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jack is the bureau chief for future storing his and he joins us with the latest on the story. jack, what you know? >> just in the last hour or so we've seen the authorities conduct a controlled explosion which we believe was a suicide belt worn by the suspected attacker, that he wasn't able to detonate, he was shot by authorities after detonating a small explosive device that was believed to be a suitcase of some sort. didn't enter anyone. it seems only he was injured. we know that he was still in

brussels central station, authorities were able to approach it because of this best, fear or further explosion and the last we heard from the belgian federal prosecutor is that they couldn't tell us whether he was alive or dead, they did however say that they are treating this as a terrorist incident, they also said that they don't know his identity yet, so we are unclear on his motives quite yet. >> tucker: but we can guess. if it's got anything in common like the attacks we've seen recently, thanks very much. mark stein is a columnist and best-selling author and something of an expert on europe, he joins us tonight. can you guess as to motives? >> call me crazy, but i think shouting allah hu akbar. i've become a bit of a demography board, i think it explains most of everything. the results tonight in georgia,

i think will reflect changes in the democratic makeup of that district. likewise, what's happening in brussels as in paris, as in other european cities is the reflection of extraordinary demographic changes. brussels is now 25% muslim and we think that is entirely normal, we think it's good to be multicultural, if someone would say suddenly that we had in the space nothing flat had become 25% flemish we would think that was very bizarre, but one-way multiculturalism as we see in brussels is accepted as a feature of life. >> tucker: that's the point, why is it one way and why is it always in the direction of the west? i don't ever hear calls to diversify japan or south korea, why is that? >> japan has made a conscious decision. they have demographic problems, the oldest society on earth right now, but it is figured that it would rather solve that

problem and remain japan rather than do what belgium has done. belgium is a bicultural state divided between flemish and woman's. they barely get along. there is barely any kind of functioning belgian state, there's basically two states in the capital city. the idea that somehow you can take in huge numbers of muslims and not have consequences is preposterous. we've now had in the space of 48 hours, we had an attack in london, and attack in paris and now in brussels. the three european capitals in three days because of the islamic-european tension. >> tucker: i have to ask you, speaking of countries divided by language and religion about canada. there's a new law in canada that apparently will criminalize the

misuse of pronouns. you can go to jail for calling someone by opponent he, she, or whatever it doesn't prefer. am i misreading this law, does it actually suggest that that could happen? >> they've added gender identity to the canadian human rights act. i'm proud to have played a small part in getting one section of the canadian human rights act repealed. section 13, the hate speech thing. one step forward, two steps back. as soon as you have a small victory in identity group last throw something else into the mix. i have rather tired my legs from comprised of time which you've just demonstrated in your segue from terrorism to gender identity, i always say we will be talking about transgender bathrooms one they nuke us. that actually is the case. for canadians, now miss gender

and someone will rescue being embroiled either at a human rights commission or in a criminal court. this isn't a hypothetical. somebody is already in trouble with a supposedly trans-friendly female jim or because one of the trans women still had what we used quaintly to regard as male private parts, they can now be attached to anybody. it was felt that with these particular parts she shouldn't be strong while in the communal shower. that trans-friendly jim is already in trouble. it's absolutely extraordinary, this, what we are witness stomach witnessing is in our orwellian assault almost the most fundamental language, the language which defines the two sexes. canada has just put itself on the side of criminalizing that. >> tucker: the fundamental

language that corresponds with fundamental biology, all of which it is no mandatory to deny. you sort of wonder, why does no one stand up and say that, it's now illegal. thank you for that. >> it's like spanish birth >> it's like spanish birth certificates if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage,

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>> tucker: president trump spoke again today about otto warmbier are saying that his murder by north korea's regime was a preventable tragedy. >> president trump: it's a total disgrace what happened to otto. that should never, ever be allowed to happen and frankly if you brought home sooner i think the result would've been a lot different. he would have been brought home that same day. the result would've been a lot different, but what happened to otto is a disgrace. >> tucker: the president is right, it is a disgrace, it shouldn't happen in greater national outrage might have saved him.

