>> jon: the congressional baseball game will go on. see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts now. >> sandra: >> new details pourit yesterday's shooting. this is the number -- steve's glaze remains in critical condition and will require more surgery. three others were shot and remain injured. this is "outnumbered," and sandra smith. your today, kennedy, also from the intelligence report, trish regan, jessica tarlov is here, and today's #oneluckyguy, brian kilmeade. he is outnumbered. we thought you didn't have enough to do today.

>> sandra: i want to point out that jessica tarlov is here for the first time. we had to sit you two next to each other. there's a lot going on, let's get right to it. and may be a long road to recovery for congressman scalis scalise. the house majority whip is in critical condition and will require more surgery. dr. say the bullet traveled across a sprawl that is, fracturing bones, injuring internal organs and causing severe bleeding. we are joined live from the hospital really congressman is being treated. what is the latest there? >> the latest is that vice president pence and his wife karen visited scalise here at medstar hospital early this morning and shortly after their visit, the vice president weeded out a photograph in these words. karen and i just left medstar. keep steve's scalise and your

prayers. there is no new word in his condition since the statement from the hospital came out. more questions are raised. the pelvis protects so many vital organs from the bladder to the intestines, so it raises so many questions about the recovery ahead. last night after his surgery, president trump and first lady melania visited scalise accompanied by aids including sean spicer. they were seen bringing to bouquets of flowers in. the personal position of the president was in attendance. the first couple sat down by his bedside, but it is unclear whether mr. scalise was conscious at the time. afterwards, president tweeted said just left the hospital.

representative steve scalise one of the truly great people is in very tough shape. heat p is a real fighter. pray for steve another one of the wounded, zach barth who is an aid to congressman roger williams was shot through the calf and remarkably, he was back at work in the capital today. i know you had a chance to speak to him on fox and friends this morning, here's what he had to say. >> i saw him turn his guns towards me and it started popping all around me. he hit me in my leg and at that point, my adrenaline is pumping and my fight or flight reflex is taking control. i decided if i want to live, i need to get to better cover so i y life. i go into the dugout and i

jumped in and jumped into the arms of the congressman. >> meanwhile, family members of matt micah who is the head of government relations for tyson foods say that he was shot multiple times. he remains in intensive care and critical condition at george washington university hospital. we know the entire speech anyone family as well as his aides will be at tonight's baseball game. it will be an incredibly emotional experience for all. >> sandra: thank you. meanwhile, we're learning more about the shooter and his violent past. james hodgkinson's arrest record includes a history of domestic violence. the 66-year-old home inspector was also a bernie sanders supporter who raged against republicans and president trump on his facebook page. in one post back in march, hodgkinson writing quote trump has destroyed our democracy, it's time to destroy trump and company. catherine herridge is live with brand-new details.

>> thank you. we are hearing from the suspect for the first time in his own words with his 2011 interview at an occupy protest in st. louis shot by fox affiliate. >> 99% are getting pushed around in the 1% are not giving a [bleep] >> the suspect bearing the name james hodgkinson. an illinois newspaper reports of the suspect sent letters to the editor a year after that rally and he railed against republicans and tax policies writing i have never said life stocks, only through policies of republicans. a shotgun and a rifle were recovered. there was an incident in illinois last month and only stopped after the police were called in. >> i yelled at him, i said hey, stop shooting over there. there's houses over there.

i didn't get any kind of a notion from him that he heard me or that he even cared. >> he came out and you didn't tell him stop. >> now, we told him about the safety risks and there are homes around here and we wanted to make sure that he understood all that and once he did, he stopped. >> illinois newspaper also reports he had a violent history with 12006 interested, but it was not enough to block him from legally owning a firearm. >> sandra: the shooting now putting a spotlight on the political rhetoric that has grown increasingly ugly since the presidential election. just hours after the incident, democratic senator sherrod brown of ohio appeared to place some blame on president trump saying he's dividing the country. >> i don't blame the president for this, i don't blame any single political figure for this, but for whatever reason,

