glory. hiding from evil will bring you know dignity. >> martha: that is a story for tonight. good night, everybody. tucker carlson is up next. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." last night, at least 22 innocent people were murdered by a suicide bomber in manchester, england. tonight, president trump commented on the attack during a joint press conference of palestinian president. >> so many young beautiful innocent people living and enjoying their lives murdered by evil losers in life. i will call them from now on losers because that's what they are. there losers. >> tucker: you've seen this before and you know it's going to happen next.

unfortunately, our leaders are going to tell us that acts of terror or just something that happen, just like weather. there's nothing they can do or better yet just pretend it's not happening all around you. the bbc put it this morning, europe is quote getting use to attack like this because they have to move. because they're never going to be able to totally wipe this out. we hear that a lot but consider it for a minute. why is violent terrorism and inevitability in europe now? whether you grow up in northern ireland door italy or the backcountry, it was not a giving and hazard a generation or two. ask someone who is alive then. this is new, summing has changed. what is it? the answer is most people understand but relatively few admit is the demographics change. there are a lot of muslims living in europe now. most of them are indeed decent people as were often assured but it's a presently large number of the mind. check the numbers. in 2006 and, you're up to terrorist murdered more than 50 people in london on the subway bombing, a full 20% of british muslims said they sympathized

with the bombers. younger muslims were even more enthusiastic about what happened, but the killing. in 2007, pew found that at least 27% of young muslims here in america, and france and germany and britain and spain believe that suicide bombings could be justified. in france, that number was about 40%. last year, 29% of muslims said they viewed sharia as a higher law than the civil laws of france. of course, we shouldn't be surprised that radical views are common among western muslims because there even more common in their home nation. in 2014, 47% of bangladeshi muslims said suicide bombings to defend islam were acceptable. a court of egyptians at the same thing, office of turk simulations agreed. in 2009, 78% of pakistani muslims told p with the people that leave it islam should be killed. egypt support for that was 86%, afghanistan 79, bangladesh 44, iraq 42%. these are not little places,

obscure theocracies in remote regions. the sum of the biggest countries in the muslim world and more to the point, they've sent millions to the west. there's an awful lot of research on the subject and all the numbers tell the same story. why are they being ignored? are leaders like to boast to believe in science, they let data and hard evidence drive their policy. they are lying and never more obviously than in this case. they don't want to see the numbers. they actively suppress them. if you really cared about america, he wouldn't wanted to become europe. dangerous, divided, unstable. you wouldn't report them massive muslim minority in your country because it made you feel open-minded and virtuous in the for the best. that's a faith-based approach and it's nuts. we know exactly what will happen if we do that because were watching us live on television for manchester right now. if you really cared about the country you lead, figure out how to make sure that every person of any religion enthusiastically shared your most cherished

value, tolerance, pluralism, free-speech, equality under the law just for starters. tell them not to litter when they're here too. we did the opposite. our leaders worship multiculturalism so we encourage immigrants to reject our culture in favor of their own because all cultures are equal. except they're not all equal as we are reminded last night with the murder of children in an arena in manchester. defend what you believe we will lose it. that's the message of manchester just as it will also the basic lesson of all of history. what if you don't believe in anything at all? are leaders don't. that's why they can't defend us. a former islamic extremist and thought a lot about this, he joins us tonight. things a lot for coming on. with the response from the west that wants to remain a pluralist, certainly doesn't want to ban people based on their religion or their country. most people don't want to do that but they also don't want to have unstable chaotic societies. what did they do? >> currently am and you're

correct, there's a meme going around this is the new normal, that we must come to terms with us and we must carry on as normal, act, behave calm, and stand united. that's all well and good but there's a role to solidarity, it's absolutely essential is so did not show solidarity to the victims of these horrific attacks. but what kind of world is that in which i have to accept the slaughter of my children, of youth at a concert is normal and that's just nothing i can do about it? what kind of world do you want to live in where we just accept that as a status quote and an any other world that would be called apathy and appeasement. we should never accept that as normal. and that leads to another meme that's going around that these are somehow lone wolves which piques your introduction. these aren't what lone. this is a myth, this idea of lone wolves. research back to facts and study, research found that up to 80% of jihadist attacks and the attackers are connected to

