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>> thanks to all of you for being here this morning. >> thanks for being here and thank you for your service. >> log on to foxandfriends.com. >> fox on top of terror and the tour. us cities on alert in the wake of the uk bombing as investigators uncover new information. donald trump calling on world leaders to help white terror off the map, about to put the final stamp on a weeklong overseas tour. i'm david asman in for neil cavuto, we are kicking off a busy cost of freedom, the president said to deliver a closing speech in the next hour, john roberts live in italy,
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brand-new developments are unfolding. >> britain's prime minister refused the terrorism threat level from critical to severe which is where it was before monday's attack, that could be seen as a sign of progress for the prime minister warning everyone to stay on alert because the threat of another attack remains very real. there is a 3 day bank holiday weekend that has begun so a lot of people on the street, people might be letting their guard down. there was another raid in connection with the manchester arena bombing, the 13th carried out so far using controlled explosion to gain access to a building where they arrested two more suspects, 11 people are in custody with ties to terror and possible ties to a network that may have been supporting the suspected suicide bomber salman
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abedi who may have assembled had backpack bomb in a rented apartment two miles from manchester arena days before the bombing. he may have gotten his training in syria or libya where his father and brother are held for questing but authorities are concerned he might have built more than one device which is why we are seeing armed police across the uk and extra security in part of the ring of steel protecting 1300 events is that will be held across great britain this weekend. this memorial a tribute to the 22 people killed in monday's attack, the youngest just eight years old, 116 people receive treatment for injuries suffered that night, 63 of them are in hospitals, 20 in critical care this morning. david: even though they took down the alert level one notch, they must still be worried about
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other networks. is there any sign there is a terror network other than the one that led to the 11 arrests? >> mi 5 has been incredibly busy the past few months investigating any number of people. there were some 3000 people under suspicion as part of 500 separate investigations. the agency is overwhelmed, this is one of many, salman abedi was on their radar as one of many they were looking at. they are tightening the cordon around manchester in the suburbs. they have taken a lot of people into custody who may have connections to salman abedi. he may have assembled more than one device and there are others they are looking at so they are deeply concerned. david: even though the alert status is come down it doesn't sound like there are any fewer police or armed forces on the streets. >> just the opposite, we are
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seeing far more than they are used to seeing for the very reasons we discussed. david: thank you very much. us cities are on all are t busy travel holiday weekend after another lone wolf terror attack. the question is whether what happened over there will lead into what is happening here. we have some guests with us. duty jaster from the american islamic organization. us authorities working with uk authorities sharing information. we know there was a concern on the part of the uk authorities that somebody was leaking stuff they shouldn't have about their investigation, but any sign so far the what happened over there could happen here or might happen here? >> there is always the risk that it might happen here. we don't have the same degree of
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the problem europe has. europe is a cautionary tale for the united states, the open borders, the flood of migrants from war-torn nation, lack of assimilation in islamic communities where many individuals are listening to their religious leaders and don't see themselves as british citizens but firstly as members of the islamic community, they take jihadi them very extremely seriously but we don't have the same problem here but we do have some degree of that problem. we need to be on high alert. the president urging to drive out terrorists in our community is. david: very strong but we have the courts questioning his travel restrictions he wants to put in and we should emphasize the uk killer had just been to libya. he had just come back from libya. libya is one of the failed
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states, if you google libya you will find how failed it is, no semblance of solid centralized government there. that is the reason the president wanted to keep people like the killer we see therefrom coming here. >> it is not rocket science was muslims may be more assimilated in america we are going down the same slope but not as deeply as europe and that is the lack of willingness, the lack of courage to address the nonviolent precursors. all we are focused on is that last moment they strap the belt on, expressing some element of wanting to kill somebody, be violent but there are so many obvious signs, precursors before that that we could be focusing on, 3500 lone wolves you mentioned and a few hundred in america that have gone to syria and libya and come back, what should we be looking at? are they whining about
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islamohphobia? are they anti-semitic? are they looking for sharia state versus western democracy? do they blame western democracy for the death of muslims? looks like this guy's family and close community his mosque, as much as the mosque condemned it isis they have homophobic screens, these things are so obvious that we are ignoring them because our politically correct -- ignoring the ideology. david: we don't want to be reactive as what happened in great britain. we want to be proactive, stop the terror from happening before it happens and one way to do that according to the president even though the courts denied his intentions are sincere is by preventing people from failed states from coming and visiting us. it is clear you don't go to
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libya. failed state run by terrorists for vacation. you just don't. >> exactly right. that is just one method we can use to prevent this from happening but you got to get to the root of the ideology. the law enforcement tools we have are not the problem. it is the political class. that the political class understand the nature of the threat, if it understand human beings are not just motivated by poverty. if you have an education or not. they are motivated by this higher calling, finding meaning in life and these young budding jihadists find that in religious leaders and their parents and we have to be in tune to that. david: we saw in 9/11 that a lot of the terrorists came from upper-middle-class backgrounds. it is not poverty that drives them but ideology and the idea that the terrorists are winning. they spin this notion that every
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terror attack means a win for the islamic state. that is why the president uses new rhetoric we didn't hear from the obama administration. some people say it is simplistic. other people say it is right on. let me play some of the president's tape and get your reaction. >> i won't call the monsters because they would like that term. they would think that is a great name. i will call them from now on losers because that is what they are. david: it sounds so simplistic but it hit a point. >> these radical divide the world into the land of islam and the land of war. they are in a war. we need to be at war and take the war to them. muslims especially in the west. we live in a laboratory where we can fight these ideas, where
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more british muslims are signing up with isis to go to syria and libya than their own militaries. that is the battle for the soul of islam. do you feel more loyalty to western secular states or more loyalty to the jihadi. is it was great to see donald trump take it to the belly of the beast in saudi arabia, starting in counterterrorism center in riyadh, like the cocaine center in colombia. we need to do this in the west, we need huge centers built my muslims and led by muslims to fight this ideology in our mosques, loyalty and allegiance to western democracy. david: you are right but i thought those were profound words, when he was speaking truth to power in saudi arabia, they felt very uncomfortable, he was saying that. thank you very much, we appreciate you coming in. intelligence leaks now becoming a matter of life and death.
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david: live to italy where donald trump will be speaking in an hour. we will cover that live. john roberts has been all over the world in this trip. i must imagine the white house is pretty pleased with how they have done. >> reporter: it is safe to say they are very happy the way things of come off particularly saudi arabia and israel. gary cohen holding a press conference saying the president heads to these visits and with european leaders as well deepened the relationship he
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developed with these leaders hoping that the payoff for the united states in terms of new economic deals, new military deals, new spirit of cooperation. the president will be making remarks on the other side of the naval air station giving an address to sailors and naval aviators talking not just about military issues but his trip. it will be a wrap up for the president, the president making news a short time ago tweeting about the paris climate accord saying i will make my final decision on the paris accord next week. the president has been mulling over whether to pull the united states out of the climate agreement. 's chief economic advisor has been having a lot of conversations with european leaders and according to cohen the president's thinking on all of this has evolved over the
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last few days. >> his views are evolving. he came here to learn, to get smarter and to hear people's -- world leaders view some of which have been involved for many years. >> is the president goes back to the united states later today he will fly head long into a new controversy around russia after the washington post reported russia's ambassador to the united states was picked up in december saying he had conversations with jared kushner the president's son-in-law about a secure line of communication between the trump transition and russia. after talking to sources close to jared kushner, it was likely to establish a secure line of communication with attorney general michael flynn who is in that meeting so that he would be able to talk with russian generals and get back to speed on syria before the trump administration took over.
