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"the next revolution" will be televised. the executive d.c. elite more out of touch than ever. teachers block changes that could help america's children. we expose the shocking profiteer profiteering of hospitals to push up your healthcare costs. and we have kimberly's food court. welcome to "the next revolution." i'm steve hilton and this is the home of positive populism. elitism was back with a vengeance. while you wait for something, anything to come out of washington that helps your life. there is a frenzy of sanctimonious time wasting.

we already know russia attacked us last year. we need retaliation, not more investigation. but i spotted something that explained much of what's going on in politics. this is mike allen. most of people in america will never have heard of him. but everyone in decadent d.c. knows him. he's the ultimate insider who writes a daily newsletter. this week he went on a rant that was profounding revealing. the trump administration is not normal, he said. over and over again he lists things that are not normal. be smart, he said it's just not normal. working americans don't want normal. what has normal done for them? as peggy noonan put it two wars

and economic collapse and borders we no longer pretend to control. donald trump was sent to washington to be the opposite of normal. he's certainly delivering on that. the 50% of americans who are the victims of elite failure. when they see the elite going on and on about russia, they sight of as an insult to them and the real crisis in their lives. i know you in the elite are mystified about this. you talk about the reality of pro-trump media coverage that downplays the russia story. don't you see? that's how half the country thinks of you. they think you are living in an alternative reality where real world problems are ignored or down played. no one has apologized by the

elite's inability to handle the disruption cause offed by technology or globalization and china's entry into the world trade organization in 2001. you people in washington, you really hurt working americans with your elitist agenda. now, you want us to listen to you over some demeanted obsession with russia. when you apologize for what you have done to working americans, then working americans might listen to you. now to discuss all that. i'm joined by co-host of "the five" kimberly guilfoyle. and former nevada assembly woman lucy flores. thank you for joining us. i don't want to get into the

details of the meetings and who was there. i am much more interested in what it says about our political culture, the fact you have got two sides. you have got half the country who thinks this is the worst thing that ever happened and the only thing we should be talking about. and the other half looks at that and thinks it's crazy. kimberly: it's old news in terms are terms -- in terms of russia trying to point fear with elections around the world. should we be concerned about it? absolutely. it's become more a whole thing about delusions. people are delusional about the collusion. they are not getting anything done so the working class, men and women across this tridon't want knowing do with that. they want food on the table, jobs, something done about

healthcare and they want washington to get to work. but washington is sick. they are weighted down with all this and it's become very ineffective and all they do is s bloviate on and on about this. donald trump was ushered in to change things and shake it up. we'll see if mueller comes to some kinds of conclusion relatively quickly. i hope he does for the sake of the country and the goodwill with everybody. this obsession is so unhealthy and counter productive to everything we are spotted to stand for. people rrnlt work on them, they are focusing on this obsession with russia. steve: a great summary. whatever side you come from. lucy, from the left, do you

think there is anyone in the democrats or just on the left generally handling this right who is speaking up for working people? >> i think in general d.c. always had a problem walk and chewing gum at the same time. democrats did it because they had to take attention way from the election. now it's literally just really a problematic with d.c. in general. the american people should be hearing about what's happening to the healthcare debate, and the fact so many people are about to lose necessary and critical healthcare services and here we are going on and on. i think it's us. i think it the the show, those of us who continue to be -- try

to be forceful in having these conversations for the american people. steve: i think, joe, this isn't just limited to democrats. you have got conservatives on the right who are caught up in this and focused on something that dponts affect their lives as well. do you agree with that? which side are you on? is this about russia or do you think it's ridiculous? >> i think this not much there there. it's almost -- it's almost as those government -- federal government has gotten so large and the right and left, 20% of gdp is spent by the federal government, and they don't know how to handle it. it's easier to focus on a

mysterious grisham novel. steve: the reason i use the term decadent d.c., why can't -- it's so frustrating. kimberly: if you talk about both parties. republicans have become obsessed built. the democrats as well. but you talk about a lot on your show about this populism and positive population. people want to get things going and get the economy going. the problem with the democrats and the liberals, they lost sway with the working men and women, the working class and middle class who got frustrated and gravitated towards donald trump for the reasons you are focused on.

