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>> bill: well, the rice was nice. it is all going to be exclusively on after the show. hey, thanks guys, good morning, everybody. president donald trump is in paris, leaving a political storm here at home. we will hear from the french president, emmanuel macron, with a show of an alliance, just one year since the best deal date terror attack in france, it will be an interesting morning, good morning everybody, . >> excellent this morning, visited u.s. embassies staff, will be a welcome ceremony less than 30 minutes from now,
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john roberts is struggling with the president in paris, john. >> shannon, we are rolling through the streets of downtown paris right now that is where president trump will have a bilateral meeting with president macron of france, you can see that the road is blocked off where we were trying to get through. he is on his way to the hotel, this is a military museum become of the present will participate in a welcoming ceremony and a tour there before he heads over to the palace to join the french president, macron, for a bilateral meeting. there are certainly things separating us from france, the president is really concerned about the protection, but there is a lapse that unites them as well, particularly on security, the fight against terrorism, and what to do about syria. now after they have the bilateral meeting, the president
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is expected to hold a press conference, at which they will take a couple of questions. i imagine that he will get something on his son, don don, jr.,'s meeting with the russian a junior attorney, he t fault him for doing that, that it really was in the upstart of a campaign, he has heard from a lot of political consultants who say that they would have had that meeting as well. in an interview, the president said that he thought that vladimir putin probably would have rather had hillary clinton when the election. listen to what the presents that here. >> if hillary had won, our military would be decimated, our energy would be much more expensive, that's what putin doesn't like about me, and i said why would you want me, because from day one, i wanted a strong military, he doesn't want that, and i want energy prices
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low, we are going to be exporting energy. she doesn't want that, he would like hillary and her emails. >> now again, he said that he would not say definitively whether he accepted a vladimir putin assurances in their meeting that neither he nor russia had anything to do with the interference in the u.s. election, continued to weigh in, today will be all about diplomacy, president trump will be the guest of honor at the annual bastille day parade, were troops make their way from the stomach this place, because it is the 100th anniversary, there will be some american troops there as well, and an opportunity for president trump to be shoulder to shoulder with the french president in solitary in the fight against isis, a
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year ago, we were telling the news that terrace had used a truck and run down 500 people and killed 86, so a real chance for the u.s. and france to say we are not going to take this anymore. shannon. >> shannon: thank you, john. >> bill: meanwhile, back at home, it is a moment of truth for senate republicans who will be meeting behind closed doors this morning. we are expecting them to unveil a new version of their health care bill. but before we see them, we are sparking a wide range of opinions. let's take a look. >> anyone of my colleagues who said that they are going to repeal x, i would ask them to check their consciences, what are you promising the american people, we looked at the bill a few weeks ago, and i said i couldn't support the bill as it was, they have now taken the bill and made it worse. >> we wanted to give them an
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opportunity to at least give input to the idea, i may be wrong, but i think any democrat who believes that these states are probably better able to handle health care than washington. >> bill: there you go, president trump and vice president mike pence putting their faith in the majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> i think it would be very bad, i would be very angry about it, and a lot of people would be very upset, but i am sitting here waiting for to come to my desk it, mitch has to pull it off, he is working very hard. >> senator mitch mcconnell and senator rand paul will do the right thing to gather, and we will pass legislation to repeal and replace obamacare. >> bill: so that was just the last 12 hours, ezekiel emanuel, the obamacare architect and fox news contributor. >> good to be here. >> bill: good morning. >> i know how grueling it was in
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2009, and before we see the ideas from mitch mcconnell today, do you believe right now republicans get to 51 votes? >> it does not look like they can get to, they need 50 votes, and then the vice president pence will break it, that means that if they lose three senators, they are out, we have heard from senator collins from maine that tweaks to the bill are not going to be enough, senator cavuto from west virginia, they all stand to lose a lot, just in west virginia alone, 180,000 people alone on the medicare expansion, if you throw that off, that is a problem, plus they have an enormous problem with opioid addiction in west virginia, which this bill only exacerbates by cutting back on medicaid. >> bill: you know a lot of this is public negotiation, and the democrats do the same thing in 2009, but just come back to
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the point today. a lot of republicans want to slow the growth of medicaid, not cut, just slow the rate of growth over five or ten years, what is wrong with that? >> well, first of all, let's be clear, that they are not just slowing the growth of entitlement, what they're going to do to the medicaid program is actually tried to throttle it an end medicaid as an entitlement, especially to people who are working hard with low-paying jobs, otherwise relatively healthy. wait a second. let me finish. that is -- that is the people -- >> bill: they are slowing the rate of growth, let's be clear on that. >> listen, it is not important what they will do, it is important what the effects and consequences will be. the consequences, the consequences according to the budget office will be that they are going to throw 22 million
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people off, now remember, if they in fact modified a little bit, the estimates are that they will still throw 17 or 18 million people off, and most of those people are hard-working americans. >> bill: and no, it is not throwing people off. >> it is. >> bill: i will make my point and allow you to go again. we don't know who the 17 million or 22 million are, these are the young people who don't want to buy the insurance in the first place. >> we can't -- we can to leave that with your false assertion, it's not that young people don't want to buy health insurance, is that the affordability is a problem, and this bill does not solve the affordability problem, as a matter fact, it makes it much worse for two groups, one is hard-working people who are on low-paying jobs and their employer doesn't offer insurance, it removes them from medicaid, and the second is older people over the age of 50 who will have increased premiums
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and lower subsidies to get insurance, those are the people who really suffer today. that is not rhetoric it, -- >> bill: it do you believe democrats in the end, any of them will work with republicans? >> well yesterday, a coalition in the house came up with proposal, a bipartisan proposal, and i have said this for a long time, if you take health policy experts and to those of us who are liberal, you put us in a room, we agree on 60 or 70% of reforms i need to be made to the system, to stabilize the exchanges and it to make sure that we get as close as possible, we could have a lot of agreement, the problem is mitch mcconnell has never reached out to a democrat, he has never once -- he held this whole thing behind closed doors, the reason
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that we don't have a bipartisan approach, mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, they never tried it -- >> bill: last question. >> they have never shown themselves as bipartisan. >> bill: do you think that they should have had a bill ready to go after the election in november or the fact that it is entirely too complicated of an issue in order to get there? >> no, they should have had a bill, they have been talking about this for seven years, this is not a replacement, this does not actually address the two key problems, how do you get the universal coverage, and how do you keep cost down? this bill does not do one thing to keep costs under control. >> bill: we heard there are pillars of belief in this bill that will come out later today, and we will see if that is the case, but you are welcome back anytime. >> no problem.
