the dignity of every child of god. thank you, god bless you, god bless the state of israel, and god bless the united states. thank you very much are thank you. [applause] steve: we just heard about a 20-minute speech from the president of the united states there on stage at the jerusalem israeli museum that is to say in jerusalem with the prime minister bibi netanyahu. according to schedule, they are a little behind schedule but they are supposed to take

off, the president is, in about an hour at 8:45 this morning. and so we would imagine they will leave the museum right here and the president will then chopper over to the tel aviv airport. ainsley: look at the bottom of the screen there the president said iran will not have nuclear weapons. pretty powerful. brian: he also reaffirmed his belief that he is going to enforce the bond between the two nations more than the previous administration. and he got a standing ovation for that, when he said not under donald j. trump. steve: indeed. brian: the president being received wraps up two strong legs of his journey. ainsley: now he is going to meet with the pope. steve: we have a fox news alert at 10 minutes before the top of the hour we just learned 7 dangerous terrorists are dead after a u.s. navy seal raid and air strikes overnight it happened at al qaeda compound in central yemen. the goal was to grab laptops

and mobile phones and other intel things to learn mother-in-lamore about theaqap . in january they carried out similar operation in province killing william ryan owens. brian: that is now a new theater of operations that we have consistent operations in because we feel as though al qaeda cannot take -- every time we see them putting down roots, it's up to us to unearth them. coming up ahead in the next 1 1 hour and 10 minutes on our show. take a look at the president's trip fresh off a trip to israel on route to the vatican. see how it is going now with experts. ainsley: also news of aarrest in manchester and we have those details for you. steve: it's a fluid situation. and apparently they have grabbed a 23-year-old man who has been arrested in

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brian: 22 dead after the attack last night at the arianna grande concert at this huge concert hall as the concert came to a close, explosion went off. suicide bomber was found. they have already made one arrest. i want to now bring in by the way isis has just taken responsibility for the attack. they say one of their members was the one who perpetrated this horrific crime killing, we understand sadly children. let's bring in now milwaukee

county sheriff and a familiar face here on fox news, david clarke. sheriff clarke, we understand the dhs has responded. they have no credible reports here, but i imagine security is going to change in concerts for the foreseeable future. am i correct? >> yeah. it has to. it's going to be the way of life for some time. doesn't he make you proud to listen and watch him on the world stage and the world gets to see that we have a leader. he is not out there on this apology tour. he is out there and he knows, he being president trump knows that america must take the lead. sure we need allies, but we must take the lead whether we like it or not to root out terrorism. the world comes together in condemnation of what we saw last night in manchester. you know, the gore, the ugliness, the pain, the death, we grieve with them but at the same time the world is going to have to come together. this president knows that. and show the resolve to root these individuals out and kill them. i was glad to see this navy

seal raid and there have been several like that. those are the sort of things that are going to have to be necessary. the world is going to have to support us. come along with us or support us if they don't want to or have the means. this is a worldwide problem. i have said this before. it's just a matter of time before there is a suicide bomber in the united states again. and you know, it's going to be a game changer, obviously. have you mentioned the changes that are going to be necessary in some of these massive events. that's what the terrorist does they go after events where there are a lot of people so they can inflict a lot of damage. we cannot shut down the american way of life because of this. we're going to have to stare this evilness down. al qaeda once again shows that their immoral elevator has no bottom floor. these are the people who put people in cages and set it on fire. put people in cages and dropped it in water to have people drowned. chopped off heads. attacked christians in prayer on palm sunday. you know, it's unbelievable that there are still people in this country and they're mainly on the left, who don't

see this for the crisis that it really is and they find excuses for this off and on sense and it's got to stop. brian: as the sheriff continues his journey, we will also follow the attacks over in london. sheriff clarke, thanks so much. back in just a moment.

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until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica. brian: fox news alert. moments ago, isis officially taking credit for the bombing of the concert in manchester. right now the number is 22 dead. and among the dead, young children, some as young as 8 years old. 59 others were hurt, many struggling for their lives right now. steve: horrifying screams from the air outside that arena as 21,000 terrified fans heard the bang and then tried to get out of there as quickly as they could leaping over chairs and barriers, doing everything they could to escape.