networks, ideologies, groups and others, they are almost never alone but this myth of the fact that they are alone actors serves three purposes mainly. one is that it allows security services when they commit mistakes to say there is nothing we could do about it anyway. we couldn't stop them or protected them. it allows politicians to say there's nothing we can do about it and thereby retreats a politically correct standard. and third, it allows most importantly our communities to shirk responsibility because of the truces were in the midst of europe of the jihadist insurgency were people who are like me and others and live among us have become radicalized and it isn't isis that radicalize them. isis plucked the low-hanging fruit. they've been radicalized for decades because of this ideology that's been spreading. >> tucker: 's what we do about it? what authorities do about it? again, how do you maintain a

liberal in the best sense, free society when you're actually living among people who want to kill you? how do you stop that? >> if we understand it in this way that there is an ideology that's been recruiting for decades, and isis simply plucked the low-hanging fruit, and the first thing we need to do is if i was there during the u.s. civil rights crisis, back when segregation was still right, he would call me an apologist if i didn't get involved to fight segregation, racial segregation. you don't have to be muslim to challenge these extremism. muslims and non-muslims all have to stand together to challenge the extremism this is it's our responsibility to challenge racism, homophobia, anti-semitism and other ills of society. this is a full on society campaigns that we assert and protect our liberal values against these theocratic values, and that genuinely requires action from government, but more

importantly from communities. >> tucker: people have to stop being embarrassed and stand up and enlighten them to values our society is based on. it doesn't seem hard but it is hard and you are leading the fight for it and i appreciate you coming on today to talk to her audience. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: british police aren't investigated in a text that occurred last night in manchester but is not their only priority tonight. they're also keeping an eye out for crime sink on the internet. those are unproved thoughts that people might express, including those from dailymail.com colonists katie hopkins. which we did after the attacks this. "western men, these are your wives, your daughters, your sons. stand up, rise up, demand action. do not carry on as normal. a coward." another twitter user reported her to the police in great britain and the police confirmed they were investigating. also investigated for since deleted tweet in which she said she missed wrote saying that british needed a final solution for terrorism. she rewarded that later. katie hopkins joins us today.

terrorist attack in an arena in manchester and killed children and you're under investigation. how does that work exactly? >> i really don't know anymore here in the u.k. what i can say is there a certain thoughts or just simply not allowed to have. so for me to say that this is no good anymore, it's not good enough even to say that we can carry on as normal, i demand up action. among people to use their anger to same we need to do something to stop this. we need to be reporting these people, support the people that are hiding them, and get amongst us because this is our little girls, our 8-year-olds. we need to be able to talk like that clearly certain things i tweet, i absolutely accept, use the word final solution in a tweet and i would not in any way want to use that term and the inference people lay on that. what i meant was we need a long lasting solution, a resolution to this.

it's 24 hours now since i woke up to the news of what has gone on and i'm just feeling what were missing as that real feeling of emotion connecting with the fact this is our little girl, these are our children. this could be our children next. we just have the threat level raised a critical which is the maximum level. military are coming into our streets which is a great thing, but i always wondered is how did we go from saying we are strong, we stand united, we are not cowards, to tanks arriving on our street. we do have a problem, we did have a problem in our little girls have been slaughtered in the worst possible way with nails and nuts and bolts and homemade bomb. if my children breakfast this morning said i'd rather be shot then caught in a bond that's made of ball bearings. what conversation are we having here in 21st century britain where children are growing up with terror being normal and a

man planting a bomb filled with nuts and bolts when they're out having fun, that's normal in britain, and we brought that war into our country, we brought that war onto our pavements, onto our streets and i don't hear anybody, no politician standing up and saying i am sorry, we were wrong, we are going to change what we have done. islamic extremism cannot go on. >> tucker: they're investigating you for your tweets in the country that gave the rest of us. freedom of speech. this is very quickly a philosophical question but as the government that is demonstrably unwilling to defend its own children and they are despite the slogans in the tanks, is that a legitimate government? what's the point of having a government if they will protect your children? >> absolutely, it seems to me that the establishment and now on the side of anything that represents diversity or indeed muslim supporting islam, we have to say the greater manchester

