them to them. >> sean: well said. that's all this and we have. thank you for being with us. this show will always be fair and balanced. we are not the established media. thank god. see you tomorrow night. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we are alive back in the studio for the second hour. there is breaking news. senator john mccain has been diagnosed with brain cancer, the same cancer that killed senator ted kennedy in 2009. mccain underwent surgery last week to remove a blood clot in his brain. doctors discovered a aggressive tumor. dr. said mccain remains in strong overall health and is considering treatments. washington was shocked.

outpouring of support for the senator. he is from washington. the president released the statement "john mccain has always been a fighter. melania and i send our thoughts to their entire family." vice president tweeted this "answer picked on the wrong guy. john mccain is a fighter and will win this fight." george h.w. bush, "the hanoi hilton could not break john mccain's spirit years ago. we know he will meet this battle in his singular life of courage." barack obama tweeted "john mccain is an american hero, one of the bravest fighters i've ever known. cancer doesn't know what its applicants." hillary clinton on twitter "john mccain is as tough as they come.

thinking of them and their wonderful children tonight." steve scalise, still recovering from his own injury, tweeted "praying for my friend senator john mccain, one of the toughest people i know." the theme, toughness. furthermore, we are joined by fox news chief national correspondent ed henry. >> one of his closest friend, senator lindsey graham. he said he spoke by phone in the last hours with senator mccain and in his words, he was resolved and determined at that john mccain said "i've been through worse." we got a heartfelt and emotional statement from our fox news colleague meghan mccain. >> the news has affected everyone in the family. we have all endured the shock of the news and we live with the

anxiety about what comes next. it is an experience familiar to us given my father's previous battle with cancer, it is familiar to the countless american families whose loved ones are also stricken with the tragedy of disease and the inevitability of age. if we could ask anything of anyone now it would be the prayers of those of you who would understand this all too well. we would be so grateful for that." it won't surprise you to learn that meghan mccain says the one who was most confident and calm as my father. "he is the toughest person i know. the cruelest enemy could not break him. the aggressions of political life could not bend him. he is meeting this challenge as he has every other. cancer may afflict him in many ways, but it will not make him surrender. nothing ever has." meghan continues that "my love for my father is boundless and like any daughter i do not wish to be in a world without him. i have faith that those days remain far away. even in this moment my fears for him are one thing above all, gratitude for the years together and the years still to come.

a warrior at dusk, one of the greatest americans of our age. and a worthy heir to his fathers and grandfather's name. to me, he is something more. he is my strength, my example, my refuge, my confidant, my teacher, my rock, my hero, my dad." a very emotional statement from our colleague at fox, meghan mccain, reminding all of us that for all of the political battles in washington, the talk in recent days of mitch mcconnell trying to figure out when john mccain after the initial illness and the blood clot had been diagnosed him happily he could get back to washington to vote on health care. been put aside as americans come together tonight and rally around senator john mccain. >> tucker: his mother still alive at 105. amazing person. >> many years of public service beyond justice time in the senate. >> tucker: grew up on capitol hill. thank you. for more on the prognosis of

senator mccain, we are joined by dr. andrew sloan. thanks for joining us. what does this diagnosis mean? >> my pleasure. it's the most common and unfortunately the most malignant of all primary brain tumors and is considered a grade four tumor. survival is between 14 and 15 months on average. that said, you know, people are living longer and longer as they get more and more aggressive treatment. people with a fighting attitude such as senator mccain tend to do better and there is a lot, in addition to the standard treatment which is surgery as well as radiation, chemotherapy. people are also doing experimental treatments with immunotherapy, tumor vaccines.

there is an electrical device that seems to slow the division of remaining tumor. and all of these seem to be helpful. the biggest prognostic indicator that the physicians can control is extensive reception. one of the things physicians will be looking at is whether they got as much tumor as they can. sounds like when they originally went in, they went in thinking this was a blood clot and not necessarily with the diagnosis of tumor in mind. >> tucker: how common is it? >> well, with age, it becomes increasingly common. as i said, it's the most common primary malignant brain tumor. only about 2% of all cancer. >> tucker: this is the same disease that killed senator ted kennedy. >> and i think bo biden as well.

