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american oil, dropping it off in europe. this is a great story of american inknow violation and sweep neuro-- innovation and entrepreneurship. paul: thank you for watching. i'm paul gigot, we hope to see you right here next week. >> breaking news out of amsterdam as the police investigate a car crash, reports of five people injured with two of them hospitalized now. the driver has been arrested and is being interrogated. hello, everyone, welcome to a brand new hour inside "america's news headquarters," i'm kelly wright -- julie: and i'm julie banderas. more on whether this was an accident or an attack as soon as we get it, but there are also new developments this hour in the london bridge attack. mike tobin is live in london with the very latest. >> reporter: julie, i'll start off in amsterdam where police are investigating this, and the good news right now is it does
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not appear to be linked to terrorism, but you do have another case of a car plowing into people. it looks like it was someone who was parked in the wrong spot, and whatever happened with that interaction, if he flipped out at the end of that, he took off driving, he smashed his car into a wall. but there is not an indication right now that that was linked to terrorism, and i should mention as he drove in the direction of that wall, he did manage to hit some pedestrians. there are no fatalities, but i should emphasize that police think in that case in the amsterdam that it's not linked to terrorism. it's a different case here in london as we get more evidence from investigators which indicates that the attackers here in london had their ambitions set on greater bloodshed. california ram butt attempted to rent a much bigger truck, 7.5 tons, very similar to the truck used in the attack in nice one year ago that killed 86 people. his credit was declined, and the attackers had to go with a
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smaller van. investigators found more than a dozen molotov cocktails made from wine bottles and rags. there was also gravel inside of the van. investors speculate that may have been for traction. there were also office chairs which are a bit of a mystery, and those may have been a diversion so the attackers could claim they were renting the van to help someone move. now, although all three attackers are dead, investigators continue to conduct raids believing the attackers had help. two more people were arrested in east london overnight. >> we've seen 18 people arrested across various parts of london and outside, and that is all trying to the understand if anybody had wider knowledge, who, in fact, they assisted or supported these three attackers. and i fully expect further searches and arrests to continue. >> reporter: parts of the crime scene are still blockedark in the borough area tonight, the red cross has set up a fundraiser in which proceeds
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from pints, food, even cab rides will go to victims of the attack. the mayor says that shows the world how londoners respond in the face of diversity, the head of the police said don't give in to terrorists, go about your daily business. julie? julie: mike tobin, thank you very much. kelly: president trump is calling out qatar. his comments at a joint news conference yesterday coming after several arab countries including saudi arabia and egypt cut off diplomatic ties with the small persian gulf country over its financial support for terrorists. ambassador robert jordan is the former u.s. ambassador to saudi arabia, diplomat in residence at southern methodist university and author of the book "desert diplomat." sir, good of you to join us. mr. ambassador, i would start off with are you shocked about this news about qatar? >> not really. kelly: why? >> this has been coming for a long time. it's like a slow-moving train wreck.
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the saudis and emiratis have had a continuing struggle with qatar for many years. a lot of it is petty jealousies, a lot of it is disrespect. al-jazeera, for example, the tv and news network in qatar has been very critical of the saudi royal family for many years. back during the time i was ambassador, the saudis pulled their embassy from doha because of an article about king abdullah, the founder of saudi arabia. they've broken off diplomat bic relations in the past, but this is big. this is most serious rupture, i think, certainly in generations. it's creating widespread panic within doha. the grocery shelves are empty. there are very serious consequences here if this isn't dealt with. kelly: ambassador, how bad can it get in terms of the relationship that the united states shares with those countries in the middle east pertaining to qatar and the fact that we have u.s. military
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operations conducted there? >> it could be very serious. we have a tremendous national interest in maintaining relations both with the saudis and emiratis on the one hand and the qataris on the other. the air base in qatar is, i i think, the largest air base in the middle east. i've flown in there. it's a gigantic operation. so we can't simply walk away from that. we need a relationship with qatar, but we also, i think, understand just as president trump indicated that the time has come for qatar to stop subsidizing hamas, hezbollah, the muslim brotherhood. so this is a conversation that is long overdue. kelly: it seems like, and quite plausible to assume, that because of the fact that qatar has supported hamas and hezbollah and the muslim brotherhood that they're trying to play both sides of the fence. they're trying to make nice with the united states and also its arab allies and at the same time fueling and funding terrorism.
