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>> matt, sammy, there much, much more. i am julie banderas. here is shepard. ♪ 3:00 on capitol hill, were senator republicans are saying they will not vote on health care bill this week. at least not before the fourth of july recess. president from calling in all the public and senators now force it down an hour from now. to talk about what they will do next. i have doesn't g.o.p. senators have come out against the parties plan. some say they don't want to debate l after a prediction it will cost 22 million people their coverage. can the president change the minds this afternoon? plus, the u.s. military now confirming evidence of chemical weapons activity in syria at the same base cruise missiles hit in april, we are told. the white house warning if syria does launch another strike
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against civilians, the syrian regime will pay a heavy price. ahead in the action. let's get to it. ♪ "shepard smith reporting" lie from the fox news deck. >> shep: and from the fox news deck this afternoon, the vote on the health care bill is now postponed. at least until after the fourth of july recess. the reason, some republicans not only refused to vote yes, but would not allow the vote to happen. moderate republican sender say, there concerned about cuts to medicaid for the elderly and the poor across the nation. more conservative republicans are calling the bill, obamacare-light. they want less government and health care. come to katie manders, politically, the congressional budget office, 23 million americans will lose coverage under this plan, and cost for the poor and elderly will go, while the richest americans will get a big tax reduction. analyst say that republican's
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are in a different spot. they provide more care for more people for more money. it would alienate conservative members. if they pull member to make money from the plan, the risk alienating matter senators. i compromise bill would be difficult to reach. senators senator susan collins t against as it was written. she told reporters, she is not sure if any changes would make the bill passed. >> difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental and deep concerns about the impacts of the bill. >> shep: senator collins and every other republican senator is heading to the white house and the next hour to meet with the president. big picture, republican lawmakers have them promising to repeal and replace obamacare for the better part of the decade. president trump put it on the top of his to-do list on the campaign trail. he promised no cuts to medicaid.
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this bill would break that promise pitts is the president has taken obvious with majorities in both timbers of congress, house republicans failed on the first attempt to pass health care. then, they barely passed it in the house. now, senate republicans are struggling. no compromise insight and town hall meetings coming over the holiday recess, they are expected to be attended by constituents who are opposed by the bill or anything like it. after democrats, they stand firm. >> the republican bill is run at the core. the american people are not for big tax breaks for the wealthiest of americans. nor are they for dramatic dramatic cuts. it has about 17% popularity in america and even trump what like it. >> shep: republicans will try to make amendments, changes to get a better score from the congressional budget office to get more republican voters approval, a most important, to get to 50 votes in the senate. mike emanuel on the hill where
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the senator is still speaking. first, let's get to kristin fisher who is live at the white house. >> even though it appears the vote will not happen before the july 4th holiday, president trump is continuing to fight votes one-on-one. he invited all republican senators to come to the white house this afternoon. they should all be arriving here in about an hour, around 4:00. he's also continuing to meet one-on-one with some of the key senators like senator rand paul. he spent a significant amount of time at the white house earlier today, and when he left, about an hour ago, senator paul said, just came from the white house. dow trump is for making the bill. is senate leadership? mitch mcconnell has had his champ to try to sell as bill to the republican senator so far, it has failed.
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now, if the president's turn. all these republican senators had over here. now right now, we're waiting for the deputy press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders to step up to the podium. right now, the energy secretary, rick perry is speaking. reason he is talking, why is the energy secretary speaking in the middle of all this breaking news about health care? that is because it is energy week here at the white house. remember two weeks ago, it was infrastructure week. that was overshadowed by the testimonies by james comey. now it is energy week, and it is being overshadowed by health care. the reason we are waiting for sarah huckabee sanders to speak is because sean spicer has spent the day i capitol hill. he spoke to reporters that he was leaving capitol hill, leaving the luncheon with republican senators just moments ago is listen to what he says. >> it's a two-way street.
