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one of the things that lucas pointed out, some other arab states were asking to put in money. it's yet to happen. we're covering this at the state department as it makes news. we'll bring it to you on fox news channel. i'm harris. here's shep. >> shepard: 3:00 on the east coast, noon on the west coast. 9:00 p.m. in paris where the president is facing reporters on camera for the first time since the controversy over his son and a russian lawyer. >> most people would have taken that media. it's called opposition research or research into your opponent. >> more from the president ahead and the demand for his son to testify before congress. senate republicans revealing their new healthcare plan. it's already teetering on the brink. we'll see how it affects your coverage and your tax bill. why it may not even make it to the floor for a vote. plus, breaking this moment, an update on social security and medicare. how long each will last before
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the money runs out. and trapped inside an atm. yes, a person inside the atm. the worker who sent notes through the receipt slot begging for help. help me, help me, i'm trapped in the machine! sure you are. give me my $20. let's get to it. he was trapped in the atm. trapped in there without a phone. it's the best story of the day. i would have led with it if i could. there's real news. president trump is defending his son's meeting with a russian lawyer during the election by claiming most people in politics would have likely taken the same meeting. president trump made the comment in paris today during a joint news conference with the french president, emanuel macron. >> it's called opposition research. i've had many people -- i've been in politics two years. i've had many people call up oh,
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gee, we have information on this factor or this person or frankly hillary. that's very standard in politics. politics is not the nicest business in the world. it's very standard. they have information and you take the information. >> shepard: there you go. today was the first time president trump took questions from reporters on camera since he returned home from germany saturday. president trump called his eldest son a great young man and a fine person. he also said zero happened from the meeting. the lawyer was not with the russian government. she and russian officials have denied that she has ties to the kremlin. but she does. e-mails show a middleman that reached out to donald trump jr. to arrange the meeting called her a russian government attorney. said so right there in the e-mail. that's what she thought he was going to meet. the middleman claimed the woman had dirt on hillary clinton that was part of the russian government support for donald trump. the president's son says he took the meeting as a courtesy for an
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acquaintance. the e-mails show that donald trump jr. wrote, "i love it" when the middleman offered information that would incriminate hillary clinton. now republican judiciary chairman chuck grassley says he may subpoena donald trump jr. to get him to testify on capitol hill. john roberts is on the road with the president in paris. what else did he have to say about his son's meeting there, john. >> good afternoon, shep. an interesting press conference. shows the united states president and the french president are developing a relationship. we'll see how far it goes. a lot of issues that divide them. the president basically saying when it comes to his son that it's no big deal that the meeting was very short. there was nothing that came of it. pointing out that one of the participants jared kushner left after a few minutes. he said in another interview that paul manafort, the campaign manager or became the campaign manager after that meeting, was on his cell phone the entire
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time and not really paying attention. the president saying the media is blowing this all out of proportion and pointing to the idea that this russian attorney got into the country because of the obama administration, wondering why that happened. listen to what the president said here. >> i think the press made a very big deal over something that really a lot of people would do. now, the lawyer that went to the meeting, i see she was in the halls of congress also. somebody said that her visa or her passport to come into the country was approved by attorney general lynch. now maybe that's wrong. i just heard that a little while ago. little surprised to hear that she was here because of lynch. >> so clearly the president is trying to down play this whole thing. the very fact that senator charles grassley, republican of iowa, has -- is sending a letter to donald trump jr. asking him
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to come before the senate to testify really kicks this whole thing up a notch. >> shepard: president macron talks about russia as well, right? >> he did. he did in the context, too, of -- president trump has been criticized for trying to forge a better relationship with russia during the election when he thinks it would be better to be friends than adversaries. today at the press conference, president macron said the same thing as president trump. that while you might not agree with everything russia does and there's some things that you can disagree with them on, it's better to have a good relationship with them. listen here. >> i had two very long meetings with president putin, is very first one in versilles and the second in sicily. the relationship is important. we have a lot of difference. we have a lot of discrepancies
