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unhinged? let us know what you think. that is all the time we have less this evening on this program. always fair, always balanced. thank you for being with us. see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." they learned nothing after 2010, of 2014 or even after this past presidential election in 2016. but now after losing four straight house special elections, just this spring, some democrats are finally realizing what has been obvious for a while. you can't win elections unless you are running on something. normal people don't seem to care for nancy pelosi. after the party's shocking defeat in tuesday's race in georgia, several prominent democrats conceded it might be time to find an actual message. maybe even a new leader in congress. wasn't who doesn't embody the
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attitudes of the ripest zip code in san francisco. >> do you think nancy pelosi is more toxic than donald trump? >> you know what? the honest answer is in some areas of the country, yes, she is. >> it's clear that i think across the board in the democratic party we need new leadership. it's time for a new generation of leadership in the party. >> nancy pelosi was a great speaker. she is a great leader. but her time has come and gone. >> i believe she is not the leader for the future of the democratic party. >> tucker: nonsense, says pelosi. she describes herself as a remarkly impressive leader. despite a half a decade of uninterrupted defeats. >> they want me to sing my praises? is is that what you are saying? i'm a master legislator. i'm politically astute leader. my leadership is recognized by many around the country. that is why i am able to
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attract the support that i do. >> tucker: did you hear that? it sounds like an s&l sketch. >> because i'm good enough. i'm smart enough. and doggone it, people like me. >> tucker: doggone it, people like me. the questions remain democrats need a new message and a new leader to take back the middle of the country. we have a former deputy press secretary at the democratic national committee and he joins us now. jose, thank you for coming on tonight. >> good to be with you. >> tucker: just the election on tuesday, nobody on the left and honestly, few on the right called this. the polls suggested a closer race the race indicated. do you there is any possibility that russia was involved on the race working on behalf of karen handel? >> the reality is georgia was supposed to be won by
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republicans by -- >> tucker: that is a joke, jose. you have to laugh or i think you take it seriously. >> georgia was supposed to be done by the republicans by 20 points. i was won by republicans by 4 points. why? republicans lose the race, we are gaining momentum. we will win the house in 2018. i'm telling you. georgia wasn't even supposed to be competitive and it was because this is a referendum on the president. people are tired of this nonsense. >> tucker: if i were a partisan, if i'm not really but i would be happy with your response because what you seem to say everything is fine. make no changes. we are doing great. we are going to win. when, act in in -- when in facta numbers matter karen handel won a higher percentage of the vote than trump won in the same election. you are losing ground.
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>> nancy pelosi is not going anywhere. at the same time, let me say democrats across the country, we are recruiting young blood, new democrats to be candid its so they can run. so they can look for solutions that real americans are looking for. she is not going anywhere. >> tucker: what are they going to run on? i'm not here to attack nancy pelosi. i feel sorry for nancy pelosi. my only point i guess would be she lives in a rarefied world. she represents one of the richest congressional districts in america and is also one of the most liberal districts. can someone who represents a place like that appeals to the voters you need who are not hard partisans but are on the fence? you are obviously not going to engage in this. what should democrats run on? what is the message of the democratic party? >> quickly, on pel pem -- nancy pelosi out of touch because of as wealthy she is,
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our president, trump is rich. he has more money than all of us put together. the president of the united states. >> bret: i'm not attack attacking -- you are missing my point. i'm not attacking pelosi being rich. it happens she is. but if you are winning over voters with specific concerns you want a leader who understands the concerns. does she? what from the concerns? what are the democrats going to run on? what is the message? >> democrats run on american values. we need to create real jobs. infrastructure. middle class jobs. not the nonsense from the current president all he is doing is trying to divide it. he is upset about the wall. now he wants to put a solar panel on the wall. give me a break. talk about the real issues. >> tucker: are you running against trump again? i know you don't like trump. you ran campaigns against trump and it didn't work. get to what the democratic message is. you say it's jobs. number one. jobs. but not low jobs.