not the bizarre kgb spy novel stuff that people are obsessed with. steve: on that side, i think kim makes a good point. you have the democrats who lost touch, but the one person who didn't is bernie sanders. it seems to me there is a lot of people attacking him, his wife, all this stuff about land deals and trying to tarnish him. there is a story in the "new york times" today. >> when we talk about decadent d.c. is bernie can't be bought. bernie crowd funded the majority of his campaign. he raised hundreds of millions of dollars from every day people giving small amounts of money. and that's the kind of people, and that's why at the same time people gravitated the towards

someone like donald trump. they feel like they are outsiders and there is a tendency to not want people to have some kind of loyalty to the insider lobbyist class writing the donor class, et cetera. that's what people want. they want this outsider. however, i have to say in terms of what donald trump has done to bring real change to d.c., i haven't seen it there either. steve: i actually agree. i said the first time i was on the show, we'll hold him to account. kimberly: i'm not interested in turning this into a republican versus a democratic theme. the conversations needs to be about who are these people? if they were donald trump, i would say fantastic, i'm not that party but he's draining the swamp. i think the american people want that outsider perspective.

the person who is not obligate to this insider decadent d.c. class. steve: it's not just about the white house. it's also who is in congress. george, i want to leave it with you. is your sympathy with the outsiders storming the barricades? >> in general, yes. we are supposed to have a federal government that is highly responsible to people's needs. not directly to represent but actively think conceiving of policies to advance people's interests. they are not doing that. in figure they are probably too directly responsible to people who helped elect them two months earlier. we have such a curtailing of election cycle now. somebody gets into the house. they are running for reelection.

kimberly: instead of the interests of people who elected them. steve: there are mind-boggling amounts of money made by hospitals. an interview no parent should miss. education reform in america. how can we get powerful teachers unions to put the interests of the children first. we grilled up revolutionary food in our parking lot and kimberly will try it out later in the show. [boy] cannonball! [girl] don't... [man] not again!

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was able to break the stranglehold teachers had on the city. he's running for governor. he's talking about how he did the and how it might happen nationwide. to me this issue is so fundamental. and often it's a left-right thing. but you showed it doesn't need to be. tell us when you were mayor of los angeles, what you did and how you did it. >> it's the economic and civil rights issue of our time, particularly when you look at who's not getting educated. they are primarily poor kids of color. when i became mayor we had a 44% graduation rate. i took it on. i didn't take it on to take on the teachers union or the other bureaucrats. i wanted to fight for kid, and i

did. we set high standard. we are going to say i believe in you, i will invest in you. we moved our graduation rates from 44% to 72%. i took in a subset of the schools with 36% graduation rate and they now have 84%. steve: when you say take it on. what was the reform? >> i got the 8 to give the mayor the opportunity to partner with the school district. when we passed that. arnold schwarzenegger signed it, a democratic legislature passed it. the school district sued and fought. so we decided to elect a school board that was supportive of our efforts to put kids first. that helps create a situation

where we doubled the number of successful schools at 800 and above and increased the graduation rate. steve: the system itself wasn't going to deliver results. >> it was clear they weren't. the high school i graduated from had a 20% graduation rate in 2001. when i became mayor in 2005, they improved to a 35%. steve: you actually at one point were an organizer for the teachers union. but you weren't called the united teachers union. what was the one roadblock? >> they didn't like the. i'm pro union and pro teacher. they have a tough job. but i'm pro kid. i believe in unions, i think

parents ought to have one, and i think kids don't have one so i was going to fight for them. that's what we did. you talked about the innovation economy, we won't have one if these kids aren't graduating from high school. we are in a state with 80% graduation rate. 13% of the kid of color are going to four-year colleges. that's not a recipe for success. the next governor will have to set high standard and bring technology into our classrooms. rethink what schools look like. we pattern our schools including the school year after an agrarian economy that doesn't make sense. steve: i talked about it, too. they like factory schools. they are churning out kids like they are on a production line. it's often it is the

institutions, the existing school boards and the unions and people who invested in the status quo in the way of change and you took that on. i am interested in what that felt like. for you as a politician from the left, what did it feel like? >> i wasn't looking for a fight. but i grew up in a tough neighborhood and i wasn't afraid of a fight. i tried to partner for a couple years. but when there was opposition after opposition to anything that was new, we started to push back. steve: that's the kind of leadership i think you have got to see. otherwise it will all stay the same. >> this isn't left or right. this is the right thing to do for kids who without that kind of advocacy, we are not making enough progress. steve: totally agree.