unleashing our country is anti-semitism or race talk. the president should also be the healer in chief. and so this president has chosen to divide and name call and that doesn't serve his country. it probably doesn't even serve tenants interests. >> sandra: meantime, chris collins pointed his finger at democrats and their anger toward the g.o.p. this morning, the new york lawmaker walking back his remarks saying both sides, including himself need to tone it down. watch. >> i'm willing to admit that was wrong for me to say. that was going in the wrong direction and i, myself and going to try to tone down some of my rhetoric and i would invite my democrat friends to do likewise and i think all of us have now had a chance to reflect, look in the mirror and say, it's on all of us and it is a 24/7 news cycle and elections

are coming up next year. it's been an especially ugly six months. >> sandra: many lawmakers making impassioned pleas for unity after the shooting reminding americans that we are all in this together. >> before this house returns to its business, let's just slow down and reflect to think about how we are all being tested right now. because we are being tested right now. i ask each of you to join me to resolve to come together to lift each other up and to show the country, to show the world that we are one house, the people's house, united in our humanity. >> we need to have the states respect for each other whether we disagree politically, whether we have a different religion or race. >> we have the right to be free

in this country. at the right to elect our leaders. we have the right to disagree with policies. but we have to stop the rhetoric that we've seen. these are the things that have to stop. this is a result of political rhetorical terrorism. that has to stop. >> what's happened in our country over the last several years and even more so last year is the level of vitriol and harsh rhetoric that has escalated to a point but i've never seen in my life. the thought that anyone would take someone else's life or try to is just wrong. and to target a member of congress particularly in this baseball practice situation is terrible. >> sandra: that left congressman, ron barber of arizona served as an aide to gabby giffords and was with her when she was severely injured in a shooting back in 2011. he was also hurt in that attack. for the most part, the word is

unity, a lot of lawmakers discussing that today. as they come together moment? >> brian: i think it's possible and here's why. i know we've had horrific shootings with more casualties, but never this close, never directly targeted at a party. you can say, i wonder what he was up to when he shot him, he asked the shooter, who is practicing? where are they doing it? what are they doing it for? that's because they were targeted because of their party and they were targeted by this guy because he's a bernie sanders supporter. the fact that a few miles away is where everybody works, it drives things home. i think things could change and i think if madonna got up tomorrow and said let's bring the white house down, i think if you heard or saw kathy griffin holding a picture of donald trump's alleged decapitated head, i think both parties would jump on and say

enough of this. 48 hours ago, the answer would have been who cares? >> sandra: sherrod brown, we all had a reaction watching him essay as an attempt to point fingers, but then he went on to point fingers at donald trump for inciting this environment. >> jessica: i would add that mark stanford said donald trump is partly to blame for this. it is a unity moment. i would ask that what happened to gabby giffords should have also been a unity moment at this level. i understand that no one said to her are you a democrat and then shot her. certainly it was a political scene, there are political aides everywhere. it's worrisome to me that we are still not any better. having seen this in 2011 and knowing of other shootings that you alluded to. if we don't fix things post a new town, i don't know what we are as a country. >> kennedy: is not just the shootings.

as the convenient gun-control narrative. you have a guy and is not necessarily donald trump, is not necessarily bernie sanders. he had millions of followers who engaged in intense rhetoric and political passion on social media. they don't go out and target people and when someone does target people and what it is politically motivated and when he is trying to change behavior, that is terrorism. there are two different things. one, the psychotic actions of a mentally unstable person. the only reason this wasn't a murderer is because that guy was a horrible shot. that's one thing. the political rhetoric and being curious about other people's political backgrounds and how they came to their opinions, that's different. >> trish: there's a big