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middle class jobs. that is one. >> absolutely. middle class jobs are important. we need immigration reform. real immigration reform. we are a nation of immigrants. we understand what the american people need. >> tucker: wait. you're running simultaneously on the idea you will going to create more jobs but you want more low-wage, low-skilled people to move here. how do those two work in tandem? you can call it what you want but you are saying we need more immigrants and we also need more jobs. if we have too few jobs why bring more immigrants? >> immigrants pay taxes and bring money in the economy. legal immigrants and immigration, expanding immigration system will only help us and create more jobs. look at the numbers. >> tucker: tell me how -- i'm familiar with the numbers. i don't think that you are. how will importing millions more poor people create more
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middle class jobs? what is that happening? >> all immigrants are not poor people. they are hardworking -- >> tucker: i'm not saying they are not hardworking but the majority of them are poor. how does importing more of them create more jobs? >> number one, a lot of immigrants by the way under the hb 1 visa are engineers and scientists and they are coming to study in the best universities. then there are immigrants that want to do jobs that americans don't want to do in the first place. >> tucker: how is it creating jobs? i don't think you have thought it through. give me the immigration of the program. if you have a message of voters to say this is what i'll bring if you elect me. you have to explain it. you're saying we will bring more jobs and bring in more poor people. how will this work? then throw in a bumper sticker and a slogan.
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don't you think you should think through how to create the jobs? >> immigration, legal immigration in the system will create more jobs. more people that want jobs that americans don't want. that is the fact. that is the truth. >> tucker: that is not creating more jobs. that is taking jobs that americans don't want. i thought the idea was to create more middle class jobs. >> we can do both. >> tucker: how does it work? have you thought it through? that is why you keep losing. you say dumb things and it doesn't make sense. i don't know how immigrants and middle class jobs go together. >> it would be better if we had a president willing to work with the democrats. that is not happening. we have a president investigatedded time and time again. i don't know if he will make it to 2020. what do you think? >> tucker: yeah, trump's bad.
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i don't know. even if he doesn't democrats will not be the beneficiary of it. trump may be bad but voters are no mood to support democrats. good luck, jose. after tuesday's defeat, democrats haven't just been criticizing the party's message but questioning if they have one. >> we need a message. we don't have an infrastructure in the caucus that allows more voices to be heard. >> we have been hyper confused over the course of the past five years. >> i don't think people in the beltway are realizing just how toxic the democratic party brand in, in so many of the countries. this is a party that many of us grew up hearing. this is the party for the working class. we have gotten away from the economic message. >> tucker: so did questions have a message? tim ryan may be on to something. if they don't have a message, what should the message be?
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we are joined by someone who thought a lot about it. charles krauthammer. who has thought a lot about virtually everything. what should the message be that democrats run on next time? >> the paradox here is the one wing of the party, the base, has a message. bernie sanders wing. they have a set of ideas. they want a government-run healthcare. they want government intervention. higher regulation, higher taxes and open the borders. they want to create a european social democracy. germany in the u.s. a coherent idea. i think it's nuts, a terrible outcome but it has appeal. he hung in there for six months against hillary. now the problem is that is not a majority of the party. it's the strong base of the party. it's not a majority. the rest of the party, the clinton wing, the part who supported her and went for her and who are the regulars do
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not have a message. that is the problem. by message, i mean ideology, coherent set of ideas. what they have, they have con touch whensies -- con touch -- they have constituencies. they appeal to blacks and young people. they appeal to women, mostly single women. to lgbt. they have constituencies. it's the stitching together of the constituencies hoping to put them over 50%. that is a strategy. it may work. it worked with obama. he put together a large element of those constituencies and he won twice. but the problem is it doesn't have an ideological and intellectual coherence. so when you say what do you stand for? they can't give an answer. what do they do? they invent this idea of diversity. this is a party of diversity. diversity is an adjective that describes the world as it is. it's not a political
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aspiration. not a goal everybody wants to head to. that is not what america is. america is a lot of things. freedom. you can say if you are sanders, equality, a lot of other things but diversity is pale and an unappealing ideal if it one at all. it's a phony. it's really intellectual excause for appealing one constituency at a time. that's what they have been trying to do. you can win sometimes with a charismatic candidate like obama in 2008 or even 2012 but it's not a way for the party to survive. >> bret: the problem is if you organize the party around politics the groups may realize they don't have anything in common and they have separate goals. why wouldn't they go to war against each other? >> and they do. that is the problem. when you do the identity politics and when you appeal to groups based on what is the
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characteristic, you inevitably end up with fighting over the spoil. why should it be x and not y? or an immigrant whose parents fought in the second world war? there is no way to judge and you end up with a scrambling for spoils. that is one of the things that the democrats suffer from. >> tucker: the one good thick about sanders he had ideas. it was unifying. charles, thank you. >> you would have thought it exists only in the english department of some elite university which explains why elizabeth warren is perfect example of a harvard professor. but it has a limited appeal.