>> tucker: there is obviously treatments. is there a cure? >> well, cure is a word we don't use very often with vh. i would caution you that despite the grim prognosis, we do have two and five and occasionally ten years survivors. again, i think as long as he's doing well and it sounds like he's doing quite well, i think if he treats it aggressively, there's no reason why he can't do well for a couple more years. >> tucker: appreciate your perspective. john mccain undeniably one of the pivotal figures in the last half-century of political and military history. he followed his family in the navy and became an aviator. 1967 he was shot down during a combat mission over north vietnam, over hanoi. he spent six and a half years as

a prisoner of war, some in the notorious hanoi hilton. repeatedly tortured, arms were broken but he still refused offers of early release. when he came home, he became an american hero. 1973. 1982, he was elected to the house from arizona followed by 1986 election to the senate. in 2000, he made a strong challenge to george w. bush. he lost but he did win the nomination in 2008, went on to be defeated by barack obama. he's remained a leader of republicans in the senate. sarah palin was his running mate into thousand eight and she joins us by phone. what's your reaction? >> oh, first promote beautiful words from meghan mccain suggesting her dad, senator mccain, he is a fighter. knowing him, he doesn't want us

to be anxious. he is one to endure. he's going to tell us soon, i'm sure, using these hardships as fuel to endure and i'm sure how he will face the situation. in politics in today's society in general, personal loyalty is an almost nonexistent virtue. in my life, and my families life, senator mccain has embodied loyalty. i can't tell you how rare and valuable and respectful that is. i wish more people could know him personally, as my family does. >> tucker: what a kind thing to say. in every tribute we read, we read a bunch of different statements from everybody, former presidents, hillary clinton. i think every one of them mentioned his personal courage and toughness. did that come through? >> absolutely.

his tenacity and thick skin, would you have to have at the level he serves. obviously he is a fighter and if i were going to war, i would want him leading the charge. >> tucker: have you talked to him recently? >> the last time i spoke with him relatively recently, bless his heart. he continues to kind of apologized when i speak with him. we have a good laugh about what the two of us went through together and still go through together and what our families go through in the public eye. i told him this last go-round, enough of the apologies. i will forever be grateful for the opportunity he provided me. you know, i hope people will understand the humanity in this situation and those who would put politics in front of

diagnosis like senator mccain is facing, they just need to come up put it bluntly, stop with the cruel comments already and understand what really matters at a time like this. and understand families have endured a lot, gone through a lot of hardships, they understand what really matters today. to put themselves in cindy and meghan and the other kids shoes, understand prayers for their strength and god's enveloping arms around them will be really made manifest here in the coming days. >> tucker: he comes from a family where there has been an awful lot of suffering. he's got a big family. you do too. you got to know them as well. >> absolutely. i will forever be grateful to

cindy and john, their kindness they have shown our family. how wonderful they were, especially to our youngest, our son. he was on the campaign trail at 16 weeks old. they have watched him grow up into a vibrant, happy 9-year-old child. they loved him then and they love him now and that means a lot to me. that bodes well for senator mccain's character. again, the persona that is portrayed through the media, people need to know it's not always the persona that is genuine in that person. senator mccain is a good man. all the best to him and his family. i appreciate the strength he is showing and he will continue to show and thankful for him. >> tucker: it's interesting. a guy with a reputation for being pugnacious but in private,

excellent manners. noticeably gracious manners. i've always noticed that. >> and he is funny as heck. when he gets with a couple buddies and they are cutting up and telling stories, he's a good guy. >> tucker: governor palin, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> tucker: there was other news tonight. that's why we are here live, and interview in "the new york times," president trump launched into an unexpected attack with attorney general jeff sessions. he said "he was going to recuse himself, he should've told me before i took the job and i would have picked somebody else." that will be a story tomorrow, and we will be on it. "tucker carlson tonight." we will be right back. customer: thanks for coming, it's right over here.