head of police came out this evening and said we will not tolerate hate against the muslim community. so many of us unaware saying it's okay, we will tolerate our little 8-year-old girls being slaughtered as they leave a concert, but we won't tolerate hate speech. that seems to be where were at in the u.k. tonight. >> tucker: and around the world. this is exactly why there are political revolutions, very uncomfortable messy ones taking place throughout the west. because of this reason. thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. the media loves covering russia and hate covering manchester and events like it. up next, will explain why those related phenomena and how the west may have something to gain from cooperating with, hold your breath now, russia against islamic extremism. here to talk about its botched coverage last night that really defines parity. stay tuned. ♪

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the >> the cost of the president's ties to russia cannot be our national security and of the story is true, i'm afraid that's the price we may pay. >> i really do believe that much of what you saw coming out of trump's mouth was a play from pews playbook. >> tucker: what are these have in common? they may appear wholly unrelated. manchester attacks last night in russia, but they are actually connected. presses fearmongering about russia and distaste for honestly covering islamic terror are related to one another because if he thought about it for even a second and up perley lots of them haven't, you may realize they may have something to gain from cooperating with russia and checking radical islam. the russians are not likely to become trusted allies ever. russia like pretty much every other country except for hours looks out for its own interests first and sometimes those interests are directly opposed to our interests. that will never change. but on this one matter, radical

islam, russia has both a shared interest and ample expertise on the subject. got a huge muslim minority amounting to about 10% of the population. that's higher than any western european nation. had to deal with an islamist insurgency as well as multiple terror attacks that killed hundreds and of course, they've intervened in syria. not just to protect president assad, those are probably goals to but also to fight as llamas, which are actively doing like the russians are not. they are doing that. in other words, unless one final question, russia is aligned with us. to think that would be obvious just as it was obvious to franklin roosevelt 80 years ago to make common cause with joseph stalin and the fight against the and it works. but no. it's 1953 all over again with the democratic party impugning the character of anyone who dares to note the obvious. i know this is happened to me, agent of russia that i am. everyone enjoys a good witch hunt from time to time but this one appears to be hurting our national security. a former obama campaign foreign

policy advisor. he once worked for the state department and i know that he is going to agree with me on this. let mr. with the obvious question prayed which is a bigger threat to the u.s. isis or russia q mexico both are huge threat. >> which is bigger? >> i think isis is a more immediate threat absolutely. but russia has a much stronger military. russia can hurt us and hurt u.s. interest all over the world. we have to worry about both. >> tucker: we don't have the graphic, i'm just going here with the facts as they are. we have on the one side, isis islamic terror, al qaeda over the past 15 years, thousands of americans have lost their lives, many thousands to those forces. russia has killed zero americans. so it's really not even in the same universe actually, the threat we face from islamic terror and the threat we face in russia. one is theoretical, the one is real and present, so why are we not seeing that? >> first of all, you can't evaluate the threat just based on how many american lives have been lost. russia is a threat to democracy.

it's a threat to our way of life. look at what russia has done in ukraine, annexing crime area. mr. new canaan, could a lot of people in ukraine. ukraine wanted to be part of the west pretty want to be a democracy, wanted to join europe, it wanted to be our ally. russia has been threatening democracy for a long time. look at the cold war. >> tucker: before we jump back 26 years, let me just get to the examples that you just listed. is a there threat to our way of life, to democracy and i feel for the akkadians, i feel for the crimean, anyone who's national's thwarted. i was the annexation of crimea or the conflict of ukraine a direct threat to national security? >> because if russia is allowed to annex ukraine, it will annex another country next. it will and x the baltic sea. >> tucker: how will that affect american national security can mexico do not believe that there are countries like russia desire to undermine