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reuters got the story in which jared kushner had three previously undisclosed conversations with phone calls, when in november. i got a statement from jared kushner's personal attorney telling fox news, quote, jared kushner participated in thousands of calls in this time period. he has no recollection of the call described. we asked reuters for the date of such alleged calls so we may look at it and respond but we have not received such information. it is also possible that some of the data the way it was characterized was disinformation, that he knew he was on a line that was being monitored and was trying to muddy the waters a little bit. we had to get more details, but that is what we have from the white house. david: thank you very much.
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>> of intelligence is leaked, we investigated and prosecuted. if we have intelligence official doing this for political purposes to attack the presidency, that is equally as disturbing and unlawful. >> it is wrong, it is arrogant, it is disrespectful to the people of greater manchester but mainly to those who lost loved ones. condemn it and tell it to stop. david: there are leaks over there, leaks over here, there are leaks everywhere. how do we find the leakers and get to the bottom of this? of former cia analyst to talk about the legal ramifications of all this but first to you. who would have access? we learned that the nsa was not as tight with their information as we thought was the fbi
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director gave us assurances the nsa intel was not getting out well, we found out it was. it seems a lot of people had access to secure information. >> that is right. we are seeing an unprecedented number of leaks. in mid-2004 there was an editorial on cia insurgency because the leaks stopped president bush from being reelected but this was leaked at a much greater level. there has to be a significant housecleaning of federal agencies and the president has to name confirmable and non-confirmable positions to get these sensitive positions out of the people put in place by the obama administration. >> there has to be a price to pay. this is illegal stuff leaking classified information. it is no joke. some people feel so passionately about getting this stuff out that they are risking severe jail time, either that or they
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are not afraid. >> you can say 10 to 20 years. classified information cannot be leaked but for certain individuals any information if you are an officer, government employee, contractor, all of that could be subject to prosecution. >> the wall street journal information if it is true, may just be misinformation passed on by the russians but they cite just one source, the washington post cites several sources for the same story. there are several sources i wonder if a conspiracy charge might be in the mix as well. >> there could be. you are talking whether or not reporters are involved in sourcing the information. media in general hasn't been prosecuted on a vast basis for receiving and publishing information. david: nor do i think they should be but people leaking
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definitely should be. >> they are subject to stiff penalty and jail time but if we do find that the media is part and parcel, they are aware of the leaks like when trump's irs records were leaked to the new york times. he put out a tweet saying please publish this information. did somebody in the irs and the media participate in getting that information public? david: do you think this comes from somebody in the trump administration or does it come from a careerist with the next to grind against trump? >> a careerist. many of these things are attributed to current and former officials because the obama administration began the leaks and obama holdovers are collaborating and going together to the news media to undermine trump. david: thank you very much for
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doesn't look that way when you read the thing. we have it here, steve forbes is looking at this budget. i go to the trump budget, to take two line items, medicaid and medicare, medicaid is at $368 billion. and ten use the trump budget -- that is not a cut but a huge increase. medicare, that is the younger. the old, $588 billion in medicare spending. in 10 years it will be over 1 trillion. that is almost double. how do they get these figures that everything is being cut to the bone? >> they leave out what states are spending, up another $50 billion in the next 10 years. we have typical washington gobbledygook to confuse us. the assumption that the budget must grow a certain percentage each year. if it is supposed to go up 4%
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but only goes up to% that counter the cut. only in washington would an increase count as a cut. what they are proposing is reforms, 20 years ago on welfare turning welfare into workfair. on food stamps, you work and instead of a handout try to get people back on their feet again. >> mick mulvaney, head of the omb said it is more compassionate to get people off of welfare than keep them on. that is his point. >> that is how you get a strong safety net, with a strong economy and helping people rather than hurting people. david: i grew up in washington. it is not a real place. in the height of the recession in 2008-2009, washington come all the restaurants were fool, you couldn't get a room in a hotel, you would think the
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economy would be booming. in years of the obama administration from 2009 up until last year median household income was flat while the government keeps getting these raises individual americans don't, government get the medical individual americans don't. >> washington lives at the expense of the american people. what happened under the obama administration they tried to decrease dependency instead of reducing it, food stamps went from 14 million people in december 2007 to 44 million today. that wasn't just the recession, it was encouraging dependency because they see that as political power. that is what they are mad about, the trump budget going back to what the clinton budget did in the 1990s, helping people get back on their feet and get the economy growing and that is how you get a strong safety net, strong economy where people have -- david: say what you want about bill clinton but he knew how to
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make deals and he made heels with the republican congress, newt gingrich was in charge, they made deals not only to get spending down but to reform welfare, to require able-bodied people to work for the money they were getting rather than sitting home and taking it in. >> since then they have mushroomed, we have 90 different anti-poverty programs, 22 housing assistance programs, 17 food assistance programs. are they helping that much? no. take medicaid for example combined state and federal spending, $7000 per person, if you gave 7002 each person in that household, the savings account -- david: growth is the answer to the problem and tax cuts stimulate growth. we see it all the time. jfk or ronald reagan but john o boehner said it is just happy
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talk. >> that is what happens when you stay in washington too long. reagan showed, the presidents have shown when you push for something, push for a major reform you will get it and change the landscape. i'm old enough to remember the 1970s, their old decade, americans in permanent decline, can't get the economy moving, very slow recovery, reagan comes in and stops inflation, cut taxes, america has a 20 year boom. we can do it again but you have to push the washington won't do it. david: democrats are saying there's a lot of creative accounting going on, senator ron wyden said that and other democrats but these are the guys who claim obamacare was going to make premiums come down and wasn't going to at a time to the deficit, we saw the deficit double to $3 trillion. >> family save $2500, i hope no
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one spend that money anticipation of what obama was going to give them. keep your doctor, keep your insurance, one thing to keep in mind, haiti's numbers on saturday morning but trump's budget goes from $4 trillion to $5.7 trillion increase in ten years. that is a cut. david: it is not a real world in the beltway. coming up forget russia spying on us. the obama administration has been doing it illegally for years. jim the on the new revelations that are unfolding and did you catch these world leaders snickering the other day when trump was talking? it will be donald trump who gets the last laugh. the classes, the friends, the independence.
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hundreds of people were just evacuated from london's old mactheater. the audience and cast have been told to leave. police were seen cordoning off the area. no other details at the moment. britain on highland that heightened alert after the manchester bombing. nerves are still raw. meanwhile there is this. >> of all nato members spent 2% of their gdp on defense last year, we would have had another $119 billion for our collective defense and the financing of additional nato reserves. david: smirking and snickering as donald trump scolded the europeans for not paying their fair share. what they said they were going to do but maybe donald trump is getting the last laugh because
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he just tweeted the following, many nato countries have agreed to step up payments considerably as they should. money is beginning to pour in, nato will be much stronger. bob gardner joins us and lee carter. let me start with you. i don't care has ever been a better example of european snarkiness from our perspective, and ungratefulness for everything we have done, nato, they came to our aid after 9/11 and grateful for that but we are more there for them then they are for us. >> no question. first of all, what were they laughing at. we don't know, something in their ear piece, somebody making jokes, we don't know what they were laughing at. if they were laughing at the president or i rolling at the president because he was calling them out it is completely inappropriate, disrespectful, totally a smug thing, we do not
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respect the united states because donald trump is the president of the united states and we have done so much for nato and they have agreed to pay their fair share. if they were laughing at him it is a disgrace. david: then there is the setting, the new nato building. hard to get an exact cross-section but it probably cost $1.7 billion to create a bureaucracy essentially. don't know how much effort will go to defending the future in europe or the free world but what they constructed in brussels. >> bureaucracy in brussels, i have to agree the smirking from some european leaders, the leader of luxembourg, appalling.