>> oh, my god. ainsley: police are calling this a terror attack saying the cold-blooded killer blew himself up with a nail bomb near the exit. nuts and bolts were flying around striking teenagers that were trying to leave that concert. parents are still frantically searching for their children that are missing this hour separated by the explosion. >> i don't know where she is. i don't know if she's alive even yet. i'm just trying every social media just going straight through. ainsley: a parent's worst nightmare. authorities are investigating if this is a lone wolf or if he was part of a bigger network. we know a 23-year-old is in custody in connection with this.

brian: the first one has been identified as 18-year-old georgeenea, a fan posting this picture two years ago online before she went to last night's concert saying she was so excited to go see her again. ainsley: obviously she's the one on the left. brian: the worst attack on them with 52 dead and multiple suicide attacks, remember. and then four years ago was really hatcheted, murdered on video horrifically in the middle of the street in a brutal violence. gregg is live in manchester with the latest news on a arrest. is that true, gregg? >> there was a arrest, brian, but police tend to be backing away from that arrest and the horrendous attack as part of a broader investigation. this city is still reeling

from a horrific attack and teresa may summing it up better than anyone. she said quote this attack stands out for its cowardous, it was done for maximum carnage and children and teenagers were targeted. here's more of what the prime minister had to say. >> images with he hold in our mind should not be those of senseless slaughter but of the ordinary men and women who put concerns about their own safety to one side and rushed to help. >> a lot of emergency help here. again, 22 killed. we learn that 59 are injured and one report backed up to some degree by the prime minister, 19 in critical condition in eight different area hospitals. and according to the health authorities here, 60 others were treated at the scene. this was a horrific attack. we've seen the video, the

carnage, the bloodshed, the young women, the young girls, teenagers, children running at what should have been a very fun concert, but it was anything but. as you've been reporting, isis is now formally claiming responsibility saying that this individual who was responsible for the attack is a soldier in isis. that's only intensifying the search for any back up folks. the actual attack, it is believed by police was done by one and one person loon. but did it to a deadly effect. it was a suicide bomber perhaps nuts and bolts creating a scene of carnage. back to you folks. steve: all right. in manchester where they're trying to put the pieces together. this happens while the president of the united states has been in israel and the west bank. overnight, the president, his strongest language yet regarding terror and particularly these people who struck at children. here's the president last night in bethlehem.

>> we stand in absolute solidarity with the people of the united kingdom. so many young, beautiful, innocent people living and enjoying their lives murdered by evil losers in life. i won't call them monsters because they would like that term. i will call them from now on losers because that's what they are. they're losers. our society can have no tolerance for this continuation of bloodshed. we cannot stand a moment longer for the slaughter of innocent people. the terrorists and extremists and those who give them aid and comfort must be driven out from our society forever. this wicked ideology must be obliterated.

all civilized nations must join together to protect human life and the sacred right of our citizens. to live in safety and in peace. ainsley: very appropriate because the president when he was running, he kept talking about you're going to get tired of winning, we're going to be a nation of winners and now he's calling these terrorists, they're taking children away from their parents, they're losers. not just losers in life but losers in war because they will be defeated. brian: most of her followers are young and some eyewitnesses and they said they saw from 8 to 16 year old girls. some with parents, others around 14, 15 had parents waiting on the outside. and one parent said this. i was waiting through the first set of doors for his daughter to walk out and as the explosion went off, it through me 30 feet to the next set of doors, and he saw people and carnage around him. ainsley: when we talked about

what happened to boston. we've all been to a race on the sidelines. we've all been to a concert, especially to mothers as young girls. you want to go to these events and enjoy it and have them experience things like this and have great memories for the rest of their lives. steve: absolutely. you have to figure they had tickets in hand for a while, as kids love to do. hey, she's coming in town, let's get the tickets. the parents get the tickets, look forward to it, they go, it's a nightmare. a former israeli defense forces joins us live right now. aaron, when you look at what happened, the lay of the land you have this big arena with 23,000 kids in it and you have the subway stop. and in the middle of it, you have the forier and the person detonated to the maximum number of people because the concert was over,