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enrique, thanks for coming back. we've had you on a couple of times. one of the reasons i want to talk to you, is because sciencen has weighed in on the conversation you and i have had about the effect of sanctuary policies on crime. you and a lot of others have made the case, look, if we crack down on illegals, they aren't c going to report crimes to police. now we know that that didn't happen and that in phoenix crime went down when the city stopped ignoring federal law. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, i don't advocate for illegals, i call people people. they are human beings. they are not illegal aliens or illegal human beings. >> tucker: i'm saying that they are in the country illegally. >> they are not legal aliens. >> tucker: call them what you want, we are talking about the same group of people. >> i like to use humane terms. phoenix is probably the same size as san diego, the city of my birth, the city than i am in right now. in san diego, which isn't officially a sanctuary city,

it's a safe city, which is almost exactly the same, here, crime has been very low. law enforcement here, and overwhelmingly across the country -- i'm talking about police and sheriffs, they don't want to act as immigration agents. they want to have trust within the community. like you have in san diego, one of the safest cities in the country. the same size as phoenix, except we are right next to the border. i was in tijuana today, for example. it's only 15 minutes away. >> tucker: i grew up there. i know where it is. let me ask you this. why, on the subject of illegal immigration, do liberals want police to make the rules? i don't want cops to make the rules on stop and frisk oror racial profiling, when it comes to this, the cops want to. in our country, lawmakers make the laws. the question is, will the police carry out their duty to enforce the laws or not? and you are saying they don't want to. that tells me nothing. should they.

>> i'm not saying they should make the policies. the policies are made in washington and that's why the overwhelming majority did not vote for trump.d i because he is unqualified and look at the mess he's making across the country. what i'm saying is we should have humane policies. if you want to talk about law enforcement, talk to law enforcement across the country. get their feedback. see what they think. they are opposed to a lot of these policies, the wall. >> tucker: and who knows whether political pressure, noto wanting extra work, but it's not relevant to the question. i'm confronting you with social science that shows that sanctuary city policies do not make cities safer. i want you to acknowledge that science is real and that you are wrong. >> i acknowledge that science is real, that's why one study versus ten studies, i side with the ten studies that say just the opposite. i'm using studies from the cato institute, the pew institute -- the cato institute -- they had one in january. >> tucker: i was a fellow

there. i know the study. >> look at "the new york times," january this year. the article is right there. the pew institute, they say the same thing. study after study that says this. you could pick and choose one. study or one case and use that, as you often do, but let's look at the real numbers. let's look at the overall situation, not only a few cases. >> tucker: just for those at home watching and maybe you don't have time, you're not an expert on this, let me say there are no studies of the kind you are referring to. they don't exist. >> the cato institute, the pew institute. >> tucker: that's not true. cities with the same tory policies and those without, and their crime rates. this is the only one i've ever seen. i have looked into it. are you saying that the study is wrong? and on the basis of what are you saying that? >> i'm saying that the overall majority of people undocumented do not commit crimes. >> tucker: i'm not saying they do. >> a citizen is five times more likely to commit a crime than an undocumented person.f let's look at the issue. let's not be labeling people and blaming people.

>> tucker: you don't like the law, there are a lot of laws i don't like, a lot of laws that i don't like, but i have to obey them because i'm a citizen and everything. why don't you put pressure on your lawmaker, the congressman who represents you, the senators you have, other elected officials in washington, to change the law? that way, we can actually obey the law, but the law would be more to your liking. that's how the system works. why not try that? >> we are doing that. as a matter of fact, that's why in california, the state is considered a sanctuary state. >> tucker: california is not a country. they don't get to make federal law. >> it would be the fifth most powerful country in the world if it was a country. you and i want to get back to -- that starts in california, that's how -- >> tucker: it can have whatever laws it wants, but we're talking about federal law passed in washington by congress. if you don't like those laws, i get that, but why not change them rather than ignore it?