difference between political passion and caring about a particular point of view and getting that viewpoint across and then what we've crossed over into which is losing all sense of decency and humanity, what kathy griffin did. weeks earlier, john griffin had said all the republican party members on capitol hill should be lined up and shot. that is crossing a line. it's no longer about the political ideas at stake and it's turned into something else where we are losing our sense of who we are as a country. >> sandra: i want to bring in these headlines. these are running in major papers. "the new york times" ," americas legal politics. "los angeles times" ." reaction to shooting for a nation a dozen district disagree, it hates. boston globe after alexandria shooting, both parties all the nation a more civil political dialogue. >> jessica: i know we are

going to discuss the gun problem. i don't know when the time is her to talk about it. we should perennially be talking about it until stricter laws. as you said, just last week, donald trump, jr., came on this network and he said democrats weren't even humans. that's coming from the president's son. listen than just a liberal problem. bringing up the rhetoric point, we need that from the white house as well. >> kennedy: this guy would have killed a people with a fire bomb if he didn't have access to weapons. >> brian: i would like to add this. i think fundamentally, our politics are all or nothing right now. you win coming of the white house coming of the house committee of the senate. you're losing for at least two years, maybe four years. it's a horrible feeling for a competitive country. the whole compromise thing is out the window. you compromise, you lose your job. if you have tax reform and you

bring in some democratic principles, you sold out your soul. i think there might be something to, we won't get as much, but maybe we don't have to get zero. right now, mitch mcconnell, the only way he can get obamacare gone is to do it behind closed doors. it might be the work of genius. it may be fantastic, but it just creates anger because everyone is blocked out. coming across the aisle as your publicans coming together with republicans. >> kennedy: the other thing to your point is if you express any sort of interest in the idea is that the president is talking about, you do someone with has an opposing viewpoint, you have an enemy >> trish: kevin plank came out and said i like so many ideas that donald trump is posing.

i think there are plenty of ceos who are reluctant to say yes, we need tax reform. they don't want to say it because they are fearful that the other side is going to come after them in a way that we haven't seen. >> sandra: after the president said he was coming out of the paris accord, the corporate advisors to the president, several of them pulled out. >> brian: he can't possibly be someone -- >> jessica: they think it's a radically bad decision. there's just us and aside. >> sandra: i can speak for all of us when we say our thoughts and prayers are with congressman

scalise. meantime, this didn't take long. it took just three hours i forgot today's shooting a top democrat to call for more gun control. whether this was the right time, we debate that. plus, president trump firing back after was reported that the special counsel overseeing the russian investigation is looking into whether he tried to obstruct justice. the president's lawyer pointing out that the story comes from yet another illegal leak. questions about the special counsel's neutrality. after the show, he can join our live chat by clicking the overtime tab at foxnews.com/unnumbered. or go to facebook.com. brian kilmeade, you're going to stick around, right? >> brian: if you want. >> sandra: you can also tweet us if you want. you don't let anything

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hey you've gotta see this. cno.n. alright, see you down there. mmm, fine. okay, what do we got? okay, watch this. do the thing we talked about. what do we say? it's going to be great. watch. remember what we were just saying? go irish! see that? yes! i'm gonna just go back to doing what i was doing. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. >> kennedy: it didn't take long after yesterday's shooting attack on a gathering of g.o.p. lawmakers for the ongoing debate over guns to be renewed. just three hours after news broke that congressman steve scalise and others had been sho shot. governor terry mccullough, democrat of virginia and called

for greater gun restrictions, watch. the >> there are too many guns on the street. we lose 93 million americans a day to gun violence. background checks shutting down loopholes. it's not just about politicians. we worry about this every day. >> 93 individuals a day. >> kennedy: we'd be out of people by the weekend. other democrats steered clear of that debate, including gun-control advocates like senator chuck schumer. watch. >> i was absolutely shaken by the news of the shooting early this morning at the baseball field and alexandria. many of my friends and colleagues were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game, an event that brings us together each year. let us pray that they and any others who are injured are able to recover quickly. this morning is the most

sobering reminder of how thankful we should be for the service of the capitol police force. >> kennedy: meantime, barry lowder malcolm says congress should explore allowing congress to carry weapons to defend themselves. he's saying he's introducing a bill that would allow reciprocity for those who have concealed carry permits from their home states. roger williams who was also there says he would have been much more comfortable with a gun at the field. >> we were sitting ducks. we had nothing to fight back with but bats if it got to that. >> would you feel safer if you had the ability to carry a gun? >> remember two things. first of all, i'm for the second amendment. i'm a guy from texas. yes, i would have felt more comfortable. >> kennedy: he's absolutely right about that.