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socialism is not the most successful idea of the last two centuries. it's not a terribly good idea to run on it. but at least it hangs together. the pelosi democrats have no ideas that hang together. >> tucker: thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: president trump gave a stem winder last night. on the other networks he wasn't there. they were covering russia, of course, and jared kushner. they are obsessed with trump obviously. why don't they question him when he talks interesting question. and a professor at a college is claiming victim status after he advocated the death of white people online. what is going on at trinity college in hartford, connecticut? we have a report up next. [ indistinct chatter ]
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this phony nbc television network. but they built these studios. cnn. oops. hey. the cameras just went off. i can't imagine. >> tucker: that was president trump in iowa. it was a long speech. more than an hour. pretty interesting speech. but unless you were watching this channel you likely didn't see it. producers at cnn and msnbc cut away pretty quickly. cnn covered the speech for a
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mere seven minutes and then went on to discuss jared kushner's security clearance. you know that was breaking news. and jeh johnson's claim that you guessed us, vladimir putin ordered cyber attacks in the country. msnbc didn't show the teach at all. and dedicated more time to -- brace yourselves -- the alleged collusion between trump. joe joins us tonight. msnbc, i guess it, actually. they know what their audience is. it is supposed to be a news channel. they talk about trump a lot. they have chance to show trump talking and they cut away. what is that about? >> you say "a lot" and you hit the nail on the head. snapshot in may, nonbreaking news day like last night and cnn talked about trump 92% of the time from 4:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. if you watch the network, i watch it often because it's part of my job. that's about right.
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85-92%. they are talking about trump. when you are so myopic on a person particular, in this case the president why wouldn't you cover him live to actually hear what he has to say? unless the unfiltered version of trump doesn't allow for commentary, punditry. then we talk about the journalism, how did the ratings work out? was it good editorial decision not to cover the rally live as fox did? i have numbers. fox more than quadrupleed cnn coverage last night. against msnc fox 3.3 million, msnbc 1.2 million. is this a good choice? it appears not from the
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business perspective or the editorial perspective. >> tucker: it's not -- i wish we could take credit for the numbers. it's trump talking, not the show. but it's not journalism that cnn is practicing. it's advocacy. why are they branding themselves as a news outlet? >> i don't know how you say the days of bernard shaw and aaron brown are gone. now we are the opposition party instead. i don't know how you can be transparent about that. you are right. the numbers support that. a har saturday -- harvard study came out and said cnn more than any other broadcast outlet on cable 93% of the stories are negative. that means 100 stories only seven stories on cnn are positive.
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last night was newsworthy to cover. trump had not done on interview on cable since may 13. not one on broadcast news since may 11 and luster -- lester holt. so on a nonbreaking news night i think you have to cover that. >> tucker: if you call yourself a news network. what bothers me is the dishonesty. i don't follow a lot of media about media. is cnn still regarded a news channel by other news outlets? do they cite cnn as a source for ununbiased accounts of what happened in the world or seen as an advocacy platform? >> there is a circle of cnn, "new york times" and the "washington post." they like to quote each other a lot. but to the observers they are not seen as objective anymore. not just cnn. we saw on msnbc today there
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but an analyst on there used to work for the bush administration said sticking up for trump is like hucking a suicide bomber. you would -- hugging a suicide bomber. you would think that after kathy griffin you would stop using the isis analogies. negatively has worked to a certain extent but when the president is speaking you should cover that or you'll pay for it in the ratings. we saw it last night. >> tucker: thank you for joining us. >> good to see you. >> tucker: great. in the speech last night, the president called for a new law to keep immigrants off welfare. is that a divisive radical proposal or already the law? did it start under bill clinton? we'll discuss that next. dear predictable, there's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced.
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>> tucker: well during a speech in cedar rapids last night, the president called for all immigrants coming to the country to be barred from receiving welfare benefits for five years. >> president trump: that is why i believe the time has come for new immigration rules. say those seeking admission into our country must be able to support themselves financially and should not use welfare for a period of at least five years. >> tucker: the usual suspects were shocked by that, of course, but what the president called for isn't a radical innovation. in fact it's in line with the policies of clinton.
