>> tucker: could evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight" ." president trump's speech in poland last week may have been the single best thing he has had allowed since entering politics. and for one reason. it was a rousing defense of western civilization. he would think speech is doing that would be unusual, the only reason you hire leaders in the first place is to defend your civilization. especially ours. which is the foundation of pretty much everything we have. our history, our language, art, science, law, our entire culture. america itself is the product of western civilization. it think the people running the west would want to defend all of that. but no. it was left to donald trump to do it.

>> we write to ships in these. we pursue innovation. we celebrate our ancient heroes, embrace our timeless traditions and customs. and always seek to explore and discover brand-new frontiers. the fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? >> tucker: admittedly, president trump is a polarizing figure. but the words he just heard him speak it shouldn't be controversial. the west is indisputably the freest, the cleanest, the fairest civilization and history. that's why so many immigrants want to move here. it's definitely under attack. that's what isis and the berkeley rights are about, and it will fall if we don't guard it. everything on defended definitely does. trumpeters don't want to admit that because it's true, but they can't admit it.

they called us speech bigoted. the line about symphonies especially bigoted. >> he threw in there, we write symphonies. that's what triggered the alarm bells for me. am i wrong in making this parallel between steve king, president trump, and white nationalism? >> you seem to embody and enshrine that belief that the west should steal itself for a class of with other cultures, other beliefs. which pretty much spelled out the muslim world. speak of is not a speech he could've given anyplace else. this is a white, america first kind of speech. >> tucker: so extolling the virtues is racist? slate called it white nationalist, according to the atlantic is religious paranoia. let's pause for a second and consider the argument the president's critics are making. trump actually didn't say a word

about race. not one. he talked instead about art, innovation, science, free-speech, and democracy. those are not racial categories. those are stamens about beliefs. beliefs that could this country and have sustained for centurie centuries. the question is has the left actually rejected those beliefs, those values? can we know longer agree that free speech is better than censorship, that representative government is superior to dictatorship, that our civil code is preferable to sharia law? what a real doing the same country, how can we keep living together, what is the point of all this? there was a time when the american left grappled with questions like those. those the real questions. i was a time for the progressive movement became governed by a reactionary impulse to destroy the institutions that made it possible. purely for the joy of destroying them. tearing it all down. the left is to have ideas they believed in, culture, they think symphony is a sign of white privilege. what happened, and can the purges be far behind questioning

redwood house will number it he joins us now. brad, why are symphonies a sign of white privilege? >> i don't believe symphonies are the issue. count me in the category of people who don't think that we should overanalyze speeches written for donald trump to rea read. his men is not intellectually curious. we haven't seen the stories of the one has about him sweating over the details of speeches with the yellow pad. i'm not convinced that the words he speaks, that he even really realizes what he's saying. that said -- >> tucker: the president is responsible for what he says. the genius who occupy the office for eight previous years never give a speech like this defending's western civilization. so i wasn't it so offensive? >> words like western civilization are not in and of themselves words would raise alarm bells. we are proud of western

civilization. the question here is, you've got to contextualize. the man that wrote -- steve miller, he's a protege of steve bana. stephen bannon was a leader of the white nationalist movement. his favorite book, one that is a grotesque book about minorities minorities -- >> tucker: let's look here. you're saying because a guy writes a speech knows a guy you don't like that it makes it -- let's deal with the text of the speech. our civilization is superior and we need to defend it, and people and left our having that paid why can't you say that? >> why can't trump a more extol the type of remarks that george w. bush made in poland, twice in 2001 and 2003. he didn't want to say that western civilization should keep others out, that western civilization should retreat. he said western civilization should be a beacon to the world and it should promote freedom and democracy. >> tucker: that's kind of what he said.

>> trump didn't say that. tucker, you are a wordsmith. you know that words have meaning and that there are dog whistles and words. spare let's get back to the text. words matter. i think these words come out everyone, and whatever people think -- the words themselves are offensive to those in left because they are considered nationalistic, exclusive, they somehow put western civilization above other civilizations. my argument be that if you are a leader, you ought to believe it is superior, and the left doesn't. >> first of all that's not true. this is not just about western civilization. let's take sebastian -- he's -- >> tucker: know i am not going to take sebastian. let's get back to -- >> he talked about the speech before was given. he said it was a speech that extolled western civilization, which is fine, and christian values. but those to two terms put

together are a dog whistle white nationalists. what you're really talking about christian, european, and white. >> tucker: but this is a country founded on european culture. so appealing that tons of people from africa and india and latin america who are not of european ancestry want to come here because they like the ideas. see believe this country is racially exclusive, but all these people from the federal don't appear to believe that. they want to come here because it's a great country and they agree with the values it was founded on. why does the american left not agree with them on that? >> i believe that everyone should look at western civilization, christian values as a beacon to the rest of the world. >> tucker: 's what is wrong with the speech? >> what donald trump places we should ban muslims. he believes that mexican immigrants are racist and murderous. he believes -- but tucker he ran -- >> tucker: these are real questions.