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so, we look forward to what they have to say it was on their minds, figuring out how to repeal and replace obamacare. >> sean spicer saint the president wants to get it done. you know, this is president trump, the billionaire businessman president. author of the "art of the deal" let's see if he can close the deal. he could do it with the house, let's see if you do at the center plan. >> shep: kristin fisher. fax cover continues and appeared mike emanuel on capitol hill. my? >> your hearing the fundamental spent in the party about health care. concerta members are saying coming -- and your moderate member same, the medicaid expansion has helped a lot of their constituents, and they do not want to cut it off instantly. there's this tug-of-war at play. bottom line, you form republican senators come out in the last
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24 hours same, they were neck and a vote on the motion to proceed. this is a very routine vote on any bill should be automatic if you're the majority to pass it they did now i debate appeared amended, they want to keep talking about it. before i got to that step. bottom line, the hand was forced. so senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell announced they would do it after the july 4th recess. they are going to talk to the white house and president trump first. >> shepard: the last few days, we've been talking about mitch mcconnell and what a genius he is about wrangling votes. there is no one on capitol hill who questions that. he is the absolute master of it. now, we're left with a situation where, he is able to do that when you're trying to keep the democrats and passing something. on this matter of getting legislation passed, at this point at least, president trump does not have it single legislation accomplishment. >> it is certainly something that is troubling to mitch mcconnell. he has noted many times, he and
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his republican members, everybody on capitol hill, campaign since the 2010 election cycle about repeal and replace obamacare. they talked about it ad nauseam. now it's time to act. their constituents are hurting, and mitch mcconnell talk to reporters a short time ago. >> legislation of this complexity almost always takes longer than anybody else would help. we will press on. we think is currently unsustainable. with all the reason we discussed over and over again here we are optimistic will get the results that are better than the status quo. >> the fourth of july was a mandate holiday, by mitch mcconnell, he's a lot of things on the agenda he must to get to, including the debt ceiling, the budget, and ultimately tax reform. he does not want health care reform to linger forever, but a lot of folks on capitol hill are hoping they can get this done by the end of july. >> shepard: he is expressing optimism, mike.
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you though are reporting that if you do something to get the moderates come in other words, give more coverage, cut medicaid less, have fewer people who have insurance anymore, then you lose the conservatives, and if you pull more government out of health care, then you lose the moderates. where's the compromise? does anyone have an idea of how to get to one? >> i've had some sources say, they can make it bigger for example. this bill supposedly would save over $200 billion more than what the house bill would had to. if ohio wants money for opioid addiction, mitch mcconnell can offer him money for that. if susan collins want money for something, perhaps he can offer money for that. what we called during the obamacare debate, the cornhusker kickback, to get individual senators on board to pass it across the finish line, that could lose some conservatives to say, we want smaller government. we want less. it is a very tight rope that mitch mcconnell, the senate
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majority leader, nose. he knows where his members are, and the discussions and try to get there. now democrats are essentially same, they want republicans to come to the table to fix obamacare. give up this effort. here is the senate democratic leader on that. >> we are here to implore our republican colleagues, turn back from this bill. do not take health care away from people who need it most. to give a tax break to those who need it least. ♪ steel we interrupt now. mike, thank you. sarah huckabee sanders, the deputies press secretary having the briefing today. sean spicer was supposed to do that. here is to be 26. >> live a full schedule of events and actions on the cabinet today on everything from global team trafficking to assistance funding for small communities. this morning, a vodka if i coud
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trunk ivanka said this morning, human trafficking is a human rit issue. it affects millions in this report is an important tool for the administration to combat this tragic problem. the full import is on the state department website could i encourage us to take a look. also, the department of veterans affairs hosted a meeting of robotic experts for robotics and health care roundtable. the va is embarking on the largest transformation and modernization in recent history. part of that will be developing a robust robotics apartment in the program. yesterday, the interior department announced a record $464.6 million allocation to help small communities further demonstrate the president trump administration to all americans. in-state light utah, , and neva, received 26.2 million, these investments are an important part of the federal government's role as land manager and