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bill clinton, that is. the 1996 federal law already bans immigrants using welfare for five years but the bush administration administration increased the programs exempted from the law. francisco fernandez is an attorney from texas and joins us tonight. the argument in favor of immigration is immigrants make the country better, they make it richer, they bring jobs. you can't simultaneous argue that and the united states has some obligation to give welfare to people they never met before. can you? >> mr. carlson, thank you for having me. the misconception is undocumented immigrants receive welfare. they are not. that is just plain not true. president clinton is in a hypocritical move to get re-elected but the month after it was passed by executive order he reversed it.
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two presidents that not reversed the executive order. that is the law. president trump is not doing anything -- >> tucker: let's back up a little bit. first, people immigrants, legal and illegal receive a whole host of welfare benefits from the u.s. >> they don't. undocuments do not. >> they do, actually. >> it's just plain wrong. it's not true. >> tucker: actually, you are wrong. it pays for almost 100% -- >> it does not >> tucker: -- of emergency rooms. >> not true. >> tucker: i won't debate a fact that you don't know. there is a special fund, federal fund to pay the bills. they go almost exclusively to illegal immigrants. >> no, they don't. it's threatening.
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>> that is not what we're talking about. you are right. >> don't talk about what we're not talking about. >> tucker: the president said they shouldn't get federal again if its for five years -- federal benefits for five years. how do you say come here and we'll pay you welfare benefits. that's the opposite of what we want. >> if they are paying taxes, there are a lot of u.s. citizens receiving welfare that don't pay any taxes. if they pay their fair share there is nothing wrong with it. that a what we sign up. >> tucker: that is what we sign up for. you just don't know what you are talking about. there is a fund emergency medicate. $2 billion exclusively to illegal aliens. it's not argument. you are making me frustrated because i know what i'm talking about and you don't. >> then i shouldn't frustrate you. >> tucker: but why would you invite people to the country -- >> we're not. >> tucker: then put them on welfare?
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isn't the idea that people come here and they add to the society. you don't want to report people already dependent. why would you do that? >> we don't, mr. carlson. you know what? what happened to the wall? this is detracting from the wall. undocumented immigrants don't receive welfare. if it's life threatening that is what the hospitals, emergency care are supposed to do. >> tucker: whatever. i'm just getting mad. let me ask you the question one last time. the question and i think it's important. why would you want to bring people voluntarily to the country. we don't owe them anything. a favor to allow them to come here. why do you want to bring people who are immediately depen dent on welfare when you get here? don't you want something to add something to your country economically? >> you are just determined to argue with me. i'm not disagreeing with you.
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i'm telling you that is the law already. there is no argument. but you just want to disagree with me on something. because that proves to you undocumented immigrants do not receive medicaid. period. >> tucker: undocuments aliens, illegal illiens receive the benefits i describe. illegal immigrants receive panoply, food stamps, a number of things that are exempted from the law. the president says take exemptions away and come here as an immigrant, try on your own. i don't know why you argue against it. i doubt you do either. >> 21 years have passed and all the illegal benefits have been paid out and nobody is trumped out the warning signs? c'mon, mr. carlson. this is really a detraction from what we really should be talking about is immigration reform. what mr. president trump -- >> tucker: we'll put you in charge of it francisco.
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>> start building the wall on the border. you could come with us. >> i'll join you. appreciate it. thank you. the china annual dog meat festival begins in a southern city. 10,000 dogs are killed there every year. hung on hooks and eaten by the chinese who believe it's potent. the more painful the death is more powerful the meat. so many are tortured. this year as in years past there is international protest against the event. chinese government responded with a massive police presence there to shield dog eating from public view. reprehensible? it is. but clarifying. the ruling class embraced the idea of the cultural relativeism where you can't say one civilization is better or worse than any other civilization. that is false as this
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illustrates. some are impressive and others are backwards. chinese eat dog and we let them sleep on the bed. only one is disgusting and barbaresque and it's -- bar barbaric and it's ours. and connecticut shut down a campus for a day after a professor called white people inhuman and advocated for their violent demise. what is going on at trinity? a student there joins us next. en my car insurance with geico. huh. i should take a closer look at geico... geico can help with way more than car insurance. boats, homes, motorcycles... even umbrella coverage. this guy's gonna wish he brought his umbrella. fire at will! how'd you know the guy's name is will? yeah? it's an expression, ya know? fire at will? you never heard of that? oh, there goes will! bye, will! that's not his name! take a closer look at geico. great savings. and a whole lot more.