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and the french economy is sinking like the titanic and there was a lot of disrespect on display. it is important for european leaders to remember is that their freedom and security has depended upon the us security umbrella for 70 years and they owe a debt of gratitude to the united states for their own security. time for all european countries to step up to the plate, and ensure the nato alliance is strengthened for the next 70 years. david: i know you are democrat and not a fan of donald trump but when you see a us president go to europe and be snubbed by european leaders doesn't rile you? >> it is embarrassing but put it in context why this was happening. these same leaders had a great deal of respect for barack obama. they don't have respect for donald trump you need to look at why that is was he went over
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there like the ugly american. there is video of him literally pushing and shoving the president of montenegro out of the way, putting the new president of france into a weird bizarre i am a tough guy desperate handshake and also lecturing them on something he really doesn't know very much about. you read that tweet about money pouring in. that is not how nato works. david: he doesn't -- it is true that most of the european countries he put his finger on saying they are not paying their fair share are not. they are supposed to pay 2% of their budget on defenses which i will throw this to leave. what most americans see the europeans snickering at donald trump saying something that is true he does get the last laugh. >> it is a defensible argument to make but there is also
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something called diplomacy. when you go to talk to these people who are our greatest allies who have been with us after 9/11 -- there is something called diplomacy. david: most americans would rather see a president of the united states standing up for americans overseas then getting pat on the back by his european friends overseas, don't you think? >> absolutely right. the reason donald trump is president is because of his messaging which was make america great again and put america first. and he goes over there and speaks up for america it is something that resonates and talk about diplomacy, how about these leaders laughing at the president of the united states who has supported them over tough times.
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david: president obama, they all loved him and gave him a nobel peace prize before he did anything. they loved the guy but at the same time, what did that get him in terms of deals, what did that get them in terms of support? didn't get them to pay up what they owed as part of nato. >> that is right and global leadership is not about being loved or being popular but projecting aggressively us interests on the world stage and i don't think barack obama did that. many european leaders superficially saying they liked obama -- i do think the united states under resident obama did not project the kind of us leadership we needed to see and we did the a strong projection of us leadership through the past 7 days on the international stage and i think the end of the era of leaving from behind which president obama --
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david: thank you very much, appreciate, what you are seeing on the left side of the screen is the air base from which the president will lead his trip to come home. naval air station, a lot of people holding cameras, pointing in the right direction where the president's plane has come in and where he may depart from as well. there is action taking place, the president will be speaking to the crowd again. it is memorial day weekend, perfect time to speak to our troops overseas and that is what the president will do before he boards air force one and comes back home and then explosive new report suggesting the obama administration not only spying on americans but sharing that information, where is it going and how do we stop it from traveling any further? former cia chief jim woolsey in a moment. did you know 90% of couples disagree on
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david: life shot out of sicily, marine one. we saw another chopper that looked like marine one. a lot of staff got out and supported personnel, we are still in sicily, naval air station a little distance from where the president was meeting with members of nato. the president will use that are station to give a speech on this memorial day weekend to troops that are assembled there at the air station, we believe he will be summarizing the importance of the trip as well as saluting members of the armed forces on this memorial day. we are pleased to have with us in studio, we'll keep the pictures of the but the president's chopper landing at the airbase. jim woolsey was former cia director who knows this airbase.
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>> been there once or twice. david: they blend together. what do you think, as we are waiting to hear the president summarize his trip and importance of the trip particularly from a security standpoint, happening at a time we have this awful terror strike in england when we are in heightened status, how well do you think he did in the fight against terror? >> i think he did a very good job particularly with his speech in riyadh, saudi arabia. i think it was a good tour for him. and other than that i on policy terms and rhetoric, rallying people together, the tone of it
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was strong but businesslike. david: there were moments he spoke to those arab leaders in saudi arabia i was reminded -- we have peter robinson on a little later, he wrote those great tear down this wall speech ronald reagan delivered many years ago but i thought his drive them out reference to drive out the terrorists in your midst was extremely powerful. >> he did a good job and his speechwriter did a good job with him, a fine speech. david: a lot of people say he didn't write it, he was the speechwriter -- president reagan did not write tear down this wall, it was peter robinson. the president chose to make the speech and i'm told, maybe you have insight into this that members of the cia and other intel personnel suggested that ronald reagan not say that speech because it was too hard against a enemy nation that we had to negotiate with.
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>> people in state and cia leading up to a public statement say don't interfere with my relationship with my colleague over here and -- david: even though they are the enemy you can develop a relationship. >> the world of statecraft gets complicated and a lot of people are going to be in the government and it is not that they love the way the saudis treat women. it is terrible. they may think we are better off working with the saudis than trying to make up with the iranians like the obama administration did. david: let's talk about our traditional allies.
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the europeans we just spoke about snickering by europeans when the president was talking about them not meeting their obligations, members of nato, how do you think the president's relationship with our european neighbors which was an important segment of the strip is working out? >> not sure they moved into liking him but they respect him more after his tour. also his prompt utilization, wasn't militarily effective but cruise missiles against the sites in syria and the bombs they dropped and he did it not after months of deliberation but within a few days. that was a kind of reagan thing to do. david: in the midst of all this and right as he is about to go home and i don't think the timing is accidental either friday before a long holiday week just as the president is coming back from a successful
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trip abroad we have more leaks, this time focused on jared kushner but could have been any one of a number of things, where are these leaks coming from? >> hard to say, not all from the same place but i am appalled if anybody about this because some of these can undermine intelligence collection and leave us open to having enemies to learn things about us we don't want them to know and that is the way we process information and what we think is important. david: there is talk about a deep state, people in intel community careers who are unhappy with donald trump who are moving in a direction where they are going. >> it is a clever and deep sounding terminology but i don't think it describes anything that
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is happening. what are we going to do? we disagree with this. that doesn't mean some kind of new deep structure. david: we are fortunate not only to have the cia represented in the form of jim woolsey but the military in the form of army general jack keane who is joining us. as we are about to see the president step out of marine one coming into the station, i want to get a feel for how you think the troops are seeing our new president, their new commander-in-chief? is there a difference in tone? a difference in the attitude of the military from the troops on the ground, the folks in the pentagon about the new commander-in-chief? >> our troops have great respect for their commander-in-chief regardless what party they come
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from, they pay him tremendous respect, they are enthusiastic when a president comes to visit them. everybody wants a picture with him. they stay out of the politics of all this. we are involved in washington but they are not. not that they don't vote or have political opinions but when it comes to their commander-in-chief regardless of who it is they have great respect for him and they always honor him. david: we see marines opening the door and there is donald trump waving to the crowd at the naval air station in sicily. this is part of sicily, with his wife, there is melania trump. earlier chopper left some of the families traveling with him out first, let's listen to the music and see if we can hear any comments from the president. ♪
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♪ david: the president is about to go up to the stage but i do believe we have a little more time. what do you think general keane, the job the president did, talking to jim woolsey about the arab section of the strip uniting them against terror cells and their own midst and the european mission to try to get nato itself to focus more on terror than it has in the past? >> a successful and meaningful trip. he reset the table. that is something we have been arguing for on fox news, bring an alliance together and stand up against radical islam and counter the major strategic threat in the middle east come of the iranians.