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>> shannon: you have both had your caffeine this morning, i can tell. so how is the new bill shaping out? next hour, we are going to talk to a member of the republican leadership right here on america's news network. >> bill: we will see whether or not that changes throughout the course of today. >> shannon: there are conversations happening across the aisle. >> bill: it is pomp and circumstance in paris, only a moment away from a welcoming present donald trump, we will take you there life as it gets underway, a historic visit today in france. >> shannon: the firestorm over donald trump junior meeting the russian lawyer continues. the president is now saying in a brand-new interview. >> bill: critics he is saying t president putin would have rather had clinton in the white house on him. we will debate that in a moment. >> trump is going to want this, and that is the way it is, and sometimes you have to know all of the things
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>> shannon: the white house looking to take advantage of the senate, comes after the successful con information of neil gore's edge, hundred 40 empty seats, got rid of the filibuster rule back in 2013, republican senators need only a simple majority to confirm nominees, although they have been using other technical
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procedural moves to slow down some of the president's nominee nominees. >> if hillary had won i, our military would be decimated, our energy would be much more expensive. that's what putin doesn't like about me, and that's why i would say why would he want me? there are many things i do that are the opposite of what he would want, so when i keep hearing about that here would have rather had drum, i think probably not. >> bill: president trembling out what he thinks that president putin did not want hi him, meeting from about a week ago, saying that he did not beat around the bush on that the issue of election meddling, asking him if he didn't do it. fox news contributor, former communications director with marco rubio, gentlemen, good day
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to both of you. we woke you up early today. good morning to both of you. so the president is arguing now that he is stronger on energy, which hurts russia, stronger only military, which puts putin on the defensive. >> he is 100% right, let's also remember the air strikes against assad and syria, which really sunk, so if he made a batch that trump was going to be better for him, so far that has not played out. junkets on the sanctions into lot to show how tough he is on putin, and the democrats don't have a good record on putin. >> bill: alex? >> he absolutely should sign the sanctions, he needs to send a clear message of the u.s. is going to stand up to russia wherever we are around the world, including eastern europe and our allies in ukraine. >> bill: is he right about energy and is the military? >> you know, i think it is two issues, energy he may well be right, but certainly on the military, bill clinton and hillary were and are very -- one
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is the problems is that she had on her own campaign around democrats, so i don't think it is so clear cut as he presents us, but i do agree with alex that i want to be bipartisan here, we do need the sanctions bill signed, and in the wake of the tillerson meeting after the putin and trump a meeting, we do need defensive weapons as a tangible sign of an american commitment. >> bill: okay, this is apparently what was said between the present, his version of vladimir putin on screen, i said it did you do it, he said no i did not, absolutely not, and then i asked him a second time in a totally different way, he said absolutely not. look, something happen, and we have to know what it is because we can't allow a thing like that to happen to our election process, so something happened, and is the story does not end there, clearly, gentlemen, here is that senator lindsey graham
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during the fbi confirmation hearing yesterday with christopher rae asking about that issue. >> i have no idea if they are true, but would you agree with me that if they are true, that it is wrong for the ukraine to be involved in our elections? >> yes, i take any -- >> i got you, that's a good answer, will you look into this? >> i would be happy to dig into it. >> bill: so we will continue with the story, and no one noticed, alex, where does it go? >> let's just be clear on one thing, clandestine foreign meddling in u.s. elections is totally inappropriate, i have worked in every presidential election for the last several years, i can tell you that an operative reach out to me and i became aware that a foreign agent was meddling in my campaign, i would call the fbi, so if we were contacted by the ukrainians, saying that we
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wanted to be helpful, they should have called the fbi, just like don, jr., should have called the fbi after he received the email from the foreign agent that we made public the other day. it is really simple, and you are absolutely right, bill, it is the fault of the democrats in the republicans, they all need to be held accountable. >> bill: what do you think? >> yeah, i think we have a simple way to begin to have an answer to that question, paul, who has worked in ukraine for the last eight or nine years, who was donald trump's campaign chairman for a number of months last year, we should start with paul, what did he know, what involvement was there? i think that is a very usable thing. >> bill: that was the question. >> i understand, paul was the main operative in the united states, he would presumably have knowledge, and i think that he neither should
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be -- absolutely explored. >> bill: thank you both. 20 after the hour now, shannon. >> shannon: we are just moments away from a welcome ceremony for president trump, we will take you there live, as soon as that event gets underway. >> bill: also, it could be an emotional dance for the parents of charlie, today is the last day to allow their son to travel for health care. details on the next. >> we love him more than life itself, if he is still fighting, then we are still fighting. can we at least analyze customer traffic? can we push the offer online? legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. you're saying the new app will go live monday? yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes.
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melania arrive there today in central paris, they will be met there today by the new french president, macron, and his wife, this should be impressed quite a scene, shannon. besides end the sounds are just more colorful, at a minimum. >> shannon: you can see there that they have horses lined up, we are told that any of them are lined up there, they will be a military vehicle, and it looks like he will be there too, and extended a hand shake to the and first lady when they arrive, it is full of museums and monuments, we know that president trump is very enamored of the military, he will get some today as he visits paris. >> bill: the white house has billed this trip as a gesture of allegiance, and this, the day that marks the 100th anniversary of the u.s. involvement in world war i, still a prominent,
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prominent history in the country of france today. but it also marks almost one year to the day where the attack and southern france occurred on bastille day, and there will be an enormous french fried tomorrow, complete with military colors, et cetera, the moment where the white house talked about reaffirming the u.s.'s ties with france, celebrating with the french people, commemorating the 100th anniversary of the u.s. entry into world war i, the president has been critical of nato, but with regard to france, in terms of military spending, they are right around the mark that they agree to three years of ago, and that certainly has been complemented by this white house. >> shannon: he has taken note of that, as he does urge others and nato to essentially get in the game, we understand that the very first greeting as the president and first lady of the united states role in, any
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moment now, it will include a handshake, and you remember the handshake heard around the world of president macron's, we will be watching this one very carefully, he said that he was sending a message that he wanted to be respected, and he has been openly critical of the president, in regard to climate change on other things, his quote about making the planet great again, he has been tough on putin publicly as well, so he is new to the game, he is young, but he has got a lot of support there in the presidency, and it will be interesting to see if they are back together again. >> bill: anticipates that it was strained or lasted too long, macron called it a moment of truth, and others suggested that they were gripping too hard as two men face off, but that's is for a lot of people looking at
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it from the outside, making their own opinions, we will look at it in a moment. >> shannon: and this president we know has been critical of france, he was during the campaign quite a bit, he called it so-so and out-of-control and dangerous, talking about the problem that they have had with terrorism, devastating, heartbreaking attacks there over the last couple of years, in september of last year in the campaign, he said that france was an "disaster,," and remember when he made the big announcement about the u.s. withdrawing from the paris climate deal, he said that he is trying to draw a line between him and the elites in europe, by his estimation, that clearly includes macron. >> bill: part of these discussions will be about syria, but when you consider what they have been through over the last two years alone, we will really kick things off in a different way for these men and women from the country of france, going to
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syria, to be trained, only to use this route of western europe to come back into countries like france and carry out what we have seen that have been devastating attacks, and while that was happening a year ago, president trump was running for president, and he was very critical of the french security services, and the way that french culture had been changing because of those terrorist attacks. >> shannon: and interesting, there was a poll recently about how the french people view this president versus the last present, just 14% say that they believe that trump will be able to do the right thing with working with france, that stands in contrast, 75% said that they felt like he was able to do the right thing with regards to world affairs, so we know that there has been a lot of steps skepticism about our new president, and they said that the last presence that they thought was much too easy when it came to things like nato, and
