>> check out famous dave. he is a hall of famer and now you know why. >> we'll see you. >> we'll be here with more barbecue. >> bill: looks good. 9:00 in washington, d.c., good morning at home. it could come down to president trump pulling off the ultimate deal. there are clear divisions that remain inside the republican ranks. senate leaders forced to delay that healthcare vote until after the july 4th recess. where does that debate stand this morning as we say good morning. i'm bill hemmer live in d.c. in "america's newsroom." shannon, good morning back in new york. >> shannon: i'm shannon bream here in new york. plenty of high stakes negotiations ahead after a frantic day yesterday. president trump meeting with nearly all the republican senators in the white house encouraging them to get this thing done but to take their time if necessary. >> president trump: this will be great if we get it done and if we don't get it done it will

be something that we're not going to like. that's okay. i understand that very well. >> bill: here is where we stand. at least nine republican senators have come out against the bill. remember, republican leaders can only lose two votes and get it passed. meaning something is going to have to give here. yesterday leaving capitol hill and the white house many senators stayed and remained optimistic. >> i would rather get it right than get it fast. >> something as important as health insurance ought to be deliberated until people are satisfied. >> i believe we'll get to yes. it will take more discussions. and the most critical question is how do we lower premium? >> we have one more shot at this and i'm hopeful we can get to it. >> shannon: we'll speak to kentucky senator rand paul who currently opposes the bill. we begin on capitol hill with

mike emanuel. good morning, mike. the obvious question what now? >> well, shannon, kentucky senator rand paul is out with his conservative ideas putting them in writing and talks will continue as leaders try to find a deal by the end of the week. they hope to get an agreement and vote on it after the fourth of july break. kentucky's majority leader senator mitch mcconnell talked to reporters after last night's meeting at the white house. >> the one thing i would say is i think everybody around the table is interested in getting to yes. interested in getting an outcome. we know the status quo is simply unacceptable, unsustainable and no action is just not an option. >> that's the message i'm hearing from many republicans on capitol hill. failure is not an option. they have campaigned on scrapping obamacare since 2010 and they recognize their constituents are demanding

action. >> shannon: mike, any gleeful democrats on the hill celebrating after republican leaders were forced to change their plans after they said the vote was happening this week? >> we saw smiles on capitol hill on the democrat side but no victory parades yet. a a lot of democrats expect the majority leader will be wheeling and dealing to try to get the votes. >> senator mcconnell won't give up. he wants to get to yes and so does president trump even though their bill will mean families' healthcare costs will go up, it will gut medicaid and undermine protections for people with pre-existing conditions and throw tens of millions of people off coverage. >> senator chris van holland saying it's not over until it's over and not dead until it's dead. the fact that senate republicans has delayed the vote is welcome news but we have to double our efforts to fight over the july fourth

holiday and beyond. the struggle for and against reforming the health insurance system continues today. >> shannon: mike emanuel on capitol hill. >> bill: the man of the hour remains to be mitch mcconnell saying there are only a couple of ways this ends. here is more from him on option one and option two. >> it will be dealt with in one of two ways. either republicans will agree and change the status quo, or the markets will continue to collapse and we'll have to sit down with senator schumer. my suspicion is that any negotiation with the democrats would include none of the reforms that we would like to make both on the market side and the medicaid side. >> bill: so how do they move forward? there is one idea from the kentucky republican senator rand paul and they include the following. small businesses pulling resources and coverage. no bail-outs for insurance

companies, no mandate, no waiting period if the coverage lapses for any american. rand paul was a no vote before the meeting yesterday at the white house. he is with us live now from capitol hill and senator good morning to you. you met with the president as well yesterday. i just rattled off a number of ideas that you have now for the senate majority leader. your colleague in the literal sense from the state of kentucky. has he given you an audience on these ideas, senator? >> we haven't heard from anyone in senate leadership yet. i had a good meeting with the president. he is open to making the bill better. the bill keeps obamacare. we've given moderates in our caucus lots of money to keep spending. they get to keep the obamacare subsidies and regulations. they get to create a new federal super fund for insurance company bail-outs. those are all things that big spending republicans want. now if they want conservatives to be on board they have to start talking about what we

promised repeal. why don't we make the bill look more like a repeal. >> bill: you are pushing for that now and i'm trying to figure out how many are opposed. yesterday six. today we listed nine. maybe as many as 12 republican senators. what is your number? >> at least that. but i think what we need to do is pare back. we're trying to say we're going to do too much. guess what? healthcare was broken before obamacare. it got worse with obamacare. there are so many problems in healthcare. obamacare death spiral is so desperate i don't know that we'll immediately be able to fix it. what we ought to do is let's repeal the worst parts of obamacare and i'm not against working with democrats. no democrats will vote to repeal any taxes or legislation. let's not create a big new super structure of the federal government involvement. if that's going to happen work over six months in committee. if that includes democrats

let's do that and conservatives will oppose it but for the repeal, bill, let's make it more of a repeal bill and let's move on and continue to study the issue and see if we can fix healthcare. >> bill: i want to play two sound bites from yesterday. from susan collins. she said this yesterday afternoon. >> this president is the first president in our history who has had neither political nor military experience. and that's -- it has been a challenge to him to learn how to interact with congress and how to push his agenda forward. >> bill: i know you said you had a good meeting yesterday. what do you think of that comment about him learning as with we go? >> i disagree with that assessment. if you compare president trump to president obama. president trump is much more engaged with congress and gotten more done as far as being up here. vice president pence is here a couple times a week we meet

during our caucus meeting. we've repealed 15 regulations over $60 billion worth of regulations. we got justice gorsuch through. i think this president has a great deal of political savvy. on this bill he certainly moved it in the house and i think with his participation, his afwoilt connect with people across the united states. we haven't had anybody run for president that can get 20 to 25,000 people out. people mistake and think he doesn't have political acumen aren't watching the political scenery. >> bill: laura ingraham says it's on all you now. >> this is a complete embarrassment for the republicans. it's poorly coordinated. basically -- almost every state

you see the people revolting against what has happened on healthcare. they were supposed to deliver this. >> bill: will you? >> well, what i would say and one reason the bill is so unpopular is half the country are democrats, half are republican. all the democrats hate it. interestingly about half the republicans hate it. 75% of the public hates it. the half of republicans that hate it are conservatives like myself who went to rally after rally saying we're going to repeal obamacare and now we're not repealing it, we're keeping it? we need republicans up here who are saying we have to spend more money and we have to keep medicaid forever, the expansion. they need to get over themselves and they need to remember what they were for repealing obamacare. >> bill: history shows it's hard to pull back on an entitlement. yes or no. does it get done >> there will be a vote by august 1. we'll get to a majority.