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>> that's exactly right. we've been saying this for years, they're playing a double game, and the time has come for them to decide whose side they're on. kelly: so what should the united states do along with saudi arabia and those other arab allies like bahrain and uae that have come against qatar in terms of saying stop it, let's move forward, let's band together particularly when you look at president trump here along with the king of saudi arabia and then all of the other kings were there as well when he just visited there a couple weeks ago. and one would have thought that the middle east was getting itself together and becoming a solid ally in terms of developing some unity, but we can see from in that the middle east is still very troubled. >> it's still the middle east, and i think that's something we've got to keep in mind. what i think we should do is avoid backing qatar into a corner where the emir has to be humiliated in order to make concessions. i think a mediator like the emir of kuwait who is trying to
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mediate this situation can be effective. and it needs to be a muslim-to-muslim kind of interaction here. i don't think there's much the united states can do other than be supportive of some kind of resolution. but they're going to have to sort this out for themselves, and i think qatar is going to have to make a choice here on whether they're going to continue to support hamas and hezbollah in the same way they have, or if they're going to play ball with their neighbors a little better. kelly: and, sir, the fact that we have men and women there serving in our military for our interests as well as protecting our allies there in the region, there's got to be a way to to broker some sort of agreement that we can move forward and have qatar stop its sinful ways, so to speak, repent and come back to the table. >> i think that's right, but it's got to be done in a way where they don't face the humiliation -- kelly: right. >> -- of a generation. and there's also some instability within the qatar royal family itself. there are recent reports that an
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opposition group of the royal family is developing an opposition party in london. so this is something that we need to watch as well. it could be very destabilizing if the emir doesn't catch on to what he's going to need to be doing here. kelly: ambassador robert jordan, again, the name of your book is "desert diplomat," and my west west -- my best to those at southern meth disuniversity where you now serve -- southern methodist university. julie: three american soldiers have been killed, another wounded in afghanistan in an insider attack. earlier today we had gotten word initially it was two soldiers killed, now that number rising to three. the taliban claiming responsibility for the attack. john huddy is live in our middle east bureau with more on this breaking story. hi, john. >> reporter: yeah. yeah, well, julie, a senior u.s. military official says that three army rangers were killed in the attack, as you were just talking about.
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one was wounded, again, in this vicious attack that the taliban is now claiming responsibility for. take a look again at the map here to give you an idea where this happened. and by the way, this happened during a joint afghan/u.s. military operation in eastern afghanistan. that's east of kabul, it's very close to the pakistan border. afghan officials say that the shooter was a member of the afghan army's commando forces. he turned his gun on the guys that he was training with, and he subsequently was killed in return fire. we're told that the u.s. military is investigating whether this was, as afghan officials are saying, an insider attack; that is, a so-called green-on-blue attack, green being those affiliated with the afghan army or security forces, blue being those affiliated with u.s., nato or other coalition forces or private contractor forces. if so, it wouldn't be the first time. you may recall back in march an afghan soldier turned his gun on u.s. soldiers training afghan
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troops at a base in kandahar, wounding three u.s. soldiers, and that afghan shooter was also shot and killed in return fire. but if this was an insider attack again, a green-on-blue attack, it would be the first fatal one of 2017, and it comes as president trump is weighing the option of sending 5,000 more u.s. troops to afghanistan to hook up with the roughly 8,400 already on the ground there. but the u.s. has increased its firepower in afghanistan already. in fact, dropping more bombs in april, in any month in april than since 2012, including the moab, the mother of all bombs in eastern afghanistan, julie, the same region where these three army rangers were killed today. julie? julie: john huddy, thank you very much. kelly. kelly: president trump spending this weekend in bed minister, new jersey, just days after former fbi director james comey's testimony on capitol
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hill. the president accusing comey of lying to congress about their private conversations, and he's willing to go under oath to prove it. kristin fisher is live in branchburg, new jersey w the very latest. kristin? >> reporter: yeah, well, all of washington is really focused on comey's testimony on thursday and what the president said yesterday. the president is dealing with the situation in afghanistan. he has been briefed by his national security counsel, so has the vice president, and he spoke about that just a few hours ago in wisconsin. he also said in wisconsin that he repeated his pledge to end obamacare even though the senate is still struggling to come up with its own replacement plan. meanwhile here in new jersey, the president, he's preparing to roll back more obama-era policies. he's planning on heading to miami next friday to unveil his administration's new cuba policy. well, as i said, all of washington really remakes
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fixated on what president trump said yesterday in that rose garden press conference. >> would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of -- >> 100%. i hardly know the man. i'm not going to say i want you to pledge allegiance. who would do that? who would is ask is a man to pledge allegiance under oath? >> reporter: so president trump says he did not ask comey to pledge his loyalty while comey says and testified under oath that he most definitely did. so somebody's lying, either the former director of the fbi or the president of the united states. now, over the next few weeks expect this white house and outside surrogates to continue to attack comey both as a liar and as a leaker while the special investigator behind the scenes continues to investigate. kelly? kelly: kristin, thank you for your report. julie. julie: well, the u.s. navy commissioning a new warship today named after a brave lawmaker who survived a horrific assassination attempt.
