we're waiting another, 11, 12, 13 minutes from now. we'll get this order. we'll get the conditions on the parole. as that comes out, we'll bring you live coverage live right here on fox news channel. >> shepard: o.j. simpson has been granted parole. details coming in just a moment. jonathan hunt outside the prison, the hearing room, i should say. jonathan, moved along just about as advertised. >> it was interesting to note it went a little bit longer than we thought it would. largely because of o.j. simpson's rambling answer, when we was asked by the parole commissioner what were you thinking on the night you took part, in fact organized, that armed robbery. o.j. said a lot of things, which didn't seem as though they'd fit well with the parole board,

claiming that he was never aware of any guns being taken to the memorabilia fight until after they left the hotel and on their way back to the hotel in the car. that seemed something that the parole commissioners would know with us not true. eventually o.j. got to the part, those were the words, "i take full responsibility." then he repeatedly said, i am sorry. it's been a long, long road for o.j. to get here but he has now been granted parole. we expect him to walk out of the prison on or around october 1. now, let's take a look back at how we got all the way here. >> there he goes, getting off at sunset. >> june 17, 1994, the day america and much of the world stopped to watch a white ford

brompg co-lead police on a miles-long pursuit through orange county and los angeles. inside the bronco, o.j. simpson, who had earlier been ordered to surrender to police investigating the brutal murders of simpson's ex-wife and her friend. the bloody bodies of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman had been found five days earlier outside nicole's los angeles home. about three hours after the june 17 chase began, it ended at simpson's home and police officers eventually took him into custody. >> those who say the criminal js advertise system is on rile may be correct in that observation. >> seven months later, the trial of the century began. >> i did not, could not, would not have committed this crime. >> simpson so-called dream team of lawyers led my johnnie cochran, effectively turned the case into a trial of the los angeles police department.

alleging racism, and evidence. >> if it doesn't fit you must acquit. >> october 3, 1995, the jury returned its verdict. >> we the jury in the above entitled action, find the defendant, orenthal james simpson, not guilty. >> the families of ron goldman and nicole brown pursued the civil courts. february 1997, a jury held sim libel for the deaths and ordered him to may more than $33 million to the brown and goldman families. >> this is a man who has never been responsible for anything, any violent act he's ever done. >> simpson paid the of the money. some of what he did hand over coming from the auction of his sports memorabilia. in the years after the civil trial he repeated minor run-ins with law enforcement.

by 2007 he had largely disappeared from view. until september 13, of that year. he and friends confronted two sports memorabilia dealers in their las vegas hotel room and forced them to hand over artifacts simpson claimed were stolen from him. two of simpson's friends took guns to the fight and simpson was charged with a number of felonies including armed robbery and kidnapping. >> you understand the charges against you? >> yes, sir. >> related to the vegas robbery and sentenced to a maximum 33 years. he denied. >> i just wanted my personal things i didn't know i was doing

anything illegal. >> so, here we are, now, with o.j. simpson today granted parole, as i mentioned, shep, he will be out on or around october 1. what did he do then, we know that he plans to move back to florida. that's where he was living before he traveled to vegas on that fateful day, attended a wedding, then robbed those memorabilia dealers. we don't know what he plans to do. will he live a quiet life, that is the go-to with everyone involved, play golf, stay out of trouble. we spoke to his attorney in the robbery trial earlier this week. he said o.j. simpson is so nars cystic, so addicted to the celebrity life, the lawyer doesn't believe he will stay out of the spotlight.

insdeed, perhaps, even not be able to stay out of trouble. we all hope he will, of course, shep, having been in los angeles for the murder trial, having been in santa monica for the civil trial, and having covered the armed robbery trial in las vegas. i for one have no desire to ever see o.j. simpson back in court. >> shepard: jonathan hunt on scene, thank you. dustin marcello, joined o.j.'s defense team after the vegas conviction and worked to get him a new case. nice to see you. your reaction? >> good afternoon. i got to say i'm pleased with the result. i believe that the parole board got it right. i think it's listening to some of the comments and things that were said, you know, people respect the jury verdict. and they respect the parole verdict. i think that he has shown them everything we expect out of a prisoner. he's met every criteria for release. and the board specifically said that they would not consider external influences in their