europe has had a culture, a distinct culture, a series for thousands of years. all the sudden a ton of people moving who disagree with the tenants of that culture and they are changing it. my question, really simple, as the culture into which they are coming, the western civilization we are talking about, superior to the culture that these immigrants are bringing? sharia law, theocracy, the middle east. is ours better than theirs? it's a really simple question. >> i can't say that because i don't believe all the things you are saying. i don't believe that people are bringing sharia law into the night states. some extra religious law -- >> tucker: i making a pretty -- bill clinton would've made this, almost any mainstream figure would've made this 30 years ago. you come here, you've got to buy into our values. freedom of speech, tolerance, -- >> tucker: to make >> with that i don't have any problem

whatever conservative -- who are the speech, these people spewing out even know what white nationalist means and i'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole >> tucker: i want to address the issues. if you are a country with 3359 people who don't share common values, what is that country not break apart question this is something the left and never, even if it encourages mass immigration, people don't agree with the people who live here. >> on time within american culture with patriotism. i don't believe that the only people who are worthy of being american or being in western civilization are christian. >> tucker: he's not arguing that. what are you talking about? you try to make the scared. i'm going as the last question. what is these market values that all immigrants ought to share? >> freedom of speech, freedom of

the press, freedom of religion. the practice of religion. >> tucker: i don't know that anyone disagrees with that. no one said that out loud. >> the president ran on a campaign of banning muslims for coming in the country, that raises a lot of questions in my mind. about his commitment to -- >> tucker: he says if you don't share our values and want to impose your system on hours and you are willing to use violence we don't want to. >> if you have people that are numb to practice violence or known to be involved in terrorism, he was banning all muslims in the campaign, and the nikos gives a white nationalist speech in poland. >> you know it. stoking the fire with hatred like that will get you nowhere. >> had white nationalist elements. >> tucker: we are out of time unfortunately. need to move to the common sense portion. thank you, brad. more in the reaction of the president's speech and the

backlash against it, we are joined by charles krauthammer, writer and columnist who is perhaps the finest example of what western civilization can produce. charles, as is the white nationalist speech? >> i disagree when you said we are out of time, unfortunately. i think that was fortunate that you are out of time, because that was a ridiculous discussion. the idea that somehow a defense of western civilization is white nationalism is simply so absurd it's almost ridiculous to debate it. john kennedy's inaugural address under those categories would be a white nationalist speech. he is the hero of american liberalism, at least in this generation. he gave a speech in 1960 which was a rigorous defense of the values of the west. nobody would've imagined to say that's white nationalism. the fact that donald trump has had other stuff at other places makes that an interesting speech. i pointed out that i thought the

speech in warsaw was a total contradiction and reputation of its own inaugural address. which i thought was very nationalist, very narrow, very america first. he was a man defending western civilization with large, which is exactly the main idea that liberals and conservatives have carried ever since the second world war. >> tucker: but they no longer do. that's kind of the question, what you do with the country where huge percentages of the population don't agree on anything? i do mean just transgender bathrooms are tax rates, that an agreement civilization -- >> i think that's a failure of the liberal elite, because that's what they preach. control the universities, they control all the elements of the culture. they have basic upper hand in all the elements of the culture. i'm not saying they control all the media, obviously. you and i are speaking freely and otherwise, but what they

teach our children is that the psychology of western history, the sins of the fathers, just on a civilization on earth that is not founded on crimes and sins. what distinctions the west is how it's redeemed itself in so many of these areas. the abolition of slavery is a western invention. not slavery itself, slavery is ubiquitous. the glories of our civilization are not taught. you raise a generation who is taught only about the path though history of one's country, and they ended up in different or hitting it. that's the problem. i do think it's immigration. i don't think it's the threat of sharia law. it's an internal rot, and i don't think that trump addressed that. the civilization has to believe in itself. at the beginning of the end of any great civilization, even the not so great, as when they begin

to doubt themselves. that happened with the soviets in the 80s, gorbachev was the first who realized this was a rotten system that didn't have a future. that was inhuman and impractical, and that's when it fell apart. >> tucker: so if you articulate a short list of precepts of beliefs that every person coming here or living here ought to share in common, what would they be? >> i think it's a day she find people floating in the south china sea on the raft, having escaped the country and they want to come here why? free speech. the ability to be able to live your own life and by your own light. that's essentially the main elements. freedom. statue of liberty. that's what attracted immigrants for 200 years. or even lived out in a system that actually honors and protects it, that just speaks about it.