brian, all of those people would be dead if it weren't for guns. guns saved people's lives yesterday. >> brian: right. senator schumer gets it and here's why. he knows his colleagues would have spelt helpless. i can't believe this guy has a gun. their instincts are i can play by don't have a gun to shoot back because for the most part, you want to be able to defend yourself, be of no shot against these cowards who want to stand back with a rifle but they obviously don't know how to use and take you out. for the most part, these assassins don't want to be in these situations. they like massacres. if they knew there was a chance, they probably would not have picked that. >> kennedy: lake gun free zones often times which is with a target. jessica, it is an inappropriate time to have this discussion because we don't know where he got the gun.

a lot of people are pointing out that there are less gun laws in virginia as though somehow that would go in to his factoring critical thinking. >> jessica: first, it's not the right time, but it's also the right time to be talking about a because were used. i was looking at some statistics that were interesting. in the last year, there've been 300,000 guns that were purchased without a background check according to the fbi. this was after all the discussion posts. that weighs heavy on all of us just as newtown does with gabby giffords. we didn't even talk about that shooting at happen at the ups facility because we are all paying attention to steve scalise. this is a daily occurrence. there is a unity moment that needs to be had, but it's also

important to talk about the weapon of choice that is being used in these crimes by lunatics who can get their hands on them. >> kennedy: especially in the u.k., yeah, we sought at ohio state rake i tried to ram his car into a bunch of people. >> trish: in other words, we need to be talking about how we improve the political conversation and basically don't encourage these crazies to do what they're doing. the whole gun control issues -- live free or die new hampshire. we were not a big gun family, but i knew a lot of people that were. they hunted. you had a right to protect yourself. that's all good. i'm with you and that we can move more in the way of background checks, nothing wrong with that. when you get a driver's license, you need to go through a certain amount of training, we can do the same thing with guns, but this is not the nine

stomach time to be talking about this. >> sandra: the question goes back to do you think this man, based on everything we learned about his past and his strong political words that he is used, do away with trump and company, do you think he would have carried out this act if he didn't have a gun esses weapon? the >> jessica: he would have done something. this is a man clearly teetering on the edge. to only focus on this one incident ignores the countless lives, not 93 million a day, but 93 a day that are taken as a result of gun violence. >> kennedy: to your point about drivers licenses, having a driver's license in the car is not implicit in the constitutio constitution. the plot thickens of the russia probe amid reports that robert

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♪ >> sandra: the russia probe may be taking a new turn as "the washington post" reports of the special counsel is now looking into whether president trump attempted to obstruct justice. previously the focus was on russian meddling in the election, but now it appears to have expanded. special counsel robert mueller's team is not commenting, but the president is firing back on twitter today writing this. they made up a phony collusion with the russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. nice. he also tweeted, you are witnessing the single greatest witch hunt in american political history led by some very bad and conflicted people.

the president's lawyer also releasing a statement saying this. the fbi leak on information regard and the president is the greatest inexcusable and still illegal. your thoughts? >> brian: they are trying to corroborate what comey said. he said, can you tell everybody that there is no there there when it comes to collusion and michael flynn is a good guy and back off. i'm struck by the fact that we thought with robert mueller in place, the liquid stop. this is not confirmed by "the new york times" or cnn here they seem to exchange breaking stories. they say five people briefed on the interview said the former deputy nsa chairman coates as well as rogers are going to be interviewed sometime either this week or next week about what it was like one-on-one with trump. newt gingrich is among the

people whose hair is on fire with this. carl rolled warm this. >> sandra: karl rove in "the wall street journal" says still what trump has created, he has created a potential problem for himself when he said that he is willing to speak under oath to give his version of events. he said 100% willing to. >> trish: i'm sure his lawyers are going oh, no. you start opening up this can of worms. he's got a real problem and that he's a fighter. -- the outsider. he's coming into a system that is not very welcoming. doesn't want him there. you've got a bunch of elites basically at their cocktail parties, he's crashing it.