they were going home, having a great time, and then all hell broke loose. aaron. >> yeah. it was clearly a planned attack and the terrorist went with the target of least resistance. reports i'm hearing with the site security said that the security was fairly relaxed. i'm not sure there's any significant back checking before. the terrorist choosing to detonate himself while the concert was exiting is exactly what they do. they mold and form themselves in order to be able to go after crowds. terrorists love crowds. and what we should be thinking about is any type of crowded event. we should be looking at the crowds and figure out how to infiltrate those to avoid some catastrophe. brian: i haven't been to an event in the last five years that i wasn't forced to empty my pockets, even with press as well.

if you have a bag, they have to go through it. just like an airport. ainsley: even in church it happened on sunday. brian: i did not know that. but i will say this. i thought was on the money when he was speaking this morning and said this: calls them evil losers. but i have a more accurate one. james mitchell who really came up, coauthored the program says he knows the mind-set of somebody who would do that. and he says here it is. >> there are no innocent bystanders that it's perfectly permissible to target children for lots of reasons. one reason is that parents pay taxes that support the resistance to the spread of islamic domination around the world. another reason he told me is that if you live the children of the infidels alive, all that does is we stalk the ranks of your enemies; right?

and then finally, if you can kill enough children, it will frighten the parents who are likely to resist enough that they will withdrawal and just simply not want to get involved in that. ainsley: aaron, what's your reaction? >> my reaction is, look, i've been around this. i was around this for almost seven years as an american serving the israel defense forces unit. and this is no different than the mind-set of hamas or hezbollah or jihad. and what you have here is almost like an illness. it's such an indoctrination to where they view children as being something that they have to exterminate in order to prevent further budding, which could go against what their ultimate goals are, to spread this extreme version of shari across the world.

this gentleman, i agree with him. unfortunately, we can't go after kids and can't start cutting off the roots of their children to keep them from carrying out acts of terror. and we've seen child suicide bombers in israel. it happened at a israeli checkpoint. we've seen teenagers mortar themselves. it's part of the education system and part of isis's education system and al-qaeda as well. so we don't have the luxury of being able to just decimate this regions and turn it into a big lake. that would be an easy solution. we have to get five steps ahead of this radical -- to the extreme brain washed ideology. the only way to defeat this is to play our own version of fear, and i tell you that's what the terrorist understand. they do understand fear and because they were afraid, they decide to go after the children because they know that that's something that would upset them as well. and that fear is and psychology is a very powerful tool against extremists, and

that's something so that we start looking at and positioning ourselves for. but we need to start with special ops abroad. we've got that game going well. we have to start the defense here in the u.s. guys, and start infiltrating with everything in these crowds and get them on the defense and that's the key. ainsley: aaron, did you hear when the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu was talking about if the terrorist in moon chester was a palestinian, then his family would receive a stipen from the government because they reward terrorists. >> yeah. and then he would receive a kidnapping from my unit -- excuse me. a controlled arrest. yes, i did hear that and israel has a very strict policy, which in the short-term is very effective, which is, look, the family of terrorists in israel receive money. palestinians receive money to

martyr themselves. kids that don't fit into society who are searching for something and are outcasts are the first ones to go volunteer for hamas. hamas also uses terror tactics against their own citizens and say are you with us? well, of course we're with you. great here's a suicide vest. steve: yeah, you're right? >> so these tactics -- these pressure tactics are common amongst the extreme ideology an and the weak are pulled in and families would be rewarded. and in israel, it would destroy a home. if you commit a act of terror, all of your family members will feel that. brian: appreciate it. especially knowing that a lot of people are going to be going to concerts, theaters, and wondering if there's going to be a simultaneously attack. they need to know what security is going to be here. thank you so much for your insight. >> thanks for having me. steve: meanwhile, the security has been incredible in israel. that's where the president is wrapping up a two-day trip. that's also where john roberts is.