that's the one thing that distinguishes us. we are not liberty equality and fraternity, where nation of liberty. we've a statue not of equality but of liberty. that's what people want. >> tucker: and it works. charles, thanks. stay right there come over and ask you something else in just a minute. it's cnn anchor versus kellyanne conway on the russian conspiracy theories. we have the highlights and the lights. plus george clooney's family is fleeing europe. why? to get away from terrorism. our inaugural hollywood walk of shame panel takes on that next.

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>> tucker: if you've watched seen in the last couple of days will be up-to-date on the latest installment in their ongoing russia conspiracy soap opera. here's the latest. apparently donald trump, jr., met with a russian lawyer who said she had damaging information about hillary clinton, this happened during the campaign. currently the meeting was a bust in the end. there was no good information about hillary, and so donald trump, jr., has said. the two wound up talking mostly about adoption. trump, jr., left without any dirt on the rev campaign let alone any agreement to sell his country, but the cnn it was the story of the century. here he is trying to explain how important it is to kellyanne conway. >> know what you be more troubling, that he would take a meeting not knowing who it was

but it was important enough to bring jared, or that donald, jr., would knowingly meet with someone with kremlin connections on the basis of getting research about hillary clinton. >> you keep saying opposition research, the way you guys constantly vomit words like collusion and russian interference. all of what you have no evidence. >> if you accept everything he says is true, and there's a credibility issue because he changed his story twice. he's changed his story. >> i admire your moxie sitting there talking about credibility. >> listen, -- >> you've invested for months and something that simply doesn't exist. you want to talk about russia, i don't talk about america. >> but there are reasons why you don't want to talk about russia. it's my responsibility to cover things that matter to the american people. the media matters, we shouldn't disrespect each other. give each other the benefit of the doubt. first of all, it's my shepherd this is what i do. i talked to the television.

>> the snarky looks, the furrowed brows, the rolling of the eyes from some of the people in your panel, you guys made a business decision to be anti-trumpet >> and you guys it also makes the decision. he made a decision to be antagonistic towards media, to lump us together, to rally your followers to think that we are bad people and attack us online. >> with a free press, comes a fair price. and a fully responsible press. >> tucker: those kind of revealing. did you notice at the end kellyanne conway said cnn has made a business decision to become the anti-trumpet network. kind of a strong charge since that if true it would bear no resemblance at all to journalis journalism. in it chris cuomo does not bother to deny that or even seems surprised, but why would e, it's true. the interview lasted more than a half-hour, and yet there is more. he went on facebook to post about how great he was. >> waited a long interview with kellyanne conway, because we

care. to those who say you are too hostile to the president, who else would give kelly in that amount of time? who else? nobody. why? why do we do it? because we believe in the conversation. we believe in things being better. we believe in a nonhostile dynamic. >> tucker: we may start doing a series of these facebook posts. this is gold. none of the seems to be working for cnn. they dipped below nick at night sitcom ratings. for those of his current home, that's not home. charlie charlie gard is gettingt shot, his parents are hoping that he can extend his life. they want to pay for those treatments themselves, but a panel of british doctors say the boy should be killed immediately instead and they are calling that mercy. a judge on britain's high court has given his parents evidence that their son should be allowed

to live, come to the united states for karen. a thursday hearing will decide ultimately what happens. charles krauthammer is among other things a physician and he joins us to talk about this. there are two different ways of looking at this. we talked about this. one is from the personal perspective, and the other is from the legal perspective. much of the parents do and which of the state allow the parents to do. how would you divide those up? >> i think the real tragedy here as there are two principles. they are essentially the parents, but the parents can be wrong. and with the teller at the two facts. in this particular case, i think the parents are wrong. they for me looking at the objective evidence i think this child is in terrible distress. he can't hear, he can't see, he can't move. he cannot swallow. he's into beta. i've been interbedded for weeks at a time. i can tell you it's the edge of