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the iran nuke deal, constantly being on an apology to her, so it is definitely a new administration, a new die, day, and how he will work together with them, with the climate deal, and many of the other financial issues that have been discussed, the world is still waiting to see, and right now, president macron is still working as well. >> bill: i think it is a very interesting relationship that we are going to see over the next few days here, and we have seen some pretty successful trips overseas by this white house, only to come home and to get hit with another headline in regards to russia and what did or did not happen from the election a year ago. but as it pertains to national security and to the country of france today, three years ago in 2014, we reached a deal, they agreed to spend 2% on the defense, right now, the french
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are at 1.8%, which is better than the greater majority of countries, here is the administration's viewpoint on that. france has one of the largest and strong as militaries of our land, they have spent an awful lot on defense and carry carryy load, after being in the south of france a year ago tomorrow, this is a country that has been put in a different place, they really do not know what's the future holds for their own personal security, they have changed many tactics and many strategies to adapt and be better equipped, you could argue there is a no-tolerance policy today in regards to isis and whether they are communicating online, the french seem to be catching up to that point, but for the moment, the level has
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not gone up high enough to say that we are there today. >> shannon: well said, and the last two years, it has been absolutely devastating, when a truck was used, and we know it is a weapon that is accessible around the globe. interestingly, yahoo! news had an interview with steve bana, who doesn't do a whole lot of those interviews. he led the way for president trump to make it to the white house, and now he says that essentially he sees that there are ways in which president trump or presidents macron are a like it, he says that he has made a number of national gestures, referring to macron, while positioning france as a preemptions nation, populous nationalist is the right side of history, so he thinks that trump and macron are closer to each other, macron to being a centrist, closer to his
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philosophy than he would be, he doesn't want the state to run the economy, so it is interesting that at least in the white house, these two have things that they see the world through certain frames in a similar way, and it will be interesting to see how they work together, a little bit surprised by this invitation, you remember u.k. prime minister had a little heat for her extension to trump to come visit, macron reached right out and did the same thing and for such an important day in french history, but still day, for them to have a u.s. president to there, a lot. >> bill: fox news contributor with me now, good morning to yo you. how many trips you make overseas? and now we are seeing it quite often, what do you think that is suggesting about where this white house is going? >> well it speaks to a certain energy, being in europe last week, and one lesson you might deceive drawing that maybe you would hope he is drawing is that
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he has kind of tripped with their history, their pomp and pageantry, they should not be sitting at home and obsessing over the coverage on the latest scandal. i think steve bannon's point is a good one, that macron and a trump of martin, and then you might think, they are both disruptors, macron, like trump, came out of nowhere, won the presidency of france, not to being a member of either party, so that is a similarity, and it also should be a trip that is bigger than either of these men, it is about the relationship of our two countries, which goes back centuries, my favorite symbol, bill, of the friendship between france and the united states is you go to mount vernon, which everyone should do, and visits the home of george washington, right there in the hallway, is the key from bastille, which was presented to him.
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>> bill: great note on history there, rich. and i think what you just talked about with the comparisons to being new political leaders cannot be overlooked. he had never run for office before, and he did this and won it, same for donald trump. >> correct, nella, they are on different sides of the spectrum, one is a nationalist, trump, very forthrightly, and macron is more cut outs, that's goes for that handshake that was heard around the world, the competition of wills and that handshake, so that is something that divides them, but you look at france and the broad sweep of things, this is a country that is extremely proud of its history, it is extremely proud and protective of its subsistent culture, this is a country that goes back at least to charlemagne and the breakup of
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the empire, the west frank's end up being france, the others end up in germany, so this is a country where the national identity is extremely important, and of the history is very contemporary. >> bill: just a moment ago, we are talking about the remarks that president trump made before going overseas about strengthening the military and why he is a better option than hillary clinton, expressing that point, and suggesting that that drives vladimir putin crazy, it was just a few days ago, the french navy once on board a summary him to show his support in france as well, so that again draws and similarities on a lot of policy. let's drop on in here, as we see the arrival in the greeting.
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french historical books, that includes the tomb of napoleon bonaparte among other things, there is a retirement home for war veterans, and again, we talked about how much our president loves this idea of a strong military, always has enjoyed the pomp and circumstance, was looking forward to this welcome today. >> bill: yeah, we are just going to hang with this picture for a moment, and next hour, that should be quite a picture too, about with rich lowry here. when you look at the bottom body language, rich, they lingered on that. i know a lot of people have talked about that in the last week, and it is no small matter because those jesters can mean a lot about the relationship. ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bill: a beautiful rendition there, a year ago, in fact, this month in 2016, trump said that france is no longer france, he said that france is a disaster in september, all coming on the heels of a country that was shaken to its core, the terrorists who had left the country came back and carried out deadly attacks on dozens and dozens of french people, and they were rattled, and now when
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you become president, you modulate your language, and that is what we have seen as well. >> yeah, it is one thing to say those things if you are a writer or a candidate, and i think that his critique of the immigration policy is correct, they basically imported what is now an indigenous terrorist problem, which is an enormous wonder, but on a day like this, when you're president of the united states, it is about something much larger, american servicemen died in france to liberate france, to save western civilization, and that is what we are marking today. >> bill: how did you rate this trip to the g20 last week? >> i thought it had a very strong start, i think what will be most remembered as the warsaw speech, where we celebrated western civilization, i think we see the strip and a little bit of the framework of that, celebrating western civilization as the very first part of it,
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but i got rockier with the putin meeting, why think that putin had a very specific plan and knew what he wanted to get out of that, whereas trump was just sort of going in and seeing what happens. >> bill: let's see where that argument goes here, but the point i'm driving at is that these trips overseas can be very successful for commander in chief, and if you rate is above average, that is pretty good, the first six or seven months in the administration, the problem is you come home and you have these leakers and of these russia stories that are still all over the news, and we may talk about it on cable news, but you wonder how many americans are paying attention to the story. >> well, one, going back to the trips, these trips can be successes just by showing up, the pictures are wonderful, right? we're just talking about the body language, into the handshake, part of the domestic criticism of donald trump is that he is a know nothing nationalist, well, now you see him on your tv screen having a
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warm handshake and doing this wonderful ceremony with the president of france, so just the visuals alone kind of push back against that, but i think the president that this president in particular has, life is good when he shows up in six to the script, does what a president is supposed to do, he gets in trouble when he is hitting back on it twitter and in other ways, more informal, and it is not vetted by his staff. >> shannon: we know that they are going to go behind closed doors and have a meeting, we expect that this will all be on the agenda, they will then come out and speak, what do you expect to be front and center in the meeting today? >> the two countries have a common interest in syria in defeating iraq and hopefully stabilizing syria, such that there is not a national wave of refugees continually trying to get into europe, and that there