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the touching ceremony coming up next. plus, president trump's two major campaign promises, health care and tax reform, they have been delayed by the ongoing russia investigation, but republican lawmakers are working on a plan to period things up. wait until you hear what it is, next. ♪ ♪ what's the best way to get two servings of veggies? v8 or a powdered drink? ready, go. ahhhhhhhh! shake! shake! shake! shake! shake! done! you gotta shake it! i shake it! glad i had a v8. the original way to fuel your day. yeah, 'cause i got allstate.? if you total your new bike, they replace it with a brand new one. that's cool. i got a new helmet. we know steve.
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kelly: fox news alert, an update on that amsterdam situation where police say there is no indicationing of an extremist attack in an incident involving a car hitting pedestrians. we do have an update on the injured, eight people now uninjured, two of them hospitalized, others treated on the scene. the driver at the scene has been arrested. julie: republican congressman mark meadows saying law makers are in talks with the white house to actually combine health care and tax reform into one gigantic bill. now, the chairman of the house freedom caucus also saying the task needs to be finished before september. pretty ambitious. president trump has expressed increasing frustration his legislative agenda is being bogged down by the russia investigation. we have the political editor for national journal, thank you so
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much for talking to us, josh. you know, there's a lot of distractions right now between the russia investigation, no collusion. media loves it though, nonetheless. the trump campaign, the comey leaks, the personal attorney hired, the tweets, i mean, the trump campaign had promised two things, two major things. three, really, immigration the wall, but health care. and in may they went ahead, the republicans, decided they were going the overturn health care and obamacare just as the president promised but, unfortunately, nobody seems to be cooperating. it's down to the senate. what is the likelihood that you take this giant bill, health care reform, and you mix it with tax reform, and you throw it into one bill and it actually gets passed come september? >> very low. look, i understand republicans and the white house both desperately want to put some legislative points on the board. they really want to have a signature accomplishment before the fall, but the reality of health care is that there's so many divisions within the republican party x even the
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prospect of whatever the senate can come up with in altering the house legislation, that that could get passed through the house, no less a very ambitious corporate tax reform package that has, you know, tax reform hasn't been done in quite some time because there's so many different republican constituencies that often disagree on the nitty-gritty about tax reform. so the notion that you could package in this all in one big, gigantic bill and not really talk to your constituents about it, not really be able to focus on the details because it's so big, i think it's a self-defeating belief and strategy from the republicans. julie: you mentioned constituents. obviously, there are a lot of people, sol vulnerable -- some vulnerable republicans especially that are seeking re-election, and they need to sell this. whatever it is this is going to be, we'll know more about the tax reform idea in the next four weeks, but their political careers are on the line. so with that said, the campaign promises of health care, the tax reform, how hard is it going to
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get for those house republicans to back whatever modified health care legislation comes out of the senate and with enough time sell it to their constituents and actually get reelected while getting this monstrous bill passed? >> it's not easy especially for these vulnerable house republicans. and it's kind of common sense because voters don't like grand, ambitious packages. they like, you know, when you can target a piece of legislation towards a certain constituency and saying you're going to benefit them. that's what wins over voters. obamacare is sort of a textbook example of what happens when you try to ram a 2,000-page piece of legislation that people don't know any of the details about into one big law. republicans would be foolish strategically to try to do the same thing is and also combine tax legislation within that same bill. and make no mistake, there are dozens of house republicans that are looking at the legislative clock and, you know, 2018 midterm elections are a year and a half away, but once that calendar gets closer to the election season, they're going