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neighbor to local communities. including many of those that play a big role in ceding and powering our nation. many of these small communities are being hit particularly hard as health care insurance premiums rise, and insurers flee their obamacare exchanges. it's because of the people who have no choice for themselves or their families that is so critical for the senate votes to repeal and replace obamacare. every day a new announcement is made that health care is out of reach for thousands of american americans. whether insurers are hiking up breaks or leaving markets entirely. today, the vice president is on the hill to his attendance and a policy lunch, and he'll be hosting senators and dinners to make dinner tonight as resident. both the president and vice president are engaged with the senate and hope to have his senses to get it over the finish line. sean said yesterday, he talked extensively with several republican members of the we ca
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can. including senator ted cruz, rand paul, and johnson. he spoke to senator mitch mcconnell, and all the republican senators to the white house to discuss. the president is optimistic that republicans will live up to the promise that they've been making to the american people for seven years by repeal and replace obamacare. i know you guys are probably a bit tired, because you have been here a while. do i skip on the questions? [laughter] i figured, it was worth a shot. with that, i'll take your questions. charlie? >> breitbart news challenge the accuracy of a cnn story. and it had been retracted and deleted, and the reporters were fired. the target of the story accepted the policy. the president when on twitter
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and said cnn is fake news. was their response could good h for the present? >> i don't think it was good enough for the present. i think the question is that constant barrage of the fake news at the president. it has garnered a lot of frustration. you pointed out report. there are multiple other instances, where that outlet and reference has been repeatedly logged and had to point that out or be corrected. there is a video circulating of whether it's accurate or not, i do not know. i would encourage everybody in this room, and frankly, everybody across the country to take a look at it. i think if it is accurate, i it is a disgrace to all of media, all of journalism. i think we have gone to a place, where if the media cannot be trusted to report the news, then that is a dangerous place for america. if that is the place certain
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outlets, particularly for the purpose of spiking ratings, if that is coming directly from the top, i think that is even more scary. certainly more disgraceful. i hope that is not the direction we are headed. i hope outlets that have continued to use either unnamed sources, sometimes stories with no sources. we've been going on this russia russia-trump hoax for better part of a year now. no evidence of anything. things like success at the va barely get covered, and they get covered for an hour at a time. this story gets covered day in and day out, i think america's looking for something better. i think they're looking for something more. they deserve something better from our news media. >> do you expect to not report on stories of foreign countries
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trying to influence the presidential election? >> i don't think it is expected that you're not to report on it. again, actual news. there's something there. there is a lot of things that people would like to hear about. whether it's job growth, deregulation, tax reform, health care. think a lot of people once more coverage on that. i think we should take a really good look at what we are focused on, what we are covered during covering, and making sure it's accurate and honest. if we make the slightest mistake, slightest word is off, it is an absolute tirade from people in this room. news outlets get to go on day after day and site unnamed sources, use stories without sources.
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you mentioned the story where they had to have reporters resign. >> with those words, this administration has done it as well. why in the name of heaven are replaceable, in any one of us, if we do not get it right, the audience have the opportunity to turn the channel or not rita's. you have been elected to serve four years at least. there is no option other than that. we are here to ask you questions. you're here to provide answers. what you say is inflammatory to people all over the country who look at us and see what, once again, the president's right and everyone out here is fake news. everyone is trying to do their job. >> susan: i disagree completely first of all. if anything has been inflamed, it has been the dishonesty that often takes place by the news media. i think it is outrageous for you to accuse me of inflaming a story. >> thank you.
