>> jon: julie and i are back in an hour. "outnumbered" starts now. >> kennedy: this is a fox news alert on a high-stakes election going on right now in georgia. washington is watching. this is "outnumbered," i'm kennedy in here today, the cohost of after the bell on fox business network, melissa francis, chief legal correspondent, shannon bream is here as well as spn anchor, trish reagan and today's #oneluckyguy, he is the former trump transition committee

member and the founder of skybridge capital its anthony scaramucci and he is outnumbere outnumbered. >> anthony: great to be here. >> kennedy: you don't seem to disturb to be the man in the middle. this is the closely watched a special election is between jon ossoff and karen handel. at some of the voters hands. the latest polls show them locked in a dead heat to replace tom price. both parties are watching for clues of the shape of the 2018 midterms. president trump has been a very active player in the race tweeting this morning, karen handel for congress. she will fight for lower taxes, great health care, strong security, a hard worker who will never give up. oh today. and democrat jon ossoff who wants to raise her taxes to the highest level and is weak on crime and security doesn't even live in district. let's go to jonathan sarah.

he is live in atlanta. >> the campaign spending in this race is topping $50 million and that's because both parties are looking at this is a must-win election. if jon ossoff can win this district, which normally favors establishment republicans, it will serve as a blueprint for his party's efforts to retake congress during the 2018 midterms. if karen handel wins, the republicans will feel a little safer because many will be of outcome is a referendum on president trump and the g.o.p. in general. >> i was just with him and washington, d.c., and i believe he's making america great again. i believe that karen handel will help us. >> for me, it's more about the future. what's going on in our country personally i'm looking for

leadership. >> the record campaign flooding has flooded the airwaves with political ads, also if is positioning himself -- >> he stays focused on the issues in the six district. and more importantly, he went away from the theme of cannibal because he had to disinfect republicans in the district. the >> my opponent doesn't live here, doesn't share our values. he's raised millions outside of georgia from nancy pelosi and outsiders who just don't have our priorities. >> karen handel's ads have been trying to link her opponent to the more liberal wing of the democratic party. as this high-profile race plays out here in georgia, a much less expensive, lower profile race taking place in the fifth congressional district in south carolina. this is a race to fill the seat

of mick mulvaney who joined the trump administration as his budget director. >> kennedy: there are two races underway, but it is the one in georgia. anthony, we'll turn to you because it is a georgia race that has the nations attention. democrats are hoping it's a tipping point and it sends a big message to donors and their party, that they'll make big gains in 2018. >> anthony: it's tighter than i would like to see it. i do think that handel will win and all of the president's treating because you can see when he's cooperating his own tweets just by how he says certain things. i think this will not be the playbook for the future because you're not going to be spending $50 million on these races in 2018. i don't think that's going to happen. yes, it's a litmus test in some

ways, but i do believe that she will win and it will go back to the status quo. >> kennedy: and should be a more controlled margin for her. this is a traditionally republican district. mitt romney won by 24 points back in 2012. the president had a harder time. what is going to be the tipping point? the >> melissa: heat he'll make the point of a knitting campaign there and that's why it wasn't a huge victory for him. at the same time, to see so many come in. what in interesting opponent from a democrat side. he's so young. he can't actually vote for himself because he doesn't live there. i think that's so interesting. at the same time, it's amazing that it had to go to a runoff that it's that close. i would argue, that the country we are in right now. now i throw away the polls when

you look how it's going to go. i do think it's about the mood of the country. we are almost perfectly divided right now. >> kennedy: how much of an impact would have in the republican party if karen handel wins? the >> trish: donald trump has a base that cares. if she doesn't, it's going to be a hold of the game. it will be a massive wake-up call for all republicans to say we need to get on board, we need to come together because the only way to fight the dems is to do this with some unity. i don't think it will come to that. i think were going to see a lot of people come out for her. >> kennedy: is that a

galvanizing factor because there is a group that used the shooting in a campaign ad. >> trish: you hate to see that. you hate to see them playing the politics of all that, but i do think there are a lot of people in this country that feel if they are a conservative, their back is up against the wall. you have to go and vote for handel if you want the republican party to have a voice. push comes to shove, i think she gets it. you're right, anthony, they should not be here at this point in the game. >> shannon: democrats in a special elections have been outpacing when hillary clinton did in that particular district. we know that the president won the district by less than two points. >> kennedy: a lot of these democrats have been outperforming her and i don't know if it's so much about an antitrust movement as it is about her.