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that alliance is going to stand up against the iranians and radical islam and that is significant progress and he told him three things, drive the terrorists out of your own country and stop having people in your country finance them and number 3, get your leaders to undermine the ideology because we cannot do it from the united states and that is a strong message no president has ever delivered a message like that to the muslim world. i'm proud of him for doing it and respect his courage for doing it as well. david: the drive them out speech gave me goosebumps. i talked to a lot of people, jim woolsey, the other point the general makes. this alliance between the arab leaders and not only the united states but also israel. who would have thought a common enemy like iran would have brought israel and the arab world closer together.
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this may lead to progress in middle east peace between palestinians and israelis we have never seen before. >> ready to work with arab states who will work with them for a while but this is a >> on the arab side of things and it is quite welcome. they are shifting gears as jack said, fundamentally, toward the administration, toward working with the sunnis and countries we have worked with in the past and turning against iraq which is absolutely essential. the biggest mistake the obama administration made, to agree to the nuclear deal two years ago, the worst agreement the united states is ever seen. dame -- >> melania will introduce the president. if you can get in a comment about that.
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it does look like piece may be achievable finally in israel between palestinians and israelis because of this move against iran. >> we have a long way to go to get that piece because both sides have intractable positions but we have a highly motivated president. david: i have to stop you because the first lady is about to speak. >> what a beautiful place. we have a great time here and he did a lot of great stuff and i want to thank you very much. an incredible treat and great drive has been made. my husband worked very hard on behalf of our country and i am very proud of him. this has been incredible for me as first lady.
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in saudi arabia, children, local school and female employees. in israel i spent time with children along with mrs. netanyahu. i was honored in rome to speak to pope francis followed by a special visit to children's hospital. just hours after leaving, a >> a new heart donor. receiving that news is a moment i will never forget and i wish him a speedy recovery. in brussels, i met with them and participated in a forum
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preventing jn line exploitation of children, and for the patients at the children's hospital. this trip for me has been very special and i will never forget the women and children i met. as one of the kids at the hospital that i visit gave a picture she drew for me. we are all the same. i also want to take a moment to thank you all for the sacrifices you've made on behalf of our country. it's because of yourselfless commitment that we enjoy the freedoms we have today. and to the families who endure time apart or constant moves to the base, your sacrifices do
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not go unnoticed or unappreciated. thank you and god bless you. [applause] >> and now, it is my great honor to introduce my husband, the president of the united states, donald j. trump. [applaus [applause] >> usa! usa! usa! usa! >> i've got to get the lipstick off, is it off? thank you, honey. thank you both. that's great. and i'm trying to figure out who is in that helicopter that's coming in. it may be prime minister abe, it may be justin from canada, great people. we met a lot of good friends i
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tell you, a lot of good friends, they're good people. america is very blessed with a lot of great diplomates and i have to say that as she just walks over here, but i don't think the united states could have a better emissary than our magnificent and wonderful person, hour first lady, melania. thank you. thank you. [applause] >> the countries of the world have a large number of des agreements, but they all agree with me on that one. that i can tell you. so, everywhere we go it's the same old story, so, great job. and you know, we've been gone for now a long time. everywhere i go -- but we have been gone for close to nine days. this will be nine days. and i think we hit a home run no matter where we are. we're thrilled to be here right now and we're getting on that very big plane and heading back to washington and the united
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states, but to be with you at our great naval air station is wonderful. i can think of no better way to conclude our first foreign trip than to spend the time with you right here, with the incredible men and women of the united states navy and with all of our brave soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, and our great civilians who support them, right? [applaus [applause] >> a very proud nation salutes you. a very, very proud nation. i tell you what we are very, very proud of you. every single day you protect the safety and security of the american people and provide a symbol of hope, freedom, and justice for the world. to our friends and allies, you are the ultimate reassurance. to our enemies, you are the ultimate deterrent.
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you're the metal spine forged out of the american strength and you notice how much stronger we're getting, are you feeling it? are you feeling it? all the new equipment is coming in and you saw what we did with our military budget, way up. took a little heat on that one, but it's okay with me. you are the men and women who make up the most powerful military in the world and under my administration, as you know, you've seen it, right? under my administration, stronger, and stronger, every single day. i want to thank captain brent trickle for leading the american presence at the hub of the med. you know what that is, right? the hub of the med. captain, considering everything your team has done to prepare for this visit, and you really have done a lot, i've seen it,
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feel free to sound liberty call as soon as wheels are up. okay? that sounds-- maybe i'll stay down with you and celebrate together with you. but before going any further, i also want to express on behalf of the united states, our gratitude to our italian and n.a.t.o. allies here today. we have a lot of them. [applause] >> you're stationed at the crossroads of the mediterranean working side by side with americans to confront the threats associated with the tremendous violence, suffering and instability across north africa and the middle east. two every service member from italy, from an n.a.t.o. country, we want to thank you for your friendship and for partnering with us in the fight to defeat terrorism and protect
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civilization. [applause] >> better believe it. terrorism is a threat, bad threat, to all of humanity and together, we will overcome this threat, we will win. [applaus [applause], but none of what we achieve would be possible without our wonderful military spouses and families, each of you makes these great sacrifices for a country as well. let's hear it for the military spouses, please. [applause] we will always support you and we will never ever forget you, i have to tell you. there's one special group i have to thank and that's our eighth grade students right here in sigonella.