maybe, if you wanted to play their game, he would back off a little, he would get the lay of the land, he would let some of the surrogates do the dirty work, but that's on his style. he is a full on, i'm going to make changes. they don't like it, they don't like him and you're going to get more and more leaks. someone said the other day, the problem is comey was so well-liked at the fbi that you run the risk if you're attacking comey, you run the risk that all of those troops, the rank and file that supported comey, they're going to be leaking in any which way they can and none of them like him. >> brian: there's going to be a mutiny last fall because of what comey did in july. >> sandra: the witch hunt is what he's calling it. >> jessica: there are people who are interested in getting in the bottom of this. i find it amazing when donald trump uses that term after what he did on the birther front or the central park five. this is someone who catapulted

themselves into the political stratosphere with a witch hunt vis-a-vis barack obama. he is digging holes for himself that may not necessarily be dug. he should back off of the spirit of flip-flopping from newt gingrich you thought bob mueller was the greatest thing to happen now suddenly -- >> kennedy: clarify that because there's a big difference between donald trump in 2008 or 2014, throwing rhetorical grenades in the intelligence community having the ability to spy on you and all of your operatives during the campaign and then systematically leaking that information. there's a very big difference between being a private citizen who says incendiary things and being the president of the united states. people who have political agendas, who are supposed to be a political and have no problem, as james comey showed under oath compromising that for their own political agenda.

>> jessica: i understand and there are two topics. there is a leaking issue and we should not have as many leaks as we do, but now that we have james comey and even donald trump's own son corroborating the fact that he did want the flynn thing to go away, james comey feels he was fired because of the russia thing which is what he said to lester holtz. that's not inventive. that's not conspiracy theory. these are from their mouths. >> brian: i hope you can let go of flynn is a lot different from you better let go. >> jessica: there are justice cases who have hung on the i hope frederick. it's not just of palling around. if he thought it was that, he needs to understand the office and he's holding. >> brian: he's not a lawyer. >> sandra: both sides of the political aisle praising president trump for his tenor in time of crisis. dozens mark a change and cannot help men to the deep partisan

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♪ >> everyone who serves in our nation's capital is here because above all, they love our country. we can all agree that we are blessed to be americans, that our children deserve to grow up in a nation of safety and peace, and that we are strongest when we are unified and when we work together for the common good. please take a moment today to cherish those you love and always remember those who serve and keep us safe. >> kennedy: president trump receiving praise from both sides of the political aisle for his temperament following yesterday's shooting of

congressman steve scalise. today the president visited the wounded and last night, he visited scalise in his hospital where he continues to be treated. earlier in the day, he delivered some pathetic remarks regarding the incident from the white house. it looks like trump and his team took the shooting seriously and acted accordingly. it had all the right notes when he issued a call for unity. republicans agree. he said i think he set the right tone and message. for all of us to come together and support of those who were injured in this tragic shooting. the president has an important role at times like this to be the comforter in chief for the nation. did he fulfill that role? >> brian: absolutely. he's at his element in a crisis

situation. i thought back to robert kraft who said he is one of his many friends and his wife dies of cancer. in situations like this, they were right there this afternoon and in the hospital. >> kennedy: what was nice about it, i thought the president was both optimistic and unifying and those were two really important things because often times after shootings like this, president obama would come out and give the country a finger waving gun-control lecture which i thought was often times tone-deaf and inappropriate. >> jessica: i thought donald trump did a great job yesterday. there've been a few moments drop a campaign in his presidency where i've had to take off my partisan hat and give it up to him. what you do see there as he is not a partisan.