mission statement to do what's just and right in this specific case. i believe they did that. i am pleased with the outcome and the result. >> shepard: the people armed in this instance, they got probation from the very beginning. but o.j. simpson with no prior convictions got put away for nine to 33 1/2. was that because he was the organizer or was there something more to this? >> well, there were two things. he wassed off, i was in an interview with the prosecutor who prosecuted the case, mr. david roger. there was an offer to do approximately 30 months. on this case rather than nine years. again, it's just nearly impossible to say we all know it, the events that took place in 1994 had an effect on the sentencing, on the -- everything with regards to this case. largely, the sentence that was imposed took that into consideration as well as the facts of the case. >> what do you think he does next? >> well, you know, he's

approximately 70 years old. i think he moves back to florida, gets everything transferred to florida and i don't think we'll hear from him ever again. once people get older, they just want to live out their time. he has had a long, i can tell you, prison life talking to my clients, is extremely difficult. extremely humbling. and i don't think that he will have any interest to have any involvement with anything other than spending time with his family and living the rest of his life out. >> you think o.j. simpson is going avoid television cameras? >> i think he will avoid them like the plague. ultimately, you know, the history of this case, the attention that it received, has been both helpful and hurtful to him in his life. there just comes a point in time where enough is enough. >> shepard: i hear you. >> live the last days of your life out in peace. >> shepard: i won't be holding my breath, o.j.'s attorney, stepped to the microphone.

let's listen live. >> i'm going back to spend time with simpson's family and mr. simpson then i'll come out again. this will be very brief. if you are going to say something, you probably should identify your full name, your news organization, and the parent company of your news organization before you ask. is that fine? is that a fair deal? all right, how can i help you? [inaudible] >> how important do you think bruce's testimony was in the ultimate decision? >> pretty -- certainly didn't hurt. it was actually very influential that he came in and did what he said he was going to do when i talked to him on the phone over the course of a couple of weeks, which he was going to testify favorably for simpson. it was very, very good. obviously if he testified negatively, it kind of was going to be contradicted by what he told me. that's why i felt it was important to bring up that conversation with him to say what he been telling me all along. right now, mr. frelong is with

her simpson's family. he would, mr. simpson wanted to see him, he wanted to spend time with mr. simpson, it's not permitted for various respected reasons for the department of corrections. and so, they're friends. these are friends. they were friends, this was a big misship. -- mishigh pressure. i think it was positive. [question inaudible] >> in there? i don't think he said anything to me. the mikes were right there, you would have caught it. i don't think he said anything. very happy. obviously was very emotional if you look at the cameras, very emotional. next question. >> is he worried about how he's going to be received by the public? >> not at all. no, no, he's been in the media spotlight since he was 19. if he didn't explain it, if he didn't explain on it camera he explained it, you know, in private. he's always used to dealing with media attention that never been

a been a problem for him at all. listen, do you know that jeffrey refiction is a complete fraud? i was watching you earlier this morning when you were saying on spven, at 4:00, and you must have been up pretty early. can't you fell that guy is the biggest fraud on the planet? all of these stories, you can't see that that guy is a massive fraud? he self published a book. that should have told you one thing. anything related to mr. simpson, people are dying to pay money for if it's the least bit credible. no one paid him any money, he self published it. i've told abc news, also espn also disney, i've said a million times through your producers that this guy is a fraud and a knowny, every single -- phony, everything in that book is made up. no, and so -- i don't want to take any questions from you. you have gone on and perpetrated a fraud for this jeff felix, supposedly the guarding the juice guy, you embarrass and make a momry of the corrections

officers over here who are doing a really good job, mr. simpson has very positive things to say about the nevada department of corrections. the wardens have treated him great, very compassionate, in his words they treated him terrific. jeff felix, you see that mullet and how his hair is dyed, you don't buy credibility from people like that, look like that, all right? and you should at least try to vet the story. you could have vetted the story for the last year. i'm agitated when i see you, maybe i'm taking it personally, were you on the news repeating this stuff that jeff felix said, every bit of which is false and unverifiable. every bit of which is untrue. you were doing it. this morning. so jeff felix is a fraud. i don't want to take any questions about jeff felix. i don't know what, i'll tell you exactly what jeff felix is. he was here, he worked in the can teen, mr. simpson, like every other inmate when they go to can teen once a week would

see this guy. he was like a minstrel, sat there, trying to impress mr. simpson, telling jokes. he couldn't identify mr. simpson's cell. maybe he knows the unit, some one told him, but he couldn't identify the cell. this is agitated me so much i have it in progress, strip this guy of his pension benefits. what goes on in this prison here, between the nevada department of corrections and its personnel, okay, is confidential. and he violated that by publishing that silly, ridiculous book. i'm starting the process of getting his pension stripped. if it isn't cleared with the nevada department of corrections, pers, the rules definitely need to be changed or clarified when corrections officer like mr. felix discloses confidential information, of course it's false, but even when he does so, based on some one's celebrity, you get your pension benefits stripped. see how he likes that when he sees the consequences of his action. i'm going to yank his pension