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isn't a inspiration to radicals around the world. >> bill: at just this week it, we have a cease-fire that just so far has held. >> yeah. >> bill: that is quite remarkable. >> we will see, we have seen cease-fires before, obviously there is a lot more to do there, but i think president trump has much more in common with macron on this than he does with putin. >> bill: it thank you so much, as the ceremony continues. >> shannon: joining us now, florida congressman, to speak about the foreign affairs committee, good to have you with us, congressman. >> good morning. >> shannon: your reaction to the meeting of these two very important nations who go centuries back, what is important to you? >> well, i think the meeting is important, it seems that this relationship between the two has improved from what the media of course outside, they come out
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from different perspectives, trump is more of a nationalist, macron is somebody who is more in tune with the elites in europe, but that doesn't mean that they can't identify common interest, i think particularly in regards to international terrorism, france has been hit hard over the years, this is a major issue, and hopefully, we can work together to really pushback on the influence of islamic terrorism throughout the west, and i know that they will see eye to eye on that's, i tell you that this will be something that macron has to deal with domestically, but know when it has change the conversation more than donald trump, and you see that there aren't other countries, not just here in the united states. >> shannon: and we saw that play out during the french election, it was a key issue, front and center, with macron, and yet we had a different result than many people would have expected their based on what happened here, just months before in our own election. >> it is a little bit different at least in terms that he had a long history there, and
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actually, people in the united states say that he was in "conservative," on economics and some other things, so i think that it wasn't good, it was probably a better one with trump, but nevertheless, i think you have seen, there are certainly pockets in these societies that are very concerned about the immigration policy in europe. >> shannon: okay, so as we continue to watch president trump there in paris, with french president emmanuel macron, there is a lot for the president back here a out on tha lot of allegations regarding his son, the meeting that he had with the russian attorney, what was and was was not discussed, what do you make of it? they said yesterday, this is the kind of thing that you should immediately call the fbi about, what do you think? >> well, it is hard for me to look back, it is easy to look back in hindsight, this lady who he met, she has been in the congress, shannon, i have seen her at hearings, she has met
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with members of congress, so i'm trying to figure out if this is some money who is a proxy for the kremlin, why would she just be allowed to roam free in the united states capitol and have these kinds of meetings, so i actually have some more questions about it, one thing that i took away from it is by early june of 2016, there had currently not been any type of collusion because otherwise that meeting would not have made any sense, and i don't think that anything came of it, probably in hands and not the right thing to do, but i think that the idea that it is a smoking gun, i just don't see that either. >> shannon: we see presidents trump and that macron to join their spouses after a welcome ceremony that was relatively elaborate there in paris, they continue on to other events today, we will keep everybody updated as these things happen life, what do you think congressman, should happen next,
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trump, jr., is ready to testify and turn over documents, will there be a resolution to this, or do you think that he is in real trouble? >> i think that he should just go in until the truth, and i think that if he does not, i think it will work itself out, he says that he wants to do that, and i would advise him to do that because then you can kind of put some of the stuff to bed and start to get onto some of the other issues, and by the way, there are other issues involving this whole thing on the government decides that it is really troubling if you look at the massive amounts of illegal leaking that has been going on, even at director comey is being reported that he may have had classified information in his memos that were linked, so there are a whole bunch of other issues that the congress and the justice department need to deal with, so the sooner that they kind of just say hey, here is the deal, and answer questions, i think the sooner that we can get onto some of those, which a lot of american people care about. >> shannon: and to this that you mention singer on the hill, people did to see her regularly, but we know at one point she was denied entry to this country,
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this is back under the obama administration, and she was given a waiver by then attorney general loretta lynch, this is reporting according to the hill and other places, they gave her what was considered an extraordinary measure, so that she could be here, primarily for the purpose of helping to defend a russian client against some issues here in the u.s., but apparently, she was here in the country well after the time that that expired, what questions do you have now about her? >> will, in terms of being pastor expiration date, unfortunately, that is just our immigration system works, that was not the enforcement in the previous administration, so that was par for the course, but how did she get in? i think it is a big question because the media has reported that the meeting with trump, jr., all, this lady is a proxy for the kremlin, and if that were the case, and our government knew that, then why on earth do you issue that to let her come in? you just wouldn't do that, so it may be the case that her
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importance has been inflated by the media and an attempt to make the meeting look more senator than i was. >> shannon: here's a little bit about what he says about this, i think that many people would have held that meeting, most of the phony politicians who are democrats that i have watched over the last couple days, most of those phonies that act holier-than-thou, they also would have taken that meeting in a heartbeat, there has been a lot of conversation about that, whether you have that meaning, but when it comes at the behest of an email that suggests this is about the russian government or interest within the russian government wanting to support the candidates, or do you draw the line? >> well, what i know into what i would be willing to bet on is that the clintons would have taken that meeting if they were proposed a derogatory information about one of their opponents, they take that meeting any day of the week and twice on sunday, should you do it? maybe not, but the
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holier-than-thou attitude is a somewhat grating because these guys were looking for information on trump, and there were people that were involved with trying to figure out what they could get in terms of dirt and it is somewhat of a nasty business, so should he do? no, but is it done and particularly on the other side? i think absolutely it would be done. >> shannon: all right, congressman desantis, we know that there will be a lots before the story is over. >> bill: we are going to hear more soon, that should come around 10:25, in new york, will continue on that point with the rich lowry, you had to know, rich, that's a once this is donald trump, jr.,'s story started breaking, that to there would be a different or any other shoe to fall, perhaps that is on the trump team, or perhaps it is on the behalf of the dnc or hillary clinton, but the
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points that he is making about this russian lawyer that he had seen frequently runs the capital, there is another side to this story. >> yeah, i don't think that don, jr., should have taken this meeting, i think that was completely wrong, you look at the email exchange, he is being offered damaging information from a hostile foreign government, and you should just say no, i want nothing to do with it, that said, it is really hard to believe that vladimir putin one, was going to jeopardize an extremely important intelligence operation by trying to coordinate with a foreign political campaign, and it too, if you're going to do that, that he was going to use this woman, who is a music promoter, to do it, so i think that this doesn't prove collusion, i tended to believe that it was a meeting that came to nothing, that she did not have damaging information, that she floated that idea just to get the meeting, and then to
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make her case on the sanctions, but you have to wonder, because one thing that is a big mistake in the last four or five days, that of the white house was forthcoming in their statements, they basically had to revise it three or four times, and that is just never a good situation. >> bill: napoleon bonaparte's tomb, by the way, is what the picture is that you are seeing on the inside of in paris. which, come back to this point, about the dnc having some sort of cooperation with the ukrainian government, this was first reported in january by politico, correct? and barely anybody picked up on it then. >> correct, it is a fine line, the media has a reflex to just go after trump, and whenever there is anything to hurt trump that creates more energy around it for the press, but also, the ukrainians were attacking anyone's email accounts and
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trying to influence the outcome of the election, so that just creates a different sensitivity and, anything having to do with the russians in this campaign. >> bill: here's what you wonder, and maybe he goes deeper with the trump team, may be a dozen, but you have these two competing stories, to a lot of folks, they are just going to say well, everybody does it. >> writes, that is the best defense for most of the american public, they trust no one in politics, they assume the worst of all politicians, this was bill clinton's defense, and he was caught red-handed, and there is no doubt about it, everyone does it, and that argument helped him get off the hook it, and the arguments that they are making, the hillary clinton staff, what they have taken such a meeting? yeah, probably, i think that has a lot of residents with people. >> catherine is going to be up in a couple minutes, so we'll hear about what reporting she has and how that story moves forward.