he's in jerusalem right now with the very latest. john. >> steve, good morning to you. the president hospitalling back on marine one to tel aviv where he'll get to air force one to rome because he's going to be with the pope. but what happened today tragically reinforcing what the president talked about since he touched back inry awed. the president saying quote we stand in absolute solidarity with the people of the united kingdom. since he touched down here in the middle east, the president has been working to build coalitions against terror and sending the message to muslim and arab nations there's only a swift end to your life and eternal condemnation. you heard when he called the bomber quote an evil loser. we can't glorify these people by calling them monsters. he called upon the muslim nations around the world to

defeat the extremist ideology that fuels terrorism that drives those people and their ideology out of their country. he repeated that again this morning. listen to what the president said. >> i repeat again that we must drive out the terrorists and the extremists from our midsts. obliterate this evil ideology and protect and defend our citizens and people of the world. >> steve, brian, and ainsley, i have to tell you that the president found a new spirit of cooperation, particularly in the arab world because he sees iran differently than president obama did. president obama was trying to negotiate with iran. president trump told the muslim nations and the arab world over the weekend that it represents an threat not only to israel but also to the arab world so there's shared interest there defeating inner, which is a exporter of terrorism. and listen to what the president said this morning at the museum of iran.

trump: isis targets jewish neighborhoods, synagogues, and storefronts. and iran's leaders routinely call for israel's destruction. not with donald j. trump. believe me. >> obviously a tremendous amount of appreciation for that sentiment here at the israel museum. after rome, the president's heading to brussels, belgium for the summit where he will reiterate his call for nato countries to fight against terror and then heading to sicily for the g7 nations in which he will reiterate that as well. this has been a lot about economic, a lot about military deals. but more so than anything, this first foreign trip with the president has really been about combating terrorism, brian, steve, and ainsley. that was the importance of that driven home what happened so tragically in manchester

last night. brian: and the next step is going to be pope and then nato. nato has a much different view of iran. it might not be happy that the president is putting a stark line between iran and the rest of the world. >> i don't really think he cares, brian. don't forget that when the president was talking during the election campaign about nato being obsolete. he said what nato needs to focus on is counterterrorism and as a result of what the president was saying, nato has created a counterterrorism arm. so the nato secretary general appreciates a lot of what this president is saying, particularly in terms of nato nations ponying up their commitments monetarily to nato. so i think he has friends there, despite the fact that people have been very critical of this president for some of what he has been saying about nato. brian: yeah, that's true. i'm sure you're right. he doesn't care. but i'm just saying in the private meetings, he might hear a little counter view. but not saying that will change his view.

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ainsley: well, we have seen how far these terrorists are going to go to kill us, to kill our children. so how far should our president, president trump go to destroy them? here to react to this and to his message this morning, our

panel, we have ryan, national security analyst, and we have former pentagon official michael. thank you, both, for being with us. >> thank you. ainsley: ryan, how do you answer that? we've seen how far they go. what does our president need to go to obliterate their words? >> sure. it was the closest i he might come to a tear down this wall moment. it was a call to action, not a plan to action. we needed to have the islamist ideology and its infrastructure dismantled. i want to hear a plan about how to stop the mosques, the radical funding of those mosques, the funding of those schools. but some of the language was also helpful. when he called the terrorists losers, it's impactful because it's this idea of success for recruitment. ainsley: all right. what does the president's plan need to be then? >> look, i think the president's rector and the symbols has been excellent.

to translate that into policy, i think he needs to, for instance, tell the qatary that if they continue to support terrorism and radical islam, then we'll relocate our military assets from that country that is protecting them. and i think to the palestinian authority, he needs to tell them that if they continue to sponsor, finance, and reward terror, that we're going to reduce our several hundred million dollars of aid. >> i know you're the ceo of the jewish institute for the national security of america. the president was at the holocaust memorial, at the israel museum and also we've seen the prime minister of israel. did he have a strong enough message to the palestinian prime minister after he went into the west bank area and did meet with him? >> i think his message was pretty good publicly, which is that he highlighted this issue