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with russian. but it's a necessity right now to work together to exchange information, to share these agreements and to try to build solutions. >> so macron himself from paris, newly minted president here, who was elected in june, say it's in france's best interest to have a good relationship with russia. that's a signal to the united states, might be a good idea for the u.s. to have a good relationship with russia as well. as to the point of climate change, and this was their biggest point of departure, president macron said at the press conference he respects the president's decision to pull out of the paris climate accord, that he's not going to let this disagreement get in the way of the bigger picture of the u.s.-france relationship. president trump today kind of surprising a lot of people by saying, well, maybe something will happen on the paris accord. he said it would be beautiful if it did. it's okay if it doesn't. suggesting the president might use this threat to pull out as leverage to try to renegotiate
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it. many of the signatories that have come out in public criticizing the president's decision saying you can't renegotiate this thing. you're either with us or not with us. shep? >> shepard: for the moment, we're not with them. john roberts in paris. thank you. let's bring in phillip from "the washington post." thanks for being here. this matter of calling donald trump jr. to testify, charles grassley, where is that on the scale? >> it's significant. you look at it outside of this administration and this moment, this is a person that received an e-mail saying i have a contact with the russian government that has opposition research, this is the heart of the meddling question. this happened. sure, if you're investigating the meddling to have that person come in testify. that is as donald trump jr. is someone that complicates things. but in other administration any other time, of course you'd ask them to testify. >> was it the conclusion of the reporters that the e-mail seemed to suggest at least there might
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have been other contact that we don't have context? >> there's certainly the implication in the e-mails that donald trump jr. released, there's very much the suggestion that there was a phone call between him and the center of this, that they had a phone call. tried to set a phone call up. there was this period there was supposed to be this phone call, donald trump says thanks for your help in this. the next day, donald trump jr., i think you know we're going to try to set up this meeting. that suggests there was a phone call during the interview with sean hannity. donald trump jr. said i don't remember. he didn't say there was that's important. what we're talking about is everything up until the time the meeting started, that's what's important. when that meeting started, he was able to understand that there was information from the russian government and looping donald trump's closest confidant, jared kushner and the guy running his campaign and get them to come to the room. there was an indication something significant is
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happening. it's not conveyed in the e-mails. >> shepard: speaking of paul man ford and jared kushner, anything from their camps? >> nothing that i've heard of. donald trump jr. says he was hoping to be transparent and releasing e-mails. this is not helpful information to the administration regardless how you look at it. i'm sure that jared kushner's attorneys and paul manafort's attorneys say it's best to stay out of this for now. >> where is michael flynn? has he flipped? >> it's a great question. i haven't seen any strong indication that he has. you know, that is a very different sort of investigation that is sort of ancillary to the whole russia thing saying if he took money from a turkish interest and supported them without revealing it. there's a lot of threads to this that sort of intertwine with what is going on with donald trump jr. >> one of the things that people that have concerned about all the lying seem to be focusing on is there any evidence anywhere that the russians have something
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on the president? that is one of the questions that so many of his detractors are asking. and they seem to think we'll find -- we may never -- this investigation will play itself out and we'll find out when it's over with. is anybody close to that? >> i honestly couldn't say. if i knew, i probably wouldn't reveal it here. >> come on. >> there are enough questions that exist outside of that that are worth pursuing that i'm fascinated to see where those questions alone go much less sort of the bigger picture idea. >> shepard: the president's speech, widely praised including by your newspaper. your thoughts of it and the lack of remarkable notes. >> that's right. we're used to donald trump getting in front of the microphone that seizes everybody's attention. he didn't do that today. he gave a straightforward speech related to bastille day and the american history with france. it was a traditional speech that
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you'd hear from an american trump. that's note worthy and in part because it was not remarkable. >> shepard: it happened at the g-20 as well. he gave another speech that was traditional and well-received. another tweet storm comes. is there a group within the white house trying to get him to stay to the scripts away from the twitter or have they given up on that? >> there category is a group trying to get him to stay on script. there was a moment that it was seized upon where he addressed the ambassadors and the military in france. he said you don't always get the credit. he drifted and said, you do get public credit and you deserve it. that moment crystallized this constant tension between what people want him to say and what he wants to say himself. >> thanks, phillip bump. senate republicans are out with a new healthcare plan. the russia conspiracy is still
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hanging over their agenda. reaction from capitol hill. one gop senator calling for donald trump jr. to testify. that's coming up on the fox news deck on a thursday afternoon.