benefits. next question. [question inaudible] >> i don't understand the question. what do you mean, how was he defiant? [inaudible] i don't think he insisted it wasn't his responsibility. i disagree with your characterization of. that it was an explanation what was going on. i don't think he's take -- he's taken plenty of responsibility. any time something like this happens you wish you could do better. the biggest thing here, what made this case, more so than what it was, were the guns. and so, that took this case from being kind of a, you know, somewhat of a laughing stock of a case serious when guns are involved. [question inaudible] i don't think he said it was his right. i think he said he wanted it. the stuff was his. he didn't feel entitled -- he felt entitled to the property.

he now knows that obviously you can't go, even under nevada law and most laws of the united states, you can't go and take property even though it's 100%, even though it's 100% not in dispute the property belongs to you. you can't go back and take it by force. if you stole this from me right now, okay, then i come and see you have it, all right, i can't go and beat you up and hit you with anything to take it back for myself. i can't do it. that's it. so i'm not sure when you say he can't take responsibility. he's taken responsibility, he was offering an explanation. next question. all right, thank you very much, i'm going to -- [inaudible] not if i have anything to do with it, the answer is no. >> shepard: o.j.'s attorney speaking after the decision was reached, that o.j. simpson will be released on parole. we are still waiting for the parole board to set out conditions of the parole, you heard one of the managers there saying that there would be conditions.

we'll find out what these are in a little while when they release that, e this haven't done so. o.j. simpson saying i have, quote, basically lived a conflict-free life, unquote. we'll report, you decide. there's a picture of him, all smiles. o.j. is going home. the attorney general, jeff sessions responding after president trump blasted him for stepping back from the russia investigation. >> we love this job, we love this department, and i plan to continue to do so as long as that is appropriate. >> shepard: as long as that is appropriate. more from the attorney general and the president himself. new moves on healthcare, as republican senators get together to hammer out their differences. and with the senate majority leader promising to force a vote next week. the pressure is on, to come together. we'll look at the progress. plus, the american hero, john mccain, in the fight of his life after a brain cancer diagnosis. today, he has some encouraging

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sths the head of the russia investigation, the fbi special counsel, robert mueller, looking into. trump's business dealings. that's new and it was first

reported by bloomberg news citing a source familiar with the investigation. just yesterday, president trump told the "new york times" in an interview for the ages, that bob mueller would cross a red line if he looked into his or his family's finances. he's looking into his and his family's finances. red line crossed. now what? the white house said in an offcamera briefing moments ago that the president has no intention of firing bob mueller. in president trump's interview with the "new york times" he slammed top officials at his own justice department and at the fbi including one of his biggest campaign supporters, the first senator to come out and support him, the man he called the smartest man in all of the united states senate, the man he appointed his attorney general, jeff sessions, apparently is now a traitor. the president told the times he would not have given jeff sessions the job had he known that the attorney general would recuse himself from the investigation into russia's

meddling in the 23016 election. >> jeff sessions takes the job, gets into the job, recuses himself. which, frankly, is very unfair to the president. how do you take a job and recuse yourself? >> shepard: you take the job, then you get the information which makes it clear that ethically you have to recuse yourself, and you recuse yourself. the attorney general spomded in a news conference today. >> i have the honor of serving as attorney general. it's something that goes beyond any thought i would have ever had for myself. we love this job. we love this department. and i plan to continue to do so as long as that is appropriate. >> shepard: as long as it is appropriate. those argue as long as it is a you proep pratt ended the millisecond president trump gave that interview to the "new york

times" and said he never would have put him in there. but we'll see perhaps. the attorney general was the first republican senator to endorse president trump, or then-candidate trump during the 2016 election. back in march, jeff sessions announced he would step aside from the investigation. after it came out that he met with the russian ambassador during the campaign. he said he met with him as a senator not as a campaign sur row gat, thoen he -- surrogate. the president talked to the times about his private conversation with the russian president in germany. the president said they exchanged pleasantries for about 15 minutes, his number. contradicting reports the conversation lasted about an hour. wheef white house correspondent john roberts is live in his familiar position on the lawn. what an interview. never in my born days have i heard anything like that. >> i was talking to maggie earlier today, she was one of the people in the meeting yesterday. she said we started a conversation. i said clearly you got a lot of important information.