that the palestinian authority is rewarding terror. and now i think privately they need to follow -- the administration needs to follow up with the palestinians and say, look, we're going to support this act in congress. we're going to cut our aid to you if you don't change your behavior and your rhetoric. ainsley: ryan, i know you're teaching classes on this. what would be your lesson so that something like this doesn't happen here? >> it goes back to dismantling the islamic infrastructure, but also don't allow the leader like the palestinian authority lie to you when he says he's creating a culture of peace for the children. it's a lie. it's not a spin of difference of opinion, it is a lie. ainsley: how do you change that ideology, though? >> well, first of all, you can cut off funding to these entities that are brain washing children. we have to look at the polls. just look at the polls. when you look at palestinian opinion, the majority not only desire the destruction of

israel, they believe it is possible. and that's because of the concessions that they get in response to their violence. ainsley: yeah, they're teaching kids at an early age to do this and to be terrorists. but why are we still funding them, ryan? >> political correctness, diplomatic pressure. you have allies that we are dependent upon that will say, well, you have to do this. it comes from this idea that terrorism is a by-product of the israeli palestinian conflict when really it's the reverse. the reason that we have this on going israeli conflict and so many other conflicts is because it is fueled by radical islam and ferocious anti-semitism. remember, even before the state of israel was established, you have jerusalem allying with hitler. so this goes way back, and it's deep, and there has to be a detox with this anti-semitism and radicalism. ainsley: thank you, both, for being with us. we're going to have more on the breaking news this morning.

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you're able to help us out so much yet as the president walked through the scene, all those historic sites in the region. so as the president has wheels up, how would you rate this visit? >> well, i would rate it very, very high. i just hope they had a private conversation with a boss in bethlehem saying, look, you cannot be any longer paying families rewards for their kids engaged in terrorism. one of the major things we can do to reduce the kind of terrorism that we've seen in england is stop legitimateating it, one of our allies that pays hamas to engage in terror attacks. new york city college this week is going to honor and have as its graduation speaker a woman named linda who has embraced terrorists who have killed children and young people. we just cannot continue along

that path. steve: how does that happen? where that kind of behavior comes normal. >> yeah. and i hope every city college, family, and alumni will protest. they shouldn't stop her from speaking, but they should hand out leaflets, describing who she's been associated with, what her attitudes are, she wants to bring sharia law to the united states, and she will not renounce the kinds of terrorism that we see going around the world today. ainsley: two different stories. we have the president there and the timing is impeccable because we have this breaking news story happening in the u. we all thought of you. we see teresa may coming out. what are your thoughts? happened to your area. >> yeah. and it's not the first time. and i think if it was something that teresa may has said that really reflected can how i felt, which is we see these these things happen, the same word gets spoken every time. the thing that really stuck out for me was actually

something the president said, and it was probably the most unusual thing that's been said all day and that's he said the word loser. it's actually not particularly diplomatic. it's different kind of language. but i think it gets to the heart of something because what you see in each of these events is actually an act of terror committed by young muslim man. that's always who it is. and what we have to understand is that there's a culture going on in many parts of the world where people like that are radicalized or self radicalized, precisely because they think they're the opposite of a loser. that this is a way to glory and reward spiritual and sometimes financial. and actually, a big part of this fight is to say, no, it's not right. you are a loser if you do this. you're not some kind of hero. and i think the fight against this isn't just something we're going to win, it's actually a cultural fight.

brian: we have an attack in april, in stockholm, april. st. petersburg april, west bridge minister attack in march. that's just 2017. this is getting so much worse. >> and you hear people try to be sympathetic to the terrorists. oh, they grew up poor. they had no opportunity. that is total nonsense. a lot of these terrorists are well educated, they're wealthy, they've had every opportunity, they've been welcomed to countries like great britain, educated, welcomed to the united states. this is not about poverty. this is not about disenfranchisement. this is a culture and ideology that supports it from the very, very top down. and one of the worst offenders is the palestinian authority that has a statute, giving rewards to the families of terrorists. brian: saddam hussein did that for a long time. >> that's exactly right. the people who carry out these disgusting attacks, they're