and yet, as he was being held captive in the country, some on the left suggested that warmbier deserved to be arrested because he was a white male. over at comedy central larry wilmore ridiculed him at length following his imprisonment, watch this. >> can i hear that name again? >> otto frederick warmbier. speaking can he get arrested and give them a fake idea. we've got an american student otto warmbier are here, his birthday is 420. and he lives in 69 weed avenue. listen up, frat boy. this is like the time you stole sigma epsilon's coat. this is north korea. >> tucker: in watch tape of an american being humiliated during a show trial and that's what you

say, that guy's show got, thank god. meanwhile, salon.com said warmbier's humiliation was richly deserved and called him "america's biggest idiot frat boy. huff po gloated that north korea proves your white male privilege is not universal. those quotes are real, we are not making them up, and they are disgusting. a biography of the korean dictator, marion smith is a executive director of victim of communism. they join us tonight. you spent a lot of time thinking about communism and its effects. do you think otto warmbier are deserved what happened to him? >> absolutely not. what he was alleged to have done to displace or move a propaganda poster, the only reason that he was targeted is because he was an american, north korea considers that we are more stil still. there has been no end to the

hostilities of the korean war. they are on a war footing with us, they are a totalitarian communist regime. they have tortured and killed american citizens before and unfortunately what has happened to otto warmbier or, our hearts go out to his family, no family should have to suffer this inside the united states. but it is how they treat their own citizens, it is a cool regime and you could say in fact that all 25 million citizens live in a slave camp. >> tucker: yes. i think they do, they are not americans though so my concern is for people he got a warm beer. michael, by the way, for the record, i don't know that there's any real evidence that he stole a propaganda poster or anything. his roommate was within the entire time and said he didn't see him do anything like that. wouldn't surprise me if that were a life. wouldn't surprise me at all. why the reaction from some of the united states looking at this fellow american suffering abroad to laugh at the guy say that he somehow deserves it? words that come from?

>> north korea is a very complicated subject. you don't expect people to understand it, that's why i wrote a book about it, so people could understand it. if you don't understand it, the point is to be quiet and learn as opposed to using it as a glib reason to have your leftist talking points and mock someone who died being matures. these people are cretins through and through and if they had any shame they would shut up and go home like larry wilmore was forced to do. >> tucker: thank heaven. marion, i'm struck by the reaction, if you take a poll of people under 30 about socialism or even communism say what you think of that, they are remarkably open-minded to it in a way that they are not toured, i don't know, fascism or any other grotesque form of government. why is communism not been taught is the atrocity that was? >> we do have a double standard, the crimes of the holocaust are well-known and we find it dangerous that younger generations would not know about it because it makes repeating something like that more likely.

unfortunately the crimes of communist regime more than 100 million people killed in the last 100 years and some 40 countries since the revolution in 1917. it's not known and for people my age, millennials, we don't have a firsthand memory of news reports, so something like what happened to otto a shocking, we don't even have a framework for understanding what happens. and it should be a moment where we remember why we fought the cold war, why we fought in particular the korean war. north and south korea are remarkably different. south koreans are free, north koreans are slaves and the only thing that made the difference was young american soldiers willing to fight and die there. so we made a difference. >> tucker: thousands of them. that's exactly right, i wish people knew that. so michael, you follow this case of otto warmbier murdered by

this criminal regime and you wonder how can the united states respond in a way that is, you know, justified, proportionate to the crime they committed but also that prevents it from happening again? >> this has happened twice before, 1968 they captured uss pueblo, they still have it. in 1976 they chopped up to american soldiers and that acts is now displayed in north korea. it's very, very hard to figure out what to do when they have nukes and they're willing to kill over a million of their own citizens rather than let go of their hold on power. >> tucker: what a loathsome group. thank you for putting that in perspective. so much for us and for cleansing the taste of larry wilmore from her mouth. it's been months and no compelling evidence has emerged of any kind really that we've seen, but house republicans still investigating whether their own president colluded with the kremlin to win back the white house. why are they doing that? congressman trey joined us next