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we had a bit of along briefing here. let me ask you this. how would you describe the president was done health care concerned. with the cbo score, and this morning to syria, what is the mission that they want to conve convey. to the american people to see headlines like that, and they wonder, are we further lean headlong in danger of a situation that part of the world? >> susan: of continuing to be optimistic, the president is committed. he said's and all the members are purely to repeal and replace obamacare. working with the senate, with the house, making sure we get the best bill for us. it is never been about the timeline, but about getting the best piece of legislation that helps the most americans. that is what we are continuing
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to do day in and day out. as a reason why the president has asked members of the senate to come here today, so we can talk about that. they can figure out the best way to move the ball forward. that's the goal of meeting this afternoon. that's a goal of the administration. in terms of the cbo score, as you said yesterday, the cbo score is a budget office. they do very well at times predicting things on budgets, whether it is revenue. i don't think it does a great job, and i think the administration has been clear and consistent that we don't always agree that they do a great job. i think we saw that given their history. they projected that obamacare would be 24 million people it would be a part of that. there were only 11. that number is dropping every day. i i don't have a lot of confidence. i do think the places they do a good job are on the budget and revenue side, and the cbo scored that they pointed out, a cut
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deficit by $300 billion and cut taxes by $700 billion. i think those are good things, and the main focus, that's a good thing. yet a second part? >> the warning to syria. what is your message to the international community, and also to the american people, who made be concerned when they read a headline like that. we may be hurtling towards a situation that involves the u.s. in that part of the world? >> i think the message from the statement yesterday was extremely clear. i don't think it was great. as black and white. >> you in on the record this morning what the process was that led to that statement last night. were members of the team, the state department, taken back by that statement or where they fully involved? can you give us an idea how the process internally works. deliberate and create the statement for public release? >> sarah: i can tell you that
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leadership from the state department, dod, dni, the cia, as well as members of the administration within this building were part of that process from the very beginning. and fully aware. >> the timeline from the very beginning? >> sarah: i will now walk to the detail of the timeline. >> you just said you find the cbo number is valid on the budget side -- >> sarah: they are a budget office. i think of the initial numbers we saw, the cutting of the deficit, the tax cutting, i think that is where historically they have been more accurate as well. not like i just decided that. historically, that is where -- >> with this administration, would they accept the numbers that were published yesterday, generally speaking, valid and with taking searcy? >> sarah: i would think so for the most part.
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a large, yes. jennifer? >> two questions. google and economic forecast. the google with the $2.7 billion fine. are they happy with the u.k. hitting them with a fine? have they accuse him of any behavior? speak to the neck to make >> sarah: i don't have anything about a private company, but if anything changes, let you know o speak on the international economic growth. it's up to 2.1%, which is lowered and what the president said. kenny chaired the reaction of what you think about this new ins report? >> sarah: we will certainly circle back. >> thank you. if syria is poised to launch another chemical reaction
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attack. his essay and what happened in april did? >> sarah: i think our goal every day is to do what we can to protect life in all forms. to take steps to move the ball forward in defeating isis, defeating all efforts of terrorism, and i think the statement help to do that. >> how does the statement work? >> sarah: i don't know that it didn't. based on what we know at this point. >> to follow very quickly, was there a meeting before that statement was initiated? >> sarah: i know there was a routine meeting that took place yesterday. i do not believe that there was anything beyond that yesterday. >> the news about cnn -- >> sarah: be careful about how
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msnbc sets or standards. >> the erroneous story, does the witness believe there are other russian related stories for major outlets that have not been retracted, and are just as false, including the february 14th story in "the new york times" about collusion between trump campaign and russia, which james comey brought into question. >> sarah: i would have to go back and look at that story. there have been many by "the new york times," then i would disagree white a bit with. i think you can take it pretty straightforward that this administration disagrees with all of the stories that claim the president and his campaign colluded with russia. i think he's been extremely clear that it is a hoax, and certainly something that is not true. it did not take place. any story related to that, i
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think you'd find frustration from this team. >> on the retraction, does the white house not believe the news media have an obligation to review stories on the russian-trump issue and retract questionably-sourced stories? do believe the media should go back and look at the stories on russia and trump and start a review process to attract if necessary? >> sarah: i doubt would be a great idea. i certainly don't think you would get arguments from us if they were retractions from outlets on fake stories. i also think there's a moment where we can all do better. that's what we strive to do every day, and hopefully, that is the goal. i know it is for many, and i hope that it will continue to be. not just the mood to make news media up, but everyone in the process. to get better, to strive for excellence. and make -- deliver the best of the american people.