you're sending the message, if you don't like federal law, ignore it. >> if somebody commits a crime, they should be arrested. no doubt about it. donald trump should be on arrested for the crimes he has committed, for example. he shouldn't get a pass. so i'm saying -- >> tucker: you're saying you want the law to be different, why not try to change it? how about this. what if alabama decided, you know what, we are sick of enforcing federal voting rights law. would you say --fo >> we've seen that in alabama.t we've seen that in alabama. the freedom riders. a lot of those things really haven't changed. look at alabama today, we have a long ways to go in alabama. jeff sessions, come on. >> tucker: from the san diego school of debate. new york police just arrested more than a dozen alleged members of the ms-13 gang.an up next, we will talk to as-

police chief for an update on what happened there. plus, president trump's border wall is not funded, may be not even close to being funded. one congressman in iowa has a plan to fund it. not from mexico, but money from an organization that probably shouldn't be getting federal dollars anyways. we'll tell you his plan coming np. up.

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and local police announced the arrest of more than a dozennu alleged ms-13 members. they said the group is responsible for a whole list of crimes, including the brutal murder of four teenagers last april who appeared to disrespect the gang. overall, more than 170 alleged gang members have been arrestedr in suffolk county, new york since attorney general jeff sessions was there in april. suffolk country sheriff joins us. thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: tell us the scope of these arrests, who they are, what they are. >> this is a huge blow against ms-13.hi the new indictment charges three criminal incidents. it's the quadruple homicide that occurred, one of the most brutal murders we've had in the county. it also charges the murder in a bodega where an ms-13 gang member brutally shot a individual in the head right there in the bodega. it also charges two individuals with an attempted murder,n also a shooting.

this is a great case. we were able to arrest over a dozen ms-13 gang members. we are going to keep the pressure on. >> tucker: i ask this because the gang was formed outside this country, in central america, and a lot of its members appear to go back and forth. what's the immigration status of these guys? >> of the eight individuals indicted in the unsealed indictment, those are illegal immigrants. >> tucker: all eight of them? >> eight of the individuals indicted, and the indictment charges of murder, they are -- lack status. this is a gang that recruits illegal immigrants. they prey on their own communities, which makes them particularly depraved. we are going to keep the pressure on in the county andm the hard-working officers have done a terrific job. since september of 2016, we've made over 230 ms-13 arrests of

over 170 individual ms-13 gang members. we brought got two large rico cases in collaboration the fbi and the u.s. attorney's office, we work with the department ofti homeland security to target active ms-13 gang members for deportation. as a result of those efforts, crime is down, and we are solving murders. a so this is certainly -- we are certainly making great progress. we're going to keep the pressure on. >> tucker: there's a huge debate nationally, we just had g it in the last segment, over federal role in law enforcement. especially when it intersects with immigration. have the feds been helpful to you? >> we have an outstanding relationship with our federal partners. this case could not have been made without the assistance of the fbi, particularly the gang task force, as well as the u.s. attorney's office for the eastern district of new york. the prosecutors in that office have been terrific. we also have a great working relationship with our local police department throughout long island, as well as the

department of homeland security. in order to eradicate a gang like ms-13, you need one thing, collaboration. we need collaboration among law enforcement agencies, but most importantly we need collaboration with law enforcement agencies outside ofg your jurisdiction. as you noted at the outset, this is a gang that moves around. it started in l.a., then was grown in el salvador, guatemala, and honduras. first started on the west coast, and in the past couple of decades, they developed themselves on the east coast. we have to make sure that we are all sharing intelligence about our ms-13 gang members. the name of the game is intelligence. >> tucker: a lot of these guys shouldn't be here in the first place. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> tucker: a few years ago back before humor was banned, people used to make jokes about the wnba. we aren't going to do thatok tonight, mostly because it's no longer allowed. d we don't want to face the consequences. instead we want to congratulate them for finally taking the lean