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>> tucker: despite having no actual evidence, government officials are pressing ahead with her investigation of donald trump with possible collusion with the state of russia. david brooks, who despises competence has all the time, even he is getting suspicious of the whole enterprise, here's what he said. >> i'm getting more uncomfortable with the whole

deal. think there may be getting a little ahead of ourselves and not bothered by the lack of emerging evidence about the underlying crime but there was actually collusion or coordination between the current white house. am afraid we are being swallowed up by the politics of scandal when there's less and less evidence that they actually colluded. maybe that will come out, but so far it hasn't and it bothers me. >> tucker: so what is this investigation about, and when, if ever, does it end? congressman trey gowdy just took over as chairman of the house oversight committee, also served on the house intelligence committee and he joins us. thank you for joining us. >> trey: i hope you're feeling better. spent feel vigorous. but i have lost track of the point of all this. what is the point of this investigation just to remind those of us were following at home? >> trey: for hyperfocus on collusion is not congress' fault, i would say folks in your line of work have been focused on collusion much more than certainly republican members of house. there are four things were looking at, russian active

measures with a subset of that being collusion. the u.s. response back in 2016, which has nothing to do it from, that's an obama administration response. and the leaks and the unmasking, which has everything to do with the reauthorization of certain surveillance programs. there are four things that the house until committee is looking in. one of those involved active measures in a subset of that would be collusion, not just between mr. trump and the russians, but between any american the russians. hyperfocus on collusion and conspiracy and coordination, i'm interested in all charges. >> tucker: when will we know what happened? when will this wrap-up do you think? >> trey: when the last witnesses interviewed, and that is a legitimate criticism. i was ready months ago. there are only six members of the house until committee that are conducting interviews. only six, it's not the whole committee. i was ready to months ago to start interviewing witnesses. we are slowly beginning to do

that. we have another one tomorrow. michael, our goal is to have this done in a perfect world before labor day. we've interviewed everyone because keep in mind, if we don't interview every witness, then some skeptics will say the one witness who did not interview is the one that has all the knowledge. you have to interview everyone and then at the end you can discuss what evidence exists or does not exist. >> tucker: so you set a minute ago the press was keeping the idea of collusion at the forefront of public consciousness, which is of course true. i think you've been responsible in your public statements on this. we had members of the committee on the show who have openly suggested, certainly implied, that there was collusion. there's clearly a political agenda and i'm not flocking for the trump administration, obviously the president has hurt himself with his grotesquely counterproductive tweeting on the subject. as a factual matter, there's a political agenda here, and ask being ground by democrats and doesn't that kind of color the

whole investigation and make it may be less useful for the public's perspective connect >> trey: i think robert muller has a long, distinguished career that is essentially a-political. i think that people are going to be able to have confidence in the outcome of that investigation with respect to congress, we have a tendency to politicize almost everything, and you are exactly right, there are members of both the house and the senate who talk about -- here's my favorite. i've seen evidence that more than circumstantial but not direct, which by the way it is chronological. there's no way it can be more than circumstantial but not direct. one of the members of the committee said this week that he has seen evidence, can't tell us what it is, it's not beyond a reasonable doubt, there's no way to defend yourself against those kind of baseless, reckless accusations. i think ultimately the public will have confidence in robert mueller's investigation. whether or not they have

confidence in congress' investigation depends on how responsible we are and how we frame the issues. >> tucker: you've just taken over the chairman from jason, how will the committee be different under you, under your leadership? >> trey: there's two components, oversight and government reform. oversight is always in fashion, always in style because of brand equity and brands, branch equilibrium issues. this is a once on a public, opportunity that they will be talking about for decades. that will be my focus. it will be serious reform-minded ideas that save money, what frustrates people is only had hearings and we do nothing about it. i look for fewer hearings and a way to work more on it.

