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unafraid, but they are never the victims. how easy to be unafraid when one is protected from the line of fire. the people have no such protections. tune in every night at 8:00 for the show that is a sworn enemy of line come, pomposity, and groupthink. "the five" is next. >> kimberly: hello, i am kimberly guilfoyle. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." new video tonight emerging of the vicious killer who blew himself up and murdered 22 and wounded dozens more monday night in manchester, england. a neighbor shot this footage of salmon aberdeen last july. this video coming out of the british government, outrage and blame towards america for leaks in the investigation. furthermore, john roberts. live from italy where the
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president is tonight. john. >> the plague of u.s. agencies took a troubling new turn where the police in the u.k. says it will stop sharing intelligence and evidence with their u.s. counterparts because of the plague of leaks that have been coming out here. about the manchester bombing. they were infuriated when the name of the bomber was released in the united states before they were ready to release it. then the fact that these photographs of bomb evidence showed up in "the new york times," it basically hit the roof. theresa may came to nato today. she was going to speak with president trump about the intelligence sharing. listen here. >> our partnership is built on trust. knowing that intelligence can be shared confidently. and i will be making clear to president trump today that the intelligence shared between law enforcement agencies must remain
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secure. >> for his part, the president really was complaining about this for a long time releasing a statement saying the leaks of sensitive information pose a grave threat to our national security. i'm asking the department of justice to launch a complete review of this matter and if appropriate, the culprits should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. what he was addressing at the nato summit earlier today, it really appealed to the other 27 membered nations of the alliance to throw in more on the issue of terrorism and they have in the past. to become full partners in going after isis and the terrorism it inspires. >> all people who cherish life must unite in finding and removing these killers and extremists. and yes, losers. they are losers.
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wherever they exist in our societies, we must drive them out and never, ever let them back in. >> it nato is taking more steps in terms of counterterrorism. there creating a counterterrorism unit. they were very clear and communicated today that they are not at the point where they would engage in military action as an alliance or may be individual membered nations against isis. the president would like to see them do that. rex tillerson, en route from israel to italy yesterday or the day before -- it's getting a little hazy now -- says they think they will probably move in that direction but right now they are in observation. >> kimberly: okay, dana, where do we stand? >> dana: it's dangerous if you have an investigation ongoing and reveal evidence to early. for example, some of the photographs that were put
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forward included pictures of a bolt that was used. you could conceivably trace that back. people could cover their tracks if they think they are about to get made because of the investigation. that said, it is possible that you could go through an investigation like this and find out that the leak was not necessarily meant to hurt president trump or to hurt the u.k. investigation. this information was out there and available and there could've been mixed communication between the americans and the u.k. we have to remember that leakers are sometimes glamorized. that would include somebody like ed snowden. he becomes extremely famous and is praised from certain quarters all over the world. living the high life. even though he has to live in russia. [laughter] >> dana: he's with his girlfriend and gets all this
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attention. i think leakers like ed snowden, not holding them into account needs to others thinking they can get away with that and not pay a consequence. >> kimberly: greg, where do we go from here in terms of our relationship, the u.k. is obviously upset and concerned about these leaks. this puts the u.s. a little bit on its heels but it could be an advantage to president trump if it played out right. >> greg: i just came up with this phrase, loose links sink ships. you need to keep england happy. it's basically our spouse in this world. the closest relationship we hav have. is this a big deal and why? from an intelligent standpoint, i'm not sure, it was two days later. the stuff was out there. from a respect standpoint, it's
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a big deal. there's always a conflict here. america is the big fish. countries bristle when we don't do not observe their boundaries. we don't have to throw it in their face that we are the biggest country in the world. they don't want to be the robin to the batman even though they are the robin to our batman. countries should also worry a little less about the information leaked after an attack and about the acting on the information. i would be more outraged for what happens before. >> kimberly: great point. be more upset about what you missed the on the aftermath and saying oh, we are upset now because you are giving information up. jesse, what we do to mend this relationship? obviously the u.k. is upset. we know we have a leaking problem. now this gives the president a platform to say listen, we will get to the bottom of this. whoever is behind it will have to be prosecuted. enough is enough. >> jesse: .