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to be less willing to vote on controversial or perhaps damaging legislation to their own political interests. julie: let's just talk about if this were to go through, all let's just say that this was all going to be folded into one fancy package, one fancy bill. so when you talk about health care reform, the idea is to save americans money and make health care more affordable. tax reform. everybody -- a lot of people who voted for president trump voted for him based on tax reform alone. they want to to see tax cuts. they want to see a balanced budget. if you take tax cuts and you marry it with affordable health care, does that not sound attractive to constituents? if it can be done, does that not sound like a bad deal? >> the devil is in the details. in theory, that would be overwhelmingly good for republicans to sell if you could say we're going to promise you economic growth and reduce the premiums on people's health care insurance. but in reality we know that often times the promotion doesn't necessarily match the reality. and i think a lot of voters are understandably skeptical about
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grand promises given what they experienced during the obama administration with a lot of the same stuff. so i think, i mean, i think the sweet spot for republicans is to take one thing a step at a time, understanding that you can get perhaps a big health care repeal passed, but you need to sell it to the voters. you're going to make your own constituents want to support instead of trying to the find out about what's in it later on. julie: that's interesting. republican congressman mark meadows of north carolina, the house freedom caucus chairman, he told neil cavuto on his show on fox that the quicker we can get these tax reforms in place, the better the economy goes. and that is what people are looking to president trump to do. i mean, he has increased jobs and the economy is doing well, and that has to speak for something when you're trying to pass tax reform. he also talked about the sense of urgency for this administration to move past all of the negative and the focus on policy needs to become center
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stage. talk about the timing, how critical it is for republicans to finally come through on something. >> well, it's very important because the base, the republican base elected donald trump, even those who didn't really love his campaign, they elected him because they thought with a republican congress there would be the opportunity to pass a lot of consequential legislation. so far that hasn't -- with the exception of the supreme court justice gorsuch, we haven't seen a whole lot of legislation get passed through congress. so there is a political concern that the base won't show up, they won't vote republican in the midterm elections if nothing gets passed, but there's also a worry about a these swing voters, independent voters that don't see good salesmanship from republicans and, frankly, they're not promoting their own agenda to their own voters. julie: i think, yeah, when it came to health care, i just don't think it was advertised. they've got to work on their marketing. but when you talk about marketing, if you have bad
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press, it doesn't help either. and we all know that some in the media would love for all this drama to drag on in washington. but for the good of the country, it's got to stop. so at what point does one side concede its flaws, and somebody -- you've got to, first of all, rule number one, you've got to admit when you're wrong. i think that would really bring a lot of credibility to a lot of those in washington. so if the american people can now move forward, get past all the drama and focus on the issues, is that ever going to happen? >> on health care specifically, the senate's modifications to house legislation could end up being a little more politically salable than what happened to pass through the house. and i think the best chance for republicans to put legislative points on the board is whatever comes through the senate. and if someone like mark meadows who's on the conservative wing of the republican party can embrace a slightly more moderate package that goes through the senate, then you have some compromise, some opportunity for republicans to get things done. julie: josh, thank you very much. appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> thanks, julie.
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kelly: former fbi director james comey talking more than just president trump this week, comey raising new concerns over former attorney general loretta lynch and an alleged order she gave. how big a deal is that? texas congressman louie gohmert joins us live next. >> the attorney general had directed me to not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter which confused and concerned me. ♪ ♪ [ music stops suddenly ] ah. when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. awww. try this. for minor arthritis pain, only aleve can stop pain for up to 12 straight hours with just one pill. thank you. ♪ come on everybody. you can't quit, neither should your pain reliever. stay all day strong with 12 hour aleve.