>> tucker: i would have to say i love to hear it, but i would also like to see some action. thank you for trimming off my, i appreciate it. >> trey: thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the university of california is fed up with admitting so many of those darn u.s. citizens, they are not impressive, so they are imposing a cap on them while illegal aliens are not affected. no cap on them, is not a wise idea? we will debate it with a former illegal alien next. plus skittles, the candy, trying to celebrate pride, now they are getting accused of what the premises. how did that

>> tucker: two weeks ago we had a pretty spirited conversation with ethics county college professor lisa on the show. she was here to defend a memorial day party that banned white people from attending. here's her point of view. >> boo hoo hoo!

you white people are angry because you couldn't use your white privilege card to get invited to the black lives matter, all black memorial day celebration. this particular day he said stay there asses out, we want to celebrate today. >> tucker: we can't celebrate if someone who looks like he was around? >> you can, but it's a personal choice. >> tucker: you're sick and what you are saying is disgusting and if you are a nazi i would say the same thing to you. that had consequences. a coarsening that had conseques suspended her. in her words, they publicly winched me in front of my students. you will almost never hear us applaud the firing of anybody on the show, we've all been unemployed. again, my god, this woman taught kids, it's insane! not anymore, i guess.

she's not alone. university of california is implementing a quota system to make sure it does not admit to many americans under a newly announced plan, the system's board of regents is capping out-of-state u.s. student population at each school, 18% is the number. guess who is not capped? illegal aliens. they not only have an easier time getting input are in entitled to in-state tuition rates. she obtained legal status, she married an american citizen entry serves serves on the board of directors of the national immigration law center, she joined us tonight. >> tucker: it does seem to me, no matter how conflicted you feel about immigration, you would never be in favor of a state school capping admittance of american citizens, but in effect giving preference to illegal aliens, why would any sane person being paid enough that? >> i don't think anybody is in

favor of that and we have to be really clear about what this new role relates does and what this new rule says is that it's capping the number of out-of-state students, and never says there capping the number of u.s. citizens. there capping the number of students coming from out of the state and frankly rightly so, because the regions are tasked with the responsibility to take actions that are in benefit of california residence. with this audit that they did found is that universities were excepting a larger number of out-of-state residents and lowering the standard of admission for those residents, which was of course hurting california residence, so no one is in favor of capping u.s. citizens, but what this does -- >> tucker: u.s. citizens -- right. that's common at a lot of different schools, university of north carolina, i think virginia does the same. under pressure from the legislature, but you still have

a situation where american citizens are explicitly capped and illegal aliens are not, so why wouldn't as long as we are capping the percentage of a kind of person who can be at school, why wouldn't you go ahead and give preference to americans over people who are here illegally? why wouldn't you think that way? i don't understand? >> i think you are comparing apples to oranges. that's where i think maybe you are lacking understanding for this. the students, the undocumented students that can go to california schools are considered residents of california and they have established residency by living in california for three years or longer and they've established residence by graduating from california high school. which means they are residents. >> tucker: i get it, but since we are informing each other about the facts, california is not a country, it's a state, 1 of 50 of those, it's part of the united states and people who

are here illegally in one state are illegal in all states because they are not u.s. citizens. again, isn't it fair for a state school, a joke government school to put its own citizens first, isn't that where we have governments, so they can look out for their citizens? does this not make sense? >> julissa: what you are saying does make sense but what we are missing here is that you are right that california is part of the united states, but as we know and i think reviewers would agree, states have certain rights and states have the ability to pass a law in those states and california passed ab540, which is the law that allows undocumented people to attend university. it passed with 2001 with overwhelming support. the residents of california have spoken and they have said that it's in the best interest of california to let undocumented students pursue a higher