i won't vote for it if it keeps obamacare. >> bill: thank you for your time. rand paul the republican from kentucky. thank you for coming back here. >> shannon: made it clear there. we know what it will take to get his vote. we have a packed show with much more on the healthcare debate coming up. house majority leader kevin mccarthy joins us at 9:30 followed by marsha blackburn in the 10:00 hour. >> bill: the entire trump team making its message clear to syria. no more chemical weapons attack on its own people or anyone. >> the goal is at this point not just to send assad a message but to send russia and iran a message that if this happens again, we are putting you on notice. >> bill: how should the u.s. proceed with syria still receiving so much support from russia and iran? we'll put that question to committee chair ed royce in

studio. >> shannon: former alaska governor sarah palin is taking on "the new york times" over an editorial that linked her to a mass shooting. details on her lawsuit against the paper. >> bill: there is progress on kate's law, the bill that would impose mandatory minimum prison sentences on criminal illegal aliens who come back into the country after once being deported. details on the vote set for the house this week. >> the sanctuary city stuff is just unbelievable. it's unbelievable. kate's law is a good thing. they can't get it passed. it's something we're going to do something about. if i win, believe me, we'll do something about it. we're going to do something about it.

>> are we supposed to buy what the syrians are saying that there are no chemical weapons operations underway? in the past we know they've killed their own children including women and children. if they say they aren't making preparations i'm not sure we'll buy that. >> bill: washington putting syria on high alert the white house saying the assad regime is getting ready for another chemical weapons attack and warned there would be a heavy price to pay. the wording from the statement from the white house. but with syria so strongly backed by russia and iran, what's the best way to proceed now? california congressman ed royce with me in studio in person. thank you for coming back. syria is on notice again.

are they listening to us? >> it remains to be seen. we're right to put them on notice because in the past they have used that squadron to carry out chemical weapons attacks. and in this particular case we're -- we've got special operations people over there in uniform fighting isis. and in that vicinity. and so we want to send a strong message do not bomb your people and do not drop these chemical weapons, and a reminder that we will be firm if they do. >> bill: what if he makes a move and does it anyway? >> probably just like the last occasion when they did kill 50 civilians, we took out or the president ordered 59 tomahawk missiles and they took out some 23 planes in that squadron that carried out that attack. and the goal here, as i indicated, is to send them the

message in advance not to do it in order to save lives. >> bill: if that's not the desired outcome, it's to make sure he does not act again. if the previous act did not convince him, how far do we go next time? >> so far it's convinced now. now there is evidence that they're preparing or thinking about another attack in terms of the steps that have been taken. so they're on notice not to do that otherwise that squadron again would -- this new squadron would be taken out. i think that's a strong message to send in advance by our ambassador nikki haley and by this administration. >> bill: there are some who question, including charles krauthammer, as to why you go public with this. he said this last night here. >> it is a new line and the real question is why was this a public threat on our part? we are now at a really high point of escalation because there will be no doubt if the

syrians defy us on this we have to act. >> bill: what about that? >> it's in our national security interests in my view to take what steps we can to prevent them from using chemical attacks again. and once more the one thing the administration is cognizant of is we're in that theater with some special operations people taking down isis. something we have to do because isis has been carrying out attacks around the world. so the sooner they're taken out, the better. in the middle of this, we have assad once again toying with the idea of dropping chemical weapons. i don't know another alternative that if he does it again -- >> bill: you mentioned russia and iran and tehran on moscow. so many influences in that country today. a bill in the house wants to

tighten sanctions on russia and iran. why is that not getting done if this congress is truly serious? >> now that the senate has some time on its hands, it should fix the constitutional problem in the bill. as you know, less than a week ago, this solution was suggested by the ways and means committee. it should fix that bill and send it back because our goal is to pass this measure as soon as possible. we need to send this message. this message to putin and russia that there will be consequences for their intervention in undermining democracies around the world and this is a good way to do it. the vote was 97-2 in the senate and the vote also will be very strong in the house. but we need to have that fix done and the bill sent over. hopefully before the fourth of july recess. that would be the time to do it. >> bill: some are suggesting that bill has been watered down.

>> it has not been watered down. it is a constitutional issue with respect to a revenue -- all revenue bills have to originate in the house. this one originated in the senate. that fix -- this issue was raised by the parliamentarian. it is an easy thing for the senate to fix. they need to fix it now and send it to the house for passage. >> bill: thank you, ed royce. 20 past is hour. shannon. >> shannon: the fight to crush isis expanding beyond iraq and syria where the terrorists have another country under siege. we'll tell you where and what the u.s. is doing to help. plus this. >> bill: they are trying to make the best judgments they could on behalf of the american people. >> shannon: hillary clinton's former chief defending former president obama over claims he failed to act on russia investigation hacks months before the election. president trump's legal team

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activity and they were trying to make the best judgments they could on behalf of the american people. >> shannon: earlier the morning i spoke with jay sekulow, a member of the president's legal team. joining us now, jay sekulow chairman for the american center for law and justice. we want the talk to you about what you heard from john podesta. him saying the last administration did the best they could with deciding what information to release about russia when they knew it. your reaction. >> that's one of the president's attorney first. here is what you've got. president obama knows all this purported activity is going on and does nothing about it. zero. he does nothing about it because he thinks hillary clinton will be the president of the united states. surprise, the president is now donald trump. so now we have a special counsel investigating the so-called russian probe and russian hijacking of the election. the russian hacking into the election when we know the administration previously had the information and did nothing

about it. here is my question that i would ask john podesta and anybody else. why do we have a special counsel dealing with the russia hacking when they had that evidence and did nothing, why don't we have a special counsel reviewing why president obama did nothing after he assured the american people -- he gets intelligence briefings but assures the american people that russia did not interfere with the election. he does that in october. i'm telling you what i think is owed here. an apology to the president and the american people and you know when the president said early on this was a witch hunt, every day that goes by i'm not sure that's fair to witch hunts to keep calling it that. it's beyond that. john podesta could come up with excuses but that's the real problem here. >> shannon: newt gingrich says he should give answers to investigators. how would it work legally? >> former president of the united states can be called to