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let's now go back to the commander in chief in paris, france, and what this could do for him when he comes back home this weekend. tomorrow, you're going to get a massive parade, it is the still day, in the country of france, and we will have lots of coverage. >> yeah, i think when he comes back, it will have almost no effect because the rhythm of these russia stories has been very interesting. they hit every time you think he is going to gain some footing, so as soon as he comes back it come from the g20 g20, the tims a story, i am not alleging some grand conspiracy, but it is interesting, and i would expect that we will be back on russia after these two days, no matter what happens there in france, and this will be immediately wiped out and the new cycle. >> bill: has been running shot gun us, don't go far, we just want to update our viewers, just joining us, what we are watching right now, trumpet arrived in
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france, a trip that was a range, you could argue in quick fashion, shannon, that was a handshake that we saw about 30 minutes go. >> shannon: yes, and that is a very common greeting there, and we see the families greet each other there, much to discuss, we talked about syriac, which has been a very real daily worry that the people of paris and broadly in france, something they have had to confront head-on, numerous times in the last couple of years, with massacres, including that one that will be held on but still day, much for the leaders to discuss, and about whether or not they have more in common or less in common than people might think, but it does say to a lot of people, this that he does
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want to find ways that they can work together, they have been a relatively critical of what has gone on in paris and in france, especially during the presidential campaign, and bill, as you noted, that language has been more muted, as he became president, but he has been critical of them, and they have began to try to get them to the 2% of gdp commitments that he would like to see of all nato members, not quite there yet, but he is praising the fact that they are at least close which is better than many of the nations who participate in that alliance, and we know that the french and u.s. alliance and friendship and relationship goes back decades, we have been at each other's asides, when it was most important, and we have been there for important military allies, economic allies, and now the conversation continues, as they will eventually take this behind closed doors for some serious talks. with regard to the security
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issues, we were told that the head of homeland security would be traveling, secretary kelly, it can't confirm that offhand, but it is significant to any think about the security issues that france has not, do you think about the security issues that we have had here at home, ideas that we can share with one another, as we approach the 10:00 a.m. eastern time here in new york, we will say hello to everyone again as our coverage continues, rich lowry is here with us today. chris, welcome, we will see these two men yet again in about 20 or 25 minutes, what is your expectation for a trip like this, chris? >> will, this is obviously a lot about macron, a new president, a new leader, and trump, they are trying to figure each other out, but as you can see by the display that macron is putting on, you know, napoleon, a dictator, but he had military might, grandeur, power, french
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fried, one of the things that is hard to figure out about macron is that he doesn't have a political footprint, he liked it trump in the sense that he was in the private sector, he was a late driver to politics, learning the ropes and his predecessors in restoration, and now finds himself is really the unexpected leader of a country, looking for a national identity new direction, napoleon was an authoritarian dictator, but what he does represent in the hearts and minds of french people is when france was powerful, when france was not a weak power in western europe. >> shannon: we talked about how president trump loves the military, he loves the pomp and circumstance that comes with it, in his interview, will get more with the christian broadcasting network, he talks about how that proved that russia would have prefer to hillary clinton, we are the most powerful nation in
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the world, and we are getting more powerful because i am a big military person, and if hillary had one, the military would have been decimated, from day one, i wanted a strong military, putin doesn't want to see that, he would have preferred her. >> bill: so this is in interesting thing about the president's income on the one hand, he does try to admits most of the time that yes, russia tried to interfere in the election, but when it comes to that question of where they trying to help hillary clinton or were they trying to help with donald trump, what was their purpose? he is always careful not to give away the cause of his victory, he wants it because of his victory to be the silent majority, the forgotten man, the uprising of these neglected voters in the upper midwest, a narrative that works for him is that, and he's dead out one part of that story to be come that russia helped him with his
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election, because on the one hand, he acknowledges the malfeasance, but then what he does, he says that putin is really making a mistake, if that is what he wanted, then he made a mistake, because i'm going to be a much harder president to deal with, so this is something that is an interesting answer. >> shannon: he brings up that we are going to be exporting energy, he doesn't want that, he would like hillary, she wants to have windmills. [laughs] >> and energy production continues to go up, and what we are finally going to see is something that has been continuing to change, what we want to see is in europe, macron is probably someone who putin
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did not want to end, the kremlin has aligned itself and helped out with the nationalist groups like, that is not something -- macron's rise is not something that is particularly good for the kremlin because it is about to nato, and this trip, this visit, i think, yes, it is about gdp commitments you nato, and yes, i am sure that my friend wants to talk to trump about whether or not he will get back into the paris climate agreement, but this is about healing the hearts of the west to gather, a closed breastplate against the threat of vladimir putin and his expansion to russia and what i believe more than anything else in all of this, the kindness to trump, macron's real generosity in this visit is about feeling about the bond, this importance military alliance in modern history, between the united states and
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western europe to stand against russian aggression. >> shannon: stick around with us, thank you, sir, very much. >> bill: meanwhile, back at home, there is a new report that the department of justice, under president obama, allowed a russian lawyer, this woman here, into the u.s. without a visa, this was before her controversial meeting with the donald trump, jr., we are running it down right now, catherine, good morning to you in washington, what are you learning about the snow? >> good morning, these court records obtained by fox news confirm that the russian lawyer was allowed into the u.s. under the london justice department, the united states did issue this in order to help defend this lawsuit, nevertheless, despite being hurled into the united states, in november 2015,
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i was detained for two hours by airport officials, who specifically targeted me, the timing does indicate as first reported by the newspaper that it was granted by then attorney general, loretta lynch, and he really is a discretionary authority that allowed a her into this country on a case-by-case basis for either urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefits reasons, the russian lawyer would seem to fall into the latter category. >> bill: so more to see on this, in the meantime, we are seeing the images from napoleon's tomb in paris, france, . the first couple from the u.s., meeting with the first couple from friends. newly elected, age 39, macron,
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president of trump there with his wife, first lady, melania. the french love their history and for good reason, there is a lot of it, rich lowry is back with us now, can you imagine what this conversation could be like? >> yeah, i would love to be a bug on the wall there, i'm sure it is an incredibly grand scene, goes to important differences about friends in america, their revolution ultimately creates napoleon, who arguably is the first modern dictator, our revolution creates a george washington, and both napoleon and washington, military geniuses, but the reason is washington is deeply committed to the liberty of his people and into a democratic
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government. >> bill: rich, thank you. >> thank you, bill. >> bill: at the next stop is the palace, should happen in about ten or 15 minutes as we track all of the movements in paris, france, july 14th is bastille day. >> shannon: we will hear from both of those presents, and of course, we will bring that life when they speak after their meeting behind closed doors. now, a key meeting ahead of republicans considering their advise plan, chief congressional correspondent, good morning to you, any sign of tension building at this critical stage now of the health care approach? >> shannon, good morning, senate republicans have been talking about getting rid of obamacare for seven years, and wrestling with this particular bill for weeks, arizona senator john mccain talks to our colleague, peter, moments ago, sounded pretty pessimistic.