he hijacked the republican party to get here anyway. he may be a more left-leaning independent. i thought he struck all the right tones and i was happy to see those politicians. hats off. >> trish: very good moment for him. when the country is dealing with tragedy and dealing with crisis, they need to look to a leader. they need to look to the president for some comfort and he definitely put that forth yesterday and we should commend him for all he's doing. >> jessica: it's been a few days, but it's wonderful to see her with him more. >> sandra: it's also a moment where you think to yourself, how many days are we at? it's unbelievable to think what

has happened on his watch. so soon, so early. >> brian: this is a real domestic crisis that he has. yesterday, the shooting and today, it's all about steve's police. >> kennedy: the good news is, the baseball game is going on tonight as planned. lawmakers say the annual charity event is more important now than ever because it creates unity, but will that unity last when the game is over? >> we do hope people come to the game tonight. i hope it could be full. it goes to charity. it's the right time to play this game. some people thought we should not, but the speaker ryan and i we need to play this game, it's baseball, it's america you don't let anything

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>> sandra: more "outnumbered" in just a moment, but first to jon scott without coming up in a second hour of "happening now." >> jon: and out next hour, the very latest on the medical condition of the steve scalise the horrible attack on republicans practicing for tomorrow's bipartisan game. howard kurtz is here on the mainstream media reaction to yesterday's shooting in virginia

plus breaking news on a navy fighter jet with details of the long-awaited review on some of the problems. that's ahead head on happening now. >> sandra: the baseball game is going to continue. they say it's more important than ever to show unity between these two parties. they say the charity event is one way to do that. >> we need to play. this is a game has been going on for over a hundred years. people that want to destroy our lives and livelihood in america, they win if we give in. >> you know some buddies kid, somebody's spouse, played baseball with them, you see them at the gym and you talk with them they are. it's different. >> when my son jack was born, i

was chairman of the energy and commerce committee. he got as many presents from the democrats as he did from the republicans. and he still had some of those. >> sandra: the democrats also invited the republican team members for a pregame dinner at the democratic club last night. the game will go on. >> brian: and will and i'll add something else to the charity list. there were going to make about $650,000 they thought, but now they're adding the following police officers fund. the female was the one who took out the shooter in the end. i think that's going to be important and it's also good that they're wearing jerseys in honor of steve scalise. >> kennedy: women are better shots

speak of the gone out there and use the opportunities on stuff they agree on. >> >> i think infrastructure is going simultaneously. >> i think we can get everyone on the same page, there is something there.

>> so there is an opportunity to get the compromise going. tax reform, you guys know that we need tax reform. that's another one where you can get bipartisan support. no one likes the fact that you have $2 trillion sitting overseas, working for other countries economies instead of hours. >> let me bring this back to tonight and this game will go on. you are suggesting that we wake up tomorrow, it kind of goes away. how can they keep this going? >> i think they can talk about the issues in a civilized manner but really make an effort, there are pieces of every agenda item that democrats and republicans to agree on. i don't think that's necessarily true, but you can pick and choose things out of that. the leadership is approach the other side with those items. let's start there and go now.

>> the president says he's going to back the generals in afghanistan. >> it has to not be something that gets you in trouble. you brought this up earlier and i felt so terrible, that the world couldn't even have a conversation with neil gorsuch because the far left was getting on him about it. this was on both sides. it's got to stop. >> the game goes on. we are "outnumbered," just a moment. (woman) when you have type 2 diabetes,

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>> thank you to brian for your presence today. >> it was my honor to be here. >> keep it right here for "outnumbered" over time and we will be back at noon tomorrow. "happening now" starts right now. >> we start with a fox news alert from pennsylvania. voters in the bill cosby assault trial cannot reach up verdict. speak to the jury has been trying to reach a verdict for four days now on charges that could put the once beloved comedian in prison for the restf his life. we are covering all the news, "happening now" ." >> an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. >> jon: lawmakers on both sides of the aisle call for unity after the horrific shooting of steve scalise and for others on a baseball