in something in the ongoing infection of professional sports by silly political fads. tuesday night, the seattle storm engaged in a special promotion in solitary with planned parenthood, the country's largest abortion chain, they had pink signs and bandannas to pink out of the arena. $5 from every ticket was donated to planned parenthood, which already consumes half a billion dollars of tax money. the team managed to sell out 49b of the arena. seattle players said that the promotion was important because "all women and girls do deserve to feel respected." that's true, of course. those who are born, anyways. speaking of planned parenthood, the republicans in congress still haven't defunded that group despite repeatedlynd promising to do so back when obama was president. maybe several hundred times. back then, the g.o.p. said they would, but they haven't, they haven't kept the promise to build the wall, either. so is another broken promise really surprising? that's the question steve king of iowa has asked himself.

he is proposing this. take away planned parenthood funding and use it to build a border wall, a combination designed to offend progressives. he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me on. >> tucker: this like a fever dream in santa monica. you're going to take away the planned parenthood federal subsidies and use it to build the boarding trickle border wall >> it's a solution to a complex problem. sometimes people say two birds with one stone. it's about that, it might actually be the whole flock with one rock if we can do this. >> tucker: do you have security? >> i don't answer that question for fear someone will figure out how to crack my security. i feel pretty safe around this town..ff >> tucker: what kind of response has this idea received? >> a lot of pushback from the liberals. i know that our leadership will often make a comment about this, "oh, do you have a twitter storm surrounding you today?"n but i think it's important -- >> tucker: so republican leadership isn't embracing it? >> they didn't embrace it right away.

they're a little slow to come around. >> tucker: kind of weird since i remember, at least a year ago and the leadership was saying we want to build a wall and we want to defund planned parenthood. you provide a solution to both of those things simultaneously and yet they aren't congratulating you, aren't buying you a beer?d >> you think that they would say "why didn't i think of that, let's do that right away." another thing on this is that the planned parenthood proposal, if we could ever get this done, is only for a single year instead of a perpetuity which is what i prefer. but it's worth half a billion dollars. the government funds run about $554 million a year, and if we take that first half a billion out of there, apply it to the wall, and by the way the wall is way overpriced. we can build it for $10 billion or less. i've spent 42 years in the construction business. i'm not interested in building it myself, but we could do that. there's a start on it. and when you look at the rest of this, another thing that caught their attention was the snap program, the food stamp program as we've long known it, and when you look at the numbers on that it's just astonishing. when i came to congress in 2003, there were 19 million people onn food stamps.

that number elevated all the way up to 47 million, and it's around 46 million now. 40% of them are obese. so we addressed the food stamp program under lyndon johnson, starting in about 1962, the snap program in 1965, and back then 13% of our population wasbo obese, and we're trying to solve the malnutrition problem. we've absolutely solved the malnutrition problem, and now we have an obesity problem. >> tucker: there are some perverse and unintended consequences. to the wall, if there is one thing the president ran on, i watched it, it was buildingco a wall. a big, beautiful wall. his campaign was not run onui cutting medicaid. you are a truth teller. tell us why it hasn't happened. >> the wall itself? >> tucker: why hasn't congress moved, separate from everything else, to defund and build the

wall that their leader, the president, promised repeatedly during the campaign? >> all democrats oppose it. t the never-trumpers oppose it, and they're looking for other ways to try -- and it's been pulled down a number of different ways. i keep making the point that a wall is a wall. it's concrete in the minds eye of the american people that voted him in. it's not a balloon. it's not a drone it's not a virtual anything. it's a wall. >> tucker: that's what was promised.ir policy ought to flow from the election results, because it is a representative democracy. do you think the speaker is for the wall?t >> i don't believe the speaker is for the wall. he is way short of the i enthusiasm that i have. but he has said to me that as recently as january that we need to give the president the resources he needs to secure the border. when i hear that, that tells med build a wall and put whatever you need on it to make it happen.