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have dirt on hillary clinton from the russian government. the chairman, iowa's chuck grassley, says he wants the testimony to happen as early as next week. no response from donald trump jr. senator grassley says he wants trump's former campaign manager, paul manafort to testify. the committee will work with robert mueller before sending a subpoena. paul manafort was at the meeting with donald trump jr. and the russian lawyer along the president's son-in-law and senior adviser, jared kushner. what more are you hearing from other republicans, peter? >> some republicans are trying to distance themselves from some of the things that president trump has said like senator jeff flake who said every time that he runs a campaign, he does it differently than the president does. >> the president today said anybody in politics would have taken the meeting that his son took with the russian lawyer. what is your reaction to that? >> that doesn't include me. i wouldn't have. >> blake said that talking about
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russian is a distraction from the issues and something that speaker of the house, paul ryan has done on the other side of the capitol as well including when he asked about the idea of bringing donald jr. here to capitol hill. any witness asked to testify should. >> in public? >> i'll leave that up to the witnesses and the committees. anybody that has asked to testify before the senate said they should do that. >> so even as members and their staff prepare talking points about something like healthcare today, they are still being asked about russian. shep? >> what about democrats, peter? >> the democratic line today, shep, they're starting to ask whether or not people in the trump white house that are under investigation, attached to these allegations somehow should still have access to classified material. >> the very idea that some of these people should have
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security clearance after misrepresenting on their disclosure forms, there's just an arrogance, a disregard for what is ethical. >> however, not all democrats are willing to go as far as hillary clinton's running mate, tim kaine, who is calling donald jr.'s actions treasonist. >> what i would suggest so, there's a meeting between an american and an official of a presidential campaign and a foreign adversary or agents or spy of the russian government constitute a treasonous act. that's law. >> and nancy pelosi asserted the cloud of this russia investigation she thinks is worse than watergate. shep? >> shepard: the feels like temperature is 105 or capitol hill. get inside. president trump says he might change his position on the paris
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climate accord. we'll hear what he said and the tensions between the two countries and where they might work together. viva france! that's next.
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>> shepard: the president left open the door to reconsidering his withdrawal from the paris climate agreement. during the joint news conference with emanuel macron in paris, president trump said the two leaders briefly discussed the climate deal at a meeting at the presidential palace. >> something could happen with respect to the paris accord. we'll see what happens. but we will talk about that over the coming period of time. and if it happens, that will be
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wonderful. if it doesn't, that will be okay, too. >> shepard: he just tweeted about this like just now. donald trump tweeted "great bilateral meeting at the palace with emanuel macron. the relationship is unbreakable." the french president said there's other areas that france and the u.s. can work together. he said that donald trump and him agree to start on a post war road map for syria. he said the bond between france and the united states is unbreakable. alex isen is with us. what do you make of this climate agreement thing. that sounded like a done deal. we're out and forget ya'll. >> it's true. not only that, you'll remember that in his rose garden speech when he announced the decision, donald trump said he represented pittsburgh and not paris, which
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is an interesting tweak there. broadly speaking, it looks like president trump is trying to a little turn the page on some of these tensions with the french president. you'll remember a few weeks back when they had the famous or infamous six-secondhand shake that it looked like it was more of a stare-down contest. macron was trying to make it look like he was not going to be bullied. clearly this trip donald trump is trying to make things look like well, maybe they're a bit warmer and perhaps by signalling his flexibility on the climate accord, perhaps he's trying to suggest maybe there's a compromise that can be reached. >> shepard: his base doesn't believe in this climate stuff. a lot of them for some reason, they don't believe these facts. for him to go back into the paris climate accord, that sounds like politically that wouldn't be a great thing for his base. he seems to be pushing for the base anyway. >> right. sounds like the thing that ultimately won't happen. that perhaps the president was