testify before congress. i would like to hear that explanation. what has happened now, there has been this media frenzy on the so-called russia colluding, right? with no evidence from any intelligence officers, senators saying there is no smoking guns. some of the other cable networks are saying they acknowledge there is nothing there. so have the president -- i would ask president obama this question. if you were so concerned about russia hacking two things, number one, why didn't you do anything about it? number two, why did you tell the american people in october that, in fact, there was no way the russians could interfere with our election? that couldn't happen, no way they can change a vote, no way they can interfere with an election. that's what he told the american people. i would like to see him testify to that under oath. while we're bringing people under oath how about loretta lynch. i would like to see her explanation. >> shannon: the senate judiciary committee in a bipartisan request have sent a

request asking for documentation and other people around her for more explanations about her role during the election last year one lawmaker saying they may subpoena her. >> i think the oversight committee. there are a lot of things that should be looked at right now. this whole process we've now engaged in with the special counsel, with the multiple investigations, now look at where we are 11 months later. what do we know for sure? we know that james comey leaked information, that he got while talking to the president of the united states. he took his notes, put them on a government computer, put them in his government desk and leaked him when he got terminated. that's what we know. we know also there is no evidence right now, nothing on russian collusion with the trump campaign, zero. then take it a step further. the previous administration, president obama, fully aware what was going on. briefed by intel officials did nothing because he made a decision to quote not get

involved in the election which really meant we knew in his view that hillary clinton was going to win. i think the american people have the right to get some answers here and i think what really -- i'll tell you in my view is the real problem. we're spending all of this time, all of this money, all of this effort, which is not helpful to the country, i think it is damaging to the country, it's a distraction. and i think it's unfair not only to the president but unfair to the american people. i think the president deserves an apology and so do the rest of us. this process is just -- it is bordering on the absurd and we haven't even gotten into the conflicts of interest and who is on first and what's on second yet. that's a whole other issue to hit. as it stands now, this situation with the russian intel and the hacking, i think the obama administration has a lot to explain, a lot to explain and they need to do it under oath. >> shannon: the deadline for loretta lynch is next week. we'll see what we get from that.

jay sekulow, good to see you, sir, thank you. >> bill: in the meantime in washington the battle over healthcare back on the front lines. senators meeting with the president at the white house. getting a reminder that this is about the people and not the politics. so then who makes the next move on that? plus kate steinle fatally shot by a criminal illegal immigrant deported five different times. now the house is set to hold a major vote on kate's law designed to protect other victims. house majority leader kevin mccarthy will address both those issues next. >> sanctuary cities are magnets for illegal immigrants including some dangerous people with criminal records. this practice puts americans at risk and i believe the federal government should do all it can to discourage it. tomorrow is not a given. but entresto is a medicine that helps make more tomorrows possible.

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>> bill: 30 minutes away three big hearings on capitol hill. we are watching all of that.

house armed services committee talking about the country's military budget. u.n. ambassador nikki haley goes before the house foreign affairs committee. likely to weigh in more on the chemical weapons situation in syria. on the senate side the intelligence committee holding a hearing on possible russian interference in european elections. headlines from all three when they happen from the hill. >> shannon: the big story dominating capitol hill this morning the senate delaying a vote on healthcare. the president speaking with members of the gop senate trying to rally them. >> president trump: for the country, we have to have healthcare and it can't be obamacare, which is melting down. the other side is saying all sorts of things before they even knew what the bill was. this will be great if we get it done and if we don't get it done, it will be something that we're not going to like and that's okay. i understand that very well. >> shannon: earlier i spoke with house majority leader.

joining me now is kevin mccarthy. good morning, sir. as you're looking across the hill and watching the job senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has, how difficult is it to get everybody on the same page? >> it's not easy. this is not the end. we didn't make the deadline in the house but we worked together and found the ability to come together and move it through. the same thing will happen in the senate. it has to. every day we learn of a new failure of obamacare. just this week we found the 19th co-op out of 23 collapsed. they haven't been able to make it. >> shannon: what happens if they don't get something done in the senate and something you together can conference on when we get to 2018 when for years you have promised people you would get something done, is it worse for you not to get something done and let obamacare quote collapse as the

gop predicts it will or to be responsible for doing nothing to stop it? >> we can't sit and watch people's health deteriorate this way. we have to keep our promise like we did in the house. i expect the senate to keep theirs and us to get it done and move it to the president's desk. >> shannon: you're very optimistic. we'll see what voters have to say how it pans out in 2018. you're doing a lot of other things. there is a lot of other work getting done. you are advancing a couple bills dealing with illegal immigration including kate's law. what difference will they make? >> this is very critical. it will change lives. we all know what happened to kate steinle. she was murdered by an illegal individual that had come into country, arrested five times, multiple felonies, released. he then steals a gun, shoots and kills kate. that cannot happen again. and what this bill will do will

empower the ice authorities, withhold some grants to these cities that become sanctuary cities, not abide by the laws of america. even more importantly will allow the families to sue those municipalities if they want to break the law and not uphold the federal laws of america. >> shannon: you're referring to the sanctuary cities. when they were threatened at the federal level immediately sued. so we know that friction is going to continue to be there regardless of whether it gets passed or not. will you have any democrats support you on these two measures? >> we moved sanctuary cities before and kate's law as we're moving through this time but we had some democrats supportive last time when we moved the no sanctuaries for criminals. i'm hopeful they will continue to join with us. we'll have to watch and see because this resist movement in the democratic party about doing nothing i think is very hurtful to america. >> shannon: what about the senate? with the gop control there, there are some who are

skeptical about whether these two important immigration issues will get a vote in the senate? >> we'll have to put the pressure on and let them hear from the american public. they think it's wrong you could have an illegal individual get arrested for felonies and continue to be released and cause more crimes. we cannot allow more people to be murdered across this country. we have to do something about it and that's exactly what we're going to do in the house. >> shannon: what's the concern about the senate and why they wouldn't take it up? >> in the senate they have this funky rule saying it has to take 60 votes. the republicans will all be there but it takes another eight democrats to join with it. and so many times i've heard from the minority over the there that they want nothing to happen. their own movement is entitled resist. to have nothing happen instead of come together as americans first and actually solve problems. so i'm hopeful that they will listen to the american public and actually find democrats to