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dema displays right to the president's hand, why the leakers have now overplayed their hand. it feeds into his mantra about these leaks. and the enemy from within. it's one thing for a leaker to leak something that embarrasses the president or setup and obstruction of justice charge against the present demonic president. but to leak something that damages our alliance or embarrasses an ally or destroys the trust of an ally or potentially jeopardizes our national security? present obama -- >> kimberly: do they want the president to get the blame? >> jesse: yeah, it doesn't make the united states look trustworthy. someone has an agenda. it is either the holdover democrats that are trying to destroy the trump presidency from within. it's either bureaucrats or republicans in there that never
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like president trump that are trying to wage political warfare against him or is just fake news stuff. a lot of anonymous sources out there. who's telling these reporters these things? are there actual officials saying these things? >> kimberly: it seems credible if the u.k. is upset about it. >> jesse: in the broad scheme of things, it comes out of the middle of nowhere. they probably have to initiate some sort of task force. >> kimberly: it's on this presidents watch. that's why he is upset and justifiably, the u.k. is upset. it doesn't look good for the united states, period. >> juan: i agree. i think this leak-a-palooza -- that's what i've been calling it, since trump's presidency targeted demonic started. they said we are not going to
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look at the city. you have to do with the leakers. at the end of the day, all of these leakers report to one person. donald j. trump. the head of this government. for 130 out some days, we've been talking about getting the leakers. guess what? they are still leaking. >> jesse: when the government is so big it, it's hard to find these guys. >> dana: however it got out, i don't think it was necessarily intended to specifically hurt president trump. maybe they will find it's the same person. our relationship is so good. the president was able today to have face-to-face diplomacy and say sorry. i will try to fix this and by 6:00 tonight when bret baier was doing special report, he had breaking news, just found out the brats demonic brits have now said we will start demonic start sharing intelligence again. if you got in a fight with her husband or wife, six hours later, if you have a good enough relationship -- you can put it behind.
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>> greg: a sulk. >> richard: you never let the sun go down on your anger. >> greg: very good point. >> kimberly: good advice. >> greg: it falls under the umbrella of these other leaks. leaks never go away because humans can't shut up. they always use information and gossip as tools to bond. an officer might go to the press because it creates an alliance. this is why it is so hard in every business, including our own. we can't control what's being said. no one can. a different path and laying down these other ones. the relationship, how to keep the relationship strong. if you been together a long time, the seven year itch and all that other stuff. >> jesse: there is a similarity here. a lot of these leaks have created problems with the
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allies. look at the transcripts. australia. mexico. israel. that's a common denominator. >> greg: you ruined my point. >> richard: which is why donald trump has to get to the bottom of all of it. he is the art of the deal, this amazing businessman. walk in there, the ceo of the company. ask the problem. >> kimberly: it's not an exact replica in terms of the model of the private sector. >> richard: that's what he ran on, kim. >> kimberly: people that have been appointed positions, look at the va. the problem is, he is stuck with that. they are there. he kind of can't touch them. that's a problem. we have people information, lack of veracity. not even a goal objective here. what do you do? he is now the guy who is on the watch. >> richard: you have nobody in your white house who has ever worked in the white house
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before. >> kimberly: otherwise it will continue to happen. >> jesse: the minute trump starts firing the leakers, you're going to call them fight back whistleblowers. >> richard: i just think we should get to the bottom of it. >> jesse: we got this. >> kimberly: coming up, a congressional candidate allegedly body slams a reporter in montana and now people are blaming trump for it. we will tell you about this outrageous situation straight outrageous situation straight ahead. dry mouth can affect how your mouth feels and how you feel. discover act dry mouth, specially formulated
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but 23 of the 28 membered nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they are supposed to be paying for their defense. this is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the united states. 2% is the bare minimum for confronting today's very real and very vicious threats. >> dana: take a look at how some of the media reacted to that. it's because the president is lecturing the nato allies. with very angry and it became clear during the course of the school thing. >> publicly breeding fellow members for not living up to their defense spending commitment. they also alluded to allies who own massive amounts of money from past years. which seems to echo the previous misunderstanding that this is all about back dues. >> president trump in brussels delivering a public shaming.