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just saying in the glare of the moment at a press conference when he was standing next to the president of france. i will say this. he hemmed and hawed and unclear about what he would do. that is a rhetorical device that he use when perhaps he doesn't want to answer a question. >> shepard: as he told us, he has the best words. what do we expect -- they talk about areas where the two countries can work together. do we expect something to come out of this, something of substance? >> well, you know, it's hard to say. if there is, it could be perhaps defense related. it's interesting. they're going to be attending this parade tomorrow, which is focused on military traditions. the white house has been fairly complementary of the country in terms of how they have been willing to spend close to 2% of
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their gdp on defense, put towards defense issues. perhaps you could see something come out as related to the two countries willingness to fight terrorism or something of that nature. >> shepard: i was looking at the polls. they're everywhere today. president trump's approval rating in france is about like chris christie's in new jersey. they're close. i haven't seen them on a beach. i feel it will be coming. during these parades, what sort of measures are being taken to stop, you know, abe doctor parisians from acting like parisians? >> there could be some protesters and that is something that could, you know -- you could see a lot of footage on that tomorrow. hard to say. clearly the white house decided to send the president out there to france knowing that could well happen. look, at the same time, you'd have to think that trump is
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happy to be out of the u.s. at a time when so much of the news coverage at home focuses on his connections with russia. >> shepard: you're right about that. thanks, alex. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> shepard: those of you over there, happy bastille day. senate republicans out with their new healthcare bill in the u.s. they're one vote away, one vote away from not even being able to debate it. in other words, remember that motion to proceed like before you can get anything done, you have to agree we can proceed? no. we're live on capitol hill with a look at the new plan and reaction, plus a warning about the future of social security and medicare again. when they'll run out of money. that's next. i accept i take easier trails than i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter what path i take, i go for my best.
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>> i'm lea gabrielle with a fox report. an awards ceremony in north
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korea, state media reports kim jong-un congratulated scientists who worked on the recent launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile. analysts say it could reach alaska. storms causing heavy flooding in illinois. a state of emergency there. crews using rafts and boats to rescue people in their homes. a hospital says they transported 70 patients to other facilities after it lost power. the man accused of deliberately plowing his car into people in times square pleading not guilty to murder. investigators say a 18-year-old woman died and 22 others were hurt in the crash. according to prosecutors, richard rojas said he spokes pot with pcp and said he wanted to kill them all. the news with shepard smith continues after this.
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to come to the united states. u.s. officials say countries have 50 days to comply with the new rules or could face travel restrictions. rich edson has more. hello. >> good afternoon, shep. this was a cable transmitted to all diplomatic posts around the world. this is according to a story that was broken by reuters and now a senior state department official has confirmed the contents to the fox news channel. what the state department is communicating is that they want this list of data for those that are applying for visas to come into the united states. this is all part of the extreme vetting effort that the administration put forward in its policy release and review. this has gone to all diplomatic posts. they want to know whether the nations have electronic passports, moving to electronic passports and whether they're lost or stolen, that they're reporting that to interpoll.