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19 states. this organization believes islamic law is a political ideology that's hell bent on destroying western civilization and its values. and when word got out of these marches, anti-fascist groups and radical left elements along with pro-immigrant rights advocates planned counter-protests. inevitably, things got heated in new york city. at least one person was arrested. now, organizers for the anti-sharia law march say they are standing for human rights. dozens of protesters showed up saying sharia law is the motivation for extremist islamic radicals and is intolerant of freedoms for all people especially women, female mutilation, stoning, no voting rights. they believe it threatens america. >> this is pro-american that we need to do this for ourselves and each other, we really do. we have to look out for each other.
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>> i'm for islam. i don't, you know, discriminate against anything or the religions or race or anything. it's like, it's just the extremism part of it that's sort of like, you know, makes everything so bad. >> reporter: the counter-protesters in new york, most anti-trump supporters, believe the anti-sharia law movement is a, quote: dog whistle for antiplaintiff muslim race -- anti-muslim racists. >> they are not for our rights, they are not for our freedoms. they're for the freedom of just a very small percentage of this country. >> reporter: the scene was similar around the country. there were clashes in michigan and in austin, texas. hundreds of counter-protesters marched in seattle as well, confronting just a few dozen anti-sharia law protesters. now, both sides came ready for potential violence given what happened in portland, oregon, on
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sunday when a pro-trump rally was met by radical extremists. that's why you saw that one gentleman with a helmet in our story, julie, because he believed perhaps things could have gotten violet. luckily, just one arrest, but we'll monitor the situation around the country. julie: all right. bryan llenas, thank you so much. kelly. kelly: well, the dust is still clearing from james comey's senate testimony as the former fbi director spoke out for the paris time since he was fired last -- first time since he was fired. tucker carlson among those saying comey's goal was simply removing president trump from office. >> as of 8 p.m. eastern time tonight, donald trump is still the president of the united states, and that means that on the most basic level comey's testimony failed to achieve its goal. make no mistake, removing trump from office was the goal. kelly: well, weighing in on this issue, amy tarkanian, she is a former nevada state gop chairwoman and was a national
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delegate to the republican convention last week, and pablo is a former dnc staffer and co-founder of k street media. so -- >> good afternoon, kelly. kelly: good afternoon to you as well. let's begin with how do we address the situation? because there's still fallout from this. many people are scratching their head, some are just attacking and vilifying james comey and saying that he meant to put the president in the crosshairs of bob mueller, the special counsel. so, amy, let me begin with you and your take on this. >> sure. well, what he did by leaking out that info was basically just to spite the president. once he was removed from his position and was fired, why would he decide to then at that time release that information? the guy's disgruntled, he is angry, and it was in spite of the president. it was to hurt him. kelly: pablo, did you get that feeling that he was disgruntled and angry and trying to hurt the president?
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he did say he was upset by the way he was summarily being dismissed while having to learn of it while he was enroute to a speaking engagement. >> disgruntled the angry, no. i would say that one thing that did come i through especially in the early minutes of his testimony was that he was very hurt by the decision that donald trump made to fire him and concerned that it would have a tremendously negative effect on the fbi's ability to do its job as a law enforcement entity in this country. moreover, i think that tucker has it completely wrong. it wasn't an attempt to remove donald trump from his job, it was an attempt by a man who was fired to set the record straight about what happened in the leadup to this. i mean, the firing of an fbi director as we've seen since might be a knee-jerk reaction by an immature president, but it has tremendous consequences on how this country works and how our american freedoms are secured and defended within our
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states, within our borders and beyond. kelly: amy, one thing that came up just earlier today we had bill gavin, the former assistant to the fbi director who was on and speaking, and he said, look, james comey is the only person that raised his right hand, took an oath to speak the truth and nothing but the truth. so someone is lying here, but gavin went on to say that he doesn't even think the president is lying. perhaps the president, as gavin wanted to say being generous, was speaking and not really understanding everything that was involved in this directive that comey claims he received from the president of the united states. so how do you -- >> okay. if this truly was -- [inaudible conversations] oh, go ahead. if this truly was a directive by president and he felt that it was inappropriate, it was comey's job then at that point to say, mr. president, this is inappropriate, please don't talk like this. and he should have taken it to his superiors, either to the