the tip of the iceberg. but we have to remember there's an iceberg there. the culture that they go above. and we've got to really call upon people in those communities to do more. brian: and what about the muslim mayor of lobbed? couldn't he go a long way speaking out today, even though it's manchester. >> i'm sure he will be. i don't think you're going to see him not understand how important it is for him personally. steve: and everybody has good things to say generally about him. he's built very good bridges in the christian communities, and i think it helps send a message that being a muslim could make you a person of peace. it's not islam.it is the abuse . i think the president got it exactly right when he spoke in saudi arabia back then. steve: you know, professor dershowitz what is stunning about the attack last night at 10:33 after the ariana grande concert. you know, we've been talking about how there are 8, 9, 10, 11-year-old girls for

the most part in the audience. and just the humanity of this cold-blooded killer targeting children is so unbelievable for us. >> well, and, you know, it's reminiscent of of course i'm a bostonnian for 50 years. those two brothers walking through the marathon area picking a spot where they were kids i knew one of the young woman had her legs damaged very seriously. how a person could do this. walk and look people in the eye, knowing that a minute from now they're going to be dead because you've made an antipersonnel bomb. you know, we've done it in this country too. we've glorified the weathermen. remember what they were doing? they were making antipersonnel bombs. they were using nails to try to kill american soldiers. there can't be any tolerance of terrorism, no matter what the cause. ainsley: you're absolutely right, professor. what about the security in the uk? we -- all of these witnesses were saying at the concert there was no security. whether or not that would have made a difference, we don't know. but to know you can walk into a concert and you don't have

to have your bag checked, especially at this day and age. >> i think it's going to change. what happens, oddly, you see something happen, and then it catches the authorities, points out gaps and security. brian: and we always react. >> and we always react. and i think that's the catchup that happens, and i'm afraid it's one of those things that goes with having an open society, and that's what these people really hate and that's what they're really aiming at. brian: so do you think it's an important symbolism? i'm not saying it's related but there's a raid in yemen of an al-qaeda site on a regular basis. also picking up the pace of isis in syria while still trying to take back mosul. do you think those things pressuring the nucleus of where they're at will help us in the cities where we don't even know where they're at? >> i think we have to make isis pay a heavy price every time they take credit for a terrorist attack. brian: which they did about an hour ago. >> they did. and the price has to be very, very heavy.

and, look, inevitably there are going to be civilian casualties when you attack terrorist groups that purposefully because he had themselves among civilians. and that's always a very heavy cost, but it's a cost that we have to incur because it's their civilians versus our civilians, and we have to put the lives of innocent civilians who are the victims of terrorist attacks very high on the agenda. ainsley: this administration a lot different than the last one, he's meeting with benjamin netanyahu, they're very close friends, they seem to be very connected, and this is not their first meeting since he has become president. but also what he said about iran. iran is not going to make nuclear weapons. what was your reaction to that? >> well, he went off script, and he talked through his heart. now we have to take two more steps. congress has to pass a statute that says we accept as american policy that iran will never, ever be able to develop nuclear weapons. remember, in the deal it says that iran will never under any circumstances seek to develop. then congress has to pass a

statute now authorizing the president to take any action, including military action to prevent iran from becoming a north korea. if we think we have problems with north korea, iran with a nuclear arsenal will be 100 times worse. brian: and they have ten years. all they have to do is abide by this for ten years. >> their delivery system during the ten years. the deal does not prohibit them from developing intercontinental ballistic missiles. ainsley: and we can't go in unless we give them a three-month notice. ridiculous. brian: last night we went to bed with 19 and we woke up this morning at 22. and now we have to report one more. steve: the victim being 8 years old. the first victim was 18 and now we know the other end of the age spectrum, somebody died last night. ainsley: once we find out her name, we will let you know. but we've been looking through social media and if you look up the hashtag manchester, you

can see the faces of these young, cute, cute little girls and their parents looking for them. steve: steve hilton, one of the things we have talked about over the last year or two is the way the open borders at the eu and obviously the united kingdom had a brexit moment, didn't really like that so much. and then something like this happens, how do those square with each other? >> i think it will just confirm in people's minds how important it is for countries to assert the right to control their borders. that's what the uk did. that was a big part part of that brexit vote was all about and in great contrast to what's happening in other parts of europe, particularly germany. wouldn't go so far as to say that that automatic connection. steve: yeah, we don't know. >> but it's absolutely clear that it's vital for countries to say we want to make sure we are in control of who comes into our country. we want to welcome people. we think immigration is generally a good thing, good for our society, good for our economy. but obstacle if we control