despair, and this child can't speak. i was an adult at the time, i could speak. he can't speak. the merciful thing to do, i believe, if it were my choice, if i were king, would be to remove the tubes and allow child to die. the parents think otherwise. i think in the end, these issues are irresolvable, and therefore we ought to allow the decision to be made by those who love the child the most, who have the most pure of motives. in this case it's the parents who want to bring him to wherever. i think this is a cruel hoax. this holding out of hope for a disease that is utterly incurable. there are people this happens every time, you have a terrible case like this, some hospital or doctor will claim he's got some kind of new treatment. i don't believe a word of it. however, the parents do. they want to bring charlie here

for treatment, i say they ought to be sovereign or to be the ones to decide. it's a tragedy. >> tucker: it is. when everything about their decision, do you want to live in a society where the government can make this decision for your child? when did we see to the right to make these decisions for our own children ? >> i can give you an extreme example where you would agree. the state ought to step in. >> tucker: if they're negligent or crazy or drunk or something. >> if the christian scientists and they don't want to allow blood to be transfused, the state steps in and says i'm sorry, you are no longer sovereign, your endangering them. >> tucker: the status stepped in here to kill the child. >> i think hill is a loaded word. this is a stepping in to remove the artificial means that are being used to keep the child and what i would call a state of utter distress. at the best.

look, parents can make a mistake. the state at some point has to step in for parents who aren't insane. but who may have a religious belief or some other that threatens the child. but these are rare cases, and i think that generally speaking since there is no way to adjudicate this, and a way that is objective, there are no objective values, it has to be in the hands of the parents. which is why i would say to the state let them do what they think is right for the child, even though i disagree. >> tucker: of course. there are many things that you see people do with our children need disagree with, but parents have to be in charge. >> there is no other rule. there is no other bright line you can follow that would be reliable. that's the most reliable. >> tucker: thank you. >> parents care more.

>> tucker: even as you sleep, he's carrying. finally happened. jesus is now a hate crime. last friday painting of the crucifixion was found outside the hillside islamic center in new hyde park new york. that said, just a painting of the crucifixion put it inside that the muslims on the back, didn't even say jesus saves. it's just a painting. nevertheless, it's now in the hands of police. the county cops are looking at the painting as, brace yourselves, a possible hate crime. presumably because now hateful to remind people to christianity exists. hard to believe and what is going to go over this, so obvious they we will keep you posted if anyone does. that's hardly the point here. law enforcement has been so bullied by the progressive thought police in this country that they felt obligated to investigate religious art is a crime. in other words, to play along with the fantasy that you can hurt somebody by expressing unfashionable views. meanwhile, murders go unsolved for lack of manpower. it's the brave new world the

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collective, and it says that donald trump selection is caused a surge of fascist violence in america. they want to establish their own antifascist jim to teach the left how to fight back. she is a participant in the new project. that's not the real name, but a pseudonym we were given. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: so, i'm here to take it seriously. you are starting a gym to prepare yourself for the coming war? what he preparing yourself for? >> the conflict has already been established. we've seen since 2016 it's been a 20% increase in hate crimes both nationally and in the city of chicago. we know that there are certain parties that are vulnerable to attack. that there's been an increase in racism and xenophobia, and that we feel that it's necessary for us to learn self-defense skills so rather than feeling frightened and isolated and alone, that we can come together, build strength in solidarity with one another with

an autonomous gym formation. >> tucker: i'm for free association. i'm for james. i'm not against this. i just sort of wonder if your concern isn't misplaced, chicago was a really dangerous place. i think you had about 2,000 shootings so far this year. i don't think any of them were perpetrated by trump supporters, any of them, so maybe you got other things to worry about. >> according to statistics, we do have some and to worry about. the cato institute records a vast majority of the violent extremism comes from white right-wing nationalists. we also know that according to statistics, 80% of deadly terrorist incidents within the node states are perpetuated by people who feel that other bodies, different people, racism, religions don't belong. when i think about the threat that i'm facing, -- >> tucker: unwanted trip, those are made up statistics and your some time looking at them.