democracy all over the world, particularly in europe. >> tucker: i think there are members of congress. >> its undermining democratic efforts in countries like ukraine. in the baltic sea. >> tucker: i'm asking you a simple question, is to be simple answers if you would. how is russia's expansions tendencies which are shared by a lot of countries around the world. that's a story of the world, of history. how does russia's behavior in eastern and central europe threaten america's critical national security interests or america's democracy? >> because one thing that americans always stood for his freedom and spreading democracy around the world. and the biggest foe of freedom and the spread of democracy is russia, and we see that now and lots of different places where russia is an actor, particularly in eastern europe where they've designed it on re-creating a russian empire, on re-creating colony type states that it had when it was the ussr. >> tucker: you didn't answer the question i asked.

he basically said russia's behavior offends our values as americans. i would agree with that completely. that's not the criteria upon which we make war decisions. we go to war, we are enemies with someone when their behavior threatens our national security, someone you said russia did some going to ask you one final time. how does their behavior threaten our national security or our democracy itself as is often the claim? i don't understand that. >> let's take syria for instance. >> tucker: given up on crimea. >> we talked about that a lot. i could talk about all our if you want. but take syria. russia intervened in syria september 2015. after the obama administration failed to act and failed to punish syria for crossing the red line, that was a mistake. when russia intervened in september, it said it was intervening to fight isis. when week after its military and air strikes, state department said more than 90% of those air strikes were against u.s. backed forces in syria, not against isis.

that's how. >> tucker: because we backed a series of islamist rebel groups with ties to al qaeda and isis which we currently do which is insane and because russian bombing may have heard some of those islamist, that's a threat to our national security? we did have a ton of time left but connect the dots for me if you wed. >> limit connect the dots for you. we are trying to stabilize syria. we need to stabilize syria. more than 400,000 people have been killed in syria. russia is not trying to stabilize syria. russia is popping up this assad regime which is fueling isis. isis was born out of the crisis in syria, the fact that no one was supporting the moderates work believing assad and the sunni population turned isis. that's what created isis. isis is a convenient foe for the russians. because isis is helping fight the battle that russia wants fought. you think russia cares that there is an attack in

manchester? that helps russia. >> tucker: a kind of remember syria when it was stable and guess who ran it? the assad family ran it. so it's hard to look me in the face and say supporting a bunch of people, someone who may be goodhearted, some who may be lunatics is making the country more stable than what was eight years ago when it was run by a dictator who hated american. a bad guy. but it was stable and now it's not. so call me stupid but that seems like the facts. >> so you agree with president obama that we should've not done anything in syria because your member, the revolution that started in syria, the u.s. didn't start that revolution. that was a revolution that started on its own and it happened and there were forces that went against assad and eventually when we didn't do anything, russia went in. now we have a destabilized country that helps create isis. we have a humanitarian disaster that caused refugees to flee to europe and to the u.s., more than 400,000 people killed.

>> tucker: i've lost any confidence i ever had and the ability of intellectuals in washington to make the world stable. they've made it less stable and i'm really worried about their judgment. >> tucker: i want russia to do that? >> tucker: i'm not saying that at all. >> i just don't think things at face value anymore. thank you. british prime minister tresa mae has one bed they attack last night could attacks coming up soon. is there anything we can learn from this and how can the u.s. avoid becoming a victim? the expert next. expedia. everything in one place, so you can travel the world better.

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>> it is now concluded on the basis of today's investigations with the threat level should be increased for the time being from severe to critical. this means that their assessment is not only an attack remains highly likely but there is a further attack may be an event. >> tucker: that was prime minister teresa may warning that manchester may be the first of several attacks targeting the u.k. morning shows that it remains at a presently constant threat, one that he called on islamic nations rooting out in his recent trip to the saudi kingdom. >> a better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and drive out the extremists. drive them out. drive them out.