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>> you accept the budgetary calculations but not the projections on who would be insured. what about their projections about what happened to deductibles and premiums? do you accept it? >> sarah: they said yesterday that the premiums would go down, roughly 30% by 2020. that seems based on what we have done internally, pretty consistent. i think in general and largely based, they would go down 30% by 2020. >> another question, the president promised his health care plan would not have cuts to medicaid. does he believe a family of four making $60,000 is too much money to qualify for medicaid? is that just too high? >> sarah: i don't know about specific level breakdown. again, there's a reason he's
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bringing the republican senators over. there will be changes. there will be adjustments. the thing that the president was committed to was make sure anyone who currently receives medicare, -- medicaid sorry, that is not touched, that is consistent with what is in the bill. >> he said the hospital was to mean. does that mean that the senate bill is less mean, as mean? >> sarah: i honestly have not asked him whether he thinks the senate bill, the mood of it yet, but i will check on that later? i will get back to you. thank you. >> about cnn, sarah? >> shepard: the white house briefing periods between six filling in for sean spicer. the associated editor of "the wall street journal" ." thoughts? >> more like the white house. i guess the press >> shepard:
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they need a foil. >> the desire to build a wall around the white house to limit inquiry and you have a chance to criticize the press, cnn ran a story, they retracted it. >> shepard: on the website. >> they apologized for it. >> shepard: and they said, because i want to make sure they get this right. they said they did not go through their procedures. it did not go through standards and practices, and it did not make through editorial checking. afterwards, three people were fired. >> this is what you want to have happen. you want a news organization where they got something that she did not go through the process properly. they retracted, and made a public statement. we made a mistake. >> shepard: dessie the example of how to do it. journalism 101. you make a mistake, you admit it, and you take action. >> you have all those actions and procedures and editor panels.
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this one, it did not go through. they apologized. >> shepard: this is what we are talking about. this is exactly what they want. >> what happened was i gave her an opportunity to extrapolate out to the press in general. this one instance, there was an error clearly the entire press is wrong. >> shepard: it is an again it's made to bring a sense around the white house, limit inquiry. in fact, the cnn example is precisely what should have happen. they did it well. scare mucci accepted their apology. they did learn something from the scene and example. when they get something wrong, being forthright, saying we have something wrong. >> shepard: it depends on what your goal is. news out of the white house is not different. the present is still optimistic. i think the idea about optimism
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is one, where you are trying to get this change, you would stick to it, you must stay optimistic peerless to connect find way. there is not a way to find a conclusion of optimistic today. >> that is right. where we are right now, mitch mcconnell a saint, we need more time. he's trying to play five dimensional chess. >> shepard: he is very good at it. >> he is excellent. he is kind of a smiled and laughed, this is a complicated issue. it's going to take more time. you can sympathize with that. it is a complicated issue. i think what they are trying to do was reduce the five dimensions to three, by doing it behind closed doors. that backfired a bit. some of the senators a saint, i just do not understand it enough. to be able to put my vote behind it. you have senators whose thinking went way too far, it will hurt medicaid enrollment in their state, where they need it like in nevada. you have other senators like rand paul saint, it did not go
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far enough. the united states should not be in the business of privatized insurance. that's a pretty good spectrum that mitch mcconnell still has to galvanize into a vote, get 50 of them, get the bill across. >> shepard: and the other matter was on syria in last night's note, they look to america like siri has done something that leads them to believe it is the same base, jets, about to make another chemical attack, and the united states same, we see what you are doing, do not do that. >> right. that could be a good move, right? having the launch missiles warned and armed. the pentagon and all agencies of the government knew that this statement was going to come out. you can argue both ways. you can say, it should been consolidated opinion appeared other hand, it may be the information was so secretive, they wanted one channel. >> shepard: we do not know yet what syria will do. we have no way of knowing what
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syria is going to do. and saint's direct impact we will do something if you do. that is the implication. the one thing that does do, he gets the u.s. committed to further involvement. the red line was crossed. at one point, missiles were launched. now, the administration a saint, it will happen again. implicitly, it will happen again if you go too far. if you use chemical weapons again. you can argue that giving them the warning rather than watching the missiles is better. >> shepard: good to see you. we share common ownership. now the question of the day is, if you are a republican, how do you get to a compromise? how do you bring the right, more conservative members of the party over to something that
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members who are more moderate will agree with? it is a tall order, and people at capitol hill will tell you, if anybody can do it, it is mitch mcconnell along with the negotiator and chief. will have that next.
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>> shepard: a headline from the fox news deck. iraqi forces are saying there closing in in mosul. activists say after 150,000 people are not trapped among ices holdouts. a memorial service for the navy sailors when their cargo ship collided off the coast of japan. killed seven sailors. the seven. flooded parts of the worship. the navy reported in investigating how it happened. here in new york city, city officials say, and activated emergency bridge because the subway to derail this morning
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injuring 37 people. passengers on the a-train, uptown, said they heard a loud bang and felt it slam into a wall. a knockout power to parts of the system and cause long delays, keeping people underground.