education. >> tucker: right, to give preference to people here illegally over american citizens, can you think of another country that would do this? does any other country to this? >> julissa: we're not talking talking about the united states, are we talking about a specific law in california that allows undocumented students. >> tucker: let's not dodge the question, the philosophical underpinning really matters here. government exists to serve citizens, there's a difference between a citizen and the noncitizen, doesn't mean the noncitizen is back, but it means it's not number one on the priority for government, by definition shouldn't be. can you think of another place on planet earth where government would put the needs of a noncitizen before citizen? >> julissa: i can think of a scenario where the regions of the state of california have to act in the best interest of californians. that is what is happening in this case. if we come back up for a second, state universities exist to benefit the residents of each of

those states. the university of texas, where i went to school was established to serve texans and california, the state universities are established for that. by the way, -- >> tucker: what i have to stop it because i figured out the rhetorical trick you are using, it took me a while, you using the term resident which is different from citizen. a resident is just somebody who happens to be somewhere at a moment. i can be a resident of one of cyrus on vacation. >> julissa: to be completely clear about what i'm saying is that in order to be a resident in california to pay in-state tuition at the institution to have to live in california for three years or more and you have to have graduated from california school. by the way, that system is subsidized by taxpayers. undocumented people. >> tucker: on the way. >> julissa: undocumented

people in california pay $3 billion every year in taxes. >> tucker: and take much more than that it services, which you know. if you want to have a math argument with me i will win on that, i can promise you. i want to have up very quickly philosophical question, do you think there is a meaningful difference between someone who is here illegally and someone who is a citizen? all residents here, but some residents can, i don't know, vote, own firearms and some can't. that's a meaningful distinction, do you acknowledge that distinction or is it all just nonsense? >> julissa: that's not what we're talking about here. i came on the show to talk about law in california and whether it discriminated against u.s. citizens, which it doesn't. it doesn't discriminate against -- >> tucker: it like affirmative action, we are all winners, except some more than others. thank you. >> julissa: we are talking about it affirmative action that's a completely different conversation. >> tucker: i hope you come in for that. everybody wins! we have to go. lena dunham has some thoughts about father's day and because we are a fallen, deeply sinful society, her opinions are not society, her opinions are not considered news.

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>> tucker: imagine if you hosted a show like this in 2017, a cultural revolution going on all around you and your job, find where to were admitted. you what couldn't do it, you have to create a contest, we have determined the weirdest moments. catherine, managing editor of the famous d.c. and gabby, white house reporter for the "washington examiner," thank you both. catherine, you first. >> i think the only saving grace to my story is that lena dunham deleted it week, but not be forced to make before the internet found it. on father's day she tweets you don't need a father, so many families work so many ways, but if you have one, he better work.

work is spelled with an ee and i'm still trying to figure out what that means. first of all, stop. second of all, fathers are important, as our mothers. i certainly needed my father, he taught me how to drive. lord knows i didn't aid my mom teaching middle schools, no offense, mom. spent [laughs] the beneficiary of a great one, i read completely. i feel a little bit of guilt even bringing up lena dunham on the show, but we have obligations to the news. gabby, can you beat that? >> i will do my best. apparently skittles executives at the candy company were not paying attention during the whole controversy surrounding the pepsi commercial because they are not trying to show that they are all about tolerance and inclusiveness. by producing a limited edition all white bag of skittles. obviously this backfired, liberals accuse them of being racist and promoting white pride

when in fact the company wanted this to basically promote pride week. they were sending this message out saying that by removing the rainbow colors from skittles, we are putting all of the attention on the rainbow flag to support the lgbt community. this is just another example that the left is never going to be satisfied. it's a move that was supposed to reach out to the lgbtq community and just like the pepsi commercial it backfired. >> tucker: and maybe candy company shouldn't get involved in politics when they start deeming up with peter, i'm out. those are both awesome. catherine you detonated the neutron bomb of news, anything lena dunham-related wins by its very nature. so horrifying, so retina-burning and it's often less, it's natural. you did a great job, gabby. thank you for you both. new results in from the georgia special election, the eyes of the country are