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>> there is blaming and a look for who is the villain. bernie sanders to ghastly attempted murder. >> this guy was essentially radicalized by the left-wing media. >> if people are using rhetoric like this president is a traitor and the republicans are treasonous and destroying our country, that might give the unhinged among you an excuse or target as it were. howie: the shooter was a bernie sanders volunteer who loved rachel maddow. "the washington post" reports bob mueller is examining obstruction of justice allegations against the president.

trump launches a media offensive against the special counsel. >> it's particularly a nightmare for the president of the united states. >> if president trump fires robert mueller he might as well hire a sky writer to fly over the white news, "i am guilty." howie: is the speculation getting way ahead of the facts? >> they call you the most paranoid man in america. is that true? >> absolutely not. a paranoid person would be hiding out in their house. i go out there and battle black lives matter and the communists. howie: should she give a platform to a man hop calls the sandy hook shooting a hoax.

many. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." there have been some calls for unity after the shooting across the river. steve scalise is upgraded to serious condition. joining us to analyze the coverage. guy benson, editor of townhall.com. and michael tomasky of the daily beast and erin mcpike. is there too much finger pointing in the media? guy: yes. especially after a horrible event like this. i think people want to associate

speech they don't like with acts of violence. they did that after gabby giffords and i think it's wrong. erin: there was a lot of nasty and hateful rhetoric about president obama the entirety of his 8 years in office. michael: i remember newt gingrich trying to blame the woman who drowned her two kids on the democratic party. but the politicians by and large have been pretty responsible this last week. howie: when you look at what they say routiney when they get invited on talk shows, let, go back to the dead killer. the hodgkinson guy who despises republicans.

it doesn't mean bernie sanders and rachel maddow are responsible. but some republicans say this is typical of liberal hate. guy: we remember tucson very well. i covered that closely and recall the media coverage. immediately the left' narrative was palin is responsible, right-wing hate is responsible. her shooter was a schizophrenic who was not political and not trite wing. the "new york times" repeated that this week and had to correct themselves. howie: i wrote that day it was ridiculous to blame sarah palin. but the point purchase making is beth sides are perfectly willing to engage in extreme rhetoric.

at the time of the gifford shooting there was a bull's-eye thing that made people jump to conclusion. but there was less of this i thought this time. i think there was less of it than there has been. >> i think the left and the media is much more willing to run with the narrative that right wingers are at fault. the media moved on, let's have a nice time at the congressional baseball game. if this was a right-winger shooting a democratic congressman we would with having a different conversation. howie: people spewing opinions online and television. is this what sells?

is this what gets ratings? erin: i'm not sure i want to go down that road. i think because the shooter targeted part of the members of congress there is an element to that. but in so many mass shootings there are political angles. but you have shooters trying to make a political statement. what bothered me in the days followed is that a number of reporters asked about increased security for members of congress. i think if i were a parent of a child in newtown or a patron of the nightclub in orlando. i would have been concerned that they focused on security for members of congress. on the right there is anger the press always goes to gun control. but we need to ask questions about the intersection between

access to guns and mental health. howie: right after the shooting paul ryan in the house joined by nancy pelosi gave unifying statements. ryan talking about an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. but the next day nancy pelosi talked about a case where she faced a stalker who made death threats. >> one of the people went to jail for threats to me eventually when they finally found him because he was resourceful in hiding. when he was being tried his mother said he just watches too much fox tv. howie: his mother said he watched fox so somehow he watches fox. guy: she also went on to say in this whole context she thinks this all got bad and really got worse starting in the 90s when republicans decided to go down

the route of personal destruction. it will be interesting to hear what robert bourke or clarence tom fast would say about that. howie: steve king very conservative called a radio station. he contributed some of the blame to barack obama. michael: that's to use a trump word, sad. you know, there is way too much of this. and both sides do it at times. and it just didn't happen. howie: a writer at the "huffington post," says in the wake of the shooting what's more harmful, putting millions already on the margins more at risk by draconian policies or shooting a racist lawmaker in

the hip? erin: i think we are getting caught up in some of the same patterns. the congressman mike faust, his office received 14 messages in the last 6 months from the shooter saying they were angry messages. but he said they never had any threats. i would like to see those messages. if they saw these things why didn't they do a better job trying to prevent it before. he said there were no threats. but if you are getting angry messages. guy: congress gets angry messages every day. erin: shouldn't we do a better job of look into these angry messages? guy: if it goes into threat territory, yes.