she said we were just talking. but after the president says something like he said in that "new york times" interview, the first question you want to ask, does the president still have confidence in his attorney general. a short time ago, just a few minutes ago, at the made in america event the president was hosting at the white house, reporters shouted the question at him, do you still have confidence in your attorney general. the president ignored the question. but a short time earlier, when sara huckabee sanders had another off-camera white house briefing even though the omb director brought some visual aids, we're not sure what led to that disconnect, sara huckabee sanders was asked if the president had confidence in his attorney general. here's what she said. >> the president said, as the president said yesterday, he was disappointed in the attorney general sessions decision to recuse himself. but clearly he has confidence in him or he would not be the attorney general. >> so i'm baffled, frankly, bee everything that's happened in

the past 24 hours. you had the president saying what he said earlish then sarah huckabee sanders saying the president has confidence in his attorney general. we don't know, shep, if he lost confidence in his attorney general, wants him to resign, or if he's just expressing lingering frustrations because we know it's no secret that the president was upset when sessions recused himself. maybe he wants to subject sessions to a public flogging. but here is a little bit more of what the president told the "new york times" yesterday. >> if he were to recuse himself before the job i would have said thanks, jeff, i'm not going to pick you. it's extremely unfair, that's a mild word, to the president. >> so the president said in the interview had he known then what he knows now he flefer would have appointed jeff sessions to be his attorney general. when sarah huckabee sanders was asked if the president regrets appointing jeff sessions to be the attorney general, she said no.

to which i interjected, wait a minute, how do you reconcile those different thoughts, your president, your boss said had he known now what he -- known then what he knows now he never would have hired him. you say he doesn't regret it. he said i think maybe i misheard the question. in the middle of all this the attorney general, jeff sessions who as you pointed out was one of the strongest supporters, one of the most loyal supporters of this president all the way through the campaign, the first person in the senate to support him, showing him absolute loyalty, is now trying to figure out what to do and whether, in fact, the president does have confidence in his ability to carry on. here's what sessions said about confidence earlier today. >> we're serving right now. what we're doing today is the kind of work that we ichb tend to continue. i'm totally confident we can continue to run this office in an effective way. >> confidence that he can continue to run this office in a competent way while not knowing what the president expects him to do. the president has not spoken to

him, shep, since he had that interview with the "new york times." we should point out the president is expressing lack of confidence in rod rosen stein saying that he's from baltimore and didn't know that when he was appointed, there are very few republicans in baltimore and there are all kinds of conflict of interest regarding the special counsel investigation. rod rosenstein recommended that the president fire james comey then appointed a special prosecutor to look into the firing. robert mueller has conflicts of interest, because of hig long-term friendship ship with james comey. not sure what direction this is going and what the president hopes to achieve saying the things he's said. he has thrown into doubt the confidence that this white house must have in the department of justice, at the same time the attorney general saying we're going to do everything we can to uphold the laws of the united states and enforce them appropriately. >> shepard: john roberts on a crazy day at the white house.

josh geernstein, what do you make of this? >> the concern regarding attorney general sessions, i think, at this point is that you could end up with sort of a zombie attorney general, going through the motions of acting as attorney general and seeming to carry out the duties and sign the paperwork and make the speeches. but who actually have no relationship any more with the president of the united states. which makes it unclear how he can possibly be executing the white house's priorities and pom policies. >> shepard: does he stick around? it felt like the series of events, series of utter answers under any other administration in my lifetime, at least, would lead to an immediate resignation. >> i think that's right. first it would car e. rarely happen, they're carried out behind the scenes, saying that their services are no longer required. here's a strange equilibrium,

the president is willing to u mill yat the attorney general, the attorney general seems for the time being to take it in order to remain in his position and continue to carry out the policy initiatives that he has been unfolding 34e thodically over the past few months. it's a very, very unusual circumstance. but it may be that both men want to go forward, like this, right now. and don't want to escalate this further to full-on firing or full-on resignation. >> shepard: is there anything from president trump's private attorneys on this matter? i don't know what kind of criminal attorney your client is facing a criminal investigation, five investigations all together, you go out there and talking all willy-nilly for an hour to the new york times. are they saying anything? >> i have not heard anything from them. i do think you're right, shep, there were parts of that interview going well beyond the sessions aspect or criticism of rosenstein that were unhelpful, i would say, to his position in

this investigation. for example he changed his stanls regarding his oval office meeting with james comey, apparent one-on-one session, he says that he doesn't remember what the two of them, can't remember what the two of them discussed. previously the president had explicitly denied asking comey to lay off michael flynn the former national security visor. he got mushy on that. further provocations drengted at mueller. did not seem like the kind of thing that any competent defense attorney would be interested in having their client do. >> shepard: we've been led to believe over time that the people closest to president trump, the ones to whom he listens most regularly and closely have changed over time. i wonder, who's giving him advice, the advice to which he's listening, do we know? >> we will, you know, the question is, is he listening to these advisors, legal advisors, including the latest one. i think it still is a lot of his advice seems to be coming from pundits who he sees on