>> shannon: we are seeing a lot of early voting in first-time voters registering which is a big boot to him. you don't see a lot of 65 real conservatives going out to vote early. that would seem to bode well for him as well. you think about what she has been through, how long this district has been held by republicans, it's generally reliable as going to be all about turnout. those early vote numbers are very high, but think about all the outside money that's put in. $26 million from groups outside the state of georgia. >> anthony: the other thing i don't like about the race is he is using the presidents playbook. he's coming in as an outsider, he's galvanizing a group of people that feel they are disaffected and he's grating a little bit of a movement down there and she is a re-candidate. i don't think he is not strong, but it's a combination of her

weakness and his freshness is making it so close. i think is going to lose, but it's interesting that he is adapted as a democrat many of the elements of the president's successful campaign strategy. >> kennedy: here's the thing about him. i don't know if he is the messiah. i don't think he is the great savior of the party, i don't think he's a particularly political holy interesting person. if you were, if he had a deep well, he would have won the election in the first place. he was two percentage points away from running the seat outright. >> anthony: i agree and i'm on a democratic strategist, but let me tell you, it's an interesting playbook. their next presidential nominee will likely have a footprint that's similar. an outsider, maybe howard sholes. it will be an outsider with a fresher message. >> kennedy: if ossoff wins and

he has run on an antitrust platform, what does that say to the bernie sanders and elizabeth warren's of the democratic party? do they have to lie about that part of the playbook? >> melissa: i would send a strong signal because here you see somebody who's pushing this idea, they're young, they are fresh, they are moderate. we've had that whole discourse going and this is always what happens. do you go to the extreme side, do you go center? he feels like, at least from what he saying, people take issue with his issues to say that he's like this, but he comes across as moderate. he talked about how i can work with people from both side of the aisle. he's so young. i don't know. not that he is the one that would go forward, but he may be that mold the people try to cast themselves after. even if he loses, it's very close. >> kennedy: something here resonated and perhaps they will replicate that. of course, you see forests

officer to everyone is in vegas on assignment. all of our coverage doesn't stop here. the race in south carolina, it's happening all day and into tonight as we get closer to the final tally. bret baier will host a late addition of special report at 11:00 p.m. eastern. that's right here on the fox news channel. republicans are pushing hard for a vote on health care before that july 4th recess. the dems are trying hard to gum up the work. whether the g.o.p. will get it done and what to expect if they do. plus, the american college student held prisoner and north korea for 17 months is dead less than a week after he was returned home.

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the senate's are planning to vote lawmakers are executing the tax for the bill this week. democrats went to the bill last night holding on to protest the gop's closed-door negotiations. chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell when added over how much time lawmakers are actually going to have to review the bill. >> will it be available to us in the public more than ten hours before we have to vote for it? since our republican leader has said that there'll be plenty of time for a process where people can make amendments. any time to prepare those amendments. >> i think we will have ample opportunity to read an amendment bill. the >> will be more than ten hours was mark >> will have ample opportunity to read the memo bill. >> i rest my case. >> shannon: democrats will not give it a chance to mentor was in the bill. >> this subject has been very partisan from the beginning.