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>> this was his debut at nato. they were really angry. >> dana: what do you make of that, greg? >> greg: they should all shut up. europeans are so much more superior to these roughneck americans. they are sophisticated. they drink tea. and espresso. by the way, trump is doing what he supposed to do. he is a sales man. you start with an extreme position and ask for the moon and you get something in return. he asked the question. he disrupts, creates a debate. at the end of all this, they end up shaking hands and maybe he gets the ball moved closer to u us. >> dana: kimberly, he's actually been able to get many countries to agree that they will pledge. there could've been a little more criticism in private and
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more praise in public. >> kimberly: ultimately we are about the objective and achieving the goal at the end. this is something he had to call them out on. this is awkward, we better make sure to save face. it's a little bit of a brash style but it is producing results. by the way, why don't people pay up? we are expected to pay rent in apartments and pay for the gas we put in our car. if they want military protection as the benefit of working with the united states, they need to pay the bill. right? that makes sense to me. it really does. you can't sit there and complain and whine about stuff when you are not even paying your dues. this would really bug me in my flamingo class. >> dana: there was even charles krauthammer talking about how he didn't say the words in article five, an attack on one is an attack on all. sean spicer said well that's
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what the whole event was about. why do we even need to say that? is that nick picking? >> jesse: it could be. it's not something you are supposed to say as you address nato? and make the allies feel a little bit? maybe he should have said that. i think it's understood. i think it's important for nato to start brushing up. we had nato deployed in afghanistan for a little while. there were problems communicating, different rules of engagement. air to air communication issues. some countries weren't even getting off into the air because they didn't want to do certain air raids. >> kimberly: some didn't have uniforms. >> jesse: some didn't have the right equipment. it's clear that the president is making these nato allies take ownership and its stakeholders in own national defense. >> dana: some of those countries lost a lot more soldiers than we did.
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>> richard: nato was created because the united states wanted to counterbalance ussr. we created nato and because we are the creators of this thing, we have a responsibility to make payment. on the campaign trail, he said he wanted to get rid of it. it's awful, stupid. now he's like i'm okay with it but this is about diplomacy. diplomacy is not the "celebrity apprentice." it requires you to be behind the scenes, making deals, projecting posture in public. there was not that. >> jesse: now these nations -- >> richard: that was not effective, it was embarrassing. it made america look bad. before it made america look ineffective and strong. >> richard: first of all, the president flip-flopped on the position. >> greg: so he could bring them to the middle. that is what a salesman does, richard. >> richard: this is diplomacy. not a new york reality show.
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war, poverty -- in this new world that we live in, we can't isolate ourselves or hide behind the wall. >> jesse: he's back, k.g.! he's back. have you had enough or not? >> kimberly: roll it again, please. of course he's going to say that. he really is fundamentally opposed to everything president trump ran on and is now trying to embark on his presidency with these policies and decisions. of course he's going to say i don't want the wall. this is what really divides us. that is his message so he's being consistent with his core principles. which are diametrically opposed to president trump. >> jesse: he's also being consistent by continuing to violate post-presidency criticism of your predecessor. >> dana: he is very young to be a former president.
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he's got a long life ahead of him. a party he feels responsible for for all of the losses across the country. he has to figure out a way to try to help them. now the democrats are in the wilderness. they don't have anybody. there's a really interesting balance between allowing your success or the space he needs in order to be commander in chief and do it in his way. and also trying to protect your legacy. i'm not sure what prince president obama will be. >> jesse: he's doing a lot of presidency protection these days my greg. we can't hide when there's conflict behind walls. he said. he had behind the syrian civil war. he did want to get his hands dirty at all. >> greg: what's interesting about this is it's not a strong statement. it's just a casual mild it's also deliberately misinterpreting the issue. no one is building a wall to
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hide. it's kind of a college freshman comment to make. walls are made so you can hide behind them? smart obama should live outside. we all live within walls. if walls imply you are a coward, president obama should live on the street and prove that we don't need walls. they are the most practical thing on the planet. they protect you. the wall isn't for hiding. it's for protecting. >> jesse: there is a wall around his new house in d.c., richard. it's a very tall wall. >> greg: i bet you have tall walls, richard. >> richard: i agree with kimberly on the point that the trump agenda and obama agenda are diametrically opposed. right? we can all agree there. building a wall on our southern border is not only cost-effective but it's rather stupid.
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>> greg: it's not hiding. >> jesse: why is it stupid to protect the country? >> richard: this argument that all these terrorists are running across the mexican border is absurd. >> jesse: there's ms-13 gang members coming across and drug traffickers coming across. >> richard: weight. we can talk about this ms-13 thing. like if we saw that ms-13 would solve all the drug problems in america. it's a public health issue, not a criminal justice issue. we won't fund nih, we will got the affordable care act and all the programs that help people who are addicted to drugs and then we say we will go after the gangsters and solve the drug problem. >> dana: that's a good debate. >> jesse: before they come into the country? >> richard: stop the drugs.