other places of worship. drive them out out of your communities. drive them out of your holy land. and drive them out of this eart earth. >> tucker: so hollis can the u.s. hoped to prevent future manchester's, whether any warning signs of the rest of us miss? a former white house national security council director, former member of israel's counterterrorism unit. they both join us tonight. you just wrote this book which i read and really enjoyed called warnings in which you say that for almost every disaster that face our society, there were people who called it, from the financial class to the rise of isis and the rest of us ignore them. where there warnings that we missed for what's happening in europe right now? >> as you said, every disaster i can think of in my lifetime, a person who said very clearly, this is going to happen, pay attention to me. there was a very clear person warning about the rise of isis, he happened to be a u.s.

ambassador to syria. he was saying there's a vacuum is going to be filled, lo and behold, here's isis. so you have little girls dying in london because of what happened four years ago. sometimes we don't listen to that warner, the person who is trying to tell you about something dramatic you need to understand. you pay a cost for a long, long time. that's what we're seeing right now. >> tucker: we certainly do. aaron, what exactly are the steps that we take, the actual steps as western nations to prevent what looks like is going to happen, and endless cycle of the stuff, how do you stop it? >> my experience coming from israel is that you have to not take a soft approach to protecting soft targets. soft targets are nongovernment, heavily protected installations. an american artist performing with one of our allies who been outworn with us pardoning against al qaeda in the last 15 years. so did the layering needs to be

there, and what i mean by that is multiple layers of meaning it would take a multi-failure event in order for the terrorists to reach their target and that means that we deploy a three-part system in israel and it works. this was in place and what i mean by that is the first one is deterrent, and that is having enough arms presence, and of checkpoints far enough away from the venue to the detection phase which is closed officers and checking bags. with terrorism, it's all about the crowds. their goal to kill the most amount of people in the shortest period of time. the trying of to counter terror for these operations is that the denial, so it's almost like where was the security at this concert, when he looked at it, all these people congregating at the end of a show, that's what security lacks. that's when you have to dial it up, soon to take a no b.s. look at exactly where these crowds are going to be in relation to this event at any given point

and if we don't do that here, just like the gentleman just said, four years ago, the warning signs were put out. were going to see this here. so every one of these massive event stays to be taken seriously. because they are. it's hard to play some with target little girls. it's so beyond the range of what it even think of. so the obvious question is are leaders in the west both in europe and here aware of the current risk, you seem massive demographic change in europe in the past two years, massive, a lot of people coming in who according to surveys may be sympathetic to some of the attitudes that produce the manchester terror bombing. are the leaders in western europe aware of that? >> as it gets pretty clear. within a real debate inside of how we ought to deal with the rising immigrant numbers and the people who in some instances are the families of where the terrorists themselves. i'll leave that to the voters and the politicians. but the one thing that's interesting here, we spent some times looking ought isis,

watching their propaganda trying to learn about them is what we've seen as it started to lose territory in iraq and syria as they've sent out more and more fervent messages to the people around the world who may be recruited by them saying please go off and take terrorist attacks of your own. so isis doesn't just become a landlord who owns us fake thing and syria, they become what i call an idea of mass instruction, getting out there radicalizing and getting people to do their bidding. and it's very likely we will see here, and i think that's what we seen in the attacks in the attacks across ribs and maybe attempted attacks in united states. >> tucker: when they get weaker the battlefield, they get more crazy and dangerous. that's the basic principle. thanks a lot to both of you. i appreciate it. the american and media embarrass itself with its glacial response of the in manchester last night, and casey didn't notice. joe conch will be here to explain why that happened and why some channels felt russia mattered more than blood in the streets in the united kingdom.