>> you are welcome to look at the statistics. they are provided by the cato institute. they are also provided by a california state university. >> tucker: you got me there. let me ask you this. if we could just bring it from the national to the local, 11 chicago which is i think this is the correct statistic, has had about 2,000 murders just in the first seven months. how -- rather, shootings. how many of those were perpetrated by right-wingers do you think? >> again, look at the chicago police department. they do collect information. we are more interested in the hate crimes that have been occurring to people like myself. >> tucker: ride, but when people are shooting it's 2,000 people. i don't think any of them were bias crimes against people like you, as you just put it. i don't think any of those were trump supporters pulling the trigger. do you know otherwise? >> carlton, if you don't know

i'm not going to give you the statistics. when i take the bus home alone by myself on public transportation, i don't feel safe because just may 26th in portland, on the light rail, there were two black women who were approached and confronted by a white man who calls himself a patriot. three other white men came to those two women's defense and they were stabbed in the neck. two of them died. >> tucker: i saw the story. it's an awful start. i'm just saying in the city that you live, because you live in portland, i made the point, but you've had 2,000 shootings and none of them or by trump supporters. but that doesn't bother you, stepping up train in portland does. it seems a little disassociated. where you on the question of gun ownership question >> tucker, on the question of what you're doing, we are providing a self defense -- that people can learn

martial arts. so people like me don't feel like they can't ride public transportation. >> tucker: i'm not a shrink or anything but i'm just worried that your fears may be a little bit overblown. like you've got a terrible gang problem, but that doesn't scare you. if you're to go to the south side would you be worried about trump supporters down there? >> tucker, i live on the southside number one. >> tucker: how many trump supporters in your neighborhood? >> quite a few, i'm sure you can look it up. on the question of gun ownership, even owning a gun doesn't protect you. linda castille was a license going to win her and told the officer while he was shot on facebook live in front of his 4-year-old daughter and his partner. gun ownership should be something they should be given to the national rifle association as to why they are not -- >> tucker: can ask a question. if you are against the system think the system is racist and you want only the cops and other government officials who you believe are racist to have guns, how does that work? >> i don't understand your

question. what we are saying is -- >> tucker: if you think america's institutionally racist, why should only government officials, police, national guard, soldiers ought to have guns? why wouldn't you want a gun, to too? >> if you bring me on your show to talk about the project that we are starting, the project restarting is a self-defense gym. people can learn hand-to-hand self-defense. >> tucker: i just feel like guns or more effective than karate chops. >> on the question of guns, we don't have an answer because what we're doing is starting a project is where we are. what we know is that we need to grow strength together. we have to learn the responses physically to respond some of these incidents that are happening. the question for me again is not on people shooting with guns, the question is incidents like the murder of a woman who was murdered on a walk from her mosque to a mcdonald's. spirit was she killed by a trump

supporter? wasn't she killed by an illegal alien? >> she was killed by men who decide to go after her with a pet. >> tucker: that was not a trump supporter. that example. we are out of time. >> i don't know why -- >> tucker: sorry. jfk, jr., was just aggressively attacked by john oliver for his use on vaccines. he joins us next to respond to that. you hungry? i'm okay right -- i'm... i'm becoming my, uh, mother. it's been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. pumpkin, bundling our home and auto insurance is a good deal! like buying in bulk! that's fun, right? progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto.

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a mercury-based preservative. for years, rfk, jr., has made a crusade against it. just this year he gave a speech where he said this. >> 33 years i've been working to get mercury out of fish. nobody is ever called me anti-fish. because i want mercury out of vaccines i should not be called anti-vaccine. >> for a start, why would anyone be called anti-fish and be ashamed? fish are stupid, look at them. look at this idiot. >> tucker: robert f kennedy, jr., joins us tonight. the response to that piece that john oliver did really struck me. i think if you, as someone who is a democrat and a liberal, they piled on you. why? why is raising questions about the safety of vaccines a no-go zone on the left? >> it's interesting because it's

not consistent with traditional liberal skepticism, towards large power and specifically the pharmaceutical industry. and government agencies. it's been characterized by at least four federal studies as a cesspool of corruption, because it's pervasive, interactions, entanglements. with the vaccine industry. the cdc vaccine branch has -- is a subsidiary of the vaccination industry. at cells $4.1 billion worth of vaccines a year. at about $4.6 billion, most half of its budget, promoting vaccines. only spends $29 testing vaccines. that's good for a tiny handful of the vaccines that we have. one problem recently is with

various federal agencies, and one of the kind of shocking things about vaccines is that there's very little safety testing. if you have a normal drug, like viagra, if you want to bring that to market, typically the fda requires you to do double blind studies. you take 9,000 people, given the pill, 9,000 people and give them a pill that's identical except it's sugar. then you look, you watch typically for around five years, and see if there is harm. with vaccines, all of those requirements are waived. >> tucker: i don't know what to think of that, i've many children, they all got vaccinated. i'm not against vaccines. but i am for asking sincere questions, and i suspect -- i'm deeply suspicious of people who shoot down those questions based on the fact that they are unfashionable. i don't understand why all the sudden you are not allowed to ask sincere questions. i don't like you are getting paid for this.