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attorney general or to legal -- president trump's legal counsel or congressional committees that can then take care of this situation. in 2004 it's stated that he actually did the appropriate thing, and when president bush at that point in time asked him to do something that he felt uncomfortable with, he went to the a.g., actually, who was in the hospital at the time. so he has a history of know what's appropriate, what's inappropriate and, obviously, this was clearly spite. kelly: pablo -- >> i disagree. kelly: you disagree? why? because we do know the director was upset, as we have talked about, and we do know the director wanted to try to put some information out this by leaking that memo because he was fearful that president would in turn put out information that would put him in a bad light. we also know that james comey wanted to say perhaps i could have been more forthcoming about the situation, but he basically gave the indication that he was kind of intimidated by the president of the united states. >> i think that --
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>> if he felt that weak, like he said he was, he should have taken it to his superiors. kelly: pablo. >> not all of us can be as courageous as amy when confronting the president, but i like to think if president trump tried to shake me down, the sheer spectacle of donald trump shaking me down in the white house would probably intimidate me as well. i mean -- >> we're talking about the fbi director who's also known for hiding behind a curtain because he didn't want to be in the same room as the president. give me a break. that sounds like a weak individual -- kelly: let me bring in something quickly -- >> no, no, no, because i think it's important because, you know, in certain partisan constructs we say that james comey was hiding behind a curtain. in other partisan constructs we say that sean spicer was hide anything the bushes. nobody's hiding from anybody. people are going to the meetings that they've agreed to have on time, at the pleasure of the president, serving at the pleasure of the president. but what president trump did was tremendously inappropriate, was tremendously intimidating and,
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honestfully, i mean, i thought -- honestly, i thought that it was pretty noble and humbling to see an american patriot like james comey discuss in candid terms what that made him feel. kelly: before i let you go, let's get to the crux of all of this. while we can say what james comey as say about the president and vice versa, comey said the russians are coming after america. they want to dirty us because we remain the shining light on a hill. no matter how much we don't get along, and we're seeing that right now, we must work together for the future for america, especially for the kids. we have to show them we are a functioning democracy. can we find agreement on that statement? amy in. >> well, sure, absolutely. however, we also have laws that have to be followed. and it's very well possibly that the director himself broke fbi contract by not handing over this information the appropriate
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way and instead of leaking it out to a third party. kelly: all right. >> so we have to to follow rules too. kelly: pablo, i've got to end it there, i know you've got a statement, but pablo, amy, the dust is still settling on this one, and there's more to come. >> have a great weekend. julie: comey's testimony on apital hoyle and the nation, but what about his statements on former attorney general loretta lynch and her directions for how to handle the hillary clinton serve r scandal? texas congressman louie gohmert joins us live next. ♪ ♪ it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car.
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to a he said/she said because there is a lot to be said about exactly what this conversation was like. call it a matter or stop the investigation. i guess was he basically being told to leave it a go? hillary clinton has been very vocal in blaming james comey for losing the the election. what do you think happened in that conversation between lynch and comeysome. >> well, we know at best it was an attempt to manipulate the election not by the russians in this case, but by the department of justice, the attorney general herself because that came from comey. i know there's been a lot of discussion in the show, you've done a great job talking about the witnesses. but as a former prosecutor, judge and chief justice, i can tell you credibility is always relevant, it's always material. and when comey said he kept -- he took a memo of what the president said because he was
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afraid of what he might do in the future whereas you have the attorney general herself basically telling him to lie. she knew it was a criminal investigation. the fbi's not allowed to look into matters. it's got to be an investigation. there's got to be a criminal probe that they're getting into, otherwise they have no business getting into fishing expeditions or fishing matters. so he ruined his own credibility, what was left of it. he did vast damage and raised big, red flags and questions -- julie: right. >> -- over loretta lynch's job as head of the justice department. she was using her official position to help the campaign of hillary clinton, and that didn't seem to bother him enough to do a memo. but met me make one -- julie: yeah. i'd like to know why there wasn't a memo. you just read my mind.