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here is part of what he wrote. "it's past time for racially oppressed to do what people two believe themselves to be 'white' will not do. put an end to the vectors of the mythology of whiteness and the white supremacy system. let them f'ing die." he spelled it out. later he referred to white people as "inhuman." he still works there. forced to respond by this the president of the college sweeney issued a statement saying the school will look into the post. not saying he will be fired for attacking a race or inciting violence or lunacy in general but the faculty will assess the situation and something will happen at some point. it's an unbelievable story. especially for me since i went to trinity with a lot of other reasonable people. though not all at the same time. the school changed a lot in
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recent years. to find out how much it changed i talked to a couple of current students who have taken classes from the professor. "them f'ing die" johnny williams. they confirm what we suspect. williams is an open bigoted who singles out and torments kids based on their race. how could he not be? how could trinity not know this this? he has been there for 21 years. i called the vice president at trinity, angela schaefer. she explained she knows of no review of williams behavior in class because the college doesn't want to hear details. so you can imagine when asked about the "let them f'ing die" schaefer defended williams. it was a hashtag not a quote. hashtag is part of a conversation online. and what conversation would that be about letting them f'ing die? schaefer didn't explain.
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trinity used to be a good school. never great but there were solid history and english departments for whatever reasons didn't get into dartmouth so they went there. then the left wrecked it with the usual combination of lower standards, frivolous classes, and not to mention addition of semi literal buffoons like professor williams. who would want to go there now? would you send your kids? depressing but maybe not uncommon. maybe it went to the school you went to. our condolences to you. we are joined now by justin, student at trinity now. the school didn't apologize for what the professor wrote "let them die" and they appear to be defending it. it appears to be appeal to violence. what do you think of that? >> i think the school didn't do enough to address this and
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professor williams and joann burger sweeney should have come out with more of an apology to make the issue right. the hashtag was inflammatory and unacceptable and doesn't represent a lot of the dialogue that goes on at trinity. >> tucker: i'm glad to hear that. what would have happened if a white plo fess somewhere wrote let them die" about a black lawmaker shot? will the school say he has a right to free speech and all that and we'll think about that? do you think? >> i think professor burger sweeney has taken her time with a lot of issues. i don't think she would be quick to act on that. she was too slow to act on this, to condemn the behavior. we had to wait a full day to hear from that and we waited too long to hear from
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professor williams to correct the issue and get the right details out. i have heard from a lot of students that professor williams paints with broad strokes in his class. it would be nice to get details behind this and understand what he was saying because right now the broad strokes are not making a good picture. >> tucker: paint with broad strokes means attacking entire groups of people. i talk to kids in the people and they say he will attack groups of people based on skin color, income, where they live. it makes them unhappy. have you heard that? >> i have heard that from my peers. he makes assumptions based on what students are wearing and things like that. that is part of his class. some students told me they have come to learn from the experience but they have also some students found it difficult to try to learn in an experience where it's somewhat hostile. >> tucker: why would trinity have a professor like this?
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>> i think trinity is focused on trying to maintain what a real liberal attars education should be. one group on campus the churchill institute trying to make sure that it is both sides of the dialogue are heard. and i think it's important to have academic freedom and professors to say things but when a professor comes across with this inflammatory i don't think that is acceptable. and it deserves an apology. >> tucker: let them die? yes. justin, thank you for coming on tonight. good luck. >> you're welcome. >> tucker: kamela harris the latest to be under the effect of sexism but she didn't seem to care about the other issues. we'll talk about that. feet all day gave me pain here.