>> i'm not. i'm getting unpaid for this. it's been probably the worst career move i've ever made. but if it is deep blue -- it's deeply concerning because if you look at the vaccine schedule, it is expanded dramatically since 1989. in 1987, congress passed a law giving blanket immunity from liability to vaccine manufacturers. suddenly vaccines became catered. it was a gold rush to put new vaccines on the schedule. i got three vaccines when i was a kid and was fully compliant. my children got 69 vaccines. today's get 74 vaccines. 74 shots of 68 vaccines. nobody has ever tested what all those vaccines do together. in fact, none of the vaccines have been tested at all for the illnesses that are associated with them. >> tucker: i don't know if the answer is. but i know the questions ought

to be. and yours have a place in the short as that. anybody was sincere questions. >> that is kind and courageous of you, because as you know most television hosts will not let you want to talk about this issue. on the evening, there are typically 17 out of 24 advertisements are pharmaceutical advertisements. most hosts are frightened of that. >> tucker: i don't think we -- i think we are asking us questions. thank you. >> i appreciate it, tucker. >> tucker: george clooney loves refugees from the middle east, but not that much. they are reportedly fleeing britain to escape the threat of terrorism in part from those refugees. is this a self reflection from little people, we have a panel to discuss it next.

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>> tucker: time now for the hollywood walk of shame, where we -- i'm not going to explain the segment, and it's obvious. the hollywood walk of shame. there's a lot of shame and we plan to wallow in it. our first topic tonight, george clooney has been a strong advocate for syrian migrants because he cares about them. he's praised angela merkel's migrant policy, and after he implemented -- he is a poorly moving his family back to america. why? according to life and style magazine which is definitive, it's because he fears islamic terror. he is a contributor -- they both join us now. catherine, how can you be for admitting a bunch of migrants are refugees and then as soon as they show up say you are out? >> what can't you do with a lot of money.

i can't wait for the day i have so much money that i get to choose and pick between multimillion dollar houses on different continents. >> tucker: lake tahoe, whatever. >> europe, asia, the world, who knows. >> tucker: i guess being really rich means never having to be consistent. i'm not against george clooney, i kind of like him. >> is kind of good looking. >> tucker: and he's a nice guy. but shouldn't you, or be expected to live with the results you advocate? >> this almost is as hypocritical as leonardo dicaprio marching against whatever climate flavor of the day he thinks is a huge problem. he actually will pry mcfly his private jet to and from each event. hope to see when you are out there, the tablet hypocritical for you to pack up and move and do something that you say you are against. >> tucker: if you are missing the key point. he bought carbon offsets, which are totally different from the

indulgences. >> and george clooney's case, if he's done this before, he has done this before. there've been reports according to this magazine of him moving another home because there was a refugee camp nearby. that wasn't okay. >> tucker: all right, next topic. comedian george lopez says the police ought to leave the country. in amsterdam post on friday, his you want to make the streets safer? deport the police. this is not an indictment of all law enforcement, some still just beat you. whatever that means. today, lopez tried to spin the post as comedy saying he actually wants to deport the police, the band, with sting in it. they've been defunct since 2008. probably wasn't talking about sting, was he? >> i have a feeling he wasn't. this is a classic example of

hollywood intervening in a really bad joke got even worse. i understand, i tell bad jokes all the time, but i think if there's one group you don't want to send, as law enforcement. >> tucker: been a lot of awful lot of police shootings as he. >> that's the part that bothers me. we've seen an uptick in violence. people serving in our law enforcement, a complete lack of respect for them. i understand that there are some issues that we are facing as a country, and that it's been very divisive, but i don't think that things like this help that situation. if he thinks rhetoric is divisive on the other end, why is he perpetuating the other side of that? >> tucker: we have enough material walk of shame every week, and i think we can can start doing it. let's do it tomorrow. thank you both. we will be right back. tgages, he's less confident. fortunately, there's rocket mortgage by quicken loans. apply simply. understand fully. mortgage confidently.

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>> yes, we did a very long interview about with kellyanne conway. because we care. >> tucker: good night from washington. "the five" starts now. >> kimberly: hello, everyone. i am kimberly guilfoyle. it is 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five." tonight, the left is going wild over a new report about a meeting between the president's eldest son, donald trump, jr., and a russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign. >> this is everything people have been looking for. this is not only a devastating narrative, it is potentially incriminating. >> we will find not only there was collusion but money laundering. a lot more is going to be unveiled. a