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where are they? oh, here they are! i've been hearing a lot about you. in january, the eighth grade class at sigonella came all the way from washington to march in my inaugural parade. look at you, they're all so happy. young, you'll have a great life, great life. thank you very much. i have to say, are you all glad you did it? thank you. it's an image i will always remember, your smiling faces right in front of the white house carrying that great big beautiful american flag, right? thank you, kids. you traveled all the way from italy to support my inauguration, so today, i'm glad to be here and i traveled a long way to support you and it's my honor. thank you very much. [cheers and applause]
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military children also make great sacrifices for their country, and i want you all to know that america is so proud of you, as you know. i was here in sicily to attend the important summit meetings, the meeting of the g-7. it was a tremendously productive meeting where i strengthened american bonds. we have great bonds with other countries. and with some of our closest allies, we concluded a truly historic week for our country. our travels took us to some of the holiest sites in the three abrahamic religions and gathering america's oldest and newest friends. and we traveled the world to strengthen longstanding alliance and form a partnership among nations devoted to the task of eradicating the
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terrorism that plagues our planet. [cheers and applause] and we've got the people that can do it, believe me. and i am now more hopeful than ever in the possibility that nations of many faiths and from many religions and from many regions all over, all over, can join together in a common cause, the barbaric attack in manchester, and the massacre of innocent young lives underscores the depth of the evil we face and the urgent need for us to join forces to absolutely and totally defeat it [cheers and applause] i met with prime minister may and expressed the absolute solidarity of the american
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people and just yesterday coptic christians in egypt were viciously gunned down in another vile terrorist attack one that took the lives of beautiful egyptian children and others. these attraction grieve ourselves, but they steel, i mean steel like in steel our resolve. together civilized nations will crush the terrorists, block their funding, strip them of their territory and drive them out of this earth. my first visit during my travels took me to saudi arabia where i had the honor of participating in a historic summit with the leaders of more than 50 muslim and arab nations, hosted by king salman, a wise leader who expressed a strong desire to work with the
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united states not only for confront terrorism, but the extremist ideology behind terrorism. the nations of the middle east have endured one terrorist attack after another and i called on them to take on the burden of fighting this evil that has killed so many innocent muslims. during this unprecedented gathering, we opened a new center to come babat extremist ideology, launched a task force to fight terrorism animased an economic development deal, the likes of which there has never been, that will create hundreds of thousands of jobs in the united states building the equipment that has just been ordered by saudi arabia. we also further isolated the iranian regime over its hostile
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and destabilizing actions and reaffirmed that iran must never be allowed to obtain under any circumstances, a nuclear weapon [cheers and applause] . i was deeply encouraged to hear from the leaders of many muslim and arab nations they are ready to take on a greater role in combatting terrorism and providing young muslims in their region with a future of safety and a future of opportunity. next, i went to jerusalem, where i reaffirmed our unbreakable bond with the state of israel. there, we continued our discussion about fighting terrorism and crushing the organizations and ideologies that drive it. i went to the western wall, a monument to the perservere of
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the jewish people and prayed at the church of the holer -- holy sepulcher. and all children from all faith deserve a future of hope and peace, a future that does honor to god. [applaus [applause] >> i visited bethlehem, a city so precious to so many and met with the palestinian leader, president abbas. he assured me he is willing to reach for peace with israel in good faith, and i believe he will. and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu assured me that he, too, was ready to reach for peace. he's a friend of mine and he
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means it. from israel we came to italy, in rome i was inspired by the beauty of st. peter's basilica and even more inspired by meeting with pope francis, a great talk. it was truly an honor to meet the pope and to pray for peace on those hallowed grounds. then i traveled to two summits with our key allies. first at an n.a.t.o. summit in brussels, where we agreed to improve the burden sharing among members of our alliance, and to further confront the shared threat of terrorism. other member nations must pay mo more. [cheers and applause] >> the u.s. is currently paying much more than any other
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nation and that is not fair to the united states or the united states taxpayer so we're working on it and i will tell you a big difference over the last year, money is actually starting to pour into n.a.t.o. from countries that would not have been doing what they're doing now, had i not been elected. i can tell you that. money is starting to pour. it's only fair to the united states. we want to be treated fairly. and we're behind n.a.t.o. all the way, but we want to be treated fairly. all of us will be more safe and secure if everyone fulfills their obligations the way they're supposed to. right? look at this man, he's over there, he's agreeing with me 100%. and most people agree with it. next, i attended the g-7 right here in sicily and made great
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progress toward very, very vital goals. i laid out my vision for economic growth and fair trade in support of good paying jobs and even great paying middle class jobs and more. and i called for much greater security and cooperation on matters of both terrorism, immigration, migration, to protect our citizens. from saudi arabia, to israel, to n.a.t.o., to the g-7, we made extraordinary gains on this historic trip, to advance security and prosperity of the united states, our friends, and our allies. and we pave the way for a new era of cooperation among the nations of the world to defeat
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the common enemy of terrorism and provide our children with a much more hopeful future. you're going to have a great, great future. you're going to have a safe future because of your parents and other people in this room. [cheers and applause] this is why i knew i had to conclude my trip right here in sigonella, with the dedicated service members who make the future so bright, so proud because i am so proud of the future you're going to have. are you all proud of the future you're going to have? you better believe it, right? dad, mom, we're all proud of it. we're all proud of it. we're proud of our country. the men and women of the united states military have been the greatest force for peace and justice in the history of the world.
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i want you to know that you have a commander-in-chief who will never forget, never ever. you will always be remembered, number one, just remember that. always. i will give you my complete and unshakeable support. we've already made a historic investment in defense spending, you've been reading about it. because we believe in-- and you know this, what's the expression? peace through strength. peace through strength, right? you'll understand that when you get a little bit older. peace through strength and that's what we're going to have, we are going to have a lot of strength, we are going to have a lot of peace. we will buy the planes, the ships, vehicles, and equipment you need to get your job done and to come home safe and sound
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back to your families. [cheers and applause] i also know that the single greatest strength of our armed forces is you, you, all of you. the dedicated, really tough, and really disciplined servicemen and women who bravely fight in our name. you not only know the pain of sacrifice, but you also know the tremendous rewards of military service, of being part of something much larger than even yourselves. you know what it means to be part of a military team in which men and women are bound together in a sacred covenant of trust, to serve together, to sacrifice together, and to fight together. and by the way, and to win
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together, because you're going to win. you're going to do a lot of winning. [cheers and applause] you're going to do a lot of winning. and my pledge to you is that we will always protect those who protect us. you are protecting us. and we will always remember that and we will always, always protect you. americans fought and died to liberate europe from the evils of naziism. you know that, and fascism. american military power helped to free the world from the oppression of communism, and today americans like you are battling the sinister forces of terrorism throughout the middle east, north africa, and the world. american military history is rich with noble traditions,
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harrowing missions and selfless heroes like your parents. at its core the moral of the story is always the same, the story of good overcoming evil. you have poured out our hearts, your souls, and then your blood for this nation and we will pour out our gratitude to you in return. we will show our gratitude, especially this monday on memorial day when we pause to thank god for the heroes who have laid down their lives for our freedom. [cheers and applause] >> all right? among those heroes was a young navy sailor from omaha. his name was john joseph p
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parlin. he enlisted after the attack on pearl harbor. completed midshipman at landed not far from here in the waters of the mediterranean. on the night of july 9th, 1943, he was among the tens of thousands of forces preparing for a surprise landing on the shores of sicily right here, about 70 miles away, to be exact. it was to be a major allied offense on european soil and it was important. on a ship cloaked in darkness just six miles off shore, they noticed that a smoke screen device had caught fire in a small boat staged to support the landing. the boat was filled with explosives.
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he knew that if he didn't stop the fire, an explosion would light up the night sky, alert the enemy, all of his fellow comrades would be killed, and the invasion would be a failure. so he rushed to the source of smoke, hardly able to breathe, breathing the smoke in, and without a thought for his own safety. picked up the burning device with his bare hands, ran to the side of the boat, and hurled it into the sea, as far as he could throw. in that decisive moment, parl didn't hesitate. he acted. and in that act, he helped ensure the success, not only in the saving of his friends and those lives, but of the allied landing itself, which turned
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out to be a very, very important victory. so the allied forces went on to win the sicily campaign, critical in their ultimate victory was parl. but before that final victory, the young, brave, beautiful sailor, who helped make it possible died from the smoke that had damaged his lungs so badly. ensign parl had just turned 23. yesterday would have been his 97th birthday. for his brave actions ensign parl was awarded the medal of honor. this memorial day we remember him and all the brave men and women like him who give their last breath in defense of our
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country. we honor their memory and their sacrifice, and we also hope to honor them with our deeds to prove worthy of their sacrifice. because there is no peace without those willing to bear the scars and wounds of war. there is no strength without those brave enough to protect the weak and the people that need protection. and there is no prosperity at home without those willing to shoulder our burdens overseas. that glorious american flag represents the blood of patriots spilled in defense of freedom. it represents the courage that burns in american hearts. it represents the unity that binds us all together as one and it represents the freedoms
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bestowed on us by almighty god. you are the warriors of freedom. you are the protectors of that great american flag. you are the patriots who keep the fires of liberty burning and you are the one to protect the god-given freedoms that are the birthright of every single american child. i am proud to be with you today as your commander-in-chief. i am honored to have had this time to spend with you. i am excited for the great adventures and achievements that all of us will accomplish together. may god bless you. my god bless our service members. my god bless the united states of america. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. [cheers and applause]
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thank you. thank you very much. ♪ >> on this memorial day weekend, president donald trump in sicily, italy, focusing on the sacrifices made by all the troops, all over the world, visiting here at the naval air station in sigonella, italy. focusing on those sacrifices that have been made, particularly the ultimate sacrifice, which is that which we are honoring in this memorial day weekend. we still have with us general jack keane and former cia director wools y. it's extraordinary we have an administration focuses on peace through strength and another lowers the guard a little and another one has to come back and that's what happened. we had carter who didn't perhaps spend as much as he should.