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>> shepard: the o.j. simpson parole board giving a news conference, new information coming, let's listen. >> assistant sheriff ken sanders of the carson city sheriff's office for their help with security and crowd control. i'd like to thank the 234e6 nef system of higher education and i.t. staff of the department of corrections. lastly i want to thank and recognize the administrative staff of the nevada parole board for the past three months have done a tremendous job working together to facilitate activities relative to the public and media interests in this case. at 11:55a.m. this morning the nevada board of parole commissioners voted to grant parole to mr. orenthal simpson, effective when eligible.

mr. simpson's eligibility date is october 1, 2017 and he may be released from prison on or after that date once any proposed release plans have been approved. the board stated the reasons for granting parole included mr. simpson had no prior or minimal criminal conviction mystery. he had a positive institutional record. he had participated in programs specific to addressing behavior that led to his incarceration. he has stable release plans and community and family support. the victim in the case testified in support of mr. simpson's release. this case will now be turned over to the division of parole and probation to gather and investigate mr. simpson's proposed release plans. captain indicated they don't have specific statements to make and the warden. at this time i can open it up to questions. >> provided contact information for florida. you were talking about earlier, captain, about the process in florida.

so have you already talked and discussed this with them in anticipation of this, has he made his desire to move to florida clear? i mean, did you know about this, are they aware and ready for this? >> to answer your question, we did not know what the parole board's plans were if they were going to approve that, they make that determination at the hearing. we did advanced planning in anticipation that if he were to to be granted parole part of the plan we wroo were aware of that he had family -- that we were aware of hah he had family in florida that would serve as the support system, he may be interested in doing an interstate compact. i have reached out to my counterparts in florida, necessity are aware, and they're waiting for -- they will be waiting for our packet for their investigation to make the determination on whether or not they're willing to accept his case for supervision.

>>ior ee also in a position to deny his request to go to florida darn dash they are. >> correct. with the interstate compact, first of all there's a handout that i provided to everybody that breaks down what the interstate compact process is. that's a handout that's provided by the interstate adult offender super vision. their website is on there, public access website. anybody can go on there. it's got everything you could ever possibly want to know about the interstate compact. so you're welcome to go on to this. with that being said, they do 6, when we put the packet together with the plan and list what his support system is, what his plan for parole is, we submit that to florida, they have up to 45 days to do that investigation and they provide a response. interstate compact is not a guaranteed thing. interstate compact is a privilege, it's a privilege based on meeting certain criteria.

in florida when they do their investigation, they'll make the determination of whether or not they're going to be willing to accept his case. >> in your experience how off does the receiving state say no thank you. >> depending on what the support system is. in the case of either a returning resident or in the case of resident family, the acceptance rate as long as there's a valid plan of supervision is high. in the case of a discretionary case where a person doesn't have that support system, but they have other opportunities they're looking to pursue or looking for a change of scenery, in those discretionary cases, the rate of acceptance is lower. >> 2 1/2 months between now and the eligibility date, what would be the hitch that he would not get out on october 1? >> so, the one thing that nevada doesn't control under the interstate compact, the receiving state which in this

case, if the plan is for him to go to florida, the receiving state would have up to 45 days f they were to exceed that 45 days that could postpone f there was a problem with their investigation that they couldn't complete it in that 45 days, that could postpone the release. but with the amount of lead time, we don't anticipate there would be a problem. >> he would not have to spend any time in nevada at all? >> correct. >> what if florida says no? >> if florida said no the next step, this is where i would have to be aware of what the conditions of his release were, our prerelease unit looks to find him a suitable plan or work with him to develop a suitable plan for here in nevada. >> will the date and location of his release be given to the public and the media or can he just be let go without anyone knowing? >> that would be a conversation for the warden. parole and probation works with the case workers at ndoc to develop a release plan and release date.