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those channels. when the other media did start covering up, things were necessarily better over at cnn, analyst paul cruickshank took time to speculate the suicide bombing could have been a false flag by right-wingers of course. apparently so committed to making islam work but they were willing to kill them subs to do it. that's commitment but the right, they're committed. over at the bbc, commented that manchester was its present target because manchester did not vote in favor of bricks it. the account would be more understandable if the city had voted for it. very impressive. where is about the media for the hill and he joins us tonight. did you watch it last night? what did you >> have a fortress of solitude down my basement that allows me to watch for tvs at once. you can see pictures of it. i'm able to watch. it's more for fantasy football but also for my job as well. and if there are some numbers around this that are just stunning. 105 minutes during the 7:00 p.m. hour according to an mrc study was spent on trump and russia on

cnn and msnbc. just 50 minutes on the attack grotesque as you said in the city of the western ally where women and children, young girls going to a concert or killed. any community access producer manager would know in that situation that once the story broke at 648, it is full. there is no other story to cover. but this just shows you that it's media malfeasance marinated in myopia, alliteration aside, this is what happens now when you're so locked into one story that you miss a story like this where everything should've gone away and the should've been the only thing that was covered. >> tucker: you know i've been doing this a long time. you've been covering a long time. you know exactly what happened. their formula is working. their viewers think that donald trump is a marionette controlled by vladimir putin. they think this because they're being told that by the anchors

over there spinning this incredibly complex and insane conspiracy theories and in good numbers by doing that. so even terror attacks will get them off it because they're completely addicted to the drug of ratings. that's what it is. >> is not only what journalism looks like in 2017 tucker, it's what it sounds like. and more important, it's what it smells like and it sticks to your boots. i agree with you that it's good for business but if you look at the numbers last night, a 9:00 for instance, fox, shepard smith nearly doubled rachel maddow in what's called the key demographic, that advertisers covet most. so people are they want their news. every member cnn when i was growing up, it was the only game in town. fox and msnbc didn't come around until 1996 and i forget who said it but somebody compared it to a spare tire that you could always count on it to be there when you needed it at last night, i couldn't find my spare tire prayed i cannot believe that i kept seeing brady bunch panels

on donald trump in russia when they should've been covering the story and it just goes back to cnn and recent studies lately just shows you just how locked-in they are on this topic. may 12, another mrc study. 96 guests on that day were anti-trump, just seven pro trump is a 13-1 ratio. that's incredible. >> tucker: there's other news. if your news channel, you should be bringing the news. as all of about donald trump. i was talking to a friend of mine is actually not particularly pro trump. i think it would be against trump at his watch and he saying there's nothing you could that they wouldn't believe about trump. to think if you went on to another channel and said i have evidence that trump drinks human blood, just a shot glass of it every morning when he wakes up. you think anyone would say no, show me the evidence. of course it does. >> the narrative gets fueled by anonymous sources being used in every store that we'd seen from

"the new york times" and "washington post" and "the new york times" is something called a style guide and in it, one rule that supposed to be used is that anonymity should be the last resort. and now it's become the first resort and that's what's fueling all the stores because not a matter of being accurate, the matter being first in a matter of being more of quantity than quality and that's what journalism is in 2017 unfortunately. it's good for business but bad for integrity. just when it's bad. i have a lot of friends at all these places, nice people. i'll never believe anything they say ever again ever about anything because they're liars. and it's sad. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: the attack in manchester raises a lot of big questions about terrorism and the press and what president trump ought to do in response. how does it all tie together? whenever we have that question, there's one man recall. he is brit hume and he joins us in a minute for the big picture. at bp's cooper river plant, employees take safety personally -

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>> tucker: we've approached last night's attack in manchester from a lot of direction tonight. we looked at what it says about the press, about islam in the west and about our relationship with russia, but there is a big picture here which really happened in the past 24 hours and what is it mean for the trump administration? how they handled it? brit hume as her senior political analyst here at fox and he joins us now with that. so the presidents foreign trip punctuated by this terror attack, what does that mean? >> two things, to some extent it clips is the trip in terms of news coverage and the president needed some sustained reasonably favorable news coverage was she was certainly getting. on the other hand, it kind of reinforces his message, doesn't it? he presides basically just 50 nation summit of 15 muslim

nations summit and delivers a stern message about the need to join together to fight terror and we have this hideous attack. the kind of indicates his emphasis on that subject and to that extent, it helps them. were only beginning pretty made a couple of comments he called terrorists rulers and that's perfectly fine. i don't think that means much. but going forward now, will we will see from him, how he turns his events into a way to further his agenda. and that remains to be seen. >> tucker: one thing to unite the country potentially as an external threat and there's no external threat more horrible and more easy to explain than isis, do you think this is going to be a theme of the next year? >> we've seen the succession of these attacks overseas and while they have impact particularly, this one was particularly hideous because of the children. so utterly barbaric to amount this kind of attack. but they tend to blow over.