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>> it should have gone through the committees of oversight, so that the democrats -- and then we probably could have gone this thing done. now, our prospects are dim, but it is what it is. >> vice president mike pence has been outselling this senator republican health care plan, he was in the kentucky home state of majority leader mitch mcconnell, and rand paul has been critical of this particular bill, the senate republican whip fired back at him this morning. >> if senator paul can show me of a 49 other votes for his bill, then i would be all for it, but unfortunately, the practicality as we have to be able to pass a bill, and then if you vote no on this, that is a vote for obamacare because that is what will be left with. something to look for today will be the reaction of moderate republicans that was part of
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obamacare. >> shannon: yeah, one of the critical issues, how are democrats now playing at this age? >> well, they are essentially morning their members not to allow a mitch mcconnell to even take of the bill, it democrats are hoping to force republicans back to the negotiating table. >> here is a radical idea, why don't they take their idea, where the chairman can hold a hearing where we can take a look at what they have done, ask questions, make some changes, this notion of doing this behind closed doors is not great. >> only watching to see the reaction of those republican senators today, see if they pressure to act is going to get them anywhere close to 50 votes to pass a bill. shannon. >> shannon: became annual come alive on the hill, thank you so much. what is next, lots of questions for him. >> bill: we are seeing are less images for the moment of
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present donald trump in france and president macron's live and poorest stomach paris, they will now go into talks, shared history between our two nations, and about two hours and 20 minutes, we will see a press conference between these two men, we will certainly have live coverage of that when that happens. >> shannon: plus, nominate to head the fbi is promising, he will pull no punches, as promised, winning over republicans and a whole lot of democrats, we will talk to the senators who grilled him. >> no one asked me for any kind of loyalty deal at any point during this contest, and i sure did not offer one. >> what you told me yesterday, you would not sketch one, if asked? >> correct.
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>> shannon: onejor topics the two men are expected to talk about it syria, coming after president trump talked about the ongoing war with the russian president vladimir putin at the g20, he says that the u.s. and russia found some common ground there. listen. >> he wants what is good for russia, and i want what is good for the united states, and i think in a case like syria, we can get together, and in many other cases, where getting along can be a very positive thing, but always, putin is going to want russia, and trump is going to want to the united states, and that is the way that it is. >> shannon: president of the eurasia group, good to see you. and you were just at the white house, i understand, yesterday, what do you make of their foreign policy that is now evolving and this relationship with russia. >> look, the fact that it is dominating the airwaves is something that they want, it is a challenge, as opposed to the
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denials that you see in the media and the white house, they completely understand this attraction, that is a very unwelcome one, they are working exceptionally hard, people who want to get things done, they are frustrated with just how slow everything always is in washington, and you know, they are looking for outside advice, so i think that those things are all positive in terms of how the foreign policy is going, it depends on who you are talking to a lot, they actually have developed a pretty good relationship with the broader trump administration, i think that with india and japan, we are certainly looking at a lot of the traditional allies in the middle east, and i would say that those relationships are pretty stable, but now i look at france, where today one of our most important allies, in the u.s. global order, those relationships are a lot more challenge, and i think that this is going to be one of the more interesting meetings. >> shannon: we have a little
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bit more of this interview with the present, where he talks about the relationship with the russian with him, let's play a little bit of that and then get your reaction. >> i think we got along very well, and that is not a bad thing. you know, people set out, they shouldn't get along, well who are the people who are saying that? i think we get along very, very well. he is a tremendously powerful nuclear power, and so are we, it doesn't make sense to have some kind of a relationship. >> shannon: and we have to remember that this is a former kgb officer, many times in the past, he acts in ways that are not in our interest. >> i actually think that he, i would agree with what he had to say, you do want a functional working relationship between the president of the united states and the president of russia, any major economy, it is good to
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have those lines open. you don't want a better relationship between trump and pugin than you do with the most important and trusted allies of the united states, and frankly, that is actually now the case, and i think that is why so many are unnerved because they things that russia is going to be for russia, that is true, russia being for russia and the u.s. being for the u.s., a vendor gram of two circles, there is not a lot of overlap, with germany, there is a lot more overlap, so you would expect more alignment, i also think that on syria, obama's policy was that assad must go, and trump can just show reality on the ground and say hey, the russians are a military power, we are going to work more closely with them because frankly, that is just reality, i think that has been one of his more productive foreign policies, but the idea that we are going to work with the russians on let's say if
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sieber's stuff, we should be talking with them, but we will not work with them, we are working against each other. >> shannon: i think yeah, that is off the table now. as we work on this relationship with france today, example, which will be the thing is coming out of this meeting because when we watched putin and last week, they said it is a short meeting, don't ask for anything, then we ended up with a cease-fire, what do we expect today? >> we expected movement on syria, on this, trump actually doesn't have a strong agenda, what we know is that macron has been very visible against trump on climates, make the planet great again, as he did in his video on trade, he was hosting the g20, so as a consequence, wasn't being as combative, he was kind of leading the anti-trump, anti-u.s. thing, having said that, macron is not illogical, he dumped his own party to become president, trump
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is hardly a republican, he is about i'm president, so and lots of ways, this meeting is not hard, they both represent their own countries, they are both fundamentally more political animals and ideological animals, and together, they have the ability to actually have a good meeting and say we can establish a friendship, remember, macron it just had pugin in verse i, and that was after the russians hack to the french election, that didn't stop him, so he is all about looking strong in europe and france, he can do that, and he can do that by being a statesman, by working with us on terrorism, certainly where he can't has already said i am going to be america's friends, so i am announcing a another announcement to come out of this, extract the mike i expect strong military participation, but i do not think that he will move an inch
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on climate change, i think that you are going to see if that on climates and on trade, there is going to be some fireworks there. >> shannon: yeah, we will keep watching the handshakes too, always good to see you, thanks for coming in. bill. >> bill: is a mention, big welcome to president trump, there will be another one in paris, awaiting his arrival at the élysees palace, we will take you back there when it does, and a big arrival. the new republican health care plan expected to make its debut to dance, will they have the votes to get forward on it? senator john is here today to talk about this. >> and they subsidize this, so this nearly $200 billion insurance bailout funds is to subsidize this, i can't vote for something that doesn't repeal obamacare and doesn't fix it.