erin: we are giving him cover. howie: the reason i'm doing this, i think it's important to call out people who politicized the tragedy. this is joy reid. she puts up a tweet who says rep scalise was shot by a white man and saved by a black lesbian police officer. he's still in the hospital, but isn't this wildly inappropriate? guy: it's a bad look for miss reid. the police officer, not thinking about her sexual identity or her race did her job with her heroism and saved a member of congress. to go down the route there that she was there is really

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howie: a "washington post" story said special counsel mueller will interview dan coats about their conversations with the president on the russia probe. the president said they found zero proof now they go for obstruction of justice on the phoney tory, nice. he said the investigation is being led by bad and conflicted people. people are saying the president is under criminal investigation which has not been true before. guy: since we are talking about the media, i would want to point out, the swiftness with which the media pivoted back to the top story being russia, when you

had a member of republican leadership fighting for his life after an act of political terrorism. it was two days, then back to russia as the top story. howie: it wasn't two days. the very night of the story msnbc put it on some shows near the top. guy: i'm not saying they shouldn't have covered it. but it wasn't the top story. howie: wasn't it inevitable trump would talk to top officials. erin: donald trump himself made it an even bigger story by going on to twitter. i'm not one who thinks he shouldn't go on twitter. he's speaking to the people and giving us a lot of material every day. but he made this a bigger story.

howie: let's talk about what seems to be a somewhat orchestrated counter-attack by mueller and his allies. >> will the president promise not to order the deputy attorney general to fire robert mueller? >> the president of the youth as we all know is a unitary executive. >> i think he's considering perhaps terminating the special counsel. i think he's weighing that option. howie: this started a lot to talk about, is the president going to fire bob mueller. michael: the basis of it originally was it seemed trump was not under investigation. that was the just of ann -- that was the gist of ann coulter's

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investigation into michael flynn. howie: when this happens, you are saying the president's tweets fuel it. erin: absolutely. i think it was probably in poor judgment in this situation for the president to get on twitter as quickly as he did. he might have considered waiting a day or two. howie: when he's talking about badly conflicted people, he's talking about mueller and rosenstein. erin: when he was referring to rosenstein in that tweet, which was clear, he's the one who asked for the memo from rosenstein to fire james comey. howie: erin mcpike, rich lowry and -- guy benson and michael tomasky. thank you.

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howie: susan ferrechio, chief correspondent for the washington examiner. was it hard for you personally to cover this? you know steve scalise and the lawmakers. susan: we see the congressmen and the agents who walk along with them. we know them by their first names. we stand in the hallways with them. these are we'll we work with every single day. howie: were you upset? was it hard to separate your emotions? susan: it was shocking. when you compare it to the

shooting of gabby giffords. here you have the lawmakers returning to the capitol right from the baseball field. and there we all were with our cameras and microphones. we are were all stunned listening to them recount what happened. howie: everybody was in a state of shock understandably. playing baseball on a nice morning in virginia, how did you get your information in those first hours when everything was a blur. it wasn't clear how many people had been shot? >> we got it straight from the lawmakers which made it so fascinating to cover. they talked about what happened. first we thought one member was shot, then we learned he only injured his foot, and the only nebraska injured was steve scalise. it took a while to ferret out who was injured from a bullet and who was hurt dodge a bullet.

we got a first-hand account. you don't usually get that right away. howie: you are waiting for the police news conference. susan: we got the information from them which made it raw. they felt as though they just donged death. they talked about if the gunman had turned a corner into the dugout many more of them would have been shot because they were cornered. howie: except for the brave cap toll police officers who were there. a couple nights later they carried on with the charity baseball game, 25,000 people showed up in nationals park. how much have you detected a tone from these members that they want to lower the

temperature and how long will it last? susan: particularly the people who were on the field with the bullets coming at them. they want to create a more civil tone in congress. the democrats are in the minority. they don't have legislative control. they are going to be the ones who are the most critical and most vocal. they are too far apart on what they want to accomplish. howie: have the political fights but maybe in a slightly more civil way. thank you for that first-hand account. coming up, rich lowry on the media fallout of the shootings and the widening investigation of president trump. bill cosby gets a mistrial. was he convicted by the press? mmmm... ugh. nothing spoils a moment like heartburn. try new alka-seltzer ultra strength heartburn relief chews. it's fast, powerful relief with no chalky taste.