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and ronald reagan spending a lot more than he should have spent. we had bill clinton enjoying the peace dividend after the reagan and bush years and then we had president obama, letting down a little bit after george bush built up. so now we have the buildup again, no? >> yes, but we've never had a president that i'm aware of since world war ii who has-- who saw the world so differently. most of our presidents, democrat and republicans, have always seen america on the world stage promoting global security and stability and the pie -- byproduct of that prosperity. president obama didn't see that, he pulled america back from the global leadership role and as a matter of fact, he accommodated our adversaries. as a result of it, our add ver saris were em boldened and the world got more dangerous.
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i've never seen anything like it. this president won an election partly because he wanted to return america to the traditional leadership role and promote security. that's what this visit is about. he's given everybody notice that america is back on the world stage. david: who would have guessed a president, jim woolsy, chided for not having experience, maybe not a businessman, but not experience as a diplomate. he may have successes on the home front, but abroad it's not likely to be successful. he's had more successes in turning things around the way that general keane just suggested, than he has, arguably on the domestic front, certainly the legislative arena. go ahead, jim. >> that's right, i think that he -- on the domestic side of things, he's got a big step in trying to get the health care done right because that
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probably has to happen before he can move into doing the tax revisions and tax cuts, and the prosperity in a way depends on that. david: but, again, what he outlined just briefly for us in italy, the extraordinary visit first with the arab nations and then going, meeting with the head of the religious leader of roman catholics in the form of the pope, and finally with the european leaders. i mean, this was a kind of a diplomatic tour deforce, a hat trick, a lot of people said he couldn't pull off. >> this was big. he shifted the political ground in europe and i think with russia, and i hope, very much, with iran because that's where the, i think-- other than north korea, i think that that's where the real contest is going to come, between iran and its various, such as hezbollah and hamas and
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so forth. on the one hand versus him and israel and the sunni, largely, on the other. and that's going to come to a head. david: where, jim, do you think that his critics, what was their blind spot in not recognizing that this was a man who go could over and so profoundly change the image of the united states abroad. >> i think a lot of people sort of got locked into the obama world view that jack keane stated very well. which was, hey, it's not our responsibility, party time. and certainly that whole attitude, which basically gave up on america's world-- role of world leadership was not only abandoned, but mocked. and i think he had the backbone to make a major start in turning that around. david: general keane, i don't think it's only his detractors
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and perhaps his enemies who pooh pooh'd this trip and said it wasn't going to solve anything, but a lot of supporters didn't have confidence in his ability to perform overseas as well as he did. i think that this trip really changed that, don't you? >> oh, yes, no doubt about it. the problems of the world, i had the opportunity to talk to him myself about this. because like most presidents he does not have much foreign policy or national security background and most presidents are pretty quick studies when it comes to the world, but the problems of the world come to 1600 pennsylvania avenue. you're not able to control that and that started almost immediately with north korea, with iran. he has sanctioned both of them and now uniting the muslim and arab world, and that's leadership. i'm delighted to see him doing it. he's stepping up and he's
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exercising that leadership role once again and i know, because i've been in contact with our allies in the middle east, they are absolutely overwhelmed with enthusiasm about what just took place. so, yes, he's performed exceptionally well in terms of foreign policy and national security. david: well, jim, one of the ways in which he hasn't performed as well is his underestimation for the animosity inside the beltway and the fact that, in fact, these leaks keep coming out, over and over, and clearly by some people who want to undermine the work he's been doing. whoever they are, we're not sure. we may never find out. hopefully we will, and hopefully they'll be prosecuted to the extent that they broke the law. he did seem to underestimate, whether it's, you know, a dark state, if you will, as some people have suggested, within the intel community or not, is beside the point. the president really doesn't seem to have been able to control it. do you think he will?
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>> i could be biased by my views of service out there and the high regard i have out there for the folks who work at the cia, but there are other possibilities for the leaks. for example, holdover appointees from the previous administration because there are a lot of those folks still in the jobs that they were in because this administration has not been able to get its act together quickly enough to get a number of those slots filled. david: is that the responsibility of this administration, or because the democrats have blocked any kind of appointments that would help them clear the decks of the people who might be the leakers? >> i think this administration could have gotten starter a good deal faster than it did, but it's beginning to move now and that's good. i do think that the leaks are terrible. that's more the cascade than i've seen in 40-plus years in
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washington, as much and many of them working on these issues. and i just can't come to terms with what people think they're accomplishi accomplishing by turning loose information about the way we collect intelligence. i was in a debate with one of them a few months back and i said, you've just disclosed the way the cia works with the mexican intelligence in trying to prevent trafficking in women and children. what are you trying to do? are you trying to be a pimp, help the pimps, what? and that, you know, he didn't really have an answer. david: general keane, how do we track down these leakers and how do we get rid of them? >> well, my advice to the administration, put your head down and do the work of the people. and don't get paranoid about this thing. this is an area you really can't control it. yes, i agree with jim, it's the worst i've ever seen to be
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sure. turn it over to the justice department, which he's done and get about the nation's business and stop worrying and wringing your hands over it. get on what doing what's right for the country. david: our own john roberts, of course, has been following the president throughout this trip and john, i'm just wondering, exactly how , how much of a wait this new leak, i don't think it was a coincidence, it was issued on a friday of a long holiday weekend, right before the president was to come back. if anybody had any doubts about the political timing of these leaks, i think those doubts have been answered, no? >> if john roberts can-- >> oh, i'm sorry. david: go ahead. >> i'm sorry, david, somebody was in my ear as somebody was leading into me. it used to be when you want today bury something, you release it on a friday night. the way with social media is and the internet taking over the news cycle put something out on a friday night, people
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get the entire weekend to chew it over and revolves in the laundry drama of the internet and it looks likes that's probably what this was designed to do. we don't know for sure if this was actually said or whether or not this was disinformation from sergei kissniak, smoke in the water, what was discussed during that meeting with jared kushner and michael flynn and sergei at trump tower. we were originally told when we learned back that in march, it was kind of a get to know you kind of thing, but i'm told by sources close to jared kushner, if they talked about this idea of establishing some sort of secure line of communication between the administration and russia, likely to allow michael flynn who was going to be the national security advisor, a secure line with generals over in moscow who would only talk
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over a secure line for a basis over syria and other thorny issues before president trump took over on inauguration day. it's portrayed as this was a prudent act to take. it's seen in other circles as something less than that. david: i also want to ask though, the president sort of summarized in between his salute to the troops, which was very moving, but he summarized what this trip meant, what he accomplished and what he meant to do and what he did do. of course it's from his perspective. he think a lot of his detractors have to agree what he did, particularly in saudi arabia, was extraordinary. speaking truth to that power there to drive out the terrorists within their midst. he did get to turn n.a.t.o. into more focusing directly on the terror threat, rather than its historic focus on the soviet union which doesn't exist anymore. so, it was a tremendous