the physical release is part of ndoc. >> how are they expedited to that state? >> he wouldn't be extradited to that state. if he were accepted from that other state, family members assist with those plans. most of them either go by bus or plane, travel arrangements are made in anticipation of their release. >> the call he made to florida previous to this, would you do that for another inmate, knowing i want to spend the rest of my time in indiana? or is this because it was fast tracked? >> it's not that it was fast tracked, we know that it's such a high profile case with a lot of interest, in the interest of the other state and preparing them for the phone calls and the e-mails that they may receive, it was a corte 1i to let them know that. >> captain, in the event that

the florida thing doesn't han, is he allowed to pick another state? he has a daughter in california, could that -- is he allowed to pick a different place to go? >> sure, as long as there's a valid map of supervision and he has a support system. there's no -- he wouldn't be restricted to just one state. >> what is his family support system in florida? what do you know about that? >> i'm not familiar what his support system is. other than i know he had family members testify today. >> when he is released, say that florida accepts him and they do it in time for him to be released on the earliest possible release date, october 1, so he would then just walk out of prison? is there a possibility he may go to another institution, stepdown facility or half-way house, between now and the time he's let out of incarceration? >> if the plans of transfer is to go to florida, there wouldn't

be a release to the street to go to florida in that way that you're talking about like a transitional living or half-way house. but, again, as far as the release process, i'll turn that over to the warden to talk to you about. on my handout, do i have my contact information. you are welcome to give me a call. i also have my e-mail address, you are welcome to e-mail me. we will update our website at parole and probation to include the same information that you have. typically the division does not speak specifically to one particular offender over another. what we will do is in, i'm more than willing to discuss with you what the general process is for the interstate compact or prerelease. >> one final one on this transfer to florida, then, based on your experience, and the measures you provided us, does it apeesh that simpson will go to florida? >> as long as he has a valid plan of supervision along with

the support system. there would be a good opportunity for him to. >> thank you. >> what happens now, for the next couple of months what's he doing? just waiting? >> okay, so right now, he will stay at lovelock and they will develop the release plan for him for his release parole plan. and then we would go from there as far as for his prelease, prepare for his release. >> is there any -- say he stays in nevada. is there any half-way house situation or anything for somebody that committed a crime as he did? >> well, right now, with can miss classification he probably -- with his classification he would stay in lovelock, prior to his release, he would move to one of the other institutions that does releases. if he's going to release in the north or the south. >> he would spend one or two weeks there, a month? >> a short period of time.

then he would transport out. it's easier to tranls port from those areas than lovelock. >> is there another prison that does releases, that's a specialty of theirs or something? >> no, all of the release planning is love done at lovelock, them it would be the matter of moving him, basically, closer to a place that's easier to transport from. closer to an airport like that. >> one other question, i'm sorry, a lot of things in florida will be considering whether they want to provide the same types of support and supervision that normally he would have otherwise received from nevada's probation -- parole and probation commission, right? if florida is accepting him, that means it's off your 457bdz, nevada doesn't have a role once he moves to florida? nevada probation and pardon doesn't have any role in supervising his release after that? >> under the interstate compact, whether a state accepts a person

for supervision, the state that is the sending state, would be nevada in this case, he is still the responsibility of nevada and he will be the responsibility of nevada until he discharges from its parole. what florida is able to do is florida is able to add terms and conditions to him, to supervise him in a similar planner how they would supervise their own in like circumstances. in this case, florida, if that's where he winds up doing his interstate compact to, florida would provide him with terms and conditions an florida provides courtesy supervision for nevada. but the ultimate authority for that case is nevada. >> how long is his parole for, how many years? >> it's for whatever his discharge date would be. >> warden, will the location and date of his release be released out to the public? >> he would be made aware of when his release date just prior and all that, we have a walk-in

sdat of when we -- lock-in date that we know. as far as making announcement, that's not something we normally do for any of the other inmates. i don't believe we would be doing that. >> warden, you mentioned at some point may be transferred prior to his release. for the near future does anything change in the terms of his confinement, privileges, the day-to-day at lovelock? >> none of that should change. it should just be only thing that he's going to be working on is preparing his plan, his parole plan, and making sure that gets in and all that. just pretty much continuing with what he's been doing. >> is there a deadline for getting in that plan? to make the october 1 date? >> he wants to get that information in as soon as possible so people can work on it. >> he doesn't sb mitt that plan to you prior to today? you know he has people, i want to go to florida, these are my support. but an actual plan you don't have that yet? >> what we have is what happens prior is there's a parole report that is done. then his intentions of what he