join with us to move forward. >> shannon: not every day we hear the word funky when talking about the u.s. senate. that's a first this morning. i want to talk to you about the interesting case out of california. you have a house member, u.s. house member who is an elect. he hasn't been sworn in. it has been weeks since his election. and apparently he told the "l. a. times" he wanted to stick around in the california state assembly to vote on an environmental issue but his seat is empty in congress, correct? >> he got elected more than three weeks ago. we had other special elections last week in south carolina and karen handel in georgia. they're already sworn into congress. i don't know what's going on with mr. gomez but he is neglecting his own constituents. what about the veterans that need help and others? he was in sacramento working. he got elected as a congressman. he should come here and work. he told the "l. a. times" -- the press ahead of time he

wanted to stay to vote for cap and trade because the democrats have a 2/3 majority there. they've already increased the gas tax on the california citizens and now they want to increase it even higher? he is neglecting his job. either he wants to be a member of congress and we should elect somebody that wants to come here and workday one. >> shannon: not every day that a gop leader would want a democrat to hurry up and get in the house. i understand what you're getting at. thank you for your time today. good to see you. >> bill: all right. 20 minutes before the hour. what next? what did the house learn from dealing with the white house to get its healthcare bill passed in may? marsha blackburn will address it next hour here. plus sarah palin versus "the new york times." why she is suing the paper over what some consider fake news. >> we will never be intimidated by the dishonest media corporations who will say

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>> shannon: a massive cyberattack on businesses throughout europe and asia. some of its targets kad berry chocolate and russia's oil company and some of those companies having to stop operations or go to backup systems. the software takes over hard drives and demands that each victim pay a ransom of $300 of digital currency bitcoin. not sure yet who is behind the attack. >> bill: sarah palin is suing "the new york times" after an editorial that tied her to the shooting of gabby giffords. they corrected it a short time later.

howard kurtz with us. the original quote june 14th. in 2011 written in the times. when laughner opened fire in a supermarket parking lot wounding gabby giffords and killing six people the link to political incitement was clear. before the shooting sarah palin's political action committee circulated a map of target electoral districts that put miss gifford's and 19 other democrats under stylized cross hairs. >> that editorial was mean spirited nraut out wrong and tone deaf coming the same day steve scalise was nearly killed and four other people wounded in virginia. to accuse sarah palin of incitement over this incident six years ago ignores the fact the gunman was mentally ill. no evidence he saw the political map which didn't have a picture of gabby giffords.

she has every right to sue but hard to win >> bill: it incorrectly stated a link existed between political rhetoric and the 2011 shooting of representative gabby giffords. no such link was established. the editorial incorrectly described a map distributed by a political action committee before that shooting depicting electoral districts, not individual democratic lawmakers beneath stylized cross hairs. that's a long correction. good enough or not? >> a monstrous mistake that needed to be corrected, the editorial board not columnist or reporter. the times said on twitter we're sorry to our readers the times has not apologized to sarah palin. if the paper had done that maybe this lawsuit -- >> bill: maybe had they put palin's name.

>> how about we're sorry. >> the times used false assertions about miss palin. they published and promoted the column despite knowing the false assertion that mrs. palin incited a person to murder six people. they violated the law and its own policies. in a legal sense does she have a case? what does the supreme court say about this? >> the supreme court has set a high bar for suing public figures called "the new york times" versus sullivan. you have to prove that something was published either with reckless disregard for the truth or actual malice toward the public figure. the fact that times ran a correction might mitigate the charge of malice. by filing this suit sarah palin

has already won. to prevail because she is such a public figure will be difficult. >> bill: you cover all this stuff for a living. cnn fired three employees this week or they stepped back and resigned. >> resigned. >> bill: you have the kathy griffin matter a couple of weeks back. you have a president in the white house who continues to talk about fake news. for his supporters, what does the accumulation of all these stories do to that claim? >> when there is a mistake particularly on the russia controversy on the magnitude that cnn committed which it has apologized for or the story saying james comey would contradict president trump, he said the opposite. when that happens, it feeds the notion when president trump attacks the media as fake news. he paints a broad brush and says we're all fake news which isn't true. any time a mistake like this happens there is a sense that we have such animosity toward

this president that a lot of stuff gets published that should never see the light of day. >> bill: seems to be happening so often. is that because of technology? is that because there are more news sources? how would you characterize that? >> technology gets us off the hook. the rush to be first and get it out there before somebody does contributes to the recklessness and sloppiness in some stories. it's easier for news organizations to justify attacking president trump who has gotten negative coverage, sometimes the negative stores east are legitimate. often as in the case of cnn they are not. >> bill: excellent points, howard kurtz. check him out on media buzz on sunday. >> shannon: in the middle of all of this deputy press secretary sanders going off on the media. you might have seen it at the briefing yesterday. several outlets are playing a dangerous game. >> if the media can't be trusted the report the news

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>> bill: folks on the new york city subway system a bit of a rough ride. the scene after a subway train derailed causing the lights to go out and smoke to fill the cars. you do not want to be there. 34 injured, treated for minor injuries in harlem, new york. everyone will be okay. we don't know why the cars derailed but they are looking at human error for now. caused a massive delay for the

city's subway system yesterday. >> shannon: wal-mart is holding a one day open call for aspiring entrepreneurs, hundreds are expected to show up to pitch their ideas to the mega retailer today. one rule. it has to be made in the usa. casey siegel is live in bentonville, arkansas to tell us more. >> good to see you. the executives here tell me this is one of their favorite days at wal-mart global headquarters in arkansas, the open call for inventors and entrepreneurs from across the country. in fact, 500 or so small businesses have descended on the home office to pitch their products. and they hope that they can get a deal to get their invention on store shelves or sold on wal-mart.com. people like this woman jessica gore is from the dallas area. she has been invited today because of her brain child tasty clean.

think of it as edible purell. an anti-bacterial liquid sprayed on things anything that falls on the ground and needs cleaning. she and her husband have worked on it for years. today they hope wal-mart picks them up and makes a deal. >> it's a really long journey and it takes a lot of investment, emotionally, physically. i have to sacrifice a lot of time with my family and on the road and i just have to believe in your product and yourself and chase your dream. >> bill: get this. 25% of the inventors today are women. wal-mart executives say 750 pitch meetings will take place today. some could sign multi-million dollar deals before leaving here this afternoon. everybody gets valuable business advice so clearly the stakes are high.