i don't see that beingce pushed. on top of that, you saw the white house asked for $1.6 billion of the upcoming 2018 budget year. that's a start.e if they were serious about thisr i think there would've been a $5 billion ask instead of a $1.6 billion ask. >> tucker: they didn't believe the border security stuff, the wall isn't the perfect solution, but it is a permanent step. you can't pull the wall down when the administration changes. >> one way to say it is that walls don't have prosecutorial discretion. >> tucker: steve king of iowa. thank you. a horrible murder in new york, a homeless man claims it was self-defense when he shoved another man in front of a subway train. a jury believed him. really remarkable story. looks like a man just got away with murder. we will talk about it with a criminal defense attorney. plus, jane sanders is suspected of committing bank fraud, but

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>> tucker: a homeless man has gone free in new york after a jury decided that he acted in self-defense when he shoved a drunk man in front of a subway train. this all began in 2012. he moved here from africa, shoved a man -- also an2. immigrant, but watch as a train arrived and crushed him to death, then walked off as ifd nothing had happened it went upstairs and began begging again.n. after being arrested, davis claimed he was acting in self-defense from the menace of the much smaller man. the jury apparently believed him.m. they acquitted davis yesterday. jonathan rosenberg man wrote a piece about this in "the new york post" this morning. jonathan, thanks a lot for coming on. to those of us who weren't at the trial and are just looking

at the facts, a much larger man murders another, admits that, clearly feels no remorse at all, does not report the crime, and then gets acquitted. how does that happen? >> thank you for having me. i think he could've done a lot more. he could've walked away. he could've called the cops. there was no gun to his head. there were no fists to his face. no reason he couldn't have gotten rid of the situation without the violence. i think what happened was the jury emotionally decided the case as opposed to applying the legal standards to the facts, and that was the problem. it was not a justified killing, so to say, in new york. unfortunately the jury got it wrong. that's an opinion that we can have, but we have to follow what the jury says. they are the law. once they make that ruling. >> tucker: i'm not going to try to arrest the guy, but i'vey a right to be shocked and upset by it.ot just reading the newspaper accounts, the jury forewoman,

who's some academic in new york, hugged this man after reading the verdict. have you seen anything like that before? what does it suggest? >> i think it's unusual. i don't know if it suggests anything in particular. maybe she felt -- i don't know how she felt. maybe she felt very happy about the verdict. she has a right to hug. afterwards, her service is over. i can't attack her on her own personal life in that situation. >> tucker: and i'm not suggesting anything about her personal life, i'm suggesting a level of emotional involvement that may have clouded her judgment.if because i couldn't in reading this, understand how you could be -- i understand people get in fights and sometimes someone is killed. that happens a lot. and neither involved is a bad person. but to watch a man get crushed to death by a train, do nothing to help, and then walk off as if it's no big deal seems to me evidence of, i don't know, bad character for a start. >> i think it was a depraveded murder.

at the very least, it was negligent homicide. i think in defense law, it's very important that defense attorneys for their own credibility, when they are not on the job, say this is a case of guilt. a, the more we understand guilt, the more we understand how to defend people who are innocent. we can't do our jobs effectively as criminal defense lawyers if we don't look at the cases and say "this person was guilty. this person -- " >> tucker: that's a smart rule to live by. jonathan, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: a woman in saudi arabia narrowly avoided punishment for the grave crime of wearing a skirt. that still happens there. is this the weirdest story of the day? we will decide. stay tuned. tel room, i want someone that makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. visit booking.com.