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that is a very rare terminal illness that charlie gard is suffering from, going into the hearing today, he said that if he heard a new and convincing evidence of this experimental treatment that they have for this condition both in the united states and in italy as well to see if there is any chance that that experimental drug it could help charlie, he will rule in favor of the family and allow against the hospital which is for the family to go to the united states, it is very emotional for the family, this is being called a last chance hearing for charlie's parents and their quest to travel to the united states or to italy to get this treatment, and it has been very emotionally charged, his parents looked anxious going into the courtroom today, and about halfway through the session this morning, his father stood up and said i thought that
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this was going to be an independent review of the evidence and he and his wife got up and i should say stormed out of the courtroom. >> dumb asked me one explain with the possibility of taking their child here to the u.s. could be. >> sure, there is a hospital in new york city which believes that's the experimental drug that they have been working with has a chance of helping charlie gard, one of the specialists from that hospital giving evidence right now, and he says that out of several children that they have used the experiments of drug with, at least one has been able to come off of his ventilator, so he said that they have about a 10% chance of improving the quality of life and prolonging the life of charlie gard, the hospital said that if the u.k. allows the boy to leave with his parents, if the boy and his parents can get visas into the united states and a couple congressmen are working on that right now, than they will provide treatment for
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him in new york city or some they drug to the u.k., as you know, bill, president trump also tweeted that if the u.k. allows the boy to leave, the u.s. would be happy to treat him in this country, meanwhile, the hospital has been very resolute, the hospital that is treating the boy, they say that this boy is, he cannot hear, he cannot see, he cannot move, he cannot swallow, and he cannot even breathe without the life support that they are providing him, and they say the right thing to do at this point is allow the boy to die with dignity. >> bill: watching that story from london, let's hope for the best. shannon. >> shannon: the presidents meeting today with french present macron's, lingers here today, including his french stomach his sons controversial meeting >> i do believe it is important to have a dialogue, and if you don't have a dialogue, that means problems for their country and four
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>> shannon: we have a fox news alert out of washington, the justice department announcing the largest ever health care takedown, jeff sessions and secretary price doling out the details just moments ago, 412 arrests nationwide, more than 100 of those are doctors, accused of making $1.3 billion in false medicare and medicaid claims, some doctors also facing charges for their roles and wrongfully prescribing unnecessary opioids and other dangerous narcotics. >> bill: 10:32, trump holding a news conference in about two hours, questions about it russia him back home, fox news contributor, ladies, good to see
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both of you today. >> he is going to have to address it, the democrats and the liberals in the media are so unhinged, that it is going to come up in this conference, what is exciting about a donald trump news conference as he really can't predict what is going to happen, it used to be unpatriotic to ask these kinds of questions, on foreign soil, and i think that this just shows where the democrats are at, it is all russia all the time, it is all about obstructing, and taking this president down. >> bill: with your hammer and sickle, here we go. >> there are a lot of things that used to be unpatriotic about have been accepted by the republican party, but goodness, for president trump, there could not be a better time for him to escape the united states, but the great thing about this press conference is that we actually get to ask the president
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questions. the fact that he is only doing press conferences with other world leaders is a really bad sign for our democracy. >> bill: just to be clear, this is knobs a few minutes with reporters, normally it is to questions, this is what the president said before he left, about his meeting with vladimir putin. >> come we had a good meeting i think we had in excellent meeting, i think a lot of things came out of that meeting, but i do believe it is important to have a good dialogue it, and if you don't it is a lot of problems for our country and for their country, we need to dialogue with everyone. >> bill: sounds fair. >> have a present who announced that he would have a big red line and do nothing, but now we have one who behind the scenes is doing a lot of things that russia doesn't like, like making america a leader in energy, building up our military, making our alliances stronger and eastern europe, so i think that
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i kind of like this approach better. >> bill: you have to support all of that. >> i would support a president who could just stand in front of the american people and say as president, i am going to make sure that i do everything in my power to make sure that what happened and 2016 will not happen in 2018, our democracy will not be undercut by a foreign government, and it just be okay with that fact that okay look at, you won it, but that doesn't mean that you can say something negative about the -- >> i don't disagree with that, i do wish that as a republican, he would say that, that said, let's look at actions, i think that counts even more, especially when it comes to the russians. >> bill: ladies, thanks to both of you, he is with us now, he has been on the hill, a republican from north carolina, senator, good morning to you. you will be on to talk, do you think that he is confirmed after
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his hearing yesterday question rick >> i think he did ask her and her job on the committee, democrats have come out and said that they support him, he will be moved out of committee i think next week, and i expect that he will be confirmed. >> bill: i want to play a sound bite, this is lindsey graham, a republican from south carolina, talking about this report from the dnc working with the ukrainian government, we don't know where it is right now, senator, don't know where it is going, but here is the exchange. >> i have no idea if they are true. >> yes, that is a good answer. >> will you look into this? >> i would be happy to dig into it. >> senator, what do we need to understand in the early days of the story, >> bill, what we need to understand is that there are lots of countries who want to interfere in our elections, and
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any time we see any evidence of that, he needs to be pursued to the full extent of that, the fbi being one of them. so i think that in the same way that i want to look into every instance where russia has interfered with our election, whether it beats ukraine or any other nation, we need to make sure that's that public trust is maintained by going after them, regardless of who the sources and regardless of what country is trying to do it. it >> bill: our job is to look at the facts, and we are trying to find the facts between the trump and russia connection and the dnc and the ukraine, what facts do you have for our audience today to shed light on? >> well, we don't have any facts on the ukraine, that is relatively new, and i'm grandpa senator graham brought it to our attention, but what we also have to do is look at the facts in a way that makes sense, whether it is a special counsel, whether it is the intelligence committee, the thing that we have to do up here is not be distracted, a part of what these nations want to do, part of what russia wants
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to do is distract us from all of the other things in washington, so let's get to this end, let's get to the agencies, and the doj, and let's make sure that we are still focusing on passing a health care bill, tax reform, and all of these other things that we promised to deliver on. >> bill: the committee from yesterday, this it seemed to be the money moment, let me ask this question. >> what is your view on the independence of the fbi generally, but more importantly, as you as director had upset organization customer >> i believe to my core that there is only one right away to do this job, and that is with strict independence by the books, playing it straight. >> bill: now there may be americans watching from the outside, with both lacking a lot of faith in our public intentions, what do you think christopher wray does to that? >> you know, the fbi is a well
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respected law enforcement agency, i think with him at the home, that would even increase of stature, i have no doubts that he will be independent, quite honestly, i am looking forward to the briefings where we will see them even in a more direct and transparent form, but i have no doubt in my mind that he is going to go where the facts lead him, he is going to keep a healthy separation between the agency and all of the elections on capitol hill and down to the other end of pennsylvania avenue. >> bill: senator, thank you for your time, senator from north carolina on that committee yesterday, thank you, sir. shannon. it's >> shannon: all right, so we are keeping an eye on paris, where the president is headed to the presidential palace, or the first couples talk together, and then the two leaders talk in private. we will keep an eye on that in then take you there live. back at home, will republicans come together on a new health care bill? skepticism already mounting,
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senator john mccain saying this just a short time ago, prospects are dim for the new bill. south dakota senator chair republican joins us live next. >> i am in philadelphia or pittsburgh, and voters are saying listen, we put our faith in you, we gave you the white house and the senate in the house, you need to deliver, we need relief.