it. brian: 3,500 suspected terrorist in the uk and the word is they're being surveilled less and less. it was much higher in 2015. does there need to be more money? you guys pay enough in europe -- you're one of us now. but the british pay enough in taxes. are you going to bolster the security forces even more now to surveil even more terrorists? and 400 have come back from syria over the last two years. >> and the european court prevented great britain from deporting an e mom who was preaching the most violent kind of terrorism and one of the factors that went into brexit is the idea that england does not want to be controlled from far away from bureaucrats telling them how to control their borders and control their terrorism. >> that's exactly right. and teresa may, by the way, when she was secretary supported that really aggressive. she worked trying to get around that ridiculous ruling.

ainsley: we just got word, our producers are telling us that 12 children under the age of 16 are injured. and you have to keep in mind this is a nail bomb which means nails and screws and nuts and bolts. a terrible image actually to think about these girls. brian: and i would ask you this, ainsley, some of them could have been hurt in the stampede. >> and palestinian terrorists known to do. put rat poison on the nails is that if you're injured, it causes biological massive infection and bleeding. ainsley: i mean, that is evil. that is such evil. tell us about the landscape of this area because you know manchester is how far away from london? >> it's not that far. it's 100 miles or so. 150 miles. but it's a very quick train ride away. it's very much a leading economic power in the uk. it's a really vibrant city. brian: manchester city. manchester united. >> exactly. a place i know very well because if you're in politics, you go to manchester all the

time for events and conventions and so on. and everyone enjoys going to manchester. it's really one of those great northern industrial cities that has been revitalized over the years. this plays right in the heart of the place, which is an example of that revitalization. steve: and we had teresa may, the prime minister saying this was the worst attack ever in northern england. all right. steve, thank you very much. ainsley: thank you. steve: all right. straight ahead on this tuesday, rob o'neill on how to stop terrorists willing to kill children. did you know 90% of couples disagree on mattress firmness? fortunately there's a bed where you both get what you want every night. enter sleep number and the semi-annual sale going on now. sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. she likes the bed soft. he's more hardcore. so your sleep goes from good to great to wow! only at a sleep number store. oh, and right now it's our lowest price ever

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now rob o'neill. rob, it's hard to look at that picture. >> it is. it's a brutal reality. i mean, everyone knows how precious children are, except for these people thank they're part of an enemy to their version of sharia law, that they justify killing kids because they're not kids, they're infidels, they're going to grow up to be bad people, so this is totally justified. the person who did it did it for his version of religious reasons and it meant very selfishly that he got to go to paradise. steve: rob, you look at that picture, that's one of the reasons you went in the line of work you did. >> yeah. that's exactly right. that's one of the hardest reasons we went after osama bin laden. because of the children die in these attacks quite a bit, and it is this radical version that needed to be stamped out. and i mean, the candle light diplomacy that we're trying right now is not working. we need to get real about the threat, what it is, and we need to name it and president

trump is doing a good job of naming it, calling them what they are, losers, and we're going to need help me from the world. this isn't a big portion of the world. we do need everybody to help us. steve: and president trump's point in calling them real losers, the fact that they do something like this horrific act, and they like to be called a monster, he says. so i'm not going to do that. i'm going to call them losers because they're losers. >> they're losers. they are. and it's pretty obvious what's going on. this is a suicide bomber who was talked into it by a cleric who told him about this, you know, the great paradise. they embrace death more than they embrace life. it's not a lone wolf. the bomb maker didn't ignite the bomb himself. he's smart and going to use it again. these are people who came back from syria as they tried to squeeze the islamic state out of syria, out of iraq, they're going to start going back to their home countries. we need to be watching. there's a certain type of profiling that goes on with

these men and women because they're in there too, the cubs of the caliphate, this is a big ideology, they all believe in it more than they believe in anything else, and they want to take over the world and destroy it. steve: sure. we don't know at this point who the person is, who was the bomber. and it could be a lone wolf. it could be somebody working with -- >> there's been more people being leaked out there. all kinds of video that's going to be out there. this is a bomb with nails. it smells like diesel to me says homemade explosive ammonium nitrate. somebody made it, somebody blew themself up, and i'm starting to see a pattern. and isis has that claiming responsibility, which they love. and they can do it whether or not it was their person. this is the ideology that they like to spread. steve: but hits just sad that the young people who are doing this stuff, whoever strapped this bomb on think so this is the way. this is how you do it. >> and the scary thing is someone taught him that. steve: yeah, and he believed it. >> i don't think people were born evil. i think people know what they're taught.