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>> jesse: locking them up once we cuff them. >> kimberly: walls apart, part of the framework to protect public safety. part of the equation is drug trafficking, these gangs seem to embrace their own free-market. there's also weapons, the criminality in terms of of building their and core group and jumble people into gangs and have them commit crime. violence is at the core of it. it's not isolated to drug trafficking. that's the reality of this situation. by the way, no problem with sessions and the rest of the doj saying let's get rid of ms-13 and other violent gangs that are plaguing our urban communities. that's the beginning of it. bottom line, and forced immigration laws are on the boo book.
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♪ >> richard: the trump administration is gearing up for a street fight. the white house allegedly planning to strengthen its legal and rapid response team to fight back against leakers and ongoing investigations. this is what the president contended in in a delusive sca. dana. >> dana: i think i recommended this a couple months ago. they should have somebody come at the point person that answers questions about russian investigations and special counsel because it allows them and freeze them up to be able to talk about jobs, economy, health care bill, foreign policy. interestingly, when bill clinton did it he had lanny davis. one of the d.c. insider type lawyers. and also knew all of the press. they all live together in northwest d.c. i actually think it's a little
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easier for the clintons then it's going to be for president trump. >> richard: i agree with you. i think you should have done this a long time ago. a smart move the president. what you do is create two tracks. an agenda track, what's happening, what you need to move. on the other track, dealing with all the scandal stuff. what do you think about it, gre greg? >> greg: he's dealing with a media and a party working together -- that married couple that lives above you that's always arguing really loudly. it sounds crazy and scary but they are still together. >> kimberly: .doesn't sound very happy. not about the married couple. he needs to have his own rapid response team. that crisis can indication. he should've had it right away. the people that are most loyal to him. and are going to be able to get control of the situation.
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he's at a disadvantage from day one after he was sworn in. it's not too late. he can turn this around and i think because of the situation with how the way the media and et cetera with all russian collusion investigation, this has now forced a hand in terms of -- now we have to deal with it. let's put a team in place. i think he has some very good people that he's going to roll out on this. the really going to shut this down. >> jesse: i concur. a day late and a dollar short like you said. reince priebus did a great job at the rnc. very nice person but obviously needs to take some responsibility for the chaos here. better surrogates. maybe triple the amount of surrogates they are using. more lawyers may be. get on the same page as the house and senate.
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>> richard: you blame mr. reince priebus for a problem at the top. the trump cannot control the white house period. >> dana: can i say one thing? it will only be as effective as president trump respects it. if he's going to put in place, that means -- he has meant tweeting this past week. it has been beneficial to him. give them the space with no twitter. >> richard: a quick break and when we come back, one of us isn't going to be here. kimberly is going to host "hannity" tonight. she will have the lead latest details on the montana issue. >> jesse: see you later!
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>> oh, my god, ! >> dana: can you blame him? from millerton, pennsylvania. he broke the record today and walked home with $31,500 after three of his five chipped landed in the $10,000 lot. can you imagine not? congratulations, ryan. i love the price is right. >> jesse: a great show. we talked about it the other day. the trump budget was on full display and they are cutting a lot from the epa. one of the things he used to justify it, $700,000 for a climate change musical. dana didn't think i could actually find the musical. but we did. roll it. ♪ until martha's last few years years ♪ ♪ ♪ >> jesse: they were singing about a pigeon.
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dismal reviews early, they closed. there goes the musical. greg, what do you have? >> greg: they raised the global warming with all that hot air. [laughter] >> greg: terrible joke which is why i did it. >> dana: my favorite. >> greg: i'm a big racing fan. i can't get enough racing. my favorite race is the 41st annual sue opelousas 500 check it out. turtles. ed carpenter, they are all tortoises. they took to the arena in the indianapolis zoo. this horrible, horrible race is that the prize was a bottle of gin mixed with milk. none of the other ones left. there were five turtles.
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>> dana: maybe they have stage fright. >> greg: i don't know if turtles -- it's a turtle, dana, i'm not making excuses for turtles anymore. >> jesse: and richard, what do you have? >> richard: it was teacher appreciation week and i was late. i want to hashtag thank a teacher. i want to thank a teacher, an english teacher from ohio and a debate coach who worked weekends and evenings, his students include doctors, lawyers, teachers and this fox news contributor. there is a picture of me getting i think that was a nationals? >> dana: wait, i was in forensics! >> richard: oh, my god! i was a policy debater. >> dana: one of those. >> richard: there was my debate partner. it >> dana: did you do extent
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