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they want info on individuals to make sure that those coming into the united states can vet them to see if they have any links to terrorism. something that the administration wants to be sure of in this case, and the enter administration notes in this cable, there's some countries that are not living up to the standards and some question whether they will so they have 50 days to come up to the standards or else face travel sanctions. that could be barring more people from trying to come to the country, excluding people from visiting the united states because of this. this is a process that the administration is continuing to move forward on the executive order that it released months ago here. wanting more information from all countries within the next 50 days to have a process in place to do so or else it could see travel sanctions for those trying to travel to the united states could be excluded, shep. >> shepard: thanks, rich. senate gop leaders are rolling out a revised healthcare bill
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today. some republican senators are already coming out against it putting its future very much in doubt. here are some of the big take-aways. major cuts to medicaid stay in place. that was a sticking point for more moderate republicans. the bill includes senator ted cruz's amendment which allows insurance companies to offer cheaper plans that don't comply with obamacare regulations like protections for pre-existing conditions as long as they offer a plan that does. the revised healthcare bill removes tax cuts for the rich. mitch mcconnell told his colleagues that obamacare is headed to total meltdown and we can't let that happen. >> things are not likely to turn and unless we act. it's time to rise to the occasion. the american people deserve better than the pain of obamacare. >> shepard: but kentucky senator rand paul, one of the republicans that opposed the
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first bill said the revised bill doesn't change his mind. >> unfortunately, the new plan doesn't repeal obamacare. it keeps about half of the obamacare taxes, keeps most of the obamacare regulations. i'm just not for that i promised to repeal obamacare, not to continue obamacare. >> shepard: on the point he is accurate. the structure of obamacare remains in place with this gop replacement. it's just an idea at this point. it's not nearly becoming a law. senate gop leaders made changes against ten came out against the first draft. they can lose two votes. looks like they're already gone with the latest word from susan collins. from that let's get to mike emanuel. the senator from maine is a no here, right? no on the motion to proceed. >> that's right, shep. it's a bit of an anxious time for republicans. two of their own say they opposed the initial vote to bring this bill to the senate floor. main senator susan collins says
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she's upset about cuts in the growth of medicaid spending. kentucky senator rand paul says he doesn't like it. keeps too much of obamacare. rob portman says he's undecided on that procedural vote, what they call a motion to proceed. if portman is a no, the senate is stuck again. other republicans say they're still studies the updated plan. >> i probably said my two principles have been can't pull the rug out from under people that have insurance. that's what the affordable care act did. we don't want to repeat that. two, it has to be fiscally sustainable. >> kansas senator pat roberts says republicans would look silly if they can get this reform plan to the senate floor. roberts does say he feels there is a sense of urgency to act, shep. >> shepard: mike what are democrats saying as they look at a revised bill?
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>> the democrats are picking it apart saying components of this bill would be devastating for consumers. take patty murray, the democratic senator from washington state. she's attacking the plan by texas senator ted cruz that would allow people to buy cheaper stripped down plans, if that's what they choose to do. murray says it's like the majority leader, mitch mcconnell is allowing cruz to poison the bill. another democrat says the bill doesn't do enough on another major healthcare problem. >> here's the message on opioids. on opioids, this puts a band aid on a gapping wound that is the opioid epidemic. it's not going to come close to meeting the needs. >> democrats will be hoping that other republicans will join senators collins and paul in opposing the bill to force republicans to the negotiating table to fix obamacare, shep. >> shepard: mike emanuel on the hill. thank you, sir.
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breaking news. trustees that oversee medicare and social security are outlining a report to congress about funding for our government's two largest benefits programs. they wrapped up a news conference and garrett tenney is moderating it. garrett? >> the message of the press conference, for the most part, the future isn't worse than last year. the bad news, last year the outlook was bad. this year's report, the trust fund used to pay social security are still forecast to run out by 2034. for medicare, the trust sees said costs are expected to grow from 3.6% of the gdp to 25% by 2 2041. medicare parts b and d are on stable ground for the foreseeable future. together, medicare and social security are the federal government's two largest benefit programs and both are expected to grow significantly the next 20 years as members of the baby
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boomer generation grow older and medical advances allow folks to keep living longer. the costs are only expected to go up, shep. >> shepard: what are trustees saying how to keep these programs from running out of money? >> republicans have pushed both overhaul programs to continue. those efforts have fallen to the side for the time being. president trump campaigned in promise that he would not cut either program. instead, today treasury secretary steve mnuchin said the administration plans to focus on getting the economy going to make that happen. >> we should focus on strengthening the economy today. compounding growth will help projected shortfalls. to this end, it's essential for us to implement tax and regulatory reform. >> and their goal is to get gdp above 3% annually. experts have said that might not be enough. >> garrett tenney in d.c.