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>> shepard: continuing coverage of breaking news. republican senators speaking out as they postponed the vote. they are set to meet with president trump about this stalled bill. peter doocy. >> shepard, we've been talking about senators as you can, they have a lock down now, look like the capitol police bus is about to leave, taking them down, so they are not late for their meeting at the white house, but we have been talking to as many republican senators before they getting on the bus, about what we should expect this meeting to accomplish. we know they will not go, and suddenly schedule a vote for tomorrow or thursday. as originally planned. montana senator told us the
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since he got in the room and the since he expects to have from the room in the white house just a few. >> there will be a delano in the senate vote. what is the quick take away? >> i would rather get it right than fast. i was the comment there's still a lot of open ended things going on. policy changes the discussion will occur in the meeting today at the white house with all the republican senators. we'll have the president, vice president there and continue to down vest on. i think it is how the conversation. >> shepard: >> and david perduea told us on his way out, he thinks it is going to get done. there is going to some kind of better care package to replace obamacare. this summer, he does not think it can be something just because it is delayed, it is dead, potion of a better since i where
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things stand, how much new pressure from the white house, or less pressure in the next hour or so, by dinnertime. >> shepard: that is interesting. you know how many senators came out publicly in opposition to his bill? there may be more but doubt were not publicly. of the six, how many of them are going to see the present? >> you see right now, they're leaving right now. we spoke to of all the ones are really opposed, we talked to senator susan collins of maine on her way to the bus. a big issue for her was planned parenthood funding peer she had said if this were to get her support it would have to have -- but she wants to go to this last-minute meeting at the white house to hear the president outcome and this is ws to -- the president wants to have a meeting with me, i am cey willing to go and listen to what he has to say. i would say that i have so many
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fundamental problems with the bill that have been confirmed by the cbo report that it is difficult for me to see how any tinkering is going to satisfy my fundamental deep concerns about the impact of the bill. >> and sheppard, earlier today, late this morning, i spoke to the senate majority whip, from illinois. he was saying, he thought the majority leader was going to pull this off. he thought using wheel to wheel and deal, maybe offer the senators from ohio, west virginia, who wanted opioid funny for that. the reason he was so confident that mitch mcconnell will make a deal, mitch mcconnell had 200 million extra dollars that this money, this plan saved compared to the house plan. this as this balance,
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$200 million, so he can give something to do senator a data center to get them on board, but it did not happen, at least not yet, and that surprise some democrats and some republicans. >> shepard: we know what is happening, we can see from your blue shirt, starting to rain. are the process so going on there? >> looks like are still some people mulling about. there's a giant banner that said, we stand with planned parenthood. maybe hundred 150 people out h. a carbon copy of the one we saw the day before for the house voted successfully to replace obamacare with their bill. something about a month and a half ago. of course, they went from that side along to the side, it does seem like the rain is now sending a lot of them back to wherever they have to be come a shep. >> shepard: some i get that man an umbrella.
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peter doocy, thank you. another person to follow all the action is a senior producer chad berger, he'll be live with us to share what he has heard from lawmakers, many who he has worked in known for a while. ♪ phone with our allstate agent,
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senator from louisiana to vote yes on the bill. the cornhusker kickback for ben nelson, who is a democratic senator there. i've asked democratic and republican senators, what is different this time. that is the nature of horsetrading. i asked mitch mcconnell an hour ago. the senate majority leader, why four weeks in private, dialing in his republican senators, but not letting anyone in the public what is going on here, why he didn't have the votes? is that indictment? he said no. why? he said, takes more time, and that is a legislative process. but at the end of the day, shep, you cannot change congressional physics. in physics, you have newton's law of motion. give constance, the numbers. in the senate, give constance as well. they needed 51 votes to get this on the floor, and if you don't have 51 votes, a simple majority, you are up a creek, and there up a creek. in mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, did not want to roll the dice on that today.