not a single republican voted for the bill and our friends on the other side made it perfectly clear that no democrats will be voting to replace it. >> shannon: with that in mind, republicans need to keep together their coalition and that's going to be a heavy lift. we know there are all kinds of things that they are fighting over. they have to stay at 50 so they have that tiebreaker if they need it. >> melissa: in terms of their own strategy, this is a smart way to do it. it sounds like they have tried to include a lot of different factions of the table as much as possible. the more you hear democrats complain, the more effective the strategy is. it seems like they're trying to get together something so they can walk out and get it across. it's up to the people in the room if they can really get that

done. and terms of the strategy, this does seem to be the best one. >> anthony: i love the strategy, but the strategy will only work if they hold the coalition. one of the big challenges i have had, i'm a fellow republican, is that for some reason we allow our petite ideological businesses to get in the way and cause a civil war within the community. it is in the best interest of the president and the best interest of the country to get this bill passed. i'm hoping the strategy will work. >> shannon: with that in mind, we have a letter and they are saying what we are hearing that you're negotiating in the senate, that's endangering whether we're going to vote for it. now those guys are saying if you do these four or five things, we can vote for it. >> trish: americans and sundry publicans there because they want repeal and replace so they have to deliver on repeal and replace or they're going to be

in trouble. that's the reality of this situation. >> anthony: i hope they're listening. >> trish: the democrats have made it very clear, they're not going to vote for this, it doesn't matter what you give them. and some ways, they've taken themselves out of the equation. chuck schumer can ask for all the hours he wants. he and fellow dems have taken themselves out of the equation. >> anthony: they need it repaired and replaced or repealed and replaced. know it's failing. >> shannon: this will be out there for republicans under pressure. this is how the choice is spelled out. >> senator heller, when this happens, she is in thinking about the health care bill in congress. she isn't thinking that it will force between filling his prescriptions or pairing their mortgage. she isn't thinking of when your premiums go up, they'll lose

their health insurance. >> shannon: i don't know where to start. having coverage is not the same thing as having care. there's a lot of emotion in that ad. >> kennedy: their emotional lysing and issue with so much hysteria. i watch that and i don't think the only solution is she pays for his medicine or she pays the mortgage. if we had less fda regulations, then we'd have more free market choices to contend with and she would have a better array of drugs to choose from in the first place. >> melissa: if you want to try to make the inhaler issue into a health care issue, that was the whole fight we got.

hugo and i get the replacements, i know a lot of people in my family uses taylor's. they're always changing what is legal, when it's covered. >> kennedy: there weren't enough choices on the market, but it also goes to show you come up with this kind of infighting, not only among democrats or republicans, but the ideological differences within the republican party, it shows an issue like this is so emotional and it is important to people, but it also shows the failure of government. >> trish: we couldn't solve it in 5 minutes. >> shannon: we're going to stay on this, but we are waiting for remarks on another topic. this is going to be house speaker paul ryan on tax reform. both he and the president say agenda is on track and voters heading to the polls and a high-stakes special election in georgia. we are watching this race closely between jon ossoff and karen handel, what it could tell us about the 2018 midterms. and i'm being told it'll be another 15, maybe 20 minutes, and we will have you on your way.

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>> melissa: fox news alert.

we are winning how speaker paul ryan preparing to take on a hot-button issue. he is said to address a group of manufacturers in washington and when his office is calling a major speech on tax reform. the house speaker will reportedly be pushing lawmakers to overhaul the tax code by the end of the year, fingers crossed. despite medical division that has delayed much of president trump's agenda. a discussion on that is straightahead. in the meantime, growing calls to hold north korea accountable for the death of an american college student. otto warmbier died yesterday just days after he was returned home unresponsive following 17 months in a north korean prison. the warmbier was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for allegedly stealing a propaganda poster and now president trump is weighing in on his death saying what happened was a disgrace. listen. >> it's a total disgrace what happened to otto.

that should never, ever be allowed to happen and frankly, if you were run home sooner, i think the result would have been a lot different. i spoke with his family. his family is incredible. he should have been brought home a long time ago. >> melissa: those comments come after the president called north korea a brutal regime and vowed to handle pyongyang. all this is the ricky democrat on the senate foreign committee ben carton joint and several other lawmakers urging a strong u.s. response saying otto is dead because of kim jong-un's repressive murderous regime. north korea must be held accountable. in the meantime, rex tillerson says north korea is to blame for his unjust imprisonment and is demanding the return of three other americans were still being held there.