>> they will find items that will speak directly to a buyer. some maybe will be close, maybe we need to work on the cost and distribution but we'll test them and see what the customer says. >> this is the fourth year for the event. again the focus here products made in the usa, american businesses, and american jobs. >> shannon: all right. casey siegel. keep us updated. thank you. >> bill: we're only moments away from the start of three big hearings on the hill. they'll focus on russia, military spending and a second day of testimony from the u.n. ambassador nikki haley. we'll bring all the headlines to you when they begin from the hill. also what the republicans do next on healthcare. tennessee republican marsha blackburn is live here on that.

>> shannon: three big hearings kicking off this hour on capitol hill.

the senate intelligence committee is taking the next step in its investigation into russian election interference. the house armed services committee is tackling the military budget. and u.n. ambassador nikki haley is appearing on capitol hill for a second straight day. we have you covered. welcome to another hour of "america's newsroom." i'm shannon bream. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer in d.c. good morning to you. one of the most closely watched hearings today will be in the intelligence committee. lawmakers set to broaden their investigation to include russian interference to across european capitals. the president's attorney a bit earlier on america's newsroom said it should be a mute point. >> i would ask president obama this question. if you were so concerned about russia hacking two things. number one, why didn't you do anything about it? number two, why did you tell the american people in october that, in fact, there was no way the russians could interfere with our election? i would like to see him testify to that under oath.

>> bill: chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge watching it here in d.c. good morning. >> the senate intelligence committee is hearing testimony this morning from leading experts and former government officials about russian interference beyond the u.s. election. as you can see the witnesses are still coming together waiting for lawmakers and those all-important opening statements. the expectation is that today's testimony will cover what and how moscow learned from its interference in the 2016 election here in this country and how it is supplying those lessons across those across europe and beyond. john podesta testified behind closed doors and telling reporters after about the russian operations aggressive nature. >> i think the president and the entire administration were dealing with an unprecedented incident of the weaponization of the fruits of russian cyber activity and i think they were

trying to make the best judgments they could on behalf of the american people. >> it was just before the senate intelligence committee about a week ago where they heard from government witnesses who for the first time testified that the russian probing or scanning of state board of elections was much more widespread than previously reported. they counted at least 21 states that were impacted, bill. >> bill: the president's former campaign chair is back in the news. how come, catherine? >> manafort has filed for his work in the ukraine his spokesman issuing this statement to fox news that reads he, manafort, started this process in concert with the foreign agent registration unit in september before the outcome of the election and well before any formal investigation of election interfere answer began. his primary focus was always directed at domestic campaign work and that is reflected in today's filing.

he is the second former member of the trump campaign who filed retroactively with the justice department and both he and the former national security advisor mike flynn based on our reporting are subject of the special counsel's investigation. >> bill: catherine herridge in washington >> shannon: senate republicans -- kentucky senator rand paul telling bill last hour that one of the most vocal critics of the senate bill says this. republicans have to get it together. >> the half of republicans that hate it are conservatives like myself who went to rally after rally after rally saying we were going to repeal obamacare and now we're not repealing it, we're keeping it. so these weak-kneed republicans saying we have to spend more money and keep medicaid forever, the expansion. they need to get over themselves and they need to remember what they were for, repealing obamacare.

>> shannon: jonah goldberg is a fox news contributor. i will give you a swing at what you heard from senator paul. >> i think rand paul is exactly right. we're in this very strange situation where republicans ran for seven years saying we have to repeal obamacare, we have to destroy it, get rid of it entirely and they aren't doing it. it turns out they're dogs who caught the car and they don't want to get rid of all of it. the democrats are insisting it's a total and complete repeal. the mainstream republicans and democrats that is saying something not true. this is a complete repeal of obamacare and rand paul is standing out there basically alone looking like he is taking crazy pills because he is actually telling the truth. this is not what most of washington and most of the media is telling people. and what this is, something of a repeal of the expansion of medicaid but that was always sort of this tack-on to

obamacare. it is not about getting rid of the heart of what obamacare was about. >> shannon: you know, he has made very specific objections. he talked about the tax subsidies and credits and how it is obamacare lite. ted cruz is saying we need to roll back all the regulations. they know how to get my vote. we have objections at different ends of the spectrum. you have senators collins and mckoskie saying we don't want to vote for something that defunds planned parenthood. how does mcconnell answer all the interests? >> very hard. one of the circus acts where the balance beam and walking on the tight rope and takes weights off one end or the other. if he does anything to please cruz or paul he will lose heller or collins or others and vice versa. the problem is the path is incredibly narrow. most people say collins and rand paul will be no, no matter what. that means he has to get every

other republican to say yes to this so that mike pence can break the tie. and the problem is that mitch mcconnell is trying to balance people who want to say square and people who want to say circle and it is very difficult to reconcile those two things. maybe he can do it. i think he will be like one of those salesmen from the old movies who has a trench coat full of watches and start handing out to everybody he can. here is a tweak on the subsidies. more tax credit, better medicaid. maybe we'll get rid of the defunding of planned parenthood. each one of those things will offend somebody else. it will be tough. >> shannon: a piece in the "wall street journal" said yesterday. republicans can fix obamacare on their terms or they can collapse in disarray and bail it out on mr. schumer's. in 2018 they can defend an accomplishment or explain a way a failure. americans will know the difference. >> republicans have a

well-established gift proven by history and social science alike of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and if they, after seven years, win back total control of the government and can't fulfill their signature campaign promise, to get rid of obamacare and then they have to go to the democrats who know that they aren't going to have fingerprints on anything in the 2018 election and think they'll get a better deal from them. i think that's insane. >> shannon: it will be here before we know it. you know how the political cycle works. the elections are never over. great to see you today. thank you. >> bill: in the meantime house lawmakers expected the take up two major immigration bills this week. first one focusing on denying federal grants to sanctuary cities that choose to not cooperate with the feds. the second bill known as kate's law would strengthen criminal penalties for deported felons who come back into the country. house majority leader kevin mccarthy telling shannon the time to act is now. >> i think we'll just have to

put the pressure on and let them hear from the american public that they think it's wrong that you can have an illegal individual get arrested for felonies and continue to be released and cause more crimes. we can't allow more people to be murdered across this country. >> bill: peter doocy to talk about this and more. how much would these bills reshape the immigration system? >> they would reshape the immigration system significantly if either one becomes law because one of these bills, bill, the no sanctuary for criminals act basically says that lawmakers and sanctuary cities can't stop their police forceers from helping the feds enforce immigration laws. if they do, they are cut off from federal funds from the dhs and doj. the other bill known as kate's law lays out harsher penalties for people who return to the u.s. illegally after being deported. a measure that is seeking to

stop people like juan francisco lopez sanchez who was deported five times and on his last type murdered chris steinly. sean spicer strelsed the importance of these immigration reforms to the trump administration and the president will apply pressure to lawmakers today hosting an open event at the white house. like every other high-profile piece of legislation this congress has considered so far this year republicans will have to try to pass it on their own. the democratic minority whip says he will be telling democrats to vote against these measures, especially the crackdown on sanctuary cities. he does plan to give members more flexibility on kate's law, though. that is a very sensitive issue in red districts and blue districts and we expect a vote on both of these measures sometime tomorrow. >> bill: something to watch. peter doocy.