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resetting of our security desires as a nation, no? >> i think when you look at the trip as a whole, even somebody who wasn't necessarily a fan of the president, would have to say that on the overall, it was a very fruitful trip for the president. let's take a look at what has sort of been laid out there in terms of things that the president did wrong. people are complaining he didn't mention america's commitment to article five at n.a.t.o., but the ceremony itself was all about article five and he invoked article five in the nation's of n.a.t.o. all came together after 9/11. then there was the fact that he seemed to push aside the prime minister of montenegro. well, the prime minister of montenegro, if you know his history, is very capable of taking care of himself. and the idea that the president called out 23 of 28 nations in n.a.t.o. to athey haven't paid their fair share. the secretary-general of
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n.a.t.o. thinks is a good thing because embarrassing these nations into living up to their 2% commitment to n.a.t.o. is something that's going to bring more money into the treaty alliance and will help benefit n.a.t.o. when you take a look at how america is bearing the lion's share of the burden when it comes to n.a.t.o. a lot of countries are paying 2% of gdp, and other countries, the one i'm in now, not even living up to 1% of gdp and america is paying and it looks like an unfair share of the burden. if there's to be a fair share of the 28 and soon to be 29 nations. david: and some smyk nickering the leaders as the president was trying to get them to put up more. we've got word french president macron, if he was one of the
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snickers, he's changed his tune dramatically and praised donald trump's quote, capacity to listen. i found someone open and willing to deal well with us. on his departure, at least, they're praising him very highly. >> and one of the things, i think, that the european leaders really appreciate is the fact that president trump has been willing to listen to their concerns about the paris climate accord. this is going to be a very thorny issue next week when the president comes back to washington, because initially it looked like he was just going to pull out of the paris accord. he's got the apa administration scott pruett, chief strategist steve bannon, it's better for meck america to get out. and on the other side, jared kushner and gary cohn saying it would be complicated. and he listened to the european leaders and gary cohn, and yesterday, the president thinking about paris, quote,
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was evolving. we may find when the president gets back to washington he pulls america out of the paris agreement and he may surprise people and not do it. david: well, john roberts, it's been nine days. and we've seen the president's plane taxi down the runway on the way back to the united states. wish him well. safe travels to the president and first lady and all of those who accompanied him on this trip. as we just heard, president trump pulling no punches, telling it like it is on his first foreign trip, something n.a.t.o. leaders heard a couple of days ago. take a listen. >> i have been very, very direct with secretary staultenberg and members of the alliance in saying that n.a.t.o. members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations. david: now, some are saying
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it's a lot like president reagan sounded during one of his trips to europe. take a listen to that. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. david: well the man who actually wrote those lines joins us now, former ronald reagan speech writer joining us from stanford, california. peter, let's get out of the way, first of all, trump is no reagan, we understand that, we get that, but trump has done particularly on this trip, and not only what he said in europe, but for what he said to the arab leaders, drive them out. drive them out. these terrorists in your midst, drive them out, these purveyors of death. we have this assumption this is something that we have to live with. that terrorism will be with us forever. this president is saying, not so. we can end the terrorist threat, the terrorist crisis we've been in. much like ronald reagan said we don't have to live with the
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cold war, we can win it. to which you say? >> to which i say, the parallel is precisely correct, david. there's a marvellous moment, 1977, i believe it was, when the president was going over foreign policy matters. he was between serving as governor and had not yet been elected president, but talking over foreign policy matters with dick allen, a friend of yours and mine who served in the administration. and dick told me years later, the president said, would you like to hear my theory of the cold war? dick allen said, of course, mr. president. and ronald reagan said my thierry of the cold war is we win and they lose and it was just as tight and blunt as that. and now we have in donald trump, he's not as polished a speaker, as you said, he's not ronald reagan, but that central-- it's a kind of moral imagination. he's willing to invite people to see a world in which we don't have to put up with this
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anymore. we can win and they can lose. david: and we were literally told by the obama administration, that this is something we have to live with. this president says no, it's not. we can fight it and win against it. >> that's exactly right. and again, there's the parallel, again, is very striking. jimmy carter gave a speech at notre dame years ago in which he warned americans an inordinate fear of communism, that we'd have to learn to live with them and we'd be around a long time and they'd be around a long time. ronald reagan came in and changed what we thought about the matter. and once again, barack obama, your conversation with jack keane and jim woolsey, barack obama engaged in a long retreat with the rest of the world and the rest of the world got more dangerous. and along game donald trump, the leaks, this and that,
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that's secondary. he is reasserting the place in the world. david: and some people are belittling the drive them out speech in saudi arabia, and meant so much with our arab allies. and some people saying he didn't write it, but ronald reagan didn't write tear down that wall, you did. i know there are people opposed to ronald reagan saying what you wrote, correct? >> pretty nearly the entire foreign policy apparatus of the government opposed that speech. ranking diplomate in berlin, all opposed that. colin powell and i went nose to nose, number two in the national security staff at that time. it was ronald reagan -- i wouldn't have written that speech for anyone other than ronned reagan. we speech writers are always trying to give ronald reagan back to his speech.
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we knew his mind, what he would respond to and i wouldn't have written that for anybody else and nobody else would have overruled the foreign policy apparatus to delivering that speech. like-wise the trump administration, i don't know the speech writers there, i know steven miller. it's clear they're not trying to invent donald trump. they're trying to take the policies, they understand the principles he believes in, the speaking style that he has so well-- well formed. they're not trying to invent a voice. they're not trying to invent policies. they're writing material at that comports with donald trump himself. david: stay with us. we have another gentleman who knows how the white house operates and speeches are delivered and chosen by the president, mr. pat buchanan now joining us on the phone. pat, i'm sure you saw the drive them out speech by president trump when he was in saudi arabia. i'm wondering, do you think he had pushback from some people
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at the state department or the cia saying, mr., president, that's too long for our arab allies? >> my understanding of president trump is that he would ignore pushback and might pushback against that. so, i do think, david, i saw him on the speech just now at sigonella. it was exuberant, patriotic, it was really america first, america is back. the marked contrast in demeanor with president obama is really astonishi astonishing, and i think the president, of course, he's taken directed us to a new course both in the middle east and saudi arabia and in europe and we're going to see how it works out, but i will say, you know, what he did in europe was basically read them the riot act and saying i'm not fooling around. you folks are going to have to pay more and pony up for your share of the defense of the west, and the united states has carried the undue load too long. and i think that's exactly what they needed to hear.