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why wasn't there a memo, if he got a memo about an alleged conversation between he and the current president of the united states, now, he's talking to the former attorney general right before an election, he knows how much this investigation's going to obviously weigh in, okay? >> that's right. julie: so the attorney general is telling you that you want to call this a matter and not an investigation, that's worse than, you know, rumors -- >> absolutely. -- julie: -- telling comey let's just make this michael flynn thing go away. why are we just now hearing about this? >> when he said the president lied about him and he used the l-word, comey was lying. how do we know? look at all the things he said, you know? that was ridiculous to say, to not have done a memo, and then i believe i heard him say he did the memo and then he talked with some of his colleagues, we need to round up everybody he talked to because they were all conspiring against the president and all conspiring against their oath of office, conspiring against their own employment agreement -- julie: yeah. >> he says he took it with him,
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it was a recollection repressed. those of us that deal with rules of evidence understand that. but if you look at his employment contract, he promises in there and signs it that says everything he prepares if furtherance of his duties -- in furtherance of his duties -- anything he records -- it is part of his employment agreement, and it must be turned in when he leaves the fbi. julie: yeah. >> so he lied on that, he lied about the president, and then he's not troubled when the attorney general tells him to lie about what he's doing. i tell you, we need to round up all those people that he talked to, because we have a conspiracy remaining afoot in the department of justice that is going to be out to destroy this president, and they've got to be fired, if not worse. julie: okay. so, i mean, if you look really deep into this, between the unmasking -- which, by way, for political reasons that's illegal. that's a crime. >> absolutely. julie: so you've got these conversations that allegedly
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took place which, basically, is saying dust it under the rug, there's memos that are apparently recorded only during the president's conversation with comey but not while the attorney general is, essentially, trying to get him to drop an investigation. then you have a special counsel that's a assigned to an investigation which at this point has proven nothing regarding collusion between the trump campaign and russia. obviously, there's a double standard, obviously, there's politics in play here. >> completely. and one other thing -- julie: are they going to reopen the investigation? now that we know this conversation took place? >> it should be, and i wish one of the senators had asked about the rumor that's been around since october that the only reason that comey said he was reopening the investigation is because we had heard there were fbi agents found the e-mails, and they sid said if you don't -- this is what we heard, if you don't reopen the investigation, we're quitting, and we're going to out you as covering for hillary. julie: all right. gotta go.
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♪ ♪ kelly: president trump receiving fierce pushback over his decision to the paris climate -- to it the paris climate -- to exit the paris climate deal. california's governor jerry brown now taking his fight to the world stage. anita vogel is live in los angeles with the latest. >> reporter: hi there, kelly. it's hardly a secret that governor jerry brown and president trump are on opposite ends of the spectrum on welcome every issue. and when it comes to climate, jerry brown is taking his resistance globally. just yesterday he was in san francisco meeting with germany's minister of the environment to announce a joint goal to cut emissions by at least 80% below 1990 levels by the year 2050. they both say it's a direct response to the president's decision to withdraw from the paris climate accord. >> it is a clear signal this broad alliance shows that the withdrawal from the paris
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agreement was a the decision of the administration of trump and not of the whole american society. >> reporter: and just last week governor brown was in china to focus on climate change. he spoke at a clean energy conference and had a rare meeting with xi jinping to talk about climate. governor brown also signed a number of non-binding climate pacts with regional officials in china, fostering a push for zero-emission vehicles and loring greenhouse -- lowering greenhouse gas initiatives. >> it wasn't too many years ago that climate change could barely make it in newspaper. with president trump taking such a outlandish position, he's actually heightened the focus on climate change. >> reporter: twelve state ands puerto rico have become members of the u.s. climate alliance and remain committed to achieveing
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emission reduction goal. ten other states are vowing to continue to to follow paris agreement. now,, for his part, president trump has said the paris climate deal would impose draconian financial burdens on the u.s. and cost the u.s. thousands of badly-needed jobs. he has said at some point he hopes to enter boo a new and different deal -- into a new and different deal for the country. kelly: anita, good to see you. julie: that was a fast hour. all right, go out there and enjoy the day. not yet, because arthel neville is standing right there, looking beautiful in yellow. kelly: and eric shawn. julie: he has entered the building. kelly: thanks, everybody. julie: i'll see you on "the fox report." ♪ ♪ if you total your new bike, they replace it with a brand new one. that's cool. i got a new helmet. we know steve. it's good to be in (good hands).
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