thank you for that from the hill here in washington >> shannon: anti-government protests reach unbelievable new heights in one country. sounds crazy but protestors stole a police helicopter and fired on the country's supreme court. the latest details on where this is all going down. >> bill: the white house holding its first on-camera briefing in days. reporters ripping into sarah huckabee sanders and she fired right back. why our next guest says that many media outlets are giving viewers artificial news. >> we've been going on this russia/trump hoax for the better part of a year now. this story gets covered day in and day out and i think america is frankly looking for something better. they are looking for something more.

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call for the president to step down from his post. >> if the media can't be trusted to report the news, then that's a dangerous place for america. i think if that's the place certain outlets are going, particularly for the purpose of spiking ratings and if that's coming directly from the top, i think that's even more scary. and certainly more disgraceful. and i hope that that's not the direction we're headed. >> shannon: deputy white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders ripping into a reporter who accused the white house of being inflammatory. my next guest is an investigative journalist who wrote a new book. this is a fascinating topic now. i don't know if you saw more of

the briefing but one local newspaper editor who stood up and really got into it with sarah and he seemed personally outraged about not having more access about them not answering questions the way he wants them answered. he took it as a personal affront and wore her out. >> in general the journalists who decided to take a stand against this president and announced in some instances that they're suspending the normal rules and procedures of journalism because they think this president is such a threat in many instances they really believe that. they are committed in some cases partisan, but just committed people who think they're doing the right thing. i think you'll get that sort of feeling from them. they are also being cheered on by the people around them like a feeding frenzy with sharks. >> shannon: do you think we're getting to a situation in journalism where the end justifies the means. these people may genuinely view this president as a threat to them and to the country.

that the rules have changed? >> yes, i think there is a fine line. we want to critically and carefully cover our institutions and powerful politicians, absolutely. they should be questioned. but when you do it in such a way that the public no longer believes what they're getting is the whole truth or sometimes the truth at all, you've undercut yourself because we'll get into an area where people hardly believe anything they hear at first blurb. that's how i am. i feel i have to do my own independent work to know whether it's true or not because there have been so many serious mistakes. >> shannon: when jim comey testified on the hill there were many times stories in mainstream publications were wrong but it wasn't his job to correct them. he couldn't do it. he said they were blatantly wrong based on leaks and those kinds of things. the president tweeting out as he has many times about this issue. the failing @ "new york times"

writes wrong story after wrong story about me. he said call your office, "the new york times" spoke to many, many, many members of your staff yesterday and ran everything by your team. it's clear he is very frustrated. >> we also know glenn thrush was hired by "the new york times" after he called himself a hack in dealing with democratic operatives and helping push the democrats' message and having transactional journalism which i think is wholely inappropriate with many cases. then he gets instead of roundly criticized, he gets a promotion by going to work for "the new york times" and being allowed to cover president trump. again, what he says comes with a grain of salt, i think, once journalists have engaged in this type of behavior. >> shannon: what else do you want people to know about how they may be manipulated.

they may be good people. the material they're reading but may not be accurate. >> if you listen to the players i interviewed who operate in the smear universe. they themselves will tell you. this is scary when you think about it. every image you run across in the news and comedy shows, it's being put there, they say, for a purpose by somebody who wants you to think something that may not necessarily be a consensus at all or may not be true. there are well-funded actors that use fake accounts on social media or powers of persuasion and a ton of money to try to manipulate what you think. when you see the common narratives circulating on news outlet after news outlet that everybody thinks this or that and you think i don't think that, trust your cognitive business. try to be aware you're being manipulated. >> shannon: advice for people who aren't sure. sometimes i see things and say, is this an onion? i have to check it out for

myself. that happens almost every week. >> me, too. i hate to say it. the news. we're supposed to be the ones that people know what to believe. instead i'm telling people who have time for this that you have to do a lot of your own original research. maybe watching the whole hearing on c-span or finding the press conference and seeing it from beginning to end to see if the context was correct. we're supposed to be doing that for them but we're in a time right now. i hope it's temporary. that people can't trust what we interpret. >> shannon: a good read for all of us. thank you for coming on. >> bill: 20 minutes past the hour. former national security advisors susan rice speaking out about recent criticism about her time in office and why she says that race and gender are the reasons why she was targeted in the unmasking scandal. we'll tell you all about that. also there is this. isis militants losing ground in

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>> bill: 24 past the hour. fox news alert. the commander of u.s. pacific forces warning isis terrorists are looking to open a new front in southeast asia. the battle in the philippines last may has been a wake-up call for that region. ralph peters is here with me. so you have this matter in europe where trained fighters were going to iraq and syria and going home and we've seen what they have done in brussels and in paris and london. is this effect happening now in

places like the philippines? >> what's happening is more dangerous. europe will be able to contain its islamist terror threat. you are talking about a belt of nations from the philippines, indonesia, malaysia, large muslim population. pakistan. these are largely muslim majority nations, the largest percentage of muslim population in the world in that belt and the radicalization had been contained but now with isis recruits coming back and also non-locals flooding into what are now viewed as terrorist safe havens it has the potential to explode. >> bill: the philippines largely christian. mostly catholic. indonesia a different story. >> the philippines 100 million people. 11% are muslims concentrated in the southern islands. indonesia is the most populous muslim country in the world.