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it's going to jolt a lot of people in washington, as well as in-- it did in europe, but i think he did a great job. and at the close, i was pretty touched because my uncle went ashore in sicily with the same fella he walked about. it was extraordinary. david: the man who would have been 97 if he had not been killed on the shores of italy. peter, i want it talk about the after-effects after ronald reagan changed the direction of the united states after the cold wall. it didn't come down under the watch of reagan, but under the watch of the first george bush. do you think it will take that long before the power and the truth of the words that we heard spoken in saudi arabia will really have an effect here? >> well, lets hope it happens that quickly. the wall came down 18 months
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after reagan delivered that speech. sooner than any of us, i think pat would agree, that happened much faster than expected. the sequence, ronald reagan delivered the speech, the soviets changed their behavior. mickhail gorbachev told the east germans, if you have trouble, we're keeping the red army in the barracks and you're on your own and the german people themselves took care of the problem and tore down the wall. what we hope is that president trump delivered this very powerful speech. i think you're right the may 21st speech in saudi arabia, by the way, there's been one line overlooked, i think it's a powerful line, terrorists do not worship god, they worship death. that's as memorable or compelling a line as any president delivered. but you hope the arabs listening to that speech let's say the saudis themselves who have for years funded with a--
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wahabbism, and that muslim people throughout the middle east decide they've had enough of terrorism. david: pat buchanan, another thing we've had enough up, not only terrorism, but people opposed to changing the dynamic and the way that president trump has suggested changing things. the status quo, or the swamp as the president says, the way things have been done for years that they oppose any kind of change. >> not only that, what's going on in d.c. is the deep state of the permanent government, david, it's not simply leaks out of the white house, which are political or petty, they're getting national security leaks out of the fbi, nsa and places like that and they're defacto crimes. when the president comes home i think he ought to have a division at the fbi headed by a
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special prosecutor and punish these people. you can't run a foreign policy when you've got antagonists and opponents in the policy, damaging the interest of the united states in order to damage the commander-in-chief. david: but what about the pushback? they're not all leakers. some of the people who are pushing back are establishment, members. political bureaucracy, if you will, that just oppose any kind of change. by the way, we're looking at air force one. this looks like the takeoff taxi on the way from sigonella air base in italy and sicily, back home after a nine-day trip, an extraordinary trip which started out in saudi arabia. we should mention, by the way, it's the first time air force one or any plane that we know of, any commercial plane or any diplomatic plane traveled directly, nonstop from saudi arabia to israel. pat buchanan, that alone is worth mentioning.
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>> it was dramatic indeed and there's a tremendous amount of hope in the middle east of the president is a new man, that barack obama isn't there. and i will say this, david, look, they're talking about putting 3000 more americans troops in afghanistan for we've been for 15 years. we saw yesterday, the day before, coptic christians massacred in egypt. this is going to be a long, long war, there's no doubt about that. peter robbins did a great job with that speech and i didn't anticipate it. but that's a long war for those of us involved in the cold war. this one is going to be gradually and it's going to be a long, long time. david: president nixon, just as any president the last 40, 50, 60 years, trying to broker piece between israel and the palestinians and seemed to come
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together, we had that dramatic meeting of anwar sadat and bagan and sadat was assassinated and do you think the same will happen with this effort to bring piece in the middle east? or not? >> i think i agree that peace is not going to be come to the middle east i think in this term and i don't know where it earlier you had general keane on, there are irreconcilable conditions between israelis and others to the right. i don't think that netanyahu is going to make the kind of concessions that are needed. the palestinians want their capital in jerusalem and they're not going to get it. they're going to want settlers off the west bank and they're not going to get it.
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netanyahu opposed the removal of 8,000 from gaza. is he going to execute the removal of hundreds of thousands from the west bank? i think the president has got a good idea going, sending people over there, but i would not be terribly optimistic. david: on the terror front and redirecting n.a.t.o., and getting the arab allies to fight this terror fight like they never have before, i think it's fair to say this has been an extraordinary, much more successful trip than anybody imagined. >> it's successful and dramatic and i think there is a new man in town. david: indeed, there is. pat buchanan, always a pleasure to hear from you, we thank jack keane and jim woolsey. and we want to turn to the economy, how things overseas may be affecting your money. and joining us, tracy, the market has done pretty well. it looked like it was kind of
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idling along, particularly as the president was near dealing with constant problems at home. as soon as he left and gave that speech last weekend in saudi arabia, the market responded positively and has been doing very well ever since. >> you know, we really haven't seen too much reaction in terms of what happened after the incident in manchester. we did see the dow drop on march-- i'm sorry may 17th, over 300 points after the memo from comey, and discussing flynn. we did see that drop, but since then, the market has come back, the trump rally seems to be getting back on track there, and-- >> we're over a percent growth just this week partly because of that. and the bottom line, nobody saw it coming. and everybody thought the president's problems would probably follow him overseas, that he might stumble here or there, it doesn't happen and the market responded
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positively. >> i think that people are realizing, there's a focus on positive, they're moving toward the choice act that would dismantle problems with dodd-frank, and health care reform is have aensing in the senate. there are substantive economic reforms part of what we're seeing in terms of the rebound. david: gary b, we talked about this with steve forbes and then the drag on part of the republicans. john boehner, former speaker of the house saying it's a pipe dream that the president is going to get tax cuts. >> yeah, exactly. you know, i think boehner's comments were interesting by the way. i don't know if he's talking his book, as they say, he's sort of bitter or speaking the truth, but even apart from that, it seems like we're living from headline to headline, from tweet to tweet. maybe we go through that and my memory is just short. now, boy, you cannot -- the first thing when i wake up in the morning and i check is
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twitter, to see if anything happened, if trump said something, if "the washington post" has come out with a headline. i like the market right now, i think we're in good shape. that down day rattled me. rarely do you have a down day like we had the 340-point down day and then go straight back up. my fear right now is that we have some other headline and then it's another 500-point down day. so, i'm kind of-- i'm positive, but living in fear right now. david: yeah, but jonas, again, it's extraordinary how well the world perceived this visit, even when he was-- when he was speaking in saudi arabia, it really started on sunday when he spoke, gave that speech in saudi arabia, right, saturday, was treated like a king himself when he was meeting with the kings and princes over there. and gave a stern speech, people saying geez, he'll be so fetted by the saudis, that he'll be
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taken advantage of. not so. the speech was clear. the market responded well, they saw he will stand up for what he thinks is right and he's not bowled over by these sword dances and things. >> i think trump needed a break from the-- to gary's point high noon negative, but i don't think the market is going up any more as a trump rally. it certainly was in the beginning and that was part of relief we weren't going to get more taxes and more regulations. the relief we're not going to get there and then the optimism of the tax cuts. and odds of those happening soon, the market going up, why didn't that peter out? right now investors are enthusiastic you see it in the new accounts opening in schwab, back to 1999 levels. day trading with the new apps on margin like late '90s. you see it in crypto currency gambling online.
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and whatever caused the initial rally it's not solely driven by the likelihood of a high tax cut or a permanent tax cut it's more investor optimism. david: and let me get caree in here. what we've seen on the trip to europe was reblossoming. yes, we've seen some of the hard right candidates fail, but we've seen the far left candidates fail as well and a lot of people like macron and others who have come in have been pretty pro market, right? >> i agree with jonas, it's not just the trump bump from the inauguration. there are sustainable things happening. you look at what the trump administration, fortunately, is dismantle a lot of the bureaucratic obama regulations on the economy, on regulations. david: it's happening all over the world. that's the point. and i think what this trip did, forgive me for interrupting, but i think what it did was bring what's happening abroad to what's happening here and focusing on what needs to be done, particularly, speaking
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truth to power in saudi arabia and europe. jonas max ferris, tracee, terry, gary b smith, thank you for coming in and great to see you all. much more to come on fox news. we'll see you soon. >> president trump wrapping up his first foreign tour and spent time talking to our troops in sicily this memorial day weekend. air force one taking off just moments ago. david: plus, when the president lands back home, he will a he get back to a capital upset with the russian investigation. our fair and balanced panel breaks down the political fallout. >> as we celebrate the official start of the travel season in ocean city, maryland. we'll find out how everyone from beach goers and business owners are living in the trump
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