we went through this. matt, a lot of people said that they did or a member he was being held. that was the policy of the lesser administration, stay quiet. that didn't work. >> kennedy: the family is feeling that strategic patience is deadly. they were used as political bargaining chips. we see that that is not the cas case. we need and only proof of life, we need proof of health. it is very understandable, the anger in the sense of injustice. it doesn't matter what parity your in, this is an american, this is a kid. no one deserves the treatment that he has undergone, god rest his soul. i agree with senator mccain when he says that he was murdered. >> melissa: general jack keane saying earlier today that this is going to come to a very strong action, that the u.s. must stand very strong on this

issue. what do you think? >> anthony: what i like what the president is that anytime there's a crisis like this, he's very measured. he doesn't like tipping his han hand. any time that you impede a regime, you could resulting are not looking for. if we don't take countermeasures now, something worse will happen in the future and that is something we have learned from history. take all these regimes that people try to use strategic patience or on strategic indifference has led to the sort of problem. >> melissa: it will strengthen our resolve that we really have to do something once and for all about this regime, that could be one good thing that comes from this. >> trish: you ever that means. we play by one set of rules and the rest of the world plays by another.

it puts is very much a disadvantage. it's like we're going to take someone from north korea and do anything like this, yet they'll do that to our people. if three americans there now. how do we confront this threat? what are the options here? or sanctions. >> shannon: that is without a doubt. the interesting thing is we have this new president in south korea who seems to want to engage more with north korea, doesn't want the missile some some that we are going to put in there, so it feels like two steps forward with one step back. pressures got to be brought to china. there the key player. >> melissa: ambassador bolton said we don't want to be faced with a situation where we are looking at a missile sitting on the tarmac, we don't know what it's loaded with, what could possibly do, or where it's headed. at that point, it's too late.

>> kennedy: at that point, if be careful to separate these issues. we have to be careful with the fact that this is a nuclear power whether we like it or not. this is a nuclear power that is growing much more aggressive. it goes to show you. rhetoric is one thing, but this death is proof that they have no value for human life at all whatsoever. having said that, there is no easy solution. it's a wonderful thing to say we should go in and get all those americans, but we have to take into account that they've got nukes and they are doing whatever they can to develop the technology or buy it from whoever will sell it to them to get those nukes to us. >> melissa: they've shown what they're willing to do with human beings. having nuclear weapons makes it so much more terrifying. >> kennedy: we are waiting house speaker paul ryan for what

his office is calling a major speech on tax reform before the national association of manufacturers. the speaker promising to overhaul the tax code by the end of this year. this is after ryan and president trump insisting this is a priority. ryan called our current tax system crazy. >> we want to clean up the tax code and we really believe tax reform, getting our rates down so they are competitive globally is a key to faster economic growth. what our goal is higher take-home pay, more jobs, faster economic growth. you can get that without tax reform. >> kennedy: he will make that push a little bit later. meantime, the dow hitting all new highs.

anthony, what does speaker ryan have to say in his remarks to make the pitch to the american people and tax reform is the best way, both personally and for businesses to get this economy further going? >> anthony: they do an excellent job at the end of the day, corporate products is not an inanimate object. the first thing they're going to do is explain and hire better jobs and wages. the secondary piece of this which is very important, we have 75,000 pages of code that have been layered on since 1986. a simplification will lead to better understanding and better accountability and better revenues in the system.

we are a generation plus six years away from the last reform. it has to be reform now. >> kennedy: paul ryan has called this transformation tax reform. how can he make this happen having so many wobbles on health care? >> anthony: let's be optimistic for a moment. let's say we dress up the health care thing and we get that voted on and passed. there will be some democrats to vote on the tax reform because even president obama said before he left office, at the highest corporate tax rates in the worl world, it's unsustainable for the american economy. i predict we get the health care resolved and you get some democrats crossing the aisle. >> melissa: they talk about companies and how they pay their taxes and where the profits are like their bad actors. companies aren't you, et cetera

but he out there who has shares in their pension fund and everything else. money goes where it's treated best. to me, this isn't even a partisan issue. who is a better steward of your money? you are people far away and washington? >> trish: you and i are on the same page. this is one opportunity where you have that on washington. democrats and pelicans agree, we are taxing our corporations to death and as such, we are becoming increasingly less competitive. why should a company want to start in ireland and said right here the arises of america?