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howie: let's take a deeper dive into the shooting at the baseball field. rich, some voices in politics are saying because the shooter hated republicans and targeted republicans, that the violence is somehow linked to harsh or liberal rhetoric. rich: i don't buy that. i don't like it when the liberals do that to the right. there was nothing bernie sanders said that would lead any rational person to go and massacre republicans. we should treat people with respect and recognize every individual as decency, we are all americans. but the idea that any political receipt rick beyond going say

and shoot these people i really reject. howie: the whole guilt by association efforts by extreme partisans on both sides drives me crazy, especially in a time of tragedy. but we have reached a point where so many say these things and do you think the media rewards that? rich: pretty much anyone can have a soap box which means there are fewer guard rails. but you look back to recent history. the democrats considered george w. bush a budding tyrant. republicans considered barack obama a budding tyrant. democrats consider donald trump a budding tyrant. this is the idiom of american

politics. it's part of having a robust and open constant argument about how we should run our country. i don't think any of that necessarily leads anyone to go out and shoot people. it just doesn't. >> the idea these are all potential tyrants seems to me to fall into the media/political warfare techniques. they are not just people, you don't like them personally, but they are evil. they are a threat to democracy, and it would be nice if we could tone that down. but as you say, in the age of twitter, it gets picked up. rich: one thing that bothers me about the coverage. if this had been a trump supporter who committed such an act of violence, there wouldn't have been anything donald trump

could have said to convince the media he wasn't responsible. there has been and lot of discussion driven by this perpetrator's political views, but it hasn't been as thermonuclear as it would have been if he had been on the right side of the political spectrum. and then the story brp the shooting of gabby giffords had something to do with sarah palin. howie: "the washington post" reported that bob mueller is looking at jared kushner's business dealing. wouldn't any competent prosecutor be looking at a real estate guy who had contact with the russians? is this a routine part of an investigation, jared kushner's lawyer said it's standard

practice that somehow makes these screaming headlines. rich: i think it's more alarming than that. i think it's a bad sign that mueller's investigation is spreading beyond finding out whether the trump campaign collude with the russians. i believe people end up being indicted for financial wrongdoing that has zero connection to what was supposed to be the purpose of this investigation. howie: i would say the same thing, the headlines, mike penls has hired a lawyer. any top official who is going talk to the f.b.i. is going toll hire an attorney. the volume has been cranked up to 11. special pratt cuters sometimes expand their mandate. doesn't mueller in order to be

credible have to look into some of these things if that's the way he's being portrayed by the press. rich: it's always tempting, they have nothing else to do, to go until they find something, even if there is nothing on the original charge. the big problem i have on the media charge, it's focused so much on the so-called smoke. but when a story creates a lot of smoke like the "new york times" story about russian official and russian intelligence. you have james comey saying that's flat-out false. none 69 outlets who repeated that go back and say we are sorry we repeated the story, and some smoke left the room. we want everyone in america to do that. howie: comey didn't say exactly what was false. ahead, why the "new york times"

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cancel a show tonight "megyn kelly. she has been harshly criticized for giving jones platform. but megyn has strongly testified the segment to shine light on a controversial media figure. >> sandy hook, if the whole story is true, then i have to base what i said none of it is true. >> when you say parents fake their children's death people get very angry. >> they don't get angry about the iraqis that are dead from sanctions. >> that's a dodge. >> i made my statements even before the media picked up on it.

howie: here is the argument. alex jones is a conspiracy theorist who called 9/11 an inside job and called the sandy hook elementary shootings a hoax. why should nbc and megyn kelly give him a platform? dan: because he already has a platform and the president of the united states gave him a platform. you may dislike him and a lot of people do and rightly so. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't as a journalist want to question him and ask tough questions. the thing i'm amazed about is everybody is judging the megyn kelly interview before they have seen the interview. we haven't seen what they are putting on the air, yet everyone is going bananas on both sides. howie: alex jones with a bizarre twist friday kind of taking

control a little bit of the narrative by releasing some of the phone calls he had with megyn kelly when she was trying to book him for this interview. >> it's not going to be based on gotcha. >> i knew it was fraud, i knew it was a lie. howie: whatever the value of the interview, this is a full-blown spectacle. dan: they should have expected this. when you are interviewing alex jones you should expect every call you do with him, anything you say with him he will be recording. upon listening to what he released of megyn kelly's comments, i think she came across fine. we all know how the booking process works. and people end up trying to sweet talk people.