wants to do should he make parole is part of that parole report. >> specifically, he has to check in, or -- with a parole or probation supervisor from time to time after his release? would he be doing that in florida or have could tomorrow back to nevada for that? >> when he's under supervision by florida as courtesy supervision for nevada -- sure. sorry about that. when florida is providing the courtesy supervision of mr. simpson's case he would report to the florida probation officer, parole officer. >> if he did something wrong, something where potentially the violation of probation, ultimately he would end up answering for that back in nef snef some. >> correct. once if his actions were to -- in nevada if it actions were to be a violation and florida submitted that violation to us, ultimately, if he were to be

returned for revocation he would be coming back to nevada to answer for that revocation before the parole board. >> i know he's gone nine years without action in prison. in the next two months is there anything that could happen at lovelock or other facility to jep died his parole? >> any inmate granted parole has to follow all of the rules and all that they need to. should any inmate that creates, that has such a serious rule violation, there is the possibility of parole being revoked. >> is there a situation, though, where can he ask for special protection or special circumstances because he doesn't want to be sort of, i guess, put himself in harm's way? put himself in a situation where others might want to wish him harm or get in trouble? can he request special treatment or protection? >> he can make that request, however he would need to provide some sort of basically, evidence to base that request off of.

>> you know what i'm saying. it's possible that, you know, he talked about it in his hearing, prisoners have a tendency to do things for stupid reasons. if some one had it out for him and wanted to jeopardize his parole. >> they have had nine years to do that. >> as warden, do you have any reservations about letting him walk out of this on october 1. >> you know, the parole board makes that decision. and our job is to keep them until they tell us to let them go. so that's where -- >> you weren't in the deliberations, were you, david? >> thank you. i came in and out when they were deliberating. just to make sure everything was okay. but i did not participate in the deliberations. >> were there any sticking points, any points they came up that they disagreed on? >> n. by law in nevada deliberations are confidential. so we would not -- >> photograph can you tell us, we won't tell. [laughing]

>> we wouldn't release that information. >> any paperwork that he would be released, the score, the ranking why they let him go? >> we just distributed a copy of the order. the conditions of parole as well as the instrument and aggravating and mitigating fak force. >> was there anything unusual about the amount of time they spent deliberating? >> no. for this type of a hearing, generally deliberations with smaller panels are shorter because you have fewer people. four commissioners, that was not -- wouldn't be uncommon. >> what with the time of the hearing, how long it took to get to deliberations? >> this hearing was longer because of the amount of conversation. we knew it would last longer with four commissioners. we expected that we would have a little bit more leeway, we would allow a little bit more leeway to allow information to get on the record. they did want to take time to actually tack about how things are done. because of the interest in this case.

>> can you provide mr. simpson at the prison, what was he really like, the steady routine? was he a model prisoner? everyone said he was a model prisoner. what does that mean? >> i'm sorry, ma'am, he was never at -- i had very little dealings with him when he first came in at high desert. that would have been my only involvement with him. >> do you know? >> no. >> all right. >> one thing, the parole board will not be doing any interviews. this is your one shot to ask any questions of the board. sorry, no. >> will somebody at some point at lovelock be available to characterize simpson's incars rake? >> -- incarceration? >> you mean a p.i.o.? >> yes. >> the p.i.o. for department of corrections should be able to abs any questions related to

that. >> this off topic, i forget when this happened during the course of the ins kargsration, there were comments that he got in a fight. can you address that whether he had any -- was there any conflict that he did have, maybe not -- that were not his fault but that he was involved in nerls? >> during the hearing i noted, i didn't hear of any disciplinary infractions. he was disciplinardisciplinary- would say no. >> can you, again, reiterate why we were able to get a de six today instead of waiting 10 days, three weeks for joe blow? >> as you recall, in the 2013 hearing it was a panel of one commissioner and one case hearing represent waive. -- representative. there wasn't a lot of interest at the time of the hearing, we had several reporters, one photographer, i think, one camera. but the minute that hearing took place we became inundated with

can requests for information by the media. and so we got that order out as soon as we could president in february there was the interest, there was a news article that started coming out. and we began to get unindated by the press for questions about the parole hearing and we realized if we didn't start then to prepare for a potentially huge event, like this turned out to be. that we would have a lot of problems. the board does hold hearings with four commissioners. it's not often, we hold about 9,000 hearings a year, we have to spread the caseload out between commissioners and hearing reps. in this case because of the media interest, we opted to have a majority present so that we could provide a ruling on the same day and allow you wonderful folks to be able to go home and let us get back to work. [chuckling] >> in nevada, is expression of