230 million muslims. spread over 17,000 islands. it's a vast country. perfect place to hideout. long tradition of religious tolerance except in the far west, special case always radical. but now i've seen and been there and seen them getting more radicalized every year. traditionally indonesians practice a hybrid forms of islam. now the saudi money and gulf money is pouring in. terrorists are moving there. trouble coming every day. >> bill: we have this from admiral of the commander of the pacific courses. it's a wake-up call for every nation in the pacific. they're using combat tactics. the first time isis inspired forces have been together on this kind of scale. you suggest that geography is fate. how come? >> look where these countries

lie. the bulk of the world's cargo trade to europe, to africa, middle east, japan and south korea and china goes through the various straits. these countries dominate. and by the way, bill, this isn't a new problem. the united states has dealt with this before. after the spanish american war when we took the philippines from spain, among the toughest individual enemies we've ever faced in the u.s. army and u.s. military part from the apaches with the muslims and in the philippines. they were so ferocious, it was trying to knock down a meth head. we had to develop the famous .45 caliber pistol to shoot them down attacking us. we've been there. >> bill: to the original point about isis in syria and iraq and mosul and raqqa.

do you think their days are numbered there or will they go quiet for now >> the days of the caliphate are numbered. it is a matter of time, weeks or months. they've lost the battle to hold turf. but now they'll move to -- they might want to hold turf in the pacific. in the middle east it will be reduced to guerilla-type tactics that local governments will have to deal with for a long time to come. this is a great religious civilization in the middle east that has cracked up and gone to pieces. we can't fix it, they have to. it will take time. >> shannon: president trump trying to make good on a key campaign promise, building that wall along the u.s./mexico border. why you'll start seeing things that progress that very soon. details straight ahead and also there is a setback in the senate on the gop healthcare

bill. congresswoman marsha blackburn about what her colleagues in the house expect next. senator rand paul telling us what he sees to get on board. >> lets repeal the worst parts of obamacare, he let's narrow the focus but not create a new super structure of federal government. let's make it more of a repeal bill and move on and continue to study the issue and see if we can fix healthcare. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. manait's a series of is nsmart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress.

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with me now is marsha blackburn. is the big message in all of this is difficulty in trying to take back an entitlement after it has been signed into law? >> the difficulty is trying to unravel. the american people want to see it off the books. the escalation rate in insurance premiums is something that makes it unaffordable. the deductibles make it unusable and we knew it would be tough and we'd have to do it in phases. phase one is what we're doing right now, the reconciliation bill. budget reconciliation. we can do things that fit within that framework and we're already working on our third phase which is medical malpractice reforms across state line purchase of insurance, my bill and -- >> bill: those are big deals. do you get a sense of disappointment the senate did not move forward? >> we're all disappointed they didn't move forward. we sent them a great foundation

to work from. it was solid. it block grants medicaid back to the states and makes certain that pre-existing conditions are covered and we felt as if we had done a good, solid job that put us on the path to patient-centered healthcare and we're ready for the senate to put their mark on it and get it to us. we were willing to stay here this weekend and work through the weekend. >> bill: the whole house? >> yeah, i think you would have seen the whole house say absolutely. let's get this done. to the president's desk. it would have been a great independence day present. >> bill: senator rand paul last hour said the senate version has nothing to do with repealing obamacare and has other problems with it, too. he said this. >> they get to keep the obamacare sub sid daoes and regulations. they get to create a new federal super fund for insurance company bail-outs. so those are all things that big spending republicans want. now if they want conservatives to be on board they have to start talking about what we

promised repeal, why don't we make the bill look more like a repeal. >> bill: he came out with four new ideas today. can the senate get to yes when you have a minimum of nine that won't even allow it to go forward? >> i think the senate will get to yes. i have a lot of faith in senator mcconnell and having the senate work its will on this. i do believe they'll move forward. would we like to see this as something that is more fair to everyone involved in process, that allows individuals to have access to affordable healthcare up and down the range, absolutely. do we think we're moving that direction? yes, we do. >> bill: the white house, was early may, the president got involved after you sputtered in march, i think it was. you came back two months later. what did he do in may that enabled the house to get to yes?

>> he listened. the president is a terrific listener and helps individuals kind of work through assessing where they are and what can be done to move them, what kind of nuances can be done. vice president pence is very good at this also. they did a level of engagement to say all right, if we move this a little bit this way and this a little bit this way, then what does it do? i will tell you this, when you look at the engagement of the white house with the house and senate on this saying how do we solve this problem, systemically for the long term? so we aren't coming back and revisiting this every couple of years. that's what they're seeking to do, to put us on the path to patient-centered healthcare, to finish phase one. let secretary price begin with phase two with all the 20,000 pages of rules that are now part of the affordable care act and then us put the focus on phase three which is additional legislation which we deeply

hope will be bipartisan. >> bill: before we get to that come back to the white house involvement. i know mike pence has been working everybody on the hill. you probably don't get the yes unless the president was involved back in may. >> i think it did take the president. >> bill: if that is the case, is his level of involvement now where it needs to be? >> i do believe that it is. you had senators that were down there yesterday that were working with the white house staff and the president. and the president, i believe, will continue to work through what we see as the fourth of july week and will try to get something that can be scored by the cbo and ready for a vote. >> bill: thank you for your time. >> you're welcome. >> bill: it seems like it's a long way to go still. >> we're committed to it. we are determined to get this done. we promised that it will be done so it will be done. >> bill: thank you very much,

marsha blackburn. nice to see you in the studio. thank you for coming by. back to shannon. >> shannon: taking part in a unique project in the florida keys. it is challenge that helps to rebuild the corral reef but improves the life of our warriors. good morning, phil. >> five miles off florida's coastline is the florida barrier reef, the third largest in the world. today it's nothing like it used to be. now there are rising sea temperatures. however, there is a science-based rescue plan. >> good to go. >> justin lost a leg and nearly his life when a bomb exploded underneath him in afghanistan. >> the way you look at things and look at life changes. >> five years later he is helping save the life of florida's dying barrier reef.

scuba diving with his prosthetic leg and keeping his state of mind above the surface. >> it gives me a mission and purpose. even if it's coming here for a day and doing it, it feels good to accomplish something. >> he and a dozen other wounded warriors are working with a marine laboratory on an effort to take pieces of corral grown in their undersea garden and replant them on bleached out damaged reefs. supporting the marine ecosystem and the multi-billion dollar fish-related economy. >> bill: coral reefs. >> it's a way for us to continue to serve in a different capacity for the betterment of the nation. >> for the veterans, they get great therapy under sea and also for the marine scientists, they get free labor. everybody is happy.

during yesterday's dive they planted 500 little baby pieces of coral but the scientists admit in the big picture there are millions to go. >> shannon: you do have the worst assignments butd we thank you you're willing to take them on for us. thank you very much. >> bill: no question about it. he has the world. thank you, shannon. former national security advisor susan rice talking about the unmasking scandal and why she says race and gender are to blame for the criticism. our panel will take that on in a moment and then there is this. that's a police officer in a slow-speed chase with his own car as it rolls away.