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an uncertain fate, with some raising a lot of reservations, mitch mcconnell wants a vote on this next week, will it happen? joins us live, senator, thank you for making time for us. so you have heard the president say in an interview yesterday that he will be "angry" if this does not get done, if it doesn't, who is to blame? >> i do not think he will be the only one who will be angry, there will be a lot of people who will be angry, namely the american people, who have been waiting for us to carry out our promises, it is to the senate now, we will vote next week, the outlines of it today, but next week, it is time to vote, and to get on the bill, people can offer amendments, if they have ideas about how to improve it, everyone will have the opportunity to express that, we need to get this thing to the
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finish line and get something on the presence of desk that will rescue people from a failed obamacare system, that has markets collapsing and rates going through the roof. >> shannon: there are many things that we have heard of, something that would say listen, if the insurer has at least one plan that meets all of the obamacare regulations, people are worried that there will be higher premiums for others who are high-risk and those kinds of things, we understand that there is a another potential backup plan or amendments being worked on by senator ranch that would focus on medicaid and would not touch the obamacare taxes, that has been the proms all along, do you see the taxes staying in place to pay for some of these other things? >> shannon, the taxes that are affecting consumers need to go away, taxes on insurance plans and goals over the counter drugs and prescription drugs, medical devices, those raise the cost of insurance, raise the cost of health care in this country, and
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they need to be done away with, and i think this bill will do that, with respect to senator cruises amendments, there is a lot of merit in allowing people to actually buy of the insurance policy that they want, and i think that that is the rationale behind it, you have to look at how that impacts the broader insurance markets, and whether it makes the market more or less stable, and what it does for rates for people who are in the broader pool, so those are all questions that we are examining, but obviously, on the surface at least, we think that it makes sense to allow people to buy the entrance product that they want to buy. >> shannon: we are live in paris, the first couple now live at the presidential palace, élysees, they are in an important meeting for policy issues, i want to mention that to you as we are talking about domestic issues, i want to get a response to your colleague it, rand paul, he says that we are not doing much, just giving
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obamacare a little bit of a makeover, something that he would never vote for, so you are down at least one, senator collin saying look i thought that there would be a major overhaul, i probably can't vote for this, how do you get to 50? >> look, shannon, i think that individual senators have different things that they want to see, but in the end, this is a collaborative process, and you steak all of those ideas, put them into the mix, and gets the best outcome that you can, we have a bill that stabilizes the collapsing insurance markets, improves affordability for people, which is what people want to see, premiums come down, makes medicaid more sustainable, and liberates people from these mandates where they have to buy an insurance product that they don't want and can't afford, i think that's that is significant process, that is a win it, and that is going to have to be, i think it, a good enough outcome for us, it is clearly an improvement over what we have today, and based upon the various and diverse points of view that we have, we have to
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find the sweet spot, trying to find the balance and take into consideration all the different perspectives and come up with a bill that we think we can get on the president's desk, this thing gets rid of mandates, gets rid of taxes, and stabilizes the insurance markets, makes the coverage more affordable for more americans, that is a win. >> shannon: do you think that you can even proceed to the vote and then actually get to the bill, it just seems like an awful lot to get done, we hear about the august recess being extended or to being cut back, but essentially, you have this many other things to deal with, we hear that it is going to be next week. >> and that is why we need to do health care first, because this is sort of in terms of sequence, we have to get this done, then we can do the tax reform, the appropriation bill, all the other things that we need to do, but we need to get this done for the american people, next week is a critical week it, it is going to be the motion to get on
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the bill, if we can do that, people will have an opportunity to offer their amendments and have their voices heard to try to improve the bill, and hopefully by friday of next week, we will have a vote. it will enable us to put a bill on the presence desk. >> shannon: if you don't get there, what do you make of this? just repeal the whole thing and we will figure out the rest later? >> you know, i voted for repeal, i would vote for repeal again, but we have the responsibility to make sure that we put something in place that protects people with pre-existing conditions and that ensures those who are right now in plans that they can't use, deductibles that are out of sight, have opportunities to purchase insurance that works for them, so i think that doing this at the same time is the right way to approach this, i hope that we can get this done, but clearly we have members who would like to see the repeal comforts, but eventually, we have to come back with what we would do to replace that, so ultimately, how that
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happens is we will find out next week, but i think first and foremost, let's try to get this done, we have a bill, we will have it on the floor next week, we have to get it in the amendment process, see where it goes, and then try to wrap it up. >> shannon: we will be there for every twist and turn, senator, thank you. >> thanks, shannon. >> bill: we saw the president arrive at élysees palace, nellie talks began on syria, on isis, national security, so many other things, stay tuned it to fox because in about an hour or perhaps 90 minutes from now, there will be a joint news conference from paris for president trump and present speeds, so we will have that for you then. quick break here, just wanted to share that moment with you as we continue our coverage from new york city whoooo.
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>> shannon: you have seen them to gather in public this morning, the presence of the united states, and friends, they will now go behind closed doors, stay tuned because around 12:30, they are said to have a joint appearance, and we will bring you that laugh, so that is about an hour and 40 minutes away. >> bill: round one for the golf tournament, controversy today, there are women's advocacy groups that are protesting them because it is being held at one of president trump's golf courses, that is in new jersey, what are we expecting today, brian? >> high, the president is expected to arrive at his golf course tomorrow or the weekend, as his club hosts the women's national open championship here, but it is not without controversy, the usda, the usga, they chose this back in 2011,
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but that was before he decided to campaign for the presidency, they have been receiving a lot of pressure to move the championship to another golf course, last october, three democratic senators wrote letters, demanding that they move the championship after the infamous access hollywood tapes came out, after trump made the comments about women, they claim that the usga executive director told board members that they could not move this championship to another golf course because the president threatened to sue them, in a statement, he said "as a member of policy, the terms of our contract are confidential and accordingly, the usda will not comment." they say that they will be here this weekend, including a plane fly over with a banner, dump trump, it is unclear how close they can get to property,
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considering there will be a no-fly zone. >> bill: i am sure that the players are being asked about this, how are they answering? >> they are, 155 players, and so far, none of them have dropped out as a result of the decision to stay here and play here, but still, this is a distraction, considering that these players are now forced to answer awkward questions about their politics and not golf, considering she says she is not talking politics, there is another golfer, brittany, who took a lot of heat that she said she would prefer that the president not come because she prefers it to be about the golf. >> bill: good luck to all of them. >> shannon: will come of the summit in paris, trump meeting with the french president, macron, will trump have anything to say publicly about russia? a live report on that. ♪
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