remorse and insight not a required criteria for release on parole? >> it is not. now, there are, the board does note in some of the factors, when mitigating factor of remorse could be noted. it's generally only applied, if a person committed a crime and they immediately went and confessed or turned themselves in because of their immediate remorse. that's the only time that factor is. the board does not require that an inmate state or indicate that they are remorseful. >> some said he wasn't remorseful when he answered the questions. you have been to other parole hearings, what you are your thoughts that? is it true he wasn't really that remorseful? >> i think that you would have to let the hearing and the questions and the testimony of the hearings stand on its record. because i don't think i could

address that here. yes, sir. >> typically you say it takes, what, days or weeks or even longer to make it to the board to render a determination. or is it usually just days? >> generally what happens in a regular parole hearing, the panel will make a recommendation to the board. and in nevada, the panel can make a recommendation and the board members can review and vote by file review and they can -- we record the hearings as well, they can review the hearing if they have concerns or questions. issue the order once there's a majority. doesn't have to be a public meeting to issue that. that can take, because commissioners in las vegas are voting on carson city cases, and vice versa, it can take about two weeks. we don't generally release results until we know that the inmate has been notified. and so that adds a little bit more time to it. but in this case because they had four commissioners who voted in a majority, they were able to

give that answer today. >> maybe i missed it, did you answer the question, whether you're going to tell us when and where he will be released? >> so, typically we don't give that information ahead of time. the inmate in general will know ahead of time when his release is. basically we give what is called a locked-in release date. as far as announcing when and where he's going to be released we don't do that. >> normally. but this is not a normal case. >> okay. so i would tell you i don't believe we have any plans of doing that. >> but he would be here up until the final two weeks or so or three weeks would that be safe to say? >> that would be safe to say, remain at lovelock until prior to his release. >> would you make an exception? >> again, i don't believe we have any plans on doing that. >> then he would be transferred to airports and public transportation? >> yes. >> or populated areas?

where would those be? >> we do releases, primarily out of ncc for the northern, northern nevada correction center in carson city. then out of, in the south, out of die desert state prison. >> how will we get back to florida -- how will he get back to florida if that's where he goes? >> those arrangements will be made with his parole plan. >> yes, so once the release plan is developed, part of the arrangements that prerelease works out with the case workers at ndoc is whether it's going to be by air, by train, and usually then they work with the family to make arrangements on the purchase of that ticket. >> thank you all very much for your cooperation. >> we appreciate you guys. realize you went to a great deal of trouble you don't normally dough to. >> do you know why one of the

parole commissioners was wearing a kansas city chiefs tie? [laughing] i would say probably because he likes the kansas city chiefs. >> if you had it to do all over again would you do it? >> pardon? >> no offense. [ laughing ]. >> any other questions? thank you very much. i hope you have a were you trip back. >> shepard: ties all around, plaegs nations given. o.j. is going free in october. trace gallagher is with us, in los angeles, where the bronco chase happened. trace? >> yeah, it's important to point out, and you look at that news conference, where o.j. is going to go. is he going to stay in florida, go back to nevada, where is he going tond end up. the important point was those trying to get o.j. in trouble. since the not guilty verdict came down in 1997, it has been this constant flow, o.j. has been attacked from a lot of

people who quo to nightclubs, they'll taunt him, try to get him in trouble and sometimes it's worked where o.j. has responded. one of the big questions, is o.j. going to bible to be taunted back into breaking his parole. that's something that of course o.j.'s lawyer hopes o.j. stays out of nightclubs and goes low key. we should point out that financially o.j. simpson still hah some money coming in. he had a 33.5 plilion judgment against him from the goldman and brown families but he gets $25,000 a month from his nfl pension. he also has a screen actors gould pension. and tom scotto said that he put $5 million in a pension several years ago. the return on that is unclear. o.j. still has money coming in. >> shepard: trace gallagher live in los angeles, thank you. wrapping up a three-hour block with the o.j. coverage, a little bit of news coverage, if news does break out we'll break in, breaking news changes everything

oh fox news. big board on wall street, the final bell is ringing, the nasdaq off, the dow off, about the just a little bit. still very near all-time highs. all over wall street. the best in business, now, with neil. >> mr. simpson, i do vote to grant parole. that will conclude this hearing. >> thank you! >> neil: o.j. simpson is going to be a free man some time in october. we have the latest developments with claudia in nevada. >> hi, neil. looking relaxed, a bit slimmer and very self assured, o.y. simpson told the parole board he has served his time and should be released. when the board agreed as you just saw, he hunched over with release and said "thank you." during the hour-plus hearing in nevada, simpson said he shuttered himself