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steve: welcome back to "the next revolution." we heard from the former l.a. mayor. tell us about your experience as a teacher. >> have much like the mayor, i'm pro kid. it's not that we didn't need certain things in nevada. but the way the education association was going about it, i was against. because i had the courage to say i don't agree with this. but i don't agree this is the way. i ended up losing that support

and i did not get it back. that affected my next campaign. many of us who do oppose who for the most of part are friends. when we have to say in this situation yes we are still friends, but this is what's important, what we are going to accomplish for these children, it doesn't go very well for us. steve require shouldn't be a left-right thing. >> it shouldn't. i prefer a partnership. at some point people will realize that's the best way to go forward. but i'm going to fight for those kids. i was one of them. if i grew up in a home with chog and drugs and i was a high school dropout. i group like many of them, we

were making too many excuses before. and those excuses aren't acceptable. it's just a fact. steve: joe, it isn't something you can just fix from on high by some bureaucrat telling. you need changes. >> it's a structural problem. economists have studied this for decades. maybe you have unions in the car factories. but the idea of a public sector union where not on are they bargaining collectively to extract as much as they can, but they are also hoping to elect their bosses with whom they are bargaining. steve: you expect to be governor. you are trying hard.

just in terms of the debt and the fiscal position of california. that's a big issue for any politician running for office. >> it is a big issue and i have a track record. we were facing a bankruptcy. almost everybody said l.a. was going bankrupt. i got current employees to go from 6% to 1% contribution to their pension. then i said, instead of getting 100% of their salary at 55 would get 50% at 65. unfortunately they changed that after i left now it's back to where it was. kim rrp i have some strong opinions about education, having

worked as a teacher and been an educator. i caught kindergarten through high school, and specializing in children with emotional needs. i saw how poor the system is in some of these public schools where you have children being treated not as individuals but as a collective group. it's important to bring education away from the national level like to common core. it's not one size fits all. take it down to the local level and make it tailored for a child's need. and give parents some of that choice to be a success with charter schools and the parents being participatory in it. and i would like to see reform. you should reward good teachers. steve: this is something you did in terms of the performance in

teachers? >> yes, we said we thought it was important top evaluate our teachers. we have done surveys that showed oftentimes the principal hadn't been in a classroom but would evaluate these people and oftentimes give them a satisfactory or better evaluation. what we said is you have got to go into the classroom. and we should be able to evaluate on a number of factors including where a kid starts and where they ends up. not the only factor, but one of the factors. >> i think it many important to talk about accountability across the board. there are just as bad charters and there are bad public schools. we need accountability at all levels whether it's public or private. steve: that's a fair point. if we had more of a marketplace

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steve: tonight we've continue our three-part swamp watch series on one of the most of important and contentious issues we face. healthcare. it's the biggest expense for the average family and outrageously expensive. 1981 it was the cause of 8% of

brupss. the reason republicans are having such problems reforming obamacare is it all costs so much. we showed how the pharmaceutical industry and its corrupt stooges in congress keep drug prices high. tonight we'll talk about the role hospitals play. hospitals sounds like charitable institutions. most of of them avoid paying tax because they are charitable non-profits. the local hospital with your friendly doctor has been replaced by vast mega hospitals run by administrators in multi million done a packages. like michael dowling.

he raked in $10 million a year. let's all join a non-profit. the insanely expensive hospital bills you get. if you are a go-getting chief executive, healthcare or farm -- or pharmaceuticals is the business to be in. those in healthcare and pharmaceuticals were paid $37 million more than any other sector. communications, real estate and industrials don't even come close. a "wall street journal" analysis found the largest non-profit compensation package went to a non-profit ascension.

i have nothing against high pay. i believe in markets and people who create value in the marketplace should be rewarded. but it's got to be fair. especially in healthcare where there is a lot of taxpayer money sloshing around. the reason hospitals can pay their boss so much is they charge so much either through your insurance or tax for obscene amounts of money. they have a charge master. the charge master price isn't based on cost. even something as simple as a pack of gauze pads can some of the $70. if you want to save money you want to check it out. it even comes from free two-day

shipping. but how do they get away from this profiteering? simple, squeeze out the competition. we have seen wave after wave of mergers of hospitals. a study look at hospital mergers found they didn't improve quality of care and hospital consolidation generally results in higher prices. when hospitals morning in already concentrated markets, the price increase can be dramatic. often exceeding 20%. they are not just harming patients, they are also costing taxpayers while making politicians super healthy. rick scott, the same rick scott who is not you republican governor of florida. he was won chairman of the hospital network and had the