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we're learning more about the disappearance of four young men in pennsylvania. cops discovered at least one of their bodies. further details next.
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they posed and then they will eat. it should be a heck of a night there in the eiffel tower. the person of interest in the disappearance of four men in pennsylvania once bragged about having somebody killed over a debt. sort of friend of one of these missing men told the inquirer. the investigators have said that human remains have been found buried in a 12-foot grave. the remains belong to 12-year-old dean finacario. he's on the far left here. they say they're still working to identify the rest of the remains that are there. investigators say that cadaver dogs have done what they can to locate the grave on a farm about 30 miles north of philly. the district attorney called it a common grave. >> there are additional human
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remains inside that grave. so this painstaking process will go on. we're not done yet. this is a homicide. make no mistake about it. we don't know how many homicides. >> the person of interest is cosmo denardo. his parents own the farm where the remains are found. right now denardo is not facing charges. investigators say he's facing charges for stealing and trying to sell a car that belonged to one of those missing guys. prosecutors say he suffers from a severe mental illness. rick leventhal with us this afternoon. officials cancelled a news conference that was supposed to happen this hour. does that tell us anything? do we know why? >> it's possible, shepard, they want to wait till they can positively identify the victims in the mass grave. we don't know at this point. this morning i asked the d.a. if
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he believed the other three missing men were in that mass grave. he said he could not or would know say just yet. he said it was too premature. as you know, they have said there's remains in there and they're working to remove them carefully and positively identify them as the families of the missing wait very anxiously on the side lines on what is, as you well know, a very hot and muggy day. >> they're working shifts due to the exhausting conditions. the heat, the dust, the humidity. but they actually have to be ordered to stand down from their shift so that they can be replaced. >> last night's briefing, shepard, came at midnight. so we can get an update at any time. >> tell us more about this person of interest, rick. >> well, cosmo denardo is still behind bars at the bucks county jail. he could walk out at any time. he walked out tuesday when he was arrested on a gun charge. his dad posted a $100,000 bail,
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10% of the $1 million bail that was set. now he's there on a $5 million cash bail. the family has to come up with $5 million to free him from custody. this as investigators try to recover more evidence presumably to keep him behind bars on new charges. we say that. he's the only person of interest who has been named so far. he was reportedly seen with one of the missing friday night and the bodies that are being recovered were buried on a farm belonging to his parents. it's a difficult case for the family members, the victims and also for the denardo family. we have heard from an attorney representing denardo's parents that said that they as parents too sympathize with the families of the victims and they are cooperating with investigators, shepard. >> shepard: rick leventhal. we'll go back should developments warrant. you may not be able to use cash at some stores and restaurants if visa gets their way. have you heard about this?
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the credit card giant is unveiling part of the new plan to put cash out of business. which could have helped that guy that got stuck in the atm. like inside the machine. man in machine. help me, help me, he said. lest this atm leave me dead. across the country, we walk. carrying flowers that signify why we want to end alzheimer's disease. but what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor? what if there were millions of them? join us for the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's. register today at alz.org/walk. it's just a burst pipe, i co(laugh) it. no. with claim rateguard your rates won't go up just because of a claim.
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>> shepard: company executives at visa say that they're trying to get small businesses to stop taking cash. the credit card giant announced this week that they'll give $10,000 to up to 50 small businesses so they can upgrade their payment technology and stop accepting any paper money. or coins or anything else. visa execs are calling it the
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journey to cashless. i read this in the "wall street journal." i'm like bribing them to stop taking cash? that's quite a thank. >> that's what it takes, my friend. cash is king. they're trying to build up their market share. cash is responsible for 32% of transactions out there. 27% to debit cards. 21% credit cards. they're losing the game here and they want to bolster their share of the marketplace. in the u.k., it's 50% credit cards. they're losing here. >> shepard: what are the draw backs to cashless? >> big draw backs for you and me and every other consumer. the average family has $16,000 worth of credit card debt. that is huge. when you add in the interest fees, it goes up. if you had $3,000 on a credit card right now and you paid the minimum, it would take you 16 years. and pay $3,300 in interest. there's something else going on here that is not obvious. there's a down side for the vendors themselves.