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>> tucker: well, this last week, california senator kamala harris became feminist martyr persisting in her questioning of attorney general jeff sessions but a day later harris had a chance to help actual women. and she took a big pass on that. there were two appearing before the homeland security committee to testify about the dangers of the islamic women. and that have experienced the danger. and kamala harris didn't have a single question for them. why the silence? and you wrote a thank you -- thank you for coming on. you wrote a powerful piece in the "new york times" in which you said not only did the
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purported feminists in the senate ignore you p but one of them claire mccaskill questioned the reason for the hearing and scolded you in an implication for complaining about it. >> we were shocked. we are activists. we have scholars and we have lived experience in the phenomena of an ideology of extremism with islam. it's spilling blood throughout the world and it is causing too many casualties among women especially. we thought we'd have engagement with the women senators in particular. but tucker, we sat there. as i sit before you right now. they completely ignored us. i looked them in the eye and they would never even look us in the eye. this is a failure on the part of too many progressive in tackling the serious issue of
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islamic extremism. it's a crisis today. that is what we went there to testify about. >> tucker: if you care about women, i have three daughters. anyone who loves women, anyone who believes in human rights about to be upset about what is going on in a lot of the countries. why are the feminist groups not focused on this? >> you are absolutely right. your daughters probably listen to ariana grande, right? she has been on this tour called "dangerous women." and the problem is the ideology of islam thinks that young girls like your daughter, your daughters, women, are dangerous women for the freedoms that we have. why don't the feminists in america want to help us? because there is a propaganda network that has taught them and tells them every day they are going to be bigots,
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racists, islamphobes if they dare talk about issues in islam. what we ask them to do is apply to islam and enlist in society the same standards and expectations they do for our own society. we shouldn't have a double standard. we have women forced into so many awful conditions of second class citizenship through an ideology that we can defeat if we identify it, name it, and destroy it as we did ideology of communism and fascism. we can destroy the ideology. >> tucker: that is beautifully put. we are out of time. but god bless you for everything that you are doing and for calling it into account. thank you. >> thank you so much. i hope everyone stands with moral courage. >> tucker: amen. fox and friends air exclusive interview with the president of the united states and the first lady tomorrow. here is part of it.
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>> you have the white house, the house and the senate but you have senators that are not on board. >> president trump: there are four good guys and they are four friends of mine. i think they will get there. we'll from to see. healthcare is a difficult situation. if you look, the clintons tried to get it. after years and years they couldn't do it. obamacare was murder for them to get. now it's failed. it's virtually out of business. obamacare is a disaster. we are trying to do something in a very short period of time. >> tucker: president trump and the first lady on "fox and friends" starting tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. don't miss it! up next, president abraham lincoln made a surprise appearance in a small town baseball game this week. we'll tell you why, what it looks like. we have pictures. but when it comes to mortgages, she's less confident. fortunately, there's rocket mortgage by quicken loans. apply simply. understand fully. mortgage confidently.
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>> tucker: well, another fading celebrity fetishizing violence. a description about donald trump, actor johnny depp promoting his new pirates of the caribbean film -- the movie apparently tanked but instead of focusing on the film, he joked about murdering the president. here's part of what he said. >> when was the last time an actores assassinated a presiden? >> tucker: come on. sad.om speaking of presidents killed by actors, abraham lincoln has not held office for 152 years. it doesn't mean he's not around, though. the 16th president made an unexpected appearance at a minor league ball game in new york. he threw out the first pitch fo the hudson valley renegades. >> no one better than abee lincoln. the 16th president.
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he is wearing his original sunglasses from back in the day. >> tucker: that is not the actual president lincoln. the tip-off was the sunglasses. lincoln's sunglasses were far more impressive than that. the man with a chin beard, he is the director of the show. the great mike macedonia. our friend and coworker. president of the lincoln society in new york. the society's mission is to foster patriotism, perpetuate the name, ideals, and distinctive appearance of our nation's 16th president. that's exactly the kind of politics that everybody benefits from. thank you, mikedede macedonia. one of the nice people in this worldon. that's about it for us tonight. tune in every night at 8:00 for the t show that is the sworn eny of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. don't forget to dvr it, if you haven't already. have a wonderful night. and more than anything, stay tuned for our friends in new york city, "the five."
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they are up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dana: hello everyone, i am dana perino. along with juan williams, greg jesse watters and kimberly guilfoyle. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ the democrats are on a losing streak despite the near incessant accusations of presidential obstruction of justice and unconstitutional actions.ea they are now 0 for 4 in special elections. four seats vacated by trumpti appointees. the democrats' issues were on full display after the g.o.p. netted two wins in georgia and south carolina. this is despite unprecedented spending by liberals. president trump brought up the republican victories last night
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