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>> >> shepard: did he not anticipate that more moderate senators may think this is not enough for people, the medicaid cuts were too much or more conservative members want more or less government. is he trying to say, let's not do anything, and blade the democrats. >> you're at the polls here. your moderates on one side, who don't like it, get more conservatives on the other side i don't like it. the republican whip said every time you get one bullfrog in the wheel barrel, another one drops out. that's a process. yet moderates like susan collins on the fence, and then you have conservatives on the other side. it's really hard to get to those 51 votes. i was told that ron johnson, republican senator from wisconsin seine, he was a "no." that was a surprise. they had to start over? >> no, you have a baseline bill.
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in the meeting today, the director of the congressional budget office and some of his deputies were in them meeting. republican's have a lot of questions about the score. inevitably, they will tweak it in the next few weeks, and probably get an new score. remember, they continue to work the rest. i was told when they came out of that meeting, that some republicans did not like what they were hearing from the congressional budget office. and again, that is where you have republican senators try to have it both ways. they like the depths of reduction and the cbo score that was reported on the health care bill. they don't like the fact that the coverage numbers were not high. >> shepard: it makes sense. chad on the hill. so is good to talk to you. now, the president will try to do some arm twisting. he took all the republicans in the senate to meet with them at the white house, and with some live cameras of their movements. the buses armand dimmick are
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♪ >> shepard: we are waiting to hear from the white house meeting, republican senators meeting with the president at the white house this afternoon, presumably about health care if not exclusively. mike emanuel on the hill, monitoring the senators along the way. got anything? >> shep, talking to some folks on capitol hill, they expect the president will be charmer and chief, but also will get real with senators and that they all campaigned on repeal and replace obamacare since 2010. it is something he ran on, and now it is time to deliver.
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you can expect the president to have people around the table to see what they want in a new and improved bill, but also say, failure is not an option. there will be political consequences if they fail to get this done after all of them in the room campaigning on it, he may say, if you want chuck schumer to be the majority leader and nancy pelosi the house speaker, then you can say no to this bill. otherwise, you better get it done. >> shepard: the real reason, mike, largely unspoken that they want to get it done before the fourth of july holiday is obviously, they did not want to go home to their districts and face these town hall meetings that are no doubt coming in his uproar we have been seen from across the country. this bill, the house bill, had 17% approval across the country and more than half the people disapprove. there's no changing. >> that congressional budget office score, more people would be uninsured.
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does a gut punch to senators across capitol hill saint, how can i support this. how can i have 22 more people hopefully they can rework the bill, get a better score from the congressional budget office and perhaps, after the fourth of july, have something they can be sent back to the house and to president trump to have a signature. >> shepard: a talk all the time about repealing obamacare. was this a repeal, from your reading, or was the structure of obamacare still in place? >> that is something that troubles a lot of conservatives. they talked about repealing every last word. this did not do it. some would say, it is because of the special reconciliation measures here in the senates. what you can do to pass a bill with just 51 votes. they said, they were limited in terms of what they could get rid of. some conservatives would like to see more regulation stripped out of obamacare. it's not entirely clear if they
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would let it happen. if not, they can take a few more regulations outcome allow some of the insurance companies to sell cheap plans, they may bring down the cost of premium. on average, debt may get some more conservatives on board here will see if that pass the test with the senate rules and everything that has to get done in the coming days. >> shepard: they sound optimistic. do you buy? >> i've been told, failure is not an option. they've all campaigned on this forever. they have to get something across the finish line. the question is, white, and they need to get it done soon. they have more to do, the debt ceiling, tax reform. >> great to see you. if you're interested in yourself and your under obamacare, you may have insurance like we do at fox news, underwear, but if you are under obamacare you want to compare to what would happen in this bill, you cannot do that.
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♪ >> neil: you are looking live at the white house grounds, where momentarily at least 51 republican senators plan to meet with the united states. rand paul already had. he will be joining us this very hour to talk about his discussions with the president. at the time when he was meeting with the president, he treated that the president is open to making this bill better. if senate leadership, we'll find a very shortly. the full course on the administration to be nice and get all the sensors on board with the health care plan, that is proving a lot more problematic than the one that ultimately came out of the house. that is one that you know, it was being made