and a lot of people say some pretty embarrassing stuff. i didn't hear that from megyn kelly. in that sense it's kind of a win for her. >> what i find heartbreaking is the families of the sandy hook victims said alex jones has made their lives a living hell. the family of victorio soto, the teacher killed at the school writes this is about ratings and it's disgusting. given that impact on that community in connecticut, is this worth the doing? dan: i get it and as somebody who has covered legal stories and crime story for most of my career. i know how those families feel.

but i interviewed murderers for network television and it hasn't had this kind of response. for some reason we are treating the alex jones interview as a more sort of journalistic mine field than when we interview murderers or suspected murderers. howie: saddam hussein or o.j. simpson. and that's always controversial. but do you think it's something about megyn, nbc, the passion alex jones has that made this radioactive? dan: i think alex jones is stoking the fire. i think he want to get more attention for this. i think he's using every piece of the cow that he can and part of that versus him demanding that nbc not air the interview.

he hasn't seen the interview. what is he talking about? she even makes clear in the pre-interview she does with him, i'm going to have to ask you the tough questions. he makes it seem like he had no idea there would be tough questions. the only true winner from this is alex jones. megyn kelly is getting beaten up from both side on this. alex jones supporters are saying look how unfair you are. people on the left are saying how can you give him any time. >> we have a little bit of time left. but ultimately is this about nbc and megyn confronting alex jones about alleged falsehoods or is it about generating buzz and ratings for her magazine show?

dan: every magazine show is about both those things. the notion that the magazine show can't focus operating. of course, they did this in part because they thought alex jones would make good ratings. but i think it's a good interview for them to do. if she asks softball questions, criticize her. if they air an interview where she is letting him get away with softball questions, criticize her. i think the criticism is incredibly unfair before you see it. howie: nbc news says alex jones is trying to distract from and block the segment. that they want to offer insight i to the polarizing figure.

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howie: bill cosby's sexual assault trial ended with a hung jury. the comedian's wife put out a statement denouncing the lawyers and especially the media. >> how do you describe the media that continually disseminated omissions of truth for the

primary purpose at the expense of a human life. howie: carley, i said to you on last week's show the jury might fail to convict bill cosby. what do you make of camille cosby's statement? carley: i don't think the defense team wanted to remind jurors she was also a victim in this thing with bill cosby's extramarital activities. she called the media blatantly vicious entities that lie for the purpose of selling sensationalism. i feel for camille cosby. but the media were just reporting the facts. howie: that might be true in

this particular case. one of the reasons the jury might have been deadlocked is the accuser in the case made conflicting statement to the police early on. the coverage has been very negative, but his wife is only addressing this and not addressing the fact even if some of these women are exaggerating and making it up, the vast majority can't be. carley: the cosby team is calling this a victory saying his legacy is completely restored. i would pump the brakes on this because it was not an acquittal. and the district attorney said they will retry the case. his legacy is not going to be the cosby show or any of his comedy. it's a disturbing chapter of his

life. howie: it's hard to get cosby's side. let's switch to the julius caesar play with an actor stabbed to death. two sponsors pulled their funding from this production in new york, but the "new york times" is continuing to fund this play as free speech for the arts. carley: the "new york times" covering of the story has blown my mind. they have written several articles over the growing outrage over the play. they can sponsor whoever they want. i'm sure their audiences overlab. but they need to tell the audience that in advance.

it needs to be the opening line. the reader needs to know what they are going to read is biased and the publication has taken a side. howie: the front page story on this, inside the paper is in the 27th paragraph of a 28 paragraph story, the very controversy that was being covered. carley: it's pretty crazy. howie: next cosby trial i'll have you back. the "new york times" reviving the discredited story of the shooting of a congresswoman and getting it wrong. but when family members forget, trust angie's list to help. [ barks ] visit angieslist.com today.

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congressman scalise and four other people. it revised a discredited theory from six years ago when gabby giffords was shot. it said the killer was influenced bizarra palin. the "new york times" has run a correction. but the editors tried to blame right-wing. the "times" should have never published that. let us know what you think on facebook and twitter.

and you can download our podcasts. happy father's day, folks. back next sunday with the latest ""buzz." arthel: we begin with a fox news alert. military officials say the search for seven sailors are over after the divers make the discovery of a number of bodies inside the u.s.s. fitzgerald. this after it collide with a massive container ship off the coast of japan. rick: officials describe extensive damage. the crew had to fight to keep