swampy distinction of presiding over the largest fraud in u.s. history. the hospital corporation. america paid a $1.7 billion settlement for fraudulently billing taxpayer medicare by filing false cost reports. they admitted to giving doctors partnerships in the their company hospital as a kickback for those doctors referring patients to the hca. what was the quality of care like? according to the money-driven medicine, not good. scott was focused on profits, not patient care. one technician complained about having to watch 72 heart man towards at once. nurses complained babies in the neonatal unit were left unattended for up to 3 hours. scott who resigned as chairman

of the company got a $10 million settlement and left with $300 million worth of stock and then he somehow got elected of florida and now boasts he helped shape the gop plan to repeal and replace obamacare. great, just the kind of person you want involved. non-profit has gotten in on the racket as well by price fixing and building super monopolies. upmc controls 55% of the market, recorded $13 billion in revenue. quite the charity. meanwhile the region's main health insurer controlled between 60% to 80% of the market. as steven brill documents in his

book "by "bitter pill." he cording to the complaint the hospital and insurer were colluding to eliminate competition and drive up prices, harming the patient they are supposed to care about. high mark agreed to pay sharp increases because it could raise premiums with no fear of competition. guess how much the ceo of this tax exempt non-profit hospital was making? $4 million a year. even regular doctors are in on the racket. doctors refer patient to each other and keep patients in hospital longer than necessary risking picking up infection

just to make more money. while you are watching the point scoring over the senate healthcare bill just remember it's all beside the point unless the grandstanding politicians in the pockets of the health triactually do something about healthcare costs. that will only happen if we drain the health swamp. i can't wait to get stuck into the health insurance companies next week. don't mitts. the panel reacts to this week's swamp watch. and can this burger revolution revolutionize. kimberly and the panel put the burger to the taste test. don't miss it. whoa! you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa!

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steve: let's get our panel's take on this week's swamp watch. you are a free market guy. we do not have free market healthcare in america. >> no, we don't. there is a pot of federal big money that's always out there. so hospitals want their

reimbursement. get guess what, they will set high prices. you sell watches. steve: how do they get away with it? >> in some places there is competition. in northern california there are two hospitals. the self-contained system works better. stanford university is beautiful where a robot dispenses the drugs for you. >> i think this is. >> the really hot topic people are talking about, people have been whining about obamacare and healthcare for years. now they have the house and the congress, the senate, the oval. now they have to do something about it. there is a real lack of

competition. i'm a big free marketer. and it bothers me when i see monopolies of hospitals. and it's squeezing profits at the expense of quality of care it's become so transitional that you are losing the ability to focus on the individual coming family members trying to get affordable care to the point where people are afraid to get it. they are making choices which makes us sicker as a nation, and people aren't taking care of themselves. steve: what's interesting is that's not in the conversation in this bill. we don't talk about the competition. >> i'm asupporter of universal healthcare for all. single payer expansion of medicare. whatever that looks like, i think to kim's point, when you start to put profits over people, profits over good

healthcare, then that's always a recipe for disaster. ultimately when you have someone whose job description is to get the most of amount of money, the most of amount of profits for his investors, then that's what he's going to do. steve: i want to make it clear, i believe in the profit motive. i think it's a driving force. for many of the good things we see in the world. but it on works if we have cop mettive markets. kim: i believe you can achieve that. there should be payment of costs for the far suit cal companies and providers and that can be achieved under a single-payer system. but you have to remove the profit motive out of the entire system.

kimberly: venezuela. who wants to go there for medical care. >> we are the youth, we can figure this out. that's what our elected representatives are supposed to be doing for us theoretically. we can figure this out. steve: as we know, this is a debate that will go on and on. i'm pleased we got to talk about some the aspects of it. >> so many places where we agree. steve: we'll do it again and figure it next time. you have seen her food reviews on "the five." but how will kimberly guilfoyle rate a revolutionary new delicacy.

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want to thank our panel and say thank you to you for joining us. i'm steve hilton. join us next week for thefinalld to bolt and empty-handed. police are searching for them. >> so glad you could join us this weekend. the fox river port is up next. thanks for being with us. >> a fox urgent desperate search underway in central arizona. merelnearly a dozen people swepn a river after flash floods swept through a popular swimming hole. some swimmers were clinging to trees and at least eight are dead. first, the white house is looking to shift focus as president trump railed against russia scandal coverage. you are watching the fox report. the trumpet ministration kicking off made in america week with