>> kennedy: the need is there. >> shannon: phil estimated bipartisan reform, it was bipartisan. it's something that both parties agree needs to happen. >> kennedy: we'll see indeed. what about sean spicer? he's taken on a new role at the white house. we are told is a promotion, but it's coming amid renewed tension with reporters who are upset about if you are on camera press briefings, whether they have a point or are briefings not the best way for the president to get his message out? voters heading to the polls and they can tell us a lot about what to expect in the 2018 midterms. so much happening on the only place to be a part of it is right here on the curvy couch. more "outnumbered" in a moment

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on camera press briefing from sean spicer. this has barely drink spicer will be taking on a new role overseeing the president's entire communications operation. giving up some of his day-to-day duties of the podium. his new title is still being decided, the white house is calling in a promotion. this comes with tensions growing among reporters. they are not so happy about the administration's fewer press briefings that they've been holding in recent weeks. jim and cost blasting the white house yesterday. >> the white house press secretary is getting to a point where he's kind of useless. if he can't come out and answer the questions and he is not going to do this on camera or audio, where we having these briefings in the first place question request the white house behind him. it's bizarre. i don't know what world we are living in right now. we're standing at the white house and they bring us into the briefing room here at the white house and they won't answer these questions on

camera. or let us record the audio. >> trish: the reporter says the president sees the press corps is hostile to him during those briefings. >> and extends to all of his supporters. his supporters believe that the press briefing has become a medium by which the media persecutes the president. >> trish: the question, do we need these pressers? why not do it off-camera? why not just write down the answers old-fashioned style, ask a question. people are used to visual

communication. >> kennedy: jim acosta needs to eat a ham sandwich because it was like his sugar was low. people like that need to get a grip on themselves. unfortunately, we've lost all sense of reality and rationalism. yes, we do need to hold the white house accountable regardless of who the occupant is, but also, the press needs to be somewhat objective. >> trish: i watch these and i think, what are we getting about this? >> melissa: entertainment. >> trish: yes, but as a nation nation? aside from the tv thing, is it worth it for the administration? >> melissa: i'm not making a joke. i think this is why the press corps wants them, they know it's fodder for the whole rest of the day. they want the content, and has nothing to do with trying to serve the public -- maybe some. it mostly has to do with -- you get addicted to the content even though they claim they're not getting the answer to their

question, but they wanted asked, but no one is telling them, i understand that is the responsibility of this press secretary. >> anthony: as a fellow italian, acosta should be and can always come in on ham sandwiches. secondarily, i do believe we should keep the time-honored tradition of having the press briefings. i do think if sean is taking a different role, it will change the strategy around the briefin briefing. there are ways to make that briefing a little less hostile and there are ways to restyle the way the questions are being answered in a briefing like that. it will put those reporters on their heels a little bit. i think that will happen. i don't know what a person will be behind the podium, but my guess -- >> shannon: it seems like it's antagonistic. he sometimes gets a little bit

flustered and it turns into something as opposed to saying what we sought recently. >> shannon: years ago, we didn't have these daily briefings. they are definitely a newer development that we have. yes, the press wants them. as you said, it's material for the rest of the day because it doesn't even matter if they get the answer they want. then they have the back and forth where they are in the shot, spicer is in the shot, look at how he will give us an answer, that is material for them. >> kennedy: if they don't get an answer from sean spicer, they can use our anonymous source. the >> melissa: i want to qualify the spirit they are saying your material, they'll say yes, we want the truth, we want answers. i think that's disingenuous. they are looking for the fight in a lot of cases because it makes more interesting television. >> anthony: the mainstream media is hostile towards the president so he needs this as a counter communication strategy