in fact, in this new cycle in which we are living these days, nearly everything seems to blow over. unless you have a news media that is absolutely determined to keep it alive. i keep thinking that in recent days in the news coverage of the trump administration, the whole russia thing, that guy mike flynn, they better get him to resign. oh, wait. >> tucker: [laughs] >> the coverage of this event, it'll peter out over time. from ken solve it up and will see what it does. >> tucker: the risk obviously is the trumpet ministry should will find it embroiled in some sort of foreign conflict. he ran against that but presidents historically have a lot of trouble avoiding that. the thing that's a potential risk? >> we are involved with the foreign conflict already. we're involved in a struggle to eradicate isis to name one. other terror operations around the world that we are involved in trying to shut down. i think it attends to be relatively low level warfare

because not a conventional wisdom asymmetrical kind of a conflict between this giant superpower with all its munitions in all its men and women under arms and these bands of terrorists, so it requires a different kind of fight and it doesn't excite quite the passions that worn a rock for example does. or some kind of conflict with russia would obviously excite them. i think he did run against that. on the other hand, we had for so many years of practice of a brand of diplomacy which was diplomacy not really backed up by the threat of force. it has been a hallmark of american foreign policy since world war ii. exactly right. it was by a large effective. and we have sort of the theoretical threat of force has been on the table for some years now but nobody really believed it and of course we had an astonishing event when the president obama drew the line in syria and then turn the whole case over to russia.

and obviously those days are gone. i think the public and administration would do anything like that. so we'll see what comes of that. but very serious issues here. can we really mount and prime a successful way to really eradicate this threat? it's not clear that anybody knows quite how to do that. of course, united the muslim world would be very helpful. we also have this very severe threat from north korea which is growing, which has been allowed to fester all these years to the point where president obama who said and did very little about it to the incoming president trump says by the way, you've got a real stinker i'm about to hand you and it's the worst threat you're going to face. he's got that to contend with as well, whether all of this or any of this could be done remains to be seen. >> tucker: thanks a lot for joining us. we'll be right back. break through your allergies.

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bathroom walls and a facility with the u.s. government has hundreds of illegal immigrant children arriving from central america. you would think committing criminal behavior would certainly be the kind of thing that would ensure your speedy deportation but if you thought that, you'd be wrong. according to documents released today, personnel at the center identified 18 juveniles as likely members of ms-13 gangs. many openly admitted it. an arrival from el salvador self admitted to being a gang member. he stated he was involved in multiple robberies, assaults, and drug dealings. he sold crack cocaine and marijuana, attacked people with knives. and would continue his gang affiliation when he reached his family. it pretty, right? surely he was returned back to

el salvador? he was placed in a holding cell while they tried to find a home for him here in the united states. eight suspected gang members from el salvador were transferred to the children's village, in new york city. maybe those are connected. three other suspected gang members present to oklahoma. to go to virginia. to these people ever get deported? we're still trying to find that out because the previous administration didn't track it. we will tell you as soon as we do. in case this isn't obvious, to import young men into our cities who we know were likely dangerous criminals. no vote was held on this. you may have noticed your country is changing fast and probably not for the better. there are a lot of reasons for that but this is definitely one of them.

that's it for us tonight. we would back here at 8:00 tomorrow night on the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. "the five" it's next. we will see you tomorrow. >> dana: hello, everyone. i am dana perino. along with kimberly guilfoyle, greg gutfeld, jesse watters and juan williams. this is "the five." we began out of manchester, england. last night a suicide bomber detonated himself and killed 22, injuring over 50 during an ariana grande concert. >> so many young, beautiful innocent people living and enjoying their lives, murdered by evil losers in life. i won't call the