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>> tucker: were in a money back news leopard senator john mccain of ar >> tucker: fox news alerts. senator john mccain of arizona has been diagnosed with brain cancer tonight. the senator underwent a procedure last week at the mayo clinic to remove a blood clot, and during the surgery, doctors discovered the tumor. we are joined by fox news national correspondent ed henry right here in the studio. >> obviously a lot of people in washington, all around the country and the world thinking and praying for senator john mccain as we get this newsa our own colleague, meghan mccain, of course daughter of senator mccain, has just issued a very emotional statement. i just want to read it. "the news has affected all of us in the mccain family. my mother, brother, sister, we've all endured the shock of the news and now we live with the anxiety about what comes next. it is an experience familiar to us given my father's previous battle with cancer, it is familiar to the countless american families whose loved ones are also stricken with the tragedy of disease and the inevitability of age. if we could ask anything of anyone now it would be the prayers of those of you who

would understand this all too well. we would be so grateful for that." that is from meghan mccain.an she adds "don't be surprised to learn that in all this, the one of us who was most confident and calm is my father. he is the toughest person i know. the cruelest enemy could not break him. the aggressions of political life could not bend him.th he is meeting this challenge as he has every other. cancer may afflict him in many ways, but it will not make him surrender. nothing ever has." meghan concludes, that "my love for my father is boundless and like any daughter i do not wish to be in a world without him. i have faith that those days remain far away. even in this moment my fears for him are overwhelmed by one thing above all, gratitude for the years together and the years still to come. a warrior, one of the greatest americans of our age. and a worthy heir to his fathers and grandfather's name. to me, he is something more. he is my strength, my example, my refuge, my confidant, my teacher, my rock, my hero, my dad." a very emotional statement from

our colleague here at fox, meghan mccain, daughter of senator john mccain, a public servant who, tucker, to say that his public servicescc about his time in the senate and chairman of the senatevi armed services committee would be obviously a vast understatement. a man who served this country with such heroics, particularly during the vietnam war. a prisoner of war. >> tucker: as you are reading meghan's statement, we got statements from basically every american political figure of note saying the same thing. i will say one thing. i spent a year with mccain. whether -- whatever you think of his politics, he is truly a toughy man. >> as meghan laid out, he was not scared by his captors in vietnam, and he is going to take on this challenge like he's taken on every other challenge in his life. >> tucker: ed henry, thanks for that. we will be right back. r (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything

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>> tucker: our panel and its best to settle the weirdest choice of the day. catherrin lyon and the manager editor from olympic media. welcome both. the first story: a woman in saudi arabia retained by police because she was walking around in a mini-skirt with her hair uncovered. unacceptable. surprised? >> yeah. these are the issues a?feminist should be talking with. why are they marching for women in countries that they can't represent themselves and don't have rights? >> they don't get you headlines and it's boring. >> a follow subsidy of half a million dollars a year. i have a?bunch of daughters.

i love women. this is outrageous. i wonder why you don't hear statements about that? >> you should. it is a big deal. my concern, the video was leaked without her permission. something bad could happen to her. this would not be the first time something like this occurred and someone attacks that woman based on their belief. you are worried about her safety and a lot of things. again, no one is saying anything about this and they should be. >> tucker: that's the most retrained outfit i saw today. snails are gross. women are using them to grow more beautiful. using snail slime as a skin care product is popular in korea and now taking off here. shops across the country are offering more and more snail products. >> excuse me while i throw up in my mouth. >> tucker: would you put snail slime on you? >> well, i would not say no.

i am on the record here. but i think that people are starting to make things up now. i want to meet the person that saw a snail and said i will puto this on my face and see what happens. >> tucker: the first person that ate a pineapple. who is that person? >> yeah. >> tucker: if you knew snail slime was the key to youthful beauty and vigor? >> yes, now that i hit 25 and everything is downhill. i will stick to eating snails as opposeed to putting their snot on my call. >> tucker: the weirdest story? >> snails. >> tucker: i disagree with you both. people will do anything. they will inject bottulism into their faces. the fact that nobody said anything about a saudi woman getting arrested for wearing a skirt. weird. >> who is representing the snails? where is peta. >> tucker: that's it for us

tonight. "the five" is next. see you tomorrow night. >> i am jesse waters. welcome to "the five". senator john mccain was diagnosed with brain cancer. a tumor was discovered when he underwent a procedure to remove a blood clot. more on that in a moment. president trump son and son-in-law are schedule to testify before senate panels next week as part of the russia inquiry. a new president trump interview is making headlines. he had some provocati