to the mainstream media. it's another reason why i would like to see these daily press briefings continue. >> trish: there is a recent poll that shows americans like that. college students and their aversion to different opinions. that issue is making all the the way to capitol hill today. a hearing on free speech and campuses and why it seems to be in danger. what to do about those snowflakes who melt. we're going to debate it. see you right back here after this the situation. i knew it could rough in there, but how rough? there was no way to know for sure. hey guys.... daddy, it's pink! but hey. a new house it's a blank canvas. and we got a great one thanks to a really low mortgage rate from navy federal credit union. pink so she's a princess. you got a problem with that? oorah oorah open to the armed forces, the dod, veterans and their families. navy federal credit union.

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>> kennedy: let's go to jon scott with what's coming up in the second arrow "happening now." >> jon: the next hour, we are waiting on news conference on camera and live from the briefing room with sean spicer. along with reports that he may be getting a promotion. we'll have that for your life. also awaiting comments from paul ryan. we are monitoring to a very key house races today with special elections in south carolina and georgia today. to paraphrase roger kipling, you are a better man than i am, scare a moche. >> kennedy: very good.

>> shannon: free speech on college campuses not becoming a federal matter. here's what one student had to say just moments ago about his experiences at williams college in massachusetts. >> in my time at williams, i cannot name a single conservative speaker who has been brought to campus by the administration. this fact is problematic precisely because the overwhelming majority of students at williams have liberal beliefs. and classrooms, liberal arguments are often treated as unquestionable truths. in some cases, conservative students even feel the need to refrain from saying their opinion in fear of being shut down. the >> shannon: 's hearing comes on the heels of several colleges canceling conservative speakers due to violent protests and safety concerns. last month, liberal students and

parents at notre dame walked out during vice president mike pence is commencement speech. one of my favorite things that i saw was there is a guide that says they're going to do things. i have to read this because i want to make sure it's a direct quote. this is the myth of meritocracy. everyone can succeed in this country if they work hard enoug enough. >> kennedy: a basically, we should never do math again. i love zachary would. he was the one that you saw in that clip and he's got a group called uncomfortable learning which is fantastic. the point of their group is to bring in speakers that the students are not normally exposed to so they can hear some ideas that are truly uncomfortable. if you don't have a speaker on

campus, that means you are appeasing fascists. not all students, not all millennials, the ones who are the loudest and the meanest are prevailing and that's going to have detrimental consequences because they're going to be in charge. >> shannon: a lot of people voted for this president because he says politically correct things. >> anthony: a lot of these college presidents are a member of the green party. they will accept a donation. if you are writing a check to them, no problem. it's ironic and very hypocritical. >> shannon: should those big-time donors put their foot down? >> melissa: let's be honest

about what's going on here. it always goes back to the parents. it's a classic thing we are going to send your kids out in the world and they have to understand that not all speeche speeches -- the only way to check what you are thinking is by listening to opposite points of view. that's what college is all abou about. >> trish: this is the problem. part of being an intellect as being able to see many different sides of something and being able to appreciate another person's viewpoint. we are stamping that out of the university system and it's wrong. kids should be exposed with many different viewpoints as possible and i'm sorry, you don't want to do with it because you're a snowflake, too bad, get over it. >> anthony: let's remember, people are usually interested in debate, there typically wrong about their arguments and that's why they don't want to hear the other side.

i find that these liberals, they shut it down primarily because they know a lot of the things they're saying are hypocritical. >> shannon: one of the kids they were talking to said i think it's important for us to have an opposing party because i'm not necessarily conservative, but as a liberal, i want to be able to check my own argument. i went in with the other side is because it makes our argument stronger. >> trish: they want safe spaces, they want to be insulated from the outside world and from many who might have a contrary opinion. it becomes difficult to understand why you hold the opinion you do in the first place and was by force. >> shannon: like when you have a boss and they don't believe in everything you do and you have to go along with all they want. more "outnumbered" in just a minute stood with us when a fire destroyed everything in our living room. we replaced it all without touching our savings.

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