>> bill: miami county sheriff's deputy forgetting one important maneuver during a traffic stop. here is the issue. the cruiser slowly rolling backwards, oh my, as he is talking with the driver he pulled over. the deputy tells the driver to wait. makes a mad dash after the runaway cruiser. he got a work-out but caught up with it before it hit anyone or anything. all is well. >> shannon: former national security advisor susan rice hinting that recent criticism of her time in the obama white house owes something to racism and sexism. in a recent interview she said she feels targeted by the trump administration and her being a woman of color could be part of it. here is the take on it. thanks to a glowing profile in "new york magazine" we know despite susan rice's public shortcomings. whatever happened to the filmmaker, she believes any criticism of her tenure is

partly the result of racism and sexism. josh holmes, former chief of staff for senator mitch mcconnell and president of cavalry and jessica tarlov, fox news contributor. she talks about heat she has taken over benghazi and says jake carney was out there also, white male. is it a fair assessment? >> the unmasking situation that's going on currently we know people on both sides of the aisle said she didn't do anything wrong. i don't think it's sexism or racism. i think it's partisanship. it happens on both sides of the aisle. we can't stop going at each other. there were issues surrounding the story about benghazi. we know those orders came from high command there. not susan rice's idea.

i understand the point she is trying to make. i would talk more about the partisanship and what's going on in terms of that than the argument about racism and sexism. >> shannon: she says in the article. i spent a lot of time thinking about this. what do you think? i do not leap to the simple explanation it is only about race and gender. i'm trying to keep my theories to myself. not because i don't have any of the she talks about three accomplishments the paris climate agreement, cuba policy change and what's the other one. i have it here somewhere. the iran nuclear deal. she seems to suggest that the president immediately going after and rolling back or attempting to take stabs at those three things is a personal thing to her in some way. >> it's confusing. she is trying to distance herself from some serious allegations. we don't know whether or not susan rice did anything wrong or not. that's what congress is trying to figure out. >> a number of people said she

didn't on both sides of the aisle. >> the bottom line is the documents haven't been produced and it's a serious allegation. prejudicial views are not having her lie about benghazi. what she said about benghazi is not true. she wonders why she is the center of the concern is because of her own actions. >> shannon: there are multiple ongoing investigations and requests for information from her and others. my understanding thus far she will not participate and take part in this. could she clear up some of those things about why unmasking was done and where leaks came from. if she goes on the record does it help her case? >> i believe it does. we talked about it a few weeks ago on this program where she should appear. the issue she wasn't given enough time to prepare and felt like it was partisan motivated. she got the request only from the republicans on the committee and not the democrats as well. but i think in these very trying times and while democrats are trying to mountd

this case about president trump and his campaign and collusion with russia it is important for everybody on both sides to come out and publicly speak about their involvement in the scandal. so i completely agree there. >> shannon: in the article she talks about how she had hoped to be a private citizen have more time with her family and move on and not be dragged in. do you think they thought hillary would be the president and not facing this kind of scrutiny and questioning or maybe just didn't get that what they did to some people -- a lot of americans, there were questions about what they did, josh. >> if you want to be out of the limelight doing feature spreads for magazines and doing all kinds of interviews about trying to distance yourself from the tenure that you had is probably not the best way to do that. look, i agree actually. she needs to come forward. she needs to talk to congress and be fully transparent about what she knows about the

unmasking of trump officials, american citizens. in the course of intelligence gathering. that's an important thing we need to get to the bottom of one way or the other. would be nice if susan rice would participate in the process. >> shannon: you used to work with mitch mcconnell. he has a really tough needle to thread with a lot of competing interests and a lot of people saying no now. he is a master strategist. does he get it done? >> yes. they had perhaps the most encouraging meeting to date yesterday afternoon at the white house. i spoke with a number of senators who attended the meeting who felt better about the prognosis until they had before that point. that meeting did a lot of good. they have a lot of details to work out over the upcoming days but i expect they'll put a package together over the weekend and into next week. hopefully get a cbo score and be ready to go when they come back in july. >> shannon: jessica will be watching. >> i disagree with what josh just said.

>> shannon: i'm not surprised. thank you for that your time today. >> bill: technology make massives strides some are making a guess about the future for your job. a few really rich people like facebook ceo mark zuckerberg are pushing an idea where everyone has a guaranteed income. so what is that figure? and is that a good idea? a closer look at that next. >> every generation expands its definition of equality. now it's time for our generation to define a new social contract.

>> shannon: could be late summer before we get more details about a proposed u.s./mexico border wall. officials in customs and border protection say they still need to get construction prototypes for a fence in the san diego

area. the agency has not signed any contracts yet but is reviewing proposals. >> bill: the idea of guaranteed income, minimum income for every american is being floated by some really rich people. their concern is with technology, the technology will eliminate millions of jobs. certainly there are critics in all this and james rosen has a look at that this morning. good morning. >> good morning. whether a universal basic income would replace the social safety net already provided by state and federal governments or would supplement is one of the critical aspects of this plan that arouses debate. the concept of a guaranteed income is undeniably experiencing a revival of sorts. mark zuckerberg endorsed the idea in his harvard commencement address and musk has spoken in favor of it. forecasting 40 to 50% of all jobs in the united states today will be eliminated due to

automation within the next 10 to 15 years. futurists and labor market analysts are asking what will become of all those workers displaced by technology and whether society at large seeking stability in such a radically transformed economic environment might not benefit from some orderly redistribution of wealth and whether federal agencies like darpa, should be using taxpayer funds to pursue robotics, the projects that will displace those taxpayers from their jobs. >> the challenge, i think for public policy, is to make sure that workers are equipped to work in the new kinds of jobs that the economy is creating. i think the wrong course of action is to throw in the towel and say well, there is simply nothing that can be done and there is going to be this large, large segment of society that can't contribute to the labor market. >> more on this on special

report at 6:00 eastern. follow me on twitter. right after this segment i'll tweet out which modern president of the united states proposed a guaranteed income and what happened when he did. >> bill: i'll be right there. see you later. we'll find out whether or not the new technology creates a job market as well. good stuff, james. see you later today here in washington shannon, what's next? >> shannon: more healthcare defections by gop senators putting the healthcare bill in a precarious position. can they repeal obamacare? a live report from capitol hill at the top of the hour. i no longer live with

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