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the national retail federation has this so say. when a customer pays by cash, the merchants get 100 cents on the dollar and doesn't have to give up a share of the sale to the bank. that helps hold down prices and a win for retailers. when a customer pays with a credit or debit card, the banks take money out of the hand of the retailer and it's lose-lose. they call them swipe fees. that's why they give retailers money. >> shepard: rude. >> they're having to pay the swipe fees anyway. >> shepard: most of the younger people don't use cash anyway. they never have it. you use aero in the cab. it's almost over anyway. >> old school, right? >> shepard: i like having cash. i feel like people in service industries like to get cash. i used to be a waiter, bartender. i get it. not having to pay taxes on that money was nice. of course i paid taxes on mine. every bit.
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>> but using credit cards is not a bad thing if you don't revolve the debt. it's a big advantage. you can get points. it's convenient. it's a good thing. if you resolve the debt, you're playing with fire. let me tell you. >> shepard: can it be a mess. nice to see you. cops say they arrested four suspects that stole a giant cold coin from a museum in berlin. hear about this? >> no. >> shepard: i didn't either. words are big. >> i'm blind. >> shepard: you're perfect. welcome back, lillian. >> thank you. >> shepard: what is this coin? >> 220 pounds, as you said. 24 karat pure gold. worth $4.5 million. this is another image. you can see how big it is. >> a suitcase. >> on display in berlin up until last march. cops say thieves shattered the
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glass -- >> shepard: what are you going to do with it? >> apparently they melted it down. you won't get the coin back. one of these guys arrested was a security guard. started working at the museum a few weeks before the heist. >> shepard: probably melt him down. have you seen this atm story? >> i have. >> shepard: i love this story. the atm that started spitting out desperate nothingness because it doesn't roll. you know what it is. atm is next. that's cool. showing off my arms? that's cool. being comfortable without a shirt? that's cool. getting the body you want without surgery, needles, or downtime? that's coolsculpting. coolsculpting is the only fda-cleared non-invasive treatment that targets and freezes away stubborn fat cells. visit coolsculpting.com today and register for a chance to win a free treatment.
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>> shepard: cops in texas say a man stuck inside an atm machine slipped notes through the receipt slot asking customers to get help. happened at a bank of america near corpus christi. police say a contractor got trapped while he was changing the lock in there in a room right behind the atm. so basically he's stuck in the atm. they said he left his card key and cell phone in the truck.
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he couldn't call anybody or open the door. one of the notes he said, please help, i'm stuck in here and i don't have a phone. please call my boss. cops say most customers thought it was a ridiculous joke. somebody did call 911 after a couple hours and said they heard a feint voice coming from inside the atm machine. an officer kicked in the door to the room and freed the man. on this day in 1985, music's biggest stars got together for live aid. it was a concert to fight hunger that killed hundreds of thousands in africa. the show happened in london and philadelphia at the same time. pop stars including madonna, sting, phil collins played in both cities thanks to a flight on the concord. more than a billion people
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around the world watched. live aid raised more than $125 million after rock stars helped feed the world 32 years ago today. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: man, i'm getting old. that was 32 years ago? thank you, shepard. i'm neil cavuto. another record on the dow. if all of these concerns about russia and all this and the french leader and the american leader getting along, if that was a big worry and we're going to hell in a hand basket, wouldn't we be selling off? we're not. we're on capitol hill and it's a frantic rush right now on the senate floor with an alternative that will be acceptable to enough republicans to make this thing happen. in new york city, they're betting that they'll get something cobbled together. that might be wishful thinking when we