so the teaching of this by the bad people, we need the good guys, the good muslims, the moderate muslims to tell us who they are. weed them out. we can't be teaching. like i keep saying too. there are videos online of 5-year-old children cutting the heads off of person. that child is not going to be normal. we're goinwe're not going to kill our way through this. we need some education, we need administer military strength, and we need people the realization of why it's happening. steve: i was talking to my daughter last night, you work in midtown manhattan, and you have to go through time square fast, it happened there last week. and she was going i would love to go to an ariana grande concert but i don't know if i want to go out to eat in a large group of people. >> this is how the terrorists are going to win. this is going to affect the economy, going to affect the votes. how are parents going to vote now with all of this going on?

and i keep getting asked this with my book osama bin laden. aren't you worried about your target? well, guess what? we're all targets. steve: all right. the book is called the operator. rob o'neill, thank you very much. >> thank you, steve, appreciate it. steve: fox news alert right now. we're awaiting president trump. those are live images from the airport at tel aviv. he's about to arrive and depart from rome. we're going to take you there as soon as it happens. but right now, let's go upstairs and find out what has for us coming up in ten minutes on the channel. >> good morning. we will continue to bring live coverage of the president's trip overseas. he goes to rome later today and eventually to meet with the pope. and the deadly exposing in manchester. isis claiming responsibility. and it is a big day here at home, we get the president's proposal and both the house and the senate and a press conference trying to focus away from scandal and on to tax reform and budget. we will speak with house majority leader kevin

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brian: well, here we go. the president of the united states and the wheels go up from the airport as he's about to leave on air force one and head over to the vatican to meet with the pope. what a journey it has been so far. able to spend just about 30 hours in israel, have a chance to meet with the palestinian authority leader and of course back to jerusalem where he had dual speeches with the prime minister and now it's time for the president to leave this historic journey. a few reasons. number one, how he got there fromr from riyadh to tel aviv never been done before. and first trip over, he visits israel. first time a president has

done that. i'm going to bring if in now a very familiar face on fox news. chris, you know him from his great service in benghazi and what he did afterwards and now he has a brand-new book out called the ranger way and, chris, unfortunately, you go to the battle because you want to fight for the country. but the battle has come to our major cities, and we're seeing it again in manchester, england. >> yeah. i wish i could say i was shocked at this. you've been doing this for ten years. you see what terrorists are capable of. they're not going to stop. and now they're targeting -- i shouldn't say now they're targeting. they've always been targeting children and now we're seeing it on a bigger scale and of course in the media, and you're seeing it in a -- at a music concert. the only way to really stop this, and i think president trump's doing the right thing is taking the gloves off. he's using that moab, using the special ops troops on the ground trying to hit the leaders where they need to and putting terror back in the terrorists. i don't know if we're ever going to be able to fully stop something like that you saw in manchester.

but by being stronger, which he is, and utilizing our strengths, which is our special ops community, and the arsenal that we have, i think that we can start to put the terrorists back on the defense back on their heels and create terrorism in their own minds, which is what we need to do. brian: right in terms of security, not a lot of parents going to be sending their kids to a concert tonight. might be going to a hockey game or contest. could this be us? could this be our family? >> that's what terrorism does. it messes with your mind. it creates a lack of safety, which we now see here in the united states, that's what they're doing. what we need to do is physical security. put more security into it. brian: chris, we're going to have you back maybe as early as tomorrow to talk more about your book, and i'll talk to you on the radio about that. we're going to be back to wrap things up as we watch the president pick up stakes and

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